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Episode #85: mRNA Shots Being Used in Our Food Supply? · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the first the first we know we heard about MRNA literally was with COVID, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean we didn't know that there was a that there was a parallel, you know, a a backdoor parallel thing going on with livestock for literally, you know, years and years prior to this on you.
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  SPEAKER_00: We thought this was this was kind of brand new.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well it turns out it's not just brand new.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello everybody, welcome to another segment of Beyond Labels Podcast with yours truly, Joel Salatin, the dirt farmer, and uh Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena McCullough, our favorite researcher in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena has been digging into this uh uh for the last several days, and uh I'm gonna turn it over to her uh to to address what she's starting to find.
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  SPEAKER_00: This will probably be two episodes of the podcast because it is a wide-ranging and deep uh discussion.
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  SPEAKER_00: For those of you who are wondering why um I'm not live videoing, uh we're having internet trouble here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to rural America uh Wi-Fi problems.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm doing audio only today, and that's why you don't see any live video from me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh Cena, go ahead and and introduce the topic here and and start us down this uh uh this issue of mRNA uh vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll we'll call them vaccines for the sake of uh discussion here uh in livestock.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, thanks, Joel.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, as Joel mentioned, I've spent probably about 40 hours now in the last few days researching this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was hoping it was just a conspiracy theory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you can tell by the number of hours I researched it that this is not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um this just came to mine and Joel's attention in probably the last week, like most of us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, Tom Wrenz is a lawyer who turned freedom fighter for informed consent, and he is largely credited with breaking the story that um mRNA um injections are coming to the food supply starting this month.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is claiming that cattlemen in several states are going to begin vaccinating their cows with an mRNA injection um this month in April.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and also that no states are requiring labeling, meaning that there is no informed consent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, this is obviously very concerning.
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  SPEAKER_01: If these claims are true, then um there it is the consumer's concern and pushback is founded because both Moderna and Pfizer admitted in FDC filings that this mRNA injection is in fact gene therapy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if these claims are in fact true, then even if you buy organic uh meat, chickens, and eggs, you're actually not necessarily avoiding these mRNA injections.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we'll go into all of this, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna share what I have found after researching this.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna cover a lot of information because this is a game changer.
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  SPEAKER_01: For everybody who wants to eat clean, healthy food and know what's in their food.
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  SPEAKER_01: This news is actually a game changer.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's disturbing.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Joel and I are going to provide solutions.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's walk in faith and not fear, all right, as we learn this truth together.
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  SPEAKER_01: So here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's start with cows.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cows um have been experimented on with testing mRNA vaccines for about a decade.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is documented, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So as I said, most of us, including myself, and I'm gonna gather you too, Joel, have been asleep at the wheel, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know this was happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the first, the first we know we heard about mRNA literally was with COVID, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we didn't know that there was a that there was a parallel, you know, a a backdoor parallel thing going on with livestock for literally, you know, years and years prior to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: On we thought this was this was kind of brand new.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it turns out it's not just brand new.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as we're gonna uncover the truth today, uh, or the next couple series, it's not just livestock, Jill, it's also our plants.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is wide-reaching tentacles of these mRNA injections.
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  SPEAKER_01: So for cows, we know that there's documentation that we have they have been working on these mRNA injections for over a decade.
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  SPEAKER_01: In fact, Iowa State University is working on an mRNA injection for cows to prevent bovine respiratory umstential virus or RSV, and that's uh partially funded by the USDA.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's our tax dollars at work.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, now the National Cattlemen's Beef Association came out on April 5th and made a um a public statement, a press release, about whether or not this is actually true, like whether or not um Tom Rennes's claims about RNA injections being used in cows are true.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is what they said.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are correcting internet falsehoods about mRNA vaccine in cattle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, it says their quote is there are no current mRNA vaccines licensed for use in beef cattle in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cattle farmers and ranchers do vaccinate cattle to treat and prevent many diseases, but presently none of these vaccines include mRNA technology.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, now that's from the National Cattlemen's Beef Association.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, of course, mainstream media ran with that story, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like this is fake news, there's no mRNA vaccines in being given to cattle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, on video, there's a lobbyist for the Missouri Cattlemen's Association.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, not the National Cattlemen's Association, this is for Missouri Cattlemen's Association.
