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From OKC to Chicago: Decoding Josh Giddy's Value in Today's NBA · Front Runner Podcast Collective

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Vince Carter: yo, it's tuesday, you know what time it is.
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Vince Carter: Front runner podcast collective is back on the air.
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Vince Carter: I am on the air.
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Vince Carter: I am your humble host, vince, and we are sorry for the delay that uh, friday caused, but we had a?
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Vince Carter: Uh, we had somebody who had some personal issues that they needed to deal with and, uh, we send our, uh, our thoughts out to Soraya at this point in time.
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Vince Carter: So we are back, we have a pod to do and we will do that.
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Vince Carter: Uh, we are down a man or down a woman, however you want to put it today, but we persevere on and in today's podcast we will be speaking about Josh Giddey and his contract issues with the Chicago Bulls, where he kind of ranks in a I don't know what you want to call it hoop type, came out with a poll and we want to kind of look at that, and where he kind of slots in and things of that nature.
1:21
Vince Carter: The other thing is is that we're going to be talking about zach harper guards as far as that's concerned, and we will talk about the sinners today as it relates to his little tear system that he has going on.
1:43
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1:51
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2:20
Vince Carter: But there was one other thing we're gonna talk about the rafters and what has gone on with messiah jiri leaving the toronto rafters.
2:30
Vince Carter: Who's in charge now, his new title that he just got and where this leaves the actual franchise at this point in time.
2:39
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3:30
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3:52
Vince Carter: Now let's go ahead and get into it.
3:55
Vince Carter: We got a lot to get to.
3:56
Vince Carter: Let's crack it open and we're going to start talking about josh giddy and the Bulls conundrum of paying this man.
4:04
Vince Carter: So, like I said, I read, like our iterated before who's.
4:10
Vince Carter: I came out with a little article, I want to say a couple weeks ago and we can kind of sitting on this where they rank the guards and I found it interesting that on hoops I bored.
4:25
Vince Carter: They put Jamal Murray at 13th, they put LaMelo Ball at 14th and then they slotted Josh Giddey at 15th All-star level type of guards in front of him.
4:47
Vince Carter: Obviously fantastic playoff performance in Jamal Murray.
4:53
Vince Carter: You know what Jamal Murray has done in the playoffs has been remarkable since he's been in the league.
5:00
Vince Carter: Sometimes not so much in the regular season, I don't know, jamal gets bored whatever it is, but in the postseason that dude is nails and we love all the action that he causes in the playoffs.
5:15
Vince Carter: But then you have giddy behind lamello ball and I thought it was apropos to basically talk about this in regards to his contract situation.
5:24
Vince Carter: It's kind of like if you move into a neighborhood, right, and the property value of that neighborhood is at a certain level or whatever the case may be remortgage, and you know they're telling you your house is significantly less than the houses that are like a door down or maybe even like three doors down, and now you are looking at a situation with the chicago bulls and we are talking about we are almost at the end of august.
6:02
Vince Carter: Now my birthday is about to come up, about to be a super, super, duper old man.
6:07
Vince Carter: This man is still not paid.
6:11
Vince Carter: Now I understand that all the restricted free agents are having the same similar issues that are going on, but you would think for what the Chicago Bulls want to do and how I would say impressive his 2024-2025 season for the Chicago Bulls was that it would be a no brainer To retain somebody who is 23 years of age and just scratching the surface.
6:43
Vince Carter: It's like living in a cul-de-sac and you got two Teslas in every garage.
6:51
Vince Carter: But the way Chicago is treating our guy Giddy.
6:55
Vince Carter: They're treating him like basically like you ain't no Tesla, my guy, you know what I'm'm saying.
7:04
Vince Carter: You are not.
7:05
Vince Carter: Ball is making 37.95 million next year.
7:10
Vince Carter: Murray is making 46.39 million next year.
7:17
Vince Carter: Now I know that josh giddy is not getting anywhere near those numbers just because and we'll get into all of it and why and the how and whatever in one second here's where it gets real spicy.
7:31
Vince Carter: He's gone from 26.3 percent from deep as a 19 year old rookie to 37.8 percent from three last year at the age of 23.
7:43
Vince Carter: So that's not a step forward, that's a triple jump and in the league's eyes a triple jump has a price tag.
7:51
Vince Carter: Usually when you see positivity and positive numbers go up like that, you're like talking about growth and where where do we see the growth going from here?
8:05
Vince Carter: But Chicago was not moved by any of these numbers whatsoever.
8:09
Vince Carter: If you're 23 years of age and you're a point forward and you're ranked 15th on ball initiator and you can't get pen to paper with your franchise, it's like having a Bugatti in the garage and no keys.
8:26
Vince Carter: This is crazy.
8:29
Vince Carter: I am sure there are fans in Chicago right now that are saying man, lock him up before somebody gets a hold of him.
8:37
Vince Carter: I'm sure of it.
8:40
Vince Carter: Here's the dossier on our guy, josh Giddey four seasons, 280 career games, 279 starts.
8:51
Vince Carter: He's been a small forward, he's been a power forward, a shooting guard and a point guard.
8:57
Vince Carter: He's played four positions in four years.
9:00
Vince Carter: Incredible adaptability, or you can call it identity crisis, or where can we stick this guy?
9:07
Vince Carter: His assist percentage in that time frame he's a.
9:12
Vince Carter: He was 32.9 last season.
9:15
Vince Carter: That's a career high.
9:16
Vince Carter: That's Tyrese Halliburton territory, just as a FYI, so you want to kind of lock it in to where you think he is as a ball handler he's in the Tyrese Halliburton area, combined with career highs of 14.1 points a game, 7.5 rebounds and 6.1 assists a game.
9:40
Vince Carter: You got a profile that doesn't pop in scoring but quietly tilts the floor in okc.
9:48
Vince Carter: His rebounding was a quirk in chicago, it's a feature.
9:53
Vince Carter: 8.1 boards per game last year is the highest of his career.
9:58
Vince Carter: So you got career numbers at 14.1 that don't jump off the page.
10:05
Vince Carter: 7.5 rebounds, which is incredible for a on ball initiator.
10:10
Vince Carter: And yeah, the assist levels are a little bit lower than what he put out in chicago.
10:16
Vince Carter: But understand this.
10:17
Vince Carter: He was playing with shea gilgis alexander.
10:20
Vince Carter: That makes a difference.
10:23
Vince Carter: One of the best guards in the league, our mvp, right now our reigning mvp, and before giddy stint in chicago he was draymond green with a passport.
