Latest / Dos Amigos / Wilmer & Freddy vs. The Machine
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- 0:10Speaker 1: All right, this is Wilmer Valderrama. This is Freddy Rodriguez.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Welcome to Dos Amigos, where all your dreams do come true.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Where all your dreams come true.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Freddy, our producer, Leo Clem, is pushing us to do
- 0:25Speaker 2: some fake chemistry small chat.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Uh-huh. He wants us to kind of, I don't know,
- 0:32Speaker 1: chitty chat.
- 0:33Speaker 2: And catch up since the last couple of weeks.
- 0:36Speaker 1: We have some repeats on our fee. I see. I see.
- 0:40Speaker 1: And I think he feels.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Or perhaps he's making a terrible assumption, that our audiences
- 0:47Speaker 2: are very excited to find out where we were in
- 0:50Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Yes. I hate to report that it's going to be
- 0:55Speaker 1: quite underwhelming, but... You started your show again, right? Oh,
- 1:00Speaker 1: that's looking at you, looking at the bright side. No, congratulations.
- 1:04Speaker 1: What season? Thank you, man. We're in season 24. But
- 1:07Speaker 1: this is your... My 10th season. Oh, come on. We
- 1:11Speaker 1: got to celebrate that. Year 10, man. We got to
- 1:13Speaker 1: celebrate that. I'm very proud of that. I'm very excited.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I love the show. How does it feel to be.
- 1:18Speaker 3: 10 years.
- 1:19Speaker 2: On this crazy- And also, I just crossed 200 episodes too,
- 1:22Speaker 2: so that's kind of crazy.
- 1:24Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm.
- 1:26Speaker 2: So grateful to be able to keep the light on
- 1:28Speaker 2: with the shit that I love.
- 1:29Speaker 3: You're like in the pantheon of actors. You've reached this
- 1:34Speaker 3: rare space in the TV world. Yeah, it's like when
- 1:38Speaker 3: you enter the Matrix.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Is that what it feels like like the Matrix you're
- 1:43Speaker 1: just like somehow they're recycling.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Your your you know Wilmer into shows but I'm no.
- 1:49Speaker 3: But 10 seasons here 10 seasons on your other show
- 1:53Speaker 3: yeah I mean come on what other.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Actor could match that no I'm very I'm very grateful
- 1:57Speaker 2: I mean it's it's kind of insane to think about
- 1:59Speaker 2: it but but yeah no I'm having fun we started
- 2:01Speaker 2: the show back up and uh You know, we premiered
- 2:06Speaker 2: October 6th and, you know, new vibes, new things, new themes,
- 2:10Speaker 2: and we're having a lot of fun.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:12Speaker 2: My character goes through some crazy stuff, episode three, two,
- 2:15Speaker 2: so that's exciting.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Like what?
- 2:18Speaker 2: Well, my character has been itching to get out of
- 2:23Speaker 2: the cold body business. And he was built to intersect
- 2:30Speaker 2: the bad guys before they do the bad stuff.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:34Speaker 2: And so there's a cage animal in him that wants
- 2:38Speaker 2: to go back and do the things that he used
- 2:40Speaker 2: to do, which.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Were brutal, right?
- 2:42Speaker 2: So in episode three, we go back in time and
- 2:44Speaker 2: we see like, you know, what Torres used to be
- 2:48Speaker 2: like before he joined the NCIS team.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool. And it's gnarly. Yeah.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Like.
- 2:55Speaker 2: To the point where they'll play back like archives of
- 2:58Speaker 2: me undercover and all that in my, in my existing
- 3:00Speaker 2: crew of NCIS was like, I like that.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah. This can't be Taurus.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Because the stuff that they see me do completely changes
- 3:10Speaker 2: the paradigm of my character for the season in their eyes,
- 3:13Speaker 2: in their hearts. They're like, who is really torres you
- 3:17Speaker 2: know right so anyway so it made it really fun
- 3:19Speaker 2: we had a great guest star michael malley who's just
- 3:23Speaker 2: awesome yeah michael malley a great comedian had his own
- 3:27Speaker 2: show amazing writer yeah you know really really gifted actor
- 3:32Speaker 2: and we had a blast together and he played like
- 3:35Speaker 2: an old school friend you know and i don't want
- 3:38Speaker 2: to give away too much but.
- 3:39Speaker 3: How does it work and Do you go in and
- 3:42Speaker 3: do you discuss your character arc before every season?
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yeah, we try to, you know, kind of gather, come
- 3:48Speaker 2: together and say, what are the themes this season?
- 3:51Speaker 1: So every year, and I.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Think it's one of the things, one of the important
- 3:56Speaker 2: factors and exercises that I embrace at the beginning of
- 4:00Speaker 2: every season, it's just to try to make sure that
- 4:02Speaker 2: the character doesn't get stale for me. You know, I
- 4:06Speaker 2: want it to stay new for me. So every season
- 4:09Speaker 2: we come up with a theme. And we're entering wild tourists.
- 4:13Speaker 4: I like that.
- 4:14Speaker 1: That's great. It's fun. Did you pitch that idea? Yeah.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But also some great writers came forward immediately. They're like,
- 4:20Speaker 2: I want to put wood in that fire. So they
- 4:22Speaker 2: wrote some amazing episodes.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So we're doing good there. Do you still feel challenged
- 4:29Speaker 1: after 10 years? It's interesting. It's a great question.
