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Feminist HORRIFIED to find men on the left are still men · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 2: Subway Takes, which is a channel, I think, on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: a feminist NGO that is Rosebud Reads. And what they
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  Speaker 2: do is they biweekly go to a woman's correctional facility
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  Speaker 2: have been charged. It just has women being held pending trial.
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  Speaker 2: And they read with those women and they probably create
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  Speaker 2: terrible problems. terrible poetry with those women because it's like
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  Speaker 2: a reading, writing thing. And the women who are volunteering
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  Speaker 2: at this endeavor, Rosebud Reads, I think it's what it's called,
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  Speaker 2: say that they want to abolish women's prisons or women's
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  Speaker 2: incarceration because something, something patriarchy. So regardless of what a
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  Speaker 2: woman does, you know, murders children, murders men. Mm-hmm. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Whatever. Doesn't matter. She gets free do-overs. There
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  Speaker 2: is no go to jail, go directly to jail square
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  Speaker 2: for women anymore in society. And that's what they're advocating.
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  Speaker 2: So I figured we could look at that video. But,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the main attraction is yet another medium feminist
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  Speaker 2: discovering that men.
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  Speaker 3: She's probably not medium. She's probably large. But I know
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  Speaker 3: what you mean. Yes. She's blogging on medium. She's probably supersized.
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  Speaker 3: But go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Well, maybe not even mid midway. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so we have this this feminist who went into spaces
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  Speaker 2: for men on the left and discovered that there are
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  Speaker 2: still men, that left men are still men. And they
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  Speaker 2: have some frustrations, which I'm really actually not shocked at
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  Speaker 2: at all. They have some frustrations with women and they
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  Speaker 2: express those frustrations. And she was horrified to find out
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  Speaker 2: that men on the left have an opinion about women
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  Speaker 2: and it's not necessarily good. I'm like, yeah, you guys,
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  Speaker 2: of all the political positions, you guys are getting it
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  Speaker 2: the worst from women. And part of it is because
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  Speaker 2: you give women infinite do-overs. Stop doing that. Okay? Of
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  Speaker 2: all the groups of men currently in the modern political landscape,
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  Speaker 2: men on the left, you guys need to hold your
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  Speaker 2: women to some kind of account. And I don't even
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  Speaker 2: think that... Well, we'll get into it. Shall I do
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  Speaker 2: into the desert of the real, otherwise known as feminist... Academia? Academia, yes. Oh, God,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good point. Yeah, that's the word. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not academic.
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  Speaker 3: Don't talk faster than you can think, Allison. You'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right. All right, yeah, okay. But that's impossible for me.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so... my travels into feminist academia to find
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  Speaker 2: the source of the mythical patriarchy that they constantly yap about.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, some interesting findings. One, for example, is that
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  Speaker 2: it's just based on a feeling, right? It was, they
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  Speaker 2: basically said, yeah, we have this feeling of resentment. How
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  Speaker 2: do we justify this feeling? How do we prove this
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  Speaker 2: feeling is true? Oh, we don't need to prove it.
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  Speaker 2: We just need to cherry pick things to blame men for.
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  Speaker 2: And that's it. It's like they said, a feeling, then
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  Speaker 2: the facts fitted to the feeling, and then the advocacy
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  Speaker 2: based on facts fitted to the feeling. So they never
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  Speaker 2: had any proof, guys. It was all just a resentment
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  Speaker 2: from the most privileged group of people in human history.
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  Speaker 2: Princess felt a slight twinge of discomfort because she was
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  Speaker 2: bored and she invented patriarchy to explain it. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into this article. Speaking of princesses.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So the article is from Medium.com. It is a blog,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, from a channel or the account is called
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  Speaker 3: Linda Carroll, the author. And the title is The Hate
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  Speaker 3: and Anger in a Left-Wing Men's Chat Stunned Me. If
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  Speaker 3: you think anti-feminism is a far-right issue, you're dead wrong.
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  Speaker 3: By Linda Carroll. Mm-hmm. All right, let's see how far
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  Speaker 3: we get. Every now and then, a man's mind is
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  Speaker 3: stretched by a new idea or sensation and never shrinks
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  Speaker 3: back to its former dimensions. Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote that
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  Speaker 3: in The Atlantic Monthly in 1858. I always thought of
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  Speaker 3: that as a beautiful thing. Like, once you see something,
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  Speaker 3: you can never unsee it. And what a truly profound
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  Speaker 3: concept that is, or at least it seemed it to me.
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  Speaker 3: I never thought of it as a container for pain,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't even know why I didn't. But I
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  Speaker 3: do now. Funny how revelation sometimes starts so innocently. I was...
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  Speaker 3: I know, she's writing. She's a writer, Allison. They gotta write.
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  Speaker 3: I was googling.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a writer. This is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she's an aspiring writer. Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. It's just hitting a button somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, but, like, if this is, like, the quality
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  Speaker 3: of writing basically everywhere, how is it not just what
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  Speaker 3: writing is now? No. I mean, this is the.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying, like, people like T.S. Eliot don't exist anymore, Allison. This... No.
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  Speaker 3: Now we have.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Linda Carroll.
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  Speaker 1: That's... No.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we are. This is where we are at now.
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  Speaker 3: People are not even reading at sixth grade level getting
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  Speaker 3: out of college, so... When they write this stuff, this
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  Speaker 3: is probably pretty high end by today's standards, unfortunately, like
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  Speaker 3: it or not. But anyway, yeah, everybody that's on Medium
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  Speaker 3: is trying to be a writer. Everyone in journalism is
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  Speaker 3: trying to be a writer. Everybody in academia wants to
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  Speaker 3: be a writer, or at least all the women do.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, all right. Funny how revelation sometimes starts so innocently.
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  Speaker 3: I was googling a feminist topic I'm writing about when
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  Speaker 3: I saw a link to a group that calls themselves
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  Speaker 3: left-wing advocates for young men. Oh, I thought, what's this?
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  Speaker 3: So I clicked, thinking I was getting a peek into
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  Speaker 3: the polar opposite of manosphere rhetoric. Well, color me stupid
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  Speaker 3: or gullible or naive or something. I innocently thought, well...
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  Speaker 3: The economy sucks and we're all struggling and maybe I'd
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  Speaker 3: see what some left-leaning men had to say about women's
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  Speaker 3: issues because maybe it would be a refreshing change from
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  Speaker 3: the far-right rhetoric I keep seeing way too much of. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute. I know I haven't finished this first
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  Speaker 3: section yet, but let me just get this straight. She
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  Speaker 3: saw a link to a group that called themselves Left-Wing
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  Speaker 3: Advocates for Young Men and then immediately said, I was
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  Speaker 3: expecting them to be talking about women's issues. As you do.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Um....
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  Speaker 3: I can't tell you how wrong I was to believe
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  Speaker 3: anti-feminism was far-right rhetoric. Apparently not. But here, let me
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  Speaker 3: just show you. Without links, because those guys can get
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  Speaker 3: their clicks somewhere else. Okay, so now she's going to
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  Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about it. All right, well,
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  Speaker 3: let's get into it. Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. She goes to a
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  Speaker 2: group that's advocating for young men and says, where's the feminism?
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  Speaker 3: Why aren't you talking about women? Well, no, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: talking about women. Well, yeah, it needs to be from
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  Speaker 3: a feminist perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it makes a sort of sense. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at it from the perspective of my
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  Speaker 2: analysis of feminist academia and the history of feminist academia,
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  Speaker 2: the thing that men are supposed to advocate for, for
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  Speaker 2: their own benefit, is the renunciation of being a man.
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  Speaker 2: Because when they renunciate being a man, they no longer
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  Speaker 2: have the things that patriarchy hurts them with because they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to be a man. So if you're advocating for
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  Speaker 2: young men, what you should be advocating for– and this
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  Speaker 2: is based on the psychology of men and masculinities field,
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  Speaker 2: which itself is based on feminist conjecture– When you advocate
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  Speaker 2: for young men, what you should be advocating for them
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  Speaker 2: to do is to renunciate their masculinity and try not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have you ever tried not being a man, basically.
