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BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! We are bringing “Remote Contact” to the Paranormal Research Symposium in historic Gettysburg this August! · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  Coming up, this isn't something that I would
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  have ever thought of us having an opportunity
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  like this a year ago. Welcome to our podcast
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  where we take deep dives looking at various topics
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  through a paranormal lens. So we have good news
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  and then really good news. The first good news
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  is that I think we're officially going to be
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  done having to answer the question of are we
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  going to be at either of the two really big Paracons
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  that happened this weekend in Ohio and Pennsylvania?
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  Because people should know by now, no, we did
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  not attend either Paracon. Yeah. We did not.
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  I wish we attended Pennhurst. That one would
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  be big and fun looking. Just because you want
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  to see Pennhurst? Do those big Paracons excite
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  you? I've never been to a really big, big one
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  before. I don't know. And it's Pennhurst. Two
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  good combinations. That's true. I just feel like
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  there's the super small ones where it's like,
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  what's the point of paying for a table sitting
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  there all day? You can't even hear the speakers.
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  You're sitting there for no... Usually you have
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  to get a vendor booth and you pay for no one
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  to go buy stuff. outrageously priced yes for
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  no one to show up and then not being able to
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  see or hear any of the speakers that are going
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  on in the other room because then you can't with
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  our luck the one time it happened we leave our
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  table and that's when all the people come so
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  yep but so but so those are a separate issue
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  but then you have the big pair of cons which
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  i feel like is the opposite problem you pay all
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  this money to attend and there's always hoopla
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  and it's just kind of i don't know uh A lot of
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  people and a lot of crowds for what, like a photo
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  with a paranormal washed up celebrity that, you
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  know, everyone has the same photo on Facebook
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  of them with this washed up celebrity. And then
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  they're like, it was so cool. I met so -and -so
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  finally. And then it's like, they have no idea
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  who you are. And then my thing too, I would want
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  to explore Pennhurst, you know, and all these
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  people, they post all these photos. Oh, did you
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  get investigated? That's like all the comments.
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  Did you experience anything? Did you get investigated?
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  They're like, no, too many people. I don't like
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  the people. I mean, I love people, but I don't
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  like crowds. I feel like MadCon was the perfect
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  amount of people because you were so able to
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  go walk around Madison Seminary and so get away.
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  I like MadCon, yeah. We filmed a bunch of our
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  film Remote Contact, which I guess is a good
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  segue. We filmed a bunch of Remote Contact at
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  Madison Seminary where I did an isolated... like
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  this is a big convention and i still did an isolated
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  uh residence chamber uh remote contact vr experiment
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  we were able to film and we had a booth and we
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  had a lot of people come through and we got to
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  network with a lot of people so i feel like that's
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  the perfect size i don't know that to me the
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  big ones are just like i don't know i'm not really
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  too sure how much networking really gets done
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  when it's all just like celebrity culture type
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  of stuff and big crowds. But it's, I get what
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  you mean, but I mean, it's never been at one.
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  It would be fun. It's just a fun thing to do
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  in the paranormal community. That's all it is
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  pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not disagreeing.
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  It would be fun one day to go, but we don't need
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  to wait too long for our next. convention type
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  of thing that we are super pumped. This is super
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  good news. I teased good and super good. This
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  is super good. Very exciting announcement. We
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  mentioned Remote Contact. Guess what? Remote
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  Contact didn't win any film festivals. Because
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  I didn't submit to any film festivals. Ever since
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  we rebranded as Crossroads Curiosities, we started
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  making the least marketable films and projects
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  ever. Remote Contact? Is for a very niche audience.
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  Yes, yeah, it is. But the people that get it
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  really get it. And one of the people that really
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  got it. Or one of the groups who really got it,
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  we should say. Yes, one of the groups actually
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  is the Association of Paranormal Study. A big,
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  very highly respected group that puts on. the
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  annual Paranormal Research Symposium out of Gettysburg,
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  Pennsylvania. So, while we're bringing this up,
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  you may ask, well, well, well, well, our remote
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  contact experiment, our remote contact initiative
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  was selected to be a part of this year's Bigger
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  Than Ever, Better Than Ever. paranormal research
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  symposium what does that mean that means that
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  in august we the three of us will be traveling
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  to gettysburg pa to in the heart of historic
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  downtown i think yeah yeah it's a it's this very
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  historic spiritual area we will i'm really i'm
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  really selling this we no but here's the thing
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  we will be traveling to gettysburg to do a workshop
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  and presentation panel on our remote contact
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  project. We did a film, a 40 -minute film. We
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  still have a website landing page, and people
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  can submit. It's a form to take part in this
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  ongoing experiment and study. We did multiple
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  episodes on this before. It's essentially just
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  to catch anyone up. We're not going to go re
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  -explain remote contact here on this episode,
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  but for people who are like, jog my memory what
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  is that is that thing we do with uh swapping
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  the blindfold for a vr headset when doing that's
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  this method also during just general guided meditation
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  and we're essentially experimenting with using
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  vr and integrating vr in various aspects of paranormal
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  investigation anyways we did a 40 minute film
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  streaming on paraflix now we are taking And that
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  film was literally just on the first three experiments
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  we did. Like we came up with this idea, did three
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  experiments, put it into a film and we're like,
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  let's just rush this out. Let's get people watching
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  it and then participating in the ongoing study.
