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FILM REAL | Where To Sit In The Theater? · The Recess Bell

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  Speaker 1: This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I am ready?
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  Speaker 1: All right, So this is the film reel right here
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  Speaker 1: on the Recess Belt Network. My name is Justin. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me once again is my buddy Jonathan. And we are
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  Speaker 1: talking movies because it's film real, and we're gonna specifically
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  Speaker 1: be talking about a couple of movies that we saw
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  Speaker 1: in theaters, one that we actually saw together. Then we'll
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  Speaker 1: be going over the nineteen eighty seven classic film RoboCop.
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  Speaker 1: And then for the main event, a little tournament in
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  Speaker 1: honor of March Madness. Even though we're recording this in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of April. We're gonna do a little Adam
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  Speaker 1: Sandler bracket. We got the top eight, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Sandler movies, and we're gonna do a little debating
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  Speaker 1: and see which one is the ultimate Adam Sandler film. Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: how's it going, buddy?
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  Speaker 2: It's going How are you, budd.
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  Speaker 1: It's going great. You're feeling good?
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  Speaker 2: No, I am hungover today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was with you last night. We do our
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  Speaker 1: bowling league for nights. We record this Saturday mornings, which
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  Speaker 1: is always interesting to see what shape Jonathan's gonna turn
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  Speaker 1: up in and uh, yeah, you took a little side
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  Speaker 1: trip before you got here. Would you got an electrolyte beverage?
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  Speaker 1: I've never even seen that. Looks like some sort of
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  Speaker 1: like auto cleaning equipment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's basically a windshow wipe or fluid.
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  Speaker 1: So what uh? What else did you get to help you?
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  Speaker 1: What's your usual hangover cure?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Sleep? But now this electrolyte beverage supposed to replenish
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of like a gatorade. Yeah, a little
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  Speaker 2: buttered roll soak up, you know, some of the alcohol
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  Speaker 2: that's left over.
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  Speaker 1: You don't do the bacon, egg and cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's yeah, if I have time, but
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  Speaker 2: I was running late today, so uh, just a quick
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  Speaker 2: buttered roll and uh some electrolytes?
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  Speaker 1: Do you often get hangovers because you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really drink too much, but I'll be out of commission
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  Speaker 1: for like a good half of the next day, but
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  Speaker 1: not really feeling like a headache sort of thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: more of just I'm tired and I you know, don't
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  Speaker 1: want to move for the rest of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me. I get terrible hangovers and always have,
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  Speaker 2: even you know, when I was in college and everybody's
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  Speaker 2: part like I was still always just miserable the next day,
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  Speaker 2: which is like, but yet I keep drinking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand how people could do two
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  Speaker 1: nights in a row, three nights in a row, especially
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  Speaker 1: at our age. You know, when I was younger, in
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  Speaker 1: my twenties, I could do maybe a Friday night Saturday
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  Speaker 1: night drinking night. But I could not even think about
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  Speaker 1: doing two nights in the same week, or let alone
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  Speaker 1: two nights in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rough. I'm normally not a two in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Jackie has no problem. Yeah, she could just show wake
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  Speaker 2: up and have a glass of wine. And I'm laying
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  Speaker 2: on the couch like I want to die.
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  Speaker 1: First Jackie shout out of the podcast. It's Jonathan's girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of Jackie, me, Jonathan and HERR went to
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  Speaker 1: a movie, which was awkward at first because usually we're
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  Speaker 1: hanging outside at the bowling alley or we're doing this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But to see people, it's like seeing your teacher at
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  Speaker 1: a supermarket and you don't know really how to react
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  Speaker 1: because you're usually surrounded by bowling balls and the people
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  Speaker 1: in our bowling league. So it was interesting dynamic to
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  Speaker 1: meet these two outside of a pizza place, and then
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  Speaker 1: we went to go watch the movie Drop, which I
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  Speaker 1: know you were very much looking forward to. Jonathan. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the pizza experience first though, because not a fan,
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  Speaker 1: not a fan of what we had. I got a standard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of slices crust, unbelievably rock hard,
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  Speaker 1: which is unacceptable in today's day and age.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they should.
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  Speaker 1: They shouldn't have pizza out there all day and then
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  Speaker 1: when they cook it it becomes inedible. So wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: fan of that. And then you guys ordered some sort
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  Speaker 1: of appetizer I guess it was.
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  Speaker 2: She got a tomato and mozzarella salad, which is literally
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  Speaker 2: just sliced tomato and sliced cheese, and it took what
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  Speaker 2: like fifteen minutes to come out.
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  Speaker 1: It was insane, the out of time that it took
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  Speaker 1: to get this food. And little did we know, because
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  Speaker 1: we went to go watch the movie Drop on like
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  Speaker 1: a special screening night, early access, early access, and apparently
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  Speaker 1: they don't have trailers during these early access things, and
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  Speaker 1: we missed out on fifteen minutes of the movie yep,
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  Speaker 1: which you know, we sort of put everything together. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't this you know, inception sort of plot where we
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  Speaker 1: missed out on much of it because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it was shown in the trailer. But there were certain
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  Speaker 1: scenes where there were characters shown in I look at
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  Speaker 1: you in the middle of the theater, Michael, We're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to know who this guy was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when the guy pulled his mask off, we were like,
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  Speaker 2: uh that we supposed to know who he is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like this big Scooby Doo reveal. And
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  Speaker 1: we never met this character before. I haven't gone back
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  Speaker 1: and actually watched the first fifteen minutes, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I go to the movies all the time and I
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  Speaker 1: might as well just walk in and see what exactly happened.