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  Speaker 2: And so she's expecting them to go to this left-wing
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  Speaker 2: advocates for young men and see them say, have you
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  Speaker 2: tried not being a young man? See if that fixes things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And she's not seeing it, so she's hugely surprised or horrified.
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  Speaker 2: that left-wing advocates for young men might actually advocate for
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  Speaker 2: problems that young men face.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, let's hear what she has to say. Let's
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  Speaker 2: hear about all the exhibit of horrors that she went
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  Speaker 2: through in this, I guess, fun house mirror.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This mirror, this house of fun house and strange things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: The whole mess, I'm just going to, so here's her
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  Speaker 3: talking about what they wrote. The whole mess started out
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  Speaker 3: so innocently. Some guy posted to say he's a left-leaning
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  Speaker 3: man in America and all the anti-feminist rhetoric he keeps
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  Speaker 3: hearing online seems to have nothing to do with the
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  Speaker 3: actual tenets of feminism and more to do with angry
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  Speaker 3: men who can't get a date. LOL, she put the
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  Speaker 3: LOL in. So he asked if... Wait, wait, wait. Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Angry men that can't get a date.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Because supposedly becoming feminist was going to make
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  Speaker 2: that easier for men, right? And it has in fact
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  Speaker 2: made it substantially harder. So, you know, like feminists were like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: marriage will be companionate and won't at all reflect what
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  Speaker 2: income you have. It will no longer be a mercenary
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  Speaker 2: thing where women choose you based on how much you make.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be about you as a person and
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  Speaker 2: your soul. And what happened? Now the median man gets
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  Speaker 2: married at like 45%, whereas for 100 years prior to
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  Speaker 2: the 1970s, he would get married at like 80%. So
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  Speaker 2: what has happened is women's ask for income has increased exponentially.
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  Speaker 2: So it starts to feel like the whole feminist project
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  Speaker 2: is less about removing the expectations on men in terms
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  Speaker 2: of income and more about refusing to credit men for
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  Speaker 2: everything and calling them earning or providing for women oppression
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  Speaker 2: and then asking for five times more of it. I
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  Speaker 2: think men have a good reason to be sort of pissed.
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  Speaker 2: Because if they're going to be feminists, shouldn't being a
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  Speaker 2: feminist at least give them an advantage in the dating landscape?
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't. It gives them a penalty. Feminist women despise
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  Speaker 2: feminist men. So feminist men are like, well, what's going
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  Speaker 2: on here? At the very least, shouldn't this make me
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  Speaker 2: slightly more attractive to you? And the feminist women are like, no,
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  Speaker 2: earn 2.3 times more and then we'll talk. No, you
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  Speaker 2: just have to earn more. As a feminist man, you
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  Speaker 2: have to earn more and you have to not complain
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  Speaker 2: about it. Your virtues are actually the virtues of shouting
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  Speaker 2: up and not pointing out that women's... It's not hypergamy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm calling it hyperbolegamy. Hyperbolegamy. Because it's increasing... It's actually,
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  Speaker 2: it's increasing hyperbolically what's happening with women's ask, right? They
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  Speaker 2: were like, well, this, you know, if I'm a feminist
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  Speaker 2: and we want to have a feminist society, we've got
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  Speaker 2: to reproduce on some level. And these feminist women are like, no,
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  Speaker 2: your feminism means that as a man, you shut up
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  Speaker 2: about our ridiculous level of material ask of men. I
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  Speaker 2: deserve my bag, your bag, society's bag, future generations' bag,
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  Speaker 2: the bag of sweatshop workers in China. I deserve the
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  Speaker 2: bag of the whole world. And you can't judge me
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  Speaker 2: because I'm a woman and you're a feminist man. That's
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  Speaker 2: what you got by being a feminist man. You got
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  Speaker 2: the right to shut the fuck up and allow women to...
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  Speaker 2: exponentially increase their material and status-seeking behavior.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think men on the left are wising up.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be a path out of that. Well, hold on, Allison.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. Allow me to clarify the paragraph, because I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure that you understood what this woman was writing.
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  Speaker 3: She was saying there was a man... A man.
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  Speaker 3: A left-leaning man posted that he, what he, okay, let
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  Speaker 3: me read it again. A left-leaning man in America, he
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  Speaker 3: posted to say that all the anti-feminist rhetoric that he
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  Speaker 3: keeps hearing online seems to have nothing to do with
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  Speaker 3: the actual tenets of feminism and more to do with
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  Speaker 3: angry men who can't get a date. So you have
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  Speaker 3: a left-leaning man that is shaming and attacking other men
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  Speaker 3: who don't like feminism. And he's saying, look at those losers.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, okay? So it's a left-leaning man
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  Speaker 3: attacking what he perceives, I assume, as like a far-right
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  Speaker 3: reaction to feminism. Yeah, basically.
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  Speaker 2: I'm attacking his reproach. He's probably a boomer who grew
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  Speaker 2: up at a time period where women's hyperbolegomy, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to call it that. I'm not calling it hyperbole. Hypergamy,
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  Speaker 2: because hypergamy is just wanting someone taller than you with
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  Speaker 2: a square jaw who can lift more. That's like the
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  Speaker 2: average man compared to the average woman. Hyperbolegomy is wanting
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  Speaker 2: exponentially more. Wanting a man who occupies a position of
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  Speaker 2: the top 10%, which is literally mathematically impossible for every
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  Speaker 2: man to get into the top 10%. That's hyperbolegomy. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing satisfies it except the end of civilization, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: or genocide and enslavement. Incidentally, I'm starting to see where
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  Speaker 2: those things come from. But regardless, so it is this
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  Speaker 2: man that I'm calling out, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: His his statement, probably a boomer. So he grew up
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  Speaker 2: in an era when left women's. hypergamy, I'll use that,
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  Speaker 2: was at least a little bit more constrained and he
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  Speaker 2: had a chance. And now left men are in an
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  Speaker 2: era where only the top 1% will do, especially for
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  Speaker 2: left women. And if they're smart, they can see that.
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  Speaker 2: They can see in their communities, there's no marriages, there's
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  Speaker 2: not even cohabitation and no children. And then in conservative communities,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit better. It's not good enough, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a bit better. And they can see that. And I've
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  Speaker 2: heard on our channel, like one left dude saying, hey, well,
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  Speaker 2: if we don't reproduce, then our ideas die. Yes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: probably some conservatives who would be like, well, don't don't
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  Speaker 2: don't interrupt them while they're making a mistake. But yes.
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  Speaker 2: Your ideas die. And I would suggest if the left
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  Speaker 2: women on the left aren't selecting you based on your
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  Speaker 2: adherence to your ideas or your left ideals. They don't
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  Speaker 2: have those ideals. They're up to something completely different. They're
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  Speaker 2: playing a completely different game than you, women on the left.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like communist women, women on the far left, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got the average liberal woman who wants
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  Speaker 2: a man who makes like 2.3 times more than a
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  Speaker 2: conservative man makes. Once you get to the commies, they
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  Speaker 2: want multimillionaires. Like, isn't that fascinating that communist women... They
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  Speaker 2: won't marry at the same rate as conservative women unless
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  Speaker 2: they have... multimillionaires. How does that work? How do you
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  Speaker 2: justify that with your communism? How do you square it?