10:38
Vince Carter: But here is the stat that's in oklahoma 6.3 percent and 33.7 percent.
10:44
Vince Carter: So that's what he shot the first couple years in OKC.
10:49
Vince Carter: We gets traded to Chicago and suddenly he's hitting 37.8 percent on four attempts a night.
10:56
Vince Carter: That's an increase by 41 percent in accuracy, on more volume and shooting equivalent of a guy that's been basically driving the honda his whole life.
11:10
Vince Carter: And now he shows up at work with a porsche fully paid off.
11:16
Vince Carter: You have to ask is this porsche leased?
11:21
Vince Carter: Are these numbers real?
11:24
Vince Carter: Basically right, because front offices are obsessed with sustainability.
11:29
Vince Carter: This leap could it be explained a little more as a defined role, a cleaner catch and shoot looks that he was getting or just rare shooting high streaks over a single season.
11:45
Vince Carter: Now, depending on where you land, is where you think, josh, giddy, money should end up, and I understand chicago saying, hey, we'd like to see it for another year before we drop 30, some odd million dollars on you, because the one thing that we always talk about in this climate of the NBA is that what you pay your player, that's maybe not your, not, definitely not your lead guy.
12:12
Vince Carter: And what I mean by lead guy is like this is a guy who's going to have the most opportunities to score the basketball on your team, or even the second guy.
12:22
Vince Carter: What do you pay that third guy?
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Vince Carter: What do you pay that guy who maybe is the glue of your team?
12:30
Vince Carter: You can't pay him like 35 million, can't, can't do it.
12:34
Vince Carter: And the reason why is because you see now how hard it is to build teams nowadays.
12:41
Vince Carter: We understand about the restrictions of the aprons and what have you.
12:46
Vince Carter: I'm not going to bore you with those.
12:48
Vince Carter: We talk about them ad nauseum, but if his shooting is a blip, they're tying up calf space.
12:54
Vince Carter: That in a skill that could slide back into the low 30s by next april.
13:12
Vince Carter: Career okay, see was 1.0 makes per game from deep in his first year in Chicago.
13:14
Vince Carter: That went up by.
13:15
Vince Carter: I have a point.
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Vince Carter: So he was 1.5.
13:15
Vince Carter: It seems like a small change, but in the box score it's a massive in perception, you know.
13:22
Vince Carter: So you're looking at somebody who shot it more, shot it more confidently and also had more success when he moved on from chicago.
13:31
Vince Carter: And there can be a myriad of reasons why that happened.
13:34
Vince Carter: It could be pure ownership of the basketball, knowing that you're going to have the ball in your hands.
13:40
Vince Carter: You're not going to have to share it with Shea Gildress Alexander anymore.
13:44
Vince Carter: It could be that Benny Billy Donovan's system works better for our guy, josh Giddey, and even though we love Mark Dagnall, we love the system that he's created down there in Oklahoma City.
14:00
Vince Carter: Maybe it just wasn't the right style for Josh Giddey.
14:05
Vince Carter: But the one thing that you cannot teach is, in today's NBA, a six foot eight guard who can create and rebound for right now we're gonna say that the shooting is not real.
14:18
Vince Carter: Right, he's a niche player a A 6'8 guard who can create, rebound and knock down 38% from three is a cornerstone.
14:28
Vince Carter: So that is the dilemma that the Chicago Bulls are in.
14:33
Vince Carter: Was it a flash in the pan?
14:35
Vince Carter: You know you bring a guy in, you're like, well, we can get the best out of him.
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Vince Carter: So if you're saying you can get the best out of him and then you see the best out of him and then you still kind of refuse to pay him, where are we in this situation?
14:53
Vince Carter: Matchup data points picture he's guarded by point guards 19% of the time.
14:58
Vince Carter: He's guarded by small forwards 26% of the time.
15:01
Vince Carter: He's guarded by power forwards 18 percent of the time.
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Vince Carter: That 90th percentile in small forward matchups means you can throw him at wing in a playoff series and not panic.
15:17
Vince Carter: His career defensive rebounding rate is 20.9 percent percent among guards, with a 30 percent assist rate last season.
15:30
Vince Carter: The only guy who has that in his dossier is our guy luka donchic.
15:34
Vince Carter: We know what kind of animal luka is.
15:39
Vince Carter: If josh giddy is giving you that, that's not just versatility, that's rare air that he's in.
15:43
Vince Carter: Ash Giddey is giving you that.
15:44
Vince Carter: That's not just versatility, that's rare air that he's in Matchup difficulties face 86 percentile.
15:49
Vince Carter: He's not hiding on defense, he's taking hard assignments.
15:53
Vince Carter: That's what the advanced stats say From B-Ball Index.
15:59
Vince Carter: As a big wing who can run the point, they don't grow on trees, unless you're Sam Prest prestey and then they're in your backyard.
16:08
Vince Carter: You just get them.
16:09
Vince Carter: I don't know how he does it.
16:11
Vince Carter: That's what one scout said.
16:12
Vince Carter: So did you pay for the versatility and live with the fact that his rim protecting grades are enough?
16:19
Vince Carter: But here's the thing you don't expect rim protection from your point guard anyway, even if he was 6'8 or whatever the case may be, you don't expect him to be that guy Now if you're putting him in situations where he is now the power forward or he's guarding the power forward.
16:39
Vince Carter: I can understand that, but I think what you have to look at Giddy is Is you have to look at him as a swiss army knife.
16:45
Vince Carter: What he can do is use his physicality to be more of a two-way player with a little bite, that's what he could be so he can deter your guards and your wings and things of that nature, while also giving you a lead ability on the offensive end.
17:05
Vince Carter: This is where we turn to the stock ticker.
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Vince Carter: Now his rookie true shooting percentage .478.
17:13
Vince Carter: Last year it was .570.
17:17
Vince Carter: That's a huge leap over a four year period.
17:22
Vince Carter: That's like a startup doubling doubling its revenue in one physical cycle.
17:27
Vince Carter: Bull's ownership has to ask is this sustainable growth or is this a market bubble?
17:34
Vince Carter: It's not just shooting, it's his free throw rate.
17:37
Vince Carter: It jumped up also to .281 last season, which is nearly double his rookie mark.
17:45
Vince Carter: More he had showed, more aggression, more points, more reasons for his agent to be smiling.
17:52
Vince Carter: He thought that the
17:54
Vince Carter: payday was coming.
17:55
Vince Carter: And again we talk about this all the time.
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Vince Carter: We talk about second drafts, we talk about players needing just a change of scenery.