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  Speaker 1: I've yet to do that, so I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: that character is. But yeah, we show up late. We have,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a miserable time, at least I do with
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  Speaker 1: my pizza cross. But the theater experience is always good
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  Speaker 1: except for one one particular thing, and this is where
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with the program. The seating arrangement. Now, when
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  Speaker 1: I go to the movies, I like to sit dead center,
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  Speaker 1: right in the middle, and I think it's perfect. You
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  Speaker 1: get the balance of everything you got. The sound mixes
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  Speaker 1: is perfection. Where you're sitting is perfection as far as
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  Speaker 1: your site goes. When we ordered the tickets, Jonathan told
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  Speaker 1: me to get the seats all the way in the back,
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  Speaker 1: which was shocking and apparently this is something that you
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  Speaker 1: and Jackie normally do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we sit. And I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking the theater's not that big. I mean, some of
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  Speaker 2: the auditoriums are very big, but the one that we
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  Speaker 2: saw it in not very big so to me. And
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  Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this since we had this discussion.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I like to sit in the back
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  Speaker 2: because then that way I don't have anybody behind me.
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  Speaker 2: So we've talked about people talking right during the movie
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I feel like by sitting
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  Speaker 2: in the back row, at least I eliminate the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of somebody behind me talking, and because it's going to
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  Speaker 2: carry forward, at least if the people in front of
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  Speaker 2: me are talking, I probably won't hear it as much
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  Speaker 2: as if I had somebody sitting directly behind me, So
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  Speaker 2: I think that might be why. Plus I definitely don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be too close, like I remember back in
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  Speaker 2: the day before they had the nice reclining chairs where
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  Speaker 2: you know, you'd go see a movie that everybody wanted
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  Speaker 2: to see and you get stuck in like one of
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  Speaker 2: the first three rows, and you leave and you got
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  Speaker 2: to go to the chiropractor because your next broken.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we can agree. The front row is
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  Speaker 1: far worse than the back row. I think the front
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  Speaker 1: row I would have actually committed you to a mental institution.
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  Speaker 1: But the back row, I guess I see your point
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  Speaker 1: as far as not having people behind you. I hate
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  Speaker 1: when people are just behind me in general, Like if
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a chair and my mother's like hovering behind me, like,
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  Speaker 1: can you like get away for me? I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, skeeved out by it. Uh not that
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  Speaker 1: I have anything to hide, it just I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this sort of clusterphobia. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: like a wall directly behind me. That's also a little clusterphobic.
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  Speaker 1: You're right near the projector. I think ideally for me,
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  Speaker 1: it is that middle section. I think next time we
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  Speaker 1: go to the theater, we need to try that's fine
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  Speaker 1: my area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it a try. So, Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: also too, I think by sitting in the back because
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  Speaker 2: I'm very observant. I'm aware of my surroundings, So I
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  Speaker 2: think that also helps that I can kind of see
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  Speaker 2: everything that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: What are you an FBI agent?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, listen, do you like tracking to see where the
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  Speaker 3: exits are? There's been plenty of you know, incidents at
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  Speaker 3: movie theaters. Yeah, I'm always aware. I'm always aware of
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  Speaker 3: put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: I was expecting, like, I don't know, some sort of
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  Speaker 1: makeout session theory. That's why you want the back row,
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  Speaker 1: like usually that's where like teenagers go to to do
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  Speaker 1: the sexual acts. So I was like, what is going
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  Speaker 1: to go on here at this at the screen?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we brought you there to y.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the corner as a cock. Just watch it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we went to go see the movie Drop, which
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  Speaker 1: you were so excited for, and me and Jackie were,
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  Speaker 1: you know, very perplexed as to why you really want
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  Speaker 1: to see this movie because we thought it looked really GOOFY.
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  Speaker 1: I ended up liking the movie more than both of
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  Speaker 1: you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Listen, I definitely wanted to see it,
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  Speaker 2: but I think because you and Jackie both ended up
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  Speaker 2: being like, Oh, this movie's gonna be so bad. I
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  Speaker 2: think I just purposely kept knowing more and more about it, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't wait. It's gonna be the
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  Speaker 2: best movie of the year. They played it, and I
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  Speaker 2: think I just played it up. But no, I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was good. I thought it was a good movie,
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  Speaker 2: solid movie. What I kind of what I expected, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I like the twist and the turns of the game
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  Speaker 2: being played.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's go over a basic plot line.
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  Speaker 1: And again, we did miss the first fifteen minutes, so
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  Speaker 1: there might be some things that we actually don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and we will get into some spoilers here, So if
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  Speaker 1: you're really interested in Drop, might want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fast forward a little bit on the podcast. But the
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  Speaker 1: basic plot is a woman goes on a first date
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  Speaker 1: with a gentleman and they have a specific seat at
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  Speaker 1: a restaurant, way way up high at at a restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tall building, and she's on this first day.