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  Speaker 2: I think these things are doing something very different in
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the woman's mind than they are doing in the man's mind,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: is what I'm getting at. All right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I just want to point out the irony of This
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: guy being in a group that is supposedly advocating for
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: men and the one post he makes is attacking men
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: who disagree with the, I guess, their core tenets. So
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: they're not actually advocates for men. And I'm just saying,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: you can go on Reddit or wherever this is. I'm
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: assuming it's Reddit, but it might not be because she
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't specify. And you can say, we're left-wing advocates for men.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But if I see a post that says, why are
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: these men such pieces of shit? Because they don't agree
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: with feminism. Well, guess what? I don't care what you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: call yourself. You're not a men's advocate. Full stop. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: don't care what you call yourself. If you call yourself
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: a thing, you have to live up to something. If
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you call yourself a thing, you have to live up
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to something. OK, yeah, 100 percent.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But this is a post presumably by someone potentially outside
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the community.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I don't know. OK, so.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So he so he asked if any left leaning men
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: had any valid complaints. So he's basically challenging the left
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: wing men to see if they have any valid complaints
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: against feminism. And she continues, this is a legit question,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: he clarified. He wasn't trying to stir the pot, he said.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: He just wanted to know if any left-leaning men can
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: actually come up with anything wrong with the concept of
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: feminism because he's sure not seeing anything legit coming from
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the right side of the political spectrum. Curious to see responses,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I dived in. I should have known better. I should
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: have backed out of the room right there. Having read
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: what I read, I know why I thought it would
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: be different. Well, I don't know why I thought it
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: would be different. The first reply... was from a man
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: who said the problem with feminism is the benevolent sexism
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: of it. So it's still women most affected. Feminism exists,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: women most affected. Nice. Nice leftist view there. He said
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: take any statistic like men getting longer prison sentences than
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: women or that men perpetrate violence more than women and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: while they're true, there are underlying social issues we should
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: be addressing but feminists just give lip service to men's
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: issues because they'd rather make it about female oppression. Feminism,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: he said, is intellectually lazy. It just focuses on women
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: as victims.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, learn. Learn, my dude. You are part of
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the I hate men group, party, ideology. And 100%, he's right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he calls it benevolent sexism or what,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: we have to take her word for it. Because she
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: might be saying, oh, he used, this is what he meant,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: benevolent sexism. But his point is that feminism does not
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: treat men's issues as things that have worth in and
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of themselves. They treat them as inconvenient data points. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I would like to add that this is entirely consistent
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: with a group of women who has absolutely no real
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: connection to any kind of ethical system or standard. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: their actual motivation is purely social climbing. They just want
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to be on top of the hill. That's it. They
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: want money and they want status. That's what feminist women want.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And they want a system that camouflages and excuses their
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: bare-faced greed, pride, and vanity. And that's it. This is
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: perfectly consistent with that. What do men's issues represent? They
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: represent equity. the existence, the interiority of a man, which
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: makes them have to contend with men as people rather
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: than see men as positions that they can occupy in
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the social ladder. They don't want to see men as people.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: They just want to see them as positions that they
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: can occupy. That's feminism. And they delegitimate the man in them.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They have all kinds of words for rendering that man
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: silenced and invisible and and What's the right word for it?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Illegitimate as a category of beeling so a man occupies
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a position. Well, well, how did he get in that position?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: patriarchy male privilege Mansplaining the old boys Network You see
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that's how they justify why that position is owed to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: them why they deserve his bag and their bag and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: everybody's bag and Because it's all positional thinking. It's all
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: thinking within the relational web. But in this case, it's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: not about relationships and emotions and caring about people, which
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the relational web can be about. It's about pure position.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Who is where relative to the epicenter of status? And
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: how do I get up the ziggurat? That's what these
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: feminist women are about. That is their motive. They don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: even care about– they do not care about women anymore.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And I know they don't because every time they've had
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to choose between their mythology of status-seeking that justifies their
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: status-seeking and actually helping women, guess what they choose? 100%.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Their tool for seeking status and wealth. Right? They don't
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: give a crap about other women. Except insofar as it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: gives them attention and resources and status.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Okay? So men on the left, you need to realize
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: what feminist women are. And you can 100% see it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: They can't escape it. They can't escape this conclusion. Because
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: if feminism was about an external standard and a virtue
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to uphold or some kind of morality to uphold, feminist
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: men wouldn't have a deficit in the dating landscape that
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: they do, like the severest deficit of all ideologies. Because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: feminist women would want them. Because they share the ideology.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: That's not what it's about. Feminism is about disguising naked
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: greed and vanity. And making it verboten to call women
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: out for it. Okay, let's keep going.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I got a super chow I gotta read out. From Darkikimora,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: who gives us $ 30. So thank you, Darkikimora.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Very.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Very nice there. Amazing. And he says, if Karen says
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that she's a little bit sexist because she feels that
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: psychological bias where she sees a woman being attacked in
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: a movie instead of a man and feels an ick feeling,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: does that mean I am more red pill than Karen?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Because after spending nine months arguing with feminists on Reddit,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the biological protect the woman urge has flipped for me.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: And now images of female faces being beaten and suffering
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: actually makes me smile and feel good. And I self-identify
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: as an unconscious misogynist now. I keep asking feminists if
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: they believe the average man is a misogynist. What greater
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: level of misandrist trauma did they have to experience first
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to become that way? And they never give me an answer. Okay,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: there's a lot in that, but all I'll say is
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: feminist logic dictates that men cannot experience misandry and that
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that is a myth. That's what feminist logic says. Um,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and you might have to do a little bit of
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: soul searching cause I don't think it's healthy to take
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: pleasure in other people's suffering regardless of, uh, whatever. That's,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: that's just me personally. So.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't, don't take pleasure in suffering. Just extend compassion
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to men.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Um, cause it, the, the idea is that we care,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: we care about men as much as we care about women.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And we blame women as much as we blame men.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: That would be good. I mean, it's something to aim for.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I know that, you know, there's biological reasons why it
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: might be difficult to achieve. But on the other hand,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: not doing it is leading us to extinction as a species.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's like that's our next evolutionary leap, shall
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: we say. All right, let's read some more. Got to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: get through this.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Back to the article. So, you know, I summarize because
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: his comment was easily 600 words. Sometimes people are so
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: wrong you need a paragraph to correct every sentence. First
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: of all, I wanted to scream, dude.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, what? You just contradicted yourself. This woman.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You summarized it because you need a paragraph to correct
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: every sentence?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I think she means a paragraph per sentence. I think
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that's what she means.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. So every one of his sentences requires
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a paragraph to correct.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: A paragraph from her, yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: But she's not doing the labor, Brian. Yeah. Okay, now
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: everybody needs to sit and imagine she's done this labor
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: of correcting every sentence with a paragraph.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Don't hate anybody, Beanism is Lies. You shouldn't hate anybody.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: You should just hate behaviors and ideas. Okay, I'm sorry,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, like, right here, this is a behavior.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I summarize because his comment was easily 600 words. All right,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: this is why I say because. about the use of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the term benevolent sexism. It's probably her reading into what
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: he said. I think I know what actual Reddit community
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: that this probably came from. And the left-wing male advocates
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: is my guess. And I have lurked there or commented there.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And it's quite likely that they didn't mention benevolent sexism.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: They just went right to the throat of men's issues.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So I would say that that's likely her gloss that
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: she's saying, Oh, this guy is talking about benevolent sexism,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: which means that women aren't responsible for it. It's actually men.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So we're blameless. Well, she continues to the woman card.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: She continues and says, first of all, I wanted to scream, dude,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that's not what benevolent sexism means. Look it up for cripes. Okay.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I don't hold up a blueberry muffin and say, look, y'all,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I'm having toast for breakfast. Words mean things for a reason.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: So if he didn't say benevolent sexism, then she was...
