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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-2 · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Yes, we got Greg Bell coming up at seven oh five,
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Speaker 1: Gene Steretaur at eight, Everitt Fits You at eight thirty,
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Speaker 1: Rick new Isiol at nine o'clock, all sorts of guests,
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Speaker 1: plus we got a few things that we got to
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Speaker 1: break down with the old judge, and we're also going
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Speaker 1: to introduce holiday analytics later on in the program as well.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday's show dominated by Seahawks conversation with our experts, Greg
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Speaker 1: Hugh and Coach, but perhaps the mediast conversation that was
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Speaker 1: occurring in the sports world was about Lane Kiffen and
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Speaker 1: whether or not Lane Kiffin did his did ole Miss
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Speaker 1: a disservice and did not handle things the right way
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Speaker 1: and leaving ole Miss to go to LSU. I'm never
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Speaker 1: going to begrudge somebody for taking a better position, but
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Speaker 1: I do think Bucky there is a right way and
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Speaker 1: a wrong way to do things. And to me, I mean,
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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin just has always been sort of a petulant child.
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Speaker 2: That's how he's always come across to me.
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Speaker 1: Always been the guy that his dad was the coach
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Speaker 1: and so he had access to the field and he'd
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Speaker 1: go the next day and brag about all all the
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Speaker 1: kids at the school about how you know, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: got a football for Christmas? I got a football song
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Speaker 1: by Doug Williams or whoever. That's who we always and
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever kind of changed being that person.
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Speaker 1: It's had a lot of opportunities and a lot of
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Speaker 1: great programs to show that he can handle maturity, the
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Speaker 1: maturity of you know, running the USC program, running the
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Speaker 1: Tennessee those are fantastic football programs, I need to tell you.
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Speaker 1: And he crashed and burned and ended up being vilified
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Speaker 1: in both of those situations before he got to Old
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Speaker 1: Miss where he was actually loved and embraced and everybody
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Speaker 1: wanted to keep him, and it looked like he had grown.
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Speaker 1: And I think that he has in a lot of areas.
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Speaker 1: And yet this reminds me of that same Lane Kiffin
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Speaker 1: petulant child aspect of it. If you want to take
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Speaker 1: a better job, one that you think is going to
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Speaker 1: bring you more life enrichment, even though it's not more money. Uh,
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Speaker 1: more life enrichment, Okay, you can do that, but do
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Speaker 1: you have to burn everything down behind you if you
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Speaker 1: don't get your way, and I mean your entire way,
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Speaker 1: that entire dog and pony show about I need to
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Speaker 1: meet with this group and they need to meet with
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Speaker 1: that group. Was all about him trying to get the
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Speaker 1: LSU job and getting to finish what he started at
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Speaker 1: ole Miss and being able to coach in the playoff.
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Speaker 1: It was all about his own personal glory and if
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Speaker 1: it wasn't, then why did he put in his contract
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Speaker 1: at LSU. If ole Miss wins the national championship, I
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Speaker 1: get a bonus, and it's because ole Miss won't recognize
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Speaker 1: him as the guy that led them to the national
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Speaker 1: championship if in fact they win it with an interim
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Speaker 1: head coach, just like Michigan acknowledgist Steve Fisher as the
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Speaker 1: guy that led them to the national championship in college
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Speaker 1: basketball years ago when he was in the same city.
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Speaker 1: So he wants on paper it to be acknowledged that
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Speaker 1: he was the head coach of a team that may
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Speaker 1: have won, may go on to win the national championship.
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Speaker 1: To me, it just comes off really small, very petulant.
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Speaker 1: I think he's still as one of the most immature
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Speaker 1: guys at one of the highest levels in college football
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Speaker 1: out there, and there was just a better.
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Speaker 2: Way to do this, without a doubt, a better way
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Speaker 2: to do it.
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Speaker 3: And I mean it's there's a complicated thing going on
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Speaker 3: right with just how the whole kind of unruly aspect
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Speaker 3: of people being able to move and switch teams, coaches,
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Speaker 3: players alike. And yet I wish there was a way
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Speaker 3: that it was wrangled in better, but there isn't at
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Speaker 3: this point in time. And yet, when it comes to coaches,
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Speaker 3: you're the one that needs to set the standard of
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Speaker 3: how where loyalty is going to be. If if there's
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Speaker 3: going to be any loyalty, you're going to be the
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Speaker 3: ones that are going to set the set the standard
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Speaker 3: for that. And yet we don't see a whole heck
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Speaker 3: of a lot of them. I mean, the stagnity or
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Speaker 3: what Signetti at Indiana, he seems like he's the type
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Speaker 3: that's like, no, this is my spot, this is where
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Speaker 3: I'm meant to be. And I have a feeling that
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Speaker 3: he's going to get some folks that want to come
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Speaker 3: to Indiana and they're gonna want to stay there for
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Speaker 3: as long as they can until they can possibly move on.
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Speaker 3: There's just a I mean, they're just naturally in the world.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm with you, I'm not going to ever
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Speaker 3: begrudge anybody for going out and finding something, or if
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Speaker 3: they have the opportunity to do something bigger or better,
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Speaker 3: or they just feel like it and riches their life better.
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Speaker 3: If I I like my job, I like working with
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Speaker 3: you guys. If somebody offered me way more money to
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Speaker 3: do something that I didn't have to wake up at
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Speaker 3: four o'clock in the morning.
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Speaker 2: For, yeah, I would probably I would.
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Speaker 3: Probably look into it. I most certainly would look into it.
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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't just text you guys one day and
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Speaker 3: say sorry, folks, come out and.
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Speaker 2: Leave you hanging right. There's a proper way to do it.
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Speaker 3: I'd say, hey, I got this opportunity, rich and this
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Speaker 3: is what I'm thinking about doing, and so here it is.
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Speaker 2: And I would probably give them an.
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Speaker 3: Opportunity to say, hey, we'd like to match that right
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Speaker 3: and stick around. So there's a way to do it.
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Speaker 3: There's most certainly a wrong way to do it. And
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Speaker 3: that's the way that Lang Kiffin has done it. It
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Speaker 3: seems like his whole career because I think that he
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Speaker 3: does do that. When I first took this job, I
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Speaker 3: was coaching kids in baseball. Not this is a way
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Speaker 3: different comparison because we're talking about I was coaching seventeen
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Speaker 3: eighteen year old boys, and I wasn't going to coach
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Speaker 3: a different team of seventeen eighteen year old boys. I
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Speaker 3: came to take this job, but one for one year
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Speaker 3: or about for one season. When I took this job,
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Speaker 3: I didn't quit on the team of young men that
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Speaker 3: I was coaching. I was coaching until nine ten eleven
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Speaker 3: o'clock at night and hadn't watched any sports and got
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Speaker 3: to go home and do my homework for this show
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Speaker 3: until one or two o'clock in the morning. For about
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Speaker 3: six eight months, I did this show on like two
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Speaker 3: hours of sleep. But it was because I couldn't. There's
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Speaker 3: no way I could look into the eyes of the
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Speaker 3: kids that I made a commitment to that I asked
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Speaker 3: them to make a commitment to me and say, sorry, folks,
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Speaker 3: this is the direct that I want to go. This
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Speaker 3: is a better opportunity for me and my family. You
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Speaker 3: get screwed because of it, and I just couldn't do it.
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Speaker 3: And yet that's exactly what he did. And if if
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Speaker 3: LSU wasn't about letting him, you know, see through to
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Speaker 3: the finish line what he had committed to for this
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Speaker 3: season at least, then why are you wanting to go there?
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Speaker 3: And why do you want a guy that's okay with
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Speaker 3: leaving his team in the lurch like that? To me,
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Speaker 3: it's and he's so many wrongs.
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Speaker 1: He would argue that, hey, I wanted to coach them
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. But just to take your
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Speaker 1: analogy further, if you did take say another radio job
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Speaker 1: or something in our the family of radio, when you
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Speaker 1: were under contract here, there's no way that anyone's going
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Speaker 1: to let you go to a rival and while you're
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Speaker 1: still here, right, and you're trying, and all of your
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Speaker 1: focus is on the making the other program better than
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Speaker 1: the one that he's currently at, right, I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: insane for the people that are inviting the Drogian horse in.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Well, and I you know a lot of people have
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Speaker 5: been saying, well, if you want to blame someone, blame
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Speaker 5: the college calendar. Well, the college calendar is absolutely screwed up.
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Speaker 5: It is beyond ridiculous. The fact that signing day is tomorrow,
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Speaker 5: and part of the reason that Lane had to leave
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Speaker 5: now is so that he could start recruiting there. It
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Speaker 5: like all of that is is really screwed up. But
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Speaker 5: it's more about the fact that the way he yeah,
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Speaker 5: the way he did it, the way he was like, well,
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Speaker 5: but this is what I want, and if I'm not
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Speaker 5: gonna get it, then I'm going to take all of
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Speaker 5: my assistant coaches with me, and assistant coaches, if you
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Speaker 5: don't get on the plane with me, then you don't
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Speaker 5: have a job later. As opposed to saying, you know what,
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Speaker 5: if I'm really respectful of this program that i spent
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Speaker 5: six years trying to improve, and I'm really respectful of
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Speaker 5: these kids that I've spent all this time coaching and
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Speaker 5: that have given me all that time, I'd say, you
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Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna go when the season's over, I'm
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Speaker 5: going to talk to the assistant coaches and we're going
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Speaker 5: to figure it out.
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Speaker 2: Thousand. What's so hard about that?
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Speaker 6: Nothing?
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Speaker 7: And instead, you're not gonna let me coach o mistress,
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Speaker 7: because I'm going to lsu who hate Well, then I'm
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Speaker 7: going to rally up all the coaches and you're not
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Speaker 7: gonna have anybody coach these kids, and you're gonna be embarrassed.
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Speaker 1: Why would you want to embarrass the kids when you've
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Speaker 1: been saying the whole time it's about these kids. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just can't stomach hypocrisy. No, I just can't stomach hypocrisy.
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Speaker 1: And you know you threw out something yesterday about you know,
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Speaker 1: you can't throw stones because if if you've been in
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Speaker 1: that position before, you know, maybe you would take the job. Well,
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Speaker 1: I can throw stones because I've been in that position before.
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Speaker 1: I have been offered more money and to take a
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Speaker 1: better job with a better company, but it was going
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Speaker 1: to leave so much damage to the people that I
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Speaker 1: cared about that I didn't take it, and I lost it,
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Speaker 1: and they wouldn't wait for me, and so I lost it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying what I did was right, because
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Speaker 1: it really didn't turn out well for me. Maybe, so
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Speaker 1: maybe what I did was wrong, maybe it was stupid.
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Speaker 1: But if the if the criteria is you can't criticize
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Speaker 1: Lane Lane Kiffin unless you yourself have passed up more
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Speaker 1: money to do the right noble thing.
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Speaker 2: Why qualified for that?
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Speaker 1: I can tell you that much right now. So I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna throw my stones because my house has not made
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Speaker 1: of glass on this particular topic.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And also, that's not why people are throwing stones.
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Speaker 5: It's about all the other crap that he did. You know,
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Speaker 5: nobody's saying like, well, how dare you take that job?
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Speaker 5: No one's saying that it's about the way you did it. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and I think we could all sit there and say
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Speaker 5: none of us would do it the way he did it,
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Speaker 5: So we should all be able to throw stones at.
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Speaker 1: Him if there is so, If this is, if this
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Speaker 1: is a line that can be crossed now that you
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Speaker 1: I joked with coach when you left the Packers, did
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Speaker 1: you leave it with playoff games still on the board?
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Speaker 1: And I don't think they qualified for the playoffs if
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Speaker 1: I remember his last year with Green Bay. But that's
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Speaker 1: what he did. We'd never see that in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: even Bill Parcells coached all the way to the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl when everybody knows that he was leaving afterwards and
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Speaker 1: it ended up being a dis traction, I think, to
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Speaker 1: the team. But he coached it all the way through.
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Speaker 1: So if because of the calendar and it is supposed
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Speaker 1: to change in the future, that that just frees you
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Speaker 1: of any responsibility to what you currently have at your
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Speaker 1: fingertips at your current job, then where is the one
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Speaker 1: who is there not a line anymore? We'll discuss that
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Speaker 8: thirty outside of the forty.
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Speaker 1: And Gillan slows him down for a second. He breaks
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Speaker 1: Westwood went on the call Monday Night Football. Last night,
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Speaker 1: New England Patriots went over the New York Giants snow
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Speaker 1: surprise there thirty three to fifteen in a mostly unwatchable game.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I didn't watch it. So
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Speaker 1: And I know that these days we're guaranteeing that we
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Speaker 1: are human. But I will tell you this little known
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Speaker 1: three of us is not a human. I'll leave that
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Speaker 4: For ye.
