Latest / Investor Exchange / Great Eastern's Strong 1H-25 Financial Results
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08If you ever looked at a company's financial report, all those numbers,
- 0:10and just wish someone could, you know, cut through the noise and tell you what's
- 0:13really going on, well, that's exactly what we're aiming for today.
- 0:16We're doing a deep dive into Great Eastern Holdings, GEH, and their latest financials
- 0:20for the first half of 2025.
- 0:22Our plan, simple, sift through the numbers, pull out the key insights,
- 0:26figure out the why behind their performance, and maybe get a sense of what's coming next.
- 0:30We've gone through their financial summary, the media release,
- 0:33their SGX announcement, all of it.
- 0:35The goal is to give you a concise, useful overview. Ready to jump in.
- 0:39Okay, so looking at GEH for the first half of 2025, a few big numbers kind of
- 0:44jump out right away and they, well, they paint a pretty interesting picture.
- 0:47First up, their profit attributable to shareholders, it nudged up just 1%,
- 0:51hitting almost $594 million.
- 0:54That's compared to $587.1 million last year.
- 0:58So pretty modest growth there. But then, interestingly, their total comprehensive
- 1:01income, or TCI, showed a stronger growth, up 6%, reaching $761 million.
- 1:07Now, on the new business side, things look good, too. A solid 16% growth in
- 1:11new business embedded value, NBEV, which climbed to $316.5 million. Yeah.
- 1:16And what's really fascinating there, maybe even a bit confusing at first,
- 1:19is how that NBEV figure sits next to another key number, total weighted new
- 1:24sales or TWNS, because that number, which is basically a measure of sales volume,
- 1:29dropped and not just a little bit down a significant 27 percent to 708.6 million dollars.
- 1:36Just to clarify for everyone, TWS is calculated as 10% of single premium sales
- 1:41plus new regular premium sales. It's about the amount of sales.
- 1:44Whereas NBV, which you just mentioned, grew strongly.
- 1:47That measures the long-term profitability expected from those new sales.
- 1:51So you've got this situation.
- 1:52Strong growth in expected profit from new business, but a big drop in the actual
- 1:57volume of new business written.
- 2:00It raises a really key question for this deep dive, doesn't it?
- 2:02How can profitability shoot up 16% when sales volume tanks by 27%?
- 2:07This isn't just some accounting detail. It points to something strategic happening.
- 2:10We really need to unpack that.
- 2:12That's a great point. It definitely suggests there's more to the story than
- 2:14just, oh, sales are down.
- 2:15So what is the key to understanding that apparent contradiction?
- 2:19Exactly. And these sources are quite clear on this. That drop in TWNS,
- 2:23it was mainly because of lower single premium sales, particularly here in Singapore.
- 2:28But, and this is crucial, it seems it wasn't just market forces pushing sales down.
- 2:32The reports talk about a deliberate shift in product mix. The deliberate shift. Yeah.
- 2:38GEH seems to be actively adjusting what they're selling to better match what
- 2:42customers are looking for now, which seems to be more focused on longer term financial planning.
- 2:48So think of it as consciously moving away from those potentially high volume
- 2:52but often lower margin single premium products. Towards what then?
- 2:56Towards offerings that are maybe more complex, longer term, but ultimately more
- 2:59profitable. and that's what directly pumped up the NBEV margin.
- 3:03It's really a strategy focused on the quality and the long-term value of the
- 3:07business they're writing rather than just chasing sales volume.
- 3:10And honestly, this isn't unique to GEH. You see this trend across the industry,
- 3:14especially in mature markets like Singapore.
- 3:16Insurers are trying to build more sustainable, value-driven relationships.
- 3:20It might mean slower top-line sales growth sometimes, but potentially a healthier business long-term.
- 3:26Okay, that makes sense. A strategic trade-off then, quality over quantity. essentially.
- 3:31Interesting. So let's circle back to
- 3:33that overall profit attributable to shareholders, that modest 1% growth.
- 3:38You mentioned dual engines driving it. What were they? Yes, exactly.
