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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, July. This is Jaguar's Happy Hours and
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Speaker 1: now a guy who's really getting tired of hearing Oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought that was your mask j Peace. I'm used
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Speaker 1: to it. People have been asking me to mask up
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Speaker 1: for years. Saguars Happy Hour back from a Midsummer break.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick from the home studio. Still who knows
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Speaker 1: when that will change either, By the way, one of
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Speaker 1: the things we don't know right now in mid July,
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Speaker 1: with training camp schedule to begin right around the corner
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Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks away from when veterans would report,
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Speaker 1: but will they still at that point as a big question?
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Speaker 1: Lots to get to. Today, we'll hear from all of
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Speaker 1: our big three don't selling Jaguars analysts joins Us John
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Speaker 1: O's your senior writer Jaguars dot Com, and then Jack's
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Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Loghuman will go around the National Football League
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Speaker 1: as well, catch you up on some of the bigger
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Speaker 1: news from around the league, including what's happening in Washington,
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Speaker 1: d C. We'll get to that. Well, we don't know
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Speaker 1: much yet, but there are rumors of a story coming
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Speaker 1: out of the Post at some point, maybe as early
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Speaker 1: as tomorrow. Let's go to the phone lines now and
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Speaker 1: welcome in prior to the Jaguars Left tackle and Jaguars
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Speaker 1: analysts Tony Baselly, Tony, good afternoon, and how are you.
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Speaker 1: What's up? JP? I didn't appreciate the start of the show.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was very mean spirited about saying, uh,
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Speaker 1: you wearing a mask? I mean that was I thought
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Speaker 1: that was. But it's it's par for the course, you know. Well, thanks,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's nice of you. But I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do my part. I'm gonna wear my mask like you
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Speaker 1: asked everybody to do early in this thing. Ybe clear,
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Speaker 1: you should wear your mask in respect to others, especially indoors. Um,
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying you don't need a mask because of
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Speaker 1: your look. Like, wow, that's like the nicest thing you
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Speaker 1: ever said to me, Tony. The things have turned, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's cod cod cod. You've you've you've changed
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Speaker 1: your tone over the time. Here. Um, we got planning
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Speaker 1: to talk about here, Tony, Let's start with the Let's
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Speaker 1: start with the stuff, all right. I mean that we
2:29
Speaker 1: the deadline came and went where they had to agree
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Speaker 1: to a long term deal. Obviously, no deal, there's been
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Speaker 1: no trade. Um, you know he's still said that he
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to play here. So what now? What is next?
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Speaker 1: Is he gonna be dealt at some point? Is he
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Speaker 1: gonna have to sit it out? Or is he going
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Speaker 1: to sign it and play? What do you think? Yeah? Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, didn't you feel like, you know, Wednesday
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Speaker 1: or you know actually the say Tuesday going into yes,
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Speaker 1: should they done a deadline? That this was almost like
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Speaker 1: created by his agent to get some conversation going. That's
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Speaker 1: what it felt like. I don't know that because it's
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Speaker 1: not like anything that's like all of a sudden like okay,
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Speaker 1: like now we're gonna dial up the conversation because it
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Speaker 1: was the last time for this year, this football year,
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Speaker 1: that and go Colin could be traded and find a
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Speaker 1: long term deal. So it felt like and again I
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Speaker 1: am just making this up as a feeling. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is just me thinking out loud that it felt
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Speaker 1: like it was like something of good agent would do
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Speaker 1: going here right now. UM, I just have a hard
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Speaker 1: time believing, um that the Jacks are going to get
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Speaker 1: at this point, especially in this with all the unknowns
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Speaker 1: around COVID and what's gonna happen, and when the season started,
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Speaker 1: how many games are gonna get in and start or
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Speaker 1: even able to finish when these are all unknowns, Like
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Speaker 1: I think it's all gonna like they're gonna figure out,
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Speaker 1: and I think they play this year. But if you're
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Speaker 1: a team, are you gonna trade a first or second
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Speaker 1: rounder to the Jaguars for a guy that you can't
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Speaker 1: lock up and there's no guarantees gonna be on your
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Speaker 1: team beyond next year. And by the way, you're to
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Speaker 1: pay him to take up you know, almost eighteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars your cat. So if you're the Jags, why would
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Speaker 1: he trade him for anything less than a first or
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Speaker 1: second because you're gonna get a third and a uh
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Speaker 1: compensatory pick if he leaves in free agency, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the following year. So I don't if you're the Jags,
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Speaker 1: you trade them for a third rounder, is you're just like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I just want them out of here.
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Speaker 1: I want loft the books. I don't want to pay uh.
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Speaker 1: And so that's all this day like, because I say
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Speaker 1: all that kind of think out loud, I just think
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Speaker 1: he's here, now what he does he play or not?
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Speaker 1: That's the that's up to I think he does. I
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Speaker 1: I don't think he walks away from almost eighteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars this year if they end up playing, um the
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Speaker 1: whole stee and so um. But that's what I see it.
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Speaker 1: As we sipped today, Tony was selly with us, proud
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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars left tackle, and yeah, it was it
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Speaker 1: was interesting seeing all these news stories pop up about
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Speaker 1: it because it's like we're sitting right here. Nothing is
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Speaker 1: different than it was two weeks ago. You know, nothing
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Speaker 1: has changed. Yeah, it would be great to really understand
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Speaker 1: what was real, what was And I'm really curious Tony too,
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Speaker 1: to see there was those reports about other teams had
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Speaker 1: offered the Jaguars whatever, including a former Pro Bowl defensive lineman.
5:36
Speaker 1: That was kind of vague, but I'd be curious curious. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: former Pro Bowl offensive I mean defensive lineman. Okay, what
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Speaker 1: does that mean? Is that like he was the fifth
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Speaker 1: alternate one year. Um, he was the best defensive lineman
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Speaker 1: in the league. You know, there's like a big range
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Speaker 1: when you say former Pro Bowl player. I'm not taking
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Speaker 1: anything away from those guys. But then and what's his age,
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Speaker 1: which is injury history? I mean, so you start hearing
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Speaker 1: these day reports and I'm not saying that you know
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Speaker 1: that they're not the jag should should not have done it.
