Latest / Brian Thomas / Signal 99 - The Theetge Nothing Biscuit
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Air se the talk station.
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- 0:34Speaker 2: Welcome back to signal ninety nine. Great to have you
- 0:35Speaker 2: on this morning. Good morning, real quick, I understand you
- 0:40Speaker 2: found Waldo. You've been having to go at Aftab Purval,
- 0:42Speaker 2: who has been missing in action. Didn't even bother showing
- 0:45Speaker 2: up at Opening Day parade, and yet where was he
- 0:47Speaker 2: just the other day popped his head out of his
- 0:49Speaker 2: hole in the ground Signal ninety nine.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Well, he was raising in the transgender flag for the city,
- 0:56Speaker 1: of course he was.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Well. That reflects his priorities, and now we can on
- 1:00Speaker 2: into his priorities, which include the placing police Chief Figi
- 1:03Speaker 2: on administrative leave. And then going back and hiring a
- 1:06Speaker 2: law firm to figure out a reason why she was
- 1:09Speaker 2: placed on administrative leave. That report just came out, described
- 1:12Speaker 2: as a confidential memorandum from FBT Gibbons LLP, and they
- 1:17Speaker 2: basically decided to go, well, how many people did they
- 1:19Speaker 2: interview to do this report? Single ninety nine? How many
- 1:22Speaker 2: of first off total officers are there? There's roughly seven
- 1:25Speaker 2: hundred or so since a police officers.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Now that there's more than that, okay, But more importantly,
- 1:34Speaker 1: they interviewed people that wanted to be interviewed, right, came forward, interviewed,
- 1:42Speaker 1: and the whole thing is farcical. That is not their report,
- 1:46Speaker 1: that's just their summary. So we're never going to see
- 1:49Speaker 1: their actual report. I highly doubt we'll ever see who
- 1:53Speaker 1: actually sat down and interviewed with these people, gave their names,
- 1:59Speaker 1: and then it through you know, Chief DGI under the
- 2:02Speaker 1: bus while at the same time holding not interim chief Henny.
- 2:09Speaker 1: How great everything is now that he's there.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I found tremendous fault with that because you know,
- 2:15Speaker 2: the idea that she was placed on administratively relates to
- 2:18Speaker 2: her conduct, while the operating is since I police chief
- 2:21Speaker 2: for the one year that she was in that role.
- 2:23Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with whether someone out in
- 2:26Speaker 2: the world might have been a better chief. We can
- 2:28Speaker 2: all make arguments over who's better and who's not. And
- 2:31Speaker 2: the point I was making with regard to the total
- 2:33Speaker 2: contingent of police officers in the hundred let's say eight
- 2:35Speaker 2: hundred or roughly or whatever, they only talked to a
- 2:38Speaker 2: very small percentage of them, roughly thirty or thirty two.
- 2:41Speaker 2: They said they started with forty two witnesses, but not
- 2:44Speaker 2: all of them wanted to talk to them. Some decline
- 2:47Speaker 2: to participate or respond. So, going to your point, which
- 2:49Speaker 2: is my point, we all have opinions about our bosses.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Who among us hasn't criticized management when working in any organization,
- 2:56Speaker 2: We all have better ideas.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, and not only that, if they if they
- 3:02Speaker 1: truly wanted to be transparent, okay, why didn't they just
- 3:07Speaker 1: send out a survey to every CPD officer, every member
- 3:12Speaker 1: of the rank and file that they could have completed
- 3:15Speaker 1: anonymously and submitted their thoughts and their feelings about Chief
- 3:21Speaker 1: DG's leadership. Why didn't they do that? I mean, we
- 3:24Speaker 1: paid them enough money. They could have certainly done a
- 3:26Speaker 1: survey Monkey.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Sure so.
