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Stone Cold · Cuff’s Basement

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Speaker 1: All right, sorry, what did you say?
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Speaker 1: Probably, thank you. Welcome back to the podcast. I am
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Speaker 1: here with uh well, my name is Tim and I
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Speaker 1: am one of the co hosts for the podcast, and
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Speaker 1: mister Andrew Kelly. You know, you know, I think after
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Speaker 1: to have Oh and a great like up top banterp
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Speaker 1: top conversation. Andy was just telling us off pod. You
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Speaker 1: were telling us the story, and I'm very curious to
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Speaker 1: find out the ending where you accidentally ended up making
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Speaker 1: out with your cousin.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, sure, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, start start from the beginning.
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Speaker 3: It was late October, it was raining, just trying to
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Speaker 3: get somewhere, didn't have an umbrella.
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Speaker 1: You're right, our uncles we.
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Speaker 3: Got under an aunting and just just let it rip.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I remember, like there's one time in high school where
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Speaker 1: sometimes like if you, if you, if you make a
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Speaker 1: thousand jokes, you're like one of them's gonna end up
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Speaker 1: making the person laugh. Even the best kind of laugh
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Speaker 1: I get from Shannon is when I know she doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to laugh but does anyway. And before Shannon, there
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Speaker 1: was Andy for that dynamic. But I remember in high
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Speaker 1: school I was singing boyfriend by aral Levine and I said, hey, hey, Andy,
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Speaker 1: I want to be your boyfriend, and then you just
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Speaker 1: said no way, no way. And then I said he
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Speaker 1: think that he? I said, well, what is it he
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Speaker 1: thinks he's not of? Then I probably said a slur?
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Speaker 1: Then why did he kiss me in my uncle's cabin?
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Speaker 1: And then you just said, like what, how do you
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Speaker 1: even think of that? It was wrong with you? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, I don't think that.
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Speaker 3: Now when you're talking to AI and you said, like
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Speaker 3: your whatever questions or stories you're asking, I I'm just like,
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Speaker 3: what what's Cuff doing right now?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: How did this come about? How does how do those
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Speaker 3: synapses fire off of that brain?
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Speaker 1: I don't.
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Speaker 2: Radio active that.
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Speaker 1: Ryan is. Ryan is building, like like it's escalating over
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Speaker 1: the years where Ryan now just wants no part of
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Speaker 1: my text conversations where he will reference like this will
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Speaker 1: be in discovery and if I say, he just wants
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Speaker 1: to absolve himself and not be implicated, so I want,
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Speaker 1: I'll text him something insane and he will respond, do
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Speaker 1: not do that. Stay in your house, do not talk
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Speaker 1: to me about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, attention attention of w was in council. I am
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Speaker 2: officially rejecting this hypothesis.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, sorry, what did you say? Andy's smart?
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Speaker 3: He just has to get away from any cloud of judgment.
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Speaker 2: That he's probably too right now. But it's like, you
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Speaker 2: know what I might as well?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we had any like everybody is having an
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Speaker 1: AI training at work, but the AI training at work
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Speaker 1: mentioned anything you type into AI at work could be discoverable,
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Speaker 1: and obviously it's way more common for a company to
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Speaker 1: get sued than like an individual. But I thought, oh no,
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Speaker 1: if somebody personally where like that's why you never give
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Speaker 1: the police your phone for any reason, Like you would
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Speaker 1: just never do if if if somebody, if somebody murdered
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Speaker 1: Ashley and you had an air tight alibi and they
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Speaker 1: were like you you only wanted to help the police
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Speaker 1: find the killer, and they said, can we have your phone?
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Speaker 1: You should not give it to them, like your instinct
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Speaker 1: would be to give it to them, But there's no,
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Speaker 1: there's no reason, there's absolutely no reason to do that,
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Speaker 1: Like every lawyer would advise you otherwise, and with me,
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Speaker 1: I would be in jail like by sunset if.
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Speaker 2: So, well in two days of history here, and we've
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Speaker 2: got a case to put them away for life.
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Speaker 1: Not maybe not for the murder of his wife, but
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Speaker 1: for many other crimes the outside.
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Speaker 3: It's reasonable out here for sure.
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Speaker 1: So I have an ongoing joke with myself really that
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Speaker 1: like Ryan is very into young girls, which is based
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Speaker 1: in not based in reality whatsoever. And I sent a
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Speaker 1: textas today because I was I was on like my
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Speaker 1: town social media or no, it was just my town's website,
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Speaker 1: and it was we have a town pool and there
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Speaker 1: was just a picture of lifeguards and I sent it
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Speaker 1: to the group chat and I go, hey, Ryan, you're
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Speaker 1: asking me for a picture of all the teen lifeguards
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Speaker 1: in my town. So here you go. And then Ryan
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Speaker 1: said this is now in your phone, like you screenshoted
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Speaker 1: this and it's in your photos.
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Speaker 2: That utility action in your phone is you? You are
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Speaker 2: the one take that phone?
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Speaker 1: You cuff you said an amazing clip where Ryan took
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Speaker 1: clips from the Johnny Depp trial but made the audio
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Speaker 1: seem like they were talking about me and they were
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Speaker 1: listening to like voice mails I've met sent Ryan because
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Speaker 1: Ryan's good at video editing. That was very funny. We
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Speaker 1: should send those Dandy please do. But anyways, we're here
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Speaker 1: today to talk about no, no, no, no no, the
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Speaker 1: greatest wrestler of all time, Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Actually, pro wrestling will come into play in this movie.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Ryan knows what I'm referencing. There
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Speaker 1: is a pro wrestler in this movie. But oh yeah, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: and it's I can't wait to talk about that part.
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Speaker 1: But no, we're not talking about Stone Cold Steve Boston,
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Speaker 1: although you may think we are based on the title
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Speaker 1: of this episode. We were talking about the nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: one film entitled Stone Cold. And it is entirely free
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Speaker 1: on YouTube. You do not need to pay for anything,
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Speaker 1: so you can go watch it right now for free.
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Speaker 1: It's unedited. It's very available on YouTube. No Coparet claims
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Speaker 1: no one.
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Speaker 3: Cares it will give you money to watch it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and it is. It is starring Brian Bosworth. Now, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: before knowing about this movie or watching this movie, how
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Speaker 1: familiar with you were you at all with Brian Bosworth.
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty minimal. I just remember, well, it's like I
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Speaker 2: think the USA Network used to play this movie and
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Speaker 2: they would just talk about like like when they would
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Speaker 2: do commercials for this movie. They would say his name
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Speaker 2: like you should know him, like still all Or Swarth
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Speaker 2: and like Brian Bosworth in Stone Colt, and I was like, what, Like.
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Speaker 1: Was he in the Longest Yard remake with Adam Sandler?
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Speaker 2: Was he?
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Speaker 1: I thought he was.
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Speaker 2: I did not look him up because the rest of
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Speaker 2: the cast was just thrilling.
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Speaker 1: Oh, the rest of this cast is unbelievable. But I
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Speaker 1: need to look this up. I need to factor I
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Speaker 1: forgot wait till it again.
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Speaker 2: He is in the Longest Yard. He's one of the guards.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the football team of the guards is mostly pro wrestlers.
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Speaker 1: It's like Stone Cold, Steve Boston, Kevin Nash. Brian Bosworth
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Speaker 1: was never a pro wrestler. But Brian Bosworth is one
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Speaker 1: of the guards. But that makes sense because he was
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Speaker 1: an actual football player. Andy Tupark question, how familiar with you?
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Speaker 1: How familiar were you with Brian Bosworth? And part two?
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Speaker 1: Had you seen Brian and the Boss the documentary? No?
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Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it. I'll start with that one and
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Speaker 3: then reasonably familiar with him. I think I think of
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Speaker 3: him as like Lattimore in the program in my head,
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Speaker 3: which is unfair to anyway but he's kind of like.
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Speaker 1: He never raped someone, so I would say it's unfair.
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Speaker 3: It's unfair. Yeah, But I just think of him as
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Speaker 3: like a steroided college football player who was really good
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Speaker 3: and got to the pros and kind of was I
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Speaker 3: don't think he was bad, right, Like I think he
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Speaker 3: was middle of the road, but he's like more of
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Speaker 3: a college player.