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  SPEAKER_01: He spoke before the House Committee in Missouri under official testimony stating that he just double Rouble mRNA vaccinated against bovine respiratory disease before selling his cattle.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna do something for the first time on our low-tech show.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to play the video so that you can hear this testimony for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here's the video.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you hear from his own, the lobbyist's own mouth, that he not only said he's not an expert in the area, he didn't know anything about mRNA vaccines, but he double vaccinated his cattle and then so brought them to butcher, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Selling the cattle, and then he got more cattle, and um first thing he did was vaccinate them again with this mRNA vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the question is who's actually telling the truth, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: The National Association is saying they're not using this, but a Missouri cattleman goes on record saying that he's using it now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's kind of like uh he said she said, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But he is this is official testimony.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, you know, uh Cena, I think it's interesting I mean, uh farmers farmers have used vaccines for decades and decades.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean uh the the kind of thing this bovine uh this bovine respiratory uh virus uh that he's talking about uh uh farmers have vaccinated against this for uh a long, long time, but it's been uh it's been the normal, you know, the normal vaccines, the the vaccines that you and I are are kind of familiar with.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so the so the mRNA is is a new twist.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um I don't know I think I think what we have to do is for you to explain what level of uh risk or problem is taking an old s old style vaccine that's been used for you know goodness, eighty, ninety years um and and changing that to an mRNA um injection.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so first off, I mean and that's a great question, um animal vaccines undergo um usually less scrutiny uh than human vaccines, all right, just in general speak.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean obviously we we know we've talked about this before on this show, that even the human vaccines don't go through a lot of scrutiny, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but so there's there's less scrutiny here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um the what they still don't know is how long this genetic material stays in the body.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I I don't know right now this the the the video that you played, I'm not sure those cattle were going directly to slaughter.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: There I don't see any reason why somebody would give a vaccine to an animal that's heading to slaughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh chances are they're they're in they're in transit somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: They may be going to a feedlot uh for fattening up, but you know, I can't imagine somebody giving a vaccine on their way to slaughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: That just doesn't make any sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're they're gonna be killed anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why give them a vaccine?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, why pay all that money for something?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't I don't want us to read any more into this video than you know than than is than is there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh the fact is that he's very clear that he is indeed using an mRNA vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh as a farm, of course, I don't buy the I don't buy vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even buy old style vaccines, so I'm not very uh adept at this, but um does does does the does the label the label on the bottle of liquid actually say mRNA versus uh the old style?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or is this just something that he happens to know?
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's actually a great question, because as I've been learning about this, I've been calling the local farms in my area.
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  SPEAKER_01: And because clearly we're getting completely out of the grocery store, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I've been calling all these local farms in my area asking, do you vaccinate?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you vaccinate with if you do vaccinate?
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  SPEAKER_01: And one farm after the next is telling me, oh, yeah, we only vaccinate with the traditional vaccines, you know, and the very minimal ones.
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  SPEAKER_01: But as I'm researching this, I'm realizing that the farms and even possibly some of the veterinarians don't actually know that there are now these mRNA vaccines, right?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: And and that will be become more clear as I go through the timeline with you, but they're not even aware in sometimes that that the vaccines, these mRNA vaccines, have replaced the what we would call traditional vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's a possibility that they don't even know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the farmers that I spoke with on the phone, they didn't have any idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: They said um they follow the lead of their veterinarian.
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  SPEAKER_01: So just calling the farm in this instance, just calling the farm may not be enough, is what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: I currently am working with a local farm where I'm gonna go um speak with the farm owner and the veterinarian and bring the research and just to show them, like just to help them out.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're a great local family and they're just not in the know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm going and doing what I can to basically expose the truth and to say, just check yours, check the the vaccines that you are giving, check the vials, check the product inserts, and and see what the vaccines are.