- 3:29Speaker 1: But my my favorite thing in that and that Barcacle
- 3:35Speaker 1: report is them saying that she she couldn't she was
- 3:44Speaker 1: unwilling to accept the help from from the state because
- 3:50Speaker 1: of the collaborative agreement. That makes that. I actually laughed
- 3:54Speaker 1: out loud at that. And then Cheryl Long's email to
- 3:58Speaker 1: the rank and file that, I mean, the whole thing
- 4:02Speaker 1: is ridiculous. It's not funny at all, but the lengths
- 4:07Speaker 1: that they went to to try to legitimize getting rid
- 4:12Speaker 1: of her, it's ridiculous. I mean, it is shameful.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Well, let's pause, We're bring Signal ninety nine back. Talk
- 4:21Speaker 2: about some of the details in this as well as
- 4:23Speaker 2: her reaction to the proposed budget. See the talk station
- 4:29Speaker 2: sixty nine fifty one Kcity talk station Right time was
- 4:31Speaker 2: a Signal ninety nine, and go to Facebook and find her,
- 4:33Speaker 2: and you should. You can read her entire breakdown and
- 4:36Speaker 2: analysis of the summary report as she emphasized this memorandum
- 4:40Speaker 2: from the law firm that was looking into the reasons
- 4:42Speaker 2: why police chief these you might have been placed on
- 4:44Speaker 2: administratively since the city didn't have one, and in astute observation,
- 4:47Speaker 2: you made Signal ninety nine. You point out right here,
- 4:50Speaker 2: over thirty five years of exemplary service to the CPD.
- 4:53Speaker 2: She has a you know, got a historical law enforcement
- 4:56Speaker 2: career Christine personnel file. No documentation, a documentation of any
- 5:02Speaker 2: type of disciplinary action against her, perfect evaluations. Never had
- 5:06Speaker 2: a single evaluation as a chief. So no, not even
- 5:09Speaker 2: an opportunity to bring this stuff to the extent there
- 5:11Speaker 2: is anything there to her attention. They let her go
- 5:14Speaker 2: and the mayor praised her, touted her several times, and
- 5:17Speaker 2: that she's doing a great job. I mean nothing, but
- 5:20Speaker 2: everything's fine up until the moment in time she's put
- 5:22Speaker 2: her on administrative leaf chief TG. What is going on
- 5:25Speaker 2: with this one? What's the politics behind this?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Well, the politics are she was sacrificed to save the
- 5:32Speaker 1: mayor and city council's reelection. Did It's just that simple.
- 5:38Speaker 1: They claim that she failed to control the violence because
- 5:42Speaker 1: of what they call the brawl downtown last July. But
- 5:48Speaker 1: you know what, the interim chief failed to control the
- 5:51Speaker 1: violence on opening day. True, And I'm not I'm not
- 5:55Speaker 1: trying to take a slam at interim chief, Henny. No,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I'm saying that these things happen. And let me tell
- 6:01Speaker 1: you what not. A single juvenile was arrested on opening day,
- 6:07Speaker 1: not one.
- 6:09Speaker 2: I thought we had a problem with juvenile crime in
- 6:11Speaker 2: the city of.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Cincinnati, Well we have a huge problem with Do.
- 6:15Speaker 2: You think that has something to do with the fact
- 6:16Speaker 2: that they don't prosecute them?
- 6:19Speaker 1: Yeah, cutting the CPD by almost seven million dollars, it's
- 6:24Speaker 1: not going to happen, Brian, I'm going to tell you
- 6:26Speaker 1: right now, there's no way it's going to happen, especially
- 6:30Speaker 1: with us rolling up in the summer.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Well, looking at the role of police chief and what
- 6:35Speaker 2: the chief is capable of doing and not capable of doing,
- 6:38Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody can blame a police chief
- 6:41Speaker 2: for unruly behavior basically a violence outbreak and along the
- 6:45Speaker 2: lines of what we saw last summer which led to
- 6:46Speaker 2: her being placed on administrative leave. What are they arguing
- 6:50Speaker 2: she should have done ahead of time that would have
- 6:54Speaker 2: maybe made that whole ridiculous crime thing disappear and not happen.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I mean, what could the chief have done?
- 7:03Speaker 1: Well, you know it all comes down to this. The
- 7:06Speaker 1: mayor platformed on defunding the police. Okay, we all know
- 7:10Speaker 1: that it's not a secret, and that's exactly what he did.
