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INTERVIEW: John Leguizamo Talks 'Dear Killer Nannies,' ICE, Trump Administration, Bad Bunny Super Bowl, New Exorcist Movie, Hollywood + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago.
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  Speaker 2: Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: You don't finish for y'all morning.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is d j en Vy, just hilarious, charlamage the
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  Speaker 4: guy we are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Laura la Rose is here with us as well.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, John Legos, how.
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  Speaker 3: Are you doing great? That's not how you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: say it.
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  Speaker 1: You supposed to say okay.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, when teachers would get to that my
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  Speaker 3: name and they go like like kubanois, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna just do it phonetically and shut
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  Speaker 3: them up laughing at me.
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  Speaker 2: I was like that with my first name.
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  Speaker 5: My first name is Lenard, but the teachers would always
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  Speaker 5: say Leonard, right, and so I would get tired of
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  Speaker 5: correcting them.
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  Speaker 2: So I was just like, man, just call me. My
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  Speaker 2: middle name was Larry.
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  Speaker 3: Like that'll just stop the nonsense, because your first day
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  Speaker 3: of school everybody starts laughing at you is not the
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  Speaker 3: way you want to start the year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, exactly are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great? I'm great, great to be it's excited to
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  Speaker 3: be here. Man, right, and on Netflix now has a
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  Speaker 3: big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us how much you nanny.
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  Speaker 3: Because killing brag. Man, I don't like to brag. It's
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  Speaker 3: not cool to you know. No they I mean, Disney
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  Speaker 3: pays well, it pays well. I'm not gonna lie h
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  Speaker 3: Apple Disney. Netflix doesn't pay well for actors anymore. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know about Your show is a totally different thing.
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  Speaker 3: Licenses is different, right. I like the way it is
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  Speaker 3: a little different.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the killing nannys on the first well,
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  Speaker 4: which is tomorrow, and it's about but in a different light.
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  Speaker 3: Absolute because everybody's done correct, you know, and I guess
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  Speaker 3: you know, like white actors have to do like Hamlet
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  Speaker 3: and they all do it. Latin actors all have to
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  Speaker 3: do to show who's the best because have you but
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  Speaker 3: them did it, and he said, Toro did it, Wag
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  Speaker 3: no more. We just got nominated for an Oscar did it.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's my turn to do it. So everybody
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  Speaker 3: did good. Some didn't get the accent quite right, a
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  Speaker 3: couple I'm not gonna name who, and something get the
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  Speaker 3: gestures the behavior. So I tried to do it all. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I studied my ass off. I watched every tape, every
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  Speaker 3: recording he ever had. I read everything about him, I
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  Speaker 3: talked to his son, gave me a lot of tips
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  Speaker 3: about how to play him nice and things that happened.
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  Speaker 3: Because the Sun was a consultant on this one for
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  Speaker 3: the first time ever, so we've seen the inside of
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  Speaker 3: what happened and what was said at home. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what's exciting about this show because you didn't know what
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  Speaker 3: was going on, like the kind of fear that they
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  Speaker 3: lived under, even though he was I guess the wealthiest
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  Speaker 3: gangster that ever lived. He was worth thirty billion when
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  Speaker 3: he died. I guess that's seventy billion in today's twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six money, so he's the wealthiest. But he still
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  Speaker 3: had to move homes sometimes stay away from the family
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  Speaker 3: so he could be like a decoil away from them.
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  Speaker 3: The son tried to go to school, but the DA
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  Speaker 3: was after them assassination attempts. The kids were afraid of him,
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  Speaker 3: so he had to be schooled at home by these
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  Speaker 3: trained assassin nannies. And they became his friends, his family,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you can't totally trust them because they're
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  Speaker 3: not really family, and they some of them became informants,
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  Speaker 3: so Pablo had to off some of them, and then
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  Speaker 3: that was confusing to the son that his dad was
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  Speaker 3: taking out some of the nannies that he loved. And
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  Speaker 3: so that's all in the series. It's really wild.
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  Speaker 4: It's not about the drug part of it. It's more
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  Speaker 4: about the son growing up and how his father was
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  Speaker 4: a father.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly trying to be a father, you know. And you
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  Speaker 3: know back then it was a tough love kind of love.
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  Speaker 3: But Pablo was the first guy in Columbian maybe in
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  Speaker 3: all of Latin America in the eighties because it was
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  Speaker 3: a tough love kind of you raise your son like
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  Speaker 3: being tough, you want to made him prepare for the world.
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  Speaker 3: He would say I love you, kiss him, hug him
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  Speaker 3: in public, at home, everywhere, and Columbian dads weren't doing that. Obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Pablo knew that he might die. That's why he was
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  Speaker 3: more affectionate. But he but you know, because I hug
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  Speaker 3: and kissed my son and say I love you. But
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  Speaker 3: that's not how my dad treated me. My dad was
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  Speaker 3: like every day I seed you, you get more stupid
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  Speaker 3: or than the last day. That's how my dad, you
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  Speaker 3: know there is back then.
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  Speaker 2: Did playing him in this series humanize them for you?