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And it's possible that she was basically just putting words
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: in his mouth and then addressing that, you know, instead
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: of addressing what he said directly. But it sounds like
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: she saw an opportunity to school somebody who used the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: term benevolent sexism.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Incorrectly. Don't use their terms, guys.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, don't... Leftist men's advocates are going to be
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: using their terms. All right, so benevolent sexism isn't a
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: thing women do. It's a thing men do. Look it up.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: There it is. No, that's not correct. Well, that's what
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: she's saying, that categorically, this is going back to my
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: response to Dark Kikimora, feminist logic dictates men cannot be
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: victims of sexism. Women cannot be perpetrators of sexism of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: any kind, anytime, anywhere against the opposite sex. So when
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: he said benevolent sexism, which he was attributing to feminists,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: she is like, no, that's impossible because we have defined
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: it as something that only men can do to women. Therefore,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you're wrong. So now this is their word games. This
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: is what's going on. Yep.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And fundamentally benevolent sexism, which is a retarded phrase, they
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: mean chivalry. And actually, if you read the benevolent sexism inventory,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they mean men who supplicate to women, really. Um, and, uh,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: women are fully capable of holding, I think ambivalent sexism
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: is the, is the term they're fully capable of holding
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: these attitudes. I would call them anti-male attitudes. So, I mean,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: don't use benevolent sexism because it puts the honest back
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: on men. And yes, I know, uh, leftist men use
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: their vocabulary, um, but I would encourage them to stop
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: using their vocabulary because you'll notice that everything terminates in
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: being your fault, right? And everything terminates in blamelessness for women.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So you can never actually have a conversation about anything,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: including the bare fact that leftist women were guarding a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: man having leftist ideas to be a detriment in the,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like giving him a penalty is going to mean that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: leftism dies. Well, also, we take a step back and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: feminist women having no, women on the left generally having
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: absolutely no sense of responsibility of continuing the society that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: gave them rights means that women's rights are an evolutionary
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: dead end. But these are the conversations we're not allowed
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to have. We just need to shut up and allow
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: women on the left and conservative women who trail them
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: to have their standards, even if those standards are going
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to lead to the extinction of the human race. All right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: We can't question them. You have to allow them. I'm
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: not talking about forced marriage here, but can we shame them?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Can we do a bit of social censure? Can we
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: try to correct the attitudes that lead to women engaging
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: in this hyperbolegomy? Can we do that? Can we do that?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Can we even point to this and say, hey, this
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: is not functional. Women's standards are not functional. When women
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: are basically extorting Their standards are basically extorting the future
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of Western civilization and now possibly the future of our species. Maybe,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: and the only actual way that we satisfy those standards is, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, the world can't. Like, we literally can't. The
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: world cannot satisfy the standards that women are holding men to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, eventually they terminate in a material goods, a
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: material ask. We don't have enough Earths for that. But also,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: if we just said, okay, well, what would it take
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: for American men to marry American women at a rate
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: sufficient for America, just America, just the U.S., to attain
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: replacement-level fertility? Well, I'll tell you what it would take.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It would take American men genociding and enslaving the rest
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of the planet. and appropriating every single bit of their
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: resources to feed their women's hunger for material resources and position.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And that's if they're just not going to say, well,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you've done that, I want now more, which is exactly
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do. But once you have a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: group of women, a population of women, a nation of women,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that's basically saying, Well, we're ending the future. We're ending
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the future of this civilization unless you genocide and enslave
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the rest of the world. Can we start judging them?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Is it possible?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Huh? Can we bring judgment in a bit? Like a
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: little bit of shaming? At least as much as you
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: might shame a woman for letting her dog shit on
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the sidewalk or not recycle? Can we shame? Just a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: crumb of shame? What do you think, Brian? Just a
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: crumb of shame for that?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Uh, maybe.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Why not? A crumb of shame.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's, uh, all right. Keep going.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: So I got a soup, a rumble rant from Nova
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: fan for a dollar. And he says, uh, at this
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: point it's becoming impossible to tell the difference between actual
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: oppression of women and correctly holding women impossible. I think
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: you mean accountable. I refer to any functioning society as
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a basis.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Um, okay.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Well, when communities held women accountable for their ridiculous expectations,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: which I think is literally what the formulation women submit
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to men is, I don't even think it's like day-to-day
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: submission anymore. I think it's just be happy with the
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: men you got and shut up. And I think that's
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: what it's probably actually decomposes to in reality. And when
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we don't do that, we just get out of control.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And it's not hypergamy because maybe hypergamy has a limit.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's hyperbolegomy because there is no limit. It's just it's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's reaching infinity.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Right. OK, let's. All right.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Back to the article. um benevolent sexism isn't a thing
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: women do it's a thing men do look it up
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: but also what he said would be like telling a
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: kid who was getting beat up by the school bully
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to consider the bully's issues because if you just resolve
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the bully's issues maybe he'll stop beating you up and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: you can stop whining about being bullied it's like telling
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: black and brown people that protesting racism is intellectually lazy
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: because the solution is to figure out why people are
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: racist and deal with their issues and then voila your
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: problem will be solved sorry no that's utter nonsense It's
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: like telling a woman to resolve her man's anger problem
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and he'll stop hitting her. It's like telling a woman
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: to resolve gender bias so her boss will pay her equal.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: But never minded that guy. She wrote that. Never minded.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: She wrote that. Because the whole thing spiraled so fast
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I was stunned. So, this is why you can't operate
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: in this frame. It's impossible. And you shouldn't do it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Well, no, you shouldn't operate in this frame, but it's interesting.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: She says it spiraled. Where did it spiral to?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: The moment she read a comment she didn't like, obviously.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it got worse, it sounds like. Like this
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: one man wrote a 600-word essay, which she's not going
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to deny to actually list any of the issues he
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: mentioned and discredit them or try to prove that they
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: don't exist.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Well, let's see.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: All she's going to do. Yeah, let's see how it
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: escalated in her mind.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So back to this. One guy posted to say he's
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the father of two women and he raised both of
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: them to be empowered for a woman, whatever that means, lol.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So again, these guys are announcing their feminism, their allegiance,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't do anything. He said the problem with
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: feminism is that feminists are violent, oppressive, and aggressive, not
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: just to men, but to anyone who disagrees with them.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: He said feminists call any man who disagrees with them
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: a narcissist, and he's made sure both his daughters understand that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Keep in mind this is a left-wing group and it
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: shows in other posts. You can tell they're left-wing guys
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in most conversations, just not this one. Another guy said
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: feminism is a hate cult that wants to blame everything
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: on men as if women have never had any autonomy
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: in any given situation just wow she wrote that I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: just reading what she wrote.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're 100% right feminists are incredibly violent to anybody
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: well you know socially violent To anybody who disagrees with them.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Because they have, once you start questioning them, everything falls apart.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Because they don't base anything on actual logic or empirical science.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: They base everything, everything goes back to that feeling that
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they had in the 1960s. That feeling that they had
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: surrounded by the technology that their husbands bought for them.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: enjoying the greatest amount of security, safety, and leisure in
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: all of human history, feeling bored and having the problem
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: with no name, and then deciding that that boredom had
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to have come somewhere. That boredom that generated that sense
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of resentment over men's sense of purpose, that came from somewhere.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And then looking at that emotion, they created the formulation
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: which is that men oppress women by protecting and providing
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: for them. Literally, guys. I mean, I've spent 20 years,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: and until I actually went and looked at the original
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: documents and what they were saying, I didn't realize that
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: feminists situated the site of oppression in a man providing
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: for his wife, protecting his wife. And why is that
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the site of oppression? Because it induces dependency. And men
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: supposedly not just serves a dependency that already exists. It
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: induces dependency in a woman. And that creates oppression because
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the woman is now dependent on the man. And the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: man does this. All of the sacrifices that go into
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: protecting and providing for women and making a society that's
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: safer for women, including what this man brought up, which
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is lesser sentences for women when they go, that's protecting women.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: From themselves, which we should stop doing, but that's another discussion.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: All of that, all of the sacrifices men do to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: create a safer situation for women, right? To avoid any
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: harms befalling women, even harms that they justifiably should have,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: like being imprisoned. All of that, men do, all these sacrifices,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the homelessness, the greater hours at work, so the loss
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: of health because of the stress of those greater hours,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: all of the jobs that men take to support their
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: families that are dangerous, all of that, the conscription, going
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: to war to protect society, right? The mental health issues
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that don't come from being a man but actually come
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: from the burdens that men take on, right? All of that,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: all of those sacrifices, men engage in those sacrifices. Because
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: they want to make women dependent. And when women are
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: dependent on them, men get man points in the great
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: patriarchal scoreboard in the sky. So what they're actually doing
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: is they're just ranking up relative to other men in
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the great patriarchal scoreboard. And it has nothing really to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: do with benefiting women. It's all about the man points.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It's like that whole discussion about men winning. Judging themselves
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: by whether or not they can give a woman an
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: orgasm becoming, I don't know, man points. And that means
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: that men wanting to pleasure women sexually is now oppression
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: of women. It's all part of the same thing. They
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: situate oppression in men providing and protecting for women. Therefore,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: any of the sacrifices men make to do that is
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: patriarchy backfiring, ipso facto, you guys are all to blame.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And you're doing it to benefit yourselves. This is the
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: snarl of bullshit that I found. Absolute excremental bullshit. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: we have been operating. You know you have a CPU, right?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Feminism took our society's CPU out and replaced it with
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a cow turd. That's what we've been operating off of
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: for 50 years. And necessarily, we've got some problems. And
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: these left guys are actually noticing it, which is a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: surprise because their entire ideology, the I hate men ideology,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: is supposed to suppress that. So this is the last
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: place you'd expect to find it. But finally, it's so
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: bad for them that they're starting to wake up, raise
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: their head out of the cow turd and say, why
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: are we covered in shit? What happened? All right. Let's
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: read some more.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I got another super chow. I know, but people
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: are sending in super chows too. So official reverse trad
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: gives us $ 10 and says, yes, I have told women
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I have finally figured out that a career as a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: professional baker is basically the only thing I think I
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: couldn't screw up. They have told me, quote, I don't know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: end quote, as in they don't believe that a baker
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: earns enough to be able to breed when every society
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: needs a baker. So I don't think Allison's research that
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: women will eventually demand partners that earn millions more than them, what?