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  Now, after I think it's on like the one year
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  anniversary or something like that. So a year
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  later, we're going to Gettysburg and we're going
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  to be doing this panel presenting what we've
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  been doing with remote contact. And then. After
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  an entire weekend of all these incredible, thoughtful,
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  insightful minds in the paranormal field coming
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  together for this symposium, Remote Contact,
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  our work, is going to be published in a journal.
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  So that's cool. Do you have anything to add before
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  we go deeper into like the symposium and like
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  what we can expect? Because this is I don't think
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  I'm selling how exciting of news. No, you're
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  just excited. Yeah, you're selling how exciting
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  it is because it is. I am. Yeah, it is pretty
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  exciting. I mean, it's not every day that like
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  your work is recognized by a panel of your peers
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  who are. all into the research aspect of the
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  paranormal because there's you know the one side
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  of the paranormal that's you know making the
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  tv shows making like doing that side and then
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  you have the other side where it's the paranormal
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  research and diving deeper and they cross lines
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  but there's there it's definitely one side or
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  the other sometimes and to be able to be have
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  our work recognized as being a research thinking
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  thing that maybe people haven't thought of before
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  is really cool you know you know brie i think
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  i think that is why stuff like this isn't marketable
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  because per the name we are literally at the
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  crossroads of both side we're like right in the
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  middle we have yeah the tv side production and
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  then we're also doing like research stuff people
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  want People want, you know, when they see like
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  a film or something, if they don't really know
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  too much about paranormal research, they just
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  kind of want like the typical 5X structure type
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  of stuff, which we have never and will never
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  do, unfortunately. Well, not unfortunately, but
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  for the masses. Yeah. But I don't know. To me,
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  the prospect of... we have remote contact didn't
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  submit it to any film festival there's no film
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  festivals to submit that to and i know i can
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  be stubborn and whatever and i'm still looking
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  for beware the haunted bathtubs festivals okay
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  so i get it but but i love that one you have
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  to acknowledge remote there's zero film festivals
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  that currently exist that you can submit it to
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  so but to me anyone can make a film these days
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  and get into a film festival there's a gazillion
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  free festivals everyone has a camera in their
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  pocket on their you can literally use your phone
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  yeah literally i think anyone can make a film
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  that gets accepted into a film festival it's
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  actually not that hard to get into film festivals
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  um to me it's a much bigger deal in the paranormal
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  to have one of the most well -respected groups
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  and conferences this paranormal research symposium
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  publishing your work in a journal that's unheard
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  of who gets their paranormal research published
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  in a journal that's only for like the doctors
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  and and you know sciencey science academics out
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  there yeah never never have i ever thought any
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  of mine or our work would be published in a journal
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  for any reason like that's that doesn't even
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  seem within like a realm of what we do but then
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  it's like oh yeah i guess that is the thing and
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  that we are doing that so yeah it's a weird thought
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  but i love it yeah the way this works is we have
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  to distill all of the work the what we're doing
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  we have to figure out how to like really articulately
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  describe what remote contact is, you know, cause
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  I can't imagine we'll just play the whole movie
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  and then just be like, all right, cool. Bye.
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  So we're going all the way there. We have to
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  adapt it to a panel workshop type of speech type
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  of thing. And then afterwards we have to, after
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  we present and we network and we talk with people
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  all weekend, then we have a few months to submit
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  a written version of it. That will then be published
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  alongside all the others in this big journal
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  that gets published. So you guys will be obviously
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  helping on this homework. It's been a while since
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  I've had homework to write an essay. Yeah, writing
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  an essay? I haven't done that in a hot minute.