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Speaker 1: So I want to I want to talk about Brian
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Speaker 1: Bosworth because it's it's important context because if you're younger,
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Speaker 1: you don't know who he is, you might think that
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Speaker 1: he's this is crazy, but Brian Bosworth was like one
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Speaker 1: of the most famous people in the nineteen eighties. And
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Speaker 1: that's what Andy said is basically like he was big
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Speaker 1: in college, he got pop for steroids, and people think
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Speaker 1: he was a boss in the NFL. But I think
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Speaker 1: there's a little bit more to that. And there's a
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Speaker 1: documentary thirty for thirty. We all know thirty for thirty.
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Speaker 1: They did a Bosworth documentary called Brian and the Boss
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Speaker 1: that he participated in. But I'm just gonna I have
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Speaker 1: just like a bio on him that I think is
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Speaker 1: of relevant stuff that I asked AI. So I just
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Speaker 1: want to share this. Brian Bosworth was one of the
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Speaker 1: biggest sports celebrities in the nineteen eighties, not just because
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Speaker 1: he was a great linebacker and football player, but he
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Speaker 1: turned himself into a character. The Boss was loud, theatrical, rebellious, controversial,
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Speaker 1: and extremely marketable, years before college athletes started branding themselves
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Speaker 1: on social media. How good was Bosworth in college? Purely
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Speaker 1: as a college football player, he was extremely elite. He
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Speaker 1: helped He played linebacker at the University of Oklahoma, they
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Speaker 1: won the national championship. He is the only player to
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Speaker 1: win the Buttkiss Award. I believe the Buckists Award. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's best defensive player or best linebacker
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Speaker 1: in college football. He's the only player to win it twice.
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Speaker 1: He finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting, which is
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Speaker 1: insane for a defensive player. He led Oklahoma and tackles
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Speaker 1: all three seasons he played there. He was especially known
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Speaker 1: for showing up in huge games. A lot of older
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Speaker 1: football fans still considered him the greatest, one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest college linebackers ever. But the reason he was so
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Speaker 1: mainstream famous is he had wild hair styles with shaved patterns.
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Speaker 1: He had neon clothing and sunglasses, He trash talked, and
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Speaker 1: he was on magazine covers, He had TV appearances, and
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Speaker 1: he was basically like a wrestling heel kind of persona.
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Speaker 1: This was the Reagan era in nineteen eighties, when college
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Speaker 1: football was relatively conservative. Bosworth acted more like a rock star.
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Speaker 1: He intentionally created this persona of the Boss as arrogant, loud,
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Speaker 1: and rebellious because it knew it got a lot of
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Speaker 1: attention and it made people hate him. You know, in
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Speaker 1: college he's considered one of the best defensive players ever,
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Speaker 1: but not the best. He had a lot of controversies,
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Speaker 1: suspended for steroids. While suspended for steroids, he stood on
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Speaker 1: the sideline wearing a shirt that read ncublea National Communists
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Speaker 1: Against Athletes. His autobiography exposed Oklahoma football culture, including drug use, weapons,
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Speaker 1: and chaos. A lot of people at the time said
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Speaker 1: it was not real and he was exaggerating it for money,
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Speaker 1: but the NCUBA investigations later confirmed he was telling the truth. Ironically,
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Speaker 1: decades later, many people felt Bosworth's criticism of the NCUBA
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Speaker 1: not paying athletes was way ahead of its time. How
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Speaker 1: did his NFL career go Because he has a reputation
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Speaker 1: of being a bust. What went wrong? He had a
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Speaker 1: lot of injuries. His shoulders were really torn up from
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Speaker 1: college football and years of heavy hitting, so his shoulders
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Speaker 1: kind of crapped out on him. He effectively ended his
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Speaker 1: career at age twenty four due to his shoulders. But
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Speaker 1: was he actually bad? No, not really. He was never
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Speaker 1: a superstar, but he wasn't a bust by any means.
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Speaker 1: He was above average NFL linebacker while he played. But
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Speaker 1: I think the pretty much the most famous moment Bosworth
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Speaker 1: ever had is there is a bo Jackson play and
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Speaker 1: did you know what I'm talking about?
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Speaker 3: Does he get just like crossed up or no, he
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Speaker 3: gets run over?
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Speaker 1: He gets run over. Before a game against the Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles Raiders, Bosworth talked publicly about containing bo Jackson. Then
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Speaker 1: on Monday Night football, Jackson ran over Bosworth at the
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Speaker 1: goal line for a touchdown. The image became legendary and
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Speaker 1: followed Bosworth forever. However, in reality, many fans later admitted
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Speaker 1: almost no one would have stopped bo Jackson on that play,
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Speaker 1: but basically Bo Jackson, and because Boss talked a lot
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Speaker 1: of shit about who's going to stop bo Jackson, bo
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Speaker 1: Jackson had this goal line run and he ran directly
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Speaker 1: into bos So it was like literally the moment everybody
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Speaker 1: had been waiting for, and he fucking ran through him
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Speaker 1: like he was a little girl. So it was very embarrassing,
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Speaker 1: and that kind of followed Bosworth be a bus But
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Speaker 1: he was incredibly savvy. One of the things they talked
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Speaker 1: about is in the documentary Brian and the Boss is
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Speaker 1: that he owned a T shirt company and the T
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Speaker 1: shirt company would sell anti Bosworth T shirts outside of
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Speaker 1: the stadium at away games, so all the opposing fans
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Speaker 1: would buy the T shirts and then he would make
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Speaker 1: a ton of money from it. So very smart, and
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Speaker 1: he was very ahead of its time with like hating
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Speaker 1: the NCAA. So yeah, that's basically his football career. So Ryan,
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Speaker 1: did you know any of that? No, Yeah, very interesting guy,
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Speaker 1: kind of obnoxious, but like, way way ahead of its time,
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Speaker 1: and I kind of respect the things he did, but
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Speaker 1: he The documentary Brian in the Boss is worth watching
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Speaker 1: thirty for thirty is for the most part are all
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Speaker 1: very good and he has a lot of like self
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Speaker 1: reflection and thinking, you know, I handled this the wrong way.
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done this, I shouldn't have done this,
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Speaker 1: So it's a pretty good documentary. But ending his career
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Speaker 1: at twenty four due to shoulder injuries, he went into acting.
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Speaker 1: It's almost surprising he was never a professional wrestler, Ryan, Like,
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Speaker 1: couldn't you have totally seen that?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I okay, hear me out. This is a hot take.
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Speaker 1: I genuinely think he was good in this, like for
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Speaker 1: what it is. I'm not saying that he's gonna win
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Speaker 1: awards or should be cast in like real movies, but
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he has a reputation, especially this movie,
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Speaker 1: that he's a terrible actor. I don't think he's a
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Speaker 1: terrible actor. Do disagree with me?
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Speaker 2: They don't lean like I thought. The movie does not trot.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't like overreach for him, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Like it's not like he's stretching a lot. I think
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Speaker 2: it's pretty much just built like he's like this kind
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Speaker 2: of like silent bad ass. It just kind of works.
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Speaker 2: So I think, Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I also think he is a great leading man action
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Speaker 1: hero because he's genuinely very handsome, Like just his face.
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Speaker 1: He's more handsome than Schwarzenegger's stallone people. Maybe not Dolph
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Speaker 1: Lungren because he's like a god, but he genuinely is
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Speaker 1: very handsome. They actually like call him a pretty boy
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Speaker 1: repeatedly in this movie. You know that he is athletically like,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's strong, like nobody is doubting his badassness.
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Speaker 1: And he's really jacked and frequently does not have a
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Speaker 1: shirt on in this movie. So he I just think
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Speaker 1: he works for this movie. And I gotta say, like, unironically,
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Speaker 1: with no you know, like the room hipster intent, unironically,
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Speaker 1: I love this movie.
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Speaker 4: I think it's greatly I really do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, did you guys enjoy this?
