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- 0:00The Fed just pulled the trigger again.
- 0:02Another rate cut and just like that, Bitcoin dips to 108 K.
- 0:09OK, Fox News alert. We've got that key interest rate
- 0:11decision. It is out now the Federal
- 0:13Reserve cutting interest rates by 25 basis points.
- 0:17That's a quarter point and the markets have been rallying into
- 0:20this decision. The Dow up 150 points right now
- 0:23at an another record high, although there's a bit of sell
- 0:27off happening on the news, as does sometimes happen.
- 0:31Welcome to another hour of America.
- 0:32You can hear the panic echoing across the timeline.
- 0:35Dudes who were bulls turned to bears and started dancing around
- 0:40like Buffalo Bill. But listen, not for Bitcoin.
- 0:48The full faith and credit of the United States is cracking.
- 0:52Jerome Powell even knows we're on an unsustainable path.
- 0:56This isn't about 25 basis points.
- 0:58This is about the end of an era and the beginning of the next.
- 1:01Because while Powell's printing confetti, Michael Saylor's
- 1:05calling for 150K Bitcoin by the end of the year.
- 1:09Hell yeah, baby. Well, I think Bitcoin is going
- 1:17to continue to grind up. I think the volatility is coming
- 1:21off of it as the industry becomes more structured with
- 1:24more derivatives and more ways to hedge it.
- 1:27Our, our expectation right now is the end of the year.
- 1:30It should be about $150,000. And that's the consensus of the
- 1:35equity analysts that cover our, our company and the Bitcoin
- 1:38industry right now. I don't know why it won't grind
- 1:42up to $1,000,000 a coin over the next 4 to 8 years.
- 1:46I would think not less than 4, not more than 8.
- 1:49And of course, my long term forecast is it goes up about 30%
- 1:53a year for the next 20 years and we're headed toward $20 million
- 1:57Bitcoin. Michael, thank you so much.
- 2:00Yeah, my pleasure. Let's start with the rate cut
- 2:02heard round the world. the Fed just made its second rate cut of
- 2:062025, officially ending QT on December 1st.
- 2:10That means no more balance sheet reduction translation.
- 2:14QE 5 just snuck in the back door wearing a fake mustache.
- 2:18Oh, and what's this? Powell said they'll start adding
- 2:22reserves. So you're right, the, the, the
- 2:25place we'll be on December 1 is that the size of the balance
- 2:28sheet is frozen. And as mortgage-backed
- 2:30securities mature, we'll reinvest those in treasury
- 2:33bills, which will foster both a more treasury balance sheet and
- 2:38also a shorter duration. So that's what in the meantime,
- 2:41if you freeze the size of the balance sheet, the non reserve
- 2:43liabilities currency for example, they're going to
- 2:45continue to grow organically. And because of the size of the
- 2:48balance sheet is frozen, you have further shrinkage in, in
- 2:51reserves and reserves is the thing that we're that we're
- 2:54managing that has to be ample. So that'll happen for a time,
- 2:58but not a not a tremendously long time.
- 3:00We don't know exactly how long, but at a certain point you'll
- 3:03want to start grow, you want to start reserves to start
- 3:06gradually growing to keep up with, you know, the size of the
- 3:09banking system and the size of the economy.
- 3:11So we'll be adding reserves at a certain point.
- 3:15And that's the, that's the last point even then will be, will
- 3:18be, we didn't make decisions about this today, but you, we
- 3:22did talk today about the composition of the balance
- 3:25sheet. And there's a desire that the,
- 3:27that the balance sheet be right now we, we're, it, it's, it's
- 3:30got a lot more duration than the outstanding universe of treasury
- 3:34securities. And we want to move to a place
- 3:36where we're closer to that duration.