- 4:33Speaker 2: It's actually a really provocative question because I don't want
- 4:37Speaker 2: to come across as... cynical or or or too pretentious
- 4:42Speaker 2: that i'm so good at doing this thing right but
- 4:46Speaker 2: but playing a character for over 200 plus episodes and
- 4:49Speaker 2: doing it for 10 years gives you a certain level
- 4:51Speaker 2: of strength and effortlessness and i think that um i'm
- 4:56Speaker 2: entering that like 10 000 hour people talk about with
- 4:58Speaker 2: this character you know yeah and um And it's fun,
- 5:03Speaker 2: you know, so I guess what I would say is
- 5:06Speaker 2: I'm still enjoying it because we can find these different
- 5:10Speaker 2: areas that we can kind of filter through. But you
- 5:12Speaker 2: know how it is. You play something, you know, for
- 5:16Speaker 2: a while. Well, I've never done 10 seasons. Yeah, but
- 5:19Speaker 2: you played a character that's like locked in a courtroom.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
- 5:23Speaker 2: And like you're just doing the ground hot day, but
- 5:25Speaker 2: you got to find what's new for you and your
- 5:28Speaker 2: character about the the thing that you're presented, right? So
- 5:32Speaker 2: you can make it a performance that finds its way
- 5:35Speaker 2: in different, you know, hemispheres, you know, so.
- 5:38Speaker 1: That's wonderful, man. Yeah, but it's fun. It's fun.
- 5:41Speaker 2: I mean, I'm having a really good time, you know,
- 5:43Speaker 2: and like, we'll see what happens and, you know. Well,
- 5:44Speaker 2: you just said, I'm having a good time.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I'm having a good time. That's wonderful to hear.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And, you know, this season is fun. We're having a
- 5:52Speaker 2: good time. But, so that's the one thing. And, you know,
- 5:56Speaker 2: I'm developing a couple of, you know, sizable projects that
- 6:00Speaker 2: are looking very good and yeah let's just say it's
- 6:02Speaker 2: building some of the our common love you know oh
- 6:07Speaker 2: yeah yeah okay okay we'll see how we see how
- 6:11Speaker 2: it goes yes yes yes but yeah but other than
- 6:13Speaker 2: that i mean you know traveling here and there for
- 6:16Speaker 2: work and all that stuff and just you know like
- 6:18Speaker 2: chasing a one-year-old now you know so that's going very
- 6:20Speaker 2: good where.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Is he He's upstairs. I want to see him. Bro,
- 6:25Speaker 1: we shaved the size of his head. Yeah, yeah. Like
- 6:29Speaker 1: your hair? Well, he's got a little bit of a mullet. Yeah.
- 6:32Speaker 1: So he looks like a soccer player. He's got a mulletino. Mulletino. Yeah. Yeah,
- 6:38Speaker 1: he looks aggressive, dude. He looks aggressive.
- 6:41Speaker 4: For a one-year-old.
- 6:42Speaker 2: For a one-year-old, he's doing big things, you know. But
- 6:45Speaker 2: my mom hates it. Everyone hates that haircut.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Everyone's like, what did you do? The mullet? Yeah, I'm like,
- 6:52Speaker 1: it looks good. He's like, he's what? Because his hair
- 6:55Speaker 1: is so nice that they just like let him go
- 6:56Speaker 1: or whatever.
- 6:57Speaker 2: But he looks awesome. He's doing really great. I'm kind
- 7:00Speaker 2: of doing awesome.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Good. What about you, man? I'm good, man.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Good.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Just plugging away.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I'm also hoping to announce some really cool stuff.
- 7:12Speaker 2: It's crazy for me to be sitting on that and
- 7:14Speaker 2: hear you say that and be like, we want.
- 7:17Speaker 1: To tell everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, God willing.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been working on something that, oh my God,
- 7:25Speaker 3: I just can't wait to tell people. But I just
- 7:29Speaker 3: feel so blessed that, and you know, it's wonderful when
- 7:34Speaker 3: you see the fruits of your labor, Right. And you
- 7:36Speaker 3: put so much time and effort into something and you
- 7:39Speaker 3: see it all kind of coming into fruition. But I'm
- 7:43Speaker 3: certainly putting in the work and it's something that I've
- 7:45Speaker 3: never done before. And it's and it's flexing this other
- 7:49Speaker 3: muscle that I've never really flexed before.
- 7:52Speaker 1: So it's exciting.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:55Speaker 3: I'm hoping that by the time this episode like like
- 7:58Speaker 3: what you're going to announce, it'll be ready to to
- 8:02Speaker 3: say something.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Right.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Right.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I mean, for y'all listening to this at home, sitting
- 8:10Speaker 2: on what I'm sitting on here is with, with Freddie
- 8:14Speaker 2: is really exciting because it's, and you know, it gets
- 8:17Speaker 2: annoying when we're like, Oh, it's so cool.
- 8:19Speaker 1: But we can say, so we will just, we'll just
- 8:20Speaker 1: stop it there.
- 8:21Speaker 2: But, but we were excited to bring you guys along
- 8:24Speaker 2: in our journey and, and at the, you know, wondrous
- 8:27Speaker 2: way in which our careers are kind of growing in
- 8:29Speaker 2: different places in different directions, you know, but, But.