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  Speaker 3: I would We were trying not to humanize him and
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  Speaker 3: normalize him. You know, we do show all the killings
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  Speaker 3: and the assassinations that he did, ah, but but we
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  Speaker 3: do show, uh, the parents side. That was complicated because
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  Speaker 3: the son did call him out a lot of times.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's you know, what kind of life are
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  Speaker 3: we living? You're killing the nannies, You're killing some of
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  Speaker 3: my friends. Are you gonna kill my mom? And she
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  Speaker 3: says the wrong thing to you? So he the son
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  Speaker 3: does call him out in the show, which is that
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  Speaker 3: that's the only part that you might feel kind of
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  Speaker 3: humanizing him a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Why why did he Why was he so willing to
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  Speaker 5: just kill people and let people know that he was
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  Speaker 5: killing him You would think that would be something he
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  Speaker 5: would keep himself.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, because he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 3: He owned Columbia. You know, he owned the whole country.
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  Speaker 3: He owned the government. He was bribing everybody. His thing
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  Speaker 3: was blatta or blomo. So either you take the bribe
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  Speaker 3: or you get a bullet. So that was your choice
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  Speaker 3: that he put to everybody, and he took. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he bombed a lot of journalists, he bombed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of politicians. He controlled the country. Basically, he told him
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  Speaker 3: that he would pay their debt if they let him
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  Speaker 3: take over completely.
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  Speaker 1: Were you nervous a scared plane this part at all?
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  Speaker 3: You know it's been years now. No, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not scared anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, what do you mean anymore?
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  Speaker 2: He was getting first?
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  Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, you couldn't do that
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  Speaker 3: because you know, who knows somebody might come after you.
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  Speaker 3: But now, I mean it's years later, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Which drew to the role initially.
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  Speaker 3: To show up everybody that I could do it better
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  Speaker 3: than everybody else. And I think I did a crazy
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  Speaker 3: good job. Man. There one actor that might have beat me,
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  Speaker 3: the Colombian actor who did a TV series about Pablo.
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  Speaker 3: He looked just exactly like him. His accent was perfection,
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  Speaker 3: the gestures. I'm second, I think, but you you judge
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  Speaker 3: for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: What is the role like this demand from you emotionally
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  Speaker 2: that that other roles did?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this one.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was a lot of research that more
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  Speaker 3: than other roles where I could be myself or tap
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  Speaker 3: different parts myself, here I had to like reach to
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  Speaker 3: the level that you could play a power Escobar tape
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  Speaker 3: next to me and me and see that there's not
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  Speaker 3: that much difference, you know that That's what I was after.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw that his son told the La Times
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  Speaker 7: that doing a movie like this is like his way
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  Speaker 7: to tell the truth and to kind of push back
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  Speaker 7: against the way that other movies has made the violence
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  Speaker 7: a spectacle. But how do you not make it a
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  Speaker 7: spectacle because he's so notorious, and like, you got to
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  Speaker 7: include all of that stuff. So like in the writing,
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  Speaker 7: how did they try and figure it out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because we did. We did still show all
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  Speaker 3: his violence, you know, all all the assassinations attempts that
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  Speaker 3: he put on people, and and and uh and the
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  Speaker 3: and the and the kind of life of paranoid that
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  Speaker 3: he lived. We kept that. But I think the difference
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  Speaker 3: in this is that you see what the family life
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  Speaker 3: was like at home with the wife and with the kids,
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  Speaker 3: and how he was trying to be a loving dad,
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  Speaker 3: but his morality said the opposite message. You know, he
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  Speaker 3: just couldn't help it. I mean, I mean, we all
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  Speaker 3: mess up as parents, but our kids are gonna hate
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  Speaker 3: us for something. But I mean he had extra you know,
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  Speaker 3: he had all that, having to move the kids from
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  Speaker 3: place to place, having to stay away from them, so
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  Speaker 3: that he wouldn't bring violence to the house. And eventually,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that kind of lifestyle always ends the way
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  Speaker 3: it always ends, you know, like he got shot up.
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  Speaker 6: We're talking to the sun, right and I imagine his
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  Speaker 6: son had to relive all this and go down memory
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  Speaker 6: lane a lot. Was it ever emotional for him?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think, yeah, he got he got emotional, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because he did love his dad. You know, I guess
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  Speaker 3: he had a lot of words and some beef towards
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  Speaker 3: the end. But I guess you have to make up
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  Speaker 3: for that after your dad passes. You know, he changed
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  Speaker 3: his whole life. He moved to Argentina, that changed his name,
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  Speaker 3: became a psychologist. I guess you would have to become
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  Speaker 3: a psychologist lifestyle and and and he goes around the
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  Speaker 3: world doing you know, speeches about you know, giving good,
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  Speaker 3: putting out good.
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  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So that that's how he escaped the sins of the father.
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  Speaker 7: But even though he's done all of that, does is
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  Speaker 7: there like traumas that he still deals with daily even
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  Speaker 7: all these years later.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he definitely has to deal with I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the way they grew up and and all that money
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't get because you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it was disappeared. It we never it was never really
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  Speaker 3: discovered where a lot of that money went. But I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of people robbed it and took.
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  Speaker 2: It, and law enforcement, I'm sure they got.
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  Speaker 3: A huge chunk of that, and all his other comrades
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  Speaker 3: must have taken a piece.
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  Speaker 4: And I wanted to know, you know, for for Colombians,
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  Speaker 4: how did they view Pablo, because you know, did they
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  Speaker 4: love him or was it just a fearful.
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  Speaker 1: Thing or did they hate him?