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Speaker 1: We just don't know enough. But it's obvious because the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing that is clear that Dave
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Speaker 1: called well you know and Doug Barone under Sean Kom
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Speaker 1: will train players if you give them the right value.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they're like, don't trade them with the
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Speaker 1: right values there, So what what what you know? The
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Speaker 1: story here to me is is that they were never
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Speaker 1: given the right value. Uh, in combination with a team
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Speaker 1: be on the lock up for the long, long term
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Speaker 1: deal Tony v Selli with us. Obviously, the big story
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Speaker 1: now is what's going to happen with training camp, preseason games,
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Speaker 1: if there are any, and then the protocol at getting
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Speaker 1: players back in the building. I mean, there are some
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Speaker 1: teams Tony that rookies report I believe in like two
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Speaker 1: days from now, allegedly that's on the schedule. Um, But
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Speaker 1: there are no official protocols that have been announced in place.
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Speaker 1: The players association in the league are still negotiating some
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Speaker 1: of these and uh, you know, we're two weeks out
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Speaker 1: from Veterans reporting for the Jags. So yeah, I mean yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean you go through the issues. I mean some
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Speaker 1: are pretty easy. I don't I don't think a big
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Speaker 1: deals that didn't to get over. You know, test every
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Speaker 1: day and every other day. Okay, you can come to that.
7:19
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something you can figure out. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: the preseason is is a sticking point. Owners want to
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Speaker 1: players want none. I would go towards zero two because
7:30
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna have fans, what's the point. It's
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Speaker 1: it's at that point just about I guess you get
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Speaker 1: some TV local TV money, you know, in advertising, that
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Speaker 1: could help out, but you have the cost of traveling
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Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, uh, I mean I think
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Speaker 1: you can figure that one out. But I get you know,
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Speaker 1: you know that's a that's a bargaining chip. But the
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Speaker 1: big one is this is the owners want to say, hey,
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Speaker 1: wait at second. There's two big ones. One is owners
7:55
Speaker 1: want to say, you know, uh are saying that if
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Speaker 1: you get coronavirus or COVID nineteen that's the non football injury,
8:02
Speaker 1: and the players are saying way. The second, nice to
8:04
Speaker 1: be a football injury. That's a big deal because that
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Speaker 1: determines whether the club, I pay you or not. Um,
8:10
Speaker 1: we're missing games. Um. And I would say in the
8:14
Speaker 1: in these times that if you're doing what you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to do in your quarantine and you're just you know,
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Speaker 1: playing football and you're trying to be a pro, and
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Speaker 1: you get COVID nineteen, that should be a football injury.
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Speaker 1: The second one, that's the biggest one. I think it's
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Speaker 1: this whole idea of s growing you know what I've
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Speaker 1: heard of the player's salaries say. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: they won't get it, but s growing it and saying
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Speaker 1: if you know, we can't finish the season or at
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Speaker 1: some point you know, we're not gonna pay it. And
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Speaker 1: the reason that's important because for all the invested veterans,
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Speaker 1: if you play one game, one play really, then your
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Speaker 1: contract becomes guaranteed for the rest of the year. And
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Speaker 1: so if you're if you're the owners, you're concerns like, okay, great,
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Speaker 1: we play week while we play week two. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: all hell breaks boosts and this gets worse and we
9:02
Speaker 1: can't play football any longer. They don't want to be
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Speaker 1: on on the hook for the rest of the year
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Speaker 1: for the players salaries, but by the letter of the
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Speaker 1: c b A. They would be because they're guaranteed after
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Speaker 1: game one, and so I think they're saying, like, listen,
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Speaker 1: we'll pay our guaranteed money, but the rest we're gonna
9:18
Speaker 1: put like in some s grow and uh and if
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Speaker 1: we can't finish, you know, we get that money back.
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Speaker 1: And the players are like no. And so that's the
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Speaker 1: big one. I think you have to figure out, which,
9:29
Speaker 1: by the way, makes sense to me if I'm an owner.
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Speaker 1: That seems fair. I don't think the owners are trying
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Speaker 1: to get over on players or anything in the sending
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Speaker 1: to pay their guarantee money. It's about the money as
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Speaker 1: far as salary. And if you can't move forward because
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Speaker 1: of uh, because of whatever reason you know around COVID,
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair because also in that kind of negotiation,
9:51
Speaker 1: you're also talking about what do you do with the
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Speaker 1: salary captain next year? Because local revenue is gonna be
9:57
Speaker 1: way down um, Advertising and marketing dollars gonna be way down, UM,
10:02
Speaker 1: and so the shared revenue that goes to set the
10:05
Speaker 1: cap outside of TV. And by the way, if TV
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Speaker 1: is affected, it could be down as well. And all
10:12
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you have a cap that goes
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Speaker 1: down next year, Well guess what happens. You have to
10:18
Speaker 1: cut a bunch of players because you can't afford them.
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Speaker 1: And so I think they're trying to figure out, like,
10:22
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of conversations that's gonna get kind
10:25
Speaker 1: of sticky that you got to figure out, like how
10:28
Speaker 1: do you handle that um and hopefully both sides can
10:31
Speaker 1: be reasonable both sides and come to an agreement looking
10:35
Speaker 1: at the big picture, I mean equitable understanding that you
10:38
Speaker 1: know what you like each side. You have to give
10:40
Speaker 1: a little bit. This is these are unprecedented times and
10:43
Speaker 1: because of where we sit, you know, I think there's
10:46
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of sacrifice to everybody. Tony.
10:49
Speaker 1: We saw how how ugly the baseball negotiation got. I
10:52
Speaker 1: don't know how much you followed that before. They finally
10:55
Speaker 1: agreed to play the sixty games schedule, but it took
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Speaker 1: them an extra month to get to that, and it
11:02
Speaker 1: wasn't pretty between the Players Association, but the Major League
11:05
Speaker 1: Baseball Players Association and Major League Baseball, but they finally
11:10
Speaker 1: got to it. I mean, but it was do you
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Speaker 1: fore I couldn't foresee this one getting that um ugly?