- 8:32Speaker 1: You were in London, right? Didn't you... Did we talk
- 8:34Speaker 1: about Bad Bunny in London already? Did we do that?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Bad Bunny in London. Bad Bunny, ba-ba. You just went
- 8:40Speaker 1: back to London. You went back. Yeah, I went back. Yeah,
- 8:42Speaker 1: I was there. We went on vacation the first time.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Are you playing... Are you going to be the new
- 8:47Speaker 1: James Bond? Yes. Is that why you keep going to
- 8:50Speaker 1: London for the secret meetings? That's the announcement. That's the announcement.
- 8:54Speaker 1: That's the announcement. No, no, no.
- 8:58Speaker 3: I'm looking to do a project out there and I'm just.
- 9:03Speaker 3: I've just been setting the groundwork and setting the foundation
- 9:06Speaker 3: for it, which has been really interesting. I've been really exploring,
- 9:13Speaker 3: getting educated on this whole sort of AI thing.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I'd be interested in hearing your take.
- 9:20Speaker 3: It's so new to me, and I know that it's
- 9:23Speaker 3: been pretty controversial out there.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of ethical dilemmas. There's a lot of....
- 9:32Speaker 2: There's a lot of doomsday predictions with this AI thing.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Where do you stand on it?
- 9:44Speaker 2: Where are you at with it?
- 9:47Speaker 3: Look, I really don't know too much about it to
- 9:50Speaker 3: have this full opinion about it. But from what I've
- 9:53Speaker 3: seen in terms of how it pertains to our work,
- 9:57Speaker 3: the way that I've been seeing it used is the
- 10:00Speaker 3: same way as like the effects was before, right? I
- 10:05Speaker 3: think that every generation has had its evolution in film, right?
- 10:09Speaker 3: Whether it's went from silent to talkies, right? Whether it
- 10:14Speaker 3: was sort of the George Lucas generation in the 70s,
- 10:18Speaker 3: or when VFX came in in the 90s and 2000s.
- 10:22Speaker 3: And I think that every generation, our industry has its
- 10:25Speaker 3: evolution of technology.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And I think that if it evolves that.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Way and it's done in a way that's ethical and
- 10:32Speaker 3: respectful and follows in line with what those evolutions are,
- 10:36Speaker 3: then that's the natural progression of things.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And we can't stop that in our industry, right?
- 10:41Speaker 3: And from what I've seen, my trips to London and
- 10:45Speaker 3: other places, It's being used that way. It's being used
- 10:48Speaker 3: in the way that VFX is being used with the
- 10:51Speaker 3: same amount of people, with the same amount of work,
- 10:54Speaker 3: almost like with the same execution has been very, very
- 10:58Speaker 3: similar to what I've seen.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Do you think, I mean, it's like, because the big
- 11:02Speaker 2: question is like, oh, right now it's a tool. Right
- 11:05Speaker 2: now it's an enhancing tool to get you either farther,
- 11:09Speaker 2: to get you even, or get you there faster. Or
- 11:15Speaker 2: to even be more in detail with the capabilities of
- 11:20Speaker 2: how you can describe and create. And really, really picture
- 11:27Speaker 2: what's in your head and actually make it a reality
- 11:29Speaker 2: in a way that's exactly how you saw it in
- 11:31Speaker 2: your brain. So it's kind of bridging the gaps between
- 11:36Speaker 2: interpretation and actual picture. And so the big fear is
- 11:42Speaker 2: that it's going to go from there. to then a
- 11:45Speaker 2: complete takeover of creative license and creative agency. And if
- 11:49Speaker 2: they create agency, which, by the way, there's a lot
- 11:51Speaker 2: of reports saying that a lot of these AI agents
- 11:57Speaker 2: have been kind of bonded together and breaking out of
- 11:59Speaker 2: an actual system and penetrating a different one. It's kind
- 12:06Speaker 2: of crazy to think that AI is kind of breathing
- 12:08Speaker 2: on that level.
- 12:09Speaker 1: But do you fear that? Do you feel like is
- 12:12Speaker 1: that a concern you have?
- 12:15Speaker 3: Well, if the experts are saying they're concerned about it,
- 12:18Speaker 3: then I think that we should be concerned about it, right?
- 12:20Speaker 1: If there's already.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Data that shows that AI is doing that, then yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 1: We should be concerned about it.
- 12:27Speaker 3: I've been concentrating more on sort of the film side
- 12:30Speaker 3: and what it looks like from the film side and
- 12:33Speaker 3: how to be involved in this new generation and this
- 12:38Speaker 3: new wave of evolution, you know, And I think that
- 12:43Speaker 3: the perception is you just type the prompt in and then.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Voila, you have this movie.
- 12:49Speaker 3: But the stuff that I've seen behind closed doors is
- 12:52Speaker 3: very much not that. It's very much the amount of work,
- 12:57Speaker 3: the amount of people that you would see in a
- 13:01Speaker 3: VFX studio somewhere. But in terms of what you're saying, yeah, man,
- 13:06Speaker 3: that's freaking scary. And that must be even scarier for you, right?
- 13:09Speaker 3: You have this whole new generation of kids and, and
- 13:12Speaker 3: that's the stuff that they're going to have to be
- 13:14Speaker 3: dealing with.
