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Fast Laps with the Boys - F1 2024 - Australia Preview · Banter with the Boys

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  You're listening to Benzer with the boys.
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  From high octane to adrenaline.
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  It's time for Benzer with the boys.
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  Yo yo yo, welcome back to Benzer with the boys fast laps.
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  I'm Smelty, I'm back from almost the dead.
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  Uh, was very sick but Tyler hosted for us last episode did an amazing job.
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  He's back here again.
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  Tyler, what's going on?
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  How we doing brother man?
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  I'm excited to be back.
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  Word up, word up.
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  And right next to him we got Cole.
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  Cole, how's your week been?
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  I mean I know it's, what is it?
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  Is it Tuesday?
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  Yeah it's Tuesday.
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  How's your week been?
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  Yeah it's been going good so far, you know.
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  Still got a lot of it left.
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  Right.
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  But you know it's been a good hiatus so happy to be back.
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  Word, word.
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  Uh, Joe, our co-host right here, what's poppin'?
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  Excited to be here, favorite part of the week.
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  Wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
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  With that, let's just hop right in to our Jetta race.
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  Um, obviously before the race had even started, what was it Friday night?
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  Carlos Sines was having pain and ended up needing the ol' uh, emergency appendicitis
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  surgery.
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  Um, has anybody here had that surgery?
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  Have you really?
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  Yeah I had the appendicitis uh, horrible.
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  The whole night I thought I had to poop.
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  Oh dang.
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  Instead of actually laying on the ground I'm just trying to tough it out.
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  Thought I had a bad cramp or something, something that wouldn't come out, you know?
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  And then all of a sudden I went to my buddy the next morning.
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  I was in college and I was like, you need to bring me to the ER.
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  And I went in and they were like, no you need to go to like an actual ER.
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  Like you need to go to the ER because it's about to burst.
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  Oh he took you to like some urgent care or something.
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  Yeah.
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  He's like, you need to go because it's about to burst.
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  They put me on some meds and I was vibing.
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  You were vibing the next thing you know?
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  You woke up and you had stitches on your freaking gut.
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  Yeah they're pretty good with the stitches now.
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  It's pretty small.
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  Some cute nurses though.
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  I was in college living my dream.
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  How do you know?
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  You were vibing.
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  Oh yeah.
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  All right well with that obviously uh, we had an F2 driver, Oliver Bierman take over
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  for Carlos Sines.
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  I mean what's your first reactions on how, how he did?
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  Anybody?
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  Mad impressive.
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  You know he got one practice session in and then straight into Quali.
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  He was like, it was like 0.03 away from even getting the end of that Q3 spot over Lewis.
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  He looked impressive from start to finish this whole weekend.
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  Yeah and obviously super impressive.
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  Also with Bierman, they talked about how you know people who when they come up
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  when not getting a lot of practice, they kind of you know they can do okay in the qualifying,
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  but the race is where they suck.
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  And it looks like that's where he excelled throughout the race.
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  He just got cleaner and cleaner.
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  The end of the race staying away from Lewis and them.
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  He just super impressive.
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  Yeah completely agree.
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  Um coming up to F1 for anyone super difficult and I agree his race looked really really good.
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  He was Haas's reserve driver I think.
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  He did some testing for them last year.
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  Coming into F1 especially for a team like Ferrari who is their youngest driver to date so far.
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  Yeah he killed it.
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  But no I mean to say that he had a stellar day is probably an understatement.
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  I mean I didn't expect that from him at all.
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  Let alone you had Danny Rick back there struggling.
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  But like the fact I mean at least he was able to get in a somewhat decent car.
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  So do you think that factored into it as well?
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  Like what if what if he would have been in I don't know um not Alpine what am I saying?
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  Yeah Alpine.
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  What if he would have been in one of the Alpine cars?
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  Does he perform just as well?
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  I mean but there's also not as much pressure right?
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  So he performed also with pressure in a fast car.
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  And just to go back to like kind of how the race went I thought it was pretty awesome.
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  I think F1 did a great job of kind of showcasing the father and the emotion he was going through.
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  I thought that was really cool to like watch that especially later on in the race when he almost
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  on that very last turn before the straightaway he had little wheel squirrel.
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  He you know popped back a little bit.
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  It was it was super cool seeing that but yeah I think it's even more impressive to step up
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  in a big car that needs points that's in second.
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  You have to make sure that you know if he doesn't get points there that just lets other teams get
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  a lot closer and he ended up beating out some of the teams that were right there.
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  Beating out some of their racers like Hamilton and them.
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  So I think it's even more impressive that he stepped into you know a high performing car
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  and performed how he did.
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  Yeah I mean to say like if he was in a different car would he have performed as good?
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  No Ferrari's the second best car on the on the circuit right now.
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  So I mean he went into like one of the best situations he could.
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  And I mean not necessarily like he definitely has something to lose because if he goes and
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  he finishes 15 or below like he probably doesn't get looked at as a seat next year.
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  But now what position is Ferrari in?
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  You're already committed to Leclerc.
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  You're committed to Hamilton.
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  This cat came in and more than impressed raced a heck of a lot better than Hamilton.
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  Now Hamilton and Mercedes pit stops is why Hamilton finished where he did.
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  You know if they would have double stacked with that first step
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  he likely would have finished higher than he did.
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  But I mean it puts puts Ferrari in kind of a precarious spot here.
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  I mean he's probably going to get that Haas seat next year as he should but that's interesting.
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  It'll be extremely smart for Haas to do that but like is because he did so well is Ferrari
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  in a similar situation to what Mercedes was literally just in with Hamilton.
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  They didn't want to lose old what's his name the guy that's coming up for Mercedes next the young cat.