- 3:38That'll take some time. We haven't made a decision about
- 3:40the ultimate end point, but we all agree that we want to move
- 3:43more in the direction of a of a balance sheet that more closely
- 3:46reflects the outstanding treasuries and that means a
- 3:49shorter duration balance sheet. Now this is something that's
- 3:53going to be take a long time and move very, very gradually and I
- 3:57don't think you'll notice it in market conditions, but but
- 4:00that's that's the direction of things.
- 4:01What? The hell is he talking about?
- 4:03But anyway, that's probably Fed speak for we're out of ammo, so
- 4:07let's print some more. Now Powell's pretending this
- 4:09isn't QE, but come on, the Fed's been quietly reinvesting
- 4:13Treasuries into new bills. That's liquidity injection one O
- 4:171. And what happens when liquidity
- 4:19floods the system? Stocks fake a recovery, the rich
- 4:22get richer and Bitcoin gets jet fuel.
- 4:25So why the dip? Well, because people are
- 4:27confusing short term price action with a long term
- 4:30conviction. Every empire hits this face when
- 4:33the currency starts dying, the rulers start lying, cut rates,
- 4:37pause QT, spin the narrative, rinse and repeat.
- 4:39The truth is the pivot is here. the Fed can't walk it back now
- 4:43even though Jerome said this. Now, this is a longer clip from
- 4:46his speech yesterday, but pay attention and we'll talk about
- 4:49what was said that everyone is missing right after it, and why
- 4:53Jerome's statement isn't as hawkish as it appears to be.
- 4:57Here we go. So.
- 4:58Mr. Chairman, I want to take another crack at the at the
- 5:00further reduction in rates is not a foregone conclusion.
- 5:04So in December he said far from it.
- 5:06So if a cut might not be on the table for December because of
- 5:10lack of data, what is the other concerns then stem from?
- 5:15So if it's not lack of data as as the reason December it is, is
- 5:19not a foregone conclusion. What other things could be the
- 5:22concern then? Well, the perspective is on of
- 5:24people on the committee that, you know, we've now moved 150
- 5:28basis points and that we're down into, you know, you're into the
- 5:33that range between 3:00 and 4:00 where most estimates of many
- 5:38estimates of the neutral rate live in that 3 to 4% here you're
- 5:42there now you're, you're above the median number for the
- 5:45committee. But I think there are people on
- 5:47the committee who have higher estimates of the neutral rate.
- 5:50And that's a, you know, you can argue these positions since it
- 5:52can't be directly observed to neutral rate.
- 5:54So, you know, I, I think for, for, for some part of the
- 6:00committee, you know, it's time to maybe take a step back and,
- 6:04and, and, and see whether there, there really are downside risk
- 6:09to the labor market or see whether in fact, the, the growth
- 6:13that the stronger growth that we're seeing is, is real.
- 6:17Ordinarily the labor market is a better indicator of the momentum
- 6:21of the economy than the spending data.
- 6:23That's the lore in this case that gives a more downbeat read.
- 6:29So people just have, you know, they're again, we've cut 50 more
- 6:33basis points in the last two meetings.
- 6:35And there was a sense like let's perform some let's let's let's
- 6:40pause here kind of thing and a sense from others wanting to go
- 6:43ahead. But that's why I say differing
- 6:47views, strongly differing views. And so on that division then
- 6:50you're talking about going forward.
- 6:52So what's more important to in this division?
- 6:54Is it inflation risks, is it employment risk?
- 6:57Or is is there a deeper philosophy division among the
- 7:00board? I, I look, everybody on the
- 7:03committee is deeply committed to doing the right thing to achieve
- 7:08our goals. Maximum employment and stable
- 7:09prices. You have differences on how to
- 7:11do that. And as I mentioned, some of that
- 7:14is different forecasts, but a lot of it is also different risk
- 7:18aversions to the different to, to do different variables, which
- 7:21is common through, you know, through all Federal Reserve
- 7:24there there did people just have different risk tolerances, let's
- 7:28say. So that leads you to people with
- 7:30disparate views. You will know that from the
- 7:33speeches you've been listening to from my colleagues.