- 13:15Speaker 1: And yeah. And how does that, how does that manifest into,
- 13:19Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy because we're not even thinking about
- 13:21Speaker 1: it right now.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Right.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Like it's a, we're just so worried about changing diapers
- 13:24Speaker 2: and like feeding them and put them to sleep that
- 13:26Speaker 2: we were forgetting that they're about to enter an entire reality.
- 13:29Speaker 2: That's it's they're going to be their own personal Nios
- 13:32Speaker 2: in the matrix. And now we talk about the name,
- 13:34Speaker 2: the matrix that they're going to enter the matrix.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Yeah. But look, also it becomes a.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Situation where now AI is learning you in ways that
- 13:43Speaker 2: you don't know yourself. It almost can eventually predict what
- 13:49Speaker 2: your outlook on things can be based on the historical
- 13:53Speaker 2: recording of not just opinion, but how your opinion has
- 13:56Speaker 2: changed over time.
- 13:57Speaker 1: So it becomes so comprehensive.
- 13:59Speaker 2: So it poses the question, how well does AI know
- 14:05Speaker 2: you now?
- 14:06Speaker 1: Right.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It's kind of intense to think about that.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I've never used it. Leo Clem. Yeah. Have you used
- 14:13Speaker 1: it in that way? I used it to ask, like,
- 14:16Speaker 1: for example, like, I put myself as the actor. Yeah.
- 14:19Speaker 2: And then I remove myself from the actor and become
- 14:22Speaker 2: the producer.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 14:23Speaker 2: So then I have AI assist me in the perception
- 14:27Speaker 2: of how this actor versus the role versus.
- 14:32Speaker 1: The genre, like, how would it perform for audiences?
- 14:35Speaker 2: And it gives you this comprehensive explanation on why Wilmer
- 14:39Speaker 2: Valderrama would make the most sense in XY vehicle based
- 14:45Speaker 2: on his expertise and he's traveling with the military or whatever.
- 14:48Speaker 2: It'll create this hypothesis that says this is the best
- 14:51Speaker 2: way to continue to sell your art.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Wow. So it's crazy stuff like that, right? It's crazy.
- 14:57Speaker 2: But Leo, how do you feel about AI and how
- 15:03Speaker 2: do we put AI to the test?
- 15:05Speaker 4: Well, I got a little game for y'all. Oh, a game.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:10Speaker 4: Um, I did a little digging with AI.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Okay.
- 15:14Speaker 4: Dropped your names in AI and see what they predict
- 15:16Speaker 4: about you.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Oh.
- 15:17Speaker 1: And when you say, what do you mean? Like, I'm
- 15:19Speaker 1: going to sound like an old man here. What do
- 15:23Speaker 1: you mean?
- 15:24Speaker 3: Like, like when you go on Google and then it
- 15:25Speaker 3: says AI assist on the bottom and then you press that.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So I mean, I've used it.
- 15:30Speaker 5: Wilmer and I were chatting earlier and it's, it's, There's
- 15:33Speaker 5: a statistic saying three in four Americans now use some
- 15:35Speaker 5: sort of major AI tool.
- 15:37Speaker 4: And Wilmer made a good point.
- 15:39Speaker 5: That things like that with Google, AI is integrated into
- 15:42Speaker 5: so many things we don't even realize these days.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Shopping, search engines.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Or even when you're on your computer, like Grammarly. That's
- 15:49Speaker 3: a form of AI, right?
- 15:51Speaker 1: Like Grammarly collecting your grammar.
- 15:54Speaker 5: A lot of editing tools for social media posts, things
- 15:57Speaker 5: like that.
- 15:57Speaker 4: There's AI everywhere. But I use ChatGPT.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Do you?
- 16:03Speaker 5: Well, for this, I made a little game and I said, hey, ChachiBT,
- 16:07Speaker 5: let's predict what Wilmer and Freddie could be up to.
- 16:11Speaker 4: And let's see if they're kind of on the... Don't
- 16:15Speaker 4: look at your paper.
- 16:18Speaker 5: Since you asked me to step in, I'm going to
- 16:19Speaker 5: read them to you and you guys discuss if AI
- 16:22Speaker 5: got it right or wrong.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Oh, man. All right.
- 16:24Speaker 4: So we'll start with you, Freddie. Yeah. What does Freddie's
- 16:27Speaker 4: perfect day look like? AI said. No alarm. Great breakfast.
- 16:33Speaker 4: Something outside. No unnecessary meetings. Good dinner. Drinks and stories.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Some of that. Yeah. I mean, you know,
- 16:43Speaker 1: when I'm not working, I naturally just get up early,
- 16:45Speaker 1: you know. But you have an alarm? You set up
- 16:50Speaker 1: an alarm? Not when I'm not working, no. That's crazy.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Unless there's a reason for it. I mean, you, dude,
- 16:55Speaker 1: you have like... If you're not working, you're still working. No,
- 16:58Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fact that AI says no alarm. Oh,
- 17:02Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, definitely some outdoor stuff.
- 17:05Speaker 3: I've sent you photos of me on my electric bike
- 17:10Speaker 3: trying to get warmer to charge his up too so
- 17:14Speaker 3: he can come.
- 17:16Speaker 1: With me. What else did it say?