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  Antonelli.
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  Yeah so it came out that they were worried about losing him if they continue if they like
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  signed Lewis for a little bit longer of a deal.
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  So aka why may be a reason why he departed or will be departing but
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  do you think Ferrari is kind of in that boat now with with how well he did in his first F1 race?
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  I mean it could be but it's also in the same regard is like this cat's stupid young
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  and you don't go to Haas to have a whole career at Haas right.
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  So if you go to Haas he's still going to be a part of that Ferrari Junior program or that
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  Ferrari program so you know let's call it what it is Lewis don't count more than five years left.
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  I mean he has the capability but I don't think from a mindset he wants to do that and so you
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  know he's essentially just kind of keeping that seat warm for for Ali here until we can see what
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  he can do in that Haas seat.
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  Yeah and I mean if you're Ferrari you're not upset right.
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  I mean you have Hamilton and Leclerc coming next year you're not upset.
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  He's going to go somewhere else and good for him it's just going to help his chances.
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  We obviously haven't seen a lot of these big racing teams like Red Bull and them fill in
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  that other seat yet or what's going to happen with these other seats there's so many availability
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  this year and I think based on some of the contracts that they sign it just might show
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  where he ends up in two years if he signs a two-year with Haas or Williams or whatever.
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  Yeah for sure I think we absolutely see him get his his stepping stone as early as next season.
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  Absolutely something that the the boys here with the banner crew keep an eye on.
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  Let's just talk about that start again though.
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  So you kind of got that that jump start from from Lando which was not a penalty and as Tyler
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  actually alluded right before the podcast they did take a long time to figure that out.
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  I kind of forgot about that thoughts on the fact that he didn't get a penalty.
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  I mean it was clear as day I think we all think he should have probably gotten a penalty.
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  As a McLaren fan yeah I'm happy he didn't but he definitely should have gotten a penalty.
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  I think the only light at the end of the tunnel that I can see from the situation is that they
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  they followed the system the system told them what to do and so they did it and we can only
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  hope that that's what they follow for every other single driver.
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  I think he deserves a penalty there I mean they just gave Magnuson 20 seconds
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  for what he did I mean Haas don't need any more downfall like that they're already back there
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  20 seconds you might as well give him 100 minutes you know if they're fighting for 10th it's not
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  going to change 20 seconds versus whatever. I think he deserves at least a five second penalty
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  for that we saw it a lot last year too they were giving out those penalties and off the track
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  penalties especially in the first race last year like they were nothing they were just handing them
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  out to everybody I feel like it should have been a five second at least. I don't know how it wasn't
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  they I just it's mine by even the commentators throughout the race were just like I don't know I
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  don't understand why this is taking so long and how this isn't a penalty like I mean if you look
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  at it he didn't gain an advantage by doing it because he like he jumped and then kind of slowed
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  down and as he was kind of slowing other drivers were starting so you know he almost kind of like
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  did more harm than good by inching forward but for sure it's the letter of the law like it's rules
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  are rules if we're going to have them enforce them or tweak the rules where you have some leeway there.
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  And then just allegedly the sensor's not picking it up I mean that's that's pretty wild I mean
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  that's I'd assume in every aspect of F1 they're using top of the line technology. Well you don't
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  even need the technology for that it was clear as day. Well I know that's for sure it's like 100%
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  so how do we do it? They probably need the technology for proof for numbers on a paper
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  to say that he jump started but we all saw it. Yeah yeah very clearly very clearly a jump start
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  I completely agree deserved a penalty I think it comes down to the FIA covering their butts right.
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  We all saw it happen I don't think anyone would have been surprised if he got a penalty but
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  if the rules state this very specific thing I mean we look back at Carlos Sines in Vegas last year
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  he got screwed over with that with that uh that drain cover obviously very different situation
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  but the rules state we're gonna state it's a penalty if the transponder or the the system
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  states it's a penalty then I guess they got to stick with that. Yeah well I mean Lando's your
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  boy so. You got to just bring some human element into it though too for a certain degree you know
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  like the sensor like. But it's the top racing series in the world. That's what I'm saying like
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  so it's you'd think it would be like all because all the eyes are on it like it's everything's
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  under a microscope so I don't know I mean I think what ultimately what I want to say it was is he
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  didn't gain an advantage so they didn't penalize him because like it's typically you would do that
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  to gain an advantage you know you go off track. Sure like if he would have kept going or something.
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  Yeah if he wouldn't have stopped himself I think it would have been penalized but. He did stop
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  himself pretty quick but yeah. He did and he'd really and he didn't have a great jump. No. You
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  know so it's like he didn't really like I said he didn't overall gain an advantage. So maybe that's
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  what saved him at the end of the day didn't quote unquote gain an advantage so they just didn't give
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  it to him. So I have a question just because I'm of the mindset that there was a sensor that didn't
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  pick it up didn't call it out. Do you guys think that they're just saying that to cover something
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  else up that maybe there was a human element that they were like no that isn't it. I mean I just
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  think that like they're saying you know cover their butts and all that. I think naked eye sees it
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  pretty obvious too. I think the sensor is just something because they're getting so much backlash
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  they had to throw something out there. I think it's probably where they went with the sensor. It's
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  just an easy out for the FIA. Yeah I think that's fair. You talk about human element you think back
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  to all the bad calls of 2021 last race of the season. You know got to bring it out there.
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  The human element obviously doesn't work all the time. No and I mean that leads us right into
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  something else that's not a human element. Gasly not even getting a chance to complete a lap.
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  I mean we just see Alpine once again failing. I just don't understand. I don't get it.