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  Yeah. I still do them, sadly. Yeah, you're a
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  nerd. You're still in school, you nerd. So let's
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  go a little deeper into this symposium because
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  they are very different than a typical convention.
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  I think one of the reasons I wanted to talk a
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  little bit at the top about big conventions is
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  because that's what people think of when they
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  hear you're going to a convention. This is not.
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  This is a symposium. And as they say on their
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  website, a symposium is a formal academic event.
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  This is a formal event. And it prioritizes the
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  sharing of research, knowledge and ideas through
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  structured presentations, workshops and panels.
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  We will be leading one on remote contact. And
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  the whole point is to create an environment in
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  historic Gettysburg to foster intellectual exploration.
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  collaboration it's very collaboration and networking
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  focus there's a vip networking dinner and ghost
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  tour that uh we will be attending the night before
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  as well uh because i guess we're vips um wait
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  we are we are counted as vips yeah yeah yeah
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  We're panelists, Angela. Well, I don't know.
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  That doesn't necessarily mean VIPs. Well, you
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  know what else? The only thing I kind of don't...
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  Okay, so I agree, but also when it comes to us,
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  I don't know that I agree. It says at some point,
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  I'm just reading literally off their website,
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  but at some point, I remember they used the term,
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  I don't have a screenshot of this offhand, but
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  they said we bring together panelists featuring
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  some of the... uh biggest leaders in the paranormal
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  and i'm like we're not leaders we're not paranormal
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  research leaders but yeah so i disagree that
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  we're leaders but i if you are a panelist leading
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  a workshop at an event like this and getting
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  your work published in their journal you are
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  a vip cool but i love how that like another thing
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  too i appreciate that The paranormal at large
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  here is nothing like the occult. Because the
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  thing I can't stand about the occult people is,
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  like, the amount of gatekeeping and shit that
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  goes on. Oh, yeah. I love the occult, but yes.
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  This event is very, like, we're not. following
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  like the status quo we're gonna break down all
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  barriers of entry that's what i'm getting from
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  it at least it's like i appreciate that there's
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  no gatekeeping of knowledge and like i i've always
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  thought that like look look at the three of us
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  this podcast we're buffoons we yeah we are not
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  these articulate we're not articulate grandmaster
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  um you know condescending narcissistic pricks
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  that sit on their little ego tower and whatever
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  and think they know everything right we always
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  say there's no experts in the field uh all we
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  are far from experts no there's no such thing
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  actually yeah um all we are to our credit we're
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  genuine we're real we're relatable and we have
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  genuine real and relatable curiosity i think
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  that curiosity is why we're able to land on these
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  ideas and think about things long term and have
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  these long form uh conversations about stuff
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  that that kind of harnesses um and kind of feels
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  and is is is uh generating a space where big
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  ideas can happen and i i appreciate that people
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  like us who just are constantly theorizing and
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  being curious and then saying we're stumbling
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  on this big idea i don't think anyone's done
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  it before we speak through the film language
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  so we put a put out a film about it um and now
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  we're getting published in a journal i think
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  that's very cool that you don't need to be some
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  high -strung like academic egomaniac person you
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  know to get get to get approved and be uh published
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  at events anymore get this some people spend
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  years building their credibility and their reputation
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  we uh one year one one year and then one year
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  we're in a journal we're in a journal published
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  yes which i mean we're not saying we're like
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  It only took us a year. We're so great. No. No.
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  It's definitely crazy to think of where we were
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  a year ago. Even today. Yeah. To now be in this,
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  have this opportunity. Like, this isn't something
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  that I would have ever thought of. us having
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  an opportunity like this a year ago like this
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  wasn't even on my radar yeah so do you think
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  events because like again this is there are no
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  vendors at this event there are no celebrities
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  at this event there is a vip ghost tour the night
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  before but there's no like Ghost hunting. We're
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  in Gettysburg. We're going to tag everyone on
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  this premium whatever, spend $1 ,000 to ghost
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  hunt with a celebrity type of thing. It's all
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  a structured, collaborative, network -heavy,
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  research -heavy, as academic as possible event.
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  I mean, I think in just my opinion that that's
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  more exciting to be a part of. uh then something
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  like i mean no shade again but yeah something
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  like the big penhurst con or something i don't
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  know i did you like they're totally different
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  vibes yeah yeah no hate on either but this is
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  just more exciting to me because it actually
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  had to be approved and there was like a whole
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  jury that had that selected they're very picky
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  these are great people to network with and really
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  excited to see everyone that's gonna be there
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  and present and um yeah it's gonna be a different
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  experience for us so it's i'm just excited because
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  it's gonna be a bunch of like deep thinkers yeah
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  about the paranormal and whatever we're gonna
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  be talking about it i have the fear we're gonna
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  get down there and um everyone who's there like
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  you know, heavy into paranormal research and
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  they're going to use big words and I'm going
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  to be like, Oh no, I don't know anything you're
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  talking about. They're going to ask me about
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  a specific theory. I'm going to be like, yeah.