18:04
Vince Carter: And how many times have we heard coaches say, oh, if we had that guy we could just get him into our system.
18:11
Vince Carter: We can make him better and we can.
18:14
Vince Carter: You know we can work with him to really carve out a niche.
18:18
Vince Carter: You did what you were supposed to do.
18:19
Vince Carter: You got him
18:21
Vince Carter: to that level.
18:22
Vince Carter: So now where are we with the payment situation?
18:27
Vince Carter: Every day without a deal is another day where you are looking, maybe, at a trade.
18:34
Vince Carter: The one thing that you don't want is the thing that's going on in golden state is you don't want, and also in berkeley you do not want your guy to sign the qualifying offer because then you're locked in.
18:48
Vince Carter: That means that there's a no trade clause.
18:51
Vince Carter: Yeah, he's getting minimally paid.
18:54
Vince Carter: So you're winning on that end.
18:55
Vince Carter: When the back end, you know what you're losing.
18:58
Vince Carter: You're losing the player.
18:59
Vince Carter: The player is going to walk
19:00
Vince Carter: out the door.
19:01
Vince Carter: If you are willing to roll the dice and saying that his three-point shooting barrage that he had last year was basically just an aberration, you could do that rim finishing from our guy.
19:16
Vince Carter: 57.6 percent at the cup last season, that's in the 23rd percentile.
19:21
Vince Carter: For a player who creates a ton of rim attempts, that's leaving money and wins on the table.
19:28
Vince Carter: So you start to see where some of the cracks in Giddy's foundations are.
19:35
Vince Carter: With some of these stats.
19:36
Vince Carter: Now, patience is cheaper than hope.
19:40
Vince Carter: If you commit big money now, you're
19:44
Vince Carter: capped out before.
19:46
Vince Carter: We don't have to worry about patrick williams ceiling anymore.
19:49
Vince Carter: But we do have monis buzellas.
19:51
Vince Carter: We do have kobe white to worry about and if he's the guy who's making the real leap and you're saying, hey, that's the guy that I would really want to go ahead and invest in, then come out and say that go ahead and make a trade and trade giddy somewhere else.
20:08
Vince Carter: Now the bull case is this is that passing creation volume is the 97th percentile.
20:15
Vince Carter: Creation quality is at 93th percentile it's 20.38.
20:22
Vince Carter: He has finisher in the league.
20:23
Vince Carter: He might not be the best rim protector in the league, but as far as creating opportunities for others, he's one of the best.
20:31
Vince Carter: If you're in luca lebron tier, that's god mode, son.
20:36
Vince Carter: It's a rare commodity and if you
20:40
Vince Carter: can't draft it.
20:41
Vince Carter: In chicago his win shares were per.
20:45
Vince Carter: 48, were 0.121.
20:48
Vince Carter: That's a career high for him.
20:50
Vince Carter: It's his box plus minus went from negative or negative 0.9 as a rookie to plus 3.0 last season.
21:01
Vince Carter: So you can see the growth and also keep in mind he went through some real struggles in Oklahoma City.
21:10
Vince Carter: There were some allegations that actually seemed to have been debunked.
21:15
Vince Carter: Analytics will say pay the connector before you lose the team also, especially after you just traded Lonzo ball to
21:24
Vince Carter: Cleveland for him.
21:26
Vince Carter: If you believe in the three-point shoot, I would say that you will be looking at something like four years, probably about a hundred to a hundred and five million dollars.
21:36
Vince Carter: That's probably what you're looking at.
21:38
Vince Carter: If you don't believe in the three-point shooting, then you're probably looking at something three years plus a team option for the video and about 88 million somewhere in there.
21:52
Vince Carter: Leave yourself with a little cushion.
21:56
Vince Carter: Leave yourself with a little where his trade value is still there, because somebody might believe in the in the three-point shooting.
22:05
Vince Carter: They might really need the on-ball initiation that he
22:09
Vince Carter: can give you.
22:10
Vince Carter: You continue to delay this.
22:12
Vince Carter: You know what's going to happen.
22:14
Vince Carter: It's that qualifying offer that is.
22:16
Vince Carter: The boogeyman in the building, by the way, is a qualifying offer because you know, once you've done that, you crossed over to Rubicon.
22:25
Vince Carter: If he signs a qualifying offer, it's not gonna be a ton of money.
22:29
Vince Carter: You'd have to almost add something to the trade to get a player back that would be worthy of giving up Giddy.
22:39
Vince Carter: Oh, and, by the way, he would have to waive his no trade.
22:45
Vince Carter: So you are in a rock in a hard place.
22:49
Vince Carter: So hit us up on twitter at frontrunnerpc, let us know.
22:57
Vince Carter: Put in like giddy decision and tell me
23:00
Vince Carter: what you think.
23:01
Vince Carter: This guy in dollar a year guy, is he a 25 million Dollar annual guy?
23:08
Vince Carter: Is he a 30 million?
23:10
Vince Carter: Let us know, be great.
23:13
Vince Carter: Also, you can hit us up on our community page on YouTube, so frpc Vince, or just kind of Google our guys at Harvard.
23:24
Vince Carter: He out here being the ops right now making friends in some markets but making enemies and others.
23:32
Vince Carter: He dropped that top 40
23:33
Vince Carter: list of sinners.
23:34
Vince Carter: Somebody's mom is clipping this article right now and mailing it to her son or sending it via email.
23:41
Vince Carter: Why is our guy 17th and why is your guy 9th?
23:47
Vince Carter: You know a lot of people get into this.
23:51
Vince Carter: We did, we were enthralled.
23:54
Vince Carter: We commend zach harper for being bold, for putting this list together, and now he's doing it with the guards.
24:01
Vince Carter: So
24:02
Vince Carter: we love this.
24:03
Vince Carter: The penthouse is none other.
24:06
Vince Carter: He's got the HOA private chef probably doing DHOs on the balcony Just to keep it sharp.
24:13
Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying.
24:15
Vince Carter: Iron sharpens iron type of situation.
24:17
Vince Carter: Jokic cares about his horses.
24:21
Vince Carter: He doesn't care at all about this list.
24:23
Vince Carter: He wouldn't care about this at all unless his name came up.
24:27
Vince Carter: You imagine this dude's confessional in in a big brother's household type scenario.
24:33
Vince Carter: Call it big man house or whatever.
24:35
Vince Carter: I mean it would be pure shrug energy.
24:40
Vince Carter: It's like I'm here because I have to be here now.