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  He's got to be so upset. Who wouldn't be? Gasly it just sucks because obviously we all I think
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  here love Gasly. He's kind of our guy last year. Mutual interest. Yeah yeah last year we talked
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  about him all the time how much we loved him and how much we wanted to get a good spot and
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  this just sucks. You know you hate to see it out of Gasly and I'm a Gasly fan over Ocon so you know
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  hopefully it's Ocon's issue next week. And how can you race well and like prove that you still have
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  it to get your next potentially final contract in F1 when you can't you can't even can't even start
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  the race. Yeah that Alpine. Because of a gearbox issue. That Alpine team just some absolute mess
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  right now. Just absolute dumpster fire. They can't even get the car under weight let alone worry
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  about like getting their mechanics right you know. That team is just absolute dumpster fire. Just
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  just straight rubbish. Straight rubbish. So moving right along obviously we did have somebody hit the
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  wall. Our boy Lance striking the wall. Thoughts on what he was trying to do right there on that turn.
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  At all. I mean everybody's shaking their head. I mean we're all in agreeance so.
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  We saw people overshoot that turn and take it too fast and go you know over the the strips there
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  outside of the racing track. But I mean I don't know like it's almost dumb to keep wasting time
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  on Lance Stroll. He's almost guaranteed to have a failure every race. He's there because of his pops.
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  Hopefully his pops sells that team so we can get a real race driver in there. Do you think I mean
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  no matter what if Lance Stroll's dad he's in there there's no way nobody else is in that seat.
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  Correct. Absolutely. That's been well documented. Even in the uh drive to survive his father at like
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  the big dinner they threw or whatever with all the guys there. They were talking about the fact
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  that like you know is my son Lance one of the you know best racing drivers who's saying that in the
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  drive to survive. It's just tough you know it's like at one point as a father you're like I got a
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  big money I got big investment here. You know how can I win some races? How can I get more people like
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  Alonzo up in the top 10? Yeah that's what's tough because like the whole reason Lawrence Stroll like
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  is doing what he's doing is so he can win a world championship with his son. That's his whole driving
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  force behind getting into racing is because of Lance. So I don't think that'll ever come. That
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  day will come if if Lance decides to not want to race anymore it's because Lance decides he doesn't
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  want to race anymore. He's such a prima donna. And like in order for them to ever win a championship
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  if they were in the Red Bull car and they're as far in front as Red Bull is he's not checka. He's not
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  doing one-twos. He's not there. So I mean they need a car that's light years ahead. They need to go back
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  to the old Mercedes and get that car out to just gas up the Red Bull because they just don't have
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  it. There's no car that can blow them out of the water anymore and Lance is never going to be that
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  guy that's number two that's going to get you the points to secure a title unless you have like first
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  tap and that's just going to get you enough by himself. I 100% agree with you there. I mean at
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  least Lance gave me my third favorite radio comm of the race. They were like I can't remember who was
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  talking to him but they said Lance can you get the car back and Lance said Kev I'm gonna need you here
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  homie. Lance says no I hit the wall. I just god that was awesome. But again that was my third so
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  just real quick because I got to share it. Beerman was my second. Somebody there was like you are
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  doing a mega job. I thought that was hilarious. You're doing a mega job. I don't know it's not
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  something we say here over in the states. Oh dude you gotta listen to more George Russell. Dude I love
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  well my number one was actually Albon and all he said was the word naughty. Like all of a sudden
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  he like I don't know what it was for or whatever and I didn't look into it but all he said was
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  naughty. I want to say it was one of Magnuson's penalties because he was like he was getting real
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  they were rubbing elbows and then Albon gets on he just goes. He just is naughty. Dude it was hilarious god.
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  Anyway back on track. Speaking of. Lewis and George actually say mega a lot. Do they? Yeah it's a very British thing like
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  Amanda will say it. And that's why. It's very British. I haven't heard it. Okay sounds good. Now I know I learned
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  something today there's my one thing every day. Speaking of Magnuson what about all them penalties
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  holy crap. I know we already talked on it but I mean you can argue that if he didn't race as well as he did
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  after the majority of those penalties that Hulkenberg probably doesn't get a point. Yeah it's just
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  pass doesn't need that right. I mean they don't need anything bringing them down they just need help.
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  And it just seemed foolish to give 20 seconds. It's just insane. It's an outrageous amount. And they even
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  like they were saying that they didn't tell him because honestly he was kind of the buffer for Hulkenberg.
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  So it makes sense why they didn't tell him that he was getting the penalties. At the end of the race I'd be heated.
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  Yeah you find out you finish you finish 11th right behind your teammate you're like no I didn't get points
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  but at least it wasn't bad. Boom jumps to 15 or whatever it was like ah man it would throw you off.
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  Yeah. But I mean I guess I guess I'd want to know. Even if I was running. I'm pretty sure he knew.
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  Because they said them there was radio comms between them that said like good job Kev.
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  Like you're doing a good job holding the like the pack back for Hulkenberg. So it was already like
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  given to him like hey you're not going to win this team race let's make sure Hulkenberg gets that 10th spot.
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  I think it was eventually I'm saying like the first few laps they knew for a while even after
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  the 10 second but they gave it a couple laps before they told him because they didn't want him to
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  change his driving style and how he was driving. That was kind of what the comms were from the
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  announcers and stuff on it. But yeah eventually I'm sure they told him. Yeah I'm just a quick look up.
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  Yeah 10 second time penalty he found out about that and then lap 22 he was hit with the second
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  legal overtake penalty. But at that point I mean he was playing defense he was playing for the team.
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  There was he knew I'm not getting points this race this is for Haas and man did he come up to bat.