- 7:15Speaker 1: You have a bunch of community responders now, but we
- 7:18Speaker 1: don't have enough police officers. The mayor also, when he
- 7:22Speaker 1: was Clerk of Courts, sold a bunch of Democratic judges
- 7:26Speaker 1: in a judicial meeting that they would lower bail or
- 7:31Speaker 1: no bail and softball sentencing on crime or he would
- 7:36Speaker 1: have them primary. So in the report, when it says
- 7:40Speaker 1: Chief DG wanted the mayor to go to the judges
- 7:44Speaker 1: right and help fix the judicial issue, that was a
- 7:49Speaker 1: very real ask of her because he's the one that
- 7:52Speaker 1: created it. Well, he created the judicial failure that we
- 7:57Speaker 1: have right.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Now, and that is in this sort of summary report. First,
- 8:02Speaker 2: Chief DJ believe the mayor should intervene with local courts
- 8:05Speaker 2: to address sentencing for property crimes and repeat offenders. Now
- 8:08Speaker 2: I read that, and if she suggested that, I know,
- 8:11Speaker 2: and everybody with a measure of sanity or a couple
- 8:13Speaker 2: of point IQ knows that the mayor can't force a
- 8:16Speaker 2: judge during sentencing to do anything specific. That's just the
- 8:19Speaker 2: judge's sole purview. But he could suggest out loud in
- 8:23Speaker 2: a public form, using his bully pulpit, that judges need
- 8:26Speaker 2: to be harder on crime, they need to deal with
- 8:28Speaker 2: juvenile crime. They need to issue sentences or higher bonds,
- 8:32Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, treat criminals like criminals, and
- 8:35Speaker 2: serve as a message to the rest of the would
- 8:37Speaker 2: be criminal public that you're going to get caught and
- 8:39Speaker 2: you're going to be prosecuted the full extent of the law.
- 8:41Speaker 2: That is messaging. He wouldn't do that, I guess, because
- 8:44Speaker 2: it flies in the face of what he actually wants,
- 8:46Speaker 2: which is soft on crime judges.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Right, correct. But he did just do that when they
- 8:52Speaker 1: had the mass shooting down at riverfront Line. He did
- 8:54Speaker 1: come out and say, oh, this is preposterous, you know,
- 8:57Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, judges blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, okay, ten,
- 9:05Speaker 1: poor good Betty Well, don't believe.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Every day late and a dollar short. Had he gotten
- 9:12Speaker 2: ahead of this issue earlier on, he would have had
- 9:13Speaker 2: a record to stand on that he was and interested
- 9:16Speaker 2: in judges meeting out harsher sentences. I suppose.
- 9:19Speaker 1: So, oh, he's going to go down as the worst
- 9:23Speaker 1: mayor in the history of Cincinnati. I mean, well, I
- 9:27Speaker 1: think I think he's already won that. But that's just me.
- 9:31Speaker 1: I'm a little bias.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Hold on though, let us go compare that comment to
- 9:35Speaker 2: this report. You have hundreds and hundreds of police officers.
- 9:38Speaker 2: You take take about thirty of them from the largest
- 9:42Speaker 2: from the larger pool, they're going to come up with
- 9:44Speaker 2: a conclusion. You have hundreds of thousands of residents of
- 9:47Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati, who, if polled, might render the
- 9:49Speaker 2: same conclusion as you did. But if you hand pick
- 9:52Speaker 2: a small segment of the population, maybe the followers of
- 9:54Speaker 2: Iris Rolli, they're going to sing the praises of to
- 9:56Speaker 2: have per of ball. Maybe those in the LGBT community
- 9:59Speaker 2: who were for the unfurling of the transgender flag by
- 10:02Speaker 2: Mayor Aftab for of all, they're going to sing his
- 10:04Speaker 2: praise the signal ninety nine exactly.
- 10:08Speaker 1: You know, it's all cherry pick. It's blowney, Okay, it's
- 10:13Speaker 1: the whole thing is ridiculous. It is I am embarrassed
- 10:19Speaker 1: for this city that we spend almost fifty thousand dollars
- 10:23Speaker 1: on this BS investigation of cherry picked people who had
- 10:29Speaker 1: an ax to grind against Fiji, to throw her right
- 10:34Speaker 1: under the bus. Come on, put your money where your
- 10:37Speaker 1: mouth is. Release the entire investigation. Let us see it.