24:45
Vince Carter: Please stop talking to me so I can facetime my stable of horses and you believe him career out of making mvp level dominance.
24:56
Vince Carter: Look like a sunday afternoon jog, no flex, great passing vision and he would make your favorite
25:06
Vince Carter: point guard blush.
25:07
Vince Carter: Jokic's on-off splits last year were incredible.
25:12
Vince Carter: He was a positive 12.3 when he was on the court net rating and without him on the court it was a negative 1.6.
25:21
Vince Carter: That is almost a 14 point turnaround.
25:26
Vince Carter: That's not a gap, that's a canyon.
25:29
Vince Carter: Now you know the 26, 12, and 9.
25:34
Vince Carter: On 58% shooting, league leading offensive box plus warp the kicker is Denver's net rating With him on the floor.
25:46
Vince Carter: We just told you that it was super crazy.
25:48
Vince Carter: That's architectural stability.
25:51
Vince Carter: Everyone else in the house is arguing about who's second best, and that's for sure because jokic is the best center in the league and you're wondering if his horses are getting enough rest between races.
26:04
Vince Carter: That's what he's thinking about his next triple double while you're in mid-sentence trying to like what you think you should be at on this level of food chain.
26:14
Vince Carter: Here's a nice little ditty for you on.
26:19
Vince Carter: Oh man, I said ditty, we can't say that anymore.
26:22
Vince Carter: Huh, damn, here's a fun fact
26:25
Vince Carter: for you then.
26:26
Vince Carter: Yokich averaged more assists per 100 possessions than jamal murray.
26:32
Vince Carter: The center was the point guard and the fuse at all.
26:37
Vince Carter: Get out.
26:37
Vince Carter: Who was number two?
26:41
Vince Carter: Who was in the second tier?
26:42
Vince Carter: In his tier two, he had Victor went by Yama Joel and be questionable
26:50
Vince Carter: and Anthony Davis.
26:51
Vince Carter: Three elite talents, one shared kitchen.
26:56
Vince Carter: Imagine the breath extension between these three guys.
26:59
Vince Carter: One guy measuring his wingspan in the corner and one guy telling you I'm actually not supposed to be cooking in here.
27:06
Vince Carter: Two fantastic years.
27:09
Vince Carter: Right, he had the first year where he kind of came on year one 21.4 points a game, he almost averaged.
27:20
Vince Carter: He averaged more.
27:21
Vince Carter: Ten and a half rebounds a game and almost four
27:24
Vince Carter: assists and three.
27:26
Vince Carter: Now his second year, his encore for that 23.11 rebounds a game, 3.7 assists a game, but the blocks were still there 3.8.
27:43
Vince Carter: His three-point percentage jumped up from 32.5% to 35.2% and he shot more of them.
27:52
Vince Carter: He shot 58.6% on tools and he poses when we might in this tier you feel truly optimistic about, about his long term and what he could look like in surpassing yoke at some point in time.
28:09
Vince Carter: He's the only contestant who wins HOH and sits out two comps and still runs the room like Big Brother style.
28:20
Vince Carter: Winwin's block rate across two seasons is 9.5% to 10.8%.
28:29
Vince Carter: He's literally breaking block metrics that were already designed for Mutombo.
28:37
Vince Carter: Rest in peace.
28:38
Vince Carter: Our guy went healthy 30 and 10, an MVP hardware laying around with a free throw rate at 41.8 percent, bullying defenses wherever he goes.
28:52
Vince Carter: His resume comes with a giant asterisk though 19 games played last season, and that's not just missing a couple.
29:01
Vince Carter: You want him on the court.
29:05
Vince Carter: You're like, if we can get, if you can just squeeze 60 games out of this guy Just 60 games, keep us competitive and then nudge him into the playoffs.
29:17
Vince Carter: We have no idea what we could be looking like in late April and May.
29:23
Vince Carter: 66 games he played in 2022 and 2023.
29:28
Vince Carter: The 24th season he only played 39 games, and then we just talked about the 19 he played last season.
29:35
Vince Carter: Scary times.
29:37
Vince Carter: We've talked about it on this podcast at nauseam.
29:40
Vince Carter: Uh, you know the year where he did play the 62 game or the 66 games was the year that he had the knee injury brought him back and it's just been
29:51
Vince Carter: downhill since then.
29:52
Vince Carter: Concern is AD.
29:54
Vince Carter: He doesn't even want to play center Now.
29:57
Vince Carter: Also, at the age of 31, he played 42 games with the Lakers, nine with the Mavericks.
30:03
Vince Carter: Because there was an injury.
30:05
Vince Carter: He has a game 3.5 assists, 1.2 steals and 2.2 blocks.
30:12
Vince Carter: When he Moved over to Dallas now, his defensive expected was in the 97th percentile.
30:21
Vince Carter: He also was a six point one percent block rate.
30:25
Vince Carter: 80 stretch with the Lakers versus the Mavericks is the cleanest split screen stat of the season.
30:34
Vince Carter: Better scoring in LA, better playmaking in Dallas and the same rim protection everywhere he goes.
30:41
Vince Carter: Doctors have 100% cleared him.
30:44
Vince Carter: He's now doing basketball activities.
30:47
Vince Carter: He lived with monks over the summer, but it's all in the attempts to get better.
30:53
Vince Carter: It's to do everything I can To be the greatest superstar, the greatest basketball player ever to have walked this earth.
31:02
Vince Carter: That's what
31:04
Vince Carter: he's chasing Now.
31:07
Vince Carter: The third tier is a who's who of guys that you would love to have on your team and you don't want to pay them a ton.
31:14
Vince Carter: You want to pay a lot of cash, but not like all the cash.
31:18
Vince Carter: Sam Adebayo, you got Carl Anthony Towns, you got Rudy Golgar, you got Alperin Shangoon, you got Jaron Jackson Jr and the walking double-double himself.
31:32
Vince Carter: Demantis Sabonis Top 10 seasons in defensive win shares, career assist to turnover ratio spectacular.
31:43
Vince Carter: He had a bad season last year.
31:46
Vince Carter: His shooting was terrible and that could have been because he's been working on his range for like the last couple seasons and I don't know if it'll ever be where it kind of needs to be and I wonder if he could just maybe just go ahead and let that go now that kal-el where is there in miami, because I think if kal-el where is, who ma'am is which, which is just a dominating first abandon and also give you that defensive versatility and that defensive tenacity that you always bring every single game.
32:21
Vince Carter: So if Bam is doing that, and then Kaleel Ware can handle, if he can hit league average three point shooting on like decent volume, I'm not talking about taking like eight per game, I'm talking
32:34
Vince Carter: about taking four.