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  He was crazy crazy performance. He did a mega job. He did a mega job. Yeah even Niko
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  afterwards like on the on the comms was just like like thanks Kev for you know or thank Kev for
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  being whatever he did. It was something on the lines of like thanking Kev. Niko Hulkenberg
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  thanking Kevin Magnussen for playing a team game. I mean I think Niko doesn't get points if Magnussen
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  doesn't pull off that performance. Yeah that was crazy. Huge for Haas though especially this year
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  with all the top dogs kind of taking those top eight points you know top nine points. For Haas
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  to get any points any points this year is huge so it's a huge to get one early on. No doubt no doubt
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  um just moving right along real quick like super speed round. What's what's up with Daniel Rick?
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  Like I mean it's just it hasn't looked good straight up and I know that you can't even say
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  the car's not that good. The car's not there because Yuki's not doing great either. He's not but I'd say
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  he's doing better than Danny Rick and like I was low key looking for Danny Rick to blow him out of
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  the water to make it hard for Red Bull to decide what to do with that second seat but right now
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  you have no reason to move on from Sergio so. Well yeah I mean at this point two races in neither of
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  those Alphator sorry the V carbs are getting that Red Bull seat. No. Two races in a lot of season left.
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  Well no doubt and I know we're like speculating like you said two races in out of what 24 they got.
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  I think it's 24 this year. Um plenty of season but it just uh it just doesn't it's not old school
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  Danny Rick at all not even close. I think it's too soon too soon to call you know throw in the
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  flag. You're still learning the car but. Yeah I just think it's too soon for Danny Rick. I think
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  he's gonna be okay later on in the season especially if they're gonna be helping out each other with
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  Red Bull or whatever they do there you know if they can get some something going in that car
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  I think they're gonna be okay. I think Danny Rick will he'll show out he'll show out. Um I'm hoping
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  I love Danny Rick so much so I'm really hoping that he he finds his stride and he gets back up
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  into those those point places. A kind of new information for me I don't know if you guys heard
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  about this but apparently he had a 41 second pit stop during that race and that kind of brought
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  him all the way to the back of the grid. It wasn't said anywhere but. Who was? Who did? Danny Rick.
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  Gosh I do feel like I remember that. Um. I feel like they couldn't get the wheel on or something
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  it was super weird. He spun out in the uh the second to last lap so now he just finished out
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  the race there. So maybe it was a little bit of strategy as well that you know caused him to have
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  some bad woes during the race but in general he also qualified behind Yuki. He wasn't making a
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  ton of paces. Obviously the pit stop was probably just the icing on the cake for a bad day. Um
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  yeah hopefully I mean home race coming up um Australians don't tend to do amazing at that
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  race but hopefully he can break that trend. But let's be honest with that too. I mean obviously
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  everybody wants to see Danny Rick back in the Red Bull. It's not gonna happen right neither of the
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  neither neither of the V-Car cards or cars or drivers jeez are gonna be in the actual Red Bull
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  right? No it'll be Fernando. It really. No. Whoa whoa whoa whoa. We'll table this because that'll
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  be a conversation probably throughout the season as we see how Danny Rick and or Yuki do um because
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  I could see Alonzo in the seat as well. That'd be wild with him and Max dude. But let's just let's
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  table it. If you got right notes do that because that'll be a great conversation. But we do have
• 21:33
  to move on. Our our podium was for Stappen, Checo, LeClaire, between Tyler, me obviously being Smelty,
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  Cole we all took for Stappen and Checo. We were all wrong on our third drivers. Joe cleaned house
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  got the podium 100% correct so at the moment Joe is leading in our our points system.
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  Um again Tyler's Tyler Cole Smelty all at three points Joe at five out here killing it.
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  Back into some F1 news real quick. We only got a couple things. Um Carlos Sainz could be back for
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  the Australian Grand Prix this weekend but it's still kind of uncertain as again we established
• 22:26
  earlier it was a Tuesday so um we still don't know but on Thursday of this same week this is
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  according to essentiallysports.com so take that with a grain of salt. Um but on Thursday he is
• 22:40
  a son allegedly due for the FIA's mandatory medical evaluations which include a crucial driver
• 22:46
  extraction exercise. This test is quite demanding as it requires the driver to unbuckle the safety
• 22:51
  harness, remove the steering wheel within seven seconds, exit the car and then return the wheel
• 22:56
  to its position with another five seconds. Do you think you could do that Cole after a week of having
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  your appendix taken out? I know you're a top tier world class athlete. I don't even know how those
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  things go back in you know. I'd be stuck there for 20 seconds just trying to figure out how the thing
• 23:12
  pulls off and goes back in but I was saying or I was thinking do you think they're not in so much
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  of a rush at Ferrari because of how good Beerman did last week? 100% 100% why would you rush him?
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  You already have the seat filled. I think you're doing Beerman uh you know a good service but you
• 23:30
  could also do Carlos the good service if he's ready to go to bring him back early too. That's
• 23:34
  that's the kicker to me. It's like does Ferrari have anything to lose for putting Beerman out there?
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  No. Carlos sure does. He has everything to lose. He don't got a seat next year.
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  So what I mean if you're Carlos do you just I mean you know you gotta be fully 100% healed to like
• 23:55
  go you know be good to go. I think though a lot of these F1 drivers are just ready to go like I mean
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  I trashed Stroll but him racing with the wrists and stuff last year was impressive. It was ridiculous.
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  I'll give him that too. And I think Carlos has the same mentality a lot of these racing drivers do.
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  I think he wants to get back in the car. It's tough because you said Ferrari doesn't have a lot
• 24:15
  to lose and I agree to an extent but they do have a lot to gain from putting Carlos in there right
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  because with Carlos behind the wheel you do have you know three four five better position placements.