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Speaker 1: Such a bold statement.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I was speaking so sorry. We didn't even
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Speaker 2: have a meeting about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Mike wasn't on your phone.
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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, sir.
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Speaker 1: There's some things happening in your business that you're not
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Speaker 1: aware of. Seahawks take on the Falcons on this Sunday.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Greg Bell about that in the moment.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully we're gonna have.
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Speaker 1: Some time talk about that for the end of the
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Speaker 1: show today, because I got some things to say. But
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Speaker 3: and but a girl tree.
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Speaker 9: Girl tree. My daughter got there.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, daughter five.
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Speaker 9: We got a tree that she was able to stand
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Speaker 9: and put the star on topa but she still needed
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Speaker 9: a ladder to do it. Yeah, because she was home
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Speaker 9: from Connecticut Ghost Part Academy for Thanksgiving. We when got
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Speaker 9: the tree on Friday.
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Speaker 2: That's a look at that family.
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Speaker 1: Look at that, look at that everybody, everybody on the
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Speaker 1: show has the tree up. And look, I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: you should have done it as early as what I did,
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Speaker 1: but I think maybe I influenced you to ball put
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Speaker 1: it up a little earlier.
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Speaker 9: Yeah before early check.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Saint Patrick's Day day, after Saint Patti's days.
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Speaker 2: That's when you take it down. Oh yeah, oh no, no.
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Speaker 1: All right, well let's get right into it. As the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks coming off another nice impressive win. Certainly we discussed
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Speaker 1: a lot of things yesterday Seahawks related, but there is
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Speaker 1: a lot more left on the plate here that we
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Speaker 1: can now devour on this Tuesday, And this might be
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Speaker 1: the last week. I know, we don't want to jump
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Speaker 1: the gun and start breaking down the Falcons too much
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Speaker 1: just yet, but this might be the last of the
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Speaker 1: you have to win, not have to, but you should
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Speaker 1: win this game pretty easily. Weeks that the Seahawks are
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Speaker 1: going to have, because the schedule does get tougher after
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Speaker 1: the Falcons on Sunday, it does.
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Speaker 9: They have one of the tougher by winning percentage tougher
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Speaker 9: remaining schedules among all the playoff contending teams in the NFC,
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Speaker 9: and I mean Atlanta, they've lost their quarterback, Michael Pennox
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Speaker 9: Junior is injured. As soon as I happens your seasons
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Speaker 9: going south, that's almost always the case, and that you
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Speaker 9: can start there in the Seahawks again, this is now.
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Speaker 9: Cam Ward is a rookie quarterback with a terrible offensive
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Speaker 9: line for Tennessee.
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Speaker 10: Then an undrafted rookie.
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Speaker 9: From four years out of New Hampshire making his first
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Speaker 9: NFL start in Max Brosmer the other day, and now
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Speaker 9: the backup quarterback. I know it's cousins, and I know
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Speaker 9: it's there's some veterans that the Falcons have behind Penix,
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Speaker 9: but it's not in their plans. But Atlanta does have
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Speaker 9: a defense in a pass rush, and they have really
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Speaker 9: remodeled their pass rush in the last couple of years.
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Speaker 9: That has been the one thing that has hurt them
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Speaker 9: the most, and they've gotten much better getting to the quarterback.
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Speaker 9: And we've seen what happens to teams that get.
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Speaker 10: To Sam Darnold, and that remains.
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Speaker 9: The biggest problem for Seattle, no matter who their playing
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Speaker 9: and no matter who's the quarterback. The opposite of Donald
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Speaker 9: is him holding onto the ball. But yet, point Chuck,
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Speaker 9: they should win this game to be ten and three,
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Speaker 9: and they could be ten and three, and we still.
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Speaker 10: Don't know how good they are because they.
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Speaker 9: Haven't beaten the Rams and the forty nine ers. And
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Speaker 9: I know I'm signing a broken record in a little
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Speaker 9: bit of a rain cloud, but that's Them's the facts.
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Speaker 9: They're trying to win the NFC West and the two
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Speaker 9: teams they have to win have to beat to win
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Speaker 9: the West, they haven't beaten yet. But now they get
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Speaker 9: them both and they're gonna have to beat them both
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Speaker 9: over the last six weeks. They've got the Rams after
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Speaker 9: so it goes Atlanta, then they come home from back
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Speaker 9: to back home games in five days between the Colts,
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Speaker 9: and then that rematch with the Rams on December eighteenth,
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Speaker 9: And it's easy to say, well, that'll be for the
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Speaker 9: division title, nah, because San Francisco is nine and four.
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Speaker 9: They're on there by this week. They at the latest
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Speaker 9: payer you could possibly have if they keep winning, that's
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Speaker 9: the game for the title in the final week of
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Speaker 9: the season, Week eighteen, and Santa Clara. Of course, the
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Speaker 9: Seahawks have to keep winning too, So yeah, Atlanta, the
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Speaker 9: Colts and Rams at home, and all of suddenly that
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Speaker 9: Week seventeen game at Carolina, that's a trick. We saw
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Speaker 9: what the Panthers just did in Charlotte to the Rams.
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Speaker 9: Suddenly Carolina is seven and six and they may be
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Speaker 9: contending for a playoffs spot on that Week seventeen game
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Speaker 9: before the Seahawks go to Santa.
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Speaker 3: Clara, Gee, the I mean, this season is different where
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Speaker 3: no one has really just kind of taken it, or
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Speaker 3: I guess different teams have taken the moniker of the
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Speaker 3: best team in the NFL, or they look like it
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Speaker 3: inevitably like the Rams this week, then they end up
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Speaker 3: getting beat and all of a sudden they're knocked off
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Speaker 3: their pedestal. I mean, the Seahawks have been in that
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Speaker 3: conversation a couple of different times. The Eagles were in
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Speaker 3: that conversation, and so it's really a lot of teams
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Speaker 3: that are kind of you know, four games over five
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Speaker 3: hundred and yet I'm guessing that this team feels like
17:52
Speaker 3: they're the best team in the NFL. I mean, I
17:55
Speaker 3: think that it's there still is work to be done,
17:57
Speaker 3: but they had kind of controlled their own destiny go
17:59
Speaker 3: out there and take their business, play the way that
18:01
Speaker 3: you've shown you're capable, and let the chips fall where
18:03
Speaker 3: they may once you get into the dance. But would
18:06
Speaker 3: you say that do you think that right now that
18:08
Speaker 3: the Seahawks think they're the best team in the NFL.
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Speaker 9: They know they statistically they're second to third, you know
18:16
Speaker 9: most of the metrics. But they know they have perhaps
18:19
Speaker 9: the best defense in the NFL. And if you have that,
18:22
Speaker 9: you can win anywhere. Defense travels, defense plays through any
18:25
Speaker 9: whether you've heard all the cliches about defense, that's how
18:28
Speaker 9: Mike McDonald has built his team, and that is the
18:31
Speaker 9: obviate's strength here. So they they feel like they have
18:35
Speaker 9: the best defense, They feel like they have the best
18:37
Speaker 9: defensive line, they feel like they have the best secondary,
18:40
Speaker 9: which still isn't healthy yet. We don't know if Julian
18:42
Speaker 9: Love is going to come back to practice like he's
18:44
Speaker 9: eligible two this week. He was eligible to last week
18:46
Speaker 9: and his hamstring wasn't ready. And then they have Ernest
18:49
Speaker 9: Jones at linebacker and you saw what he just did
18:52
Speaker 9: in the game against Minnesota. Let's look at the teams
18:56
Speaker 9: in the NFC and you tell me, can the Seahawks
18:58
Speaker 9: claim that they are the best or not one of
19:01
Speaker 9: the best. The Bears, Yeah, they're nine and three. They're
19:03
Speaker 9: the number one seed right now, and not heart of hearts.
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Speaker 9: I know Caleb Williams having a great season. Ben Johnson
19:09
Speaker 9: has transformed that offense and gotten Williams.
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Speaker 10: To not turn the ball over and they're running the
19:14
Speaker 10: ball like.
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Speaker 9: Anybody best in the.
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Speaker 10: League right now.
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Speaker 9: But if you really cornered somebody in the Seahawks foccer
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Speaker 9: room saying, if you had to go to Chicago with
19:24
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl on the line for the NFC title,
19:25
Speaker 9: how would you feel about that? They'd say, we'll take that.
19:29
Speaker 9: The Rams are, like Bucky just said, they were to
19:34
Speaker 9: catch me out until they went to Charlotte the Eagles.
19:38
Speaker 9: You would think the way the Eagles looked against the
19:40
Speaker 9: Bears and the way the fans in Philadelphia were treating
19:42
Speaker 9: them that they're like four and eight, they're eight and four,
19:45
Speaker 9: but they're falling. And then the Buccaneers that the Seahawks field,
19:48
Speaker 9: they absolutely gave away the game two. They're the four
19:52
Speaker 9: seed right now, and in fact, the Seahawks would play
19:54
Speaker 9: the Buccaneers if they don't win the division. The way
19:55
Speaker 9: that the current standings are five verses four. Then it's
19:59
Speaker 9: the Packers and the forty nine ers. So on those
20:02
Speaker 9: lists they're all flawed in some ways. But yeah, to
20:07
Speaker 9: answer Bucky's question, I think they have a legitimate say
20:10
Speaker 9: of we can do this because of that defense, the
20:13
Speaker 9: way the defense plays, and if it keeps playing the
20:15
Speaker 9: way it is, they can withstand a lot. I don't
20:17
Speaker 9: know against the Rams and the forty nine ers if
20:19
Speaker 9: they can withstand Donald turning the ball over, but they
20:21
Speaker 9: can withstand alive.
20:22
Speaker 1: Our CX inside of Greg Bell is with us. You
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Speaker 1: course the News Tribune dot com for complete Seahawks coverage
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Speaker 1: every single day. This game was lopsided, but it was
20:35
Speaker 1: also the game where Sam Donald, without question, faced the
20:39
Speaker 1: most pass rush pressure of this entire season. So what's
20:44
Speaker 1: the latest on Jalen Sundell And despite Mike McDonald's endorsement
20:48
Speaker 1: of Anthony Bradford's play, is he at risk at right
20:52
Speaker 1: guard of finally being removed from that starting spot.
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Speaker 9: Well, it's interesting because Sundell, if you're remember, during training camp,
21:01
Speaker 9: was one of the three competitors for the right guard job.
21:06
Speaker 9: It was Christian Haines, who actually started training camp as
21:09
Speaker 9: the starter, and then it was Anthony Bradford and they
21:11
Speaker 9: had Sundell then directed looking for twenty twenty four who
21:14
Speaker 9: did some guard work in practices last year. Sundell ended
21:18
Speaker 9: up proving to be so good at center that he
21:20
Speaker 9: beat out Oli with Timmy and took that job. Well,
21:22
Speaker 9: now he's been on ir olal with Timmy is at center,
21:25
Speaker 9: and if you take McDonald as his word, he really
21:29
Speaker 9: likes how ola Timmy's played in the two games three
21:32
Speaker 9: games since Sundell went out with a knee injury, which
21:36
Speaker 9: makes the question, now do you keep some ol with
21:39
Speaker 9: Timmy where he's been good. Sundell is eligible to come
21:43
Speaker 9: off of injured reserve this time next week. The fourth
21:47
Speaker 9: consecutive game he'll miss is the Atlanta game this weekend,
21:50
Speaker 9: and I asked yesterday McDonald of Sundell how he's progressing
21:54
Speaker 9: toward potentially practicing next week. He says he's doing really well.
21:58
Speaker 9: And I said, is he going to come back to
21:59
Speaker 9: be a guard or a center? And he said, we're
22:02
Speaker 9: still working through what the lineup is going to look
22:04
Speaker 9: like when he comes back, which is a really telling
22:06
Speaker 9: statement to me. I think they're thinking about putting him
22:09
Speaker 9: at guards and having Sundell play right guard next to
22:13
Speaker 9: Ovala Timmy to not disturb what Olala Timmy's done in
22:17
Speaker 9: the center of the offensive line. So competition on the
22:20
Speaker 9: horizon perhaps for Anthony Bradford. Now, as you said yesterday,
22:25
Speaker 9: McDonald said that he thought Bradford played a pretty good game.