- 3:41Two main things propped up that profit figure. First, they had a really strong
- 3:45performance from their own investments, their shareholders fund.
- 3:48Profit from that fund jumped 32%, hitting S178.5 million dollars.
- 3:54And the reason given was stronger investment performance amid broadly favorable
- 3:58market conditions. So good market timing or strategy there.
- 4:01Okay. So their investments did well. What was the second engine?
- 4:04The second was growth in their underlying insurance business. Now.
- 4:08This part needs a little unpacking because it's slightly complicated.
- 4:12If you just look at the reported number, profit from insurance business,
- 4:16it was actually down 8% to S415.2 million dollars. Down? Okay, why was that?
- 4:22Well, the reports mention specific factors like losses arising from asset liability
- 4:27mismatch and also write-downs from the revaluation of private equity holdings.
- 4:32Asset liability mismatch. Yeah. That sounds quite technical.
- 4:35Can you break that down simply? What does that actually mean for them? Sure.
- 4:38Essentially, it means the value or timing of their assets, like bonds or equities
- 4:42they hold, didn't perfectly match up with the timing or value of the liabilities
- 4:46they have the money they owe to policyholders in the future.
- 4:49It's a common headache for insurers, especially when interest rates are moving
- 4:52around or markets are volatile.
- 4:54You know, the value of your investments might zig when your payout obligations zag.
- 4:59I see. So it's more about market movements affecting balance sheet values than
- 5:02their day-to-day insurance operations. Precisely. And that's the key distinction.
- 5:06Because, as I was saying, their underlying insurance operations did show growth.
- 5:11This came from what they call disciplined and forced management,
- 5:14basically, managing their existing policies well.
- 5:16This led to improved claims experience, fewer big payouts, perhaps,
- 5:21and a lower loss component.
- 5:22So, fundamentally, the core business of managing insurance risks seems to be
- 5:27performing better, even if some accounting or market factors drag down the reported
- 5:32number, it shows operational health.
- 5:34That's a really important difference to understand separating those market fluctuations
- 5:38from the core operational strain.
- 5:40Now, we also saw that other comprehensive income, OCI, had a significant increase.
- 5:45Up 29 percent. What was driving that? Right, that OCI jump. It was mainly driven
- 5:49by mark-to-market gains on bonds.
- 5:52This happened because there was a downward shift in interest rates.
- 5:55Basically, when interest rates fall, the older bonds GEH holds,
- 5:59which pay a higher fixed interest rate, suddenly look more attractive compared
- 6:02to new bonds. So their market value goes up.
- 6:04Ah, okay. Like having a sought-after antique when only mediocre reproductions are available.
- 6:09Exactly. It creates these paper gains, these mark-to-market gains, which boost the OCI.
- 6:15It's worth noting, though, that the reports also mention these bond gains were
- 6:18partly offset by lower gains from their equity holdings compared to the previous
- 6:22year. So not all smooth sailing in the markets.
- 6:25No, definitely not. It just highlights how dynamic things are.
- 6:28Bond values up, equity gains down compared to last year.
- 6:32It affects the overall picture. OK. And if we dig just a little deeper into
- 6:36the financial statements, were there any other sort of fine print details that
- 6:39add color to this? Yeah, a couple of other points stood out.
- 6:42Their insurance service result, which is a key measure under the newer accounting
- 6:46standards, that actually increased significantly, up by almost 50 percent,
- 6:5049 percent to be precise, hitting S-614 million dollars.
- 6:54And the reason given, largely due to improved insurance revenue.
- 6:58So that reinforces the point about the underlying strength of the core insurance
- 7:02operations we just talked about. OK, that's positive.
- 7:04Anything else? Well, on the other side, other investment revenue was down 27%.
- 7:08The main culprit here was a loss on exchange differences as a result of depreciation in USD.
- 7:14Ah, currency effects. Always a factor for international companies. Indeed.
- 7:20It shows how fluctuations in the U.S. dollar can directly impact their investment
- 7:24returns reported in Singapore dollars.
- 7:27And one last detail, the net insurance financial result.