- 17:18Speaker 4: No unnecessary meetings. Good dinner.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely good dinner.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Great breakfast.
- 17:24Speaker 1: No, I don't do, I only eat once a day. So, yeah. Awkward. Wrong.
- 17:33Speaker 2: AI, you made an assumption about him being a human
- 17:35Speaker 2: being that he's eating three times a day.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when I'm training hard, I'll eat more
- 17:41Speaker 1: than once a day. Oh, maybe he did get it right. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:45Speaker 5: Wilmer, yours is early morning, coffee, workout, breakfast with the family,
- 17:51Speaker 5: something creative, Big dinner with family and friends, tequila, and music.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Damn.
- 17:58Speaker 4: Tequila.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean. Some Casa Dragones.
- 18:07Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you, Casa Dragones brought to you
- 18:10Speaker 2: by iHeart, you know? Because iHeart has a connection with
- 18:14Speaker 2: Casa Dragones.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Oh, do they really? Oh, yeah. Nice. Our head and
- 18:19Speaker 1: CEO owns Casa Dragones. What? I didn't know that.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why he gifts this, you know, not to us,
- 18:26Speaker 2: but to other people. You?
- 18:27Speaker 1: No, I didn't get one from him. Not me. I
- 18:29Speaker 1: didn't get it from him. Dude, okay, that's not, let
- 18:33Speaker 1: me see.
- 18:35Speaker 5: Early morning coffee workout, breakfast with family, something creative.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
- 18:38Speaker 4: Big dinner with family, friends, tequila, music.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Big dinner with friends, it's a little outdated. Like I
- 18:45Speaker 2: used to have to. I remember we used to put
- 18:48Speaker 2: a dinner together with so many people and just gather
- 18:51Speaker 2: everyone and talk and hang out and whatever. Dude loved tequila.
- 18:56Speaker 2: But that's such a specific thing. Big dinner with friends, tequila,
- 18:59Speaker 2: and music.
- 19:02Speaker 1: That was who I was, baby. Now I'm a daddy.
- 19:07Speaker 1: That was you in the 2000s.
- 19:09Speaker 4: All right, let's move on. Biggest pet peeve. We'll start
- 19:13Speaker 4: with Wilmer. People who show up unprepared and waste everyone
- 19:17Speaker 4: else's time.
- 19:17Speaker 2: That's so specific, but so right on. That's so right on.
- 19:24Speaker 2: It's not just about showing up. It's about wanting to
- 19:27Speaker 2: be there. And if you want to be there, you're
- 19:30Speaker 2: going to do your homework. You're going to prepare. You're
- 19:34Speaker 2: there to enjoy it because your preparation sets you free.
- 19:39Speaker 1: So if you... Yeah, that's a big pet peeve of mine.
- 19:44Speaker 2: People coming in and just like coming in late and
- 19:47Speaker 2: then just like winging it or like just.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Just, you know, I don't know.
- 19:51Speaker 2: I've struggled with that with some employees in my company,
- 19:55Speaker 2: especially like the head of our podcast division.
- 19:57Speaker 1: He's lazy as hell. That guy.
- 19:59Speaker 5: All right, this episode of Dos Amigos is now over.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
- 20:07Speaker 2: No, but he's the hardest working guy in my entire company.
- 20:11Speaker 2: He's an asset.
- 20:13Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a leader. But anyways, so I kind of
- 20:17Speaker 1: agree with that.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:18Speaker 1: What about Freddie?
- 20:19Speaker 4: People who take themselves too seriously.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Oh. No, that's... Because I take my... I feel generic, right?
- 20:27Speaker 1: Pretty seriously. Yeah.
- 20:29Speaker 2: I feel like AI just was very generic on that one.
- 20:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:34Speaker 1: All right.
- 20:35Speaker 3: But what do you think it means, people who take
- 20:37Speaker 3: themselves too seriously?
- 20:39Speaker 1: Like, what does that mean?
- 20:40Speaker 4: Doesn't know how to cut a rug.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Or, I mean, yeah, I don't think you're wrong, but
- 20:46Speaker 2: I also think people take themselves too seriously are the
- 20:48Speaker 2: people that like to hear themselves.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Talk so much. Oh, right. Oh, I see what you're saying.
- 20:53Speaker 2: You know, like they just like won't let other people
- 20:55Speaker 2: share because they're just like, I mean, like what I'm
- 20:58Speaker 2: saying is really important.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Anyway, maybe that's one element. Yeah.
- 21:04Speaker 4: All right, another one.
- 21:05Speaker 5: What compliment means the most to Wilmer? Being told he's
- 21:11Speaker 5: a good father, partner, or friend. Not that he's talented.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Talented is a self-validating thing. I know
- 21:20Speaker 2: that I'm talented.
- 21:21Speaker 1: I don't need to be told.
- 21:22Speaker 2: I don't need to be told that I'm talented because
- 21:24Speaker 2: if I wasn't, I couldn't keep this light on.
- 21:26Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's true.
- 21:27Speaker 2: But I will say talent is also a consequence of
- 21:30Speaker 2: hours of perfection, of craft or whatever that makes your
- 21:34Speaker 2: job sustainable.
- 21:36Speaker 1: It's mathematical for me. Talent, it's math. It's science. It's
- 21:40Speaker 1: not luck. It's not a compliment.