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: And they simply won't exist is false. It's not an exaggeration.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I have seen the face of it. Okay,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: thank you for that.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you've got to think that that actually is
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: a sensible statement. Thank you, official reverse trad. You've got
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: to think about all of the careers that are absolutely
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: essential to the process of society, of having an advanced society,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that women don't think earn enough for them to marry.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: You know, like bricklayers, linemen... Men working in nuclear power plants.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: None of this. None of this is acceptable for a
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: woman to marry. Well, why should these men do it then?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: A society is supposed to make participation in a society
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: is supposed to make men's worth legible to women. That's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: like the basic foundational ask for men's participation in a society.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And our society does the reverse. We'd be better off
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Without it, at this point, we would be better off
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: without academia. We would be better off without the government. Sorry, leftists.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: We would be better off without corporations. Sorry, people on
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the right. We would be better off without any of
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: this organizational crap.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry? We would be better off without any of this
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: organizational crap at this point. Just leaving it down to
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: men and women in a natural state. Anyway, let's keep going.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I guess I sound like a hippie.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: One guy. Okay, here's one.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, another guy said feminism is a hate cult that
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: wants to blame everything on men. I already read that part. Sir,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: which part counts as a woman having autonomy? Rape? Domestic violence?
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Not getting paid equal to men? Men not reading women's writing?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Can you expand on that? That's rhetorical, of course. Also
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: a little sarcastic. Here's one that really got me. Before
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I do that, though, men not reading women's writing, that
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: sounds a little bit personal, specific. No one's reading your shit?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: It's probably because you're bad at writing, lady. Go ahead.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also look at the escalation here. First of all, rape, yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the jury's out that men don't experience rape as much
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: as women, sorry. And definitely domestic violence, that's a settled. Like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: rape is maybe not settled. Domestic violence is 100% settled.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Women be beaten, beating their men. Probably at significantly higher
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: rates than the reverse. And rape probably is equal. So
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: what do you got left? Because these are the big
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: things that they do. They always saddle whatever positional ask
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: they want. Notice that. She says rape and domestic violence
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: because you can't argue with that, right? Well, I do,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: but other people don't because they're hard-headed and spurgy. And
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: then you've got the pay gap, right? And then she
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: adds what she really wants. The positional ask, her positional ask,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: which is she wants more attention for her flatulent writing.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: But do you see how she just borrows the valor
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: of this other stuff, of these threat narratives in order
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to land on what her ask is? Like I said,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: it's all about positional maneuvering. And again... Feminism does not
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: get to advocate when it comes to rape and domestic
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: violence because they've made both worse for women. Well, men
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is to go without saying. Of course they've made it
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: worse for men. They've made both of these things worse
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: for women. In the 80s. They had the option to
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: throw behind actual interventions based on psychiatry for sexual offenders
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that were potentially reducing the rate at which women were
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: being preyed upon. But the problem was that those interventions
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: would undermine feminist ideology. Guess which way they chose, what
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: they chose to preserve. Once you decide your ideology is
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: better than women's benefit or more important than women's benefit,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: then you don't get to say you advocate for women's benefit.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, you don't. Your actions are not consistent
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: with what you're signaling here. So no, feminism has the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: reverse relationship to preventing rape and domestic violence. It creates
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: more of it, essentially. So you don't get to say... oh, hey,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: we're the ones who deal. No, you're not. You're the
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: ones who've made it worse. Oh, and therefore, because we're
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: the ones that have dealt with rape and domestic violence,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: everybody's obligated to read my crap. Wow, that's some logic there. Okay,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Alright, here's one that really got me. One guy said
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: feminism is based on the theory of patriarchy that says
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: men have always oppressed women for men's benefit. That's not true,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: he says. In reality, he says, men in power have
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: always benefited women at the expense of other men. Oh look,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: leftist take. It hates men in a different way. Patriarchy,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: he said, isn't what women say it is because not
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: all men have power. Patriarchy, he explained, was always about
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: men protecting and providing for their women at the expense
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: of other men. Wait, what?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: That's not.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: What?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: That's not untrue. That's not untrue. It is an unfortunate fact.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at feminist men. They throw other men
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: under the bus, presumably to elevate their women.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Then that's patriarchy.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: So male feminism is patriarchy. No, I know, but by
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: her definition, well, by this guy's definition, actually, because this
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: is another man, a left-wing man on a forum, again,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: supposedly a forum that's all about men, and he's explaining
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that patriarchy is actually men in power benefiting women at
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: the expense of other men. So it still has a
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: male villain at the top, is what I'm saying. There's
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: still a male villain. There it is.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Let's see what she has to say to that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: All right. Sir, do you mean like Jeff Bezos buying
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Lauren Sanchez a 10-carat diamond and a yacht while men
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: working at Amazon pee in bottles so they don't get fired?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: And how do women earning 82 cents on the male
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: dollar factor into that?
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I just want to get that one paragraph.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, actually just finish this section.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where to start to educate that guy.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Where would you even start? Short answer, nowhere. I would
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: start nowhere. I would rather beat my head on a
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: brick wall than try to educate that guy. Notice she
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't actually reply. She just says, I'm shaking and crying
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just take it on its face. He says,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: patriarchy is always about men protecting and providing for their
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: women at the expense of other men. He's not wrong.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: He's using the term patriarchy, which is ridiculous, but he's right.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: that men in the elite tend to protect and provide
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: for their women at the expense of men in other
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: groups and other tribes, right? That's sort of what happens.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Men do these things in order to protect their women
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and provide for their women. So he's not wrong with that.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: The terminology is wonky. What does she say? What does
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: she think is the counterargument to that?