22:28
Speaker 9: He said there were some good plays and some not
22:31
Speaker 9: some good plays. But when he was asked about fans
22:34
Speaker 9: especially criticizing Bradford for standing around look like he's waiting
22:37
Speaker 9: on a bus and some pass protection snaps, he said,
22:41
Speaker 9: I think he's played pretty well, So we'll see. But
22:45
Speaker 9: there is going to be competition somewhere because Sondell's not
22:48
Speaker 9: going to come back, and said he's either going to
22:50
Speaker 9: play center, he's going to play guard. At what I
22:54
Speaker 9: saw in training camp, Guys, I think the best line
22:57
Speaker 9: right now, I think Sandell's a better center than old tim.
23:00
Speaker 9: But if they're good with Olowid Timmme att center, I
23:02
Speaker 9: think their best line would be olwod Simme at center
23:05
Speaker 9: and Sindela right guard.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't disagree with that in the slightest Redford is
23:11
Speaker 3: just not He does not play well. I don't want
23:14
Speaker 3: to call the dude out, but it just is not
23:15
Speaker 3: very good. Another guy that didn't have a good game
23:19
Speaker 3: but is great as Jackson Smith and Jig. But I mean,
23:23
Speaker 3: any concern about the rest of the NFL, especially the NFC,
23:27
Speaker 3: the big games that they're going to have coming up
23:28
Speaker 3: down the stretch here that they found a game plan.
23:31
Speaker 3: The way in which the Vikings did stuff was different,
23:35
Speaker 3: but it still is a four and eight team. Know
23:37
Speaker 3: you you end up scoring twenty six points, so it
23:39
Speaker 3: wasn't like you didn't figure out a way to get
23:41
Speaker 3: it done. But they took away one thing that has
23:44
Speaker 3: been you know, nobody else has been able to do.
23:46
Speaker 3: So is there a game plan associated with that?
23:50
Speaker 9: Yes, and that is a concern. And they only had
23:53
Speaker 9: one offensive touchdown and came a nine minutes left in
23:56
Speaker 9: the game. Otherwise they were turned away every time and
23:58
Speaker 9: had to kick four field goals against the four and eighteen.
24:02
Speaker 9: Now McDonald is saying that, well, Baron Flores is unique
24:07
Speaker 9: and he does things and nobody else in the league does.
24:09
Speaker 9: Some people try to do it, but they just don't
24:11
Speaker 9: do it scheme wise. The blitzing, the fake blitzing.
24:15
Speaker 10: But you can bet for sure that Atlanta.
24:18
Speaker 9: This week, the Colts next week, the Rams after that,
24:20
Speaker 9: the Panthers after that. In the forty nine ers are
24:23
Speaker 9: going to take this Minnesota game tape and say, let's
24:25
Speaker 9: do this. And McDonald made the point again yesterday as
24:29
Speaker 9: well to say, well, he even said at one point,
24:32
Speaker 9: I don't really respect teams that just try to lift
24:34
Speaker 9: game plans and become somebody else just because they saw
24:37
Speaker 9: somebody else do it in the copycat league.
24:40
Speaker 10: That may be true, but Atlanta.
24:42
Speaker 9: Has changed their pass rush. As I set off the top.
24:46
Speaker 9: We've seen what the Rams have done at the line
24:47
Speaker 9: of scrimmage on the defensive line against the Seahawks for years,
24:51
Speaker 9: although it wasn't nearly as impactful and Englewood in the
24:54
Speaker 9: last game, Donald's still through four interceptions against them. So
24:59
Speaker 9: Clint Kubiak this week, it's absolutely going back to some
25:03
Speaker 9: drawing board things going. Wait a minute, we went into
25:06
Speaker 9: the game allowing just eleven sacks eleven games a fuse
25:08
Speaker 9: to the NFL and my guy was on the ground
25:11
Speaker 9: four times in the first half.
25:13
Speaker 10: How that happens.
25:14
Speaker 9: So they've got to figure that out. They've got to
25:17
Speaker 9: figure out if they are blitzing, do we roll Donald
25:21
Speaker 9: away from the pressure, which they didn't do much of.
25:23
Speaker 9: They kept him in the pocket and they also tried
25:25
Speaker 9: to have him throw quickly after the pressure started getting
25:28
Speaker 9: to him, and then he started throwing it into guy's hands.
25:30
Speaker 9: I think it was six batted down passes. And I
25:34
Speaker 9: asked McDonald about that specifically yesterday. I said, can you
25:38
Speaker 9: scheme out of that? Or is that execution and play
25:41
Speaker 9: and cutting down guys in the legs and low blocks
25:43
Speaker 9: And he said a little bit of both, but basically
25:47
Speaker 9: there's some scheme that we need to change. And he
25:50
Speaker 9: didn't say it, but what it tells me is I
25:52
Speaker 9: bet they're going to sprint him out away from pressure
25:54
Speaker 9: and try to get Donald outside the tackles to see
25:57
Speaker 9: if they can't run away from some of the bat
26:00
Speaker 9: it passes in the inside blitzes. Cooper Cup mentioned that
26:03
Speaker 9: after the game. I think we talked about it yesterday,
26:05
Speaker 9: but Cooper Cup really outlined how they need schematically to
26:10
Speaker 9: be better, and he thinks it's running outside in bootleg
26:14
Speaker 9: type action away from the pressure. He also said receivers
26:17
Speaker 9: better get used to running three yard routes and taking
26:20
Speaker 9: quick dig routes instead of longer breaking routes that Smith
26:24
Speaker 9: and Jigba did for the first two months of the season.
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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Thank you, Greg. We appreciate it. To enjoy
26:30
Speaker 1: that tree. Maybe the entire Bell family hold hands today,
26:33
Speaker 1: circle around it. Maybe sing some carols to the tree tonight.
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Speaker 9: Oh man, that's like Peanuts Gang memory.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice.
26:41
Speaker 9: That's a nice memory.
26:42
Speaker 1: I can see you, like the Schroeder type over there,
26:44
Speaker 1: playing your little piano while everybody.
26:46
Speaker 9: Down just just jamming. Was good musically as.
26:53
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Greg Bell,
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Speaker 1: On Mondays, we have Mike Holmgren. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you've heard of him, Mike holmgrenn. He comes on our
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Speaker 1: show every Monday and Friday and on Mondays.
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Speaker 2: They are pretty much two prominent themes.
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Speaker 1: Number one, he complains about analytics when we talk about
28:15
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
28:17
Speaker 1: And number two, he complains about me when we talk
28:19
Speaker 1: about Christmas.
28:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it pretty much nailed it. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: you cut your hair so we didn't complain about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. One last thing, Yeah, I've given him one
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Speaker 1: less thing in the right direction.
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Speaker 2: Charles. Oh that was a mess, wasn't it. Anyway?
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Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do here today is combined the two.
28:38
Speaker 1: And this is for coach Holmgirl, and this is really
28:41
Speaker 1: going to make things very difficult for him because now
28:43
Speaker 1: I'm combining holiday analytics to try to figure out whether
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Speaker 1: or not we've been making mistakes or not and if
28:50
Speaker 1: we need to change and adjust the way that we
28:52
Speaker 1: do things because now we have analytics to back this up.
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Speaker 2: Oh great, yeah, I'm not looking forward to it.
28:59
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Christmas tree, since this has been
29:01
Speaker 1: the big topic of conversation, the Christmas tree. I put
29:05
Speaker 1: mine up on July fifth. Ashley put hers up the
29:09
Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving. Bucky put his up with his family yesterday. Okay,
29:15
Speaker 1: so we're all We're all up.
29:18
Speaker 2: Yep, we're up. We're up and running.
29:20
Speaker 1: Apparently, the first day of Advent is the customary day
29:27
Speaker 1: to put up your Christmas tree. Now that changes every year,
29:31
Speaker 1: so this year it would have been Sunday, November thirtieth.
29:35
Speaker 1: It's the fourth Sunday before Christmas. It gives you full
29:40
Speaker 1: four weeks to enjoy your Christmas tree. It might have
29:43
Speaker 1: something to do with the health of a real Christmas
29:46
Speaker 1: tree too. I have no idea, but that's the customary
29:49
Speaker 1: first day of Advent is when you're supposed to put
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Speaker 1: up your Christmas tree.
29:54
Speaker 2: Now.
29:54
Speaker 1: According to analytics though, because they're you know, figuring out
29:58
Speaker 1: joy and then they're figuring out you.
30:01
Speaker 2: Know, pleasure.
30:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, Franken Senson Merger get mixed into there. So according
30:07
Speaker 1: to analytics, the best time to put up your christmastery
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Speaker 1: is on November first.
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Speaker 2: Oh, those analytics are wrong. Do you believe the analytics? Bucky? No? No,
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Speaker 2: false again, you cannot be that?
30:22
Speaker 3: No, yes, no, I think that whatever, the traditional rule
30:30
Speaker 3: of the fourth day Advent, whatever, I think that's right
30:35
Speaker 3: around where it should be. And typically if you want
30:38
Speaker 3: to get a little extra joy out of you, and
30:40
Speaker 3: if you look into the analytics and you're like, I
30:42
Speaker 3: need more joy, then the day after Thanksgiving you're getting
30:46
Speaker 3: a little bit of a jump on that. Unless it
30:48
Speaker 3: just so happens that that happens to be, well, that
30:51
Speaker 3: would never be the day after Thanksgiving.
30:53
Speaker 2: Because Thursdays Thanksgiving Thursday.
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Speaker 5: I will say this though, because it's interesting bringing all
30:59
Speaker 5: these you know, extra equations into the overall analytics. We
31:03
Speaker 5: have to do that right, And that's where it gets
31:05
Speaker 5: tricky because once you start factoring, I think the joy
31:09
Speaker 5: has to be weighed higher. Right, because the joy is
31:12
Speaker 5: probably the most important part of the season.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking.
31:15
Speaker 5: So if you're weighing the joy, then you're far too
31:19
Speaker 5: late using the advent May and some you're not science
31:24
Speaker 5: y or some sort of calendar.
31:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I used to be a traditionalist. I used
31:28
Speaker 1: to be a lot like Bucky and then, but I've
31:31
Speaker 1: given myself into analytics a little bit. Now I'm like
31:33
Speaker 1: the Dan Campbell of Christmas tree.
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Speaker 2: I've noticed that go for it.
31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just go for it, even when it's I'll
31:40
Speaker 1: put up my Christmas tree, you know, from my own
31:42
Speaker 1: four yard line, four down and twelve a crazy view.
31:46
Speaker 3: It'll cost you one of these times. It'll come back
31:49
Speaker 3: to cost you a Christmas Tree championship.
31:51
Speaker 1: But a real Christmas tree it would cost me because
31:53
Speaker 1: it'd already be stinking.
31:54
Speaker 3: It's just December. I do have a real one, and
31:56
Speaker 3: it smells wonderful. You guys have real ones.
31:58
Speaker 4: I do not.
31:59
Speaker 2: Okay, and thanks fail analytics.
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Speaker 5: I used to, but I was the only one in
32:03
Speaker 5: my most so good.
32:05
Speaker 4: So good.
32:06
Speaker 2: I went stretched by mine this morning. Oh oh nice.
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Speaker 1: Bad news is we're out of time to do another one.
32:11
Speaker 1: The good news is now I can use these.
32:13
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 1: I felt like he was part of my Thanksgiving. Seemed
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Speaker 1: like he was calling every single game over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: and so I just sliced him up a piece of
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Speaker 1: turkey and a little bit of pumpkin pie, right and
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Speaker 1: just set it there right in front of the television
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Speaker 1: and just acted like Gina joined us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he would have appreciated that, yau. I don't
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Speaker 3: think he got to enjoy things too. Maybe still hasn't.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, are you kidding me? The catering they do
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Speaker 1: over there at CBS Sports. He had one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest tech turkey meals he's ever had in his star wife.
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Speaker 1: He just didn't have his family around. What a wonderful Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: Jean's Territorius with that's right here on chugging Bark. Good
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Speaker 1: new chat with you. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving anyway.
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Speaker 4: Good morning fellaws. Chucky. We missed you last week, And Bucky,
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Speaker 4: I did get home yesterday and my lovely wife did
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Speaker 4: leave two real thin slices of white meat in the
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Speaker 4: back corner of the fridge, and I asked you to
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Speaker 4: save that extra half gallon of gravy as you suggested
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Speaker 4: last week. Him I dumped it on and we had
37:43
Speaker 4: a really great Thanksgiving bucky good.
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear it.