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  Speaker 3: They hate him, I mean, I think you see the
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  Speaker 3: journalists and people who are law abiding citizens hate him,
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: But you know, the people in the town, they loved
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: him because he did all the right things, you know,
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: and he was representing them because you know Latin America,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's ten percent of the people run everything,
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  Speaker 3: and anybody else lives in poverty, you know. So he
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: was building stadiums, churches, you know, helping out building schools.
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  Speaker 3: He did all the right things to make people love him,
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  Speaker 3: and he represented sort of the little man, the ordinary guy,
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  Speaker 3: the underdog, making it making it big, busting out of
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  Speaker 3: this sort of world where if you're born into money,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: you get the education, you get the best jobs, you know,
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: and that you know, and also like the more white
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: looking you are in Latin America, the more successful you are.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: And if you're more Indigenous or Afro Latino, it's a
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: much tougher life. Just you know, all that colonists, colonialism
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: and conquest doesn't go away that easy.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: You know, how do you pivot between comedy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing dramas like this.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm an amazing.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, how do you pivot
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  Speaker 2: between all that stuff?
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  Speaker 3: So? Because I'm an amazing actor, that's why? How else
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: can you do that? Yeah? You know, I love what
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: I do, man, I love I love animated voices like
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: Incanto and shit the sloth and I love doing that.
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: Plus you know, the check is really nice too. That's
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: another Disney check, by the way, two Disney checks. License
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: to Disneyey.
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: I feel like I know Bruno, Like we don't talk
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: about Bruno. But is it effortless as you make it look?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Pretty much? You know something I know? Yeah, I
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: mean the the I do the voices easily. But the
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: problem was a harder one because you know, English is
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: my dominant language, so even though Spanish is my mother tongue,
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: that to get that right, I had to work really
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: hard because I had a lot of pressure. I don't
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't want Columbians to be embarrassed by me that
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: I messed up, you know, I messed up with that representation.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to do that.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: But you know, you're you're a You're just a great
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: actor period, not a great Latino actor. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, bro, thank you? Yeah?
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, do you why do you think the industry still
• 10:59
  Speaker 5: moves so slow when it comes to I guess just inclusion.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well you know, obviously this administration doesn't make
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: it easier, you know, deeming us d ei. You know,
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: like we were got the jobs because of our skin color, ethnicity. No,
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: we got here because of our greater talent. Because to
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: be a black or Latin talent you have to be
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  Speaker 3: ten times better than a white talent to get that job.
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  Speaker 3: It's not less talent. You have to have more talent.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're still not selected for everything I Hollywood.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, they would be straight up.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: They would tell you to my face, you know they would.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: You know, some producer came to me with doing Spawn
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: and he said to me, you know, too bad, your
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: Puerto Rican because if you if you want Puerto Rican,
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: you'd be such a big movie star. But that was
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: the reality of things, you know. And then executives, when
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: you pitch them a story, they will go, you know,
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: that's really good and everything. But you know, we don't
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: have to do Latin content because Latin people go to
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: the movies no matter what they see. They'd rather see
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: white people. And I'll go, what you know, they would
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: tell you that to your face. Now they don't tell
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: you anything. They just you don't hear anything. You don't
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: hear it. It's silent radio.
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  Speaker 6: Now, Spaun, you absolutely killed it. That was one of
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  Speaker 6: my favorite. But when they told you that, what was
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: going through your mind? Like what did that crush you
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: in any way? Discourage you in any way at that point?
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: No, that was a fact. That was a fact. I
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: mean that that back then in the in those days,
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: you know, there was this thing called the Ross Report
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: that would come out on Mondays. This is I'm talking
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: about the eighties, ancient history. Uh, the Russ Report come
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: out money and tell you every movie that was available,
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: every role that was available, and it was a little
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Jim Crow or Juan Crow because that's what they called
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: it people.
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: That was.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: What they called it for Latin people in the Southwest
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: because there was Jim Crow laws against us as well.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: We were allowed to go to churches, parks, uh, movies,
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: you know, you couldn't eat with white people or going
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: to pool when white people went back in those days,
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: in the eighteen hundreds and before that. So this rust
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: report would come out and would say white lead, white doctor,
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: white lawyer, white love interests, white this. And then every
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: five months I get like a Latin drug dealer, and
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I would ask my agent, can I go up for
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: these other roles? Let me just do my monologue, let
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: me just read for them. They'll see they won't even
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: see you. They wouldn't see you that. So that's that's
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: the way it was. No matter how talented you were,
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: or how you studied or whatever, you were never going
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: to get the opportunity, the same opportunity as a white actor.
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: It feels like even now, like Hollywood celebrates Latino culture
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: but still doesn't trust Latinos to like lead major project.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Right right, I mean, we're twenty percent of the population,
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: were over index at thirty percent of the box office. Wow,
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: for bad boys. We are forty percent of the box office,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: and until we get twenty percent of executives, then things
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: are going to change. But until we have Latin executives,
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: things aren't going to change that much.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why the white people fighting it though,
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: if the country's getting more brown up.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just I know it makes everything better?
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  Speaker 7: Are you so?