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  i totally know what you're talking about i feel
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  like you need to explain further because i don't
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  know yeah it's like i'm here for vr stuff i mean
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  yeah which is an awesome concept cool research
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  but like also at the same time i don't know what
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  else is out there and i feel like i'm gonna be
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  the person who's like a fish out of water but
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  i don't know speaking of fish out of water look
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  at the flip side you show up And then you say,
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  oh, yeah, I just did this solo in this residual
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  energy containment vessel. And they're going
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  to be like, what the hell is this bitch talking
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  about? Residual energy containment vessel. Yeah.
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  Also, you said that this isn't a formal event.
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  Like, how formal is this? How formal? Like, suit
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  and tie formal? No. Or, like, business casual
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  formal? No, no, no. Or, like, what? The dress
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  code. on the site literally says like family
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  friendly attire so it's formal yeah formal in
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  terms of structure and like it's serious research
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  like you can't just show up and be like i was
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  like do i need to go shopping for like actual
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  formal attire presenting and stuff because like
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  what kind of event is this Yeah. I'm glad you
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  had the same thought as I did. Because Ben also
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  said that. In my brain, I'm like, formal. How
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  formal? How? how formal like exactly what i was
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  thinking i was like do i need to go shopping
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  again and for something i probably will only
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  wear like once a year no no formal in terms of
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  like tone and structure because like yeah yeah
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  yeah i'm glad they don't want people thinking
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  this is just like you show up and just wander
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  around type of thing yeah you can't just wander
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  in and out I imagine, of panels. Like, they want
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  people involved. They should make it a black
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  tie event. I could finally wear my prom dress
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  again. They should make it a Civil War event.
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  If you wear anything. Everyone comes in period
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  piece clothing and do a full reenactment. What
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  if it's, like, super strict? Because we're in
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  Gettysburg. To have it, like, Civil War era.
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  Like, everything you bring or wear has to fit
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  within that period, right? And then we just come
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  in. The only thing that's not Civil War era are
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  these ridiculous VR goggles. So, VR anybody?
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  Yeah. I feel this makes me want to go to a haunted
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  battlefield or something to do the 360 for this
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  VR stuff. Yeah, we're definitely going to have
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  to take the opportunity while we're down there
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  to get some sort of 360 footage capture. One
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  of the battlefields down there. Yeah. Oh, that's
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  the only thing I remember of Gettysburg. Cause
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  I've been there as a kid, like one other time
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  or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And I only remember
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  like the big giant battlefield fields and like
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  the green fields and just knowing that there's
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  thousands of people who died in those fields.
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  I don't remember the actual town. I just remember
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  the actual battlefields. It's really cool. And
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  all the statues they have of people. It's a cool,
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  cool place. I've always wanted to go to Gettysburg.
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  I remember one time in the MSU Paranormal Club,
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  we were like sitting in a big circle and we all
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  like introduced ourselves. And then like the
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  famous place we'd want to investigate most. And
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  I said Gettysburg. And then someone said, why
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  is this a field? And then everyone just kind
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  of grumbled. They're like, yeah, it's just. Nothing
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  cool about Gettysburg. It's just a field. I hated
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  everyone in that room. Except for Brew. Brew
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  is pretty cool. That's so funny because the only
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  thing that has a profound impact in my memory
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  of Gettysburg was the fields. That's hilarious.
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  Yeah, they're not just a field. I bet you can
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  feel the history. extreme major important history
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  where many people have died it's very it's not
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  just a field it's also home to the annual uh
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  paranormal research symposium that in and of
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  itself is significant it is it's really cool
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  all right any final thoughts i just wanted to
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  announce this and kind of we're recording this
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  really Late, usually we backlog these episodes,
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  but I wanted to announce this on the pod because
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  it's cool. Yeah. We'll obviously be covering
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  it way more in depth, you know, as we get closer
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  and see who all is going to be there. And obviously
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  during and after the event, we'll provide coverage.
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  So any initial, like, final thoughts? Like, what's
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  your excitement level? Because this is pretty
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  cool. My excitement level is pretty high. pretty
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