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Speaker 3: By the way, my wife made her best gravy to date. Oh, like,
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Speaker 3: you need to just make a gallon of it, like
37:55
Speaker 3: you just said, Gino, you said, I need a gallon
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Speaker 3: of that on reserve, just in the back of the
37:59
Speaker 3: fridge in a flask.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll just be like lard. I'll just throw it
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Speaker 2: in the microwave when I need it.
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Speaker 1: Sure, you can't bring that into the stadium. It's just great.
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Speaker 2: It's gravy.
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Speaker 4: No more than four houses though, you can't bring more
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Speaker 4: than four houss. We'll get to security, all right.
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Speaker 1: You know, I would love to get flagged by TSA
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Speaker 1: for trying to sneak gravy onto an airplane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not really liquid anymore, sir.
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Speaker 2: Try to pour it out.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing in there, and it is explosive. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's talk some football.
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Speaker 6: You know what.
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Speaker 1: The one I want to start with is from the
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Speaker 1: college game, because I was thinking was such an interesting
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Speaker 1: play and still we're days after this Jeremiah Smith touchdown.
38:47
Speaker 1: It's kind of unlike any play that I think I've
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Speaker 1: seen before where he seemed to be bobbling the touchdown
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Speaker 1: as he went into the end zone and we weren't
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Speaker 1: sure if he got control of it before he stepped
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Speaker 1: out of the end zone over on the side. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was such a bang bang play. It looks like
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Speaker 1: such an obvious touchdown, Gene, and then you slow it
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Speaker 1: down and you're like, man, maybe that is a fumble
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Speaker 1: out the side of the end zone. I've heard people say, now,
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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I've heard people say, absolutely, that's a fumble.
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Speaker 1: Where does the greatest football referee of all time weigh.
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Speaker 2: In on this?
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Speaker 4: That's a big, big that's a big thie chuck. You
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Speaker 4: put a lot of heat on me here. But I
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Speaker 4: think I think it falls in that category. And I
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Speaker 4: know we've even spoken about this in previous meetings together
39:37
Speaker 4: where we start slowing this down to the place where
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Speaker 4: what we think is our state. You know, one of
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Speaker 4: the things we say is a hundred guys and hunter
39:45
Speaker 4: guys and guys in the bar look at this and go,
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Speaker 4: look it's a touchdown. And now you slow it down
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Speaker 4: and you go, wait a minute, he doesn't really have
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Speaker 4: control of it. Where does that piece one one end
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Speaker 4: and the other begin. Uh, we've all decided to bring
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Speaker 4: rep play into our games in certain capacities and allow
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Speaker 4: them to slow it down as slow as they would
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Speaker 4: like to make these decisions. But even with all that said,
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Speaker 4: there's this element of subjectivity which kind of lands on
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Speaker 4: that replay official or the collaboration making the final decision
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Speaker 4: and then the rest of us.
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Speaker 9: Right.
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Speaker 4: I think that play, coupled with the great catch that
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Speaker 4: McClellan made in the you dub Oregon game, kind of
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Speaker 4: both of those, although different types of plays, they really
40:29
Speaker 4: to me fall in that same category, right, Like you know,
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Speaker 4: I think if you look at it replay and really
40:35
Speaker 4: really slow it down. In the Ohio State game, it
40:38
Speaker 4: appears that he's lost possession right before he crosses the
40:41
Speaker 4: goal line. If he has that possession just and the
40:43
Speaker 4: ball breaks the plane and then bobbles it in that
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Speaker 4: step where the next two camera frames, we know that
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Speaker 4: if he had possession and it broke the plane, he
40:50
Speaker 4: was a runner. It's a touchdown. But if he did
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Speaker 4: lose that possession, you basically have a fumble within his
40:57
Speaker 4: own body. You know's he's the one who did it
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Speaker 4: all and he doesn't regather it before that foot touches
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Speaker 4: out of bounds. So there's forever going to be these
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Speaker 4: types of scenarios occur because the football world decided to
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Speaker 4: put subjective rulings into replay, and regardless of well slower
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Speaker 4: fast we put them, we're going to end up in
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Speaker 4: these little windows of time. I think that allow us
41:23
Speaker 4: to have these discussions. But in real time. To me, touchdown,
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Speaker 4: I brought it down frame by frame, right, put everything
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Speaker 4: in there. Hey, he lost possession.
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Speaker 10: Of this thing.
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Speaker 4: Let's go back and frame by frame it. So as
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Speaker 4: much as I would really love to give you the defendantive,
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Speaker 4: I think by the rules of replay and the way
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Speaker 4: that we have now become accustomed to it, you've got
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Speaker 4: to stay it.
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Speaker 2: For fumble cool.
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Speaker 4: But in the real world and watching that, I know,
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Speaker 4: you know, if we go back and circle back fifteen
41:52
Speaker 4: years before this happens, I don't I think it's a
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Speaker 4: blip in the screen, or we may not even really
41:57
Speaker 4: address it, right, we just move on. We've now brought
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Speaker 4: our game to this place, which is job security. I
42:05
Speaker 4: have to say selfishly at this point in life, you know,
42:08
Speaker 4: let's get on for a couple more years and then
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Speaker 4: you guys can do what you want.
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Speaker 3: With it later perfect well, I mean, just a little
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Speaker 3: add on to that then if that was I mean,
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Speaker 3: when you slow it down in real time, you're like,
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Speaker 3: it looks like you lost possession. Do you like the
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Speaker 3: rule or maybe you can explain why you think the
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Speaker 3: rule of if that was the case, had they ruled
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Speaker 3: every way, touch back other team's ball go in the
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Speaker 3: other direction versus all right, fumbled, he got back possession.
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Speaker 2: Here is the ball on the one. Do you like
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Speaker 2: the rule? And why is that rule the way that
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Speaker 2: it is?
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Speaker 4: You know, Bucky, you know, we've always kind of lived
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Speaker 4: by the philosophy that the end zone is sacred ground
42:46
Speaker 4: and it kind of does have its little asterisks in
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Speaker 4: the other other rulings that apply in the field. The
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Speaker 4: implementation of that, I believe, going back way before my time,
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Speaker 4: I think as well, was maybe too avoid just reckless
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Speaker 4: abandonment as you die toward the end zone, you know,
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Speaker 4: and understanding that if it pops out, we're still going
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Speaker 4: to get the ball back at the half yard line.
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Speaker 4: And there are other plays that also have the end
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Speaker 4: zone involved, which create other dynamics. And if this one
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Speaker 4: repeats itself over and over and we inevitably have that
43:20
Speaker 4: discussion like it seems too punitive because if that ball
43:24
Speaker 4: goes out at the half yard line, we're just coming
43:26
Speaker 4: back to the spot of the fumble and it's the second,
43:28
Speaker 4: third or fourth and goal. But the end zone is
43:32
Speaker 4: always been considered kind of that sacred space where you've
43:35
Speaker 4: got to take care of everything, and once that football
43:37
Speaker 4: gets into that area of the field, there are some
43:41
Speaker 4: different rules applied. So I really kind of my personal
43:45
Speaker 4: a fffeling, I don't mind it personally, but I do realize,
43:49
Speaker 4: you know, the pushback, because it just doesn't seem equitable
43:52
Speaker 4: in certain instances. And sometimes these are those instances, you know.
43:56
Speaker 4: But and in the replay situation, I've been an adamant.
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Speaker 4: I've stood very strongly with my feelings with replay when
44:04
Speaker 4: I was on the field actively doing it. And now
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Speaker 4: in this position, is I wish that we would only say,
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Speaker 4: maybe turn this dial back like twenty percent slower than
44:14
Speaker 4: real time, in no less than that, because at twenty
44:18
Speaker 4: percent or eighty percent real full speed, officials that are
44:22
Speaker 4: screwed in or really seeing the game at about eighty percent,
44:25
Speaker 4: just like players, the game slows down to that window
44:28
Speaker 4: and I think if we made our replay decisions in
44:31
Speaker 4: that same window of slowness without going into the frame
44:34
Speaker 4: by frame magic trick off, it's loose in mid air,
44:38
Speaker 4: I think that there would be more balance. I think
44:40
Speaker 4: there would be more consistency, and quite frankly, I think
44:44
Speaker 4: then you could see replay decisions made on the field
44:48
Speaker 4: that officials then could see the next day when they
44:51
Speaker 4: look and say, you know, I missed that. Look how
44:53
Speaker 4: they ruled on that at twenty percent slower than real time.
44:57
Speaker 4: I need to be able to get that right in
44:59
Speaker 4: real t time too, these frame by frames. As an
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Speaker 4: official in the human condition, you're ruling on these bang
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Speaker 4: bang plays, and your feel is, look, I got this right,
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Speaker 4: and then we come back and go, oh, one camera
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Speaker 4: frame before that happened, this happened, and you're wrong. That
45:16
Speaker 4: puts a bug in your brain when you're on that field,
45:19
Speaker 4: you know, as you continue through your profession. So I
45:23
Speaker 4: really wish that we would all collectively come back and say,
45:25
Speaker 4: let's find that sweet spot where we're just slowing the
45:28
Speaker 4: game down to this level and we're making all decisions
45:31
Speaker 4: at that level too. I think then you know, you
45:34
Speaker 4: could blend, you could blend training, It would become more
45:38
Speaker 4: of a training tool than this other element we see.
45:41
Speaker 4: How many times have we seen forward passes go forward
45:44
Speaker 4: and the ball just lays there because everybody's scared to
45:47
Speaker 4: death to blow the whistle now, right, or any fumble
45:50
Speaker 4: that happens near the player going down. Everything's just we
45:54
Speaker 4: let it go now because replay'll fix it. To me,
45:58
Speaker 4: from that purity of what I did for my life's
46:00
Speaker 4: work and his sports, that hurts me because it diminishes,
46:05
Speaker 4: it doesn't allow great officials to be great. It's pulling
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Speaker 4: everybody back towards being mediocre in some ways. And that's
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Speaker 4: just my feel on it.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 1: CBS Rules analyst Jean sterret Tor joins us every week
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Speaker 1: here on Chucking Buck in the Morning to talk about
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Speaker 1: some of the interesting calls over the weekend. And you
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Speaker 1: brought up the name Jeremiah McClellan, so I ought to
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this. I mean, to me, it
46:27
Speaker 1: just looked like a really fancy failure by a guy
46:29
Speaker 1: in silly clothes. And yeah, you know, and yet maybe you,
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Speaker 1: as an official, unbiased may have had a different view
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Speaker 1: of it. Did they get that right? Calling it incomplete listen.
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Speaker 4: I said it on air. I'm still standing with it.
46:48
Speaker 4: I was different from the ruling on the field at
46:50
Speaker 4: the end of the replay. I thought it was an
46:54
Speaker 4: unbelievable play where a player secured with strength and if
46:57
Speaker 4: you look, two or three of his fingers rush were
46:59
Speaker 4: even hurled on the on the ball pined to his helmet. Yes,
47:03
Speaker 4: when he hit the ground, the ball moved a little
47:06
Speaker 4: with his hands. Okay, that's that's what happens when people
47:09
Speaker 4: land with footballs. That doesn't move out of his control.
47:12
Speaker 4: But it didn't move, but his hand stayed firmly on that.
47:16
Speaker 4: And again that's I felt like, this is just an
47:20
Speaker 4: unbelievable catch, a great play that we looked and like.
47:24
Speaker 4: It just just it doesn't look like you can be
47:27
Speaker 4: able to possibly and physically do that. Well. I think
47:30
Speaker 4: he did right, and uh and again I think that's
47:34
Speaker 4: that's that space that we all live in there. But
47:37
Speaker 4: I thought, and again maybe some of this is me
47:40
Speaker 4: just get a little romantic and old with it. I
47:42
Speaker 4: think there has to be some artistic you know, like
47:44
Speaker 4: in gymnastics, you stick to landing and then they say,
47:47
Speaker 4: you know, the Italian judge goes eight point five on
47:50
Speaker 4: artistic impression, right, or something to that effect. When you
47:53
Speaker 4: make a play like that, I think, don't you get
47:55
Speaker 4: a little extra window of Hey, I know it moved
47:58
Speaker 4: a little bit, but my god, you know you pulled
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Speaker 4: it off. We're giving it to you. You know. Uh,
48:04
Speaker 4: maybe we should vote on that sometimes. But I really
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Speaker 4: thought it was possibly catch.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, what do you think.
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Speaker 3: Bucky was definitely there, you know, I mean, it was
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Speaker 3: basically amazing.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. That was definitely a catch,
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Speaker 1: just like if he's in price sock definitely was not
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Speaker 1: p I on a very pimidal gameplay in the game,
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Speaker 1: Jane and I speak that would out by us on
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Speaker 1: this one preach check. That was a terrible call.