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Speaker 1: I guess right. I mean they're pretty close. Yeah, I
11:21
Speaker 1: think they're pretty close. I think both sides understand that
11:23
Speaker 1: that's not good for anybody. That's a bad look, that
11:26
Speaker 1: turns fans off. I think that hurts the brand. I
11:29
Speaker 1: think both sides will figure this out. Um, it's hard,
11:31
Speaker 1: it's not easy. You're asking. You know, these are big
11:33
Speaker 1: dollars and a lot of these are people's livelihoods, these
11:36
Speaker 1: are their investments. I mean, this is important stuff. So
11:39
Speaker 1: I think, but I think they'll get to get through it,
11:41
Speaker 1: um in a much you know, smoother, you know less,
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Speaker 1: you know, a place of in public, in a public
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Speaker 1: manner like the baseball to let's hope. So at least,
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Speaker 1: I don't think you know, they got some I mean
11:53
Speaker 1: everyone's pushing for these dates, like, hey, you know, football
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Speaker 1: supposed to start in two days, three days or whatever.
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Speaker 1: For Ki's reality is you start cutting preseason games, you know,
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Speaker 1: at two even, let's say you go to zero still
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Speaker 1: some time. I mean, I don't think you need to
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Speaker 1: start next week and have you know, seven weeks of
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Speaker 1: camp with no preseason I know one person who would
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Speaker 1: love that, but he's no longer around here. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: So I mean I think there's some like there's something
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Speaker 1: that we have a little bit of time. I think
12:23
Speaker 1: they're talking, and I do think they figured it out.
12:26
Speaker 1: Tony was elly with us on Jaguars Happy Hour. Another
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Speaker 1: announcement fairly recently by the organization the Jaguars reducing capacity
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Speaker 1: this year at the stadium cent just under seventeen thousand
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Speaker 1: all season tickets Returned payments can be refunded or credited
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Speaker 1: to the season ticket holder accounts for tickets this season
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Speaker 1: or next. The question, though, Tony is um access Who
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Speaker 1: gets those seventeen thousand seats is it's a probably a
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Speaker 1: match of tenure. Uh, the amount spent, the types of tickets,
12:58
Speaker 1: sponsorship all has a hand in this thing. And I
13:01
Speaker 1: think that's the challenge, not only for the Jaguars, but
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Speaker 1: for every organization in football right now, is to figure out,
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Speaker 1: if it's reduced, if it's allowed to be open, first
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Speaker 1: of all, who gets those of tickets. That's that's a
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Speaker 1: tough challenge. Yeah, it's tough, And like listen, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have some people are just gonna opt out
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Speaker 1: because they're afraid and they don't want to risk getting exposed,
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Speaker 1: which is you know, so I'll take a you know,
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Speaker 1: a good portion of the people out off the table
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Speaker 1: as far as wanting tickets, but you're still not gonna
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Speaker 1: have enough tickets for the demand, especially if you end
13:32
Speaker 1: up being good. You know early will be demand and
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have enough. But if you stink and
13:38
Speaker 1: you lose a bunch of games, well, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: it won't be that big a deal who gets to
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Speaker 1: go or not, because not very many people are going
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Speaker 1: to be risking their health and getting COVID to watch
13:47
Speaker 1: a bad football team. On the foot side, if all
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Speaker 1: the sudden, you know, mins you and the team and
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Speaker 1: the young players play well and they're an exciting fun
13:56
Speaker 1: team to watch and you look up and they're like
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Speaker 1: fighting for the play offs in the division. Will now
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Speaker 1: it's a real issue because everybody wants to go and
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Speaker 1: uh and so it'll be interesting. I think there'll be
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Speaker 1: you know, there's some tough moments to work through, and
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Speaker 1: you know, good news is I think bark lamping leadership
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Speaker 1: and Chad Johnson over ticketing. I mean they're going to
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Speaker 1: figure that out. Um. It won't be perfect, and I
14:18
Speaker 1: just hope everyone's really patient because I think you're gonna
14:20
Speaker 1: be the best they can in that area. And then
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Speaker 1: what you hope for is that there's Likeking beating at
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Speaker 1: the gate with more tickets sometime in like late November December,
14:31
Speaker 1: like people are like just just freaking out because they
14:34
Speaker 1: can't get tickets. Because what that tells you, like you
14:37
Speaker 1: have a pretty good football team. Like that's good, Like
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Speaker 1: now people really want to be there. So let's hope
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Speaker 1: that hope that it's gonna be a problem early, and
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Speaker 1: I hope it becomes a really big problem by the
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Speaker 1: end because it beats You're one football I like that
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Speaker 1: approach for sure. Tony is good to talk to you.
14:52
Speaker 1: It's spend a few weeks, man, and I'm glad you're
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Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, we're awesome. I'm still trying to figure out,
14:57
Speaker 1: you know what this means for you know us. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, there's all this tier approach, tiered approach,
15:04
Speaker 1: and you know, some of my favorite times of the
15:06
Speaker 1: year's training camp. We're gonna go hang out. We watched
15:09
Speaker 1: a little practice, but more than eight than we just
15:10
Speaker 1: hang out and talk and have a good time. So
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure we'll be doing that this year. I
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Speaker 1: think it's you and I are in like tier nine
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Speaker 1: or ten or whatever. I don't know how many tiers
15:18
Speaker 1: might be a tier for you and I. They might
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Speaker 1: have just quit tiers. Stay at home is what Please
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Speaker 1: don't come. Yeah, that's the trick too, is access into
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Speaker 1: the office. And you know it's it's taken a little
15:33
Speaker 1: time to get to the point they are now, but
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Speaker 1: then you started interacting with players. It's a totally different animal.
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Speaker 1: We'll find out in the coming days. Um what happens there,
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Speaker 1: you know, Tony, get stuff. Great talking to you. I'll
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Speaker 1: catch up with you soon, all right. J P. Tony
15:48
Speaker 1: Silly Priud of the Jaguars left Tackle and Jaguars analysts
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Speaker 1: joining us to kick off Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll we'll
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Speaker 1: senior writer, joins us now over the phone line. Good afternoon, John, JP.