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: What what are you holding? I mean, it's so lazy,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: it makes makes no sense. We all could get along
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: to have a great time. It's gonna flip anyway. White
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  Speaker 3: people are only fifty eight point two percent of the population.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: They're almost just nearly have but they're still getting ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent of the rolls, ninety percent of the executives, ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent of everything.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: You think it's our fault sometimes because we don't show
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: up with the green like we should, meaning like meaning
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: like when there's a project, you know, led by a
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: brown person, or how people should make sure they show up,
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: like when it's the project led by a black person,
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: like you should make sure they show up because everybody
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: cares about money at the day.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but you know, we black and Latin people
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: do show up when when the content is right, you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, the content has to be right. But sometimes
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of Latin content is not written by Latin
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: people or directed by a Latin person. So you have
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: all this cultural appropriation that makes things look weak and
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: soft and doesn't represent correctly. And people can smell that out,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: you know. But look Fluffy the comedian. He sell is
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: out Dodger Stadium. There's no comedian in America that can
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: sell out Dodger Stadium. Bad Bunny sold out Yankee Stadium twice.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Marcandy sells out the mass a. Latin people show up
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: for the content that's genuine, that's theirs. I mean, George
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Lopez and I when we do the rice and bean
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: circuits across America. Yo, you're selling out in all these
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: major cities. You sell out and you make I used
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: to make all my bank.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: There is.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Twenty six twenty six big cities. You got Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Uh, Chicago,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: also a California, you know you got, you got San Diego,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles, San Francisco, you got Denver, Colorado, you got
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: h Phoenix, Arizona. Then in Texas it's uh uh Austin, Houston, Dallas, McCallan,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: corpus CHRISTI Uh San Antonio. Uh where else did that forget?
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Someone else? Uhs Vegas? Vegas? Yeah, my dad say, Miami,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: that's all you need.
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: And the Rights and Bean show consists of like y'all
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: just like doing comedy on your call.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, comedy, all these comedy uh circuits, and you go
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: through these venues and boom, you sell out and you
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: stay as long as you keep selling out, and then
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you move to the next town.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: You had a strong message for Ice and the follows
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: of Ice, and you didn't want to match the show.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I want to read it because it says, uh, if
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: you follow Ice, don't come to my shows, don't watch
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: my movies.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why was that follow me?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Why was that so important for you?
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: It was important to me because the way I see
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Latin bodies being treated, you know, mom's, grandmothers, children, pregnant women.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, why are you arresting children? I mean, how
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: do you do that?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: How can you?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: How can you wrap your mind around that? It's so
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: inhuman and cruel and and the way they're treating people.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: You see that, and so yeah, I can't I can't
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: be for these these uh kind of like domestic terrorists
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: going around covering their faces, not giving badges, not reading
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: you your rights, not treating people with respect. That that's
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that's not what they set out to do with then't
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: they set out to grab criminals. These aren't criminals, obviously,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: they're just innocent people. I mean, then reading them their
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: rights and not treating them with due process, that's not America.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: That's not the America that I believe in.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: At the airport, yeah, airport, I don't think that the one.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I think the ones at the airport are not the
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: same ones. They're industry, right, I think it's I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: it's a totally different bunch of people because they're so
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: nice and they're so helpful.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And Trump said that it was image rehab.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: For Oh, that's absolutely what it looks like.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: What I think he wanted to do is you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: you go to the airport and you realize, oh, they're
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: so nice. And then so when he says, and we're
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: going to have them at the voting boosts during the midterms,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna think noting.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Of it, right, Right, that's that private military send them
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: wherever he wants. Yeah, I mean that's what it looked like.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: The optics to me was the other day I was
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in the airport. It was like, Oh, you're trying to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: normalize these guys and make them look like they okay
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: because they're not wearing the masks, they're not grabbing anybody,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: They're just standing around. Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Have you got backlash at all for that, for that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: statement that pulled over?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Not yet. But I'm taking lots of precautions. Yeah. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: And you know, my family's afraid. You know, when you
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: speak out there are consequences, you know. So yeah, yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I take much more precautions than I used to. You know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I make sure my phone's on lockdown mode and whatnot.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Did they see you? How do they treat your del
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: They looked at me.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I balled me, and I balled them back.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I wasn't friendly and I'm not going to be friendly
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to people who are treating my people the way they are.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And the problem is the majority of these ICE guys
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: are Latino and black. That's that bug the hell out
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: of it. I mean, how do you deal with that?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I mean the majority of the people, and I know
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they're going for a check, most of them, but still.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: How do you treat these your people?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: How do you treat your own people.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the ones in the airport are not
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the same ones that are on the street. I truly believe.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: But now now, but when the midterms come, the ones
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: that's gonna be in the voter moves are the ones
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: that were in the street.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right? All that thuggery.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Now, what's something about Hollywood that you used to accept
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: that you'd never tolerate?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: No, I you know, I used to accept all white movies,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: all white movies, all white events. You know, that was
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: just like you thought, I guess there's not enough of us,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: or or we're just not good enough to be there,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: you know. But now I don't accept that anymore. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: won't go see a movie that's all white. I just
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I just won't because it's it's we were in history,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Latin black people were. We've been here since five since
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the conquest and before we you know, like I used
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: to love Madmott, but then I was like, what, there's
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: not one Latin person. Come on, in the sixties, you
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: had Westside Story. In the fifties, is that one Latin
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: person you could have thrown into that series? And I
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: love that series, but then I felt so left out
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and so excluded in the race in New York's in
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: my New York City when Sase was happening and Latin
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Jazz was happening, there was none of that, and you
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: could have squeezed into your mad men, you know. So yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: all white shows are out for me.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I want to ask, I want to go back a
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: little bit, if you didn't mind, how did you get
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: into acting? Like growing up in New York City, you
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: would see your name all over the place, right whether
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: it's Carolines or you're performing here. And I knew you
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: at first as a comedian, of course, and then you
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: got into acting? What got you into comedy?