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: She doesn't give one. She just says, oh, Jeff Bezos, right.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos buying Lauren Sanchez, his wife, a 10-carat diamond
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and a yacht while men work at Amazon peeing bottles
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: so they don't get fired. She just gave him an
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: example of the thing he described. Do you see that, Brian?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but she doesn't see that as bad for men. Well,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: she sees, I guess what she sees is, like, Jeff
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Bezos bad men working at Amazon peeing in bottles is
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: just a side effect but they're not necessarily deserving of
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: sympathy so but then like what's the solution if she
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: sees that as a problem what is the solution because
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: those people need jobs that's why they work at Amazon
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: so do they just not work anymore and if they're
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: not working anymore then how do they get their needs
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: met So I know because I know she's exaggerated about
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: them peeing in bottles. So I want to know if
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: this is you are basically diagnosing a problem. Jeff Bezos
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: and Amazon, they make too much money. That's what she
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: is saying. I don't that's not what I'm saying. That's
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: what she is saying. Therefore, there are men that are
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: working in Amazon that are, quote unquote, being exploited because
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: of the pee in bottles and they get fired. So
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: what do you think they should do? What should those
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: men do?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I think we're going on a side quest because she
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: already says in the second line that she completely denies
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: that this example that she's put is actually an example
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: of exactly what he's saying. And she says, and how
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: do women earning 82 cents on the male dollar factor
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: into that? So she's basically saying that despite the fact
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: that these men in Amazon are peeing in bottles so
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: they don't get fired, they still make more than women. Therefore, patriarchy.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Even though 100% it's men, men's income that determines whether
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: or not men marry. There's no way to get around that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: So she can't actually extend that deeper into the situation.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Like Bezos is making a billion dollars so he can
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: marry a Lawrence Sanchez. Men are making more money so
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: they can progressively marry the woman which is in their league, right?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: So they're going to make more money than women because
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: they have more incentive to do so. Because a woman's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: income does not change whether or not she gets married.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: A man's income does. And until you actually address that,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you're never going to get wage equality because men will
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: always be incentivized to earn more. So nothing that she's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: mentioned changes this. He's saying men in power subjugate other
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: men to be able to give women stuff. Well, that
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: goes all the way down. And I don't think Bezos
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: is really subjugating anyone. Well, unless he's fed backstop, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that's another argument. What's actually happening is Bezos is incentivized
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: to make money. Why? Because he wants a woman to
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: give rings and yachts to. And all the way down
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: to the guy working on Amazon's line is motivated by
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the same thing. That's where the wage gap comes from.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: And she's not engaging with the argument because she thinks
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: that negates it. This guy is basically saying that men
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: sacrifice for women. That's why they earn more. And when
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: they're on top, they are basically gathering up the sacrifice
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: of other men to have even more that they can
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: give a woman. And she just doesn't even seem to
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: perceive this because it's not in her interest to do so.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Because what he's doing is he's showing, he's holding up
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: a mirror to what she herself is doing. You don't
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: think this woman doesn't judge men by their income?
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: No, of course she does, sure.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: But she's a liberal woman. She judges men more by
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: their income than any other woman, any other group of
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: women in America. So she's looking at the same time
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: as she expects 2.3 times more income to get the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: same rate of marriage as a conservative woman. She has
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the audacity to complain about the wage gap. That's what
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: makes my noodle about these women. Like a woman like this.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: This woman is part of a group that demands that
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: men make even more money at the same time as
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: they complain about the wage gap. Where the hell do
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: they think the wage gap comes from?
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Well, it comes from fucking thin air. That's where it
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: comes from. It's non-existent. If anything, women are making more
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: money than men now. But they're just going to keep
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: on bringing up this bullshit myth. And no matter how
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: many times it gets debunked, there are people who just
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: they're just they have a religious link to it. It's
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: a cultish link, actually, where they cannot let it go.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: But go on.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You can debunk it one to one based on the science.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: And yes, the science is bad. You can also debunk
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: it this way. Women don't need to earn a dollar
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: to spend a dollar and 20. They get that from
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the men they marry.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, women spend men's money and their money.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, women can spend men's money and their money. They
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: don't need to earn as much to have the purchasing
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: power of an equivalent man. Why would you? If you
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: just went home and you had a money tree, why
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: would you earn as much? The answer is you wouldn't.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: You can live more. You can do whatever. You can
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have hobbies and watch soaps and read Minotaur porn. But
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: that's what's infuriating. It's like none of this, it's like
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: we handed the reins of society to women who do
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: not have a sense of object permanence when it comes
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: to wage and wage gap and expectations on men. Like
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: none of these things stay in their head long enough
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to influence the others. And we're expecting them through their
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: choices to create a functional society. See, this is my,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you know what? I don't even know if I conveyed it,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: let's just keep going.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Alright. Here's another. One man said he used to consider
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: himself a feminist until he was talking with a feminist
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: and told her about the pain and suffering he and
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: his sisters experienced at the hands of a woman who
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: took care of them as children. The feminist, and she's
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: putting it in quotes because apparently she's not actually a feminist,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: said she understood but said they are different topics and
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: that's when he had an epiphany and realized women just
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: excuse any and all abuse when it's perpetrated by women
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: so they can keep on feeling victimized by men so
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: he's not a feminist anymore. How do you even answer
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: that without breaking your brain?
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: This is the entirety, like she's literally done exactly what
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: he's called her out for. Is this just going to
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: be leftist men call feminists out for their bullshit this
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: feminist just can't even?
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: It sounds like it, yeah. I think she's just putting
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: the comments out there and just letting them lie and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: not actually responding to them. By the way, this anecdote
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: of a man that used to be a feminist until
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: he tried to talk to another feminist about the pain
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and suffering he had He and his sister experienced at
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: the hands of a woman who took care of them
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: as children. That is like interesting timing for this to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: be ignored by the author of this blog. But anyway.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is interesting. She's not going to mention.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think she mentions Lindsay Clancy.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: No, that's not going to come up. I don't know
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: how old this is, though. It's from September 9th. So
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: that's not that long ago. But okay. Anyway. How do
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: you even answer that without breaking your brain? I mean,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: you can try. You can explain that a grown-ass adult
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: abusing kids is a problem that happens, and too often. Oh,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: I like it when there's evil to be done, suddenly
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: it's not gendered anymore, they're just adults. Even though women
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: are more likely to beat their kids than men are,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: but whatever. Half a million children experience abuse every year
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: in America. No one is negating that. No one is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: saying all women are angels. No one is saying women
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: don't hit children too. Child abuse and gender bias are problems,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: but they are different problems.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Literally. Literally. Did you notice that? This man says he
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: was talking with a feminist. He told her about the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: pain and suffering. He experienced that the hands of a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: woman take care of them. And the feminist said she understood,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: but they were different topics.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: And what is this woman? Exactly the same maneuver guys.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: He does exactly the same thing. Right. But she also
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: tries to discredit the original woman by putting feminists in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: scare quotes like it wasn't really a feminist. Allow me
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: to explain to you what a real feminist is and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: then it says the exact same thing.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. It's a logical Ouroboros.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: No sense of object permanence. Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: No sense of object permanence at all. Like we're basically
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: listening to a person, a.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Just a drawstring doll and no no way of connecting
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: one thing she says to another there's no logical connection
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if she has an inner monologue
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: it's probably just thought bubbles bursting from nowhere and she
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: can't make a connection between them maybe this is why
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy happened all right let's keep going.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: All right um how is why is that so hard
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: to grasp how is that so offensive Is it wrong
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: for a woman to harm the children she's hired to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: take care of? Yes, of course. Is it the same
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: problem as women not being allowed to have a bank
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: account until 1974 and still earning 82 cents on the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: male dollar in 2026? No. This is basic Sesame Street stuff.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: One of these things is not like the other. Why
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: is that so darn hard? Why do you keep lying?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Why do you keep regurgitating these myths about women in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: bank accounts and the wage gap Like, it's so exhausting.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know how, like, all right, first of all,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: we don't know what he was saying. The context of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: this is different. So being abused by a woman is different. Well, yes,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: it's different because it doesn't support feminist conjecture, right? It
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: actually challenges it. And feminists will do their damnedest to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: hide anything that challenges women's blamelessness because that's the currency
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: of the woman card. And everything is about position and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: access to resources. Nothing is about any external standards. They
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: don't care about women. They don't care about children. They
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: just care about maintaining their position because their position gets resources.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: But she's basically just said the same thing. And then...