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Speaker 1: it every day? Is three? Sounds like a threat? Yeah, Us,
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20:22
Speaker 1: Has been a few weeks and some downtime here and
20:25
Speaker 1: we're back on the show today for the first time
20:27
Speaker 1: in about a month. Yeah, and it's uh, you know,
20:31
Speaker 1: do you know, j P. July is always sort of
20:35
Speaker 1: about ratcheting back up. You know, you have your normal
20:39
Speaker 1: NFL body clock where many camp usually wraps up around June.
20:44
Speaker 1: We all sort of know the date and then this
20:46
Speaker 1: time of year you start of rashing back up and
20:48
Speaker 1: this is this is such a weird ramp back up.
20:52
Speaker 1: Very well, everybody's ready to go. I think everybody who's
20:55
Speaker 1: worked in this even more than a year, it feels
20:58
Speaker 1: like it's time to start, and yet there's so many questions.
21:03
Speaker 1: We all met today virtually sort of figure out some
21:06
Speaker 1: of the access thing, and there's still so many questions
21:09
Speaker 1: that we're all ready. I think fans are ready, and
21:12
Speaker 1: yet every day it feels like there's still Okay, that's
21:16
Speaker 1: how it's gonna be. Okay, I get it, that's how
21:18
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. So it's it's, uh, you know, we've
21:21
Speaker 1: been talking on this show for three or four months.
21:23
Speaker 1: The off season was weird and unprecedented, and you just
21:27
Speaker 1: get the idea that what's coming is going to be
21:30
Speaker 1: just as interesting and just as fascinating to follow. Yeah. Yeah,
21:34
Speaker 1: the runway to get off the ground for the season
21:37
Speaker 1: has a lot of potholes in it right now, John,
21:39
Speaker 1: that's kind of a good way to look at it.
21:40
Speaker 1: It's like, and it changes constantly the further you get
21:44
Speaker 1: down the runway here. And I don't know how confident
21:47
Speaker 1: I am right now that with everything going on with
21:50
Speaker 1: the Players Association and the league, I don't think it'll
21:53
Speaker 1: be as bad as baseball um was that that whole situation.
21:58
Speaker 1: But you know it might be a little bit. I
22:02
Speaker 1: don't know if this will be fixed tomorrow and ready
22:04
Speaker 1: to show up. And I think that's the scary people. Yeah,
22:09
Speaker 1: and you probably feel the same way I do. It's impossible.
22:12
Speaker 1: It's impossible to predict with COVID because there are so
22:15
Speaker 1: many there is there are so many questions that and
22:22
Speaker 1: education that has to be done to such a large
22:24
Speaker 1: group of people. Meaning you've got what players and they
22:29
Speaker 1: all sort of see COVID in their own way. I mean,
22:33
Speaker 1: like if you and I got together and talked about
22:36
Speaker 1: this thing, we would probably have different opinions and views
22:41
Speaker 1: and concerns just because the scientists do. And and so
22:47
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with having to educate the masses and
22:52
Speaker 1: then get them to understand and say, okay, that's the
22:54
Speaker 1: risk I want to take, and then you're trying to
22:57
Speaker 1: do it as a group to try to figure out
22:59
Speaker 1: how logistics are gonna be there's a lot. I don't
23:04
Speaker 1: think that they're going to be practicing. Uh. I'll put
23:10
Speaker 1: this way. I wouldn't be surprised if they are not
23:13
Speaker 1: practicing on what we all think of as a normal
23:16
Speaker 1: first practice date you know, what would that be August
23:20
Speaker 1: three or August spurts for that to get delayed. I
23:23
Speaker 1: think that feels like that's probably pretty normal for for
23:27
Speaker 1: professional sports trying to come back to have a little delay.
23:31
Speaker 1: I well, they have preseason games, you know, I'm skeptical
23:38
Speaker 1: will they start the regular season on the normal regular
23:41
Speaker 1: season starting date. I just have a feeling that they'll
23:45
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do that, probably because it's
23:50
Speaker 1: there's so much motivation to do so, meaning money and
23:54
Speaker 1: meaning everything else. John Olser, seen writer Jaguars dot Com,
23:58
Speaker 1: with us the big news today. You know, it's not
24:01
Speaker 1: even really news anymore. This is not you know, um,
24:07
Speaker 1: the Jags first round picks signed his contract today. That's
24:10
Speaker 1: not really news anymore because they're all going to sign
24:12
Speaker 1: the contract because there they don't have to hold out
24:15
Speaker 1: or anything anymore. But he is here, that we got him, John,
24:18
Speaker 1: he's here. Yeah. I had a chance to talk to CJ.
24:22
Speaker 1: And the story run on the site. Uh, you know,
24:25
Speaker 1: hour and a half or so. Um, you know it, Uh,
24:29
Speaker 1: it's not news. It's always good. I'm gonna talk to
24:31
Speaker 1: c J. Most players you've done the post signing interviews
24:35
Speaker 1: that I've done JP, and there's a there's a feeling
24:40
Speaker 1: of whoa whenever players signed, because then all of a
24:44
Speaker 1: sudden it's really you sign on the die of the
24:46
Speaker 1: line and now you're a pro. So they all go
24:48
Speaker 1: through that. Um, it's taking a little longer than it
24:52
Speaker 1: has in most off seasons to get everybody signed, But
24:55
Speaker 1: the reality is you've got a bunch of other things
24:58
Speaker 1: going on around the league. You've a pandemic, and there's
25:02
Speaker 1: no rush on there. As you alluded to, everybody's gonna
25:05
Speaker 1: get signed. There might be one or two guys who
25:08
Speaker 1: aren't in training camp around the league, but it's so
25:11
Speaker 1: minimal compared to what it used to be. It's a
25:13
Speaker 1: non story in terms of J specifically. You know, the
25:17
Speaker 1: one thing he said to me when I was talking
25:19
Speaker 1: to him a few minutes ago, it was really interesting.
25:22
Speaker 1: I kind of asked him, what are your feelings after that?