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Speaker 4: Jane, Nick Ashley Evens said, preach chuck in the background there.
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Speaker 4: If you guys need me to get out there and
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Speaker 4: referee the remainder of the show, it might take me
48:43
Speaker 4: two or three hours to get there, but I'd be
48:44
Speaker 4: more than willing to It. Sounds like we have a
48:46
Speaker 4: little biased opinions in some of these, but I thought
48:50
Speaker 4: I thought preduct did a great job of closing on
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Speaker 4: the receiver and without turning his back and looking back
48:55
Speaker 4: toward the football and almost timed it perfectly. I do
48:59
Speaker 4: think though, that right before that ball got to that
49:01
Speaker 4: mesh point, and I don't know that he needed to
49:04
Speaker 4: do it. I think his arms went more toward the
49:06
Speaker 4: receiver and as opposed to going vertical, I think if
49:10
Speaker 4: he puts his arms straight up and stretches straight up
49:12
Speaker 4: in the air as he's closing there, the contact becomes
49:15
Speaker 4: just a little closer to what we call in the
49:17
Speaker 4: officiating world to bang bang and not bang breath bang,
49:21
Speaker 4: And I think that was where that piece kind of
49:24
Speaker 4: went there. Anytime a defensive player is chasing chase mode
49:28
Speaker 4: into a receiver and doesn't get his head turned back
49:32
Speaker 4: around so that we as officials can give him some
49:34
Speaker 4: love that yeah contact, anybody's playing the ball. If you
49:37
Speaker 4: don't get that head around, now that your window of
49:41
Speaker 4: what I can allow you to do gets shrunken. We
49:44
Speaker 4: have to now be a little more technical because now
49:46
Speaker 4: you are just trying to time this through that player
49:49
Speaker 4: without regard to playing the football. So we get a
49:52
Speaker 4: little more technical on those plays, and the bang bang
49:55
Speaker 4: play doesn't get as much love as if they're turning
49:57
Speaker 4: back and I can put you in the window of
49:59
Speaker 4: contact while you're playing the ball field. So both play.
50:03
Speaker 4: I hate to be over two with you this morning, Chucky,
50:06
Speaker 4: but either gravy was really good. Oh yeah, with you
50:10
Speaker 4: on both of them.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe maybe they should stop trying to cheat, Geane,
50:14
Speaker 3: Maybe Price Auction stop trying to break the rules.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know Jean's territor love Tiki tak football calling. Okay,
50:20
Speaker 1: I got it.
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Speaker 2: I understand that. I don't think that's true.
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Speaker 3: Don't listen to him, Jeans. I mean, when you're right,
50:26
Speaker 3: you're right, and we're just gonna cry about.
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Speaker 1: It in the nursing home with football these days, I
50:33
Speaker 1: don't I don't agree with that, je I'll go ahead
50:35
Speaker 1: and move on.
50:36
Speaker 3: It can just be you and I like last week, Geane,
50:37
Speaker 3: if you'd like, we can go ahead and meet these two.
50:41
Speaker 1: I do have.
50:42
Speaker 3: I have one that I want a little bit of
50:44
Speaker 3: an explanation the whole pick play thing. Chuck and I
50:48
Speaker 3: were talking after the show yesterday, and you know, is
50:51
Speaker 3: there a an amount of room that you have within
50:56
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage where that's completely legit? Because it
50:59
Speaker 3: does feel like in the Bronco game there was a
51:01
Speaker 3: couple of plays. One was the fourth down in overtime
51:04
Speaker 3: to keep the game alive, and they ran a pickplay,
51:07
Speaker 3: so it's like they obviously like the idea. If it
51:09
Speaker 3: doesn't get called, there's a good way chance the guy's
51:12
Speaker 3: going to be open. And then in the final play
51:15
Speaker 3: that was a two point version that got batted down,
51:18
Speaker 3: the guy was going to be open because of another
51:19
Speaker 3: one that That one seems far more legit where the
51:22
Speaker 3: guy got caught up in traffic trying to go across
51:24
Speaker 3: the line. But those immediate pick plays seem like they
51:27
Speaker 3: work every single time, and sometimes there's a flag and
51:29
Speaker 3: sometimes there isn't.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, multiple levels, there's a block and white issue here
51:34
Speaker 4: if you are legally, as an offensive player allowed to
51:37
Speaker 4: block within one yard of where the ball was snap
51:40
Speaker 4: going forward downfield, so that little window, and that's why
51:43
Speaker 4: you'll see a lot of times if teams have a
51:45
Speaker 4: penalty after a touchdown and can move the football from
51:48
Speaker 4: the two to the one, they'll go for two that
51:51
Speaker 4: because there's now they can block from the one to
51:54
Speaker 4: the goal line legally and kind of set that screen
51:56
Speaker 4: or what looks like a screenplay. In college, it's still
52:00
Speaker 4: legally be blocking while player goes right behind him, right
52:03
Speaker 4: at the goal line, and that would be legal. So
52:05
Speaker 4: there is a block and white line as it relates
52:07
Speaker 4: to what's legal with offensive passing experience, and it is
52:10
Speaker 4: making contact within that yard. Now, once we get beyond
52:13
Speaker 4: that yard, a lot of different elements start to take place.
52:17
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things here in that fourth out
52:21
Speaker 4: play the defensive player. We're beyond the yard, so we're
52:24
Speaker 4: not in the block and white portion now. But now
52:27
Speaker 4: when that receiver comes off of the line after he's
52:29
Speaker 4: gone more than the yard, if that defensive player initiates engagement,
52:33
Speaker 4: he's coming into him and putting hands out toward him.
52:37
Speaker 4: Now you're what you're allowed to kind of do as
52:40
Speaker 4: an offensive player. Now I can either fight to get
52:43
Speaker 4: you off, I can snuggle and kind of ride you
52:45
Speaker 4: away from the play. You've given me more window to
52:49
Speaker 4: kind of legally pick you because you came into me
52:52
Speaker 4: and initiated that rubber that snuggle contact. So now my
52:57
Speaker 4: ability to kind of cheat you a little bit ists
53:00
Speaker 4: in those scenarios. When we're running the other traditional pick plays,
53:04
Speaker 4: a lot of times you'll see offensive pass interference is called,
53:07
Speaker 4: and it's this bang bang situation with a defensive player
53:10
Speaker 4: out in space and a receiver at the top of
53:13
Speaker 4: his route or something. Those plays, when we have those,
53:16
Speaker 4: you've got to kind of harken yourself move to a
53:18
Speaker 4: different sport and look at a block charge playing basketball.
53:21
Speaker 4: If the defensive player is stationary and has established his
53:25
Speaker 4: position on the field, and the offensive player now is
53:28
Speaker 4: coming toward him, the offense is responsibility is he has
53:32
Speaker 4: to avoid him. He cannot run into a defensive player
53:36
Speaker 4: in the established position that he has gained prior to contact,
53:39
Speaker 4: so it would be a charge, right, So if it's
53:41
Speaker 4: a charge, it's an offensive pass interference. If it becomes
53:45
Speaker 4: a blocking file, we're now right before that meshing or
53:48
Speaker 4: that point of contact, the defensive player slides into the
53:52
Speaker 4: offensive player or is outside of his frame of where
53:56
Speaker 4: he established. Now the onus becomes an onus on the
53:59
Speaker 4: defensive player. So there's multiple layers with offensive passing appearances.
54:03
Speaker 4: It relates to beyond that yard line, but within the
54:05
Speaker 4: yard all things really, you know, we can go do
54:10
Speaker 4: what we need to do there. So there's a ton
54:13
Speaker 4: of those elements within those within those plays, And I
54:15
Speaker 4: don't disagree with you. I think that the the first
54:19
Speaker 4: one I felt like the defensive player of the fourth
54:21
Speaker 4: ump player the defensive prayer reached and began engagement. He
54:24
Speaker 4: kind of opened his window up to allow that little
54:27
Speaker 4: extra rub bump the last one. There is a lot
54:31
Speaker 4: of there's a lot of congestion there right which which
54:35
Speaker 4: convolutes a little And then at the time of that happened,
54:38
Speaker 4: as we said, he said the bat of the football down.
54:40
Speaker 4: So it became a little bit of a non issue
54:42
Speaker 4: in that regard. But there's definitely a lot of tentacles
54:46
Speaker 4: on that play, a lot of things to digest.
54:48
Speaker 1: Well in our last minute, and I really am up
54:51
Speaker 1: against it. But I think you can answer this one
54:53
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Did we have a case on the marioda
54:57
Speaker 1: intentional grounding where he threw it over the receiver's head,
55:01
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly over the receiver's head. And yet we've
55:06
Speaker 1: watched that play a thousand times in our lives and
55:09
Speaker 1: it doesn't get called intentional grounding. It did on Sunday night,
55:13
Speaker 1: and it seemed that the reaction was that the official
55:17
Speaker 1: just didn't know the rule. I mean, is that what happened.
55:21
Speaker 4: It's not in the rule of black and white. But
55:23
Speaker 4: Terry McCully did a really good job. He's been a
55:25
Speaker 4: great official with three Super Bowls in his resume the
55:28
Speaker 4: analyst for NBC. By our philosophies, when a receiver is
55:33
Speaker 4: between the numbers and the sidelines, that third we call
55:36
Speaker 4: of the field and a football would go over the
55:39
Speaker 4: head of that receiver. Philosophically, officials don't throw intentional grounding there,
55:44
Speaker 4: even though we know the balls fifteen feet in the
55:46
Speaker 4: air and his verdict we're only takes him to twelve
55:48
Speaker 4: and a half feet or whatever the case may be.
55:51
Speaker 4: So it's kind of an NFL philosophy's ruling, or that's
55:56
Speaker 4: how we've always administered that penalty. You look in the book,
55:59
Speaker 4: it doesn't say anything about thirds and all of those things.
56:02
Speaker 4: But as you said too, Chuck, that's a play that
56:05
Speaker 4: we've seen many times and we look and go, look, guys,
56:07
Speaker 4: that's not catchable. There's nothing there. But there's also no
56:10
Speaker 4: flag for intentional grounding. So I think that's that window,
56:14
Speaker 4: and I think he explained it well philosophically. But then,
56:17
Speaker 4: as we all know, we look into the dictionary, we
56:19
Speaker 4: go google it and go, dude, that's not in the
56:21
Speaker 4: book anywhere. What are you talking about? So that's where
56:24
Speaker 4: that play falls. That's kind of the NFL in officiating
56:28
Speaker 4: has always been more liberal with not calling intentional grounding, right,
56:33
Speaker 4: I mean you did receivers in the area had an
56:35
Speaker 4: opportunity to touch the ball. All of those scenarios apply
56:39
Speaker 4: in many cases, and we usually are very liberal not
56:42
Speaker 4: to call that foul. This is another one of those
56:45
Speaker 4: scenarios and why he disagreed with what the officials did
56:47
Speaker 4: on the field.
56:48
Speaker 1: The great Gene Sterotor joins us every week here on
56:51
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck. This week on't know maybe not your best.
56:53
Speaker 2: I think it was one of your best ever. A
56:56
Speaker 2: little off your.
56:56
Speaker 1: Game, a little bit, Gene, I don't know. Better Next
57:00
Speaker 1: week maybe that'd be my advice. Ian Right, it's hard.
57:06
Speaker 4: I'll be watching film all week. Chuck, I swear it.
57:08
Speaker 4: I need it. Keep sending me more plays, Chucky. I
57:11
Speaker 4: love it.
57:12
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Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ R f M gave Everett.
57:35
Speaker 1: I gave the Kraken to Ashley and Bucket last week.
57:39
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, get him going, and they couldn't
57:42
Speaker 1: win us a game. So hopefully me being back this week,
57:46
Speaker 1: we'll get us back on track.
57:47
Speaker 2: Everett.
57:49
Speaker 12: Yeah, No, you were the you're the good luck Churm.
57:51
Speaker 12: I think it's just really no no vacation for Chuck.
57:55
Speaker 1: However, again, everybody in the organization's been buzzing about it.
57:58
Speaker 2: Is that what you're telling me?
58:00
Speaker 4: Yeah?
58:00
Speaker 12: They were who let Chuck Powell off offline.
58:03
Speaker 1: For oh for a Lambert Leon Lambert just can't stop
58:08
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:12
Speaker 2: Calls me old g lse good luck John Bri good
58:17
Speaker 2: luck Chuck, Chuck, good luck Chuck.
58:23
Speaker 1: Well, what is the reason, Everett fits? You why the
58:26
Speaker 1: crack and haven't won in three games?