- 21:43Speaker 2: I think talent means that you've done the work to
- 21:46Speaker 2: be good at what you said you were.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Going to do for a living. That's the way I
- 21:49Speaker 1: look at talent.
- 21:50Speaker 2: Talent to me is a consequence of preparation. So preparation,
- 21:54Speaker 2: you don't get a medal for being prepared. That's what
- 21:58Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. This is what you do for
- 22:00Speaker 2: a living. But wait, so will we meet that again?
- 22:06Speaker 4: Being told he's a good father, partner, or friend.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:10Speaker 2: I put a lot of value in like how I
- 22:12Speaker 2: show up for people. So I guess it would mean
- 22:14Speaker 2: a lot to me, but I don't need it. I
- 22:17Speaker 2: don't need people telling me that I'm a good friend.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Whatever.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Not because I don't like hearing it, but because I,
- 22:23Speaker 2: you don't do it with the expectation that someone's going
- 22:25Speaker 2: to be like, Oh man, let me tell you about world.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:28Speaker 2: For the praise. I don't care about that. Like you
- 22:30Speaker 2: just got to show up when you need it.
- 22:32Speaker 1: You know, Freddie.
- 22:34Speaker 4: That people feel comfortable being themselves around him.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Um, Sure. Yeah, I guess so. I like for people
- 22:44Speaker 1: to just be themselves. But also you create an environment.
- 22:49Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's super interesting because you are
- 22:54Speaker 2: a very disarming, very humble, very respectful human being, but
- 22:58Speaker 2: you also create an environment where people can feel like
- 23:03Speaker 2: they are important to you. And that they're being listened
- 23:08Speaker 2: and then being heard and they're being connected to. So therefore,
- 23:13Speaker 2: it allows for them to bring their best. So I
- 23:16Speaker 2: think definitely.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.
- 23:18Speaker 2: That's so specific, but I think it's really good.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Yeah, that is specific. Yeah. Do you feel flattered by that? Flattered?
- 23:26Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that thing. I don't
- 23:29Speaker 1: know why I feel bad. Of course, does it say
- 23:33Speaker 1: how gullible I am on there as well? Wilmer always
- 23:37Speaker 1: gets me. What's the next one? Wait, do you feel
- 23:41Speaker 1: that's pretty good about you? Yeah, yeah.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I think it's a Midwest thing. I just like for
- 23:48Speaker 3: people to be themselves. I don't like when people.
- 23:53Speaker 1: are pretending or.
- 23:54Speaker 3: They're putting on a show or they're like, he's just like, chill,
- 23:57Speaker 3: just be yourself.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Just be cool. You know, as long as you're cool,
- 24:01Speaker 1: I'm cool. But you lead with examples.
- 24:03Speaker 2: If you, if you create that for yourself, people feel
- 24:06Speaker 2: that they have the license to do the same.
- 24:08Speaker 1: So I think that's, I don't know, for me it tracks. Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:11Speaker 1: I guess so. And I guess I, cause I don't
- 24:13Speaker 1: think of it that way.
- 24:14Speaker 3: It's just, it's just so inherent as to who I am,
- 24:17Speaker 3: you know, that I don't think of it that way. Wow.
- 24:21Speaker 1: What's the next one?
- 24:22Speaker 4: That's a, That's all we got, but I got a
- 24:23Speaker 4: different game for you.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Oh.
- 24:26Speaker 5: So this one, we figure out if one of you
- 24:30Speaker 5: knows the other person better than AI does.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Oh, snap.
- 24:35Speaker 4: So I'll ask a question.
- 24:37Speaker 5: And for example, I'll ask a question to you, Wilmer,
- 24:41Speaker 5: about Freddy.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:42Speaker 5: And you answer it. And then I'll say AI's response.
- 24:45Speaker 5: And then Freddy gets to decide who answered it better.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Oh, damn. So you got the AI answer.
- 24:51Speaker 4: I have the AI answer.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Okay.
- 24:52Speaker 4: But keep it short and sweet.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 24:54Speaker 4: AI's answer is pretty short and to the point.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Okay, great, great, great, great, great.
- 24:57Speaker 4: We can't have an elaborate one in a very.
- 24:58Speaker 1: No, no, no, sure. Because the more elaborate, the less
- 25:01Speaker 1: you really know.
- 25:01Speaker 4: I guess so. All right.
- 25:04Speaker 1: All right.
- 25:05Speaker 4: Okay. We'll start with Freddie. You'll answer this about Wilmer.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:11Speaker 4: What would Wilmer actually do with a completely free Saturday?
- 25:14Speaker 1: Okay.
- 25:17Speaker 3: I think Wilmer wouldn't know what to do with himself
- 25:19Speaker 3: with a completely free Saturday.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I'm surprised when I see this guy.
- 25:23Speaker 3: I'm surprised when I get DMs from him on it.
- 25:29Speaker 3: I'm like, how does Wilmer even have time to send
- 25:32Speaker 3: me a DM?
- 25:33Speaker 2: I come across something funny or constructive or inspiring.
- 25:37Speaker 1: I'm like, Freddie! I'm going to send it to Freddie. Yeah.
- 25:40Speaker 3: And I think it's wonderful because that means that you
- 25:42Speaker 3: have a moment to like- And I'm thinking about you, man.
