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Creator Series: Blue Talks Altered, Content Creation, and Growing the Community · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Well mean, oh my broad devil.
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  Speaker 2: Sear it's getting on even just Toself.
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  Speaker 3: Backed up Conn.
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  Speaker 4: Say, I just try to talk a bunch of ship
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  Speaker 4: until you start saying the thing. I never know what's
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  Speaker 4: actually gonna make it.
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  Speaker 3: It all makes it, haven't you noticed? It all makes it?
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  Speaker 2: Call?
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  Speaker 4: I don't listen to my own podcast. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 4: lie I do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't listen to my own podcast and either, but
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  Speaker 3: what's going on on it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm not on it, I'll listen to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, people always ask me do I listen to
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  Speaker 3: my own show, and the answer is no, I don't
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  Speaker 3: because I was there when we did it. I know
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  Speaker 3: it was. I already kind of listened to it in
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  Speaker 3: a way, right, yep.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: You figure out that the audio listening to it to
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  Speaker 2: make sure I didn't say anything stupid.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of and then we lose the whole episode.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, I feel like there's betting odds that can
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  Speaker 3: be placed now. I know this. I know this episode
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  Speaker 3: is supposed to be about Blue, but Dexter just said
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  Speaker 3: the one thing that I know he does every single episode.
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  Speaker 3: I just listen to know if I said something. Still,
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  Speaker 3: I mean so what's I mean, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I say something every episode, but like.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so what's the what? What is the what is
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  Speaker 3: the average amount of time before when you get into
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  Speaker 3: the episode before you're like shit, like I said something.
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  Speaker 2: Dumb, it's about like thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So that's thirty minutes, bullshit?
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  Speaker 3: Thirty So is it? Is it thirty one minutes? Over under?
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna start taking betting.
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  Speaker 1: Odds five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Five minutes in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I could just stay quiet this time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna avoid that.
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  Speaker 3: It's up to you, and like, if you want to,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to throw the game and throw some
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  Speaker 3: odds in our favor, we're all for it. Just know
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  Speaker 3: that this will be added to altered corner dot com
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  Speaker 3: or gg.
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  Speaker 6: Whoever gets a unique boiler work.
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  Speaker 3: Still, yeah, we're gonna start betting with altered cards. How
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  Speaker 3: long before Dexter says something stupid over under thirty minutes?
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And that way Cole Will Will Will Cole
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  Speaker 3: will get all the uniques. Ever, maybe I don't know,
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: but what's going on? Everybody? I'm the one, the only
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  Speaker 3: w oh okay, I e joined here by my normal
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  Speaker 3: cast of misfits We even got Felix back this week.
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  Speaker 3: But we have the guy who knows everything, mister Cole Robbie, you,
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  Speaker 3: we have that that young pop Dexter.
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  Speaker 2: Low Altered People.
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  Speaker 3: And even Felix is back this week. How was your trip, Felix?
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  Speaker 3: Where were you?
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't the riff Bound Eastern Regional with Blue and Dexter.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, but like where like?
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  Speaker 5: Where was it in Houston Regional? In Houston for riff.
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  Speaker 3: Bound with Are you guys like officially like over? I
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  Speaker 3: got all thanks? Thank you? Are you guys like officially
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  Speaker 3: in rift Bound now? Or what's to doal Not really,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do it casually.
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  Speaker 5: I just work with I use it.
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  Speaker 6: I work with universes all the time, so I might
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  Speaker 6: as well just get that one in there too.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, my answer is very much no. I don't really
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  Speaker 2: intend to play much Riftbound after this. It's just oh,
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  Speaker 2: shiny button. I can click on a link to apply
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  Speaker 2: for a job because I'm unemployed and then do something.
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  Speaker 5: So I did that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so glad that you guys are so invested in
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  Speaker 4: this game that you got picked to a judge. It's
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  Speaker 4: yea cool.
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  Speaker 2: You should have just you know, used AI on your
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  Speaker 2: interview form and you maybe you would have gotten picked.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine how the players feel. These are the guys making
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  Speaker 3: your team winning or losing decisions.
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  Speaker 4: There's a there's a reason that Blue was actually at
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  Speaker 4: the the better tables than.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Blue actually knew what he was doing. I didn't really.
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  Speaker 2: I was in charge of deck checks, and then the
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  Speaker 2: second day I was on side events, so much smaller stakes.
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  Speaker 1: Did you all actually ever do deck checks?
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  Speaker 2: I did probably about twenty the first day, but it
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  Speaker 2: took us like the first three rounds to get it situated.
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  Speaker 3: Like check like deck No this.
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  Speaker 6: I did a deck check that I resulted in a
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  Speaker 6: game loss, which I was pretty sad about.
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  Speaker 2: Cards that resulted in game loss.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you had forty three cards, four voice speakers.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's pretty bade yikes.
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  Speaker 3: Ouch, Now are these original deck checks like ducks checks?
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  Speaker 3: But four we even started, or like top sixteen checks
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  Speaker 3: like you're now throwing.
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  Speaker 5: That was I was doing side defense, so that one
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  Speaker 5: was at the start just one of the rounds. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: because we did deck checks in every round.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen one that egregious in
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  Speaker 4: Altered or Star Wars, where I've been at least well, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, it's not even their advantage if they had more
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  Speaker 1: than forty. We did have someone in the main event
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  Speaker 1: thirty thirty eight, which was you're trying to change.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you did have four voice seekers.
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  Speaker 1: No, I guess that's a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: What are you only only allowed three in a deck
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  Speaker 3: or something or what? Yeah, I don't know much about
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  Speaker 3: riffle the card that card deals damage and drugs cards.
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  Speaker 3: So it's good, pretty good, sounds good. Anything that says
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  Speaker 3: draw damage or do damaged drug cards usually it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, no matter what damaging card draw, no matter of card.
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  Speaker 3: Game, no matter what game you're playing. So, but this
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  Speaker 3: isn't about Dexter and Felix this week for episode two
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  Speaker 3: in this thing that I'm calling the Creator series and
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  Speaker 3: Cole is calling dumb.
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  Speaker 4: I never I never used the words dumb. I said
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  Speaker 4: that you've got this just random idea out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 4: that it's this thing we're doing now.
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  Speaker 3: So well, I mean, why isn't it a thing we're
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  Speaker 3: doing now?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's cool. I like it. It's just you
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  Speaker 2: just kind of came up with the idea out of
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  Speaker 2: nowhere that we're gonna grab some someone from the community
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  Speaker 2: each week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, at least two weeks, and then we go
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  Speaker 3: into hiatus for a little bit, and then we'll see
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  Speaker 3: what happens in the new year.
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  Speaker 1: Win's be quick coming.
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  Speaker 4: So moving on to the first.
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  Speaker 3: I was also waiting with dated breath. All right, first question,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna, we're gonna, we'll get into the at least
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, blues here.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody got the intro blue.
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  Speaker 3: Are you wearing pants for this?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm at my home.
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  Speaker 3: Does it not get cold where you live?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's cold, but I keep my house warm
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  Speaker 1: enough and I'm I'm really really hairy.
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  Speaker 4: Wow fair, I am also not wearing pants this time
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  Speaker 4: for a.
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  Speaker 3: Christ you non pants wear? So where where does this
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: come from? Where does the where does the blazer and shorts? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what's what's the what's the gimmick? What's the catch? Where
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  Speaker 3: does this stem from?
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  Speaker 1: Are we talking about like a Dallas?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I've only worn the blazer what like twice? Cool?
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  Speaker 4: I only remember Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: We were we were we weren't for the beginning season
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  Speaker 1: two a wall Stream. I remember we both got dressed up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, I wasn't paying attention to what was on
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  Speaker 4: your nether regions.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I wasn't wearing shorts either. Either way, Where did
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  Speaker 1: it come from the need to look amazing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh and you thought that shorts and a blazer looks good?
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  Speaker 1: Huh Well I got about ten more compliments than anyone
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  Speaker 1: else there, So yes, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: True, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: That's I mean, I wasn't there, But next time, it's
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  Speaker 3: always the next time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll wait for your compliment next time.
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  Speaker 3: Um sure.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, going going backward. Since the intro of this, this
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  Speaker 4: episode has been chaotic, which already is very in line
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  Speaker 4: with Blue normal, very normal. Who who are you?
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  Speaker 3: Blue?
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  Speaker 4: What do you? What do you are?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I got asked to be here forcibly and I was
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  Speaker 1: told that if I if I didn't come, that certain
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  Speaker 1: pictures would be released on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't other than that.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, I do some YouTube stuff, occasional commentary.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: Actually haven't done a lot of commentary lately, but apparently
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing it on this upcoming Monday on
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  Speaker 1: the A Wall channel. And yeah YouTube blue ok TV hashtag.