58:29
Speaker 12: You know, I listen, I the only real I want
58:33
Speaker 12: to say, stinker.
58:34
Speaker 2: We talked about this quite a bit.
58:36
Speaker 12: When you're in the middle of a season, you're not
58:39
Speaker 12: going to win every game. There are going to be
58:41
Speaker 12: challenges that present themselves. And going back to the Dallas game.
58:46
Speaker 12: I mean Lane even said it. They played good enough,
58:49
Speaker 12: but there were just a few key mistakes on Thanksgiving
58:52
Speaker 12: Eve that you just can't afford to make. And at
58:55
Speaker 12: this level, you make those mistakes, they end up in
58:58
Speaker 12: the back of your net. The Edmund game, you're going
59:01
Speaker 12: up against an Oilers team that, now for the third
59:04
Speaker 12: year a row, have gotten off to a five hundred
59:09
Speaker 12: or slightly were slightly better start through twenty plus games.
59:14
Speaker 12: They don't seem to have their ducks in a row,
59:18
Speaker 12: if you will, But the last two years they've gone
59:21
Speaker 12: on to the Stanley Cup finals and they've won the West.
59:24
Speaker 12: So Edmonton this is about the time when they turn
59:27
Speaker 12: it around. So I will say a performance from the
59:30
Speaker 12: Oilers on Saturday didn't surprise me. But I think the
59:35
Speaker 12: fact that the Kraken couldn't beat one of the most
59:39
Speaker 12: you know, the struggling goalies in this league, you know,
59:41
Speaker 12: that's obviously something that they weren't too happy about.
59:46
Speaker 4: In that game.
59:47
Speaker 12: You know, the shots weren't weren't where they needed to be,
59:51
Speaker 12: the passes were a little bit sloppy coming through the
59:53
Speaker 12: neutral zone. It just wasn't as sharp and as crisp
59:57
Speaker 12: as I think this team expects it to be and
1:00:00
Speaker 12: regardless of how the Oilers have started, whenever you've got
1:00:04
Speaker 12: McDavid and dry Sinle and Nujian Hopkins was his first
1:00:07
Speaker 12: game back after a you know, lengthy ir stent. You
1:00:11
Speaker 12: had Zach Hyman back for his fifth game of the season.
1:00:16
Speaker 12: He was out for the first month of the year.
1:00:18
Speaker 12: So whenever you've got a dangerous team like that, regardless
1:00:23
Speaker 12: of their record, you have to know that they're gonna
1:00:26
Speaker 12: come for you, and they did on Saturday.
1:00:29
Speaker 3: How are we feeling about Joey d since he's been
1:00:31
Speaker 3: back to cord with when it comes to you know,
1:00:34
Speaker 3: being in Netay, is he right back to where we
1:00:36
Speaker 3: want him to be or is that something that does
1:00:39
Speaker 3: take a little time to knock some rust off.
1:00:42
Speaker 12: You know, I think it does take a little bit
1:00:44
Speaker 12: of time. But for Joey, I mean, he is a
1:00:45
Speaker 12: goalie that prides himself on his preparation. He's always ready,
1:00:50
Speaker 12: he's always working. You know, you watch him after a
1:00:54
Speaker 12: morning skate where he's starting that night, he goes to
1:00:58
Speaker 12: the gym, gets a full practice workout, he goes through
1:01:02
Speaker 12: his mental preparation.
1:01:03
Speaker 4: He's got the.
1:01:03
Speaker 12: VR goggles on that he uses a pregame to dial
1:01:08
Speaker 12: himself in. So even when Joey, you know, misses time
1:01:11
Speaker 12: like we saw him earlier this year, he he doesn't
1:01:15
Speaker 12: need a whole lot of time to get back. And
1:01:17
Speaker 12: I think we're seeing Joey Decord still perform at a
1:01:22
Speaker 12: very high level. I think where the the the issue
1:01:27
Speaker 12: lies is I think with just the team's lack of offense.
1:01:30
Speaker 12: And Layne Lambert will tell you you know, he wants
1:01:32
Speaker 12: the team to shoot more. He wants there to maybe
1:01:35
Speaker 12: be a little bit more of a of a selfish
1:01:37
Speaker 12: mentality when it comes to trying to generate offense, and
1:01:42
Speaker 12: so Joey Decord, I think is fine. I think this
1:01:45
Speaker 12: year we've seen that Philip Grubauer is having a very
1:01:49
Speaker 12: good resurgent season compared to the last two and and
1:01:53
Speaker 12: he's playing some of his best hockey that we've seen
1:01:57
Speaker 12: throughout his tenure here in Seattle. So I don't think
1:02:00
Speaker 12: the goaltending has been an issue this season as opposed
1:02:06
Speaker 12: to just trying to generate more offense.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: And a lot of your offense, let's face it, in
1:02:11
Speaker 1: the NHL, comes on that man advantage and here you go,
1:02:14
Speaker 1: oh for five against Dallas on the power play, and
1:02:17
Speaker 1: oh for two in getting shut out by Edmonton you
1:02:21
Speaker 1: obviously didn't succeed in it. And a one nothing shut
1:02:24
Speaker 1: out of the Islanders. How close does Lane feel that
1:02:28
Speaker 1: they are to rearranging the decks on the on the
1:02:32
Speaker 1: you know, the chairs on the deck, to try to
1:02:34
Speaker 1: get the right combination of guys so you can improve
1:02:37
Speaker 1: that power play. You got to be successful in that area.
1:02:40
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's not it's it's been an area of opportunity.
1:02:43
Speaker 12: We'll say that over the last handful of games. You
1:02:46
Speaker 12: go oh for six against the Oilers, you go oh
1:02:50
Speaker 12: for five against against Dallas, and I think the Cracket
1:02:55
Speaker 12: are oh for their last thirteen or fourteen overall, going
1:02:59
Speaker 12: back a few games on the power play, Yeah, I
1:03:02
Speaker 12: mean it's not that's not great, Bob, not great. And
1:03:07
Speaker 12: and listen again, it all just comes from the that
1:03:12
Speaker 12: shooting first mentality. And and Lane will tell you the
1:03:18
Speaker 12: looks that the Kraken are getting on the power play,
1:03:21
Speaker 12: they're not bad looks. But I think there is still
1:03:24
Speaker 12: too much waiting for the perfect pass, waiting for the
1:03:28
Speaker 12: perfect lane. And and you go back to a lot
1:03:31
Speaker 12: of goals that have been scored this season, and particularly
1:03:34
Speaker 12: from the fourth line, who has done a really good
1:03:37
Speaker 12: job of shipping in offense this year. Pucks are going
1:03:40
Speaker 12: off of skates, they're going off of of legs, And
1:03:43
Speaker 12: there was a ty Cartier goal last week in Chicago
1:03:47
Speaker 12: that went off of Oscar Fisker ballguards inside knee, off
1:03:52
Speaker 12: of ty Cartier's outside knee and then went into the
1:03:56
Speaker 12: back of the bed.
1:03:57
Speaker 4: And I also think too, with.
1:03:58
Speaker 12: James Schwartz now out six weeks, you lose a really
1:04:02
Speaker 12: big net front piece on the power play because Jayden
1:04:06
Speaker 12: Schwartz is the kind of guy that will score a
1:04:08
Speaker 12: goal off his face if he has to write, and
1:04:11
Speaker 12: you lose a lot of that with him on the
1:04:15
Speaker 12: shelf now for the next month and a half. So
1:04:18
Speaker 12: you know, I don't know what that looks like moving forward,
1:04:20
Speaker 12: the Cracking, they work on the power play every day
1:04:23
Speaker 12: in practice. It'll be interested to see what happens today
1:04:27
Speaker 12: and tomorrow at practice. The Cracking have got one of
1:04:29
Speaker 12: the very rare lulls in the schedule right now. They
1:04:33
Speaker 12: haven't played since Saturday. They'll play in two days time
1:04:37
Speaker 12: on Thursday. But after Thursday, the Cracking are playing every
1:04:41
Speaker 12: other day, including a December twenty second, twenty third, back
1:04:45
Speaker 12: to back going into Christmas. So the schedule is going
1:04:48
Speaker 12: to pick back up here. So hopefully, you know, the
1:04:51
Speaker 12: last couple of days today and tomorrow, you'll be able
1:04:54
Speaker 12: to make a lot of the practice time that you
1:04:56
Speaker 12: do get.
1:04:56
Speaker 1: You know, football play last like you know a second
1:04:59
Speaker 1: nat half a baseball play, you know, a few seconds more.
1:05:05
Speaker 1: I play by play guy on radio doesn't have to
1:05:08
Speaker 1: follow continuous action and those sports like a hockey guy does.
1:05:12
Speaker 1: So how are you handling Oscar Fisker mole guard?
1:05:16
Speaker 2: How is that flowing?
1:05:18
Speaker 1: Having to say that name every time that he the
1:05:21
Speaker 1: puck gets near him? Are you just skipping it over?
1:05:23
Speaker 1: Or if you come up with a nickname, what are
1:05:25
Speaker 1: we doing there?
1:05:26
Speaker 4: Oh?
1:05:27
Speaker 12: No, so you know when he when he was up here,
1:05:30
Speaker 12: you know, Oscar Fisker moleguard.
1:05:32
Speaker 4: It's fun to say.
1:05:33
Speaker 12: It's it's a very fun name to say. I will
1:05:37
Speaker 12: say we've shortened it to h O f m uh
1:05:41
Speaker 12: internally and in.
1:05:43
Speaker 4: The in in in the shorthand. But no, you're gonna
1:05:46
Speaker 4: You're gonna.
1:05:46
Speaker 12: Really punch out the fist Skur mole guard or the
1:05:50
Speaker 12: Oscar fish Sker mole guard.
1:05:52
Speaker 4: You're gonna have fun with it.
1:05:53
Speaker 12: So I pride myself I'm being able to get everyone's
1:05:56
Speaker 12: full name. Okay, when I can, I mean unless you,
1:06:01
Speaker 12: I would say, unless your Vancouver who has an Elias
1:06:04
Speaker 12: and Elias and Marcus Patterson. So that that's the one
1:06:07
Speaker 12: team that I'm like, I hope that that will be Ice.
1:06:10
Speaker 4: At the same time, I.
1:06:10
Speaker 1: Mean, they all can't be Capo CaCO, you know what
1:06:13
Speaker 1: I mean.
1:06:14
Speaker 12: They can't all.
1:06:17
Speaker 1: Right, back on the call Thursday back against the Edmonton Oilers.
1:06:22
Speaker 1: I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. We'll talk to
1:06:25
Speaker 1: you again next week.
1:06:27
Speaker 4: I did, and.
1:06:28
Speaker 12: I'm gonna instruct rich More to not approve anymore of
1:06:30
Speaker 12: your vacation time.
1:06:31
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah.
1:06:34
Speaker 12: Team really great for the hockey team we have. We
1:06:37
Speaker 12: have games to win, we have playoffs to make. We
1:06:40
Speaker 12: can't have shut Powell getting some quality time with his family.
1:06:44
Speaker 2: We can't have that.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: I really do have to start appreciating my value to
1:06:47
Speaker 1: the Kracking.
1:06:48
Speaker 2: You're right, thank you, sir.
1:06:52
Speaker 4: Appreciate you allright, guys, see it.
1:06:55
Speaker 2: Hi the great effort.
1:06:55
Speaker 1: That's you right here, the voice of your Seattle Kracking,
1:06:59
Speaker 1: and he will be on the call Thursday night back
1:07:02
Speaker 1: against the Oilers. We got to snap this three game
1:07:04
Speaker 1: losing streak, all right. Coming up next on the program,
1:07:07
Speaker 1: how many NFL teams actually did drop the ball at
1:07:11
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1:07:16
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Speaker 13: Football, and I want you to get it all over yourself.
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Speaker 1: I think I have.
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Speaker 2: I think I have. Oh yeah, it all over myself?
1:08:00
Speaker 10: You have?
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Speaker 2: You still have some?
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Speaker 9: Right?
1:08:01
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Speaker 1: Is that?
1:08:02
Speaker 2: Right? Going a little crusty, hasn't it?
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Speaker 10: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. I didn't know that was there.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: Thank you there all morning. Yeah, Yeah, I.
1:08:10
Speaker 1: Was wondering while you were licking your thumb and trying
1:08:12
Speaker 1: to wipe.
1:08:12
Speaker 2: It faced here.
1:08:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got a little bit of Ohio State Michigan, right, yeah,
1:08:19
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Well, I'm going to get it
1:08:21
Speaker 1: all up in there again this weekend, that's for sure.