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Speaker 3: I absolutely enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to watch Cobra after because I was like,
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Speaker 3: I hated Cobra, Like how bad is Cobra that you
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Speaker 3: hate it? I hated Cobra, But this movie was much
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Speaker 3: more enjoyable to me than like Cobra. Like I like Chains.
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Speaker 3: I liked the Boss. My I did have like a
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Speaker 3: thing because the Boss he's a good looking guy, great hair,
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Speaker 3: Like what's he doing in this biker gang? Like with
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Speaker 3: a red flag?
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Speaker 2: You got no other options?
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Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, I mean we'll go, We'll get into the cast.
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Speaker 1: So the cast is amazing and it just like this movie,
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Speaker 1: like Cobra's not fun, Cobra is not self aware, it's
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Speaker 1: completely dead serious, and this movie is pretty self aware,
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Speaker 1: pretty fun, pretty outrageous, and this is genuinely a better
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Speaker 1: movie than Cobra and over the Top in my opinion, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: what do you think.
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Speaker 2: I would agree not see over the Top, but I
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Speaker 2: would agree I liked it better than Cobra. I just
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Speaker 2: thought because like Cobra, he's just insane and it's just
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Speaker 2: like his like behavior is nuts. Were like this movie
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Speaker 2: is like Stone isn't too like over the top with
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Speaker 2: his action because they have the exact same opening, but
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Speaker 2: the villains I don't describe it. I was talking about it,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, it's like they're the smokers from
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Speaker 2: water World, only there's no water. It's just like they're
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Speaker 2: these fucking flue degenerate monsters and they're just like it's
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Speaker 2: not like who who who was attracted to this group
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Speaker 2: of people and him in combination with them was way
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Speaker 2: more of like an interesting combo than the Axe Cult
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Speaker 2: and Cobra.
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Speaker 1: I was reading about how this was received at the time,
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Speaker 1: and it was received very poorly, but one critic said
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Speaker 1: it was good to see a biker movie. I genuinely
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Speaker 1: think this is the first mainstream biker movie since Easy Rider,
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Speaker 1: and I thought that can't possibly be true, but maybe
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Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, this this is the so this is
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Speaker 2: what this maybe a This is May of ninety one,
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Speaker 2: so maybe two months before T two. And then that
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Speaker 2: it's not like a biker movie, but that kind of
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Speaker 2: imagery of him and the bike and the leather is
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Speaker 2: pretty big. And he opens in the biker bar with
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Speaker 2: some of the cast of this three.
21:30
Speaker 1: Yes, Mudfish right or what is his name? Mudfish? Yeah? Yeah,
21:36
Speaker 1: but that's not a bike T two is not a
21:37
Speaker 1: biker movie.
21:39
Speaker 2: It's not a biker movie. But I think that whole
21:40
Speaker 2: like iconic image of the guy in the leather jacket
21:43
Speaker 2: with the sunglasses, the bats, the bone thing, riding the bike,
21:46
Speaker 2: it like completely that just completely changed. I don't think
21:50
Speaker 2: there's been many biker movies that I know of since
21:54
Speaker 2: that are like that.
21:56
Speaker 1: Damous I said that this makes Cobra look new on
22:01
Speaker 1: was one of my notes. I also I wanted to
22:05
Speaker 1: ask Ryan help me out here. So the writer, from
22:07
Speaker 1: my understanding, is just like an old TV writer. And
22:11
Speaker 1: then the director made something else famous but I can't remember.
22:14
Speaker 2: What the director did a lot of TV when I
22:20
Speaker 2: was looking up. Also, I don't know if he did
22:23
Speaker 2: other famous movies, but he was a very big second
22:28
Speaker 2: unit director, like he did Red's, the Warren Baby movie,
22:30
Speaker 2: he did Predator. But he also was because if you
22:35
Speaker 2: noticed that, because the end credits are amazing as Andy said,
22:39
Speaker 2: and a lot of the people with the same last
22:42
Speaker 2: name Baxley were in the credits. So he is actually
22:46
Speaker 2: more of a stunt coordinator and stunt performer. That's kind
22:51
Speaker 2: of his expertise. So I think like his whole family
22:55
Speaker 2: worked on like the stunts for this movie, which were
23:01
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Honestly, you got to give him that credit.
23:05
Speaker 2: The writer. I just I was, as you said to him,
23:07
Speaker 2: so glad you pointed out. I was laughing so hard
23:09
Speaker 2: this morning. The guy who wrote this was seventy four
23:12
Speaker 2: when he wrote this. He just woke up one day
23:15
Speaker 2: so pissed off and was like, fuck, yeah, here we go.
23:19
Speaker 2: I'm just doing this.
23:21
Speaker 1: I was reading about his biography and he wrote a
23:23
Speaker 1: lot of TV scripts in like the fifties. He wrote
23:26
Speaker 1: like for gun smoke and stuff. I was like, what what?
23:30
Speaker 2: But the what?
23:34
Speaker 1: They never let me cut loose, I know, seriously. But
23:38
Speaker 1: the other movie that I was thinking of that I said,
23:41
Speaker 1: was something else famous that this director did was Action Jackson.
23:45
Speaker 1: So debatable and how I've actually never seen Action Jackson,
23:49
Speaker 1: but I know that movie is a thing.
23:52
Speaker 2: I have not seen. It's Carl Weathers, right.
23:55
Speaker 1: Starring Carl Weathers, Yes, and Vanity, who was one of
23:59
Speaker 1: the many, like eleven out of ten women that were
24:02
Speaker 1: discovered by Prince and made famous by Prince. But I
24:05
Speaker 1: was reading about Vanity because I was reading about Action Jackson,
24:09
Speaker 1: and I said in an she said in an interview.
24:12
Speaker 1: So when I first met him, I obviously thought he
24:14
Speaker 1: was gay, and then he just kept following me around,
24:17
Speaker 1: and I was like, why this little gig I keep
24:19
Speaker 1: following me around? And then she eventually realized it was
24:21
Speaker 1: Prince and they started dating, because Prince is very much
24:23
Speaker 1: not gay. But I don't think that that's crazy to
24:26
Speaker 1: think that Vanity also gave up being a celebrity and
24:32
Speaker 1: became like a born again Christian and denounced her denounced
24:36
Speaker 1: her former life.
24:37
Speaker 2: Yes, so we may have to do Action Jackson. Look
24:41
Speaker 2: at this cast, Craig T. Nelson, Sharon Stone, Bill Duke,
24:46
Speaker 2: Robert Dovey from maniaac cop two. Oh my god, we
24:49
Speaker 2: may have to.
24:49
Speaker 1: Do his next sure, sure, so, uh yeah, I think
24:55
Speaker 1: we should just I think we should just dive into
24:57
Speaker 1: the movie. I mean we have a lot of we
24:58
Speaker 1: have twenty five minutes of contact. Now this will be
25:03
Speaker 1: this will be seven parts.
25:07
Speaker 2: And that's just the opening.
25:09
Speaker 1: What year was Cobra, Cobra was.
25:16
Speaker 2: Cobra is eighty eight?
25:19
Speaker 1: Eighty nine?
25:20
Speaker 2: No?
25:21
Speaker 1: Well this this movie just just unapologetically has the same
25:26
Speaker 1: opening scene as Cobra.
25:27
Speaker 2: Eighty six, Cobra's eighty six. I couldn't believe this was
25:30
Speaker 2: ninety one, by the way. That was like, I was,
25:32
Speaker 2: this is nineteen ninety one.
25:34
Speaker 1: Because you thought it was older.
25:36
Speaker 2: Definitely, like it was similar to like in a different
25:39
Speaker 2: way with like point break where I was always in
25:42
Speaker 2: my head, I just in that like it was like
25:43
Speaker 2: a mid eighties or l eighties movies like nineteen ninety
25:46
Speaker 2: on the dot, and I'm like really, but yeah.
25:51
Speaker 1: So apparently this this during this era, America was bombarded
25:55
Speaker 1: by multicultural gangs of maniacs. Like we talked about the
26:00
Speaker 1: in the Friday the Thirteenth pod, how like every gang
26:03
Speaker 1: in the eighties had like a black guy and a
26:05
Speaker 1: white guy and an Asian guy and a little Latino guy,
26:08
Speaker 1: and it's like no, like no, this does this never existed.