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  You have an opportunity to potentially hit podium. Yeah. You know he could still beat out Leclerc or
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  if Leclerc has a failure or whatever and has to retire well you still have Carlos and you feel good
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  about that. So you feel good about Beerman getting you points but you don't feel good about Beerman
• 24:40
  getting you Carlos signs points. Not yet but again he's super young but yeah I mean you make a very
• 24:46
  valid point on that. Really the only other bit of news I guess that kind of came out today was
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  uh Ralph Schumacher who's like the younger brother of Michael also the only pair of brothers to ever
• 25:00
  win an F1 race actually. Allegedly he's saying that Horner should just straight up you know call it a
• 25:08
  day and and resign. Obviously Max Verstappen's dad feels the same way as we know and you guys touched on.
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  So is there more to this like truly why have we not heard from you know the alleged victim of the
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  situation? I don't know I thought it was pretty huge of him coming out here. Right, right Tyler's
• 25:29
  over here giving us the Johnny Menzel money sign but. There's one reason you haven't heard from her.
• 25:35
  There's an out of court settlement and she can't talk. But there's also I mean didn't Horner just
• 25:42
  come out recently and basically say that uh yeah I'm kind of done with that that's behind us and
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  all that he just came out and said that after the race didn't he? He actually keeps using the words I won't
• 25:51
  go into detail in a lot of his interviews. If you look back which is just like I mean that's probably
• 25:57
  the you know politically correct way to say it right but like he's obviously doesn't want to talk
• 26:02
  about the situation which again leads to maybe the money situation but and I don't and I don't want
• 26:09
  to keep talking about this literally every episode but it's still a thing in in mainstream
• 26:15
  quote-unquote mainstream f1 media right it's still it's still being talked about there's just got to
• 26:19
  be something more does f1 get nervous or fia whatever it may be fom whatever do they get nervous
• 26:26
  like that this still continues to be a thing and at some point they under the table push Horner out
• 26:31
  the door. He definitely doesn't have that Drake thing going on if you know he doesn't want to
• 26:34
  get it shown out there. Oh man. It's probably what happened you know. Oh man. I love talking about that.
• 26:42
  Boy Cole was really waiting for that one. I'll tell you what I think there's probably stuff that
• 26:48
  we don't know happening at Red Bull right but I also think the media can be pretty
• 26:53
  pretty pretty conniving right. 100%. They're just gonna they're gonna push out whatever they think
• 26:59
  is gonna grab people. I get so many f1 news on my phone and 80% of it is just crap.
• 27:08
  It's annoying right so I can only I can maybe go to skyport skysports and f1.tv f1.com whatever
• 27:16
  but that that's pretty much it. I just think they don't have anything to really talk about right now.
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  Last race they had Oli which was good so they could talk about Oli for a little bit but it's
• 27:24
  slow news week let's bring Christian back into the limelight quotation marks. See if anyone's
• 27:30
  still interested. Even back to the Horner statement and the way that Red Bull has handled it they're
• 27:35
  kind of asking for it from the media though. Like they're not helping their case in any way. They're
• 27:39
  kind of asking for all this stuff and publicity from the media. All publicity is is bad publicity
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  still good oh my god I can't say that word publicity is bad publicity still good publicity.
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  You had it we got you we know what you're saying. In this case I would say no because it's not only
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  bad for Red Bull but it's bad for all the f1. It'll pull more eyes there but not the eyes you want.
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  Yeah yeah it doesn't put the the sport of f1 which is rapidly growing with you know drive to survive
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  the last number of years in a good light right now. Right so I think you know as much as we don't
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  want to talk about it every episode I think there's going to be continuing continually man
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  neither one of us can talk be things that come out every week. I mean there's going to be some so
• 28:27
  you know we'll just keep an eye on it but with that we'll just head right into our Australian preview.
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  And heading right into our our Australia preview. Joe's actually going to give us some
• 28:38
  information on last year's Australian Grand Prix. Just a couple key points to look out for what's
• 28:44
  going on. Yeah got a little bit to go through for last year. Real quick before we jump into the
• 28:49
  highlights some quick fun facts about Australia. The current track we're on Melbourne introduced in
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  1996 however we saw the first Australian Jeep in the year 2000. The first Australian Jeep in the
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  year 2000. We saw the first Australian Jeep happening in Adelaide in 85. Most wins Hamilton,
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  most poles Schumacher and another really fun fact Australian drivers never finished on the podium
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  at a home race since the track first joined the world championship. We got Mark Webber closest at
• 29:19
  fourth. We saw Danny Rick actually get fourth but then he was later disqualified due to fuel regs.
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  He got you're right twice yep no no he got second. He got second. I'm sorry I meant second my bad.
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  We saw him get on the podium second place later disqualified for breaching the fuel consumption
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  rigs. I'm so glad they got rid of the fuel like regulations. So now it's just like you don't have
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  to like pit for fuel like there is no essentially fuel right so just yeah I think so I think at this
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  point I don't think they were still putting in fuel it's just when he finished the race he was
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  lower than he was supposed to be. Oh gotcha gotcha. They do that so to make sure that when you're
• 30:00
  finishing the race if you use all your fuel you don't just stop on the track in the middle of the
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  race. Yep all right we'll get into some highlights. We saw Perez starting in the pit lane after a
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  qualifying accident and an exchange of some engine parts under Park Fermet when he wasn't supposed to
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  do that. First lap Max getting overtaken by Russell on the first turn of lap one and Leclerc getting
• 30:22
  beached on lap one for retirement bringing out the first that's right first safety car of this race.
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  On lap seven we see Albion hitting the wall for the second safety car and the eventual red flag.