- 10:41Speaker 2: I think given that the report concludes that police Chief
- 10:44Speaker 2: Sigi shouldn't come back to the job. They will be
- 10:47Speaker 2: putting their money where their mouth is when she sues
- 10:49Speaker 2: them for presumably wrongful termination or loss of employment, loss
- 10:53Speaker 2: of reputation, everything. We're going to continue with Signal ninety
- 10:56Speaker 2: nine because there is a connection between the dismissal of
- 10:59Speaker 2: the case against Alex Vinsky and this whole report station
- 11:06Speaker 2: It is six forty nine. If you got KERCU talk
- 11:08Speaker 2: station bron Timas signal ninety nine breaking down the summary
- 11:13Speaker 2: report we received on Thiji's dismissal. I call it dismissal
- 11:16Speaker 2: administrative lead placement. Obviously you have a problem with it.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I did too. It's all very subjective. Just a small
- 11:23Speaker 2: number of people made it ultimately determine the fate of
- 11:25Speaker 2: Police Chief Fiji in so far as the conclusions from
- 11:27Speaker 2: this law firm. But one of the things that's involved
- 11:30Speaker 2: in this the dismissal of the Alex Stravinsky case. The
- 11:33Speaker 2: man who slapped one of the brawlers in that downtown
- 11:37Speaker 2: brawl last year just slapped him because basically it was
- 11:40Speaker 2: a self defense act. He had been attacked and molested
- 11:43Speaker 2: and beaten up a little bit before that happened. So
- 11:45Speaker 2: he got charged nonetheless, and he got charged because well,
- 11:48Speaker 2: the mayor and the city manager and Iris Rowley as
- 11:52Speaker 2: well as other council members forced the city solicitor to
- 11:55Speaker 2: charge him. They were not going to charge him. Police
- 11:58Speaker 2: Chief Thiji, the detect that were involved in the investigation
- 12:01Speaker 2: didn't see anything to charge him with. And so that
- 12:05Speaker 2: became reality yesterday when the case got dismissed. Your comments
- 12:09Speaker 2: on that signal ninety nine.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Even Connie Pillage, Yeah, who's probably the worst prosecutor we've
- 12:16Speaker 1: ever had in the history of Hamilty County, said there's
- 12:20Speaker 1: it's a nothing biscuit. We're not going to charge him.
- 12:23Speaker 1: And so what they did was they overcharged him. So
- 12:27Speaker 1: the disorderly conduct charge that they chose carried thirty days
- 12:33Speaker 1: of jail time if convicted up to thirty days. So yeah,
- 12:39Speaker 1: they promised everybody, Oh, he's going to do time. No
- 12:42Speaker 1: he's not. And here's why, because in terms, Henny's the
- 12:48Speaker 1: one that signed the charge, why the seas he refused
- 12:51Speaker 1: to sign it. The two detectives investigating the case refused
- 12:55Speaker 1: to sign it. They were fully prepared to resign that
- 12:58Speaker 1: day if they were going to be ordered to sign charges.
- 13:01Speaker 1: So Captain Henny at the time, came in and signed
- 13:05Speaker 1: the charges so that he wouldn't lose two of his
- 13:07Speaker 1: best detectives. Okay, now fast forward. How do you go
- 13:13Speaker 1: to court? Well, if Chief PG and the two detectives
- 13:17Speaker 1: are witnesses for the defense and in terim Chief Henny,
- 13:23Speaker 1: what's he going to say on the stand? Yeah, I
- 13:26Speaker 1: signed charges for a case I never investigated because I
- 13:30Speaker 1: didn't want two of my detectives to resign. I mean
- 13:34Speaker 1: he would he would if I were him and I
- 13:37Speaker 1: had to go to court on that, I'd probably plead
- 13:40Speaker 1: the fish because I mean, how do you get your
- 13:44Speaker 1: how do you worm your way out of that? You know,
- 13:47Speaker 1: it was altruistic why he did it, but he did
- 13:50Speaker 1: it anyway. He did save huge detectives.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have said no as well.
- 13:58Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If they all said no, what
- 14:01Speaker 1: was the city going to do?
- 14:03Speaker 2: I know, if the city fired them because they refused
- 14:06Speaker 2: to charge someone because there was not evidence of a crime,
- 14:09Speaker 2: then they have more lawsuits on their hands. Wouldn't they
- 14:12Speaker 2: Signal ninety nine?
- 14:14Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to have a doozy with Alex.