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  Speaker 1: Things are going a little good, and then she gets
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  Speaker 1: a random drop text message or an air drop Drop.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like a different sort of application. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a made up app where you can receive text messages
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  Speaker 1: because usually air drops from what I've gathered, because I've
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  Speaker 1: never really done air drops before. You could really just
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  Speaker 1: send pictures, yeah, I think so. So this is like
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  Speaker 1: some made up sort of app where you could get
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  Speaker 1: text messages as air drops, and for people that don't
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  Speaker 1: know what an air drop is, it's essentially like an
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  Speaker 1: anonymous message, like you could send it to strangers, right,
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  Speaker 1: Is that usually what happens?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's anybody that's on the same
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  Speaker 2: Wi Fi network as you and if they have it available,
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  Speaker 2: because you can set it so that it's only like
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  Speaker 2: your friends or your contacts or anybody. So you could
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  Speaker 2: just be like on the train or something, and if
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  Speaker 2: you have it open to everybody, you can just get
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  Speaker 2: a random dick pick drop, right, Yeah, which is in
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  Speaker 2: the movie as well. But yeah, so it'll be a
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  Speaker 2: number you don't know, so that's why it's anonymous. But
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  Speaker 2: like you said, this one had like screen names, like
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  Speaker 2: the screen name of the person was let's play, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like the Evil Smiley Horned Moji.
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  Speaker 1: So it was sort of like a mixture of a
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  Speaker 1: couple of movies. Like I definitely felt some saw elements
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  Speaker 1: where she had to play this game she had to
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  Speaker 1: do certain things to the person on this date that
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  Speaker 1: she was with because he has some dealings with a
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  Speaker 1: political figure and he has dirt on them. And basically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for the first well we missed the first
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, but the first you know, hour and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: minutes that we're there, we don't know who is talking
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  Speaker 1: and who is sending these messages, and it's sort of
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  Speaker 1: a mystery, and it is a bit nerve wracking because
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  Speaker 1: you're in her shoes and you're trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what would you do in this situation, and what would
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  Speaker 1: the guy do in the situation. I would have left
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  Speaker 1: this woman immediately because she's acting like a crackhead. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she's so nervous and just just really you know, skitzy,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem in her right mind. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why he stayed for that long.
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  Speaker 2: Well, also you have to put into context that it
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  Speaker 2: was like her first date since her husband died. That
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  Speaker 2: comes into play about how he died and maybe she
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  Speaker 2: killed him, and you don't know why for the first
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  Speaker 2: at least probably forty five minutes or an hour that
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  Speaker 2: we watched, why they want him dead? With the that
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  Speaker 2: he's got the dirt on the politician.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy that she's on the day with. We're
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  Speaker 1: not sure exactly what his if he's even in on it,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't know if he's the one somehow sending
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  Speaker 1: the messages, if he's setting her up. So basically just
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  Speaker 1: also to like, why would she play along with this?
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  Speaker 1: Because she sent she got sent a message basically saying
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  Speaker 1: we're at your house with another person that's going to
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  Speaker 1: kill your kids.
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  Speaker 2: Check your home security camera. And then her kid's there
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  Speaker 2: with her sister, and then she swipes to like the
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  Speaker 2: living room and as a dude with a mask hold
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  Speaker 2: and a gun.
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  Speaker 1: So she has to play along. So it's sort of this,
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  Speaker 1: either do something to this guy that you're on the
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  Speaker 1: date with, or we're going to kill your kid. And
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  Speaker 1: it's something that a morality issue, and she's trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure it out, and anytime she gets some sort of
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  Speaker 1: momentum going, she gets screwed over. And I felt it
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  Speaker 1: to be a very interesting story and captivating, and I
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  Speaker 1: wish a few things would have changed a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I would have definitely preferred an R rating with this movie.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you went a little heavier with some
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  Speaker 1: of the comedy aspects of it, because there were some
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  Speaker 1: comedic elements to it, but I think they could have
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  Speaker 1: pushed it a little bit further. And I also think
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  Speaker 1: the violence could have been a little more violent. But
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  Speaker 1: I think for a PG thirteen action suspense sort of movie,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it delivered. I thought it was a nice, fun,
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  Speaker 1: sort of like if you're trying to do a date
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  Speaker 1: night sort of thing. I think this is perfect. I
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  Speaker 1: think women and men would like this movie because it's
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  Speaker 1: nothing too vulgar, too violent, but it also delivers with
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  Speaker 1: the action. I thought it was a good movie that
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  Speaker 1: delivered with a satisfying ending to the for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: because again we didn't know who one of the people
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  Speaker 1: were at the end of the movie. But I definitely
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: So you're you're recommending that people go on a date
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  Speaker 2: to see a movie about a date where the person's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to kill their date. Yeah, I guess, okay, yeah, no, Listen,
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  Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. It's an hour and thirty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes for us, well.
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  Speaker 1: A nice hour and twenty minute movie.