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: And then I was going to ask that, Yo, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: just asked them how to get into movie?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: If I was gonna do from comedy because it started
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: with coming, how did you get into comedy? And then
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: how did you transition into.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I started I was a class clown and a troublemaker
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and a trouble team and all that stuff. And the
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: school made me go to therapy because they won't let
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: me back. And uh, but I was a class clown,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you know, at Bertram and it was a competitive school
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: for class clowns. Man, you couldn't not sit at the Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you couldn't sit at this one lunch room table unless
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you crack the best jokes the day before.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So I just got to write my jokes the day
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: before and all that stuff. And this was that what
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: age this sixteen seventeen, you know when Damon Wayne's went
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: there and Q Tip and uh Jungle Brothers.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I all knew each other.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I knew Damon, I didn't know Q Tip. Q Tip
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: was like two years younger than me.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Damien was always funny.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know about funny he was. He was an
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: odd man. He was a handsome dude, but he was
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: just always to himself, always kind of smiling, and had
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: jokes in his head. I just didn't hear them out loud.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: So back to the story. So he was writing ahead
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and at the lunch table.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you know, and then my Matt teacher,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: missus Zufa, was like, you know, mister squeezing Mo. He
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: used to call me because you couldn't say my name correctly,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And you go, if they can make penicillina a moldy bread,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: there must be something we can do with you. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: he suggested I use my comedy for some good instead
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of disrupting. And I started taking acting classes and boom
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: that started my career. Started taking these acting classes and
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: YU students came to see these shows and they offered
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: me student films and boom boom. Agent that got Miami
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Vice because that's the only place lad people could work
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in those days, was his villains on Miami Vice. But hey,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: they were funding our careers.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: You know. Damn that's do.
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: And then I just had shows that the New Brunswick
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: UH in New Brunswick, New Jersey, at the Stress Factory, and.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You're on the wall up there. I don't know if
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: You remember going there?
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: I do, okay, because Benny always talks about you and
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: you know, coming to his club, and I love seeing
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: you on the wall. I mean, I'm a stand up
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: comedian myself, so oh cool, like I see you on
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: a lot of the walls. But it's so funny that
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: I saw you there. And then I and they were
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: talking about Vinnie.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because you got to test out your material,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: you know, and you gotta go somewhere, right. Yeah. So
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I try to stay out of New York because then
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'll get reviewed and they'll you know, they'll rush some
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: new stuff that's not right, not right for the public eye.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So I go to Jersey, I go, you know, wherever
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I can as far away and test my stuff out.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And you know, I love that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: That got to be hard for you now, right, you
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: testing out anything anywhere. I feel like your face is
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: so known, like everybody knows you.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, I have to do different things obviously. Now. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: just I kind of do zoom things of my material zoo.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I can't even imagine, like what's the impact on the people?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not that audience. I just get like
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: my trusted friends and trusted Yeah, so I have to,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: like I have make it smaller and smaller and more
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: protected obviously. Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: How about the worse though?
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: You tell the joking from the five friends and they
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: just look at you like that's not it. They got
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: you got commident yourself. And then when they do crack it,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: you know, then they do laugh. You're like, oh, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: got it right. That one really kills I'll work on
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: the other ones.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to something you said about
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the all white movies.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: You would do an all white movie that I won't
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: go see it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: You won't go see an all white movie, you know, because.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: If I'm in it, then they won't be an all
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: white movie exactly.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: People will take that statement and be like, well, that's racist.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Why is that not racist?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Because it's been like that forever all white movies America.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: White people are only fifty eight point two percent of
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: the population. That's that's how they should be in terms
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: of executives, the amount of stories, the amount of actors
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: per film. I mean, that's that's the proper equation I
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: believe for fairness and equity and parody. I just feel
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that it's been going on for too long. It's a
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it's a transgression, man. I feel like it's a transgression.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Include us, Include Us.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite all white movie? Good?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, good Will Hunting that's a really good.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: The eighties movies like Paris Bus.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's another good.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Movie.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Jarge is a good all white movie.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: Exodus, Exorsus, Exorcist. Remember about Exist. It was supposed to
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: be an Egyptians, but they had all the white people.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, no, no people are colored none.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah in Africa that's crazy.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Do Exorses Yeah with Lawrence Fishburns. She would
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: tell Elijah Force Collar Joe.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, amazing.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: How is that? It's great?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's already done, like no, no, no, no, we're.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Filming right now. Okay, yeah, yeah in the Story of Queens. Wow.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Nice, nice when you do Like so this is obviously
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: the first movie like this, right the Exorses? Are you
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: big on like horror anyway? Like this does that type
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: of shit scare you? Because it gets very very graphic
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: on them sets.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I can only imagine this terrified. I mean, yeah, when
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I saw Extoruses at thirteen, because my grandmother was a
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Seventh day Adventism and she was like, you're going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Hell and you meet me, you're going to go to Hey.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And she slapped me once because I joked around that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I was possessed by the that one. She like, wallap,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: not sating out of me, and uh, you know. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: when I saw The Exoris, I thought it was a documentary.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I thought it was real. I was so terrified. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: slept with rosary beads, I had holy water. I couldn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: be left alone. So here we're doing this new one.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: It's terrifying. I'm not allowed to speak exactly about it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: but it's more true crime like Seven Meets Satan. It's incredible.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: It is really horrifying.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Again and all that, Like how do you flush it