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  Speaker 3: Ed that doesn't sound like anything that mister Cole Robbie
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  Speaker 3: would do col You are you throwing out threats again?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you should always give threats some blackmail
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  Speaker 4: if you can.
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  Speaker 3: It's fair that doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Do things for you.
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like your style, but all right, fair enough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my style is more like baseball bat. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta do what you gotta do as you get older.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, it's onto the preliminary questions, the important questions of
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  Speaker 3: these episode. So number two, number one, what's your favorite
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  Speaker 3: kind of mountain?
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  Speaker 1: De none of them?
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: All right, guys, we are next week?
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  Speaker 4: Is why I tell you that Blue does not really
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  Speaker 4: drink soda or caffeine? And after the events cast?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fair, all right, I'll give you a pass
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  Speaker 3: on that one. What's your favorite girls scout cookie?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, what's the what's the name of that one?
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  Speaker 4: Here?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, let me look at it real quick, because
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  Speaker 1: I think this one has like multiple names. It's definitely
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  Speaker 1: not thin mints.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fair, that's a good start. Parts recently, Carmel Delight samoas.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well apparently that's what it is. It's samoas well.
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  Speaker 1: It says SAMs and Carmel Delights are the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: They are the same thing. It depends on what region
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  Speaker 3: you are in as to what they are called. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so we're doing well here now, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we're back on track. All right, and then what's your
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  Speaker 3: favorite pop tart?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Well, what's the wild Berry?
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  Speaker 5: Another good one?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like, yeah, we berry, Well,
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: let it go.
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  Speaker 1: Wildberry is top is a top tier pop tart. What
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: let me do you like something that's like s'mores or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what he likes.
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  Speaker 1: Obvious answer is obvious. Have a little bit of originality.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, I was around when smores pop tarts first
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  Speaker 3: came out, so it was a good time. And there's
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: still the all of us were even be around. Dexter
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  Speaker 3: definitely was.
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  Speaker 4: Not s'mores pop tart really in the mid nineties. Uh,
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: let's see, wow, nineteen ninety two. That's insane. I did
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  Speaker 4: not think they were that old.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: They are that that young? You mean? I guess, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that old.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's old.
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  Speaker 3: Dexter was not. Dexter was not around. Bite your tongue.
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  Speaker 3: That is old.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost thirty years.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: It's overuse me. Yes, I was born.
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  Speaker 2: That was no thirty three thirty.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: That was more than five minutes, right, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see, twelve minutes and eight seconds is where we're
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  Speaker 3: at for those For those of you who had twelve minutes,
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  Speaker 3: you're out. Sorry he's a little over so alrighty well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess we can continue with this. It's only twelve minutes,
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  Speaker 3: so we can go on to the question. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 3: am I starting? Is that how we're doing us? These
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: are like real questions. I mean, like I feel bad
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  Speaker 3: for a guy trying because we didn't give him even
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  Speaker 3: this much effort.
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  Speaker 4: I I talked to this guy like every single day,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, what the hell do you want
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  Speaker 4: to ask him? And you asked chat GBT what to
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: ask him?
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: So eleven inches?
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Oh that's hard or.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: That seems like an around circumference.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, everyone knows that Garth is what's the worst?
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  Speaker 3: Wow. I did not think that this was the show
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  Speaker 3: that would take this left turn totally my other show.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: But here we are still in here? All right? How
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: did you discover it? Altered Blue?
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I discovered Altered through another TCG that was also on
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  Speaker 1: Kickstarter around the same time, and uh, I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at that game and then I also noticed Altered was
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: going on at that time as well, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it looked better because it wasn't Ai and Crypto.
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  Speaker 3: That was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the part that kind of drew me
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  Speaker 1: in initially, and it reminded me of other games that
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  Speaker 1: I had played before, especially the digital the digital collection aspect,
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  Speaker 1: the Chaotic TCG.
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  Speaker 3: That was getting another try. So they were trying Chaotic again, No, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, this was this was a different The other game
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  Speaker 1: was called It reminded me of Chaotic, but Chaotic is
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: supposedly it's supposed to get re released, but it's never
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: going to get released either way. The other game was
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  Speaker 1: called Wonders of the First.
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  Speaker 5: That's also two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they were at gen Con this year
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  Speaker 4: as well or the year before, and I remember seeing
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  Speaker 4: their banner.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the same people that do bo Jackson Battle Arena.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: What what well? You kind of described it there, But
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: what what made you like actually get into Alter? That
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  Speaker 4: was it's a digital aspect, that was the main thing.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was digital collection, digital whatever. I saw that
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  Speaker 1: they had the BGA thing set up as well. Prior
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  Speaker 1: to that, I had been traveling a lot for work,
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  Speaker 1: So the idea of going to a local store was
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: not always in the cards. Now it's a little bit
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: more in the cards because I changed jobs that allows
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: me to work from home more. But other than that,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: being able to play a card game online, have digital cards,
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  Speaker 1: and not have to worry about physical cards all the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: time made things a lot easier, especially on leaving shit
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: all around the house because cards everywhere that aren't organized,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: as Felix can attest.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: To doing that right now, there you go. They got
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: like two boxes of rip out from packs. I sing
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: to organize those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you play a ton in person, have
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: a bunch of cards and fill up like three adventure
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  Speaker 4: passes every season.
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  Speaker 1: For four adventure passes yea, and not all at once.
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  Speaker 1: You do them sequential, right, yes? Yeah, I mean I
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: don't cheat if that's what you're saying, and put them
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: all on the same thing. I actually do each individual event.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So which do you prefer? Do you prefer online
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  Speaker 3: or in person?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the idea of doing in person
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  Speaker 1: and like meeting new people is always fun. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a matter of if you have the time to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I like the option to do online because I also
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: can just come home and randomly play a game on BGA.
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  Speaker 1: From that perspective, it's what I used to do all
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the time when I was trying to just lose time
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: playing Heartstone or something like that. Just digital games make
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it a lot easier than having to drive the ways,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: because I think the majority of stores I go to
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  Speaker 1: are actually close to, like twenty thirty minutes away from me,
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  Speaker 1: so I still go to them, but playing digitally makes
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  Speaker 1: it a lot easier. I did find out that there's
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  Speaker 1: a new store nearby me, but they don't they don't
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  Speaker 1: have altered Lots.
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  Speaker 3: Of stores don't.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have it yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well no, not at all.
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  Speaker 3: Lots of stars don't have altered.
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  Speaker 4: Call I said, yet, they don't have it yet.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll just go there and set up and yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Blue Blue isn't going to just say it's not there
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  Speaker 4: and give up like someone else, Like we'll we'll make
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  Speaker 4: it happen. World domination, Okay, I'll trust it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: France domination, France domination, and the workerund the world I have.
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  Speaker 3: I have no reason to doubt you. If you want
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to come to that in Wisconsin, that'd be dope.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to Wisconsin.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think i'll pass.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It's cold right now. It's nine degrees outside, so all right,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: you do here too. What is it right now? Forty four?
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  Speaker 2: Let's seventy in Houston.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's seventy degrees.
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  Speaker 1: It was actually pretty nice. It was pretty pretty nice
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: in Houston last weekend. I liked it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thinks so too.
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  Speaker 1: But then right now, yeah, I don't remember. I felt
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't like well, I guess we were inside
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  Speaker 1: a lot and we didn't really have to worry about
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it because it wasn't even that cold inside.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is cold to you.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: What's cold? I'm sorry?
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: From fifty four is called to you?