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  Speaker 2: So we went to the movies on Wednesday, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting there on time. Yeah, and then we sat
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  Speaker 2: there for twenty five minutes of previews.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh recently past Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm like, I'm going from now on. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going on time, and if you want, you can call
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes after me. But I hate it because, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, we don't think we missed anything crazy like
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  Speaker 2: that we couldn't understand the movie, but there was. But
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  Speaker 2: it's annoying. Yeah, yeah, because you're like, wait, did was
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  Speaker 2: this guy in there? Did they show anything about the
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  Speaker 2: husband in the beginning? You know? So, and it's funny
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  Speaker 2: because on Wednesday, Yeah, he was like, oh, drops playing
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  Speaker 2: over there, Why don't you go in there and watch
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  Speaker 2: the first twenty minutes, But it was twenty minutes after
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  Speaker 2: our movie started, so I would have been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: back and forth. But I'm definitely gonna watch the first
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes whenever I can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, let's not even give away exactly
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  Speaker 1: what happens, because it's a it's a nice, little satisfying
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  Speaker 1: ending and it's definitely a recommendation from me and both Jonathan.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other movie that you just mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: you did see on Wednesday, I saw a solo and
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  Speaker 1: the movie was called Warfare, and this is a true
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  Speaker 1: story about a military incident that took place in I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt this movie to be extremely intense, very depressing,
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  Speaker 1: not your typical rah rah sort of war movie. You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna leave this movie wanting, in my opinion, to
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  Speaker 1: join the military at all. No, you're definitely not going
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  Speaker 1: to have like a It has a feel good sort
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  Speaker 1: of ending, I guess you could say, but it is
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  Speaker 1: just really showing the disastrous issues that military men and
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  Speaker 1: women go through and the I would imagine the PTSD,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the aftermath of this sort of event must
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  Speaker 1: be devastating for military people. I couldn't imagine being in
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  Speaker 1: the military and wanting to go watch this movie. Why
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  Speaker 1: would anyone want to relive this? The basic plot is basically,
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  Speaker 1: a group of maybe seals get sort of put in
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  Speaker 1: a rough position in Iraq and they're they're just sort
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  Speaker 1: of stuck in a house surrounded by terrorists and they
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  Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get out of this
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: situation and it ends horribly for a few of them.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's one of those movies that I
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: don't think i'd ever want to rewatch, but I definitely
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: would recommend it. I feel like this is something that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: could be shown in schools years from now because in
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: our school we watched Schindler's List. Believe it or not. Yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So I think it's one of those movies that is
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: a real I think if you talk to military people,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: it's probably the most realistic version of what actually what
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: happened in that war. And we don't really see too
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: many movies about that war. There's a lot of Vietnam movies,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of World War two movies. We've been
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit of World War One recently, but
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it's very rare to have, you know, an Iraq war
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: movie coming out. I guess because it's just so close
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in near and dear, and these people are still you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: they were just fighting there, you know, years ago. It's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: like something that's old and in the past. These these
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: guys are are young and they're they're still you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: living their lives. And the guy who actually co directed
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this movie and co wrote it, he actually served in
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the military, so.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That well it was him. So the main guy is him.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Oh really, Ray, the darker skinned guy. Yeah, yeah, so
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: he wrote the movie and it's completely based on all
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of their memories, Like there's no actric anything, and it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: strictly off of their memories. And there's zero music in
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I never noticed that.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just and it's like in real time, like
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: this is what happened to them, because I think that's yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's in real time, like an hour and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: a half, Like that's how long that whole thing took apparently,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And like you said, it was super intense because there's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: some parts of the movie where they're just sitting around
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in the house, but you're like you're still on edge. Well,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you're waiting.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Because you know, you saw the trailers. It's not just
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of guys fucking, you know, twiddling
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: their thumbs for an hour and a half. You know
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be an attack on them, so you're just
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: waiting for that moment to happen. You know, there'll just
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: be a five minute scene of a guy looking through
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: his sniper lens and you don't know what's gonna happen next.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, they're gonna think
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this movie is boring. I think if you talk to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a modern audience, they want boom boom boom, boom boom.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: They're waiting for that, you know, opening action sequence. It's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: not that sort of movie. It's a slow bill.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I think you like the opening scene.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, with the pornographic For all of a sudden it
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: came on and I'm like, no.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The substance sort of doing a workout, like the workout.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but all of a sudden that came on and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is how this movie's opening. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: was like, I did not expect that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an interesting way to start the movie,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: but I guess that's what they did prior to you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: this this event taking place. And then also it's it's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen a movie quite like this
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: before where there's showing the horrors of war. Now, I've
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: seen movies that do show that, you know, something like
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Born on the fourth of July with Tom Cruise shows
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the aftermath of that, but this is just that one moment.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: There's no setting up sequels or they don't really talk
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: about what's going to happen next to these people. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: guess there's a little post credit thing showing what happened
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to some of these guys. But I mean there's sequences
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: where a guy gets, you know, hit with shrapnel and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: he's in pain, and he's just screaming for fifteen minutes straight, literally,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: just fifteen minutes of a man screaming in pain and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he wants to get morphine and he's just he's non
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: stop screaming, And I would imagine a lot of people
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: would be turned off by that. I'm shocked that the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: audience score is as high as it was because the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: credits loved it, audience loved it. But I'm shocked that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people weren't turned off by this movie
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because it is so intense and not for everyone.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they they showed you what happened to people,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you know, when ied goes off or somebody gets shot,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and like it was, it was super intense. Yeah, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: then the ending. Not to ruin it for anybody, but
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you might want to fast forward if you're gonna go
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: see it and you haven't seen it yet. The guys
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that are attacking them just walk out in the middle