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  SPEAKER_01: The there's also the USDA, uh the FDA has a list um of you know the vaccines um with their approval forms and whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_01: And these are, as I'll go into some of these are conditionally approved.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's like the COVID vaccine being approved for like emergency use only.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a similar situation in animals when they get a conditional approval.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so so I don't have access to all the data, is what that means.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, which it makes piecing this, that's why it took me so long to piece all this together, because it's not just out in the open that, oh, and here's the research studies that we did, and and here's the raw data.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can punch the numbers yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't have access to any of that to verify.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this what I'm gonna present, what I'm presenting to you is just things I've pieced together.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and like you said, we don't know the timing of when he gave those vaccines, you know, that Missouri lobbyist.
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  SPEAKER_01: We just know that he is saying that he did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's possible, I'll throw this in there as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's possible that his cattle might be part of a trial, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: A trial for these um for the new mRNA vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_01: If they are part of a trial, right, if his cattle, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say, best case scenario, he's telling the truth and they're part of a trial, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meat from those cows won't end up in the grocery store.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if you remember RBGH, right, recombinant bovine growth hormone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, for the viewers who don't know, that was the first genetically engineered hormone introduced in our food supply.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was given to cows to increase their milk supply.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's for economic purposes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the FDA allowed the meat, uh, the milk and then later the meat from those experimental animals to be sold to the public without a label.
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  SPEAKER_01: So for what I can piece together for about eight years, some of us drank that experimental milk and meat without knowing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: The GAO actually, a government accountability office actually confirmed that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, they said, and I quote, we found that food products from the RBGH treated animals were commercially processed and sold to consumers without any labeling regarding their origin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they went on to say that they believe the public should have the right to know which food products have been produced from animals being tested with investigational drugs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Consequently, we disagree with FDA on this point.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um, so that's in the documents.
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  SPEAKER_01: We know that the FDA has allowed experimental milk and meat to be um sold on the market for human consumption without it being labeled.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it is possible that this is a this is not a widespread um inoculation uh uh in the industrial food supply with of the cattle with this mRNA injection.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could be he's part of a trial, all right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, but moving on from that, another statement that came out was from the Washington Cattlemen's Association.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're saying that there's no current mRNA vaccines licensed for use in beef cattle in the US, um, which doesn't mean that there can't be any conditionally licensed, right?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's the wordplay.
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  SPEAKER_01: This that's the difference between licensed and conditionally licensed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Conditionally licensed, as I said, would be for like equivalent of like an emergency use.
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  SPEAKER_01: They also go on to say that mRNA vaccine technology has been around for decades and is not an experimental method.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then they say research on mRNA vaccines in livestock has been going on for decades, which indicates that there will at some point be mRNA vaccines for cattle.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then they said, but not until there has been sufficient research, after they just said that it's been researched for decades and it's not an experimental method anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kind of contradictory in their own statement.
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  SPEAKER_01: But but they are actually stating that that's that that you know this is underway, but it's not being used yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: So who is actually telling the truth?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, when I want to know who's telling the truth, I follow the money.
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  SPEAKER_01: So who funds the National Cattlemen Beef Association?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right on their website, you can find this information.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of the funders is Merck, and Merck has developed um NRNA, M MRNA technology um for vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's use pork as an example.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now it's not just in cows, we're talking about now we're talking about pork.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, from what I can tell, since about 2018, at least some industrial pork producers have been using what's called a customizable mRNA-based vaccine on their herds.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's two two pieces of evidence that lead me to this conclusion.
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  SPEAKER_01: The first is a YouTube video of Joe Roder, who um was the director of technical services for Merck Animal Health.