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: No?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I was just given. I was just making you feel bad.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Well, no, this isn't even our cold season yet. January
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: is still around the corner where we're almost ready to
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: get in the negative numbers. Yeah, good time.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I'm from Utah, so I'm used to the cold still.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I bet you if you went cold in magic underwear,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: yeah yep, alrighty. So what is your main content style
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that you do over at YouTube.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Channel blue ok tv hashtag got yeah content style? The
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: most things that I focus on are more so competitive
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: oriented type of interviews. I was doing general interviews with
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the community, but more often than not, I tried to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: contact players that have done well in events, starting with
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: one of the first bigger events over in France where
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: there was over a thousand players, and then kind of
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: just proceeded forward from there, and then other than that,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I just kind of filled in weeks on occasion with
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: other random altered content, but probably the most known for
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: with competitive interviews and or recaps of events when they
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: do occur.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And what made you choose that? Where you saw a
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: hole that needed to be filled and we're like, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: could do it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm always about filling holes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that one was coming. I really set
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that one up like a champ, didn't they.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I knew immediately after I left my lips. I'm like, fuck, we're.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Always about filling holes. But yeah, I know. It's just
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a thing of people. It was always a thing on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the discord, for example, where everyone was asking results for
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: different events, or just asking what decklists were or wanting
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to talk to people associated with those decklists to see
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: why they picked what they picked. You can look on
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: thirty nine cards and I think, yeah, thirty nine cards
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was still around then, it just wasn't auto updated with
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: every single event all the time. Now there's multiple people
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: working on it. Shout out to Tom there. But other
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: than that, people just wanted more information, it seemed like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and it. People were starting to make spreadsheets and random
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: other things. I remember they did it for the Arizona
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: event here in the States, where no one knew what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was happening a lot. So I just felt like a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: good idea to talk to the actual players that are
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: playing the game. Everyone always likes to hear from folks
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that are actually good at the game comparatively to Cole.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and me too, and you too, Yeah, anybody,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: but you Dexter. Yep, what fact, Cole wants to know
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: what faction you're playing right now?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I don't want to know that because the answer is
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: not good.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not I've been playing a lot
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of Basira correct lately.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: That Yeah, lots of people like Basia right now.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: So hot, right now, so hot.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: He's usually an artest player.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean I always have a SASM deck
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: when I need it kind of thing. But I've been
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: playing Besira most of the time if I if I see,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: for example, someone is playing sigism or they're playing something
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that's just okay, get over yourself. They don't play seg
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: as more, but most of the time playing the Sierra.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, I was I think I was playing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like yesterday or the day before, and there was there
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: was a fun ren deck that I played up against
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that beat me with a festival victory on day three,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and yeah, and there's literally nothing I could do about it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: They they played character day one. It was one of
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the pelican that falls asleep or something. I forget, what
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the fuck is that? Yeah, drowsy Dodo. Day two played
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the festival and then day three played the Drowsy Dodo
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: again as well as counting Sheep and fucked me.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Oh they also had a moon caregiver in reserve for
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the anchor, but either way, just card that anchor. Yeah,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: That's disgusting.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. As soon as I saw the counting sheep,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, I guess.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I'm yeah, I'm done.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody somebody's got to be the R in Jesus,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: and it clearly was that person.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So a fun idea I always liked counting Sheep just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: haven't played Moon yet, usually the last faction that will play.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: It's one of the decks that I want to build.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Cole just yells at me every time. Cole doesn't like
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: alternate out. Cole doesn't like alternate wing conditions.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, he doesn't likening in general.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He didn't choose Muna. So you know, what can you do? Yeah?
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Some some days are the hammer, some days are the nail.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's mostly nail.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you just like getting nailed. What can you say?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you do? What can you do? All right?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: What's this one misconception new players have about altered that
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you see all the time.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I see all the time. N FT is the common one,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but I don't get that that much anymore. That was
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: more like at the beginning. I think the thing that
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: people mentioned that they don't like a lot before even
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: playing the game are definitely uniques they do. They don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like the idea of the one of one card and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just variations of the card. I don't know if they
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You can explain it, but it's hard to explain without
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: actually showing them kind of thing, And so people just
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: have bad experiences with one of one cards. And they
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: feel like they is not a good idea, but uniques
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: are fun. Mike the game a little bit unique, if
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you will.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: And other than that, Yeah, the therapy that they have recently,
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: and one of the questions was what do people think
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: about like no uniques and stuff like that, right, Yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: I mean no uniques can be.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Interesting to see all the feedback from those surveys and
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: see what they say and do with all that information.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, unique can be fun. But I for Altered
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: itself as far as a main game type, I feel
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like you have to use uniques because otherwise what's the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: point of the game As far as things that make
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the game completely unique. Obviously there's the advancement on the board,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: but even that is still just a point system in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: some capacity with two lanes. So it's really the uniques
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that kind of make Altered altered and otherwise you just
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have two rarities and.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: At that point that becomes a thing. For sure.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: There are uniques for sure as a new random component
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: to the game that makes it where every game is
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: literally different in some way.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean uniques definitely do have their own problems.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I think the idea of I mean we saw it
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: at worlds where pretty much everyone was sharing uniques and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the bigger group that you have the better chance that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you are to have better uniques and do well. I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: know Rinku, who did end up winning, mentioned that that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: what they were the most worried about, So I mean
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it can matter. I guess sometimes it doesn't always matter,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: but I think that's the biggest issue that you can
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: get from uniques. Otherwise I do like them within the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: game themselves.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a post I'm pretty sure it was
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Wyverne who posted it as well to our slash TCG
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: asking about people's thoughts with Altered, and our reply to
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the top comment is picked up. Two starters at launch
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: learned about uniques and said games doomed haven't played since.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Like what, Yeah, I mean to be fair after the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: main advertising points.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people just go with the first thing that they
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: see and or here I mean to be fair. While
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I was while we were in Houston, I told people
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I was associated with Alter. They just said said what
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: or they said sorry, I heard that game died.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: So uh yeah, I wanted to say some of about uniques,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: but I see I'm outnumbered. What did you say? I
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: don't know what's your take. I'm not a fan of uniques.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think they bring much to the game. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: do think they, you know, like you said, like when
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you get a pile of people that are able to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: share unique so on and so forth, YadA YadA. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this was necessarily like the you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: best laid plans in the beginning right where that was
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the original, because clearly that probably wasn't the original idea
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: going into it. But now it's evolved into what it
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: is now because we're players and we're the spike. Players
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: are always here to break the game, right, That's kinda
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: that's kind of what spike players do, right, that's their job.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I don't my I mean, I understand the whole like, well,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: not decking becomes a thing, well, not decking becomes a thing,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and anything, right, even an altered necking is still a thing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: So I'm one that thinks I'm not a huge fan
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: of the uniques. I do think it is kind of
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: a barrier to entry for player, for newer players, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: that's it's something I would like to see revised maybe
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit, especially in competitive play.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be fairly revised as soon
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: as we get Secretations, because once Beyond the Gates is gone,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I mean there are still uniques and other sets. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: feel like Skyboune has a lot of good uniques too,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: but as far as a set that has brought in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: or brought the most to the meta, it's got to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: be Beyond the Gates, and I feel once that's gone,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: uniques don't become I mean, they're still going to be
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: important because they're uniques, but I don't feel like it's going.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: To be as the War.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is. Yeah, I don't
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: know what the word's going to be, but I feel
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like once Beyond the Gates is gone, we'll see a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: little bit more balanced towards it, and if not, the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: marketplace is always available for free to spend two hundred
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and fifty dollars on good uniques.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: I think people that don't play enough have have a
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: really warped conception of uniques in general, especially now going
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: into the fifth set coming out. If you just took
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: everything in a vacuum of Set one in two and
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: that's all you had, I could see a lot of complaints.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: But it's become a lot more exciting. They've worked really
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: hard on, you know, their system for uniques. And if
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I am given the choice to play with uniques or
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: not play with uniques, one hundred percent of the time,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I'm playing with uniques. Even if I'm going up against
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: someone who has, you know, five hundred dollars uniques, I
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: would still rather play with uniques.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I think the best way I've heard it described is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that you can play with decent uniques that don't cost
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of money and do well enough. It's just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: once you it's it's from the level of the best
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: uniques provide the most consistency, or if you're going for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a super niche deck where you need to draw a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: bunch of cards at dusk and knock somebody back on
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the tumult like somebody that's in here watching currently, then
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: then yes maybe. But otherwise it's just all about consistency,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily need the best ones. I feel
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: like you can get away with as long as you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: know how to play the game well enough, you can
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: still do well. Because even some of the players that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: did really well at Worlds didn't necessarily have the best
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: uniques for those specific heros.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: It's just the winning uniques in it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about for the qualifier that one time?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had two uniques.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And I mean even rinkud Greenky's uniques weren't like completely broken,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and even Vittorio's uniques that they were playing with weren't
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: crazy either, especially posts bug fix patch. So I just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: think better uniques bring more consistency, which obviously helps you
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: win games. But they're not always the necessity. Just get
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: better mostly, is what I'm saying.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: All Right, Is there any card mechanic skill issue, scaling
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: skill gap issue? Is there any card mechanic you think
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is being underrated by the community?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Card mechanic that is being underrated?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like the community in general does a good
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: job of trying to make a lot of stuff work.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: What's the latest thing everyone likes to sin lately? Rush?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Russia. I mean people were down on Russia initially, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: if you make it, deck have good cards?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: True?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Oh did you rest Dexter? Were you Russian?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I was not a hater.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know why they think I was. There there
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: were other people that were telling.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Me that there were other people that were haters.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I mean to be fair. Its on its face, rush it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It was it's counterintuitive to everything we've been playing altered