- 7:35And, and so we're at a place now where we have in fact cut two
- 7:39more times and you know, we're now we're 150 basis points
- 7:43closer to neutral, wherever that may be than we were a year ago.
- 7:46And so there's, there's a growing chorus now of a feeling
- 7:50like maybe this is where we should at least wait a cycle,
- 7:53something like that. That's, that's what it is.
- 7:55It's just what you think it would be.
- 7:56It's and again, you've seen it in the, in the, the September
- 8:00summer of economic projections. You've seen this in the, in the
- 8:03public remarks of FOMC participants.
- 8:05And and now I'm telling you that's what that's what you can
- 8:08expect that in the minutes. And I'm just telling you that's
- 8:11what happened in the meeting. Elizabeth, thank you so much.
- 8:16Lisa Schulte with ABC News, what is your explanation for why the
- 8:21job market is weakening right now?
- 8:23And what will this rate cut do to improve the job market?
- 8:28So the, I think the there are two things affecting the job
- 8:32market and one of them is just a dramatic reduction in the supply
- 8:37of new workers. So and that's two things.
- 8:41That's declining labor force participation, which is a
- 8:46cyclical thing. And then there's declining
- 8:47immigration, which is just a big policy change that actually
- 8:51began in the last administration and it has been accelerated now.
- 8:54So a big part of the whole story is that that supply Side Story,
- 8:59OK. In addition, labor demand has
- 9:01declined and, and you know, the so the labor, the unemployment
- 9:04rate has gone down, meaning that demand for workers is going down
- 9:06a little more than supply. So that's, that's what's going
- 9:11on. And but it is mostly a supply
- 9:14function. That's a, you know, it's mostly
- 9:16a function of, of the change in supply, I think, and many people
- 9:20think so. The question then is what does,
- 9:22what does the, you know, our tool do which supports demand?
- 9:26And you know, so, and I would just say when you're, when
- 9:30you're in a situation where job, job creation, if you adjust for
- 9:36likely over counting in the way that BLS does its work is pretty
- 9:41close to 0. So maximum employment doesn't on
- 9:46a sustainable basis doesn't if it's, if you're making creating
- 9:49zero jobs, if it's in equilibrium, if it's, if it's in
- 9:52balance, it's a pretty as I, as I said before, a pretty curious
- 9:56balance. So, you know, I thought any of
- 9:59my colleagues thought, in fact, you've seen the last two
- 10:02meetings that it was appropriate for us to react by supporting
- 10:05demand with our, with our rates. And we've done that.
- 10:09We've we've reduced so that rates are looser there.
- 10:12I wouldn't say that they're accommodative right now, but
- 10:14they're meaningfully less tight than they were.
- 10:17And that should help so that at least the labor market doesn't,
- 10:21doesn't get worse, though it's, it's a complicated situation.
- 10:24And, and some people argue that that this is supply and we
- 10:27really can't affect it much with our tools.
- 10:30But others argue, as I do, that, that there is an effect from
- 10:33demand and that that we should use our tools to support the
- 10:36labor market when we see this happening.
- 10:38Powell didn't just cut rates, he played politics live on stage.
- 10:42He basically told Congress, reopen the government or no
- 10:45December cut for you. No soup.
- 10:47It wasn't policy guidance, it was a hostage negotiation.
- 10:52Markets freaked out, Treasury yield spiked, Bitcoin dipped,
- 10:55and everyone screamed hawkish. But here's the inside baseball.
- 10:58This was not a hawkish move. It was leverage.
- 11:01This was conditionality. Powell saying give me data,
- 11:05reopen DC and I'll have cover to print again.
- 11:08You can't call this tightening when the feds already declared
- 11:11an end to QT. That's like saying you're on a
- 11:14diet while ordering dessert before the meal.
- 11:17Complete battery, so the headlines read.
- 11:20No guarantee of a December cut. But what really happened?