26:12
Speaker 1: But they they're in a grocery store, and again, why
26:16
Speaker 1: are they robbing a grocery store? Like rob a bank,
26:19
Speaker 1: rob a pharmacy or something that makes sense? And they love,
26:23
Speaker 1: just like maniacs of the Syria and grocery stores loved
26:26
Speaker 1: just shooting up cereal and other food items with machine guns. Yeah,
26:34
Speaker 1: so that's how the movie starts, just maniacs. And I thought,
26:38
Speaker 1: another thing that's interesting is like this is pre mass shootings,
26:41
Speaker 1: and by what by pre mass shootings? It's not actually
26:44
Speaker 1: like mass shootings already existed very much so nineteen anyone,
26:48
Speaker 1: but they weren't as mainstream as they were now. So
26:51
Speaker 1: I just thought, if I saw a bunch of guys
26:53
Speaker 1: in a grocery store with machine guns, I would not
26:55
Speaker 1: think they were robbing the grocery store. I would think
26:57
Speaker 1: this was a mass shooting. But one like nobody would
27:01
Speaker 1: think that, you know, poor decision.
27:05
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think that these guys are
27:09
Speaker 3: so jacked up in this scene, like they just did
27:13
Speaker 3: cocaine or meth, like the second before they weren't. I
27:17
Speaker 3: don't know. They are so jacked up and cut. You
27:20
Speaker 3: said you watched this on like like one and a
27:23
Speaker 3: half speed. That must have been insane because these guys
27:25
Speaker 3: are at normal speed.
27:28
Speaker 1: I watched it, actually, so the first time I watched
27:31
Speaker 1: it weeks ago on regular speed, and then I watched
27:33
Speaker 1: it yesterday on double speed to like refresh my memory.
27:37
Speaker 1: So yes, I actually I think I had to slow
27:39
Speaker 1: it down during this scene because the ponytail, like the
27:42
Speaker 1: leader with the ponytail, oh man, he was on one.
27:46
Speaker 2: I My first note of this entire thing was when
27:50
Speaker 2: this scene is happening, when the leader who looked a
27:54
Speaker 2: lot like I thought he was Steven Richards, the wrestler.
27:58
Speaker 2: He looked a lot like him. The guy just shoots
28:00
Speaker 2: up the ritz Crackers display and he just goes I
28:03
Speaker 2: love it, I wrote, I love it shooting up the
28:11
Speaker 2: Ritz Crackers. Movie can only go downhill from here.
28:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. The way that they talk is it's like, what
28:18
Speaker 1: was that noise? Man, check out the other aisle, and
28:21
Speaker 1: then it'll be like, all right, I'll go check it out.
28:24
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and it's whoa, whoa, whoa.
28:27
Speaker 2: That guy sweating bullets, going to see what's in the
28:29
Speaker 2: aisle sweating bullets. He's losing it.
28:33
Speaker 1: So as people are being terrorized, you just see a
28:37
Speaker 1: guy cool as a cucumber to make a grocery store
28:41
Speaker 1: upon He is wearing combat boots, jeans, a black leather duster,
28:47
Speaker 1: he has earrings, and he has a bleach blonde mullet.
28:52
Speaker 1: And that man it is Brian Bossworth aka the Boss,
28:57
Speaker 1: and his name in this movie is Joe Huff. Yeah,
29:02
Speaker 1: real name is Joe Huff and he is holding a
29:08
Speaker 1: cook He bites into a cookie, then gets like a
29:11
Speaker 1: shotgun pointed in his face and he says, relax, man,
29:14
Speaker 1: I'll buy it. Making a joke. So rude, But yeah,
29:20
Speaker 1: this is just great. I mean, like Andy explained what
29:24
Speaker 1: happens here, and this is a last action hero really
29:27
Speaker 1: dives into this. But the stereotype of like all the
29:30
Speaker 1: good cops are suspended because they don't play by the rules,
29:34
Speaker 1: because the rules are bullshit, you know what I mean.
29:37
Speaker 1: But explain what happens Andy at.
29:40
Speaker 3: The grocery store. Yes, okay, so Bob's just eats seeing
29:44
Speaker 3: the cookie. These guys are robbing the place. He I
29:49
Speaker 3: think he just beats up the guy and then he
29:51
Speaker 3: like sets up a trap with like some juice on
29:54
Speaker 3: the floor, and then the other guy like slips on
29:57
Speaker 3: it and goes flying like I made a note that
30:00
Speaker 3: he flew like a distance, a lot farther than you
30:02
Speaker 3: should slip on something like I don't know. Yeah, So
30:06
Speaker 3: then he flies and then you know, he apprehends the
30:10
Speaker 3: bad guys or then the cops show up. The cops
30:13
Speaker 3: show up at that moment, and Boz kind of hands
30:16
Speaker 3: them over like I took care of this, don't worry
30:19
Speaker 3: about it, and they tell him, you know, what are
30:21
Speaker 3: you doing here, Bob, You've been suspended. This is I'm
30:25
Speaker 3: gonna tell your boss, and he's just like whatever. Man
30:28
Speaker 3: just walks out.
30:29
Speaker 1: The thing that I love about this is the guitar riffs.
30:32
Speaker 1: So they go, Joe, you're still suspended. What do you
30:35
Speaker 1: have to see if yourself this time? And he looks
30:37
Speaker 1: at it and he and he says this line and
30:39
Speaker 1: then there's an amazing riff, so I'll perform it. What
30:44
Speaker 1: do you have to see for yourself this time? Clean
30:46
Speaker 1: up on Aisle four? And then that's the opening, so called.
30:54
Speaker 2: Let's shout out to the great composer here Sylvester LeVay,
30:57
Speaker 2: we'll do an he did the score for Cobra. He's
31:03
Speaker 2: just continuing his work. Then she eventually made it off
31:07
Speaker 2: to Navy Seals hot shots. Guys killing it, killing it.
31:12
Speaker 3: It's got a lane, he's got a lane to go.
31:16
Speaker 2: Sure. I loved how for how intense this group was
31:23
Speaker 2: of these guys robbing the place, how they all were
31:26
Speaker 2: just defeated by falling. I just thought it was so interesting,
31:29
Speaker 2: like like as anything, like the main guy who was
31:32
Speaker 2: taking the girl hostage sores into that display like he's
31:37
Speaker 2: gone and he's just you just never seen me. It
31:39
Speaker 2: was just like that was enough to take that amount
31:42
Speaker 2: of drug.
31:43
Speaker 3: He should have been his heart exploded at that.
31:48
Speaker 2: He was so overblown by the power.
31:52
Speaker 1: It's it's honestly like three stooges.
31:55
Speaker 2: It looked. It literally was that comical, like including like
31:58
Speaker 2: how like Stone handles it by throwing the can over
32:02
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this idiot will fall for this trick
32:04
Speaker 2: and like throw it over there. I do want to
32:06
Speaker 2: say the girl who they took hostage with the braces.
32:11
Speaker 2: They call it tinsel Teeth. She's credited in the credits
32:16
Speaker 2: is tintal Teeth. I just started laughing when like, this
32:19
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. There's not even like Girl in Store. It
32:22
Speaker 2: was just tinsel teeth lay by Joanna Stevens.
32:25
Speaker 1: Whatever, Oh I just I love so just women in
32:30
Speaker 1: this movie in general, like women have zero part in
32:34
Speaker 1: society at all, and women are just like there to
32:39
Speaker 1: either be terrorized or just to be hot. And also
32:43
Speaker 1: in every context, every woman is playboy playmate hot, like
32:48
Speaker 1: fake boobs, very petite, gorgeous. And when we get to
32:53
Speaker 1: the biker late gang later, these people are disgusting and
32:57
Speaker 1: they're hanging out with like Pamela Anderson and it's like,
33:01
Speaker 1: what is happening? Although maybe that's not a good analogy
33:05
Speaker 1: because she kind of did have that taste in men
33:08
Speaker 1: and still does. But we cut to a biker gang
33:13
Speaker 1: and led by two just incredible character actors that if
33:18
Speaker 1: you google them you will a million percent recognize them.