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: out of you?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You know, I did a serial killer movie once I
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: was the detective. I wasn't serial killing. I did mad research.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I went to Morgues, I saw autopsies and whatnot. But
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I started really having paranoia issues. I couldn't sleep, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: was hallucinating during the day and it was too much. Man,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: it was too much. And I promised myself I would
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: never go that deep again. I'm just gonna use the
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: memory of that situation to recreate it in this in
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: this show. Because I did I say that I couldn't sleep.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I kept thinking people trying to murder me and whatnot.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what you think about those type of movies
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: and people. Does it really affect you personally? When you
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: do you carry that stuff home with.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Every movie affects you personally. There's no way if you're
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: if you're a deep enough, good enough actor, you're gonna
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: take it home. So I have to be careful with
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the roles I choose. And and also, like you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: if I'm doing a really rageful role, I have to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: kind of stay away from my family a little bit
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and try to stay calm. And you know, because you
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you you're repping up your your mind doesn't know the
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: difference between reality and fantasy. When you're feeding stuff into
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: your head, it doesn't know the difference. So your body
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: reacts to it like like normal.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: How do you get out of it?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Well, you got you got to try to like listen
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to like upbeat music. You got to try to read
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: stuff that's light. You have to try to you know, uh,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: you know, purge it out of your body.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Do you have a nanny? And did you did I
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: what do you have a nanny now? And did you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: ever feel like you know you want to do hey no.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. It's just like you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you get no, it's just like you get you get
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: you know, you can start raging its little things and
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: then you're like, oh, whoa, that's the character. I need
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to I need to just walk over for a walk,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: just need to leave the house from minute.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You know, any of you any of the movies, did
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you ever take it out on your kids and your family?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Like because you know he joked the out the nanny,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: But I know, sometimes what we do at work sometimes
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: we take it out on our kids.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Is that happened to you?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I snapped my wife with stupid things.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I realize, oh, that that's a character,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and she knows and she starts to like, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta check yourself, check yourself at the door,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and I go, yeah, no, you're totally right. Yeah, Or
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you get depressed. I just did a movie that was
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: really depressing, and I was depressed all the time. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: you know, you just can't help it because you're feeding
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: yourself all these depressing things to get to that place.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Your body doesn't know the difference. You start getting depressed.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think that we need to know.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Actors? And what I mean by that is right, like
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: their personal lives, personal livesse you know how you see
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of these guys you'll get on podcasts or.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: They get on radio and share share things that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, I don't know if I need
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: that because I love the characters that you played, like
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: is doing it?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So I think I think you you you rob the
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: audience from believing you're that character because now we know
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: that you you know, either you're silly dude or or
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you're or you're softer than you're you're playing you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you're meaner than you are. You know, you you robbed
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the audience of the opportunity to have a clean slate.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: They already know so much about you. I think it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: it's better the you know. Early in my life, obviously
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I was all about sharing over sharing, you know, that
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: was my comedy. That was my whole freak and mamble
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: mouth and sex a holics and whatnot. But now I
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: believe it's it's better to keep a little that mystery
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: for yourself because, like even with.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: A movie TV show, your political views, I guess could
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: impact the audience absolutely.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I lost half my found my following when
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I became political in twenty sixteen because I saw that
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: boom boom and also the racist attacks you know, jumped up.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: You know. You know, you go back to Mexico if
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you don't like our country. I mean, I'm not Mexican,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: but I'll gladly go to Mexico if you pay for
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: my ticket. Yeah, I love to visit. Say, I heard's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: a great city, Mexico City. Uh, you know, and then
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: then you know, a lot of hate we should think
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you were funny. You're not funny anymore. When was your
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: asking movie? It started, like the hate starts coming, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the the bots and whatnot. But you can't be quiet though,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: right Like I have a hard time being quiet. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: have a hard time keeping to myself. I have a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: hard time seeing our country, you know, going down this
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: destruction of democracy and the corruption that's going on. It's
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: and then this endless wars are horrific, man. You know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: it's just like it's hard to sit there and be
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a parent and and not feel you know, responsible somehow
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: if you because I feel like democracy is not a
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: spectator sport. You got to do something. You got to participate.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: What do your agents and stuff say to you, Like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they try to encourage you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: To give up.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: You lose the business on that side, like offers and
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: deals and movies and something.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's hard to see that, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it has an effect. You know, I'm sure
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not being invited to Red States to perform or
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to do speaking engagements. But you know, yeah, yeah, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: when you become political, you know, it has it has
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: it has a consequences. I mean, how could it not.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: You know the craziest thing about this time though, God willing. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the pendulum will shift back. Yes, yes, I hope. So.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean they're moving like they're not leaving right, but
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: but you would moving.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: They're moving to not this in private military and all
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the things that he's trying to do, stopping elections, controlling elections,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: rating voting elections in Georgia. You know, he's trying to
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: figure out ways to not ever leave, asking him maybe
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: you know, remove the third term, the second term limits,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: but then Obama can run.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: But that would But that's I hate when people say that,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: because the fight is already fixed. If they if they
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: change the constitution the way he can run for a
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: third term, it don't matter.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Regards the case. But I just, uh, I forgot what
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: You're talking about the power executives got to look you
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: in the eye and be like, hey, John, welcome back.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You know, how would you treat treat them? Then?