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  SPEAKER_01: At the 2018 World Pork Expo, he is on video saying that they launched a new technology and it's called Sequivity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Using this sequivity technology, he said that they're creating customized vaccines for swine producers and veterinarians.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, that basically what they do is they collect a pathogen that's affecting a herd, they send it to a lab to identify it.
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  SPEAKER_01: The gene is sequenced for that pathogen or multiple pathogens.
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  SPEAKER_01: They then make a synthetic version of the gene.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the RNA.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that is synthesized.
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  SPEAKER_01: The RNA particles are released from the incubated production cells and they're harvested and formulated into these customizable vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_01: He said then the RNA, once injected into the animal or given to the animal, provides instructions to the immune system to translate the sequence into proteins, which acts as the antigen to elicit an immune response.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we've heard this before, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: This should sound familiar to people with COVID.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that sometimes there are actually, he said, many strains causing the problems.
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  SPEAKER_01: So sometimes these customizable vaccines will have multiple strains of genetic information contained within them.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was touting that the speed at which they could do this, they could create customizable vaccines in as little as eight weeks, where a traditional vaccine would take typically about six months, you know, depending on the vaccine.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he was saying that this technology will give them the ability to release, for instance, updated a flu vaccine per given region in the US, right, based on the strain that you're seeing in the region of the US, and they could do this and give these vaccines every six months to the to the pigs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's on video with him saying that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um Merck actually, by the way, you know, CD, I I can't help but as you're going through this, that little segment, it's it's fascinating to me that one of the um you know, one of the the uh theme thematically the industrial agriculture complex has been all about homogenization and um and and streamlining of genetics.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: In other words, all the the the pigs are all uh from the same genetics, the corn is all from the same genetics, the feed is all the same genetics, and and and and this narrowing, narrowing of the genetic base has been thematically uh you know an objective within mainline agriculture for a long, long time.
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  SPEAKER_00: The narrowing of the genetic base.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's happening to me is as you're going through this.
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  SPEAKER_00: is is reading these these people who have who have promoted narrowing the genetic base of of the you know of the product dealing with the diversifying genetic base uh of the pro uh of the disease it's uh i isn't that a an interesting uh uh anomaly that that the whole thrust has been to narrow the genetic base of of everything that we produce and nature nature is actually responding with a widening genetic base pushback that just fascinates me that's an excellent point joel you know and and that goes to the whole point of needing you know you need that balance you and nature will always win in the end nature's gonna win this one too you know uh but uh yeah I love that point um yeah and they're saying Joel they're actually saying um on Merck's um animal health website they're saying they're harnessing this RNA particle technology so by the way they're starting to change the name instead of like you know mRNA vaccines one of the name changes is now RNA particle technology so they're gonna harness this technology to create customized prescription vaccines against things like strains of influenza A virus um PCV um rotavirus and quote beyond right so that so this isn't just oh we came out we're doing the flu virus using this sequivity technology they're they're trying to go um and address all of these supposed strains that have as you so eloquently pointed out are are being created in large part because we are homogenizing the animals you know um yeah and and here's here's the and this the second piece of information that lets me know that this is happening is that there is a study published and I will include all the links for this information in the show description so you can read it for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a study published in April of 2021 it's titled Novel Vaccine Technologies in veterinary medicine a herald to human medicine vaccines okay so what they're saying is that they've in this article is they've piggybacked off of you know human vaccines and now they're launching all of these vaccines for livestock in that um research paper on page nine they talk about sequivity all right they talk about this RNA particle technology and what they're doing to make these personalized um vaccine prescriptions so this is a documented um RNA technology that does exist and from what I can tell they've launched it in 2018 at that World Pork Expo so that means this technology has possibly been used in the pork industry since 2018 and we just didn't know about it.