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of the street and they all looking at each other, yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: with the guns, like yeah, all right, I guess they're gone.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Like okay, let's go back inside now.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess it's just an everyday sort of thing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, like just normal because they're just they're not soldiers,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: these people.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: No, it's like a gorilla warfare sort of thing where
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: these these uh, you know, terrorists are just they they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: live their life like that, and I guess, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to them, it was just a normal everyday occurrence. But
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to these soldiers just uh, you know, shape their lives
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: for the for the rest of their lives. So, you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I I don't know if I would love to talk
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to somebody that's in the military what they think about
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: watching military movies. Is it therapeutic? Is it something that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: they would never be able.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: To I can't see it being therapeutic.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine ever wanting to do this if I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: serve the military.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And these guys are I mean, they're badass, yeah, I mean,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I mean there's two guys, those two guys up on
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the roof just like going out just and there's people
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: in this direction, then there's people in another direction, and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: there's people behind them, then there's people up on the roof,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: then there's people down on the ground, and they're just like, yeah, whatever,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: no big deal, Like they're just out there just shooting
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and ducking and shooting and ducking. I was like, these guys,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: are you gotta be crazy, You gotta you gotta have
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: some screw loos to to do that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, to volunteer to do that sort
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, all the power to them. But yeah, again,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know you mentioned these guys on the roofs getting hit.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You know, bullets going everywhere, and you're not seeing the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: other point of view. So it's not your typical movie
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: because it's only really there retelling of this story, so
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you're not seeing I don't remember seeing anybody really get
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: hit with bullets from the opposing forces. It's not like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it's not a typical action sequence that you're seeing. It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: mostly them avoiding getting hit by things, and you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: just the the grid and the termination to survive this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: disastrous moment of their lives. So again I give it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a recommendation. A completely different type of movie then Drop.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Definitely not a date movie unless you're like really fucking twisted.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But I still say definite recommendation, specifically in the theaters,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because the sound was so good with these bullets going off,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And I would love to know the process of making
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: this movie if they used like blanks or if they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: did it all CGI, because you know, there was all
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: those issues just a few years ago with Alec Baldwin
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: killing that killing that woman on the set and you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: saving Private Ryan. They used no real guns. There's all
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: rubber rubber guns and all the you know, explosions and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: bullets were all CGI. So I'm wondering, based off the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: fact that this guy was in the military, I'm assuming
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that there was proper training and they probably used blanks.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Oh no, there was. Did you see at the end,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: like the three guys were showing the actors like how
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to move, what to do, and then I think Jackie
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: told me that I think the main three guys actually
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: did boot camp. That would make it like three weeks.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the guy you could see the guy when
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the one scene I was talking about when they were
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: up on the roof, he was showing how he would
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: have shot and ducked down by the wall and then
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: got up again and turned or whatever. It's not just
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, go up there and make it look good.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So I mean I would think that they probably used
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: real guns, like you said, considering they're in or were
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in the armed forces. But I have no idea. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: don't I didn't look into that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I definitely, like I said, recommend it. Yeah, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: if this gentleman there was there though fighting, I think
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: this war would have ended in four minutes. And that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: man is RoboCop. And that's what we're going to get
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: into right now on the film reel. So a few
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: weeks ago when you were last on the podcast, we
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: were talking about action movies and I mentioned RoboCop is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: my favorite action movie of all time, and I pleaded
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: with you to watch it because I think it's been
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: years since you watched it. Yeah, so you watched it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Let's get your Thursday night.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Let's get your honest thoughts on RoboCop from nineteen eighty seven.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And I watched the director's cut, which I think maybe
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the one that you said was like the unedited or
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: unrated one.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few more violence scene. Some of the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: deaths go on for a little bit longer. So when
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know Alex Murphy who turns into RoboCop, he's getting
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: blown to smith areens. It stays on him getting shot
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: for a little bit longer when mister Kenny's in the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: boardroom getting shot by the two nine. That scene goes
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: on for you know, additional twenty seconds or longer because
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: initially it was going to get the X rating of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the NC seventeen, so they had to cut some of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that stuff out. Yeah, because it's extremely violent movie directed
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: by Paul Verhoven for a thirteen point seven million dollar budget,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: making fifty three million dollars, which is a good amount
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven. It's nothing crazy, but you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the movie spawned multiple sequels and did gangbusters on the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, VHS, and that's how a lot of these
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: movies became gigantic, something like Austin Powers, I know, the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: completely different genre wasn't a success in theaters. The first one,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it was a success, but nothing crazy. When that came
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: out on VHS, it blew up. So then the sequel
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: became a gigantic success, you know, the one with Mini Me.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: That was the one that made hundreds of millions in theaters.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But the initial one was a success, but it was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really VHS. And that that's one of the issues with
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: movies today. They have to make all their money in
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: theaters because there is no DVD blu ray market anymore. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and I believe Matt Damon actually talked about this recently,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: how that's part of the reason why Hollywood is failing,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because there's there's unable to make money back even if
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: even if they goes to streaming. It's not the same
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: as spending twenty five dollars on a DVD or going
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to Blockbusters spending six seven dollars to rent something. But
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: RoboCop made a ton of money through vhs, and uh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: it's It's absolutely in my top five favorite movies of
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all time. And like I mentioned, my favorite action movie.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So what did you think, Jonathan? I don't think you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: were as big of a fan as I was.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna put it in my top five.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: But again, I've seen it before, so to watch it
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: again now it was interesting. Though it's a typical eighties movie,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, with the way it's filmed, the what is it?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The ned to nine two o nine that reminded me
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: of death Match? Remember death Match on MTV, Oh, celebrity