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I tream like every employer. You know
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: what I mean, if you got a job for me,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: that that that I want?
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Uh. Bertal Breck, the great playwright of the of the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: early nineteenth century, said I'll take rich people's money and
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: use it against them. And I thought, oh my god,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that's like the best artistic saying ever. Should be a
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: T shirt, you know. So yeah, that's what I'll do.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I love that now deare kiling Nanni's is in Spanish?
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: All Spanish?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think that will.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Limit how wide the audience will be? Like the range
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: of audience because you got to read and pay attention.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: I know it's so much going on, but it's like
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: you can like that reading. What about people that can't
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: really read that good?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying already? So they got they
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: got a dub version that I did. I did a
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: dub version for those that don't want to read. Okay,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: but you know, squid games come on. I mean, it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a whole different world than it used to be. Americans
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: did not want to be reading. They didn't want anything
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: that wasn't in English. But America is different now. It's
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: much more sophisticated, much more worldly. I think we got
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: a big shot.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be great. I hate the dub version,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like it's just sometimes the mouse to be like kill
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: him because.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: The dragon.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: My wife says it all the time, like you got
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: to learn Spanish because all the kids know Spanish talk
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: to him in school.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: But the first euro language spoken in Americas was Spanish,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: not English, because this was discovered by I mean, look
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: at California is a Spanish word, Arizona neva means snowy, Florid.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: That means Florid. I mean, there's all Spanish words. Mar
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: al lago is a Spanish word. It means from seed
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to lake. Come on, Trump doesn't even know that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Take our Spanish name out.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: You've done stand up, Broadway TV film?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: What what medium gives you the most power to tell
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you truth?
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Stand up obviously is the opportunity to be your most
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: honest and most reckless self.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you still enjoy it?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when I do, and I do it, Yeah, I
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: love it. I love it, but I do now it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: more speaking engagements, and I love that. That's what I'm doing. Now.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: How do you have time to do any of that?
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: You always booked, you always filming a you know project.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: How do you even have time to even do speaking engagements?
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know Spanish. I used to do. I
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: do it sporadically now, you know, so, yeah, and and
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the de I thing has affected his Trump's attack on
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: d I has affected the speaking engagement circuit for really really,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: because yeah, a lot of corporations now are afraid to
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: dole out dollars to something that looks Latino or black.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: They don't they don't want to look like they're doing
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: you know that they're going to be called by the
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: federal government. So yeah, there's a lot of a lot.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, his his policies do have negative effects and
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: trickle down negative effects on our on our communities, our employment,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: on our opportunities to make money.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: I love what you said about you know, rich people's
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: money and using it against them, But I still feel
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: like there has to be some type of accountability.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: When all of these shifts back, we should remember the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: people who stay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Write those names down and it's Normberg them. I want
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Nurremberg trials. I want every one of these pan Bondies
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and Christi Nomes to be prosecuted. Nobody gets away, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: they know that. I mean, I think they're.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: Feeling that, But y'all don't feel like when the Black Square,
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: that whole movement happened, right and everybody was like, oh
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: my god, we want to have empty for black people,
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: brown people, and then everything just switched. We didn't anybody
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: accountable for things that didn't happen, like we just moved
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: on and just lived our daily day life.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I know, because the problem is you don't want to
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: put the same aggression and violence back into the system,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: but they're in diverse you don't want.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: To do that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: But I still think people need to be held accountable,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean, we Democrats are so behind. How
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: come we don't have a project twenty twenty eight? Where
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: are our projects where we undo everything they do? Where
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: we public schools with nine billion dollars as opposed to
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: defunding them every time he Trump gets into office? You know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: where's where's our plan to increase the Supreme Court to
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: eleven and to put age limits? Where are where's our
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: goddamn project twenty twenty eight that's going to change everything?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: That?
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I wonder, John, if they're just all in this
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: together and we're all just getting played. Sometimes I wonder
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: because we see what they're doing, and we all where's
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the defense?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: And think about it? Four or five. Everything that's happening
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: now is people were saying was going to happen.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So if our dumb asses on the radio and
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you doing movies can see it, why didn't they see
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: it and create some type of defense against right right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I just wonder where if they're not all in
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: it together and we're just all getting played.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that. I can't allow myself to believe that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I believe that politicians aren't ambitious and they're always playing
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: chess moves and trying to figure out ways to get ahead.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of politicians who are very progressive
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and left are moving towards the center because they see
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: bigger sites, because they want to be presidential, because they
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: want to move up there. So they start shifting and
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: and you know, the progressive side with Pelosi, wanted to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: do a lot of radical things, and they told them,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you know, sit back and relax, you'll get your shot.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But they didn't get their shot, and they let it.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: They move everything to the center, and it looks like
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: everybody's just working for the man.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: I don't even think the center exists anymore because because
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be centered. I definitely don't want
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to be center right, And I don't even know if
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I want to be too center love. I don't feel
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: like we need something new.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Well, we never really had a left America. There's no
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: such thing as Antifa, Trump and the Republicans. There's no
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: such thing. We don't have a real left. It's just
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: left of center. Real left is the same thing as
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: the radical right. Real left wants to destroy, bomb, it
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: wants to do the same things the radical We don't
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: have that. We don't have any of that. We've had
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: some real left in Latin America that were gorillas and
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: and you know, civil wars came out of that because
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: they needed to change the system that was corrupt and damage.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: But we don't have real left in America. It's not
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a real left, it's a left of center.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So when you say left with center, what did that
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: look like to you?