- 7:31It was still a loss, but it was a much smaller loss than the previous year,
- 7:35a significant improvement.
- 7:37This was mainly due to changes in fair value of underlying items for contracts
- 7:42with direct participation features, again, reflecting how market changes flow
- 7:45through their specific types of contracts.
- 7:47So yeah, lots of moving parts, operational improvements, market gains in some
- 7:51areas, market headwinds or currency impacts, and others.
- 7:54A complex picture. It certainly sounds complex. So putting all these numbers
- 7:58and reasons together, what does it tell us about GEH's strategy moving forward?
- 8:03How are they translating this performance into action and shareholder value?
- 8:06Well, their strategy seems pretty clear from their recent actions,
- 8:10especially around product innovation and how they're engaging with customers.
- 8:14In Singapore, for instance, they've launched a couple of really interesting new products recently.
- 8:19There's one called Great Life Multiplier. It's described as a multi-generational
- 8:23whole life plan, and they're specifically targeting the sandwich generation.
- 8:28Oh, people looking after both
- 8:30kids and parents. Yeah. That's a huge demographic with specific needs.
- 8:34Exactly. It shows they're really thinking about specific life situations.
- 8:38Then there's another one, great index income. This one's a single premium endowment plan.
- 8:43It's capital guaranteed aimed at the mass affluent, and it offers yearly payouts
- 8:48linked to an index. trying to capture that demand for safer,
- 8:52income-generating investments, perhaps.
- 8:54And it's not just product launches in Singapore, is it? I saw they're active
- 8:57in Malaysia, too. That's right.
- 8:59In Malaysia, they introduced a third medical rider earlier this year,
- 9:03and they're also building partnerships with clinics and hospitals.
- 9:07The goal seems to be enhancing health protection, but also making the actual
- 9:10experience of getting treatment smoother for customers.
- 9:13It sounds like they're trying to be more than just an insurer,
- 9:16moving towards being a partner in financial and health wellness.
- 9:18I think that's exactly it.
- 9:20And you see it in their broader customer engagement programs, too.
- 9:23Things like the Great Explorer program, which offers family bonding activities,
- 9:27or the Great Finchamp, which is
- 9:29an online game teaching financial literacy basics to primary school kids.
- 9:33Financial literacy for kids. That's quite forward thinking.
- 9:37It is. And all these things, the targeted products, the health partnerships,
- 9:40the engagement programs, they all tie back to this commitment GEH has stated.
- 9:45Meeting evolving customer needs and building those crucial long-term relationships.
- 9:49It's about embedding themselves more deeply, becoming more relevant across different
- 9:54life stages, not just at the point of sale.
- 9:56It feels like a smart long-term play. Absolutely.
- 9:59And what about the shareholders directly? Beyond the strategy,
- 10:02how's the financial health looking from their perspective? Capital strength?
- 10:06Dividends? Yeah, good question. On the capital front, the message is reassuring.
- 10:10The capital adequacy ratios for their insurance subsidiaries are reported as
- 10:14strong and, importantly, well above the minimum regulatory levels.
- 10:18That's always good to hear, especially with market volatility. Definitely.
- 10:22And then there's the dividend. They declared an interim dividend of $0.25 per share.
- 10:27Now, this is after a bonus issue, so for a fair comparison.
- 10:31That's equivalent to $0.50 per share before the bonus issue.
- 10:34And that represents an 11% increase compared to the interim dividend from the
- 10:39previous year on that pre-bonus basis.
- 10:41An 11% increase. Which is pretty decent.
- 10:43It reflects this progressive dividend payment method they adopted back in August 2023.
- 10:48The idea is to have sustainable dividend growth that aligns with their profit trends.
- 10:53And they've been delivering on that. You mentioned the 11% increase now.
- 10:56While the last two financial years saw increases of 15% and 20% respectively.
- 11:02Wow, that's a strong track record recently. It is. And increasing dividends
- 11:05consistently like this, even while navigating market ups and downs and shifting product strategy,
- 11:11it signals real management confidence in their underlying cash generation and
- 11:16their commitment to returning value to shareholders.