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: celebrity death Match.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the way it walked was the stop motion animation.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it reminded me of like when they
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: had like a character and the way it walked the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: ED two nine. That was again it's in eighty seven.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna get what you're gonna get
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: now in transformers or something like that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But to me, I love that shit. I I'll eat
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that up. Over All, this expensive two hundred million dollar
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: CGI that you get today, I feel it's so charming
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to watch these practical effects, you know, knowing that a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: guy took this animatronic thing, or he moved it and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: took a picture, you know, stop motion animation. You take
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a picture, you move a thing a fraction of a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: fraction of a fraction of an inch, then you move
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it again. Picture, picture picture. The process of that, to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: me is so charming. And I love that shit, so
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I find it better than CGI. So besides the special effects,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: what else were some of the things that jumped out
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with you?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: The kills? Like you said, when he shot the guy
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: in the boardroom, he I mean got lit up. I
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: didn't expect that. I didn't remember that, and I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, wow, I was like a little excessive,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know. And then same thing when Murphy
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: gets shot how he blew his hand off first. Yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and they got a hand then they unloaded on him. Yeah,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I mean it was it was rough. Yeah, So you
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have good stuff here, Like the news broadcasts were funny
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and just weird. Like like you said, it's a what
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: is it called the Dystopian?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dystopians.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's Detroit. But it's like the worst of the worst. Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And and the movie is a satire.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: The movie is a comedy. They know what they're doing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They're trying to be funny with these scenes. The over
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the topness of the violence is a sick way of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: doing comedy. And the director, Paul Verhoven, his whole shtick
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: is this. You know, he's the guy directed Total Recall,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: he directed Starship Troopers. He likes this sort of you know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I guess he's a foreign director, and I guess some
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: stuff like this is normal for him. But I thoroughly
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: enjoy every aspect of this movie, from the casting to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the way it's shot, to the way the sound is working,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to the comedy, to the dynamic of all the characters
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: interacting with one another. I think it's picture perfect. I mean,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the basic plot is there's a guy, Alex Murphy he's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a cop, he gets blown away, he gets killed, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he gets brought back to life as RoboCop and he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: there to serve and protect the city of Detroit. But
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there's ulterior motives for some of the people working behind
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the scenes for this company that creates RoboCop. And there's
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the dynamic of the you know, the boardroom dynamic of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you know, who's going to create RoboCop, why they're creating Robocops.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: So you get so many different layers, so so many
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: different characters. There's you know, criminal activities going on throughout
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the city, and RoboCop has these motives of what he
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: can and can't do, and you know, as the movie
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: goes on, you sort of figure out, you know, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a bit of a mystery what he can and what
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he can't do, why he can't do certain things, And
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you know, you're there along the ride and you're rooting
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: for this character of Alex Murphy. He's a good dude,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and you get, you know, a good fifteen twenty minutes
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of just Alex Murphy, and then you get the creation
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of RoboCop, which to me is my favorite character design.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I love his uniform, I love the sound of him
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just walking, which we talked about a few weeks ago.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I love his gun. I think it's one of the best,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: one of the best guns in movie history, right up
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: there with that chain gun from Predator. So it's everything
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that's great. I want to start with the comedic elements.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I mean that one scene with mister Kenny getting destroyed
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in the boardroom, because they introduce basically, the basic thing is,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: there's two people in this in this company that create RoboCop,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that are gunning for the head position. There's Dick Jones,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: who's the old school sort of guy, and there's Bob Morton,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: who's the young, up and coming business guy. And Bob
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Morton wants to create RoboCop. Dick Jones is death set
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: on creating this robot ED two nine. So it's sort
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of a like a blending of two generations. And Dick
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Jones introduces ED two o nine to this boardroom and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: it's just this amazing scene of one of the people
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that works in the office giving this test to point
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a gun at at two nine and add two nine.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: The robot says, you know, you have twenty seconds to comply.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You have to put the gun down. He puts the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: gun down at two nine says you have fifteen seconds
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to comply, and everyone's panicking ten seconds to comply, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it's this countdown of him about to fucking blow him
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: away because at two nine is essentially a robot with
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: two giant machine guns for arms, and you know, zero
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: seconds come up and he just gets destroyed. I mean,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he gets shot for a solid forty seconds on this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: table and he's getting blown away and there's clearly no
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: sign of life in the sky. He gets shot with
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: explosive machine guns from five feet away for forty seconds,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in every single part of his body. And then the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: next line delivered by the old man is somebody want
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to call a goddamn paramedic, which is so fucking funny
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because there's no way this guy's alive. So it's comedy
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like that that I just find so funny and charming
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and just so you to the Poul Verrhoven style of directing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And then he calls it a he goes out it
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: was a glitch, Yeah, a glitch, and then the main
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: guy's like a glitch, like the guy just got shot
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: sixty eight times.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it just shows also how big businesses don't care
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: about people. They'll sacrifice people. They you know, if somebody
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: has to die, so be it, as long as it
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: makes a better product. And it's really pushing the envelope
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: with certain things that are becoming relevant in today's day
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and age. I mean the news broadcast. Now, I might
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: be confusing the sequels with the original one because I've
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: watched two and one so much, but they'll go from
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: one news broadcast of like a bunch of people dying
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: from a horrific event, and then cut to a different
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: news story of, you know, something peaceful happening. So just
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the dynamic of how the news works today and how
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: if you turn on Channel four at eleven o'clock you're
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: gonna get miserable story, miserable story, miserable story. Then at
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the end, like a dog was saved by you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a fireman. So I think it was cutting edge with
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: sort of predicting the future of how the news cycle
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: is going to be moving forward. So you have that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: great comedic elements. Then just the villains, because you have