32:35
Vince Carter: Now, carl anthony towns we have had a lot to say about him on this podcast.
32:42
Vince Carter: He rehabbed his image, no doubt, until the knicks ran into the pacers and those walls closed in again.
32:51
Vince Carter: There's gonna be some weirdness.
32:54
Vince Carter: There's going to be some fouls that are questionable.
32:56
Vince Carter: There's going to be some times where you go why aren't you rebounding?
33:00
Vince Carter: For me, karl-anthony Towne shows up again Cats playoff usage drop and what he was able to give the Knicks
33:09
Vince Carter: this last year.
33:10
Vince Carter: Tom Thibodeau didn't want to use any bench whatsoever, so I am really intrigued to see what year 2 is going to look like, especially if he is going to be put at the 4.
33:23
Vince Carter: I do.
33:24
Vince Carter: I am defensive player of the year, and even at the age of 32.
33:30
Vince Carter: Still a defensive rebounding rate north of 23%, and he shot 68.7% from the field.
33:40
Vince Carter: Last year he slowed down a little bit in the rebound department, but the rise of Anthony Edwards has turned him into more of a background character, and that's what it should be, because you don't want rudy gobert having like ample opportunities to score the basketball.
34:03
Vince Carter: He is a type of guy where one for some reason, the hands aren't great.
34:05
Vince Carter: He is a rim runner mostly.
34:09
Vince Carter: You don't want to really have to post him up and give him touches and things of that nature.
34:14
Vince Carter: That is not what he's good at now.
34:17
Vince Carter: If this was the 90s, rudy gogara would be like but now we're in 2025, bub, so unfortunately it's about pace and space and that is not your game.
34:30
Vince Carter: If he can continue this and then basically groom, uh, johan baron, baron jay, where jay?
34:39
Vince Carter: So when he is ready to move on from this contract?
34:46
Vince Carter: Like in size, like in wingspan, maybe not as weird when it comes to making, he doesn't make a ton of mistakes, he's just for some reason Rudy is just not liked universally around the league and I don't know if that's with him being French or they don't like him being a Euro and just embarrassing people by blocking shots.
35:14
Vince Carter: I don't know what it is, but he has had a hard time in the league as far as getting love, what he's meant to the Minnesota Timberwolves over the last three years that he
35:26
Vince Carter: has been there.
35:26
Vince Carter: The next guy on this list is Alperin Shankun.
35:31
Vince Carter: Now Alperin Shangoon won the war right, he is a surprise contestant, no doubt, who's walked out as a pawn and somehow became HOH and he controls all the votes right now, 22 years of age.
35:47
Vince Carter: He posted 21.4 points a game, 11 rebounds, 54.5% shooting deep.
35:57
Vince Carter: We didn't know that was in his bag.
35:59
Vince Carter: He showed it last year While keeping his uses at 26.2 on a playoff team.
36:05
Vince Carter: Two years ago everyone thought Jalen Green.
36:08
Vince Carter: Jalen Green was going to be the guy that the Rockets was going to build around.
36:13
Vince Carter: He was the golden boy.
36:17
Vince Carter: Now Shingun is the one hosting strategy meetings in the kids A step season.
36:23
Vince Carter: He's literally cooking Cooking.
36:27
Vince Carter: Shingun's on-off offensive rating swing was 10.7.
36:34
Vince Carter: The Rockets literally played like a top five offense with him on the floor and a bottom 10 when he wasn't
36:45
Vince Carter: on the floor.
36:46
Vince Carter: We're looking at Jokic style numbers.
36:48
Vince Carter: Look our guy.
36:49
Vince Carter: I don't care if Shingun was in on on that nail position and then having cutters come through and finding open shooters.
36:55
Vince Carter: This is guy who they're going to be building around.
36:59
Vince Carter: This is guy that you know katie's going to look for as far as creation on the ball and things
37:05
Vince Carter: of that nature.
37:06
Vince Carter: That brings us to jaron jackson jr.
37:09
Vince Carter: What did he year?
37:11
Vince Carter: Well, he stayed out of foul trouble for the most part he played.
37:16
Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying.
37:18
Vince Carter: A lot of things went on for our guy.
37:20
Vince Carter: Did he shoot 37%?
37:24
Vince Carter: Yes, he did.
37:25
Vince Carter: Did he only average 5.6 rebounds For a 6'11 guy?
37:30
Vince Carter: With all that athleticism, that was also true.
37:33
Vince Carter: One and a half five blocks per game yeah, I mean, he did his damn thing.
37:40
Vince Carter: You know, being a rim deterrent.
37:42
Vince Carter: Now, taylor jenkins did not survive the season really stepped up to the challenge last year even under the most duress on the defensive end.
37:52
Vince Carter: Like I said 1.5 blocks a game.
37:54
Vince Carter: He also had a handful of steals and things of that nature.
37:58
Vince Carter: He was all over the place.
37:59
Vince Carter: He's a guy who you can pull out on the island against a smaller wing and live.
38:05
Vince Carter: To tell the tale, lots of improvement for our guy jared jackson jr.
38:10
Vince Carter: Lots of improvement for our guy
38:13
Vince Carter: Jaren Jackson Jr.
38:14
Vince Carter: Now Sabonis for the Sacramento Kings.
38:16
Vince Carter: You know what I'm saying.
38:17
Vince Carter: He's also like an Alcren Shangoom type dude, loving that nail hitting cutters and all of those type of things.
38:25
Vince Carter: 13.8 rebounds a game, backing up 19 triple doubles Sick numbers.
38:33
Vince Carter: But the problem with sabonis is this is that he does not offer any rim protection whatsoever.
38:39
Vince Carter: So if you have somebody who is 611 like a skyscraper, but if you're going to continue to trot out keegan murray as that guy, sacramento is going to probably end up where they ended up At the end of this year, which
38:54
Vince Carter: is playing Now.
38:56
Vince Carter: Here's the other thing.
38:57
Vince Carter: With that they just got tremendously worse on defense With Zach Levine and DeMar DeRozan.
39:06
Vince Carter: No disrespect to those guys, derozan is in his mid 30's.
39:11
Vince Carter: Where do you keep him in your tier policy if he can't give you anything on defense except he's literally I want to say about six foot eight.
39:21
Vince Carter: You know.
39:23
Vince Carter: If I'm being real, they'll tell you he's 6'10, but he's probably closer to six foot eight.
39:29
Vince Carter: But his heart, his determination to get rebounds, that's part of defense as well.