33:21
Speaker 1: The first shown is the second in command of the gang.
33:25
Speaker 1: His name is Ice, and Ice is portrayed by William Forsyth.
33:30
Speaker 1: So William Forsyth has been in like one hundred thousand movies,
33:34
Speaker 1: but most famously he was in Once upon a Time
33:36
Speaker 1: in America, Raising Arizona. Dick Tracy American Me the Rock,
33:42
Speaker 1: Blue Streak, Bluehill Avenue, Devil's Rejects, Boardwalk Empire, justified, like
33:49
Speaker 1: you would definitely recognize him if you saw him. And
33:55
Speaker 1: Ice is introduced with him and his but these biker
33:59
Speaker 1: this bikeran, it's just you kind of gotta love him, honestly.
34:05
Speaker 1: They alreadypicted as neo Nazis, but other than that, I
34:08
Speaker 1: do kind of respect them. They so Ice and his
34:13
Speaker 1: buddies are just like getting drunk and shooting beers off
34:17
Speaker 1: of each other. So Mudfish, who is in Terminator two,
34:24
Speaker 1: is he the biker that Arnold steals the clothes.
34:27
Speaker 2: From you forgot to say please, that's him exactly.
34:32
Speaker 1: So Mudfish, there's a long tunnel of people, so there's
34:37
Speaker 1: like fifty people on each side and it's a very
34:39
Speaker 1: narrow space. And Ice William Forsyth pulls out like a
34:45
Speaker 1: handheld uzzi to shoot beer off of Mudfish and just
34:50
Speaker 1: sprays it and like hits the beer off. But I
34:54
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, Mudfish would be dead. All
34:56
Speaker 1: the people around them would be dead, and they love it.
35:00
Speaker 1: Like Mudfish thinks this is hilarious.
35:02
Speaker 2: I thought. When I was happening, I'm like, oh, This
35:05
Speaker 2: is the like Ice is gonna be the villain. He
35:07
Speaker 2: just killed this guy when they're having like this fun
35:09
Speaker 2: time on purpose. Then Mudfish just starts laughing and I
35:12
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, it's a whole group of them and
35:17
Speaker 2: this this also intercuts with the the the killing.
35:24
Speaker 1: That's I have to talk about that in a set
35:27
Speaker 1: and we will. I don't even know if he's shown yet,
35:29
Speaker 1: but we should just mention the leader of the biker
35:33
Speaker 1: gang is the fucking legend. Is he still alive? Ryan?
35:37
Speaker 2: I believe he is.
35:39
Speaker 1: Lance Hendrickson. He plays Chains, the leader of the biker gang.
35:46
Speaker 1: He's gonna be so old he is still alive.
35:51
Speaker 2: Eighty six, Wow, eighty six.
35:54
Speaker 1: So again, Lance Hendrickson. I like him as an actor
35:57
Speaker 1: more than William Forsyth. Of Lance Hendrickson. He most famously
36:02
Speaker 1: plays Bishop in the Alien franchise and Whale and Utani,
36:07
Speaker 1: who like what is what Wale? Utani is just like
36:10
Speaker 1: the Mega Corporation and the Alien Predator franchise. But Bishop
36:14
Speaker 1: and Aliens just legendary role. But he was the main
36:19
Speaker 1: character in the TV series Millennium, which was great Frank
36:23
Speaker 1: Black because X Files was like Aliens and Millennium was Demons.
36:28
Speaker 1: It was the Demons version of X Files. He was
36:32
Speaker 1: in The Right Stuff, Terminator one, Pumpkinhead, Classic, Hard Target,
36:38
Speaker 1: Classic Color of Night, Quick in the Dead he plays
36:42
Speaker 1: Ace in the Quick in the Day. That's gonna be
36:45
Speaker 1: one of the greatest like casts of all time.
36:47
Speaker 4: The Queen, Powder Scream three, Appaloosa, which is I enjoyed
36:57
Speaker 4: Appaloosa as a Western but also as he's been in
37:01
Speaker 4: a lot of video games.
37:02
Speaker 1: He was in Gun, he was in Call of Duty
37:05
Speaker 1: Modern Warfare. Ryan. I mean, sorry, Andy, were you gonna
37:07
Speaker 1: say something?
37:09
Speaker 3: No, I say, I haven't seen any of these movies.
37:11
Speaker 1: But you've never saw Aliens Alien too. You never saw that?
37:16
Speaker 2: No?
37:17
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, all right, sorry. So honestly, when we've
37:20
Speaker 1: been Heart Target.
37:22
Speaker 3: I've seen Heart Target.
37:23
Speaker 1: Though Heart Target we we've already talked about JCVD at length.
37:28
Speaker 1: Heart Target is actually, to me is like an overrated
37:31
Speaker 1: JCVD movie. But love Lance Hendrickson, and I think he's
37:36
Speaker 1: genuinely great as chains in this movie.
37:39
Speaker 2: He's right because he's not like he looks like no
37:42
Speaker 2: one else in the movie, which was smart. I like
37:45
Speaker 2: that he's not like the other guys are pretty much
37:47
Speaker 2: bigger people and he's not typically this kind of person.
37:52
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, so this is probably the hardest I
37:57
Speaker 1: laughed in the entire movie. It shows there is a
38:01
Speaker 1: there is an elderly male Catholic priest in priest uniform
38:06
Speaker 1: and collar, baptizing a baby, and then this guy, this
38:12
Speaker 1: bald biker comes out of nowhere with a double barrel
38:16
Speaker 1: shotgun and the priest just looks confused, and this guy
38:21
Speaker 1: just blows the priest away through a stained glass window.
38:25
Speaker 1: I immediately did like a screen record and texted you guys,
38:29
Speaker 1: because I could not believe this it.
38:32
Speaker 2: First of all, the guy is fucking huge, so how
38:36
Speaker 2: did anyone not see him come in? He's he's so big,
38:41
Speaker 2: And it's like this all of this like the can
38:48
Speaker 2: shoot out, the fallout from the robbery, and this I wrote,
38:53
Speaker 2: this opening is six movies in three minutes. I was
38:57
Speaker 2: so confused with like, what is happening? What is the
39:01
Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane.
39:02
Speaker 1: So it shows this this murderer who murdered a priest
39:07
Speaker 1: in a church baptizing a baby in cold blood. The
39:11
Speaker 1: judge sentences him to forty five years in prison, with
39:14
Speaker 1: like the he can get out after forty five years
39:17
Speaker 1: if he's still alive, which is shockingly lenient. Chains yells bullshit,
39:23
Speaker 1: like he's pissed at this sentence, like you thought he
39:25
Speaker 1: would go free. And then the gang, even though he
39:29
Speaker 1: got ridiculously everybody in the media was like, he should
39:32
Speaker 1: get the death sentence. You only got forty five years.
39:34
Speaker 1: The gang still kills the judge because he sentenced this
39:38
Speaker 1: guy to anything. They blow up his boat while he's
39:41
Speaker 1: on it. So these guys, these guys are not good.
39:46
Speaker 1: They're bad news. What are you saying, Andy, No, they're
39:49
Speaker 1: bad news.
39:50
Speaker 3: They're like the Lost Boys, but bad, really bad.
39:53
Speaker 1: But when you say the Lost Boys, you mean like
39:55
Speaker 1: the vampires or you mean like hook oh houck.
39:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the Lost Boys of Vampires too.
40:02
Speaker 1: But and now again, this is a classic trope that
40:09
Speaker 1: I always love is when they portray the action hero
40:14
Speaker 1: badasses like apartment lifestyle, single living. This is always great. Yes,
40:21
Speaker 1: he is making a smoothie that I thought was for himself.
40:27
Speaker 1: I almost wish it was. But the ingredients are orange juice,
40:32
Speaker 1: potato chips, bananas, Snickers bars, raw eggs including the shells,
40:39
Speaker 1: and hot sauce. But he is not making it for himself.
40:43
Speaker 1: He is making it for.
40:47
Speaker 3: Komodo dragon.
40:49
Speaker 1: It is It is not a komodo dragon, very very close.