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: All right now here's an even scarier um follow-up to that you know how I said these are personalized vaccines right so they're getting samples from a farm for instance in a certain area and they're personalizing that that vaccine whether it's one pathogen or a combination of pathogens that's affecting that herd I don't actually think each personalized vaccine is being safety tested or approved by the FDA all right I think Merck was kind of given a blanket um some type of approval it could have been a conditional approval um and actually um ZOTIS I believe that's how it's pronounced Z-O-E-T-I-S ZOTIS which is the largest producer of veterinary drugs and vaccines they helped develop the mRNA COVID vaccine for animals that was um that was given to animals in the zoos across the country well it's actually um a subsidiary of Pfizer okay so Pfizer Animal Health goes by the name ZOTIS and Pfizer it's really hard now to find anything about mRNA vaccines that they're working on for obvious reasons, right?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: But they they're very hush hush but they did publish a statement regarding Merck's technology of Sequivity.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: And this is what um ZOTI said Sequivity has safety and efficacy studies based on the platform with a historical initial isolate not likely the isolate the customers would be requesting in their product all right meaning exactly what I said I don't think each one of these vaccines that they customize is being actually safety tested.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So so it's kind of like you know a kid in a candy store right yeah yeah it's like it's it's like it's like saying um uh telling telling your child uh you can you can go to the candy rack and pick whatever candy you want as opposed to saying you can all you can only pick um you know uh um Reese's pieces today.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's just a buffet for them.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: So um so like like I said this has been going on since probably two since 2008 and I don't know what the safety testing is but it seems very minimal if any.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now Sequivity was not actually the first mRNA vaccine in livestock right so this goes back before 2018.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: So let me quickly run you through um a timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: From what I can tell the very first RNA-based livestock vaccine was for um the pig or swine influenza H3N2 it was an RNA shot it was conditionally licensed in 2012 all right so since 2012 there has been a conditionally licensed um RNA shot for pigs for influenza it was developed by Harris vaccines according to the website Harris vaccines um received USDA conditional licenses for um RNA vaccines or are what they're calling RNA particle technology platforms including the following vaccines there was an RNA vaccine for rotavirus C that was given conditional license in January 2013 there was also a porcene epidemic diarrhea RNA vaccine that was given conditional license in June 2014 and then there was also a conditional license given for avian or bird influenza mRNA shot and that was in September of 2015.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Now from what I can tell again the information is pretty pretty scarce but full licensure does not seem to have been granted but it does seem that the conditional license remains in place right this is like like I said like the emergency use authorization for the COVID-19 injection so if the conditional license remains in place the implication is they can still be using these mRNA injections all right now in that um in that same year in 2015 Harris vaccine was acquired by Merck Animal Health.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right so now we're back to Merck again who's who's bought up these mRNA vaccines um and denying that they're being used now in the cattle and another um another thought Chick-fil-A they have made a commitment I think um with it within a I mean very shortly here that all of their chickens are going to be antibiotic free and you know I I've been wondering about that um how can you grow chickens in such a fecal particulate horrible place and eliminate I mean an antibiotics and factory farming you know are are sisters they they've gone together.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean you you could not have you couldn't have factory farming without antibiotics and so of course you know consumers have started pushing back on antibiotics they've made super bugs and um you may not already know the answer to this is the way that places like Chick-fil-A are getting away with quote unquote antibiotic free chicken is with mRNA vaccines instead.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: So now they can go to the public and say you know those old nasty antibiotics you used to not like man we're not using any of them we are true blue we've come to the altar you know we've been saved and we're not uh using uh antibiotics anymore what we are using is mRNA vaccines is that where we are yes Joel I'm so glad you brought that up yes that is actually what has happened so before we continue with the timeline let's pause there because this is critical for everyone to understand how our food system works.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: So exactly what you've asked is the question I asked myself during research why?