- 25:46Speaker 3: You have a moment to entertain yourself. I think if
- 25:49Speaker 3: Wilmer had a free Saturday, I just think you'd do
- 25:52Speaker 3: something with your kids is what I think. I think
- 25:55Speaker 3: you'd take your kids somewhere, you'd do something with your family.
- 25:59Speaker 3: You're such a family dude that I think any free
- 26:02Speaker 3: moment that you have goes towards the munchkins upstairs.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd happen.
- 26:09Speaker 5: AI's response, plan to do nothing and somehow turn it
- 26:12Speaker 5: into a productive day.
- 26:16Speaker 1: I mean, it's your first answer.
- 26:17Speaker 4: It was kind of your answer.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Your first answer, right?
- 26:20Speaker 2: Cause I, weekends I'll sneak in a call or two.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, I'm like, okay, you know, they're, uh,
- 26:28Speaker 1: they're in the pool playing right now. I'm going to
- 26:30Speaker 1: send an email real quick.
- 26:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. All right. That's crazy. So then they're
- 26:36Speaker 1: both right.
- 26:39Speaker 4: I'll give a point to you and AI.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Okay. Half a point.
- 26:42Speaker 4: Half a point.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:44Speaker 5: Um, same question. what would Freddy actually do with a
- 26:48Speaker 5: complete free Saturday?
- 26:49Speaker 1: Oh, he'd go on an electric bike ride. That's true.
- 26:55Speaker 2: I think he looks at a Saturday. The air is nice.
- 26:58Speaker 2: The sun is crisp. And, you know, he has 100%
- 27:02Speaker 2: charge in his battery.
- 27:04Speaker 1: His bike stays plugged. And then he's.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Going to roll out and take a long trail all
- 27:10Speaker 2: the way to probably Malibu and bring it back.
- 27:14Speaker 1: And that's what he would do.
- 27:16Speaker 5: AI's response, make no plan and somehow end up having
- 27:19Speaker 5: a better day than everyone who did.
- 27:22Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Okay. Pretty, pretty, pretty general.
- 27:27Speaker 4: Pretty generic.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:29Speaker 5: AI is generic with these ones. Let's ask two more
- 27:33Speaker 5: for each of you. What would, Freddie, what would Wilmer
- 27:39Speaker 5: tell his 25 year old self?
- 27:42Speaker 1: Oh, oh man. Well, I knew you back then. Yes,
- 27:46Speaker 1: I know. I was trying to think. Would you tell
- 27:49Speaker 1: your 25-year-old? Get off the mic.
- 27:54Speaker 4: No.
- 27:56Speaker 3: What I recall about you at that age, I mean,
- 28:01Speaker 3: we're all 25, so we're doing what 25-year-olds are doing.
- 28:05Speaker 3: What I recall about you at that age was that
- 28:08Speaker 3: you were just as driven as you are now. obviously
- 28:13Speaker 3: it took you the time that it took you to
- 28:14Speaker 3: get to where you're at now. So I think that
- 28:16Speaker 3: you would tell your younger self to keep going, that
- 28:20Speaker 3: you're going to get there. But I remember you always
- 28:23Speaker 3: having aspirations to produce and to have a company. I
- 28:28Speaker 3: remember one time, I think you were around that age.
- 28:32Speaker 3: You had called me and it was something that you
- 28:35Speaker 3: were doing or something that you were putting together. I
- 28:37Speaker 3: don't know if it would even.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Qualify as producing but it was a form of producing
- 28:44Speaker 3: and it was something and it was around that time
- 28:45Speaker 3: so I I don't remember what.
- 28:47Speaker 2: It was was it the Voto Latino PSA short films
- 28:50Speaker 2: maybe it was something like that it was something like
- 28:52Speaker 2: that because Rosario and I were like let's do these
- 28:54Speaker 2: mini movies and tell people to go register to vote
- 28:57Speaker 2: that might have been it and it was like a
- 28:58Speaker 2: West Side Story type of like thing and then we
- 29:01Speaker 2: did a different one that was like movies little tiny movies.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Yeah it was interesting but I remember we would have
- 29:06Speaker 3: our conversations and you were always doing a little something
- 29:09Speaker 3: like that you know So now that I see what
- 29:12Speaker 3: you're doing now, it tracks.
- 29:14Speaker 1: It makes sense that you were going in that direction.
- 29:16Speaker 3: So I think that I would tell you to just
- 29:18Speaker 3: keep going, that you're going to get there.
- 29:21Speaker 5: AI's response is, you don't have to say yes to
- 29:26Speaker 5: everything just because you're grateful to be invited.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, that tracks with me too. Yeah. That tracks
- 29:35Speaker 1: with me too. But I would have liked some reassurance. Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Because I was wildly just in search of the higher
- 29:46Speaker 2: version all the time with the networking and the social
- 29:50Speaker 2: life and all that stuff. Even the social life that
- 29:53Speaker 2: I was living, was all building like connection and building
- 29:57Speaker 2: alliances and building friendship and community, you know?
- 30:00Speaker 1: So I was kind of trying to piece it together. Okay.
- 30:03Speaker 4: All right.
- 30:03Speaker 5: Wilmer, what, what would Freddie tell his 25 year old self?
- 30:09Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about what he achieved by
- 30:14Speaker 2: the age of 25 is quite remarkable. Um, what would
- 30:21Speaker 2: I tell his 25 year old self? Um, I would
- 30:30Speaker 2: tell him that his family will be his greatest achievement.