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: kurtwood Smith playing Clarence and he's you know, a higher
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: gun essentially for Dick Jones, and just the dynamic of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: him and his crew. I find so funny. I find
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I find that dynamic to just be so endearing, Like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I want to be a part of this awful crew
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that does terrible things. I know that sounds not good,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: but it just seems like they're having a blest on
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the screen and off the screen. Like you could feel
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like they were having good chemistry off the screen, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that really translates on the screen.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you believe that they were actually.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Buddies that Robin shit.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, shooting people and stealing and selling drugs and all that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, great cast, great cast.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And and you know the main guy, Peter Weller who
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: played Alex Murphy and RoboCop. The dedication that this guy
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: went through. I mean he's in this costume that weighs,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you know, fifty sixty pounds. He's in the middle of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Dallas in August when they film this movie, so he's
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: sweating his ass off. You know, it's one hundred degree
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: weather and this guy's in a sixty pound outfit. He
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: went to months and months of mime school. I mean,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: if you ever do rewatch the movie, watch how RoboCop walks.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: He'll literally turn his whole chest. Yeah, and then he'll
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: turn his head, and it's just it's subtle shit like that.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: It's the dedication of this guy who's a classically trained actor,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: who's like, if I'm gonna be a robot, if I'm
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: gonna play this dumb role called RoboCop, I'm gonna give
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: it one hundred and ten percent. I'm gonna take it seriously.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And that's really important. They didn't do it tongue in cheek.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody that's in that movie is giving one hundred and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: ten percent. They're acting as if they're in something serious,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and it is serious at times, but at the end
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's a mixing of different genres. It's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: science fiction, it's action, it's comedy. It's got great special
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: effects there. There's only one scene that has a bad
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: special effect in my opinion, and that's the fin scene
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: when Dick Jones gets shot and you know, out the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: window and he's falling dangling. That's a really bad special effect.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But I'll give it the past to me. I just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I just ignore it. I don't know why that looks
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that way. They actually talk about them. There's a great
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: documentary called Robo doc which came out a few years ago,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and it's an in depth. It's like three and a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: half hours long just for this one movie, and they're
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: doing the sequels as well, and they go over every
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: single scene. If you ever want to watch a nice
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: companion piece to RoboCop, it is Robo Doc. And I
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: want to say they touched upon that scene and they
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: mentioned that it wasn't good. But besides that, I don't.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I have no issues with this movie. It's just it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: such a fun time. It's one of those movies I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: can just always turn on.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. The one scene that was a little
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: tough for me was when towards the end the last
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: scene where with the other cops, she gets shot a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: bunch of times. Yeah, Lewis, she kills the guy up
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: in the thing after he drops all the metaln RoboCop
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and then Kurbit Sith stabs him with the thing through
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: his uniform. Yeah whatever, I didn't think. I mean, you
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: can get shot and they're bounced bullets to bouncing off,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: but he was able to poke through with a you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: a metal pipe or whatever it was.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to, you know, turn your
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: brain off for.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Certain Yeah, no, listen, Yeah, I didn't watch the movie
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, well, that couldn't really happen.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But there's certain scenes in that scene in particular, I mean,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: this is an allegory for Christ the guy being killed,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and we're actually recording this Easter weekend, a guy gets
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: killed and brought back to life. You know, he's resurrected,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and in that scene he's walking on a puddle and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: he's actually walking on water. They had it so he's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: walking on water.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: There's so many layers and more depth to this movie
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people just by hearing
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the title wouldn't even give it credit to so, you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they just think, oh, RoboCop. Even I mentioned you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the director pulver Joven didn't even want to read the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: script because it was just such a super title, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his wife ended up reading this and he was like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this is actually really brilliant and there are layers and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you could put your own spin on it. And thankfully
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Paul Verhoven directed it, because unfortunately the sequels, although I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: love RoboCop too, is missing that Paul Verhoven charm that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: we would get with movies like Total Recall and Starship
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Troopers just a few years later. So there's so many
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: iconic scenes and moments, from Alex Murphy getting killed initially
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and brought to being RoboCop, to the introduction of RoboCop
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: where you know you're not getting him right away. It's
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a slow build up. It's a slow shot of him,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you know, just his arm when you just see the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: gun going off. And there's so many elements to this movie.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: If it was made today, would not be done today.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: They would have had they would have had, you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: full on action sequence to start the movie. They would
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: have jumped into RoboCop within ten minutes. It wouldn't be
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: what it was because I think back in the day,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: people let movies breathe a little bit longer. You didn't
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: need to catch an audience's attention well microseconds into a movie.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Bus People had ADD and ADHDV, and.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: They weren't on their phones during the movies. They were
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: captivated by the characters that they were watching on the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: big screen, and RoboCop captivated audience. As I mentioned, they
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: made two sequels and then a reboot in twenty fourteen,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: which has an amazing cast. Gary Oldman, Michael Keaton, Samuel L. Jackson.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Theo's are three of my favorite actors. Fortunately
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the movie sucks. It's rated PG thirteen, which is absolutely.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Really but now that one's just a reboot.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Reboot, no connection to give.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: The prior movie, same basic story the first one, with
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: a modern twist, you know here and there different elements
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: with the wife involved with this, and that's another element.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You know, Alex Murfey was married with a kid, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you you know, you see his loss of humanity. I mean,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know much about his past. And that's sort
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of another great mystery involved with this movie is he's
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who the fuck he is. Yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and Lewis you know his partner Murphy, it's you, And
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: he gets these sort of clues and hints and he
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: has to go back and realize Alex Murphy was a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: man and he was killed. And at the end of
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the movie, and I know, we're going all over the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: place with this movie, but when he's given the opportunity
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to kill Dick Jones and the old man who runs
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the company asks him who his name is and he