25:24
Speaker 1: As you know JP, a lot of guys talked about, well,
25:27
Speaker 1: I thought of my family, or I thought about this,
25:29
Speaker 1: I thought about this. The first thing he said was, look,
25:33
Speaker 1: this is not really I'm paraphrase he said, it's not
25:37
Speaker 1: really a celebration day. When he signed it, he felt
25:40
Speaker 1: motivated like Okay, now I'm here. Now I've got to
25:44
Speaker 1: backup being the top ten pick. Now I want to
25:46
Speaker 1: sign more contracts. It's sort of jibes with everything you've
25:50
Speaker 1: heard about this kid, is that he's he's very work oriented,
25:54
Speaker 1: no nonsense, he's a pro all that stuff both well
25:59
Speaker 1: for fulfilling his potential. So will he do it? Who knows.
26:04
Speaker 1: But I did think that was a pretty interesting comment
26:07
Speaker 1: from what is usually, as you know, a fairly routine interview.
26:11
Speaker 1: Right for people's side, there's a lot of pressure on him,
26:15
Speaker 1: especially around here with all the changes over the last
26:17
Speaker 1: couple of years here in the secondary. I mean, he's
26:19
Speaker 1: the you know, he's the top dog. Really he is.
26:25
Speaker 1: And and it's funny, I think because he was picked ninth,
26:28
Speaker 1: and because he wasn't a Kuda and there was so
26:30
Speaker 1: much talk about a Cuda before the draft that you know,
26:35
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because everything else going on, there's been
26:37
Speaker 1: so much this offseason. We haven't talked about the players specifically,
26:40
Speaker 1: but you know, top ten pick for a corner, I
26:44
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's rare, but just because he
26:47
Speaker 1: wasn't picked as high as Jail and number five overall
26:50
Speaker 1: and wasn't in that group. Top ten pig is a
26:53
Speaker 1: really high picks for a corner. As you said, this
26:56
Speaker 1: guy is expected to come in. When you're pick top
26:58
Speaker 1: ten at a corner, you're not just supposed to be good,
27:01
Speaker 1: you know you're supposed to be what Oinko has been
27:04
Speaker 1: tweeting about this guy, anybody who follows social media. Sinko
27:07
Speaker 1: again tweeted today, Um, this guy is really really talented
27:13
Speaker 1: and really really good. And I think maybe because he
27:16
Speaker 1: didn't get as much pre draft hype, I think maybe
27:20
Speaker 1: some casual fans don't really realize how good he had
27:24
Speaker 1: a chance to be. There's a reason he's in the
27:26
Speaker 1: top ten. And is there pressure, Yeah, But in my
27:29
Speaker 1: limited dealings with them, you get the idea that the
27:33
Speaker 1: focus is there. Just like I said about the interview
27:35
Speaker 1: a second ago, there's all sorts of little signs that
27:38
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna take it seriously if if he fails,
27:42
Speaker 1: and all NFL players have a chance to do that
27:44
Speaker 1: just like they have a chance to seed. But if
27:46
Speaker 1: he fails, it won't be because he didn't take the
27:49
Speaker 1: right approach. You feel good about that with this guy.
27:53
Speaker 1: John O's your senior writer, Jaguars dot Com. Here is
27:56
Speaker 1: our token Unique and doc way question. Oh, I know
28:00
Speaker 1: you've been waiting on that. That's why I put it last.
28:03
Speaker 1: We nothing's changed. I mean, it's not like there was
28:07
Speaker 1: no news the other day. It was news because the
28:09
Speaker 1: deadline was coming to other people that aren't around here
28:12
Speaker 1: all the time. But nothing has changed. Nothing is different
28:15
Speaker 1: than it was before. I'm sure there have been um,
28:19
Speaker 1: you know, conversations from his camp to other teams. I'm
28:22
Speaker 1: sure the Jags have probably got an offer to that
28:25
Speaker 1: didn't quite please them. And so we move on and
28:30
Speaker 1: what's the endgame for you right now on July? Yeah?
28:35
Speaker 1: I could be dead wrong. I've been wrong before, but
28:38
Speaker 1: it's everything you heard around the draft had heard that
28:41
Speaker 1: much different now. A lot of the stuff that you've
28:44
Speaker 1: heard out there this week feels like agent in Gokway
28:51
Speaker 1: side doing what you would expect him to do, which
28:54
Speaker 1: is why wouldn't they put things out there that made
29:00
Speaker 1: it look like there was a lot of interest in
29:02
Speaker 1: and perhaps there is. Um. I've never gotten the stunt,
29:07
Speaker 1: despite all the uh noise out there, that the Jaguars
29:13
Speaker 1: are in any sort of a mode to trade Unique
29:17
Speaker 1: to not have him on the team short of an
29:21
Speaker 1: offer that blows them out of the water, meaning and
29:24
Speaker 1: that happens. Look at the Dalen Ramsey got trade last year.
29:27
Speaker 1: Two first round picks to find is being blown out
29:29
Speaker 1: of the water. Uh, there's value for any player that
29:35
Speaker 1: meets that criteria. But it is not a situation like
29:39
Speaker 1: when they traded Dante Fowler mid season we did a
29:42
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You got the idea, look, we're
29:45
Speaker 1: not bringing this guy back. We want to get whatever
29:48
Speaker 1: value we can. Well, I don't get the idea that
29:52
Speaker 1: they're in the mode of what unique of Well, let's
29:55
Speaker 1: give them away for any value we can. I think
29:58
Speaker 1: they think, well, look, this is a value business and
30:02
Speaker 1: equity business. He's equity for our franchise whether he's on
30:05
Speaker 1: the field. I don't think they want to trade him.
30:08
Speaker 1: So um, I still don't believe it will happen. And
30:12
Speaker 1: you would think financially incentive wise, at some point you'll
30:16
Speaker 1: show up in play. But I don't pretend to know
30:19
Speaker 1: enough about what will make unique pick on that to
30:22
Speaker 1: guarantee that. But I don't think they're going to trade.
30:25
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's the thing with with the way he operates.