- 30:34Speaker 2: That when he looks back, when he was 25, that
- 30:40Speaker 2: you got it right. Like fatherhood is something he absolutely
- 30:47Speaker 2: nailed at a time in his life where he might
- 30:50Speaker 2: have not had all the tools, but quickly he evolved
- 30:53Speaker 2: into a family.
- 30:55Speaker 1: And then you still became an iconic actor. So it's like.
- 30:59Speaker 2: I don't know, kind of like you got it right.
- 31:01Speaker 2: I mean, like you did it. You know, you were
- 31:03Speaker 2: a great father.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Oh, I received that. Right?
- 31:06Speaker 2: I mean, at 25, you know, who would have imagined, right?
- 31:12Speaker 2: Some people are like, okay, I'm going to become a father.
- 31:13Speaker 2: But at that point, you were a father to how old?
- 31:17Speaker 3: Let's see, when I was 25, my son was.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Five, five and three. Wow.
- 31:24Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because he and I are, The uncertainty at
- 31:28Speaker 3: that time, right?
- 31:31Speaker 1: And in our business, right? You don't know where the
- 31:33Speaker 1: next gig's going to be. I would say that part
- 31:37Speaker 1: of your life, you got it right. Yeah, yeah. What
- 31:41Speaker 1: did I say? Relax.
- 31:44Speaker 4: Half the shit you're worried about isn't going to matter.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Ah, that's interesting. What comes up for you when you
- 31:50Speaker 1: hear that? Half the shit. It's not going to matter.
- 31:55Speaker 1: At 25? Stuff that I was worrying about? Huh. What
- 31:59Speaker 1: were you worrying about at 25? Like feeding my kids.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Feeding the family, like paying rent.
- 32:05Speaker 2: But if you hadn't worried about it, they would have
- 32:07Speaker 2: not gotten fed. So AI, you shed the bed on
- 32:09Speaker 2: that one.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that was my kind of one track mind.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I had to feed three people and myself. Okay, what
- 32:18Speaker 1: else you got?
- 32:20Speaker 4: One more thing. This is for both of you.
- 32:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:23Speaker 4: I asked AI, where should Dos Amigos vacation together?
- 32:26Speaker 1: They have an answer?
- 32:31Speaker 4: They have an answer, but do you want me to
- 32:32Speaker 4: give you the answer first? Yeah, sure. Mexico City. Oh,
- 32:35Speaker 4: Mexico City is cool.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Mexico City is cool. I was going to say Oaxaca.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Because you can go tequila tasting. I don't think it would.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Be kind of cool. No, I mean, I think. I
- 32:50Speaker 1: know why they say that.
- 32:52Speaker 2: It's because the name of the show is in Spanish, right?
- 32:58Speaker 2: But if I really think about who we are as
- 33:03Speaker 2: a show, I'd pick somewhere that wasn't us because our
- 33:09Speaker 2: culture can fit in anywhere.
- 33:12Speaker 1: So I would say, I don't know, Japan. Ooh, yeah.
- 33:18Speaker 1: I'd love to go to Japan.
- 33:20Speaker 2: You know, doing an episode out of the gold temple of, uh, in, uh, Kyoto.
- 33:26Speaker 1: That'd be sick. Yeah. I'd love to, I, you know,
- 33:30Speaker 1: what was that movie? Why are you laughing? It's so good.
- 33:34Speaker 4: So I'm imagining.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Hey man, Latinos in Tokyo.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Hey, you know, it would be a cool episode.
- 33:42Speaker 3: It, um, I remember seeing, uh, I remember seeing an episode,
- 33:47Speaker 3: I guess I'm vice or something about how, Latino culture
- 33:51Speaker 3: has really influenced Japanese culture.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And I'd love to go there and to see how
- 33:56Speaker 1: that is. There's salsa clubs and they're all Japanese people. Hey,
- 34:01Speaker 1: what about that group? When we were kids, that salsa
- 34:03Speaker 1: band that they were from Japan. Oh, yeah. We got
- 34:09Speaker 1: to find out. We got to find out.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Um, that's a good one, man. Hey, but this was
- 34:14Speaker 2: a good exercise. This was really, really interesting. You know,
- 34:17Speaker 2: I mean, some things were a little generic from AI.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:20Speaker 2: You know, but, but then some other stuff is like,
- 34:22Speaker 2: they take a lot of your lifestyle that publicly was
- 34:25Speaker 2: somehow like, you know, uh, knowledge and then they just
- 34:28Speaker 2: kind of curated into like, yeah, it's interesting.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Well, look, this was a great episode.
- 34:34Speaker 2: I love this AI conversation and we're going to keep
- 34:37Speaker 2: it going. Uh, the next three episodes will be AI
- 34:40Speaker 2: Freddie and AI Wilmer.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:42Speaker 2: And, uh, we will be in Mexico city, you know, uh,
- 34:47Speaker 2: Location scouting for our Mexico episode.
- 34:49Speaker 1: But anyways, this is Wilmer Valderrama. This is Freddy Rodriguez.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on Dos Amigos.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Remember, you can subscribe, you can download, you can find
- 35:00Speaker 2: this podcast anywhere that you listen to your podcast.