• 30:34
  We actually saw Mercedes one two for six of those laps until that second safety car come out where
• 30:39
  they make a tire change for George. I mean shortly before the red flag meaning everyone gets that
• 30:45
  free tire change and George is left out on bad strategy. We see a restart on lap 10 Hamilton
• 30:52
  leading Max and then a car engine failure on lap 18 for George starting the virtual safety car.
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  All right and then things get a little bit crazy after about 30 or so laps lap 54 we see Magnuson
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  with the late race wall hit taking out a tire bringing out that third safety car on lap 54
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  and then the second red flag on lap 56. And wasn't it right after like that uh that red flag where
• 31:18
  like everybody started stopping on the track and like almost rear-ending each other all over the
• 31:23
  place I think I can't remember who it was went flying through the sand it's just like oh my god
• 31:28
  dude I think it was almost really bad. If you bring anybody like who hasn't watched F1 they want to
• 31:33
  see Rex they want to see crazy races this is that race it's kind of like being a new F1 that me and
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  Tyler always talk about I think you too Schmelzi we always talked about last season was a real
• 31:42
  first season we watched full through and it was it was pretty exciting to see this race because
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  you're like what is going on right now you know something we weren't we weren't used to as newer
• 31:52
  fans. Absolutely yeah the race restart lap 57-58 um yeah definitely 57 out of 58 uh Verstappen,
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  Hamilton, and then Alonso yeah mess out to that starting line everyone kind of keeping back trying
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  to gain for some reason a little bit of a little bit of time to each other and yeah bunching up
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  on that one corner I'm gonna do like just a quick play by play of that race restart because it it's
• 32:18
  crazy and I think it's needed I think it's just the best way to kind of convey what happened here
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  uh race restarts lap 57 out of 58 turn one we see signs bumping into Alonso getting them off the
• 32:30
  track into the turn we see Perez becoming a lawnmower after narrowly missing Ghastly we see Sargent of
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  course tagging De Vries and both getting beached and then we see both of the Alpines run into each
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  other into the wall on turn two right before Stroll locks up into the gravel trap and turn three or
• 32:47
  four bringing out the third and final red flag what a crazy this is all happening by the way within
• 32:54
  the first sector of the race they haven't even gotten over that first sector line yeah what a
• 33:00
  crazy restart that's insane I mean my first thought of course as new I mean we've all been kind of
• 33:05
  into f1 for the last number of years whatever it may be but um being newer watching every single
• 33:12
  race when I can uh yeah that was pretty wild the first thing I could think about was like wow that
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  was a lot of money right there that just that just went up in a bunch of little carbon fiber pieces
• 33:23
  all over the track well even like after the race who was the old president of Alpine oh hi Joatmar
• 33:29
  Joatmar came out and goes oh yeah it wasn't either the driver's error like come on dude nah
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  nah that was so bad the Alpines in each other were so bad come on you think about like realistically
• 33:42
  if you think about that race versus like how this race was kind of the setting stone for a lot of
• 33:46
  teams for the rest of the year especially those lower teams as far as getting big points a team
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  like out or uh sorry a team like Alpine if they can just stay together and get through there
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  talking about a lot of points a lot of well-needed points so it is it sucks but it's interesting
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  because this race a lot of those lower teams got a lot of big points yeah well when you have eight
• 34:08
  dnfs you know it opens up for so much you have two places that aren't getting points so if you're
• 34:15
  one of those 12 drivers remaining you have a pretty good chance especially starting from a restart
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  right so they had a restart so it was a race start to start with the 12 drivers so it's it's
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  anybody's game at that point as long as you can make it through turn one literally i remember
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  being all like gassed up right before that restart because of the fact of russell obviously you just
• 34:33
  touched on this but russell taking verstappen on that first lap i was like oh this might not be the
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  race verstappen wins yeah i was really really looking forward to see what lewis could do off
• 34:42
  that restart because like you're like i mean even from the the start as a whole lewis got a huge
• 34:47
  jump out from that start too so it was like mercedes had the pace in this race last year absolutely
• 34:55
  yeah crazy restart obviously another red flag coming out right after that due to all the
• 35:01
  carnage on the track i also remember watching it live and just kind of waiting for it to kind
• 35:05
  of finish up obviously not hoping it would finish up soon but just knowing that we got about
• 35:10
  20 seconds of racing and then another 20 minutes of a red flag waiting for everything to get
• 35:16
  cleaned up and then back out there i like the word carnage we don't get to use that enough in f1 we
• 35:20
  don't we use it we would use it every week if we had a nascar pod but f1 it's like it's wild we get
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  to use yeah carnage probably for the carnage probably for the best we don't get to see carnage
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  every single week but yeah it is fun when it happens i think um all right uh after the the
• 35:36
  final restart of the race uh because all of this happened before the first sector line we saw the
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  race restarted back to the race restarted back to where it was after the second red flag on lap 58
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  out of 58 cars took the formation lap into the checkered flag signs dropping from fourth to
• 35:52
  12th because of that penalty he got from hitting uh alonzo uh getting that five second penalty
• 36:00
  dropping just within a matter of seconds after crossing that checkered flag max hamilton alonzo
• 36:06