39:36
Vince Carter: You get the ball for your team.
39:39
Vince Carter: How long can you go with a six foot eight center and you don't have really any rim protection whatsoever?
39:48
Vince Carter: And your point of attack defense has gotten significantly worse, with Zach Levine being a guy who is gonna probably have to contain the point guards, you know, depending on if Keon Ellis is there or whatever the case may be.
40:02
Vince Carter: I
40:03
Vince Carter: loved his passion.
40:04
Vince Carter: Zach Harper did drop some jewels in this one.
40:07
Vince Carter: In this tier you have Evan Mobley, avisa Zubach, quazingus, oh, and Chet Holmgren.
40:16
Vince Carter: Now Mobley made the leap last year Threes at a respectable clip of 33.7%.
40:25
Vince Carter: His box plus minus was absolutely off the chain was absolutely off.
40:37
Vince Carter: The chain he had was 22.3 points again, 11 rebounds, almost four assists.
40:40
Vince Carter: He shot 63.3 percent from the field and, yeah, he was out there doing his thing.
40:44
Vince Carter: With the offense being what it was last year, you can see why they waited patiently for this and hopefully it's only going to get
40:53
Vince Carter: better from here.
40:54
Vince Carter: Avista zugwatch did something really spectacular.
40:59
Vince Carter: He didn't reinvent himself, but what he did is spammed himself.
41:03
Vince Carter: Zugwatch was supposed to be a role guy set screens, rebounds and they thought pg was going to be.
41:10
Vince Carter: So who was going to take some of that scoring punch?
41:13
Vince Carter: Well, we saw Norman Powell do it, but the other person who did it was Avisa Zubach.
41:18
Vince Carter: This dude almost averaged like 12 boards a game.
41:21
Vince Carter: He shot 64 percent from the field and you knew the range was never going to be more than three or four feet away from the basket, but he still dominated, still did his thing.
41:32
Vince Carter: He had a defensive uh rebounding rate over 30.
41:36
Vince Carter: He found me all defensive.
41:40
Vince Carter: Second team, now zuboff's played in 80 games.
41:44
Vince Carter: That'll just let you know.
41:45
Vince Carter: With all the stuff going on, with as big as he is with, with the physicality that he plays with, for him to play 80 games, it's truly remarkable, especially in this day
41:57
Vince Carter: and age of.
41:58
Vince Carter: Guy was a critical piece to the final piece of what okay sees championship puzzle was forming a terrifying twin tower set up with our guy Chet Holmgren.
42:10
Vince Carter: His offensive rebounding percentage was 11.2.
42:13
Vince Carter: His defensive rebounding percentage was 29.6.
42:17
Vince Carter: I mean, he was a machine when it came to the boards.
42:22
Vince Carter: Now, christoph Porzingis, on the other hand, he had kind of a tough year last year.
42:28
Vince Carter: He was in Boston coming off the championship glow, perfect stretch, big for what Boston wanted to be and what have you.
42:37
Vince Carter: But because of some mysterious illness, my man played in 42 games.
42:42
Vince Carter: They quietly salary dumped him to Atlanta.
42:47
Vince Carter: So Atlanta is hoping to get that dude, get that guy back.
42:50
Vince Carter: He also shot it almost 63% overall, so he was a devastating three point shooter.
43:00
Vince Carter: You had to obviously leave him alone to be able to do that, but depending on where you are, especially now he's going to Atlanta, where there will be space for him, there will be the opportunity to pick and pop, but he has to stay healthy, like that's got to be the thing.
43:19
Vince Carter: Like this, whatever it was kind of immune deficiency situation.
43:23
Vince Carter: I don't know what was going on, but he was out of action for the longest period of time with the Celtics last year.
43:31
Vince Carter: What's interesting is that he missed his entire rookie season with an ankle injury and then he played 82 games the season after, which was last year, but came back in time to run shit in the playoffs and get his team to the championship round, where he
43:52
Vince Carter: also was instrumental.
43:53
Vince Carter: Switching on to guards, switching on to small At OKC wanted to do on the front end and also on the back end Of their defense.
44:02
Vince Carter: It was brilliant On his part the other guys in this tier Is that there's so much upside, it's just can you stay on the court?
44:14
Vince Carter: You know, I think, christoph karzingas but what he did a couple years, couple years prior, that's kind of his zenith of where he's going to be.
44:23
Vince Carter: His rim protection and finals you literally just block everything.
44:29
Vince Carter: He's definitely going to be in that top tier
44:33
Vince Carter: at some point.
44:34
Vince Carter: And then you would say, what about daniel gaffer vince?
44:37
Vince Carter: What about him?
44:38
Vince Carter: What about what he's able to bring to the dallas mavericks?
44:42
Vince Carter: Well, it all depends on whether anthony davis is still like resisting playing the five, even though we all know that's his best position.
44:51
Vince Carter: Daniel gaffer's led the league in dunk percentage.
44:55
Vince Carter: Literally he finished with more than half of his shots as dunks.
44:59
Vince Carter: Think about that.
45:00
Vince Carter: Now jacob purtle played on a very, very terrible now.
45:06
Vince Carter: They started off like a house on fire and then kind of fell back to the pack or whatever.
45:10
Vince Carter: He's an invisible glue that only shows up when you watch the tape.
45:15
Vince Carter: You either are not a fan of glass wall or you don't live in toys highlights,
45:22
Vince Carter: all of them.
45:22
Vince Carter: I love this list.
45:24
Vince Carter: We didn't get to every last guy.
45:26
Vince Carter: But the thing about it is why I love this list is just the conviction that zach har had.
45:31
Vince Carter: We went through like 15 of the guys, items that we need to get to
45:35
Vince Carter: the Heat traded.
45:36
Vince Carter: Highsmith to the Nets.
45:38
Vince Carter: Haywood.
45:39
Vince Carter: Highsmith is off to Brooklyn.
45:41
Vince Carter: Miami ships him and a 20-32 second round pick for a protected, no rotation help.
45:48
Vince Carter: Just bookkeeping.
45:50
Vince Carter: Nets is taking your Give me your tired, give me your poor.
45:55
Vince Carter: That's what they're doing.
45:57
Vince Carter: They got.
45:58
Vince Carter: They're the only team that has any money left.
45:59
Vince Carter: So yeah, like you know, little mid-level exception contracts or whatever.
46:04
Vince Carter: Go talk to Brooklyn Because they can take that on.
46:07
Vince Carter: Let's keep it plain Miami got cheaper by trading Highsmith.