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: meta wise for a while, so it makes sense.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: But I mean it's not and get information before doing anything.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But RUSSI, if it gives you a benefit in your deck,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: works well around it, it works out fun.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not horrible. I don't think it's the best
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: thing out right now, but I mean it's it's there
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: underrated though, Yeah, I don't think there's anything particularly underrated
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: as far as mechanics. I'm I'm a sabotage fan, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I honestly think sabotages can be pretty shitty lately.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: If we're being honest, a new astro was gonna mention exhausting.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Exhausting is not under the exhausting.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It was the entire meta forst like everyone was everyone
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: making exhausting based decks. Like it's not underrated, you're saying
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was okay, Well, either way.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: I don't fit anymore.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Jack Frost has I don't still a highly played card.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and there's a lot of there's a lot
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of counter to it in general, where sometimes people just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: want exhausted cards in their deck or just resupplying as
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a whole. There's a lot of cards now that let
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: your opponent resupply, which is not always the best. But yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I don't anything that's been used. I'm trying to think
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of something that was never used consistently as far as
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a gay mechanic, and the only thing that I'm thinking
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: about that. So, for example, Hooked is a really big
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: card that everyone likes. Right, it became a meta part
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of decks as far as moving characters from side to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: side and or drawing cards. But we never got Ride
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the by Frost to be a big card, and it's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: kind of making me sad. But you know, maybe complete
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: character switch off per expedition.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else. Oh, never mind, I just
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: figured out something. Okay, So the Deer, right, you can
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: do the single the single terrains, the use of some
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of the cards, being able to move those terrains individual terrains,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: being able to move those from one spot to another.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that a lot. I've seen people making
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the Deer work, but I haven't seen Yeah, I haven't
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: seen them use those specifically all that much. That's the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: best thing that I can think of.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: So what's the most yeah, trying to use those as
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the one of.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: So what's the most overrated playing that's not a mechanic.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I'm a sabotage lover, but
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I think sabotage is kind of overrated in general.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Not always.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I think beyond the gates it was better. I think
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: past that it's it's gotten less and less good. The
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: problem with sabotage is that, yes, sometimes it's good you
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: prevent your opponent from using the cards in the reserve,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but the the bigger problem with sabotage is that you
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: don't force your opponent to lose resources as far as
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: manna by playing the card in the first place, then
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: getting rid of it, you're just getting rid of it. Well,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: well they haven't used it before and.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Their resources or something else.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so sometimes it's just bad. Sometimes it can
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: be good, but I think it's more situational. People I'll
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: use or to spy to this day, and when I'm
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: playing artists most of the time, i'm if I'm I'm
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: planning on drawing a bunch of cards anyway or getting
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of resources, and if someone uses a three
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: costs or to spy early on in the game. I'm
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: happy because it's minimal stats and I can get around it,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and they just use a three cost card to essentially sabotage.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But I still have five or six men a left
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: or even four men and left on day two that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I can get around it, and that is not as
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: good as it once was. I still miss rare or
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to spy and being able to use that, but that's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that's long gone.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I still I still seek a lot of garrick
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: that have sabotage, is because I can keep reusing it,
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like sabotage in general.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just easy to put your eggs in the
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: sabotage basket too soon. It's kind of what you're saying.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's just a thing of resources.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I think your point about the moving markers is really
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: good as well. I would think that there's probably a
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: good suite of uniques out there that could do it,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: and I have not in any tournament seen anyone that's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: kind of built in the deer deck towards that, So
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: maybe someone should be the first.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think we think, as far as
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Worlds is concerned, we were a little bit too close
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to see anything anything crazy different. So maybe that's the issue.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And I mean we've had tournaments since then, but nothing
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that's been like super high end competitive in order for
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: people to want to bust something out like that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think for me, what I've realized over
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks is the most underrated thing
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: overall is actually Trial by Frost. I think kids definitely. Yeah, Well,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: if you hear how people talk about Trial by Frost,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: you'd understand.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I think about that too.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember it is. I mean, technically, I think
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: it is the weakest set. I think I can agree
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: with that. Every time I have a conversation around the
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: uniques and Trial by Frost and some of the cards
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: and even just the theme of it, I'm like, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: that set actually gets a lot more hate than it deserves.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Alrighty, moving into twenty twenty six, Yeah, what's your most six? Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: what is your most What are you most excited for
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: to see altered? And we're what's the most excited altered
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: thing you're excited looking forward to in twenty twenty six?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Well, we just had the OP announcement, so that's cool.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Excited about that. I think organized play and competitive stuff
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: drives communities to a certain extent, Altered does as far
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: as like casual communities, at least in the States, is
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit harder to come by, so being able
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to have the competitive outline is nice as far as
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: getting people to stay interested within the game and not
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: disappear is ideal. Other than that, though, I am excited
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: with like the collectors items and the ability to give
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I guess technically stuff that you're trying to pull rather
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: than just hope you get a good unique. Hopefully that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: kind of helps out the game in general. I don't know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it turns out. I'm not
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: sure if it's late or it's at the right time,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: but we'll see it works out. So I'm excited for that,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but mostly collectors' items, trying to find something as far
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: as specific pool and the organized place stuff that just
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: got announced. Excited for that, and it maintaining the competitive
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: environment within Altered and giving people something to do instead
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: of complain in the general chat.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Altered players do like to complain.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I think every Internet person internet person likes to complain
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: in general.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not wrong. What is something you think could
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: really put a spark in the States to make Altered
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a main staple.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Five million dollar World Championship more money.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: That's the big one.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're telling me spark wise, is it going
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to happen? Absolutely not. No, that kind of that kind
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of money is not going to be involved. But if
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: we're talking about stuff that gets people to play a game,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: prizing does get people to want to play a game.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing to it. I guarantee you if
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Altered announced a five million dollar tournament and in Paris
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: end of the year, we'd have a large amount of
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: people from different games playing the game. But reasonable things.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Well, what was prizing this year for Worlds?
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: There was no cash on the line, right, No, not
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that I'm aware of. I wasn't credit. Yeah, so I
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: come from I don't know if five million dollars does it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, it does, for sure. I think it definitely does.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: All you have to do is look at how people
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: reacted to the new prizing online tournaments. And I saw
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: multiple people being like, I'm actually gonna play on BGA now,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: and all that is is ten random uniques for first place.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: So here's here's what I'll tell you and Dexter, you
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: were a part of this. Key Forge was offering a
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: lot of money that first year they came back for prizing.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Yep, that didn't bring it, did not really increase the numbers.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Didn't push the needle at all. Yeah, but like what.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: This was twenty twenty two, I think I believe maybe
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: twenty three.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: No, I get that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: That's another thing too.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: One of those two twenty twenty three, I mean Vault
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Tour winners were walking away with five thousand dollars. Second
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: place was like three thousand, and I think top eight
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: was a five hundred bucks apiece, if I'm not mistakes.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: First place was like twenty or something.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: World's first place twelve five.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know, you know what the problem is with
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: keyboards though? What's that they they announced that and put
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: it out and then never advertised it or marketed it
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: something he was.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Not advertised anywhere.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: But that's what I was about to say, Like this
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: for as years concerned, like I had never heard about
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard of key Forge, but I'd never
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: heard of anything crazy as far as prizing or anything
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: in that time period. So it sounds like a marketing issue,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: not that I mean all games have marketing issues to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: some capacity.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I mean it's just about marketing. I don't fifty percent
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: of marketing doesn't work.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: This is what Christian T. Peterson says. He says, fifty
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: percent of marketing doesn't work, and we don't know which
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: half works, so we won't do any at all.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Well, hold on, last, great, hold on. That last phrase
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: is something the wook he added many years ago. He
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: just said, the problem, the problem with marketing is fifty
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: percent of marketing doesn't work, and we don't know which
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: fifty percent it is. So then I kind of said,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: so we do zero. That makes sense.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Tell him to hop on a call with me and
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I will tell him what fifty works.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Listen, I've been trying to get into that team's meeting
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: for four years now and I'm still not there.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I don't know either way. It's all
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: about knows.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: My name and he knows what I look like, and
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: he avoids me like the plague. When we're in Minnesota,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: you would you would think I was I was giving out,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: like literally the bubonic plague if you got too close
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: to me. By the way he he is always at
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: the other end of the room of wherever I am.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I would have just guessed he I assumed that he
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: thinks you smell or something plague work.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would assume that time. Yeah, he treats me.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: If you don't like the five million dollar answer, I
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: have another one.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not saying that money doesn't work. But
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: like we've seen games like what was that a grand Archive?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I mean they had like one hundred thousand dollars grand
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: you know, grand prize and stuff like that, and they failed. Like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know if money is the answer.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: No, I mean archive is still going.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, realiant, I thought it was done.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a temporary answer that can get you what
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you need, and what you do after that is kind
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of up to you. In my opinion, the problem with
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Altered is that it doesn't have an existing ip that
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: people want to flop to. It has a cool idea
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in the sense of using historical figures and mythology and everything,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: but that only gets a certain subgroup of people that
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: are interested in that kind of thing. So the next
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: thing that you have to fall back onto is what
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: gets the other TCG players interested in playing a card
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: game other than mechanics and everything Like that if you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: don't have a well known game developer from like Magic
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: or something doing something for you, then probably money and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that's usually what it goes.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: And then what you do with the.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Initial attention afterwards is kind of up to you and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: how you capitalize it. A lot of games, whether it
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: be in cards or gaming or whatever else, just lose
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: it after a year or two, right after they get
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: all that money invested, and it doesn't matter. So agreed there.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: But if we're talking an initial surge, money, money, money, money, money,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Call what's your You said you had another one for me?