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: She adds to it, he's talking about child abuse, and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: she brings up financial things. It's the same problem as
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: women not being... Yes, women had bank accounts prior to 19... Like,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: this just keeps getting more and more ridiculous. And you're right,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: it's just lies, but it's like... But we were talking
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: about child abuse. Yes, that's a... Women not having bank
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: accounts before there were banks... is a very different problem
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: than child abuse. One is something that happens. The second
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: is a complaint that is retarded. Okay, let's do the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: next section.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: All right, I got another super chow. Darky Yamora gives
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: us $ 5 and says, I've told feminists that I was
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: a victim of being raped by an adult cis woman
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: as a cis man. Their reaction was to say anything
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: other than, I'm so sorry. The reaction was, fuck you, misogynist.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Why should anybody support anything feminist anywhere ever at all? Well,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: that's a great question. Also, if you don't want to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: support feminism, which I solely support you not supporting, don't
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: use the word cis. Don't use it. It's their word.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Don't fall for that, okay? You're just a man. And
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: she was a woman. And that's enough. That's enough. I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: don't think trans people need that level of inclusion. That's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: more woke garbage. So, anyway.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Um....
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: How do men actually believe this stuff? Was that right
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: with that bit? No. I actually laughed out loud, but
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: he wasn't joking. He continued. Men started businesses and succeeded,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: he said. Men invented things, and women saw men outpacing
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: them everywhere, so they invented the term feminism to make
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: it look like women were just being intentionally oppressed by men.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: It's all fake, he said. Okay, that's kind of based.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you. How do men actually believe this stuff? How
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: do you even answer a guy like that? No, note,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: you don't. You just suppress him. You censor him. Maybe
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: you murder him. That way he can't say those things
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: if he's dead. Am I being hyperbolic? I don't think
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I am. Nope.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Alright. You make a list of facts he's not going
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: to read anyway?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Another man said feminism really needs to be discussed in
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: the context of religion because all the feminists causing problems
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: for men are a bunch of evangelical religious people.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: What? What?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: That comic got dozens of hearts. What? Reading all that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: stuff broke my brain a little. I wanted to post
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: and ask if they're sure they're left-wing dudes, because they
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: don't sound like left-wing dudes, if you know what I mean. Well,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, though. But this guy was trying to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: claim that feminists were evangelical religious people?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. No, he's saying that feminism
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: is an evangelical religion.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay. Well, that... I'd say cult, but.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Probably more like a cult, yes.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a cult.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Like a cult. I think that's what he was going for. But,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: you know, unexpectedly based... I mean, maybe we could have
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: a talk about being commies, but, you know, at least
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: you're getting to the point of understanding what feminism actually is.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: And the answer is that she's not going to do...
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: She hasn't actually given a counter-argument. The only counter-argument actually
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: supported the point of the man she was attempting to argue.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: And again, she doesn't have anything. None of her position
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: as a feminist is based on argument. It is all
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: based on position. You get into positions of authority, you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: suppress any counter evidence. You suppress people who offer counter evidence.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: That's how it works. It's all about position. And there
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: is no evidence to be found. And I'm glad that,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: at the very least, these left-wing men are learning this.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: That is good. And maybe at some point you can
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: reconsider the whole Marxist war against the capitalists. And the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: reason why I say that, and I've talked to communists,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: which I will give them some credit, they are a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: lot more polite than feminists, but that's pretty low bar.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: But You guys have to have a system that recognizes meritocracy. Otherwise,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: men won't participate in it. There has to be some
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: kind of competence hierarchy and some kind of way of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: keeping track of it. Otherwise, men won't participate. That's not
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: a system that works for men. So that's my first
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: comment on that. And then the other thing is that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: you've got to update your economic analysis. Because some dude
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: in the 1800s or 1900s, yeah, he doesn't know the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: problems that we have now. And we do have problems.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: We most certainly do. So maybe just consider updating your
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: economic analysis. And then the other thing is that guys who...
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: make stuff, the capitalists who use capital to make stuff,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: they're as much worse. In fact, that's a good thing.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: A man who uses a factory, who builds a factory
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: to create goods is increasing the standard of living of everybody.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Because then they have goods to buy. You have plenty
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: of factories, plenty of goods going out. Guess what? Your
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: wages buy more because those goods have to go somewhere, right?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: The more they increase the volume of those goods, the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: cheaper they become, the more likely your wage is going
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: to be able to buy them. You have to think
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: economy isn't just a wage. It's also the availability of
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: products to buy, right? So the capitalist, by increasing the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: amount of product in the economy, is benefiting everyone, right?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: And the Marxist analysis doesn't include that benefit when it
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: tries to locate the material benefit. You got to also
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: include that benefit. And it comes from a set of
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: standards that are very much tied to the free market
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: and capitalism, which is if you fail... to provide for
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the market, to provide material goods that people want, you
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: go bankrupt, which is why Fed backstopping absolutely corrupts the process.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: So you tell me, when you're thinking about your economic theories,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: first of all, how do you create a system that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: men are going to want to buy into without any
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: meritocracy or status based on hierarchy and recognition thereof? How
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: are you going to create a system that creates productivity?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Not just everybody has a wage, but how do you
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: make that wage translate into everybody giving back things to purchase,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: service and products to purchase? Otherwise, your wage is nothing.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: It's just a number that buys nothing. And how do
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: you do that without capitalists? They make money, like a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: capitalist makes money off of creating product. The product increases
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: the standard of living of everybody. Because then people have
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: things they can buy. That's how the capitalism works. And
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: you've got to figure all of that out. And then
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: you have to also realize that that is exactly what
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: you want to incentivize in a society. You want to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: incentivize men who add more product to the economy than
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: they take out. That they use capital for this. Because
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: what we have now... is much worse because what we
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: have now is men, and it's mostly men, sorry, the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: finance is mostly men, who are selling claims on things
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: rather than things. And so instead of investing in their
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: capital to make product, they put it back into their stock.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: They buy back stock and they increase their stock options.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And that's how they make money. So the capitalists used
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: to make money off of making a better product, a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: cheaper product or expanding the reach of the product, which
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: benefits everybody that that product touches. can potentially buy. And
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: what we have now is extractors who make money off
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: of stock prices, so they don't invest in capital to
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: improve product, increase product, or increase the range of product.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: They just buy back their own stock, which increases their
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: stock options value, and they make money that way, on
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: a claim, on a position, on a line, on a chart.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Is this what you wanted? This is what I mean
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: by update your freaking economic criticism, men of the left.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Update it. Get it into the 21st century. Stop being
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: so freaking archaic. The capitalists, the capitalists are dead. The
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: apex extractors now stride upon the horizon. Thank you, Marx.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: You killed the capitalists. So the men who saw themselves,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: their wealth, and their position and their status in terms
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: of returning material goods to the economy, they're all dead. Congratulations.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Nobody has any upward mobility anymore because the economy is
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: based on a churn of claims and symbols rather than
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: actual jobs that men do. I don't know. And 57%
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: of women have a job that's basically mandated by the
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: government and is parasitic on men's taxes. Yes. Great. Thank you.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Marxism and feminism. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Excellent.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Totally destroyed labor. Totally destroyed the proletariat. Who knew that
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: the capitalist was the proletariat's best friend and Marx was not? Okay.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Let's keep going.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: All right. Those who, do you know what answer is?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: You know what the answer is, right? History. Those who
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. When
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Gustave Le Bon.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Can I just get the article? Okay, it's already been
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: an hour and 15 minutes. When Gustave Le Bon published
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: his book about crowd behavior in 1895, there was no
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: internet yet. He said a group isn't just a gathering
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: of many minds. A crowd can quickly become a single
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: psychological entity that operates on raw emotion more than intellect
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: and can quickly become a destructive and damaging force. Again,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know where she's going to take this ship,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: but I can already see where it should be landing.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: His work paved the way for studies into groupthink and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: mob behavior. But time and technology often shift how we
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: think of things, and once the internet and online communities
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: came along, psychologists were quick to point out that online
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: group behavior can be meaningful to participants and foster a
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: sense of belonging and social acceptance, that members might not
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: be finding anywhere else. And that's true, always has been.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I think this section was just written for her by
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: an AI. But continue.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Perhaps. Always has been, long before the internet. Ask anyone
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: who belongs to a book club, writer's group, or hobby-based group.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: The camaraderie and sense of belonging is wonderful, but should
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: we apply that to groups of people spewing hate rhetoric?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Because I don't think we should. I don't know how
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: to change men like that. Honestly, I don't think I can.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: So she's saying.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: No, you don't.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. What I do know.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: And the men who say this stuff, you guys have
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: got to realize that what you're listening to is a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: woman who has absolutely insane material and status-based expectations. And
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: she's using virtues she picked up from the left to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: excuse it, to hide it. So instead of her being
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: actually one hell of a greedy social climber, instead of
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: that status-seeking gold digger, she gets to hide behind, oh,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: it's men's personality that's the problem. Oh, it's men don't
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: care about my rights as a woman. That's what she's
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: been doing this entire time is she's welding all of
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: these threat narratives about rape and domestic violence and the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: wage gap and women not having bank accounts to her
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: attention as an author. Okay.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to change men like that. Honestly,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think I can. What I do know is
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: that seeing that level of vitriol amongst a group of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: men who profess to be left-leaning men who care about
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: social change opened my eyes to how big the problem is.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: And anyone who thinks anti-feminism is a far-right issue is
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: dead wrong. Okay, that's the end of the article. Wow,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not reading all that shit by you. That was
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: like a long comment. So... That's the end of the article. Allison,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: are you there? Allison. Well, let me look at what
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: you guys are saying. I don't know where... She's here,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: but she's not talking. I don't know if she's muted
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: or if there's a problem with her microphone or what. Yes.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Hello?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm back. I don't know what happened. I think
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: it's something that got jarred. But yeah, what I said was...