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: says Murphy. Yeah, I mean, that's that's one of my
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: favorite endings to any movie. He went back to the house, Yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: he saw where he lived, he had the flashbacks. Unfortunately,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: they didn't capitalize on any of that shit in the sequel.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I mean they didn't get into any of that dynamic
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: of the humanity that he was starting to, you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: realize he was once a man, and they sort of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: just you know, got rid of that storyline. They really
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: fucked up the sequel, which I love the sequel. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: really love it. It's even more violent, believe it or not.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: He plays same guys in it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Same guys in it for the second, one third, one no,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and it's PG. Thirteen. Because they tried to capitalize on kids,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: because they sold action figures. They had a cartoon show,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: which is insane because this movie's extremely violent. There's rape,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: there's drugs, there's murder, there's just pure violence, and they're like, yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: let's make a cartoon out of us. But they did
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that shit back in the day. They would sell toys
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: for Terminator too, they would sell toys for Aliens. I mean,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: these are hard are rated movies. They had a Rambo
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: cartoon show. Rainbo's a Vietnam veteran who was in the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: pow camp getting tortured, and it's like not to make
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a cartoon out of this, let's sell toys. So the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: world was was drastically different in the nineteen eighties.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: They're going to sell toys of anything.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Well, now all the toys are sold to adults. I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't know if I told you this, but the number
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: one buyers of action figures are me like people my age,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: in their thirties and forties. It's not kids. Kids aren't
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: playing with action figures.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They just uh, yeah, they're on a screen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: They want to play on the screen. They don't want
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: to create stories with their toys, which was some of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the best things that I would do. Me and my
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: buddy specifically would play with our RoboCop and Terminator toys
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and we little battles and we figure out who would win.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And we are such fucking nerds. We look up on
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the internet all their abilities and be like, well, he
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: was able to survive this, he was able to survive that,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and we would make these like fake scenarios of a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: battle between the two of them. What's funny is now
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: there's a really popular YouTube channel called death Battle and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: they do exactly what we did. We would go on
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the internet and look up, you know, how much weight
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: could the Hulk lift up how much you know, could
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: could Superman do? And you know this, this web series
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Death Battle, which gets tens of millions of views, does
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that They break it down like really in depth based
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: on comic books and TV shows and movies. And we
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: were doing that with our RoboCop and Terminator figures, and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: then eventually they actually made a RoboCop and Terminator video game.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: There's quite a few bit of RoboCop video games. There's
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: one now out on the PS five and the newest Xbox,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: which I don't have. Do you have either of those?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Now? I have a PS four, yeah, which I can't
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: even tell you to last time I turned it on.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I played my Xbox. First of all, Xbox might
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: have the dumbest branding of all time because they have
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the original Xbox right, okay, sequels called Xbox three sixty
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: third one is called Xbox one.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, so then you go, I want to play
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Xbox one. You think, oh, the original Xbox is what
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you would think? No Xbox one. Then there's like Xbox
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: one Series S. Then there's Xbox one Series X, and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: then there's X PlayStation got it, brilliantly PlayStation one, two, three, four, five.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: That's what Rocky did. Then all of a sudden, they're
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like a Rocky Balbo. It's like, what are you doing, Xbox?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Do it right? PlayStation six better be called PlayStation six,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: but just pull a fucking Rocky and do the full
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: government name. But yeah, I just absolutely love RoboCop. I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: think we went over at pretty much everything, the special effects,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the main plot of a man, you know, finding his
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: humanity of again. There's just so many great scenes though.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Kurtwood Smith's character of Clarence Bodaker meeting Bob Morton and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: killing him, Oh my god, with the he enters the room,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: he goes, bitches leave, It's such a fucking great line.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: It's so good. And that explosion because he ends up
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: blowing him up with the grenade. The explosions in this
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: movie are the stuff of legend. I mean, they shut
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: down the whole city for these explosions, and some of
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: them went off a little too much like they if
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you get if you watch this movie robodoc they talk
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: about how you know, there's certain scenes where they get
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: that gun towards the end of the movie that really
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: like giant thought. They're blowing up buildings like storefronts and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: one of the explosions goes off right in their face,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and they got actually stunt credit for that, and they
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: got extra money because the explosions the sharks of glass
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: went into their fucking face while filming that movie, you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the actors, not the actual stun band, So they got
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: a stunt credit for it. So, I mean, there's so
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: many behind the scenes stories of the making of this movie,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and I just find it's so fascinating and one of
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: those iconic movies. I mean, it's RoboCop. He's such an
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: iconic character. The guy would end up showing up in
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: WCW wrestling, I don't do that sting the wrestler was
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: trapped in a like a jail cell in a match,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and I want to say nineteen ninety probably when they
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: were pushing RoboCop two, and it was I believe Peter
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Weller in the Robocops too. He comes out, he bends
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the bar bell the like you know, the bar that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: he's trapped in, and rescues staying. I mean, the guy.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You've seen RoboCop for the last close to forty years.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's been parodied, it's been duplicated, a lot of video
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: games have taken influence from this. A lot of movies
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have definitely taken influence from RoboCop, but in my opinion,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: nothing did it better than the original from nineteen eighty seven.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave it with that with Robocompany any
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: last words or you think we covered it all, Jonathan.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: No, I think I think we took care of it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I'd buy that for a dollar.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that guy. Yeah, I love that guy.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Me my buddy quote that I quote RoboCop probably more
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: than any movie ever I love. I'd buy that for
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a dollar.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And everybody's watching it and just laughing and you
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: don't even know, like know what it's about. Just him
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: it with like two chicks. Yeah, He's like, yeah, okay.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You were just throwing thrown into a world. I love
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that you're thrown into a lived in world where you
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: don't have to be overly explained things. If this was
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: done today, they'd be like, Oh, here's the lure of
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the you'd buy that for a dollar. Guy. They'd make
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a fucking origin movie of that guy.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that would come out