  finishing that race in the podium i mean max hamilton alonzo i just say that would look a
• 36:12
  little bit different this year a little bit different obviously i mean probably the number
• 36:18
  one storyline obviously max we haven't talked about max at all this episode we might as well
• 36:23
  we have some listens uh in the netherlands do we not kev kev says 118 so we got to give them their
• 36:31
  we got to give them their flowers um max is probably winning again this week moving on um
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  but the australians i think would be a number one story here uh obviously danny rick just really
• 36:46
  isn't involved in this conversation either one of them will get points well and that's what i want
• 36:52
  to talk about is there like we keep seeing improvement from him is he going to beat out
• 36:57
  lando at some point with within the within the team um yeah to be to be that number one i would
• 37:05
  say lando's still their number one right now right yeah but he just beat him i mean beat him last
• 37:09
  race and he's looking very good this year so far as it goes he just is showing that he took his
• 37:14
  offseason very seriously yeah and even the second half of last year i mean he was giving lando a run
• 37:19
  for his money 75 80 percent of the time he wasn't beating him but they he was right there with him
• 37:24
  and yeah i mean piazzari's looked really good do we see williams hit some points this week
• 37:33
  i don't is their time to to get a point or two yeah i don't see why not i think well i think we
• 37:39
  see alban at least fighting for points absolutely sergeant i'm unfortunately not too hopeful for
• 37:46
  but alban has something he really needs to prove they both have something to need to prove but alban
• 37:49
  is the one who's been you know he's been the one showing up for sure um i don't want to talk about
• 37:58
  every single team but i mean we don't usually talk about some of the bottom teams i mean we saw haas
• 38:03
  get a point last week if k-meg doesn't have all those penalties and runs even a slightly better
• 38:09
  race he could get a point or two do we see another point for haas this week i could see haas up there
• 38:17
  um lp and i don't williams i just don't think that williams car is where it needs to be sure i think
• 38:22
  the only chance that williams like williams alpine or even stake have a chance at points as if we
• 38:28
  have another three or four dns for sure is that a possibility absolutely are we gonna see carnage
• 38:35
  this year i definitely me and tyler were just kind of off mic you're talking about it but
• 38:40
  it's a fun race because all the crazy turns and stuff and and uh i want to thank whole shot
• 38:46
  but um the grid starting off the race right um it's that first time it's kind of a whole shot right
• 38:54
  yeah right that's not what a whole shot is boys you want what do you mean a whole shot
• 38:59
  whoever has the lead going in like coming out of the first corner that's what we're talking about
• 39:03
  that's kind of what you're racing for at the australian grand prix i'm thinking whole shot
• 39:06
  because when i was like 13 i used to race four wheelers then you call it a whole shot when you
• 39:11
  start out the race i couldn't think of the grid you know starting like that but um it still applies
• 39:16
  in a way in an outside way we we're trying to say grid we wrote no not when you're trying to say
• 39:22
  grid yeah 100 but i there's a big thing where um that first turn is crazy and there could be really
• 39:29
  anything that happens this week there it's interesting to see obviously the bottom teams
• 39:33
  i think haas right now has some pretty good straight line speed too so that's definitely
• 39:38
  somebody we can see taking that you know nine tenth it's tough now because you've got four
• 39:42
  teams basically taking up to top eight and then wherever alonzo finishes within there nine spots
• 39:48
  are pretty taken unless one of those guys have a dnf or a failure or something like that top nine
• 39:53
  spots is taken so you know who's gonna get that tenth i could see a house i could see magnussen
• 39:57
  what's crazy to think about those like nine positions too if you look at the performance
• 40:02
  of how everybody has looked this year you make a strong argument louis hamilton is number nine on
• 40:07
  that list i mean this season 100 percent two races 100 so what what is that though is that is that
• 40:14
  the mixture of the car being more geared towards george or is that i don't know is that louis
• 40:19
  struggling a little i don't think there's like the whole like a car being more geared towards the
• 40:23
  other i don't i can't get behind that because why wouldn't they just do it to each car then like
• 40:27
  you know what i mean they make fine adjustments to each car the only thing that can tailor or
• 40:31
  like a driver's like like liking to their rights is you can adjust certain things on the car but
• 40:35
  the cars are identical going into it you can you can do certain adjustments braking adjustments
• 40:39
  like you can affect drag to a certain degree but it's it's like i just think that i don't know
• 40:46
  it's tough because george is outperforming him like tenfold right now i mean the only only team
• 40:51
  that really pops up where they kind of gear a car towards somebody's red bull with for staffing
• 40:54
  right but albon squashed that well he talked about how it's basically like when you race with that
• 40:59
  car it's like racing on 10 sensitivity well no albon had an interview it was a little bit of
• 41:05
  it was a couple months ago now he came out and he said like yeah everybody that says that like
• 41:08
  that's simply not the case because he was in that like that was everybody when he went in that red
• 41:12
  bull car was all his cars tailored for your staffing he's like the car is just so advanced
• 41:18
  and it takes such a high high high level of skill to drive the car that for staffing has mastered
• 41:23
  the ability to drive that car the car isn't sorry go for it sorry yeah i wouldn't say the car is
• 41:28
  necessarily tailored for him as much as like the car is the car and for staffing has taken the most
• 41:32
  like he has like mastered that car because even between like when mercedes runs sorry smelty
• 41:38
  no it's good with hamilton and bata's right like that car was the car bata's was up there bata was
• 41:44
  the bata's was i'd say performing better than what jackal was for red bull obviously but it was you
• 41:49
  know it was like the car is the car it's just how good is the driver that can drive that car and and
• 41:54
  for sapin for sapin proved that to me last season at this race between turns eight and nine it's so
• 42:03
  faster there and he decides to pass louis on the outside of the turn that that's insane that takes
• 42:10
  some kahunas you know what i mean like max has the skill dude seriously but i mean obviously it's a
• 42:16
  mix of the car too but you can't deny that the dude's talented but as far as like louis i think
• 42:22
  we see this pretty consistently over the last few seasons as well where he doesn't start off the
• 42:25