40:53
Speaker 1: It is a monitor lizard. I'm an animal nerd, and
40:57
Speaker 1: I recognize that right away, and I love how like
41:01
Speaker 1: I was reading trivia for this movie and so many
41:04
Speaker 1: people wrote and like the IMDb trivia monitor lizards cannot
41:08
Speaker 1: process citrus, and it was like, shut the fuck.
41:13
Speaker 3: I thought it was a Komodo dragon, and I was like,
41:15
Speaker 3: what is he feeding to an endangered species right now?
41:18
Speaker 2: For Jesus Christ, that.
41:23
Speaker 1: I feel like pre and the one thing that did
41:25
Speaker 1: just to be a total animal nerd and do a
41:28
Speaker 1: one eighty on me criticizing the people that said that.
41:30
Speaker 1: One thing that like, I feel like before pre Internet,
41:33
Speaker 1: people were just so stupid and we humored them. And
41:36
Speaker 1: one thing that I fucking hate in movies and television
41:39
Speaker 1: shows is when like somebody's typing on a computer and
41:44
Speaker 1: the typing the computer will go like beepoo beep, boop
41:46
Speaker 1: beet beep, or like searching on the Internet will make
41:49
Speaker 1: these like electricity sounds, you know what I mean. It's like, no,
41:52
Speaker 1: we don't need that, So monitor lizards don't make sounds.
41:56
Speaker 1: And they added in pig noises because I think for
42:00
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they felt like the lizard needed to be
42:03
Speaker 1: able to vocalize in some way, so that was stupid.
42:09
Speaker 2: I really like the lizards gasp though when the FBI
42:12
Speaker 2: comes in they I love that they end the scene
42:14
Speaker 2: with the lizard acting surprised. That was great.
42:18
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, and he well, sorry, no, go ahead.
42:22
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, cuff to your point. Cobra has
42:25
Speaker 3: the other one of these like living situations scenes where
42:29
Speaker 3: he like is cutting pizza with scissors and has doesn't
42:33
Speaker 3: seem like he knows how to use a microwave or
42:35
Speaker 3: he doesn't have a kitchen.
42:38
Speaker 1: One of the all time one of the all time funniest,
42:41
Speaker 1: like Adam Carolla things. I'm not a big Adam Krola fan.
42:43
Speaker 3: Was.
42:44
Speaker 1: He was talking about this on his podcast, and he's like,
42:46
Speaker 1: he gets out of bed, there's empty beer cans everywhere.
42:50
Speaker 1: He's eaten three day old pizza with scissors, but he's
42:53
Speaker 1: fucking ripped, like shredded, jacked, and he is approached by
43:02
Speaker 1: two wonderful character actors. So who are these two character actors? Ryan?
43:08
Speaker 1: One of them is in Sopranos, one of them is
43:11
Speaker 1: in Seinfeld. I think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Sam McMurray is Lance, who becomes his partner.
43:18
Speaker 2: He also was in Raising Arizona. Also was the voice
43:23
Speaker 2: of Roy the neighbor on the sitcom Dinosaurs. Oh been
43:29
Speaker 2: around for a while. And the Mama the other guy
43:35
Speaker 2: I love and was so excited to see him. Richard Gant,
43:39
Speaker 2: who played George Washington Duke that's the name looking up
43:43
Speaker 2: now in Rocky five, who is like their version of
43:46
Speaker 2: Don King.
43:48
Speaker 1: Also doesn't he eat Jason's heart and Jason goes to hell?
43:52
Speaker 2: He absolutely does. That's just unreal. How I mention your
44:00
Speaker 2: mother Seinfeld, Posse, nypd Blue, big Lebowski, Deadwood. It's insane,
44:09
Speaker 2: h the clumps.
44:12
Speaker 1: And and so you're talking about there's a white dude
44:15
Speaker 1: and a black dude. You're talking about the black dude
44:16
Speaker 1: the white dude. I remember this in The Sopranos. He
44:19
Speaker 1: was like a doctor that couldn't see Junior or something.
44:23
Speaker 1: So then I could be remembering this wrong. So they go,
44:27
Speaker 1: they show up that he's playing golf, and I think
44:31
Speaker 1: this is the scene where Furio goes, there's a b
44:33
Speaker 1: on your hat and he like slaps the hat off
44:35
Speaker 1: his head to intimidate him. But they so they basically say,
44:43
Speaker 1: we need you, like we the FBI, we're two FBI agents.
44:46
Speaker 1: We need you, random cop because you're so fucking good.
44:53
Speaker 1: We need you to infiltrate a biker gang and go undercover.
44:58
Speaker 1: And Joe is so badass that he says no obviously,
45:02
Speaker 1: and they say, but you're if you say no, your
45:04
Speaker 1: three week suspension just turned to six months. So they
45:09
Speaker 1: need him to go undercover in Mississippi and they're in Alabama,
45:14
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't know, I would
45:18
Speaker 1: there's a lot of how would they not know? How
45:22
Speaker 1: would there not be any overlap of like people recognizing
45:26
Speaker 1: him or I don't know that this whole it doesn't
45:29
Speaker 1: seem like a very well thought out plan to me.
45:34
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so he yeah, sorry, go ahead.
45:40
Speaker 3: I was more said, I was more concerned with, like,
45:44
Speaker 3: what's what's Joe doing after this movie and before this?
45:47
Speaker 3: Like how long has he had this job? Because I
45:49
Speaker 3: don't imagine that he's been in like insubordination must happened
45:53
Speaker 3: like every three weeks for this guy, Like he just
45:55
Speaker 3: seemed to care. He's too cool for an organized job.
46:00
Speaker 1: This and to be Devil's advocate, Like remember famously Ryan
46:04
Speaker 1: when I was talking to Paul about how bad of
46:06
Speaker 1: a movie The Patriot is with Mel Gibson, and then
46:09
Speaker 1: a random stranger came up to me and told me
46:11
Speaker 1: how wrong I was. Yes, So if that guy was arguing,
46:16
Speaker 1: he'd say, like, they targeted him because they know he's
46:20
Speaker 1: very deep in the biker culture, so it makes sense
46:23
Speaker 1: for him to infiltrate a biker gang.
46:26
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I would think this if he
46:31
Speaker 2: it seems like everything goes the way of the supermarket robbery,
46:36
Speaker 2: a lot of extreme damage for probably minimal conseq minimal.
46:41
Speaker 2: I would assume he's hopefully new on the job and
46:44
Speaker 2: they're just kind of slapping him on the wrist. I
46:46
Speaker 2: hope if this is like five years then it's like
46:49
Speaker 2: the other guy's situation, where like Sam Jackson and the
46:53
Speaker 2: Rock are chasing a bag of weed and it costs
46:55
Speaker 2: two million dollars in the city in New York for
46:57
Speaker 2: the damages. It's like, what's point.
47:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, once we get to the end of this movie,
47:03
Speaker 1: it was one million percent of mistake to ask Joe
47:06
Speaker 1: to do this. This is not the right call to
47:09
Speaker 1: ask him.
47:11
Speaker 3: He got his man, Joe Huff.
47:13
Speaker 1: He technically did I guess, but so he accepts and
47:22
Speaker 1: then Lance, the white FBI agent shows up at his apartment,
47:26
Speaker 1: bright and early. Boz is wearing a speedo. Loved that
47:29
Speaker 1: or like just basically like tight black underwear looks fucking great,
47:35
Speaker 1: Liz just ripped, looks hot, and just some hot nude
47:40
Speaker 1: slut is in his bed. I absolutely love. Lance walks
47:45
Speaker 1: into his bedroom and there is a one hundred percent
47:47
Speaker 1: just probably like the playmate of the month April nineteen
47:51
Speaker 1: eighty nine. Uh, she's just nude in the bed and
47:55
Speaker 1: doesn't care at all that Lance the agent is seeing
47:59
Speaker 1: her completely nude.
48:01
Speaker 2: Just did not face her at all. Yeah.
48:04
Speaker 1: No, and he's just like see you later, baby, and
48:06
Speaker 1: she's like thanks, Joe. He is a very nice apartment. Also,
48:12
Speaker 1: very nice apartment. Makes no sense.