1:08:24
Speaker 1: Joining us now is Rick new Iasley gives great advice,
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Speaker 1: as it turns out our college football insider, Good morning, sir, Hi.
1:08:33
Speaker 4: How are you boys?
1:08:35
Speaker 13: It sounds like clean up on Aisle nine, But other
1:08:38
Speaker 13: than that, all is well.
1:08:40
Speaker 1: It's hard not to get into this. I mean, I've
1:08:43
Speaker 1: said it a couple of times this week there, men.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: There haven't been a lot of times in my life,
1:08:48
Speaker 1: and I know college football has its issues right now, coach,
1:08:51
Speaker 1: but there haven't been a lot of times in my
1:08:53
Speaker 1: life where I got to Sunday and I actually felt
1:08:55
Speaker 1: a little bit disappointed as what I was getting ready
1:08:58
Speaker 1: to watch because there was no way to match how
1:09:01
Speaker 1: much I enjoyed Friday and Saturday and college football. And
1:09:04
Speaker 1: maybe that happens again this week. I don't know. I
1:09:06
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of things going wrong with
1:09:08
Speaker 1: this sport right now, but there's a whole heck of
1:09:10
Speaker 1: a lot that's going right for it.
1:09:13
Speaker 13: The games deliver there's no question about it. And in
1:09:16
Speaker 13: this particular iteration the twenty twenty five season, we don't
1:09:20
Speaker 13: have enough room at the end for the teams that
1:09:22
Speaker 13: probably could win a national championship. I mean there's a
1:09:26
Speaker 13: number of teams that are going to be outside looking
1:09:28
Speaker 13: in when the committee gets finished with their work this
1:09:31
Speaker 13: next Sunday.
1:09:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's part of it. There were
1:09:33
Speaker 1: just like there were so many teams that had a
1:09:35
Speaker 1: tournament possibility that you got to watch. It just felt
1:09:39
Speaker 1: like all the games just had greater magnitude. And now
1:09:42
Speaker 1: we get to Selection Sunday this week, and I hope,
1:09:48
Speaker 1: I hope that they don't overreact. I mean, there are
1:09:50
Speaker 1: sixteen viable teams that could be in the tournament this year,
1:09:54
Speaker 1: but I hope they don't overreact and feel, well, we
1:09:56
Speaker 1: have to expand it now, because, as Nick Saban said
1:09:59
Speaker 1: on Saturday, Man, I watch college basketball sex Selection show
1:10:03
Speaker 1: and they have sixty eight teams and they spend two
1:10:06
Speaker 1: hours afterwards talking about the teams that didn't get in.
1:10:09
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter how big you make the tournament.
1:10:12
Speaker 1: I like twelve. I want to keep it here for
1:10:14
Speaker 1: at least for a while. Kick the tires on this thing.
1:10:18
Speaker 13: I'm with you. I've long you know, said that the
1:10:22
Speaker 13: number needs to go higher just so that you can
1:10:26
Speaker 13: pay your bills. I mean, at the end of the day,
1:10:29
Speaker 13: that's the reason it will go higher. But if you're
1:10:32
Speaker 13: wanting competitive football and you're wanting what we have, I
1:10:38
Speaker 13: just think we need to tweak the schedules and we
1:10:40
Speaker 13: need to make it not as subjective in the committee
1:10:44
Speaker 13: room because they just stick to wins and losses, the
1:10:49
Speaker 13: head to head stuff.
1:10:50
Speaker 4: The notion of.
1:10:55
Speaker 13: You know, who you played really isn't factored in. You
1:11:00
Speaker 13: can't have Notre Dame ahead of Miami. That makes no
1:11:03
Speaker 13: sense to anybody.
1:11:04
Speaker 1: Give us your tweets, go through your list of tweaks
1:11:07
Speaker 1: that can fix what we look like. We're going to
1:11:10
Speaker 1: be facing some potential issues.
1:11:13
Speaker 13: Yeah, and you know, if you talked to Texas, there
1:11:17
Speaker 13: are five teams that are going to make the tournament
1:11:20
Speaker 13: from the SEC. And if you look at the top
1:11:23
Speaker 13: five teams in the SEC, there are two that are
1:11:26
Speaker 13: seven and one and there are three that are six
1:11:28
Speaker 13: and two. Texas is one of those six and two teams,
1:11:31
Speaker 13: and they beat the other two six and two teams,
1:11:34
Speaker 13: but they lost to Ohio State. The reason they lost
1:11:37
Speaker 13: to Ohio State is they played Ohio State. They didn't
1:11:41
Speaker 13: have to, and they're in. If we want games that
1:11:44
Speaker 13: are going to be of significance in the non conference,
1:11:47
Speaker 13: we can't penalize people. And yet I also understand if
1:11:51
Speaker 13: you didn't win the game, you can't be rewarded as
1:11:53
Speaker 13: if you did. So we need to have a way
1:11:56
Speaker 13: to actually make standardize the non conference schedules as the
1:12:03
Speaker 13: NFL does, and if we can do that, then we
1:12:06
Speaker 13: can get to where we want to be. But all
1:12:08
Speaker 13: this arguing and all this consternation actually as much a
1:12:12
Speaker 13: part of the Thanksgiving table of college football as anything.
1:12:16
Speaker 3: Well, if you're wanting to do that, incentivize people to
1:12:19
Speaker 3: do what Texas did. And in playing Ohio State in
1:12:22
Speaker 3: Week one, don't you think.
1:12:24
Speaker 13: By the way they and by the way Bucky they
1:12:27
Speaker 13: lost the game fourteen to seven, they outgained them by
1:12:30
Speaker 13: two hundred yards, right, I mean, it just was one
1:12:34
Speaker 13: of those first games that just didn't go well.
1:12:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just couldn't finish off some of those drives.
1:12:38
Speaker 3: And so to me, it's if you're talking about it,
1:12:41
Speaker 3: you know, basically you want to get to the root
1:12:42
Speaker 3: of the problem follow the dollar. You would have to
1:12:45
Speaker 3: think that the dollar says playing games, having games like
1:12:48
Speaker 3: that to be kicking off seasons or having those in
1:12:50
Speaker 3: the first few weeks of a season is going to
1:12:53
Speaker 3: be more of a money generator than playing against some
1:12:56
Speaker 3: paddy cake, you know, team that you know you're going
1:12:58
Speaker 3: to blow out by fifty sixty points. And so don't
1:13:01
Speaker 3: you think that the College Football and the committee included
1:13:04
Speaker 3: kind of says, if we want this to continue, we
1:13:07
Speaker 3: have to reward a team like Texas for going out
1:13:10
Speaker 3: and playing that, because it's not like they haven't. This
1:13:13
Speaker 3: isn't like they're a four loss team, you know that
1:13:15
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden upset number three or beat
1:13:17
Speaker 3: a number three team. I mean, they have two losses
1:13:20
Speaker 3: in conference, and one was a bad one, but other
1:13:23
Speaker 3: than that, the other the rest of their schedule looks
1:13:26
Speaker 3: like they've done fairly.
1:13:27
Speaker 13: Well, really well, and they've played five top ten teams.
1:13:31
Speaker 13: I mean, the facts of the matter are they look
1:13:35
Speaker 13: like a championship caliber team on Friday night, and as
1:13:39
Speaker 13: you're sitting there going are there eleven better teams than them?
1:13:42
Speaker 13: Are twelve better teams than them? The answer is probably
1:13:45
Speaker 13: not based on that showing, but the fact that they
1:13:48
Speaker 13: lost three games is going to knock them out. Well,
1:13:52
Speaker 13: they lost the third game by virtue of playing a
1:13:55
Speaker 13: game in week one, which we are going to now
1:13:58
Speaker 13: spend a lot of time focusing on, and yet we
1:14:00
Speaker 13: won't focus on another game in week one where Miami
1:14:04
Speaker 13: beat Notre Dame because we just like Notre Dame. I
1:14:08
Speaker 13: don't get that.
1:14:10
Speaker 1: Will Alabama if they lose on Saturday? Are you in
1:14:15
Speaker 1: the camp of I don't think they should be penalized
1:14:19
Speaker 1: because they earn the right to play an additional game
1:14:22
Speaker 1: and have to play Georgia second time? Or do you
1:14:24
Speaker 1: think a third loss regardless of when it came, considering
1:14:28
Speaker 1: how much stiff competition is there to try to get
1:14:31
Speaker 1: into this loaded tournament, do you think that it will
1:14:35
Speaker 1: cost them their spot.
1:14:38
Speaker 13: Again with so many people knocking at the door. I
1:14:41
Speaker 13: don't want to tell Caitlin de Bor there's no risk here.
1:14:45
Speaker 13: I think there is risk, especially now if you told
1:14:48
Speaker 13: me the game was they lose by a field goal
1:14:50
Speaker 13: in overtime, I think they're fine. If you tell me
1:14:54
Speaker 13: they get beat like Texas got beat thirty five to ten,
1:14:56
Speaker 13: even though it was fourteen to ten going to the
1:14:59
Speaker 13: fourth quarter. I think they're in harm's way because if
1:15:04
Speaker 13: BYU wins the Big Twelve Championship, they're in. Does Texas
1:15:10
Speaker 13: Tech fall out? Probably not, And that is where you
1:15:14
Speaker 13: could slide Alabama out. So these are the.
1:15:18
Speaker 4: Kind of things you do.
1:15:20
Speaker 13: You know, there's a number of people pushing for Vanderbilt,
1:15:23
Speaker 13: there's a number of people pushing for Miami. You might
1:15:26
Speaker 13: solve the Miami issue with that move, right, So it's
1:15:31
Speaker 13: not a safe place to be if you're Alabama.
1:15:34
Speaker 2: Are you resigned to Miami, Vanderbilt in Texas not getting
1:15:38
Speaker 2: into this tournament no matter what unfolds.
1:15:42
Speaker 13: I am of the mind that those three teams are
1:15:45
Speaker 13: going to be very, very disappointed. The only chance they
1:15:49
Speaker 13: have is a Alabama loss.
1:15:56
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, you mentioned Texas Tech. If they lose,
1:15:59
Speaker 3: do they lowed? I mean, I have a hard time
1:16:02
Speaker 3: seeing how there really are where they are considering. I mean,
1:16:06
Speaker 3: they lost to what Arizona State, that's their only loss, But.
1:16:09
Speaker 4: They haven't found their quarterback?
1:16:11
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but they haven't really they haven't really followed like,
1:16:14
Speaker 3: they haven't really beat anybody. I mean, they haven't really
1:16:16
Speaker 3: played that tough of a schedule, and yet they look
1:16:19
Speaker 3: like where they're sitting in the rankings going into tonight
1:16:21
Speaker 3: and into selection Sunday, they look like they're they maybe
1:16:25
Speaker 3: have a game to lose in a championship, in the
1:16:27
Speaker 3: conference championship.
1:16:30
Speaker 13: They are absolutely at the top of the heat. Defensively,
1:16:35
Speaker 13: they are. They blanked West Virginia this last weekend. Ohio
1:16:40
Speaker 13: State is number one in the country in terms of
1:16:43
Speaker 13: points allowed. Texas Tech is number three. Ohio State is
1:16:49
Speaker 13: number one in yards allowed, Texas Tech is one I
1:16:54
Speaker 13: guess number six. So they are unique and clearly the
1:16:58
Speaker 13: best team in the Big twelve defensively. So I think
1:17:02
Speaker 13: the reason that they're kind of getting this kind that
1:17:05
Speaker 13: they've just been bludgeoning teams curre of late.
1:17:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brick new Isisla's with us our college football inside
1:17:11
Speaker 1: of course, former you'd have head coach and joins us
1:17:13
Speaker 1: every Tuesday thanks to Taco time to get it all
1:17:15
Speaker 1: over ourselves. That's how much college football is just a
1:17:18
Speaker 1: beautiful mess right now. A lot of things to discuss,
1:17:22
Speaker 1: and one of those things we have to discuss with
1:17:24
Speaker 1: you is Lane Kiffin. I think it is embarrassing that
1:17:28
Speaker 1: we have all this exciting stuff going on for college
1:17:31
Speaker 1: football and a prominent face in the game, doesn't think
1:17:37
Speaker 1: coaching in the tournament is more important than a little
1:17:41
Speaker 1: extra money and a better situation for himself immediately. I
1:17:44
Speaker 1: think he could have gotten it either way if he
1:17:46
Speaker 1: just coaches out the season like we do in the
1:17:49
Speaker 1: National Football League. Nobody leaves before the playoffs begin. So
1:17:52
Speaker 1: I would just ask you your assessment of the Kiffin
1:17:55
Speaker 1: situation and how you would fix it so that we
1:17:58
Speaker 1: don't have another coach ever do this again and make
1:18:01
Speaker 1: it look like the postseason doesn't mean anything.