  season hot but as things build up he gets better and better and by the end of the season you're
• 42:29
  like oh that's louis hamilton right last year we saw this he started off the season not so hot
• 42:34
  i think honestly i think the last couple seasons especially with this mercedes he's not comfortable
• 42:39
  in the mercedes they needed to make some shifts for him to be more comfortable he's just not
• 42:44
  comfortable in the car right now i think that's why he has this but he'll get comfortable and it's
• 42:48
  louis he'll be fine um last year it took him till the end of the season for him to really
• 42:53
  kind of pop off and get some of those big placement points but you know i i think you know ninth right
• 42:58
  now for sure but we'll see him being up top five top four again joe we didn't hear from you at all
• 43:04
  for this this year's australian race what are you looking at this weekend then we'll get into some
• 43:09
  our podium predictions yeah i mean turn one is gonna define the rest of the race i think
• 43:14
  uh if you're at the back of the pack you're probably okay mid and mid in front you got to
• 43:19
  look out for people behind you we've seen it plenty of times well claire didn't beat himself
• 43:23
  he got hit by stroll uh so you know that's gonna really define the rest of the race in terms of
• 43:30
  drivers man i would love to see an asi up at least get some points i think oscar's gonna do it in
• 43:35
  fact i might go one better i think oscar might beat out lando in some fashion this weekend i think
• 43:40
  i think just the pressure knowing that he's he's got a stellar rookie season down he feels good in
• 43:45
  the car and now it's his home race i'm really rooting for him to get a good placement i don't
• 43:49
  think it's podium worthy per se but way up there uh and then on the mercedes front just a little bit
• 43:57
  george just looks i don't know if it's he's more comfortable in that car or he's better in that car
• 44:02
  but something's happening with louis right now i do get that last year it took him like throughout
• 44:07
  the season he got better and better but he was fighting for first i mean i mean russell and
• 44:13
  hamilton were fighting for first in this race last year i don't see them anywhere close to that
• 44:18
  at all so something happened between the car between then and now hamilton said he car i
• 44:24
  don't know hamilton says it's a whole new car they completely scrapped the concept last year they
• 44:27
  built a entirely new car this year and todo came out i think it was last week and said the car
• 44:31
  ain't working yeah in fact i think one of the news headlines that i try to avoid but i saw uh they're
• 44:38
  managing expectations for this this weekend they think there's fundamentally something wrong with
• 44:42
  the car going into it yeah i think mercedes unfortunately is not going to be where we want
• 44:47
  them to be at the end of the race they're so far behind in the high speed corners right now it's
• 44:52
  not even funny you look at louis even trying to fight last week i forgot who it was it might have
• 44:56
  actually been lando yeah of lando and it was like during the like the like the top line speed like
• 45:02
  the long stretches and jetta louis was catching him that was he was getting in dsr drs zone he
• 45:07
  was getting to a point force like point to getting 2.4 of him and then those first six turns on jetta
• 45:12
  last week those high speed corners lando was flying away like that mercedes is so slow in
• 45:17
  the high speed corners right now it's not even funny it like uh especially with louis i always
• 45:22
  see a video pops up where he's in like 18th and the engineer goes it's hammer time it sucks that
• 45:29
  right now all we deal with with louis is louis saying i can't catch them these cars way too
• 45:35
  fast so fast quick it's a lightning what is he what does he always say it's a uh it's a rocket ship
• 45:42
  i want to i want to get back to where louis and the engineer are going hammer time that's fun
• 45:46
  that's exciting this just sucks it sucks to see louis in this car it sucks to see everything about
• 45:50
  it tough well and we're gonna get that change soon enough to be honest did you have one more
• 45:56
  thought one thing just to add from a news perspective as well that i forgot about is it uh it came out
• 46:00
  and um bono is not coming with louis to go to ferrari um he has a clause in his contract that
• 46:07
  keeps him in in mercedes um so science his current engineer will be hamilton's engineer in ferrari
• 46:13
  next year no pressure interesting yeah that's interesting i did not know that um why don't you
• 46:20
  just lead us off right off your podium from this week in the australian grand prix mine's gonna be
• 46:26
  i mean i got the podium from last week i got rostapp and leclerc and czecho okay okay i think
• 46:32
  it's gonna take something monumental for a ferrari red bull not to finish one two or take the podium
• 46:38
  cool i'm gonna agree it's gonna be rostapp and czecho and leclerc obviously i picked science last
• 46:43
  week it sucks that he was you know uh with the appendicitis but yeah it's gonna be ferrari up
• 46:50
  there and and leclerc is looking good right now he seems comfortable with the car good to go there
• 46:54
  for sure for sure joe well who we got i love to break a pattern but i don't think i'm gonna be
• 46:59
  doing that this time around uh there's just facts in front of me this was a hard decision i was
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  going between obviously max and czecho definitely in that podium i was going between russell and
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  leclerc uh charles won 2022 uh he was tagged by stroll uh last year i think he could have
• 47:15
  gotten a really good place if that didn't happen um murk last year was also very very strong they
• 47:20
  just had bad luck in car issues but at the end of the day the car is not the same as it was last
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  year it's definitely worse than it was last year and leading up to the grand prix they're saying
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  like i said before they're saying there's something wrong with the car they still need to fix it it's
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  not where it needs to be so for that max czecho and leclerc dang okay well we have three matching
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  ones so i'm just gonna go ahead and change it up i do think czecho will get to um that's fine or
• 47:48
  on the podium is what we're doing right um i wanted to be fun and say like oscar or something but i
• 47:55
  don't believe that he can be beat out both ferraris and honestly george which is actually who i'm
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  gonna go with i think there's just gonna be a random surprise i think george will figure it out
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  lewis will struggle with with their car issues but um i don't want to be the exact same so we
• 48:11
  took a risk and it will pay off for me i like that prediction um but with with that that i mean that
• 48:19
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