- 14:16Speaker 1: I can tell you that he's going to sue them
- 14:18Speaker 1: the Kingdom come and I hope he's listening, and good
- 14:23Speaker 1: luck to you, Alex. I fully expect that lawsuit to
- 14:28Speaker 1: drop probably this week.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Alex Chrunsky versus the City of Cincinnati, do you think
- 14:33Speaker 2: there'll be specifically named individuals in that one or just
- 14:35Speaker 2: the city generally speaking signal ninety nine.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Well, if I was his attorney, I would to the city,
- 14:44Speaker 1: and I would tow Dottie Johnson and Damon Lance and
- 14:48Speaker 1: Iris Rowley and the mayor. Oh, and I would go
- 14:52Speaker 1: after all of them individually too, the ones that pushed
- 14:55Speaker 1: for it the hardest and the ones that made public
- 14:59Speaker 1: announcements it this was going to happen.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Well, and you know what, wouldn't it be a beautiful
- 15:04Speaker 2: thing if that lawsuit does get filed and they get
- 15:07Speaker 2: to do discovery, they get to swear witnesses in and
- 15:10Speaker 2: depose them, and we then will find out all that
- 15:14Speaker 2: went on behind the scenes, or they'll just outright live.
- 15:16Speaker 2: But I think it would be very beneficial to the
- 15:18Speaker 2: residents of the city of Cincinnati, who know exactly how
- 15:20Speaker 2: this unfolded based on witness testimony in a civil suit.
- 15:23Speaker 2: That'd be cool.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and not to mention, Cheryl Long is awful
- 15:30Speaker 1: at deposition. He is horrendous at depositions. So I'd like
- 15:36Speaker 1: to know how you know he Fiji who never got
- 15:40Speaker 1: a review or a write up? If if her performance
- 15:43Speaker 1: was so poor, right, like I said in my article,
- 15:46Speaker 1: how come there was never a come to Jesus talk like, hey,
- 15:50Speaker 1: chief Fiji, you better get your act together. We're putting
- 15:53Speaker 1: you on a performance improvement plan or you know, a
- 15:57Speaker 1: disciplinary action. She was doing such a bad job, why
- 16:01Speaker 1: was the mayor praising her well?
- 16:03Speaker 2: And the other thing is to that point, how is
- 16:05Speaker 2: it that they needed to retain an outside law firm
- 16:07Speaker 2: to figure out that things weren't going well behind the
- 16:09Speaker 2: scenes under her administration. If they knew all that, they
- 16:13Speaker 2: wouldn't have given her pats on the back and and
- 16:14Speaker 2: and praise up until the moment in time when they
- 16:17Speaker 2: decided they need to get rid of her for political reasons.
- 16:20Speaker 2: They had nothing. They didn't even come out loud and say,
- 16:23Speaker 2: we suspect we've had lots of reports of you know,
- 16:25Speaker 2: the leadership being in terrible. She's a she's a dictator.
- 16:29Speaker 2: She doesn't listen to anybody. Nothing they could have said
- 16:32Speaker 2: that No.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, they and they didn't. It was a
- 16:38Speaker 1: nothing biscuit. Then it's a nothing biscuit now it's all
- 16:41Speaker 1: supposition and conjecture, all of it.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Okay, And what's going to come of the six point
- 16:47Speaker 2: or six million plus cut almost seven million cut from
- 16:50Speaker 2: the to the police department? Is this I don't know
- 16:53Speaker 2: it is budgeting time. Is this like a threat? I mean,
- 16:55Speaker 2: are they Are they really saying we're going to cut
- 16:57Speaker 2: police funding when we have all these different organizations, non
- 17:01Speaker 2: governmental and otherwise and stupid pet projects like green solar
- 17:05Speaker 2: arrays that they're putting money toward eight million dollars for
- 17:07Speaker 2: the Riverbend project. Can they really justify a cut to
- 17:10Speaker 2: the police Department of these trying times Signal ninety nine.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Before we part company, Absolutely not, especially coming into we're
- 17:18Speaker 1: coming into the warmer weather. The gang violence never stopped
- 17:23Speaker 1: through the winner. The juvenile violence is just starting to
- 17:27Speaker 1: kick off. It's just going to be a free for
- 17:30Speaker 1: all and the Siegic falls. We're in big trouble, big, big,
- 17:34Speaker 1: big trouble.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Well, one things for sure, we know you will be
- 17:38Speaker 2: letting us know about it before anybody in local news
- 17:40Speaker 2: will know about it. Signal ninety nine on Facebook. Thank
- 17:43Speaker 2: you for your time of late and you talk to
- 17:45Speaker 2: local media all the time. You are specifically cited by
- 17:48Speaker 2: local media. You are a powerful influence of the city
- 17:50Speaker 2: of Cincinnati and I'm glad to have access to a
- 17:52Speaker 2: conversation with you. I know my listeners are as well.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Thanks again,