30:30
Speaker 1: He's so intense and um, you know, strong about his
30:35
Speaker 1: beliefs and what he says he follows up, but he
30:38
Speaker 1: does so will he s absolutely. But that's that's a
30:46
Speaker 1: great known about him though you can't predict that, you know. Yeah,
30:51
Speaker 1: and uh, you know again, I want to clarify. I
30:53
Speaker 1: hope he played in these places Jaguars a long time.
30:56
Speaker 1: I love talking to him, watching him play. It just
31:00
Speaker 1: feels so far like a big disconnect between what do
31:05
Speaker 1: he wants and what the league so far has been
31:07
Speaker 1: willing to pay. And let's hope that meets somewhere in
31:10
Speaker 1: the middle, because you'd like to see him play, You'd
31:12
Speaker 1: like to see him financially secure. He deserves it. Uh,
31:16
Speaker 1: but we'll see where it all meets. Johnny, Oh, stay
31:19
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31:23
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31:26
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31:33
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35:27
Speaker 1: the Jags social media channels. If you're watching there. You
35:30
Speaker 1: just had a nice look inside t I A bank
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Speaker 1: field and let's see that. The last time I was
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Speaker 1: I was on the other side of the stadium for
35:47
Speaker 1: a high school commencement um on the east side, but
35:51
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35:53
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35:55
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35:58
Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman joins us online now Jaguars analysts former defensive
36:03
Speaker 1: linemen logs, good afternoon, but how are you good? Jp?
36:07
Speaker 1: How are you doing? But hanging in here? Did you
36:11
Speaker 1: did you partake in the red Snapper um deal the season,
36:15
Speaker 1: in the four day season or whatever it was, I
36:19
Speaker 1: did not. It was red snapper in the Atlantic Ocean
36:23
Speaker 1: opened up last weekend. It was a Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
36:27
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna open again here, I believe tomorrow again.
36:31
Speaker 1: But no, I did not partake. I like to eat
36:34
Speaker 1: red snapper, but I also don't like a whole lot
36:37
Speaker 1: of crowds. Everybody else was trying to chase the red
36:40
Speaker 1: snapper down as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh,
36:44
Speaker 1: it's the for some reason, it's just you know, darn
36:47
Speaker 1: near extinct. I mean, you go out there and then
36:49
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36:53
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37:01
Speaker 1: Um So here we are. Logs were a week or
37:04
Speaker 1: so from rookies scheduled to report, and a couple of
37:08
Speaker 1: weeks from veterans reporting. But the feeling now is that
37:13
Speaker 1: those are loose at best. So uh boy, there's a
37:19
Speaker 1: conversations now between the Players Association and the League of
37:22
Speaker 1: protocols and money, and you get the feeling this is
37:27
Speaker 1: going to slide a little bit. Well, when you when
37:32
Speaker 1: you term it slide, you're talking about time frame wise, Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
37:37
Speaker 1: I don't think there's I don't think there's any any
37:39
Speaker 1: question that we could possibly see some sliding when it
37:42
Speaker 1: comes to time frame. And you know, just because of
37:45
Speaker 1: the the fluidity of the situation, I mean, people are
37:50
Speaker 1: still trying to I mean, and you look at the
37:53
Speaker 1: other sports is kind of an example, and you look
37:56
Speaker 1: at some of the difficulties that they've had to entertain
37:59
Speaker 1: so far. Trying to get baseball back up, Major League
38:03
Speaker 1: Soccer and the NBA is extremely difficult. So I think
38:08
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna incur some of the same scenarios
38:12
Speaker 1: when they try to convene to you know, to start
38:16
Speaker 1: everything up. And but here's the hard part is that
38:19
Speaker 1: you've got to come to an agreement on everything to
38:22
Speaker 1: where everybody is comfortable. And and here's the thing, I
38:25
Speaker 1: don't know if that that's possible where everybody's comfortable, because
38:29
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be certain parties that, no matter
38:31
Speaker 1: what you do, just because of the the pandemic, they're
38:35
Speaker 1: not going to find comfort in any solution. And the
38:37
Speaker 1: only solution to them will probably be as to opt
38:40
Speaker 1: out or to not play this year. So it's gonna
38:43
Speaker 1: be I think of a very interesting situation. I think
38:46
Speaker 1: it's one that if you're trying to lay odds, boy,
38:51
Speaker 1: this is this is a tough one to do. I mean,
38:53
Speaker 1: because where where would the money go? I mean, would
38:55
Speaker 1: it be on sliding back, would it be on already
39:00
Speaker 1: on time, would it be on not even making it
39:04
Speaker 1: to the start line. I mean, I think all those
39:07
Speaker 1: are are certainly strong possibilities right now. And I know
39:12
Speaker 1: we kind of we chatted a little bit about this
39:14
Speaker 1: JP via text today and you threw the idea out
39:17
Speaker 1: there and that you asked me what would I do?
39:22
Speaker 1: And I think it's a great question. And I read
39:24
Speaker 1: Fred's response to it earlier and Fred Fred Taylor had
39:27
Speaker 1: the interview and I think it was in the in
39:29
Speaker 1: the Times Union, and I thought Fred was dead on.
39:33
Speaker 1: You know, if if you're talking to me now, I
39:36
Speaker 1: would probably say, you know, boy, would be really cautious
39:40
Speaker 1: to even even possibly leaning towards not playing. But if
39:44
Speaker 1: you asked the twenty two year old, twenty one year old,
39:47
Speaker 1: twenty three year old Jeff Lockerman, let's go. Man hasn't
39:51
Speaker 1: made money yet? Yeah, let's go make some money. Well,
39:53
Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's not it's not really about
39:55
Speaker 1: the money, you know, first of all, I mean, yeah,
39:57
Speaker 1: I mean the money is great. You want to make
39:59
Speaker 1: money when you're at that at age. But when you're
40:02
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty four years old, you're you're you're indestructible,
40:08
Speaker 1: your bulletproof. You feel like you're young, You're healthy. Uh,
40:14
Speaker 1: I mean you're an athlete. I mean you're at the
40:16
Speaker 1: top of your top peak physical shape. I mean you
40:19
Speaker 1: think that, okay, that that type of illness or whatever,
40:24
Speaker 1: it's not going to bother me. And and I think
40:27
Speaker 1: it's kind of the some of us are similar attitude
40:30
Speaker 1: that what we're seeing in some of young America when
40:32
Speaker 1: it comes to dealing with COVID and that some of
40:34
Speaker 1: them is chosen not to worry so much about it,
40:38
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it would be no different
40:39
Speaker 1: for me if I was twenty two or twenty three
40:42
Speaker 1: years old, and especially playing ball, you just feel like
40:45
Speaker 1: you're you're glad here, you're a warrior. You know. Let's
40:49
Speaker 1: go interesting thoughts. Jeff Logan Jaguars analysts where they say,
40:54
Speaker 1: and let's go back a little bit to the part
40:55
Speaker 1: you're talking about baseball coming back and what they've had
40:58
Speaker 1: to go through to try to get act. They haven't
41:00
Speaker 1: started the regular season yet. NBA is now in the bubble.