48:14
Speaker 2: He must be getting paid on suspension. That's my guests.
48:17
Speaker 2: He has to be.
48:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote.
48:20
Speaker 3: I wrote that they had they like included the scene.
48:22
Speaker 3: They had to include a scene with like a hot girl,
48:24
Speaker 3: just to be like Joe, Joe's getting these hot women.
48:28
Speaker 3: But they've like cut scenes for the partner because the
48:30
Speaker 3: partner in this movie like disappears and he's barely in it.
48:33
Speaker 3: That's what I wrote, I need this one drop these Yeah.
48:38
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, And Lance and Joe are going to work together,
48:44
Speaker 1: but Joe says, I don't work with a partner because
48:47
Speaker 1: he's such a badass. But as any good action movie does,
48:54
Speaker 1: Joe goes undercover. First place he goes is a strip club. Obviously,
49:01
Speaker 1: I wrote this note a strip club with a live band.
49:05
Speaker 1: I've never seen that in my life. And Alabama.
49:10
Speaker 3: That's an Alabama biker bar, thing from my experience when
49:14
Speaker 3: I'm down there.
49:14
Speaker 1: From your experience, you've been to a lot of strip
49:16
Speaker 1: clubs live bands. No, actually, I just I love the music.
49:21
Speaker 1: I'm really into this band. I'm just like you're seeing
49:28
Speaker 1: you like buy Penthouse for the articles. Lance is also
49:33
Speaker 1: undercover looks like a dork, and I thought this was
49:37
Speaker 1: just really bad writing. It's like wedged in some joke
49:41
Speaker 1: about how Lance is a nerd because he's a germophobe,
49:45
Speaker 1: and he asks for a glass at the biker bar,
49:47
Speaker 1: which honestly makes no sense because if you're if you
49:50
Speaker 1: care about germs, which is gonna have more germs? Is
49:53
Speaker 1: it gonna be drinking out of a beer can you
49:56
Speaker 1: just opened, or getting a glass at some sketchy biker
50:00
Speaker 1: our strip club. But maybe it's like it's maybe it's
50:02
Speaker 1: not even a germophobic joke. Maybe it's a he's a
50:05
Speaker 1: fancy pants he's not like a blue collar guy joke.
50:09
Speaker 1: I don't know.
50:11
Speaker 2: You thought about that more than the person who wrote it.
50:15
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I'm just trying to give him a thing.
50:19
Speaker 1: My next note is Joe is the fucking man. That's
50:22
Speaker 1: just I don't even know what the context was, but
50:24
Speaker 1: that's my note.
50:28
Speaker 2: Is that when he approaches Ice, h.
50:31
Speaker 1: Well, he says to Lance. First, he goes, I'm gonna
50:34
Speaker 1: go make some noise. Sit tight. But uh yeah, so Brian, well,
50:41
Speaker 1: how don't you talk about how he chooses? So Ice
50:44
Speaker 1: is the second in command of a very very dangerous
50:47
Speaker 1: priest killing biker gang, and how does he choose to
50:50
Speaker 1: approach Ice to infiltrate the gang?
50:54
Speaker 2: He approaches him and says, Hey, your lady is looking
50:58
Speaker 2: at me or something of that type.
50:59
Speaker 1: Right, He says, why has your girlfriend been eyeing me
51:02
Speaker 1: all night? And says that.
51:06
Speaker 2: Ice loves it, to be honest, he likes not to
51:08
Speaker 2: say like He's like, Okay, I see what this guy's
51:10
Speaker 2: trying to do here, And he makes a very terrible joke.
51:15
Speaker 2: That was just like this guy was like bam bam,
51:18
Speaker 2: like from the Flintstones, and I was like, not your.
51:21
Speaker 3: Best No, no, no, no, that's really funny, you say
51:24
Speaker 3: Ice liked that, because you're right, he did like that.
51:27
Speaker 2: I didn't think I'm saying, let's see what this guy's
51:30
Speaker 2: doing here.
51:30
Speaker 1: Because the Ice is absolutely fucking crazy, and this guy
51:34
Speaker 1: is as crazy as he is, so he's like sorry, He's.
51:37
Speaker 2: Like, oh cool. So someone takes a crack at Jude
51:44
Speaker 2: and it escalates and then gut is with Ice, and
51:50
Speaker 2: I think he likes Glate situation a little bit.
51:53
Speaker 1: Well, this this I absolutely love. So some gentlemen who
51:57
Speaker 1: are truckers I believe, go to the bar to confront
52:01
Speaker 1: the strippers. So this is a biker bar, strip club
52:04
Speaker 1: run by like an extremely dangerous biker gang. These truckers
52:09
Speaker 1: try to they request an exchange. They were like, yeah,
52:14
Speaker 1: you know, strippers, we purchase all these drugs from you.
52:17
Speaker 1: They weren't good drugs, so we would really like our
52:20
Speaker 1: money back, and if you don't give us our money back,
52:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to like beat you up. This is what
52:28
Speaker 1: these mail truckers said to these strippers. So obviously, they
52:32
Speaker 1: just want to commit suicide and Ice doesn't. Ice doesn't
52:38
Speaker 1: appreciate that.
52:39
Speaker 2: A lot of euphoria season four in this movie, a
52:43
Speaker 2: lot of not kidding.
52:47
Speaker 1: So there's a fight breaks out and Joe Brian Bosworth
52:52
Speaker 1: decides this is a great way to prove myself because
52:54
Speaker 1: so he just kicks everybody's ass. He throws a guy
52:57
Speaker 1: into glass shelves behind the bar. The guy would definitely
53:01
Speaker 1: be dead, and I was like, no way with his
53:03
Speaker 1: bar ever have glass shelves behind me.
53:07
Speaker 2: I love that. That was so I was dying with that.
53:10
Speaker 2: That was so good.
53:13
Speaker 1: Uh. And he says what they're like, great job fighting man,
53:16
Speaker 1: what's your name? And in a panic, he's like, oh no,
53:19
Speaker 1: my name's Joe Huff. I haven't thought this through. So
53:21
Speaker 1: he says, my name is John Stone. It's the most
53:25
Speaker 1: made up name of all time. And he meets another
53:28
Speaker 1: gang member named Gut as Ryan says, and uh. He says,
53:35
Speaker 1: basically like I want to join your gang. Poor Gut
53:37
Speaker 1: is right. He says, I want to join your gang,
53:39
Speaker 1: and Ice is like, no, fuck you, I don't know
53:41
Speaker 1: you again. One of the themes of this movie, Ice
53:44
Speaker 1: is right. Ice is always right.
53:49
Speaker 3: Ice from Stone Cold.
53:50
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. So the next day so Ice is like, no,
53:55
Speaker 1: you can't be in our gang, Like, fuck off, I
53:57
Speaker 1: don't care that you beat up these guys. The next
53:59
Speaker 1: day of the ers are having one of their other
54:01
Speaker 1: you know, let's shoot beers off each other rally, and
54:06
Speaker 1: Joe challenges Ice to a race and Joe ends up
54:11
Speaker 1: beating Ice in the race, and Ice is very mad
54:15
Speaker 1: at that, but to even further prove himself. And this
54:20
Speaker 1: is where wrestling comes into to play. There's a character
54:24
Speaker 1: named Mountain who is a pit fighter. I guess in
54:28
Speaker 1: the gang. There's just they have pit fights every day,
54:31
Speaker 1: and like people can challenge this guy who is a
54:34
Speaker 1: brick shit house. He was enous, is enormous. His name
54:39
Speaker 1: is Mountain, and when I saw him, I immediately said,
54:43
Speaker 1: holy shit, that is Tom McGhee. Ryan, do you know
54:46
Speaker 1: who Tom McGee is? I don't, Okay, So I need
54:51
Speaker 1: to talk about this. This is the legend of Brett Hart.