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Why are we having this recent surge in the vaccines including the the development and funding for mRNA vaccines right we have massive funding underway including Gates funding um you and you know government funding to develop all these mRNA vaccines not only in livestock and humans and in companion animals so why um I will tell you there um so first let me tell you how much money is involved here there's new government and injury in industry funded studies underway many of them to develop these mRNA vaccines for livestock humans and companions companion pets part of the massive expansion of the animal vaccine industry is projected to be worth$26 billion by 2030.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay that's the expansion part$26 billion by 2030.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now this is what I found in a 2018 article in veterinary research this is what the author said vaccines and other alternative products can help minimize the need for antibiotics by preventing and controlling infectious diseases in animal populations and are central to the future success of animal agriculture.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay according to the a 2016 Bloomberg report industry leaders like Alanco, Eli Lilly, Merck Animal Health, Zodis, they began shifting billions of dollars of research investments from antibiotics to vaccines in advance of FDA's 2017 regulatory measures.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: The experts are predicting that they had predicted that the new FDA regulations would cause the market to shift away from antibiotics and cause the vaccine market to explode.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: So FDA came in because of you know because of antibiotic resistance and consumer pushback on the antibiotics FDA came in and said okay we're making new regulatory measures to prevent or at least dramatically reduce the use of antibiotics in livestock.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: They finalized those guidelines in fact in 2021 but of course these um the ag companies the pharmaceutical companies got wind of it and so what they did was they started to shift their um research investments away from antibiotics to the vaccines all right um major there's actually in 2022 there's a report showing that other major pharmaceutical companies um including um Zotis and Pfizer and others that they had be already um were determined to be heavily quote heavily invested in the animal vaccine industry according to a veterinarian who runs Merck's technical services for cattle poultry and swine they actually told Bloomberg in a report quote the future of our company is heavily grounded in vaccine development all right and even uh this is this is my my last quote the UK's Department for International Development they have actually partnered with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation um this was back in 2018 they partnered to fund livestock vaccines around the world the partnership included a$40 million grant to develop new livestock vaccines the foundation um said that they're gonna continue to focus on shifting livestock proceed producers from using antibiotics to using vaccines wow uh cena you know uh yeah we're out of time we need to we we need to kind of put tie a knot in this string here um and and and come back and re and and let's just go on from here uh for the for the next one do you have a a better a better place to tie off our knot here and and then and then come back come come back for our next uh episode this is that this is a you know it reminds me cena of the um of the years that uh the livestock industry um said that they no longer used subtherapeutic antibiotics so you know for years the industry s used antibiotics as a growth stimulant that you you you you get you get faster growth with antibiotics and um and and so they used subtherapeutic meaning that you that every everything everything got whether it was sick or not got antibiotics well then uh the pushback was so severe that they began saying that the company started saying well we don't use subtherapeutic antibiotics we only use them therapeutically like if an animal gets sick then we use it but the fact was that the threshold of sickness was so low that they just continued to use subtherapeutics anyway it was it was a perfect example of you know of clever speak uh word crafting um and so uh so you know the the nuance between subtherapeutic and therapeutic is pretty is pretty uh narrow there's not much nuance between the two anyway so here we are now uh with the pushback on antibiotics and here we have a new um a new uh a substitute the mRNA and um and you know if if this isn't a perfect example of uh of the continuing um you know uh whatever devil devil's brew from the industry I don't know what is yeah that you're you hit it on the head there Joel um when so let me sum up so far it appears that there are there are at least mRNA injections available to it in the pork industry so we know that right it's it's available in the pork industry it's been available since 2018 it's um and and we and I believe it's available with with the cattle we know that they've been researching this for well over a decade um we know that it's coming and we know that one of the main reasons it is coming and at this warp speed it seems is because like you said they're trying to correct an another industrial problem that they created which was this overuse of antibiotics.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: So now we're going to swing away from the antibiotics and go toward overuse of vaccines um in the next episode let's continue on with the timeline so you can see more of what's been developed and we will go into as well um the the aftermath right what are what are the unintended consequences of this and does it transmit to humans?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds great seeing thanks for thanks for uh uh sleuthing this out for us thank you all for joining us on an up another episode of Beyond Labels uh we do care about your feedback we see what it is and this is uh uh an example of trying to respond uh to those kind of concerns that we hear from you thank you for joining us and we'll pick this up for episode two next week