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you take all of the TCGs that have
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: a popular IP and maybe even y fus and take
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: them out back and shoot them in the head. And
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: that's how alter grows in the US.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: So yeah, podcast of.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: A mass murder makes altered grow.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I'm saying murdering a card game. So it's like a
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: it's not like a person.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: It's metaphorical or metaphorically got it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Uh So, It's kind of like when I heard about
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Universes and how they have like all this money to
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: buy all of these ips and everything, and they got
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: picked for riftbound. No offense to Felix, But I was like, now,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: how do they have all this money? Like what?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: And you the only one?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: It's got to be I p power Like I I
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: went to the website. No one plays it around me,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: not anywhere close, Like, what what are they doing? And
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: they have tons of ips?
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Right, I was gonna say, well, they have ips, that's
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: what they're doing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: That's that's what kind of I guess that's what gets
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: the product moving, not the organized play something else.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, at least much to be desired, but the product
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: does sell. Did you see it at Walmart?
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And that's that's one of the main things. If you
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: if you can get into retail and it's popular enough
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: from that aspect, that's also a thing. People just see
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: it randomly and want to buy it and stuff. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: still occasionally get caught looking at the Target aisle just
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to see what's there kind of thing. Definitely not Pokemon cards.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Those are what.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Those are gone.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Those are always gone. But everything else just looking at
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: it and just always being that in cap kind of
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: thing of you see it and pay attention to it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: because otherwise it's the only people that know about Altered
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: are people that are already at your local game store
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: and they played it one time a year ago when
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: someone was doing doing a learn to play, and I
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: liked it, but I didn't really see a point of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: sticking around kind of thing. So yeah, not to be
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: doom and gloom by the way, but no, it's not.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's a question A lot of people ask
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: about smaller niche games, right, just how do we get
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: more interest in it from other people? How do how
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: do you steal a little bit of that magic community?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe magic You don't want the magic community. I don't
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: know some of them, do you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: Magic is exploding as well with universes beyond now, like
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of people are angry, and you hear a.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: Lot of the angry people, but the amount of product
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: that sells is insane.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean magic's been dying for thirty years, still
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: not dead, but you.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Know, people leave and they're tired of it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the one person leaves and
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: then there's two kids to fill their spot.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: No, it's just they always come back, is the problem.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: It's like cocaine.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: It's just.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people come from magic and
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: then they said, oh I'm tired of magic. I need
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: something else. To play and then a new set comes
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: out and they're like, sorry, I gotta get back on it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I also commander cards that I need for my
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: Commander deck at they start playing again.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then then they're gone forever. I still have
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a I still have a Foil card from someone that
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I got for them just because they liked it and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: have never showed up since a final Fantasy set got
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: released from Magic.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Magic is a weird edge case scenario that
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think it basically figured out yet but somehow
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: still doing well. All right. What kind of content you
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: wish more creators were making for Altered.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Probably base level content as far as UH learned to
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: play type of stuff, just mechanics of the game. It's
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: hard to say, because at some level we need something
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: as far as content that will get people interested to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: take a look at the game, is what I'm thinking,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: because I do competitive level stuff and that's not always
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: going to be what people are interested in. And I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: know other people that do gameplay, but probably gameplay stuff.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a lot of gameplay specific
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: items as far as what people want to make as
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: a whole and not just gameplay from a perspective of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I recorded myself on stream for three hours and then
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I put it on YouTube, but actually edited content that
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: people are commenting while they're doing plays and everything like that,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and just that as a whole. I think one of
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: my one of like the things that I watch I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: used to watch consistently as far as altered content outside
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of watching my own content for thirty seconds so I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: can get the view is l e O stuff where
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he was consistently making new decks, explaining what he's doing,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: why he's doing it, and cards and everything like that,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: and it made me want to try other stuff and
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: be more interested from that aspect. So I think that
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: would be helpful in general, effort based gameplay content would
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: be ideal. And I don't know, I haven't seen much
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the answer that everyone gives is more gameplay.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: And every time I'm like, I'll upload my Tuesday sessions
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: and then they go terrible and I'm like, there's no
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: reason I should upload this to YouTube. Nobody wants to
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: watch two hours of me losing games or something like that,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: and those take so much time and effort to edit.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: If you're going to do that much content.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not easy. But I mean as far as
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: stuff that gets people interested and keeps them there, probably
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: that because it appeals to competitive folks and it compeals
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: appeals to the average person who just wants to play
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit better.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Losing content to me and I'll chop it down for you.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: Call.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Look, you'll make it for your sixty hours. Do you
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: work a week?
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Let's not talk about how often I work a week,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: all right. I try to not think about it. And
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: it's only sixty five okay, one day, it'll be shorter
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: one day, all right. How has the alter community supported
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: you as a creator so far?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Subscribers and views, that's what meant. Yeah, other than that,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it it's a thing of just I don't know, mentioning
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: me in different aspects as far as saying they like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: my content. Actually getting people that meet me in person
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: that have said that they watch stuff that I've done
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: is cool because I don't really expect it because it's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: not like I'm making any money on it. But just
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that just saying that they like the content, appreciate the content,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and actually watch the content, as far as support is concerned,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: is always nice. And then obviously any mentions in the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: public and or on the discord telling people to subscribe,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: kind of behind all my payments to a guy, trying for.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Him to promote me, but he's com up for the kneecaps.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I have to I have to work
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: on that. But yeah, just that kind of thing, people
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that do that, and just I don't know, just that overall,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I think the pair of stuff, getting the package that
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Cole sent over with other people that just sent things
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that were nice was really cool. Just realizing there's people
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: out there that you may not always interact with consistently,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: but they are where who you are, and they appreciate
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the things that you do. You know, it's very sweet.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, folks.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: So what's the hardest part of being an altered content creator?
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: We don't make thousands yet, staying hard is the problem?
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Is the hardest part, staying hard, staying just I don't know.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It's not a motivation thing. It's more so just finding
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the correct type of content that you think would be helpful,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that people actually want to watch kind of thing. And
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: not from a views perspective, but from a perspective of
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: My original goal with content was to try to promote
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the game more in North America. Take all of the
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: people who are doing really well and it's popularity in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Europe and try to bring it over to North America
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: so people can see what they're doing and either try
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to mimic it or just get them more interested in
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the game. So I think the hardest part is just
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: finding what kind of content people actually want to watch
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: that'll help it spread more like the plague kind of
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: thing and or any other infectious disease, you know, I'm trying.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I guess what I'm trying to say. Oh,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a guy trying just came up came back eight. I'm
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: gonna need you to post in the general chat describe
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: either way. But yeah, just basically what I'm trying to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: say is I am trying to be the person the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: trying to be the that guy in a frat in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: college that's spreading venereal diseases as much as possible. I'm trying.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be that for Altered within North America.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: But the venereal disease is the game, right and finding
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: finding that correct way to spread the disease is the
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: hard part. Well, if you guys can associate associated, yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: associate altered with I don't know, chlamydia or something, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: then then you'll get what I'm saying, right, So.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: What I got I was I was not thinking chlymydia.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: I was thinking of something else, something that can maybe
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: keep being cured with pelling and selling.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, isn't chmydia curable?