54:55
Speaker 1: So this this match, Brett Hart versus Tom McGhee has
55:00
Speaker 1: a Wikipedia page just that match. Now Brett Hart. Brett Hart,
55:05
Speaker 1: he was not like he can't do a shooting star
55:08
Speaker 1: press and backflips and all this crazy shit. But Brett
55:12
Speaker 1: Hart is called the excellence of execution and also called
55:15
Speaker 1: the best, there is, the best, there was, the best
55:17
Speaker 1: there ever will be. Because Brett Hart was flawless in
55:21
Speaker 1: the ring. And when you have a coordinated fight with someone,
55:25
Speaker 1: it's like a dance, you know, like you need a
55:27
Speaker 1: partner that's going to make you look good, that's going
55:31
Speaker 1: to not injure you, that's gonna know what they're doing,
55:35
Speaker 1: it's going to execute well. So this is how fucking
55:38
Speaker 1: good Brett Hart is and this is why this is
55:41
Speaker 1: so legendary. So this guy is enormous. Tom McGee he
55:46
Speaker 1: was a powerlifter. He's tall, he's jacked, he's handsome, he's long,
55:49
Speaker 1: curly hair. So he had a tryout match in the
55:52
Speaker 1: WWE with Brett Hart, and Tom McGee looked like a
55:57
Speaker 1: million dollars. The match was amazing. He looked fucking perfect.
56:02
Speaker 1: So Vince like man is seeing this and he's like,
56:06
Speaker 1: holy shit, this guy is the next Hull Cogan. He's
56:09
Speaker 1: an amazing wrestler and he looks like a million dollars,
56:13
Speaker 1: he's handsome. I'm going to just give him the world.
56:17
Speaker 1: You are the next Hull Cogan. So he's like, you
56:19
Speaker 1: are the next Hull. Cogan signs me to a contract,
56:22
Speaker 1: gives him all this money, and then Tom McGee starts
56:26
Speaker 1: having other matches, and then Vince's like, what the fuck?
56:29
Speaker 1: This guy's terrible. Every single other match he has looks
56:33
Speaker 1: like shit, He's completely uncoordinated, he doesn't know timing, he
56:37
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to do anything. He's injuring people. And
56:40
Speaker 1: then they realize, oh, Brett Hard is so fucking good
56:46
Speaker 1: that he can take some random asshole and make him
56:49
Speaker 1: look like a million dollars. So the reason that this
56:53
Speaker 1: is so legendary is because this story was circulating for
56:58
Speaker 1: like decades, but nobody ever saw their match. It wasn't taped,
57:02
Speaker 1: and then like and then like five years ago or
57:05
Speaker 1: maybe I'm butchering this, but you know, decades after the
57:09
Speaker 1: match took place, somebody online found a tape of Brett
57:13
Speaker 1: Hart versus Tom McGee, and when it was when it
57:16
Speaker 1: was released online, like wrestling fans and wrestling historians were like,
57:20
Speaker 1: holy fucking shit. It was like finding the Holy Grail.
57:23
Speaker 1: And that's why it has a Wikipedia page. But that's
57:25
Speaker 1: how goddamn good Brett Hart was at Pro Wrestling.
57:30
Speaker 2: Wow I've never ever heard of that before.
57:33
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yep. So Tom McGee's mountain in this movie
57:37
Speaker 1: and Bos challenges him to a fight, and uh yeah,
57:41
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like a typical eighties movie fight.
57:43
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe it. Do you
57:45
Speaker 1: have any memories of this fight?
57:47
Speaker 2: It's just super quick. What my fair memory is when
57:50
Speaker 2: they show the crowd reacting some guy just the tone
57:53
Speaker 2: of his voice just fucking screams, fucking wham, and the
57:57
Speaker 2: way he did it was just like it stood out
57:59
Speaker 2: so much to me. I couldn't make it out of
58:01
Speaker 2: my head. It was so insane.
58:03
Speaker 1: Oh well, a lot of questions like where are the
58:06
Speaker 1: cops or the cops just just like I don't want
58:09
Speaker 1: to deal with this, that they're having these rallies with
58:11
Speaker 1: pit fights and shooting machine guns, shooting beer off each other,
58:14
Speaker 1: like they're just like I just don't want to deal
58:15
Speaker 1: with this.
58:16
Speaker 2: It's just so it's it's probably just like it's just
58:22
Speaker 2: a mascrift to deal with, Like what's the they hamster
58:25
Speaker 2: damned it if you will. Yeah, so I'm not surprised
58:29
Speaker 2: at all. So this is when we get to Brotherhood Fortress.
58:34
Speaker 1: Well not not yet. So after the pit fight, they're
58:37
Speaker 1: still at the party. That's when that's when Stone finally
58:42
Speaker 1: meets Chains because he thought every he beat up everybody
58:46
Speaker 1: at the strip club. He beat Ice in a race,
58:48
Speaker 1: and he beat up Mountain. So Chains is like, all right,
58:52
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. So he goes back to his
58:54
Speaker 1: van and then Andy, do you remember what happens when
58:56
Speaker 1: he goes back to his van?
58:58
Speaker 2: Uh?
58:59
Speaker 3: Chains, girl's going through all this stuff. I think Change
59:02
Speaker 3: is trying to get some intel on Stone. I think
59:04
Speaker 3: it's a good move.
59:06
Speaker 1: I agree, I think it is a good move. And
59:07
Speaker 1: he's in. Stone says, why your old lady going through
59:09
Speaker 1: my shit? And Change says, this is cockroach. She's my
59:13
Speaker 1: house mouse. Take take her and have some fun.
59:17
Speaker 3: So Change property on this.
59:21
Speaker 1: Yes, Change just says, like take cockroach, who's changes his
59:25
Speaker 1: girlfriend and like, hey, you really impressed me today. Just
59:30
Speaker 1: sleep with my girlfriend. And he's like, if you want
59:33
Speaker 1: to get to the Brotherhood, which is the name of
59:35
Speaker 1: this motorcycle gang, you got to talk to me. But
59:38
Speaker 1: I like you so far. Here's my girlfriend. And Ryan
59:42
Speaker 1: as being a gentleman that Stone aka Joe Huff aka
59:46
Speaker 1: Boz is what does he say, when he's alone with cockroach.
59:50
Speaker 2: You don't just give someone like this away exactly exactly.
59:55
Speaker 1: She says, this is my actual note. I just laughed
59:58
Speaker 1: out loud because I forgot I wrote that. She says,
1:00:01
Speaker 1: I just want to show you a good time, and
1:00:03
Speaker 1: he says I don't want it, and she says why
1:00:06
Speaker 1: and then he looks over dead in the eye and says,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: I'm gay. Oh, nobody finds up. Nobody finds up. Funny
1:00:14
Speaker 1: to me.
1:00:16
Speaker 3: I liked the part, and this too. When the chains
1:00:19
Speaker 3: asked Stone like who you with and he's like, I'm
1:00:21
Speaker 3: an independent.
1:00:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. So immediately again the theme hashtag Ice is right. Ice goes, hey, change,
1:00:30
Speaker 1: this guy's a cop. Clear as day. This guy's a cop.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: He shows up out a fucking nowhere. He's like billy badass.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: He's never been associated with a motorcycle gang. He wants
1:00:40
Speaker 1: to get in on our gang. He has all these
1:00:41
Speaker 1: connections with no explanation. Later in the movie, he basically
1:00:45
Speaker 1: says I can get you a mac truckload of PCP,
1:00:50
Speaker 1: and he's like, P two p thank you, thank you,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: thank you, And Ice is like, yeah, change, this guy's
1:00:58
Speaker 1: obviously a cop. But then Ryan, what you.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Also vanishes all the time. I'll be right back.
1:01:10
Speaker 3: Where were you still, I don't worry about it.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: I was at the doctor. I have hemorrhoids from from
1:01:21
Speaker 1: riding my bike. But so no. So now we're we're
1:01:26
Speaker 1: going to the bike. We're going to the Biker Fortress.
1:01:30
Speaker 1: It's already been an hour, guys. We're going to the
1:01:33
Speaker 1: Biker Fortress, which is a highlight, and that's where we're
1:01:37
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna kick off in part two is we're
1:01:39
Speaker 1: going to enter the Biker Fortresses. Ryan mentioned, let's do
1:01:43
Speaker 1: it all right, Thank you for listening. We will be
1:01:48
Speaker 1: back soon with the rest of Stone.
1:01:51
Speaker 2: Could