- 11:18That's often attractive to investors looking for income.
- 11:21And you mentioned the bonus issue. Maybe just quickly touch on that.
- 11:24It sounds like a corporate finance detail, but worth clarifying. Sure.
- 11:27It's basically a corporate action where they're issuing new shares to existing shareholders for free.
- 11:33In this case, up to about 473 million new shares expected around August 19th, 2025.
- 11:41This came out of an EGM, an extraordinary general meeting held on July 8th.
- 11:46The main technical reason seems to be facilitating the resumption of trading
- 11:50on the SGX stock exchange after a suspension.
- 11:52But the key takeaway for anyone looking at the core business is what GEH themselves emphasized.
- 11:57These corporate developments have no impact on the group's insurance business and operations.
- 12:02Okay, so it's more of a structural adjustment than something affecting their
- 12:06day-to-day insurance activities. Good to know.
- 12:08Looking ahead now, after this strategically, well, nuanced first half,
- 12:13what's the outlook for Great Eastern?
- 12:16It feels like they're walking a bit of a tightrope, balancing these market pressures
- 12:20with that long-term vision.
- 12:22I think tightrope walk is a good way to describe it, and management seems quite realistic about it.
- 12:27Their official outlook mentions expecting continued volatility in the financial markets.
- 12:32No rose-tinted glasses there. Right. They explicitly state this volatility will
- 12:37likely cause fluctuations in the mark-to-market valuation of our assets and liabilities.
- 12:42And that, in turn, will directly impact both their reported profitability and
- 12:46that total comprehensive income figure we discussed.
- 12:49But they're bracing for more ups and downs tied to the markets.
- 12:51Seems so. And they point to specific things they'll be watching very closely.
- 12:55The direction of interest rates, credit spreads, and equity prices.
- 12:58Standard market indicators. But also, crucially, their internal claims experience.
- 13:03That remains a key operational lever for them. Yeah, makes sense.
- 13:07And despite acknowledging these headwinds, it sounds like they're still pushing
- 13:10forward with their strategy.
- 13:12I saw the group CEO talking about accelerating growth.
- 13:16Absolutely. They're not just bracing for impact. They're actively working on
- 13:19their long-term growth strategy through what they call future-focused initiatives.
- 13:24What kind of initiatives are we talking about? It sounds quite broad, but strategic.
- 13:29Things like strengthening capabilities could be tech, could be people,
- 13:32expanding their reach, both in terms of markets and customer segments,
- 13:36and boosting operational resilience, making sure the foundations are solid.
- 13:41All of this, according to the CDO's message, is aimed at unlocking new growth
- 13:46opportunities, supporting innovation and building a solid foundation for sustained
- 13:50value creation in the years to come.
- 13:53So it's a clear message. Yes, the short term might be choppy due to markets,
- 13:56but we have a long term plan and we're investing to execute it.
- 14:00It shows a management team trying to look beyond the immediate noise.
- 14:03Okay, so let's try and wrap this up.
- 14:05To recap our deep dive today, it seems Great Eastern Holdings had a really complex first half in 2025.
- 14:12They showed, I think, real strategic thinking, focusing on profitable growth,
- 14:17on long-term value, even if it meant seeing sales volumes dip in some areas
- 14:22due to that deliberate product mix shift.
- 14:25Definitely. Strong underlying business performance masked by some market volatility
- 14:29and accounting effects.
- 14:30But the core seems healthy. Yeah, and a clear, forward-looking strategy,
- 14:35trying to balance those short-term market realities with their long-term goals
- 14:39around customer needs and shareholder returns.
- 14:41So maybe a final thought for you listening. As you reflect on Great Eastern's
- 14:45approach here, what does discipline management really look like when markets
- 14:48are as volatile as they are now?
- 14:50And perhaps, how could you apply some of these principles, balancing those immediate
- 14:54numbers with longer-term strategic value in your own work, your own investments,
- 14:58or even just how you approach planning?
- 15:00Something to think about. Thanks so much for joining us on the Deep Dive today.