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: It is curable, curable, but I don't know.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: What what it's. It's it's specterial, right, So that's why
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted to say covidia and not like syphilis, because.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I think our our bad boy meter is dipping far
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: into the red this episode.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: It's gone south in a hurry. Again, not the show
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: of the two shows that I do, not the show
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: that I thought would go there. But I mean, this
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: is where we live, right, So that's it's okay, you
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: know what it's It's fine. I don't know again, Cole,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: you're the one who gave us that nickname. I don't
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: know how you came up with that, but you did.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: There's a history of it somewhere. You can find it
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: either between. I mean, you probably have to listen to
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: both us and here's guide to his Gartha but there's
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: it was a bit a long time ago that just happened.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I do listen to both of well, I'm on one,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I listened to the other one. I don't remember. I
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: don't remember it.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It was like it was a long time ago or more.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like a year ago.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Right, No, we've barely been doing this podcast for a year, Dexter,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: We talked about this before. You guys have talked about
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: this before.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: It's been over a year.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: It's like a year and a month.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe that might be true.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: But what what's his most popular video?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: That is my next question? What's your most what what
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: video posts are you most proud of, the most proud
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: of I'm most proud of.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely definitely my reveal videos. Those are those
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: are my coup de gras as far as putting effort
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: into things and making it look cool kind of thing.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: They're not the They're popular, but they're not the most popular,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: but they're they're they were the most fun. As far
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: as different videos that I've made, between Blue Cap and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Mobile Armory for child by Frosts, they're both pretty fun.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: I would actually say your Mobile Armory probably is your
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: most popular video if you're going off of views, it's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: the mostly onngres by like ten views, but the most
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: popular by views is my last one with the World's Thing.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't really truly count shorts, but that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: is that is correct. But I was looking at it
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: because I was just interested. I was like, what video
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: technically does perform the best for both of us and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: reveals that our long form videos are both of like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: our most popular videos.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: What what the type of thing that got that's that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: got a good amount of views and technically for an
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: old video still gets views. Is actually my two v
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: two video as far as metrics are concerned, I still
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: get random surges of people watching that video for some reason,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure why. Maybe there's just not a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: lot of two v two content out there. Yeah, that's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: that's one that on occasion I'll just see it doing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: better than even a somewhat recent video kind of thing.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: So that's that's the one that catches me by surprise.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: As far as just like a video specific one that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: people have liked, I guess, alrighty.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, you're just thinking of two B two. There
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: isn't a lot of it now that.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I think about, there's really not. I think it is
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: something that should be focused more. And this is just me.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: I really wish Altered had a a better multiplayer format.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of the available one right now.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: It's very good.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the formats.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: It works just fine. It's just popular.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the formats the problem. I think
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the problem is is that the focus is trying to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: get the main game popular and kind of doesn't. TV
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: two doesn't do you any good if the main game
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: isn't as popular kind of thing, so.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: You can't play TV two online.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: So well, I wonder how that goes, right, because, like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, Magic's most popular format right now, without a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: doubt is Commander, which is a multiplayer format. Yeah you
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, And a lot of people get
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: into the main game through a Commander product.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I just I keep trying to find you both with
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: key Forge and Altered that equivalent. Yeah, I just haven't.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: I keep grasping at straws and just nothing's there that's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: engaging enough. I think that would grasp a lot of people.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's also from a case of there not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: necessarily being a lot of people too. I mean, we
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: have a good amount of people within the community, but
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: not as much as Magic did when they created Commanders, right.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: And you need you need a certain amount of personalities, right, Yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: so I mean not not everyone's built to do videos
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: or podcasts or whatever the case may be. So you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: gotta have a certain screen quality to you too, right.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I have a face for radio, So that's why I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: do podcasts.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: That's fair. I have a face. I will not be
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: spreading any chlamydia.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Unless you go to a Ghostbusters convention.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened the one time. I'm gonna skip this
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: one here. If you could influence one design or organized
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: platus for Altered, what would it be besides adding five
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: million dollars?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I do think obviously more
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: money into it would be helpful. It's hard to say,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: because I don't I don't think adding IP at this
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: point is going to be helpful the same way other
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: games can do. You know, I think the identity of
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Altered is supremely focused off of its own unique setup,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: And the unfortunate thing is unique ips just aren't as
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: popular right now, especially with so many things that are
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: as far as different card games out there at the moment.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: The ability of unique ips, though, has longevity only due
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: to monetary values.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if it hits, it hits, right, But
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the problem is it is hitting this key.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: For just still around. And I think the reason is
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: still around is because it doesn't have an I. You're
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: not having to pay somebody for the IP behind it, right,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: So I think Altered can take the same scope as
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: like a key Forge if they could, just I don't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: know that. The biggest fear I have is that somehow,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: like I don't know if two point five million every
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: every cycle is sustainable. Maybe it is, and maybe I'm stupid.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Cole says it is.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Well, the so your your points kind of counteract each
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: other as well. Because key Forge is around because it
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: does nothing and it has no overhead, and we're talking
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: about how to grow altered. Key Forge is just alive,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: and Altered could be just alive, but I don't I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: don't think they want to do that.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: No, And honestly, the thing that always comes to mind
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: for me in particular with Altered is is not necessarily
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Altered as a game, because I think the game itself
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: is fun and it's a good game, and a lot
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: of the people that have played it isn't the issue
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: with the game itself. I feel like if you're gonna
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Altered is ever going to be
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: a game that's going to grow to the extent of
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: being as popular as obviously not as the bigger card games,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: but even on the level of a game like a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Lorcana or a Flesh and Blood or something to that level.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: So I think one thing that I see a lot
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: of complaints about within the card game community. People don't
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: or at least the stores don't like TCG player, for example,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: and they use it out of necessity because TCG player
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: is TCG player, and everyone uses TCG player. But in
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: my opinion, if other games and or things like Altered
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: find a way to use internal based marketplaces and they
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: control their own market from that aspect and don't outsource
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: it to a third party like TCG player, and utilize
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that in some capacity, then that could be something that's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: potentially a big boon. What I've always said is that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: if Altered wanted to the developers wanted to use the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: marketplace system that they built for a different capacity for
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: other games and everything like that that they could sell
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: for money. Great. Do I think that's something that could
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: actually happen. Probably not, But I'm just trying to think
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: of unique ideas or unique things that Altered is doing
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: that the others that is not in the space that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: can be used outside of Altered, so that Altered can
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: benefit and doesn't have to rely on that two point
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: five million that you were talking about key every single
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: set kind of thing.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I literally earlier today on stream was talking
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: to a guy trying because I was playing Magic Arena
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: and I was like, how do I how do I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: sell these cards I don't want? Like can I put
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: these on the market or whatever? And he was like, no,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: you can't. And I realized, like damn, Like the system
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: is is so nice. Like I know, it gets a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: ton of flack for like, oh they didn't have it
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: on launch and blah blah blah, but man, it is
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: very nice, and when you go to a game that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: doesn't have it, you you kind of realize just how
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: nice it is.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the marketplace itself isn't always great, but the concept,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I think is what I'm pushing at more than anything.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: And they've obviously had to put effort into it.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, hm, I wonder if lack of a strong
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: and I can't say it's not strong because I don't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: have numbers to back it up, but lack of an
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: lack of a somewhat weak secondary market is what kind
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: of is hurting altered. I mean it is.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is concentrated in its own personal marketplace right
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: outside of just a really random third party ones, so
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: that doesn't help exposure.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, yeah, that is the issue. I mean,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: stores can't price them because they don't know what they
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: cost and anything that's a unique. In order to price uniques,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: you need to play the game pretty much, right, Yeah,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: and that's not a store owner's prerogative kind of thing.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: They like the ability of just seeing what something costs
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: because what it's cost and that's why TCG player. Yeah,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: and that's what TCG player does well, right, they found
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: an area where they can excel. And now people use
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: it out of necessity. But I know people that just
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: don't like using it out of necessity as well, so
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: due to different business practices, not necessarily the actual product.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I don't know it. I think the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: idea of having a controlled marketplace can be helpful, is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: just finding the right way to use it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, what are some of your goals
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: for Altered Creation in the next next six months?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Jumping back on the horse a little bit more now
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: that we got organized play announced in everything, I think
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: that'll be helpful. Just keeping up with everything along those lines.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Seeing new players pop up is would be nice. I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: finally got to the point at the end of this
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: year where I started reinterview people. I try to always
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: get new people, but if they keep winning, it's hard
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: to interview new people. But I think the idea of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: getting new people joining the game and doing well is
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: always a positive thing for any title. So hopefully that
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: happens and I can talk to more people from that aspect,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I guess as far as goals are concerned, And yeah,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: just maintaining the current community at the very least within