46:12
Vince Carter: They slide about 4 million million under the first under the apron and they pocket 5.6 in trade exception.
46:22
Vince Carter: Barry
46:23
Vince Carter: jackson nailed it.
46:24
Vince Carter: If this was the first time in a decade where miami's willingness to weaken their roster, it didn't soften the blow at all.
46:34
Vince Carter: You lost two stars last year in all the upheaval of Jimmy Butler.
46:44
Vince Carter: Now his 2023-2024 vs his 2024-2025 splits tell the story.
46:49
Vince Carter: He went from 20.7 minutes to 24.6.
46:59
Vince Carter: He bumped his threes from 3.1 attempts per game.
47:01
Vince Carter: Now for brooklyn's classic cut, 22 million below the floor.
47:05
Vince Carter: They had to do something, so they scooped up highsmith 8, the expiring 5.6, and tacked on another second round pick to their growing war chest.
47:18
Vince Carter: Remember, the Nets are already added to, first this summer and now and this wasn't even about Highsmith, as you're starting for, this is about basically keeping cover for this is while Basically keeping cover For whatever trade is going to come next For them, because if you don't think they're looking at a trade, you don't think Sean Marks is out there Trying to scour the universe To get a star To Brooklyn With Durant, kyrie and James Harden.
47:47
Vince Carter: Hopefully you did.
47:48
Vince Carter: Hopefully you're not trying to do the exact same thing
47:51
Vince Carter: as you did.
47:51
Vince Carter: The last thing that I want to get into is the Raptors situation, and they had a clueless offseason.
48:00
Vince Carter: Raptors fans, let's call it what it was this last season 30-52.
48:04
Vince Carter: Whew, face plant, no playoffs, no playing, just vibes.
48:11
Vince Carter: And now Toronto is running the season with straight out of clueless ingram quickly rj barrett, yaka perto.
48:19
Vince Carter: When you look in actuality together, it's like, uh, as if bobby wester has just become the new president of person of player personnel.
48:31
Vince Carter: Masai Jerry has been fired.
48:34
Vince Carter: Uh, obviously that happened over the summer and it was a couple months ago, but they just gave our guy Bobby Webster the title.
48:43
Vince Carter: It just brought in, like Brandon Ingram, but he didn't
48:51
Vince Carter: really do anything.
48:52
Vince Carter: Toronto's 30 wins to relevance seems like a long shot.
48:57
Vince Carter: This is sheriffs closets moments.
49:00
Vince Carter: Everything looks fabulous when you scroll, but half of these fits don't match when you wear them.
49:07
Vince Carter: So, with majuri being fired, let let's be real.
49:11
Vince Carter: He was the culture shaper.
49:14
Vince Carter: He turned Toronto into a destination, swung the Kauai deal and brought home the only chip in 2019.
49:24
Vince Carter: But now the steps are being taken
49:27
Vince Carter: by Bobby Webster.
49:28
Vince Carter: Bobby Webster, tumor shot share solid, steady, lackable, but no one was given the movie its style Keith Pele, who is the CEO of the Toronto Raptors and basically all the sports situation that goes on in Toronto.
49:49
Vince Carter: And this is in Bobby Webster talking about Bobby Webster, the states couldn't be higher.
49:54
Vince Carter: Fans aren't just grading Webster on contracts, they're grading him on this.
50:00
Vince Carter: Franchise has peaked in 2019.
50:04
Vince Carter: And then they were just going to the depths of the sea.
50:07
Vince Carter: At this point, when you talk about like they're starting five, and you talk about scotty bars making 38.6 million and you got ingram quickly making 32.5 million dollars, rj barrett making 27.7 and yaco perdo making just a hair under 20 dollars, locked up in five guys and you can't even touch the plan with that.
50:33
Vince Carter: And here's the kicker ingram quickly and rj all signed their deals under masai.
50:40
Vince Carter: Now bobby, now he's got pay off all this debt.
50:44
Vince Carter: When masai went on that spending spree, bobby was stuck with the receipt.
50:50
Vince Carter: Continuity isn't
50:51
Vince Carter: free, it's expensive.
50:52
Vince Carter: Let us be clear the Raptors offseason was mostly paperwork.
50:58
Vince Carter: Is Colin Murray boils who was number number nine overall pick.
51:04
Vince Carter: They signed Elijah Martin in round two.
51:08
Vince Carter: They did a bunch of exhibit 10 flyers on David Roddy, olivier Saar, tyson Dickenhart.
51:18
Vince Carter: They lost Chris Goucher to Boston.
51:21
Vince Carter: We will see what they can get out
51:23
Vince Carter: of Brandon Ingram.
51:24
Vince Carter: And he learned anything in his time off.
51:26
Vince Carter: Are you going to shoot more threes?
51:29
Vince Carter: You know it looks like they are trying to run it back.
51:33
Vince Carter: I don't know why.
51:35
Vince Carter: Team was not that good.
51:37
Vince Carter: This wasn't a makeover, this was a touch-up.
51:42
Vince Carter: Drafted defense, extended the center, kept the GM and that's it.
51:47
Vince Carter: No other news to report.
51:50
Vince Carter: So you're going to see a lineup with Scottie Barnes, brandi Ingram Quickly, rj Barrett and Porto.
51:58
Vince Carter: So we're going to zoom out
52:01
Vince Carter: on the Raptors.
52:02
Vince Carter: It's not just a team, it's a Maple Leafs, sports and entertainment.
52:08
Vince Carter: It's the Crown Junior of Canada, it's basketball's megaphone and Webster said the job is a one of one.
52:16
Vince Carter: He's right.
52:17
Vince Carter: Toronto can call can sell itself as more than wins.
52:22
Vince Carter: But here's the thing you don't get ratings.
52:27
Vince Carter: You don't, and that's the thing that people need to understand when we talk about the toronto raptors.
52:36
Vince Carter: You got all this salary tied up and all these guys and they're on deals where it's not close to the end with brandon engelman is
52:45
Vince Carter: just beginning actually.
52:47
Vince Carter: So how do you get out of this?
52:49
Vince Carter: Where does the respite come from?
52:53
Vince Carter: Owners, like stable margins?
52:56
Vince Carter: Are you going with ownership?
52:58
Vince Carter: And who?
52:58
Vince Carter: I mean?
53:01
Vince Carter: That's really where.
53:02
Vince Carter: Remember in the movie clueless, where shares big realization it wasn't christian, it wasn't elton, it was josh.
53:09
Vince Carter: All along, maybe Webster was the answer, sitting right in front
53:13
Vince Carter: of their face.