1:18:05
Speaker 13: Well, I'm with you that it is a tragic situation
1:18:09
Speaker 13: for the kids at Ole miss And I don't know
1:18:12
Speaker 13: what will become of their offensive staff they. I know
1:18:16
Speaker 13: that Charlie Strong or excuse me, Charlie Weis junior, got
1:18:21
Speaker 13: on the plane with Lane. I don't know if he's
1:18:24
Speaker 13: going back to help with the game planning. I don't
1:18:27
Speaker 13: have any idea. I know Joe Judge state that's the
1:18:30
Speaker 13: only offensive coach that stayed. And Lane may be, you know,
1:18:35
Speaker 13: mad at the fact that Keith Carter, the athletic director
1:18:38
Speaker 13: at Mississis, Mississippi, told him he can't have it both ways.
1:18:42
Speaker 13: You can't stay and finish and go to LSU. So
1:18:46
Speaker 13: he might be saying to his offensive staff, you can't
1:18:49
Speaker 13: go back either, and you know, playing that that that
1:18:52
Speaker 13: kind of tough guy stuff. It's a shame and it
1:18:55
Speaker 13: should never happen and it's not hard to fix. We
1:18:58
Speaker 13: just have to change the calendar. We have to get
1:19:01
Speaker 13: college football to understand there are ways to do this.
1:19:04
Speaker 13: And what we're doing tomorrow, guys, is signing Day.
1:19:08
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.
1:19:09
Speaker 13: Yeah, that we're having a signing day tomorrow. I mean
1:19:13
Speaker 13: a year ago people were out on the road. Right now,
1:19:16
Speaker 13: they at least figured out how to make December dead.
1:19:19
Speaker 13: All we have to do is put signing bait Day
1:19:21
Speaker 13: back in February, move the transfer portal back to the
1:19:25
Speaker 13: end of April early May, and you build your team
1:19:30
Speaker 13: from there and that's your fiscal year begins. You know
1:19:32
Speaker 13: what would be the disadvantage? The coaches would say, well,
1:19:35
Speaker 13: then I don't get to put my team together in
1:19:37
Speaker 13: this spring semester. Well, the team getting put together in
1:19:41
Speaker 13: the spring semester is all well and fine, except for
1:19:44
Speaker 13: those teams that are still playing they have to actually
1:19:48
Speaker 13: deal with a transfer portal at the same time they're
1:19:50
Speaker 13: playing for the semi finals. It's ludicrous that we can't
1:19:54
Speaker 13: wait for it all to happen. And the facts of
1:19:56
Speaker 13: the matter is, you can put your team together and
1:19:59
Speaker 13: starting in May all the way through the summer months
1:20:01
Speaker 13: in anticipation of the season. It makes sense. It might
1:20:06
Speaker 13: be a little bit of a concession of an off season,
1:20:08
Speaker 13: but given the amount of time hours that we're working
1:20:11
Speaker 13: and kids are spending doing football, it might be nice
1:20:14
Speaker 13: to have a little bit of off time during the
1:20:17
Speaker 13: winter months.
1:20:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I.
1:20:18
Speaker 13: Think we can fix this. I can think we can
1:20:20
Speaker 13: fix it quickly and just take some people that are
1:20:24
Speaker 13: committed to doing so to get in a room and
1:20:26
Speaker 13: get it done.
1:20:28
Speaker 2: Why are they not? I mean, I'm with you, it's not.
1:20:31
Speaker 3: I mean, but the personal issues aside from you know,
1:20:34
Speaker 3: just kind of walking away from.
1:20:38
Speaker 13: The athletic directors of the world want to transfer portal
1:20:41
Speaker 13: at the end of the spring. They want it there.
1:20:43
Speaker 13: The coaches are the ones that want to know exactly
1:20:46
Speaker 13: who's on my team and have a year to build
1:20:48
Speaker 13: their cultures and all that stuff. The fact of the
1:20:51
Speaker 13: matter is, if we all had the same amount of time,
1:20:54
Speaker 13: we'd all there'd be no disadvantage, And there's plenty of
1:20:57
Speaker 13: time to get this done, and this idea that we
1:20:59
Speaker 13: have to be three hundred and sixty five days a
1:21:01
Speaker 13: year of football is nonsensical. People know how to use
1:21:05
Speaker 13: the weight room, people know how to go out and
1:21:07
Speaker 13: build build cultures. We can use weight rooms and we
1:21:10
Speaker 13: can have all this offseason time that it can still
1:21:15
Speaker 13: be productive. It might not be as much team building,
1:21:18
Speaker 13: but you know what, then kids actually can go to school.
1:21:21
Speaker 4: When was the last.
1:21:22
Speaker 13: Time you guys heard of anybody being academically ineligible in
1:21:26
Speaker 13: college football? N't do it anymore.
1:21:28
Speaker 2: Don't do it.
1:21:29
Speaker 13: We don't do it anymore. We are building professional teams,
1:21:32
Speaker 13: and I would like to reintroduce these kids to college.
1:21:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh amen, amen preaching. Rick new Isiale is with us,
1:21:39
Speaker 1: our college football insider. Well, let's get the conference championship Saturday.
1:21:44
Speaker 1: I've already gone as far as saying I think Georgia
1:21:46
Speaker 1: is gonna win by ten over Alabama. How do you
1:21:49
Speaker 1: see that game going?
1:21:51
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go the other way.
1:21:52
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:21:52
Speaker 13: I think the Alabama boys believe they can beat Georgia.
1:21:57
Speaker 13: They've done it time and time again. Kaylan Devor's two
1:22:01
Speaker 13: to zero against Kirby Smart wearing the script day. I
1:22:06
Speaker 13: just think he and Ryan Grebb will come up with
1:22:08
Speaker 13: another plan that confounds Georgia. And as much as Georgia
1:22:12
Speaker 13: has been playing great of late, and they have and
1:22:15
Speaker 13: to be credited h and I still think Gunner Stockton's
1:22:18
Speaker 13: got an outside chance to win the Heisman if he
1:22:21
Speaker 13: has a yeoman performance in this game. As I still
1:22:25
Speaker 13: see this team as vulnerable without a great pass rush,
1:22:29
Speaker 13: and if you're not putting Ty Simpson on a spot,
1:22:31
Speaker 13: I think Ryan Grebb, Kaylan de Boor and Ty Simpson
1:22:35
Speaker 13: can concoct the plan with those great receivers that can
1:22:38
Speaker 13: beat Georgia.
1:22:39
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has good that much better than BYU like
1:22:43
Speaker 1: they showed during the regular season.
1:22:45
Speaker 2: Or will this one be at least tighter.
1:22:47
Speaker 13: I think it'll be tighter, but I still think there's
1:22:50
Speaker 13: such an advantage with the Texas Tech defense that it
1:22:54
Speaker 13: will not be a different outcome. I'm going to take
1:22:56
Speaker 13: Texas Tech and remember the games in Arlington, Texas, so
1:22:59
Speaker 13: you're gonna have a lot of Red Raider fans there.
1:23:01
Speaker 1: Indiana Ohio State one versus two Man. We've been waiting
1:23:07
Speaker 1: a long time to figure out which of these two
1:23:09
Speaker 1: teams is better so you tell me before the game starts,
1:23:12
Speaker 1: which of these two teams is better.
1:23:14
Speaker 13: I'm going to take Ohio State Matt Patricia's defense and
1:23:18
Speaker 13: the fact that Julian's saying is like the new Robin Hood.
1:23:21
Speaker 13: I mean he can get a hundred paces away and
1:23:24
Speaker 13: take an arrow out and hit an apple. I mean
1:23:27
Speaker 13: his downfield accuracy is off the charts. And when you
1:23:32
Speaker 13: do that with guys like Carnel Tate and Jeremiah Smith,
1:23:35
Speaker 13: who are open more often than not, it's something to behold.
1:23:39
Speaker 13: I love the Indiana story. The question is can they
1:23:42
Speaker 13: stay close enough to get a bye?
1:23:45
Speaker 1: Wait, he'll say it hits puberty. I mean he looks
1:23:47
Speaker 1: like he's six years old. Finally, Virginia versus Duke, I mean,
1:23:51
Speaker 1: is there a chance that the ACC is not going
1:23:54
Speaker 1: to be represented in the tournament this year at all?
1:23:58
Speaker 13: There is a chance this typer making a mechanism that
1:24:01
Speaker 13: the ACC had and this got all the way down
1:24:05
Speaker 13: to the fifth tiebreaker.
1:24:07
Speaker 4: Which put Duke into the end of the.
1:24:09
Speaker 13: Game, could come back to bite him. My feeling is
1:24:13
Speaker 13: that if Duke wins this game, and they certainly can.
1:24:18
Speaker 13: If Duke wins this game, they'll still get in as
1:24:21
Speaker 13: the twelve seeds, because this committee is comprised of at
1:24:25
Speaker 13: least half of them being athletic directors, and as at
1:24:30
Speaker 13: athletic directors, they do not want to deprive the ACC
1:24:34
Speaker 13: of playoff money. They just don't want to do it.
1:24:39
Speaker 13: They'll see this as we can call this strength of
1:24:41
Speaker 13: schedule and then talk out of both sides of our mouth,
1:24:45
Speaker 13: as the committee is prone to do, and just say
1:24:47
Speaker 13: the strength of schedule in the ACC is superior to
1:24:50
Speaker 13: that of the Sun Belt and they can keep Old
1:24:53
Speaker 13: keep James Madison from getting in. That's my take.
1:25:00
Speaker 1: So am I to assume based off of your reactions
1:25:03
Speaker 1: to these games that we just ripped through, I'm feeling
1:25:07
Speaker 1: like your Taco Time pick of the week is the
1:25:10
Speaker 1: game that I'm going against. Is that right? Is Alabama
1:25:13
Speaker 1: your Taco Time pick of the week.
1:25:16
Speaker 13: No, I think that line is too That time line
1:25:19
Speaker 13: is too close. I'm taking the Ohio State Buckeyes. Okay,
1:25:23
Speaker 13: all right, I'm laying five and a half and I'm
1:25:25
Speaker 13: counting on Matt to Patricia. You know, he's given up
1:25:28
Speaker 13: ninety three points on the year. They're the only team
1:25:30
Speaker 13: of the one hundred and thirty six fbist teams that
1:25:33
Speaker 13: has given up less than one hundred. I think Indiana
1:25:37
Speaker 13: sends it over the century mark, but not by much.
1:25:40
Speaker 1: You know, this is a sports is such a copycat thing.
1:25:44
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this in Michigan, Ohio State with
1:25:46
Speaker 1: Patricia on one side, wing Martindale on the other. Have
1:25:50
Speaker 1: they just brought the NFL sophistication defense sophistication to the
1:25:54
Speaker 1: college game? And now do you think that other programs
1:25:58
Speaker 1: are going to try to copy it just to get
1:26:00
Speaker 1: some NFL guy that's not quite working at the National
1:26:03
Speaker 1: Football League level anymore, but his his system is more
1:26:06
Speaker 1: advanced than most of the college defensive coordinators. Is that
1:26:10
Speaker 1: something that's real?
1:26:13
Speaker 13: I listen, what we know about college football is it
1:26:18
Speaker 13: definitely is copycat and what works for one team. I mean,
1:26:22
Speaker 13: look at James Madison, Bob Chesney's now going to UCLA. Yeah,
1:26:27
Speaker 13: you don't think they're trying to hire Kurt Signetti again,
1:26:30
Speaker 13: They certainly are. Yeah, And so yeah, if you see
1:26:35
Speaker 13: a trend happening, you're going to chase it. Kenny Dillingham
1:26:40
Speaker 13: was the coordinator at Oregon for Dan Lanning. Arizona State's
1:26:44
Speaker 13: doing well. Will Stein now on his way to Kentucky.
1:26:48
Speaker 13: We're trying to catch a little lightning in a bottle
1:26:50
Speaker 13: and at least we can sell that to the folks
1:26:53
Speaker 13: that are going to supply the money for our programs.
1:26:55
Speaker 1: Wow, that was a lot of ground we had to
1:26:57
Speaker 1: We didn't get into you, Dubbs, So we'll talk about
1:26:59
Speaker 1: Jetfish is the second year with you next week. Thank you, sir,
1:27:03
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Enjoy all the.
1:27:05
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