- 11:23Powell just greenlit the next liquidity flood right as his own
- 11:27term expires in six months. Says you're gone, you're gone,
- 11:31and Powell's about to be the full guy for 50 years of
- 11:35Keynesian clown math. Every empire dies the same way.
- 11:38Military overreach, reckless spending, currency debasement,
- 11:42inflation, lost trust until collapse.
- 11:45Rome did it, Weimar did it. Even Powell knows we are on an
- 11:49unsustainable fiscal path. How do you?
- 11:52Assess. The national debt, we mostly try
- 11:55very hard not to comment on fiscal policy and and, you know,
- 12:00instruct Congress on how to do their job when it actually they
- 12:02have oversight over us. But is the national debt a
- 12:05danger to the economy in your review?
- 12:07In the long run? the US is on an unsustainable
- 12:11fiscal path. the US federal government's on an unsustainable
- 12:13fiscal path. And that just means that the
- 12:15debt is growing faster than the economy.
- 12:18I have the sense this worries you very much over the long run.
- 12:21Of course it does. You know, we're effectively,
- 12:24we're borrowing from future generations.
- 12:26It's time for us to get back to putting a priority on fiscal
- 12:30sustainability. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary
- 12:33Scott Besson just announced A radical plan.
- 12:36Cut federal jobs, re privatize the economy and turbocharge
- 12:40manufacturing. Something about re leveraging
- 12:43the banking system. Translation.
- 12:45We broke it. Now we're pretending that we can
- 12:47fix it. We are under your direction.
- 12:50We're re privatize the economy, we're bringing down government
- 12:53spending, we're bringing down excess employment in the
- 12:56government sector. On the other side, we're going
- 12:59to re leverage the banking system.
- 13:01We're going to have all the new manufacturing jobs.
- 13:03So everyone is laid off the from the government will have an
- 13:07opportunity to go into the private sector and that is going
- 13:10to lead to disinflation. We're going to inflation is
- 13:14under control, we're going to get the affordability crisis
- 13:17fixed. So lower energy deregulation,
- 13:21more private sector jobs that will naturally get interest
- 13:25rates down. Interest rates down.
- 13:28Mortgage rates are down almost every week since January 20th.
- 13:32The energy costs are down about 15%.
- 13:35Crude oil is down about 15%. And as we keep that going,
- 13:39interest rates are going to keep declining.
- 13:42It'll it'll be good for mortgages, it'll be good for
- 13:44credit card debt, it'll be great for auto loans.
- 13:48While the Fed fiddles, the geopolitical stage is Catching
- 13:51Fire. Trump just met with GI historic
- 13:54deals, lowered tariffs, fentanyl crackdown, rare earths, free
- 13:58flow, Alaska oil buys. It's the art of the deal meets
- 14:03Doctor Strangelove because on the same day, Russia tested its
- 14:07Poseidon nuke torpedo and Trump ordered US nuclear testing for
- 14:12the first time since 1992. Yeah, the Fiat world's cracking,
- 14:17and now the nukes are back. The National Guards training
- 14:19quick reaction forces for domestic unrest.
- 14:22This is 4th turning chaos in real time.
- 14:25And when the 4th turning strikes, it's time to secure
- 14:28your generational wealth. And IF150K didn't give you an
- 14:32Omega candle, Hells, a $10 million Michael Saylor happy
- 14:36ending sound. We're about to bring it home.
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- 15:41Exactly, Eleanor. And honestly, we're also, you
- 15:43know, we talk about this a lot, but we were filing, we filed for
- 15:46Bitcoin index options to complement our NASDAQ 100
- 15:49options program. We have an unbelievable NDX, we
- 15:54call the NASDAQ 100 obviously, and we have option index options
- 15:57on them where we've grown substantially in the last three
- 16:00to four years. We're now averaging over 110,000
- 16:03contracts a day, which two years ago was in the 40s.
- 16:05So a lot of growth. And we expect that same thing to
- 16:07happen with Bitcoin index options at NASDAQ.