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Like, like all the progressives like they want to change
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: things and make things better, but a real left wants
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: to disrupt thing, wants to blow up the what's the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: same thing the radical right wants to do it? You know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And that we don't have a real left, not that
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: we need a real left because that radical right is
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: crazy to destroy. January sixth, break into the White House
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and then say that they were all heroes' iss craziness.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say it, but I agree we don't
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: need it. But when you talk about the penduluin swing
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: back and home people accountable? Do what is the plan
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: of accountability that we hold people to, Like, what do
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: we actually do? Because we get things go soft and
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: then I.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Mean we have to have a project twenty twenty eight.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what we have to do. And from
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: up our next president, our next elected officials at the midterms,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: have a plan. What how do you undo? How do
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: you refund NPR, How do you refund public schools? How
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: do you fix the justice system? How do you put
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: back all these Latin black heroes, military heroes that were
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: taking statues that were taken down? You know how? You know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: how do we fix this this mess that that Trump
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: has done. You know, they wanted to privatize public schools,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: They want to privatize the post office, they want to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: privatize TSA. Those are the things that we have to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: undo and it's going to take a lot of effort
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: because now the deficit is the biggest it's ever been
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: in the history. Because he doesn't tax the rich like
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: they used to back in the After World. War two,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: all the rich were taxed at almost seventy percent, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the economy was the best it's ever been.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: And now I want a social democrat, yes, who supports
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I'm a social democrat who supports the capitalists, mixed economy,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: for supports a robust welfare state.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And that's going to hold everybody in the Trump aministration.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: You come on, I want that's all. That's what I want.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I want a social democrat who's going to hold the
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Trump administration accountable absolutely.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That's it. You give me that social democrat who cares
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: about capitalists.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Strong, who's tough. I want. I want to I want
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a president who who's just like Trump, as tough as Trump.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: That's what I want, but not as cruel. He wants
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to unite, not divide, because Trump just I mean. Jose Martin,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the great revolutionary Cuban poets, said there are two types
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: of men born into the world, those that creating those
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: that destroy. And you see Trump, he destroys everything, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it's easy to destroy. It's impossible to build and to fix.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: That's what's difficult. Have you seen destroy anything in the day.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that person that you said that you want,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that you want to see.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Right now, Newsom looks the best to me of all
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: the Democratic uh candidates. I mean, that's the best we got.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: But they're gonna point the California and they're gonna look
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: at the crime in California.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Hollywood is leaving like like this is I still it's
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: still the environment.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Come on, It's still the richest state in the country.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: California is still the richest state, still the most. Put
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: In puts the most money in and gets the least
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: out of it. All the Red states just take none
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: of them put In.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: And it's gonna be interesting to see how he defends
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: his record in California. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's gonna I
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: don't I don't see how he gets gets past that,
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: but maybe he can, and I don't know, I don't know.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Hope he figures that out.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I also seen you.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I've seen you. You tearing at the super Bowl tears
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of joy?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man? Why why did that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Performance mean so much? Because it's been the other Latin
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: people that performed at the Super Bowl. Why was that
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: one so emotional for you?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, because I think because of the situation that
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: we're living through. You know, uh, you watch enough, you
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: know TikTok and and Graham. You know, you see all
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: these horrors happening, and now they're now that the Ellison's
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: own TikTok. You know, you see less and less, uh,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know, and then you know, so to see bad
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Bunny there in Spanish, because you know, there's safely how
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I tried to sing in Spanish back in the sixties
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: and they arrested him after in Yankee Stadium, and and
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: then some some Mexican kid and uh wore Mariachi outfit
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: and tried to sing this American uh, this star spangled banner,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: and and they mistreated him and through things. So for
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: him to speak Spanish at Super Bowl was such a
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: powerful statement and and such a brave statement that it
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: was moving man to see all these Latin kids performing
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: on that stage, being their authentic selves. And I knew,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I knew all the signals that he was sending, that
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the old Puerto Rican flag that was banned, uh, the
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: electric plants that that that you know, that female's money
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: was robbed in Puerto Rico, so they didn't have electric
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: proper electricity. I saw all the little Easter eggs that
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: he planted, the little uh, the little boy and the
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: real marriage. It was all just so touching, man, to
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: see us celebrated instead of demonized, instead of being attacked.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: It was just overwhelming for me. You make me cry.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Now I know you got to leave, man.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: So my last question to you is, when it's all
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: said and done, what matters to you more being remembered
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: as a great entertainer or a cultural disrupt Oh wow?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Can I be both?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: A great entertainer that's culturally disruptive because I believe I
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: believe artists are political. I believe art is political. Entertaining
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: is a different thing. But I'm an artist, man, I can.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I like to create stuff that changes the world, that
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: makes the world a better place, and I think that's
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the place for art.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, definitely check out
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Dare Killer Nannies out today.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Make sure you watch it. Thank you for joining us.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I practice leg John was our joint.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Good morning, mch love much love, hold.
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: Up every day a wake up, pack your ass up
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: the Breakfast Club.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: You're finished, y'all done.