41:04
Speaker 1: They've got their own issues going on with that right now,
41:07
Speaker 1: with guys going out to get food and then getting
41:09
Speaker 1: sent away. Uh n h L is about to start
41:13
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer. But the problem, your logs is that
41:16
Speaker 1: the NFL is so much bigger in terms of people involved.
41:20
Speaker 1: I mean, the NBA has what twelve guys on the roster,
41:23
Speaker 1: four or five coaches, some personnel staff around them. Um Man,
41:29
Speaker 1: I don't know what about you have eleven guys on
41:30
Speaker 1: the field and soccer and a bunch of guys on
41:33
Speaker 1: the bench. Right major League Baseball twenty five man active roster.
41:37
Speaker 1: They've think expanded that with this situation early in the season,
41:41
Speaker 1: but you still you have ninety guys in the roster
41:43
Speaker 1: and twenty coaches and trainers. And then that's a lot
41:48
Speaker 1: of people coming and going, and it's not in a bubble.
41:50
Speaker 1: By the way. All these people go home and live
41:52
Speaker 1: their lives and then come back into the building. So
41:55
Speaker 1: that's where the that's where the issue I think is
41:57
Speaker 1: because there's no sport that compares to that kind of
42:00
Speaker 1: number of people, you know, No, I mean, I mean,
42:03
Speaker 1: and you're you're just talking about just the sheered number,
42:07
Speaker 1: you know. Then then you start talking about okay, uh behavior.
42:12
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that the NFL behavior is anything
42:15
Speaker 1: different than what it is another pro sports. But let's
42:18
Speaker 1: say you Okay, let's say you've got you go into
42:21
Speaker 1: training camp with ninety. Let's say they stay there. You know,
42:23
Speaker 1: you're going ninety, you know, and all of a sudden,
42:26
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to make sure that they do the right
42:28
Speaker 1: thing and that they're not you know, going out and
42:32
Speaker 1: other places and being around a lot of different people. Well,
42:35
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that some of the quote unquote
42:38
Speaker 1: professionals would do that and make the right choices. And
42:40
Speaker 1: guys that have families and kids or have you know,
42:44
Speaker 1: a parent living with them and they're concerned about their
42:47
Speaker 1: well being. But then you know, you've got the younger guys,
42:50
Speaker 1: like they want to go out and they want to
42:52
Speaker 1: meet girls and and hang out with other guys and
42:56
Speaker 1: and dinner, like go eat dinner or whatever. You can
43:00
Speaker 1: run across it that way. Yeah, you want to do
43:02
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and so you know, so
43:05
Speaker 1: I think it's it's very difficult to create a bubble
43:09
Speaker 1: with the NFL, and that that's before you even get
43:12
Speaker 1: to the field. Now, once you get to the field.
43:15
Speaker 1: The last time I check, social distancings doesn't really apply
43:18
Speaker 1: to football. I would call of it. Call it more, uh,
43:22
Speaker 1: physical distancing. You've got to bash the other guy across
43:26
Speaker 1: from you. And so I know it is a defensive
43:29
Speaker 1: lineman lined up and got across from an offensive lineman
43:33
Speaker 1: and we butted heads almost every single plan. And when
43:38
Speaker 1: you butt heads, it's face to face contact. Okay, my
43:42
Speaker 1: nose is inches away from his nose. Okay, he's breathing
43:48
Speaker 1: on me. I'm breathing on him. He is not almost say,
43:52
Speaker 1: spitting on purpose. But I mean, look, when you're in
43:55
Speaker 1: a physical fashion and you're playing football and it's ninety
43:59
Speaker 1: degree outside, you're sweating, you're shedding, you're doing all these
44:04
Speaker 1: things that you know you're trying to prevent um, you
44:08
Speaker 1: know from CDC guidelines with COVID, and you can't. You
44:11
Speaker 1: can't do that when you're interacting in football, you know.
44:15
Speaker 1: So I mean, how do you how do you address that?
44:18
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you say, okay, well it's okay
44:20
Speaker 1: to do that in football, you know, And and I
44:22
Speaker 1: read and you hear about things that they're suggesting for
44:28
Speaker 1: maybe keeping the social distancing and football to where you
44:32
Speaker 1: have you know, okay, maybe only X number of guys
44:35
Speaker 1: in the weight room at a time, Maybe you only
44:37
Speaker 1: have X number of guys on the field at the
44:39
Speaker 1: same time. Well, look at football, it's a game that's
44:43
Speaker 1: played with twenty two people on the field at the
44:46
Speaker 1: same time. You have a huddle where everybody gets in
44:50
Speaker 1: the huddle together, all eleven guys, and they hold hands
44:54
Speaker 1: sometimes and then they clapp and they say, I can't
44:58
Speaker 1: hear you. So guy gets closer to the face, said
45:00
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, so we can hear the signal maybe better.
45:02
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's that's not like baseball. I mean,
45:06
Speaker 1: that's not like I mean basketball is pretty physical or
45:10
Speaker 1: not close too, but I mean football is like the
45:13
Speaker 1: the the anti social distancing sport of all time. So
45:19
Speaker 1: there's a lot of challenges. And here's the other thing.
45:23
Speaker 1: What what do you do if you're a coach and
45:26
Speaker 1: we're talking about players. Maybe a player chooses to opt out.