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: This is like all of this. Everything this woman is saying... Like,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: she never answers any of these arguments. And she always,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: what she does is she places her position in adjunct, right,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: adjacent to feminist threat narratives. So that she's using feminist
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: threat narratives about rape, domestic violence, the wage gap, women
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: not having bank accounts, right? She's using all of these
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: to try to nullify these arguments without engaging with them,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: but also to, you know, indicate that her lack of
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: viewership as the writer, even though she has 70,000, like, followers,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: you know, that's men's fault, too. Right? But you see
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: how everything is about position, and and winning through position
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: rather than engaging with argument.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Anyway, that's very relational.
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  Speaker 3: Usually the way it goes.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: But again, she's part of an ideology that is incredibly materialistic,
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  Speaker 2: incredibly status climbing and, And she uses all of this
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: stuff that what men consider to be some kind of
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: external standard to live up to, she's using it as
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: a cloak for her greed and vanity. That's it. That
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: is as shallow as women's feminism is. There's nothing there
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  Speaker 2: aside from they don't want to be judged for being
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: greedy and They don't want to be judged for being
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: status climbers. They don't want to be judged for any
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: of that. And they can use feminist talking points to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: shut you up. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Nothing more to it. Okay. Okay. Did you have anything
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: you wanted to say?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: No. I got a super chat I'm going to read out.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: So official reverse track gives us $ 5. 00. And says, my
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: problem is when I debated a feminist and they complained
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: citing Gary Becker from 1973 was citing somebody who was
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: too old to be relevant when Adam Smith and Marx... Look,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just reading it the way you wrote it, okay?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: So if you can't follow, that's not my fault. When
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: Adam Smith and Marx, if they agreed with him, are
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: hundreds of years older than Becker and Becker was mostly
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: pushing reasoned logic claims rather than claims of empirical... Replay.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Highlights from the gaming stream.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: So tell me if you can see it.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to share it.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going to share it on the vertical too. So
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: give me a second, people, vertical people.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Here we go. I can hear.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: All right. So you got it. You're in there. Let
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: me just share this. I'm good. Let me just make
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: it big so that people on the vertical can see
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: it real quick. Man, the health pack.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Okay. This health pack thing, I don't know if it's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: worth it.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: So, for context, people... It's better to get a cart.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: I just need you guys to be quiet for a second.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: For context, this is Aaron Rodgers. He is a famous athlete,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: professional athlete. And he is on a podcast. I think
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: it's called More Than Ball or something like that. So, basically,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: it's a sports podcast. And he's talking about his ex-fiancee,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: Shailene Woodley, who requested permission to sleep with another man
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: shortly after his proposal so she was basically he proposed
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: her to marry her and she was like but first
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: i want to get my you know my hall pass
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: so here's the clip i'm gonna play it now you
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: guys in the repo aren't gonna be able to see
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: it but the people watching at home can see it
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: so just give me a second while i play this
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: oh maybe i can share my audio nah i'm not
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: gonna do that let's.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Go you know then i didn't share and.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Quiet quiet quiet i'm gonna do this again It's a
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: minute long. You have to be quiet for a whole minute, okay?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: You know, then I date Shailene.
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  Speaker 3: And I propose.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: And she says yes.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: Now, she.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe felt like she was forced to make a decision.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: She could have said no. But not a couple days
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: after that, she tells me, you know, before we get married,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: I got to go f * * * this guy.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm like... Because her story is that I... ruined
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: her life and gave her a crazy depression because I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: left her. But the actuality is she told me that.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: And then she took off the ring by March. So
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: I proposed in December, took out the ring by March.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: And we had a couple of times where we tried to,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: you know, get reunited and nothing ever happened. And there
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't even a relationship in 22 to break off. She'd
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: literally told me, I don't want to be with you.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: After we tried to have some sort of reconciliation in 2021.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, there's just a lot of nerves out
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: there that are just not true.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: All right. So that's the clip. So fucking super famous,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: like professional athlete guy and his girl wants to have
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: sex with other dudes before she commits to an engagement.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: So keep that in mind when women say men don't
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: are afraid of a commitment. Yeah, that was the video clip.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry if you were in the YouTube and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: you couldn't hear it. I'm sorry about that. Or you
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: were in the game and couldn't hear it. But those
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: of you guys at home should have seen the clip.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: So let me know. Confirm to me that you heard
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: and saw everything that I just played. The Shailene Woodley clip.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I can't believe he tried to make it work. Sorry.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: How's my sound? That's better. That's better. Okay, I'm surprised
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: that he tried to make that work. I mean, honestly, guys,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: I think... Unless you're like, I guess, Swingers, when he
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: gets to have a pass too, and goes to sleep
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: with some supermodels, this should probably be.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: This should.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Probably be a hard no.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Just forget it. Yeah, it's just.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, how much does this man make? Like,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: probably multi-millionaire, right?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I'm disdainful. Gun, gun, gun. Smug, disdainful. I got another gun.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Gun.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Alright. I'm gonna read some Super Chow's. I'm gonna read
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: a couple Super Chow's that came in, okay?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: I think I know what you should get, Allison, for Christmas, Jonathan. Oh.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: I want to get this.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: Please, I must get the double jump. Well, a gun,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: of course. All right. Richard Bier sends through $ 5 and says,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: so as bad as the situation was with that woman
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: asking for a hall pass right after she was proposed to,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: at least he found out up front. Remember that there
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: was the terminally ill woman who asked her husband of
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: many years for one last fling with a previous lover
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: because she said to him the sex was better. It
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: is so oppressive that men expect so much from women
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: in that they ask what the women commit to one
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: person long term and not kill the children. It must
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: be so empowering and liberating to be giving handles to
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: minotaurs to be able to, I think he means handies,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: handies to get minotaurs. to be able to afford genuine
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Starbucks in the reusable Starbucks cup instead of the humiliation
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: of having to fill that cup with gas station coffee.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: That was a lot, but thank you for the super chow.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: And then Rex, porcelain king of the toilets.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: It's a reference to why the woman ended up milking
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: the minotaurs is because she wanted Starbucks coffee instead of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: gas station coffee.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Those were the stakes.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: They were tremendous.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: The stakes were tremendous.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, fuck.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Review that would be time sensitive in the first place.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: It is fair to point out feminists don't use reason logic,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah, no shit. They... Newsflash! Feminism is illogical.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter because it's all about consensus, which
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: is basically like getting enough people to agree on what
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: reality is, and then going along with that, assuming that
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: the conclusion is what they want, and then extracting power
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: and resources from the people they're complaining about.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: So...