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: North America, rather than losing folks to other card games
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: or want to play new card games or go back
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: to old card games that they can't get away from,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: like crack Cocaine.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: What do you do you know the name t f z.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: T dash FC like as a Discord person an Altered player,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: it doesn't ring a Bell offhand.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think think when you are casting on Monday,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: you might see some new names, which has been really
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: cool to you know, witness. She won the singleton event
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: on Thursday with Suebash five and zero, so that was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: really cool. And I think she's been playing a lot more,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: is kind of what Quett said. And then I've seen
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: some names like I feel like originality was gone for
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: a little bit and originalities back. So I think this
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: season and then with the organized play support that they
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: just announced, I think we'll see some new and old
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: faces which will be dope.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: All right, kind of into the last the last Hurrah here?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: What is your most tilting altered moment.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Tilting watching people play and deciding to man a magical training.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Okay? And what is one hero you want to love
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: but just can't And why is it an orders hero?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Why is it an order?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: Here? U?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think as far as characters or
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: heroes as a whole. I don't play a lot of Moona.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I think the only Moona deck I've ever made is
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: a Argent deck. But I don't really have a want
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to like MODA heroes, so that's not there. I wish
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Sierra was better. Sierra's probably like in Trial by Frost
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Days and nilim Meta was probably one of the more
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: fun times that I've had playing Altered So I know
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: someone was mentioning Exhaust before that was a big Exhaust days.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I wish Sierra was up there. I did notice never mind,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't notice anything our cards released for next set.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Cool depends on which ones I think by a guide
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: trying's calculation, we have forty three percent of next set revealed.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm not going to go over specific things,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: but I've noticed things that contribute to the possibility of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: maybe Sira being okay, so maybe that's cool for Seeds.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But yeah, yeah, I'm trying
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: to think. I'm not a big Subash player, and I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: call him Subash. Yeah, I mean, I don't really hate.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I wish they need to revert war bring warrew back.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Just all right, moving on.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I've been saying this for so long.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much Blue for the supporters.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: It's sad that Wren left before you got the revert
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: waroo in there.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not reverting WARU.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Let's give them one of the abilities back.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Let's answers and all, yeah, alrighty Cole, what have we
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: got for the Patreon this week?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Robinhood would be crazy.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: So again again and it's fine.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Uh so, I mean before we asked the question that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: we'll all answer, including Blue. There's also kind of a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: conversation in the live chat about changing current heroes. I
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: will say, unless it's sigismart, just don't expect any like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: set one hero to be changed. As unfortunate as it
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: is to say, just give up on them, kill them
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: in a fire, leave them. Sometimes things are meant to die.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: It makes it more meaningful.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: So onward and just remember all the good times you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: had with that hero. Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: It's like when I used to play D and D
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: a lot, people were always so so scared to have
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: their character die because then they didn't want to make
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: a new one. And they're like, oh, but I love
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: my little hobgoblin Boburton, And I'm like, well, if he
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: dies in a fucking badass way after doing some cool shit,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: then you know what, that's fine.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: Never heard of the class Boburton, but I'm interested.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the person's name is Boburton.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: That was the name Goblin the name of the Okay,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, that's a hell of a class.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: What does that class two?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: I think I'm ready to leave set one behind. We've
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: talked about it a lot, and I do think I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: would hope that they only get rid of the top
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: performing hero of each faction. But we'll see what happens.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: For question, gav Kenny has been breaking all the rules
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: and just put it, been putting a question on YouTube
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: comments every time what product would you like to see
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: be added as an add on to a future game
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: found campaign? And this question I wouldn't call it like controversial,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: but I would say it's very divisive. You have the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: one side that loves you know, the plushes, and then
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: you have wood plushies who hates fun and only wants cards.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: So what because I don't like plushies. I hate fun.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's not Worly Ball all, he don't care.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Worlli Ball Champion twenty twenty six right here, mm hmm. No,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I just don't like plushes. I don't understand. I don't.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: I don't understand. I get why people like well no,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: actually I don't understand why people like them. I don't
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: just don't enjoy plushies. I'm sorry.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, side note, Houston Tibbers went fast. Everyone loves tibbers.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: I don't think you slay the same Wookie. If it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: was a macpen plushy, if.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: It was what, No, I wouldn't I still wouldn't get it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: I just I just don't like pluffy. I'm not a plus.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not a stuffed animal person. You're more a that's right.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm looking to have more sex with robots in twenty
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: twenty six. Yep.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: We we can get into some dangerous waters if we
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: start crossing those two topics together. So this is this
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: is a good question because it goes in line with
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: the game found survey and some of the questions they
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: asked and what you would like to see.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: I am poor, So this.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Question is is hard for me to answer in that regard.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: The one thing I'll say is I'm very concerned. I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: guess about the figures that they mentioned, and my response,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: my response would be if it's like hero Forge figures, like,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: no thanks, I think that's just like a waste of plastic,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: kind of mass produced trash. But if it were like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: anime figurines, I think altered could have some very cool ones.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: And no I'm not talking about like Booby wi Fus,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: but just like some really cool statues. I think I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: would be more inclined to get one of.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: I was thinking more of like uh, like you know,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: a magic used. I don't know, maybe they still do
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: the statues like you've ever seen, like the the dragon
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: that they have a lot of. Some people have that one,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: the Shiven dragon.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Speaking of Boobie wife, who's though cold? Does
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Alter need more goon?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, if you're if if we're if we're talking about success,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: then yes, and I have good news for people on
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: the next upcoming sets. And that's all I'll say.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be there's gonna be more tn A. Uh
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah, I mean I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Yeah,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: something like that would be cool.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: I mean they really had a missed opportunity. But yeah,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: they had a missed opportunity with the Leviathans, you know,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: but you.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: Know those would go hard, all right, So look at
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: look get that picture right there, and then I'm going
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: to show you a card. And the people that are
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: fans of the lore of this probably already know. But
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: take that Naruto statue and make it that nice.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: Bam, that'd be pretty dope.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Sky did have a foot fetish aspect, and there will
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: be another subsect of there.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: There will be more foot fetish in twenty twenty six
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: for Altered.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: No different kind of Anyways, what does anyone else have
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: any answer for the.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Question more foot fetish.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I really like the Collector Boosters. I think that they
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: should keep doing that for every set, keep that as
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: an add on.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Do you do you feel like they could improve the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: rarity makeup of.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Collector Booster for sure, they could mix it around, make
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: it better.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of I think the main
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: complaint I see about them is people say that, like
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: there's comments in the Collector Boots right now.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I do think it is too expensive for what the
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: rarities you have, and it needs to be shifted up
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit to make it more worthwhile. But I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: still like the idea.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: All right, I would like more exclusive items, not like
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: signed things, right, I think signed things are kind of cool,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: whether it's by artists or by creators.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: Well, if you wanted a signed Grand Bois, you should
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: have just asked I would send you.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: On No, not at all what I was going. I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: think sign things are cool. It's just it's something that
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: I wish more games would explore, you know, like magic
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: has always had like artists, you know, like Mark Poole
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: and he'll cut you know, you can go and see
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: him at whatever, and he'll sign your stuff. Now, he's
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit too expensive, but you know, just have
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: artists sign things, or have creators sign things, stuff of
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: that nature. Because I doubt they'll be coming to my
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: local convention anytime soon.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: But you'd have to actually go to a convention to
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: have that happen with me, because it happens at a
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: lot of conventions.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: I know, I gotta get out more, right, Yeah, I.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: A, I have a bunch of signed things.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Twenty six is in my year, That's what I've heard,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: is what I've been told. I'm hoping twenty twenty six
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: is my year. I don't know what I'm going to yet,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: but I'm I might be going to Philly for Necho.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: That's not the right convention, but okay, no it's not.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: But you know, I'm I'm gen cons is always so
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: damn expensive, and I need I haven't ever gone to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: a PAXU and I really should, and I don't even
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: know what alter it will be in next year, Like
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: as far as conventions.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: Go, I can honestly say I do not either.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: I don't like gen Con. Well, I don't mind gen Con, right,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: but it's just fuck is gen Con expensive? Just everything
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: for the hotels, right, yeah, it's that's that's your biggest
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: thing is the hotels are just dumb pricey. The ticket
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: price is it's like one seven five I think for
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: all four days, which really, honestly is not that bad
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: for a four day event. Food gets a little crazy,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: but you can, you know, you can always hit I
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: think there's an in and out or Jack in Box
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: or whatever something you're you know, there's stuff nearby where
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: you can get food cheaper, right, you don't have to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: eat downtown but taking shake, yeah, something like that. I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: mean shake, You'll find something somewhere. But man, just the
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: hotels just are stupid.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: If you if you don't want to go somewhere where
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: everything is too expensive, do not go to packs East.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: Gen Con and Unplugged are much more affordable than East. Really, yeah,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, the convention food at East was like it,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: there's just crazy expensive. I could not believe it. I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: think Blue and I ate on the convention floor like