45:30
Speaker 1: What is your coach? You know, and you You've got
45:34
Speaker 1: your family, and your family might include, you know, some
45:40
Speaker 1: illness or some type of physical issue that you have
45:44
Speaker 1: that you're concerned about. Maybe it's a physical issue that
45:47
Speaker 1: a family member has. Maybe it's your mom's living with you,
45:51
Speaker 1: maybe your dad's living with you. Maybe you have a
45:55
Speaker 1: child with a who's immunocompromised or whatever. What where does
46:01
Speaker 1: that person? What does that person do? Right? Because they're
46:03
Speaker 1: not collectively bargained, so they're kind of on their own
46:06
Speaker 1: with the organization and how each organization wants to handle that. Yeah,
46:11
Speaker 1: So I mean there's just what about the officials and
46:15
Speaker 1: how are the officials gonna I mean, because you know,
46:17
Speaker 1: all we're talking about right now is is union and
46:22
Speaker 1: in the league and their negotiations and them coming to
46:26
Speaker 1: an agreement. But you know you've got officials involved. I mean,
46:30
Speaker 1: you've got staffing on game days. I mean, there's just
46:34
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to consider that factor in,
46:38
Speaker 1: and it's there's so many layers to having an NFL
46:42
Speaker 1: game being played and so many people that are required.
46:47
Speaker 1: And I get it. I mean, everybody wants to try
46:49
Speaker 1: to keep things as normal as possible, but there's a
46:52
Speaker 1: lot of things that have to fall perfectly into place
46:55
Speaker 1: for I think for the NFL to be able to
46:57
Speaker 1: have this season kind of go off without something happening
47:01
Speaker 1: that's going to delay or disqualify the season as a whole.
47:05
Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman with us kind of a downer there that conversation,
47:09
Speaker 1: but it's what it is, and that's the situation we're in.
47:12
Speaker 1: But to continue the bad news lugs, the Tennessee Titans
47:17
Speaker 1: gave Derrick Henry a four year extension, fifty million dollar deal,
47:21
Speaker 1: twenty five and a half million guaranteed, and so the
47:25
Speaker 1: Jags get at least, by contract, eight more games against
47:29
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Oh boy, he's a he's a great player.
47:33
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow. Uh that yard run that he
47:38
Speaker 1: had against the Jaguars, I mean that that goes right
47:41
Speaker 1: up to one of the all time great runs in
47:44
Speaker 1: NFL history. It's right up there with uh Earl Campbell
47:50
Speaker 1: lowering his head and just putting it right into the
47:53
Speaker 1: chest of the linebacker and he gets blown back. Uh.
47:57
Speaker 1: He was a man amongst boys, is what it? Stiff
48:03
Speaker 1: farming guys. I mean, he could you go to the run.
48:06
Speaker 1: Was the running back that was in Seattle for many years.
48:11
Speaker 1: Marshawn and Marshawn Man. The beast of the run that
48:14
Speaker 1: he had, beast mode run that he had in that
48:17
Speaker 1: in that game at the endy just running guys over
48:19
Speaker 1: and wouldn't quit. I mean, I mean that's where that's
48:22
Speaker 1: that run that Derrick Henry had. That's what it was. Well, yeah,
48:24
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. Wasn't last year. It wasn't
48:26
Speaker 1: ninety nine yards, but two years ago. Yeah, and then
48:29
Speaker 1: he had one last year was like seventy something yards
48:31
Speaker 1: against this team. You know, it wasn't It wasn't as
48:33
Speaker 1: missing that fourth or stiff farm one was just like ridiculous.
48:39
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jags were done at that point. It
48:41
Speaker 1: was over. They were they were toasted the season. They
48:44
Speaker 1: were like, you know, I didn't want anything. I mean,
48:46
Speaker 1: look look at the looking good for the Tennessee Titans.
48:49
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Tennessee Titans stand you've got
48:51
Speaker 1: to be excited. I mean they've got a good offensive line.
48:53
Speaker 1: I mean, they gott to replace Conklin right tackle, but
48:56
Speaker 1: you've got Derrick Henry back. You've got your quarterback back,
48:59
Speaker 1: and you you hope that he continues to build on
49:01
Speaker 1: what he was able to do. Last year because he
49:03
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal year. And uh, and Derrick Henry has
49:08
Speaker 1: kind of always been that engine for Tennessee. And if
49:11
Speaker 1: you can continue to get improved play with the quarterback,
49:13
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee's got to feel really good about where
49:15
Speaker 1: they're at, so, you know, and that's bad for the Jaguars.
49:18
Speaker 1: But look, look he's a running back. Um, let's not
49:24
Speaker 1: get crazy. And that look, i'd rather I'd rather face
49:27
Speaker 1: a great running back. I put this on, I'd rather
49:29
Speaker 1: face Derrick Henry than Patrick Mahomes twice. And it's an
49:34
Speaker 1: excellent way to put it. Way to close it out, logs, um,
49:38
Speaker 1: good stuff, man, We'll catch up with you again next week. Okay, JP,
49:43
Speaker 1: stay say stay healthy and make sure that the home
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49:52
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57:46
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Speaker 1: So some changes happening there, and we're still waiting to
57:54
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57:59
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Speaker 1: five per a hundred thousand, but they are number three
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Speaker 1: in the league in terms of that fourteen day average
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Speaker 1: daily cases per one thousand. Of course, those conversations continue
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Speaker 1: around the NFL and the NFL p A. What will
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Speaker 1: this look like next week when we reconvene on this program.
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Speaker 1: Only the only time will tell. The conversations continue about
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Speaker 1: when to start, how to get the protocol to get
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Speaker 1: in the building, the tiers system, who interacts with who,
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Speaker 1: and we just don't know a lot as of yet.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be a little clearer than mud next week.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to all of our guests joining ust, Tony Boselli,
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Speaker 1: John Ozier, Jeff Logaman, Bryan Bonifant back in the studio,
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Speaker 1: Max Hawkman back at the stadium, getting us going on
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Speaker 1: the video side. I'm J. P. Shadrick. That'll do it
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Speaker 1: for Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.