53:14
Vince Carter: Continuity doesn't trend, but it builds trust and I'm talking about a 30 win team.
53:24
Vince Carter: You know, you can tell.
53:28
Vince Carter: You can tell fans all they want.
53:30
Vince Carter: Like you know, if you don't go out and get that guy who is going to come off your bench and you were so Worried to give up, like first round capital and things of that nature, what do your fans say?
53:42
Vince Carter: You know Messiah went out and got Kawhi Well, okay, kawhi, well okay.
53:47
Vince Carter: Kawhi is different from 7th dude in your rotation.
53:53
Vince Carter: You gotta
53:55
Vince Carter: be very true.
53:55
Vince Carter: At this present time, webster fits the politics better, but the politics don't win games.
54:04
Vince Carter: Players do, so what is it going to be?
54:07
Vince Carter: Is it billed as a fresh start?
54:10
Vince Carter: If it's billed as a fresh start, what are you doing with the players that you have currently?
54:15
Vince Carter: How bad can you let this get?
54:17
Vince Carter: You just wonder what the heck you're going to get out of Manuel quickly that justifies that contract that he's getting.
54:28
Vince Carter: Maybe you can squint and see a 42 to
54:33
Vince Carter: 44 win team.
54:34
Vince Carter: Worst case is Ingram gets hurt again, which he does every single year.
54:39
Vince Carter: Barnes is stagnant, quickly still looks overpaid and RJ stays streaky as ever.
54:47
Vince Carter: And now you're back to a 30-win team and some ugly talk radio Just saying and too bad to contend.
54:58
Vince Carter: It's the kid that in February 1 of Ingram, rj or quickly is in trade rumors because this roster is isn't balanced enough to stand pat.
55:10
Vince Carter: Somebody's gonna be making the tough decisions, and we think that guy
55:16
Vince Carter: is Bobby Webster.
55:17
Vince Carter: Now what he makes as far as these decisions are concerned is going to be the next step into whatever the next iteration of the Toronto Raptors.
55:26
Vince Carter: I mean, I don't know who would want to keep any.
55:34
Vince Carter: Get into some sort of like Out of the first 20 games You're still 15-5 or whatever, but I don't know if that's going to happen.
55:44
Vince Carter: I do not know If that's going to happen.
55:46
Vince Carter: So here's the last piece of this thing and then we can get up out of here.
55:51
Vince Carter: The Raptors identity is at a crossroads.
55:56
Vince Carter: They have a lot of contracts that are held.
55:58
Vince Carter: The franchise is Chubb and Grant and the Raptors they play the Knicks and they take on the Heat In December.
56:18
Vince Carter: So I wonder how, how tied they are to their start.
56:24
Vince Carter: Does that make Any of their decisions any difference?
56:30
Vince Carter: You just wonder.
56:31
Vince Carter: Because here's the thing that, like, people don't want to talk about whether messiah jerry was on the hot seat or there was some philosophical differences or whatever the case may be.
56:42
Vince Carter: Just making no mistake about it in 2019 he brought them a title and now you can say he rested on his laurels.
56:50
Vince Carter: You can say, whatever case may be, the one thing that you have to understand is that you gotta be willing to make bold moves when they come along.
56:58
Vince Carter: You gotta be, and hopefully it all works out.
57:04
Vince Carter: Hopefully it
57:06
Vince Carter: all works out.
57:06
Vince Carter: But now, if you are the toronto raptors and you're bobby webster, you're trying to get yourself off some of these contracts, which is going to be super hard to do, because a lot of teams don't.
57:17
Vince Carter: They don't have the cash space to take these guys.
57:19
Vince Carter: And then the other thing is is that the willing tracks that you have, because quickly making 32.5 it's going to be hard pressed to to, you know?
57:34
Vince Carter: Uh, trade him off now.
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Vince Carter: If you were attaching an asset like tracks right there, you gotta hope one of the other guys pops, one of the younger guys pops that are on a rookie deal.
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Vince Carter: So then maybe you can say I'm really interested in like and I can attach a manual quickly to it and they can get off a salary that's 34, 35 million or whatever the case may be.
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Vince Carter: That's the only way
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Vince Carter: to do this.
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Vince Carter: Or hope that brandon ingram such an awesome, awesome comeback year and then you can trade him for pieces and or draft capital.
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Vince Carter: It will be hard, but I wonder what Canadian fans are thinking.
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Vince Carter: Basketball season just waiting for hockey season to start all up and go watch the Eagles Connect to Jurassic Park and start all up and go watch connect to jurassic park.
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Vince Carter: Can we bring back the echoes of what happened in 2019?
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Vince Carter: Only time will tell.
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Vince Carter: But with that being said,
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Vince Carter: that's our part.
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Vince Carter: Uh, special shout out to saraya who's uh in mass.
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Vince Carter: Uh, on some personal business.
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Vince Carter: Uh, our hearts and our love go out to her.
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Vince Carter: Um, we want to thank maya for what she's doing, contributing to the pod, and all our frpc crew.
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Vince Carter: Now also, if you have multiple frpcvince at gmailcom, hit us up there, like if you want to lean in, do so.
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Vince Carter: The other thing is this is that you want to make sure that you're being a friend, telling a friend about the podcast.
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Vince Carter: Grow the podcast with us.
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Vince Carter: You know
59:24
Vince Carter: what I'm saying.
59:24
Vince Carter: Also, make sure to download, make sure to leave us some five star ratings, make sure to leave us a couple comments, either on the apple pod or spotify.
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Vince Carter: We will read those and we always keep it gangster.
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Vince Carter: We always keep it like this for you.
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Vince Carter: If somebody sends us a tweet or a follow-up on something that we talked about today and it's good enough, guess what?
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Vince Carter: Friday's pod, you'll
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Vince Carter: get it right.
59:55
Vince Carter: Uh, the best part of you is you make sure that you surround yourself with super positive, super supportive of you and looking after your well-being and have your best interests at heart.
1:00:10
Vince Carter: If you have people like that in your life, make sure that you appreciate them, make sure you acknowledge those people that exhibit those behaviors and if you're doing so you're making that happen and you would ask me how do I do that?
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Vince Carter: Well, it's real simple Send them a text, call them, facetime them, get together with them, and if you're doing all that, you're a well rounded individual and we would love to have you on our team For Maya who's holding it down.
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Vince Carter: I am Vince, and this has been front runner podcast collective on a tuesday.
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Vince Carter: We will see your ass back here on friday.
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Vince Carter: Deuces.