- 16:10NASDAQ says demand for Bitcoin is about to explode.
- 16:13These are the same institutions that called it a joke 10 years
- 16:17ago. And Michael Saylor said Bitcoin
- 16:19will hit a humble 150K by the end of the year.
- 16:21But that's that's just the pit stop on the way to Valhalla
- 16:25because he also says. So we're winning.
- 16:30But I guess the good news for everybody is we're going to keep
- 16:34winning for the next 10 years. And there's forty quarters
- 16:37during which Vanguard will first accidentally own my stock, then
- 16:43they will grudgingly let you buy it, then they will allocate 1%
- 16:47to it, and then they'll be like, wow, it's AI.
- 16:49Guess it's a good idea. And when I say, and I've said
- 16:52it, Scott, and you've heard, it's like by the time the
- 16:54bankers tell you it's it's OK to buy it, it'll cost you
- 16:57$1,000,000 a Bitcoin. And when they tell you what's a
- 17:00good idea, it'll cost 10 million a Bitcoin.
- 17:02So you're getting a 99% discount right now to do the work
- 17:06yourself and show some courage and you get a 99, a 90%
- 17:11discount. You know when they make it easy
- 17:13for you, but you'll pay 10 times more.
- 17:16And the math doesn't lie. the Fed ends, QT liquidity rises,
- 17:19real yields fall. Bitcoin rips.
- 17:22It's not faith, it's physics. Even the Strive CEO said it on
- 17:26Bloomberg. Bitcoin is the only answer to
- 17:28the debt crisis because when the debt's unpayable and the money's
- 17:32unbacked, the only thing left is to opt out.
- 17:35It actually was the reason I became a Bitcoiner in the 1st
- 17:37place. I was managing a large portfolio
- 17:40of U.S. Treasuries.
- 17:41I was probably one of the largest buyers of U.S.
- 17:43Treasuries in the United States and talking directly to the Fed,
- 17:46to the treasury, it gave me conviction as a once Bitcoin
- 17:51skeptic that Bitcoin was the only answer to the debt crisis
- 17:56and the Fiat currency debasement.
- 17:57And the Fiat currency debasement as an investment opportunity is
- 18:01kind of becoming popular in Wall Street circles now.
- 18:04But for Bitcoiners, this was a core part of the thesis and
- 18:08obviously the other being true financial freedom in an opt out
- 18:11from a system. But, but the debasement trade
- 18:14bitcoins is the only answer. And I think that a lot of
- 18:17bitcoiners, including myself and Strive have conviction that the
- 18:21US government's never going to stop printing money.
- 18:23The debt crisis is a bipartisan issue.
- 18:26And you know, as an American, I'd love to see it be solved,
- 18:29but I, I am not optimistic on it being solved.
- 18:32And I think that only provides more and more tailwinds for
- 18:35Bitcoin and people that invest in Bitcoin. 2025 is in 2008.
- 18:39It's a 1929 with memes. We're watching the system
- 18:43unravel in high definition, and just like every empire before
- 18:46it, the collapses start in the balance sheet and then end in
- 18:49the streets. They can print dollars, but they
- 18:52can't print trust. And trust.
- 18:54That's kind of like bitcoins monopoly at this point.
- 18:56Pals still talking about soft landings.
- 18:59Sorry brother, but the only thing landing soft is his job
- 19:03next spring as the 4th turning flood rolls in.
- 19:06The question is simple, do you cling to the wreckage or do you
- 19:09build an ark? Because Bitcoin is the ark, it's
- 19:12monetary. Noah's ship built one set at a
- 19:16time. So here's the take away. the Fed
- 19:18just confirmed what we already knew.
- 19:20They can't save the dollar with without destroying it.
- 19:23Sailors calling for 150K by years end.
- 19:25But we all know that's just the warm up.
- 19:27The next leg isn't about price, it's about exit velocity.
- 19:31The banks, the governments, the empires, all of it runs on
- 19:34borrowed time literally from our futures.
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