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: one day and then we were like, Okay, we should
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: never do that again.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: You really liked that grilled cheese though, oh the grill.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: The grilled cheese was good and it was cheaper than
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: the first thing I got, which was way overpriced, but
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: that was technically of the floor.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know because gen Con doesn't have floor food, right,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: you can't like there's not you got to go to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: like the food trucks outside. Yeah, they're they're not cheap either.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Getting back to the question, I like your guys'
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: ideas basically, just more stuff to chase. I think for
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: altered for people to want to get other than uniques,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: find a way to market the game more to more
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: than just competitive players and uniques. I guess is the
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: thing that I want to see more.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like super quiet, what you're doing over.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: There, ex Singing tournament?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, what what what would you add?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not Curtty sure yet, I'll have this other we
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: talked about just more.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: Not plussies per se, but some collectibles like figuring as
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: Like you said, work really really nice for collectivity for sure,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: and mementos.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Sleeves are cool, mets are cool. Yeah, I always nice.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The unfortunate side of like what you were talking
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: about will keep with art and artists is the only
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: item that was under sold and did not sell out
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: was the art prints at Worlds And I think it
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: was maybe mainly a travel like concern, but they yeah,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: they had serialized prints and they did not really sell.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I necessarily want to like
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: a serialized print, but like signatures, right.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah you buy it more artists is there?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, they're there. I would say something like more
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: because like normally when that that's because remember when you
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: get self siled, like that's an experience, right like you
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: you meet them, you get to talk to them, talk
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: to them, even if it's for a few minutes, you know,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: or whatever. It could have just been. It could have
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: been a size is always a travel concern, especially when
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: you're flying overseas, so it could have definitely been that.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, like it's just one of those
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: things where it's like I don't know, I wish I
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: had more stuff like that is just stuff I want
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: more of that is currently difficult in my current situation,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: but it is what it is, all right, we made it.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: I like sleeves. Like sleeves are cool, right, especially if
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: they're done well. Not game Genics sleeves. For the love
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: of fuck. Don't use game Genic sleeves.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: And they're my favorite sleeves, are they really? Yeah? They're
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: the ones that they had been making for Altered up
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: until they weren't, are by far the best sleeves that you.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Can't say I use the ones for Alter.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: But the Altered game sleeves are actually good. Okay, because
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: every single other Sea has ever made is so bad, I.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: Should bring you up.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: Sleeves so you know, you guys keep talking about key
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Forge and things being bad, you should just know that
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: if you're Forge, it's gonna be bad.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: Because it's I had a great time this year at Ford.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: It's a main line like game Genic product, so it's
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: Altered isn't the only one that has the sleeves like that? Like,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: you can get the same exact sleeve in any way
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: you want.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Basically, I'm sure they have made their formula better since
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: they did it, because I mean, game Jenic was released
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: and that was like, they're their first toe dipping into
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: anything like this was for KeyForge because that was the
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: new hotness at the time. But god, they were bad.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: They were just they were hard. They shuffled for shit.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: They're probably way better now. I've always been a dragon
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: sleeve person myself. That's just my personal feel. I like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: dragon sleeves also.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: French company, What texture do you get though?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna cringe everyone out for this one.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Are you ready?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: It has to be.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: I don't use dual mets. I will not touch them.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: I use the original gloss lot.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: I I have some magic sleeves that are the glossy
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: or whatever, and they like stick together.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: And those are ultrap those are the ultrapro ones. Those
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: are garbage. Yeah, those away. I will only use the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: gloss uh dragon shields. And I will only use three colors,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: four colors. Three colors, three colors. Well, technically for if
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: you include clear.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: What colors do you not like? Cookie?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: I will only use black, red, or blue Heyl's colors
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: because when I was young, those are the only colors
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: that were available in the day.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: You like you like those colors? Do you like those
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: colors more?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Those were just the only colors that were available, And
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: when I came back to card games, that was just
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: the ones I buy.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I typically other people So like in late in current
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: years and people were using other colors, did that get
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: you upset?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: I don't care what sleeves your cards are in.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: You just keep just keep them out of your house,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: is what you're saying.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: You can be wrong, That's fine by me. I think that.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Jet black sleeves should actually be banned in altered.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Jet black gloss it's all I'll use.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Just because they blend in to each other too much.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: Tell them apart in the mana zone. I get your point,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: but I use black sleeves a lot for.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: Me, especially if you're going to be on stream your band.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Banned, I'm not good enough to be on stream.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: Well, and altered it just is we pick a table
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: and you go there.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: It's completely roll.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: Up until you know top top cut and.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Also not good enough to make top cut, sorry, kiddos.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: It also easier to have a static table unless someone
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: play hard.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know anyways, is that too?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: So?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Also, I'm I'm I'm kind of a fan of the
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: using the orbs.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, oh yeah, that's my that's the I want
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: to change my thing of what they need to do.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: They need to allow us to foil mannic convergence.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Wol, that'd be cool.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty surely he has wanted to do that for
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: a while too.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing we can't foil tokens me a lift.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I foiled every single token. In fact, that's the majority
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: of my PUDs or foiling tokens. But I cannot get
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: a manic convergence. And it's dumb either way. So that's
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm changing.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I want.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd bell. I'm down for that. But yeah, I'm
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of a fan. After I saw it, I
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: kind of liked it and I could get on board
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: with that using the manic convergence for them in the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: Mana zone and kind of keeping keeping everything after the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: else aft of the side. So at first it bothered me, No,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I'm and I'm like, you know what, that's it's actually clean.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: I still don't really like it, and I would never
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: do it myself, but I get it and I understand
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: that some people like it.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: It's it's super clean, and it does allow you to
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: keep good track of what's what's gone and what's still there.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: I hear that if I tried it, I would get
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: confused in like swapping out the actual card with the
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Mannek convergence card and then have the wrong amount of
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: manna and then it'd be a whole mess.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: Can someone like cut everything that Dexter just said, minus
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: the card stuff and just post it out of context?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: Doc?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: What did I say? Now?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: That's where it's like, I've seen other people do it,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'll like it, but I
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: think I would like it, and.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: Welcome that'll be you haven't You haven't hung out with
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Dexter a lot, have you? We kind of just all
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: go aha and then move on. So that's what I
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: feel like.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: This is getting close to two hours. We just keep
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: going to.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: Those to two hours. But we're all done. I'm all done.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I need to go. How damn girl? What the hell
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: burning me?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Getting attacked right before.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: She's like, is this done? And it fucking burned me
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: with the damn thing.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: So she's gonna end up with her own Netflix documentary.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: More than listen, I'm gonna say it right here, right now.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: You all ready for this? If ever, Wookie goes missing,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: it was it was her, It was my My wife
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: has murdered me, and I'm probably being dissolved in a
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: cooler of some weird concoction that goes down to the bone.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: Can you just say the word lie out loud?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: Is it is? It?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: Lie?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, now she knows she heard the words sound.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Well, she already I'll guarantee you she already knows. She
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: only watches all those damn murder mystery, all that true
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: crime bullshit, right, and the fucking Dexter and everything where
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: there's fucking psycho killers wandering around, And then she wonders,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: why I do the shit? I yeah, that's all she watches.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: That's all she watches is true crime and Dexter and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: people murdering each other. And then she goes, why am I? Siad?
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  Speaker 4: You should ask her what her favorite faces of death
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  Speaker 4: tape is?
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  Speaker 3: Amanda, what's your favorite faces of death?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? My god?
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  Speaker 4: All right, anyways, if you're not being murdered this week,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: events are altered. ACES will be on Mondays going forward
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  Speaker 4: at twelve thirty that is Central time ACE every Tuesday
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  Speaker 4: at six thirty pm Central change.
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  Speaker 3: That time we can't get that to like eight thirty.
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  Speaker 4: No never ever ever, Nope, you can join the turn
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  Speaker 4: based one that will do over Christmas though, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 4: give it a shot, all right, dot com, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: can do it. Turn based is the way, the truth,
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  Speaker 4: the light. All right, keep going, Let's get the freak
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  Speaker 4: out of here.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: That's all right, everybody, big, thank you for coming on. Blue.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: You wanna you wanna plug your all your your pertinence
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: before we get out of here?
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: Sure, Blue TV YouTube subscribe hashtag ad or die. And
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the only thing that I'd like to leave everyone with
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: is a penis.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Well on that note, we'll see you all next week,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: but we won't.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: See you next week.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: We won't.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: The break. You're the boss, Yeah for two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: No next week, No next week. We're still okay we
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: are yeah, still next week. Yep, we're still doing next
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: week and then the twenty sixth were off, and the
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: second we're off, and then we come back on the night. Yeah,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: I thought next week was Christmas. Christmas was kind of
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: far away. So we'll have to find some other sucker,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: i mean person to come on and do an interview with.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Seriously, all right, are we doing. I gotta get dinner,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: go get We're in.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 8: I guess bye everybody, Bye, se.
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  Speaker 2: Sweet shant, every good.
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