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The Dry Folder at Dawn: How a Stranger Unmasked Seventeen Procedures · Dark Psychology: The Control Game

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  Speaker 1: The briefcase was sitting upright on the riverbank, dry combination
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  Speaker 1: locks set to zero on both dials. The river had
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  Speaker 1: crested the night before, the dew had not yet formed.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever put it there had a window of roughly ninety minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Becker had been running trot lines below the Route
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  Speaker 1: nine bridge on the Caldwell River every Tuesday and Thursday
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  Speaker 1: for eleven years. He knew that bank the way a
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  Speaker 1: person knows their own kitchen floor. He saw the briefcase
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  Speaker 1: at first light on September fourteenth, twenty nineteen. He took
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  Speaker 1: a photograph before he touched it. Then he called the
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  Speaker 1: Harwick County Sheriff's office. Inside were fourteen documents, a marriage certificate,
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  Speaker 1: a prenuptial agreement, two property transferred deeds, a life insurance policy,
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  Speaker 1: and a nine page notarized divorce settlement, dated September nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, nineteen five days in the UK future. The
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  Speaker 1: man whose name appeared on every page had no idea
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  Speaker 1: any of it existed. That detail stopped everyone who read
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  Speaker 1: the file. A document signed by a man who had
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  Speaker 1: never seen it, dated for a week that hadn't happened yet,
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  Speaker 1: found in a briefcase on a riverbank, dry in a
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  Speaker 1: window of ninety minutes. None of it made sense, in
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  Speaker 1: the way that only very deliberate things don't make sense.
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  Speaker 1: What followed was not a chase or a confession extracted
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  Speaker 1: under lights. It was something slower and more unsettling, the
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  Speaker 1: reconstruction of how one person's reality had been quietly, legally
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  Speaker 1: systematically taken apart, peace by peace, Thursday by Thursday. Michael
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  Speaker 1: Peterson was twenty four years old in January of twenty
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  Speaker 1: seventeen when his grandmother died and left him the house
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  Speaker 1: on Sycamore Lane. It was a three bedroom craftsman the
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  Speaker 1: kind of house that accumulates a family's history in the
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  Speaker 1: grain of the floorboards and the weight of the back door.
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  Speaker 1: He was a logistics dispatcher, not a wealthy man, but
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  Speaker 1: the house was his that mattered. He had a routine
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  Speaker 1: most people who are later described as targets do. Every
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  Speaker 1: Thursday morning, at seven fifteen, Michael walked into Patsy's Diner
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  Speaker 1: and took booth four. Tracy Fenn, who had worked the
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  Speaker 1: morning shift there for years, knew his order before he
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  Speaker 1: sat down. He was the kind of regular who didn't
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  Speaker 1: need a menu, the kind who made a place feel
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  Speaker 1: like a neighborhood instead of just a building. He met
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  Speaker 1: Sandra Oates in the spring of twenty seventeen. By October
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  Speaker 1: of that same year, they were married. What Michael did
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  Speaker 1: not know, and would not know for more than two years,
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  Speaker 1: was that a fifty one year old divorce attorney named
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Snyder had been aware of the Sycamore Lane inheritance
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  Speaker 1: before Sandra ever introduced herself. Snyder's office sat on Court
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  Speaker 1: Street in Harwick, Illinois. He specialized in divorce. He understood,
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  Speaker 1: with the precision that comes from long practice, exactly what
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  Speaker 1: an inherited property means inside a marriage, and exactly what
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  Speaker 1: paperwork could make a change hands. Sandra had met Snyder
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  Speaker 1: fourteen months before she met Michael. The record that emerged
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  Speaker 1: later and the conclusions drawn by investigators, did not describe
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  Speaker 1: her as an architect. They described her as someone financially
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  Speaker 1: desperate recruited into a scheme already designed before she arrived.
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  Speaker 1: The scheme had a shape. It had been used before.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, a man named Dennis Kroll had a
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  Speaker 1: civil outcome connected to Snyder's work. In twenty fifteen, a
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  Speaker 1: woman named Patricia here did as well. No criminal charges
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  Speaker 1: were filed in either case. No one in Harwick connected
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  Speaker 1: the pattern because in Harwick Marvin Snyder was a divorce
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  Speaker 1: attorney with an office on Court Street, a man who
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  Speaker 1: filed paperwork for a living. Three weeks after Michael and
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  Speaker 1: Sandra's wedding, Michael signed a prenuptial agreement. He was unrepresented.
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  Speaker 1: Snyder had prepared the document. One provision buried inside it
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  Speaker 1: stated that the Sycamore Lane property would transfer to Sandra
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  Speaker 1: in the event of a divorce occurring within seven years,
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  Speaker 1: on the grounds that she had contributed substantially to the
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  Speaker 1: home's maintenance and improvement. She had not, The document said otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Sandra was coached by phone while Michael was in the shower.
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  Speaker 1: He signed when he came back. There is a particular
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  Speaker 1: kind of harm that leaves no bruise. It moves through
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  Speaker 1: notary seals and signature lines. It uses the architecture of
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  Speaker 1: legality as its instrument. By the spring of two thousand eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: Sandra had assumed control of the couple's joint finances. Within
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  Speaker 1: four months, Michael had been removed from two accounts. By
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: spring of twenty nineteen, something had shifted in Michael without
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  Speaker 1: him fully understanding why. He stopped going to Patsy's Diner.
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  Speaker 1: For six weeks. Booth four sat empty on Thursday mornings.
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  Speaker 1: Tracy Fenn noticed. She didn't know what it meant. She
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  Speaker 1: just knew he wasn't there. He came back eventually, he
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  Speaker 1: always had before. That was the part Marvin Snyder was
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  Speaker 1: counting on. The briefcase came back from the river dry.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first wrong thing. Michael Becker had run
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  Speaker 1: trot lines below the Route nine bridge for eleven years.
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  Speaker 1: He knew what the Caldwell River did to things left
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  Speaker 1: on its bank overnight. The river had crested the evening before.
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  Speaker 1: By morning of September fourteenth, two thousand nineteen, anything left
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  Speaker 1: there should have been soaked, muddy, pulled sideways by the
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  Speaker 1: receding water. The briefcase was upright, Its surface was clean.
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  Speaker 1: Both combination locks were set to zero. Becker photographed it
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  Speaker 1: before he touched it. Then he called the Harwick County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office. Deputy Karen Hollis was the one who opened it.
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  Speaker 1: Inside she found fourteen documents, a marriage certificate, a prenuptial agreement,
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  Speaker 1: two property transfer deeds, a life insurance policy, and a
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  Speaker 1: nine page notarized divorce settlement dated September nineteenth, two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen five days in the future. The settlement bore a
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  Speaker 1: notary seal. It carried a man's signature on every page.
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  Speaker 1: That man had no idea any of it existed. Deputy
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  Speaker 1: Hollis ran the documents and reached out to Elaine Marsh,
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  Speaker 1: a licensed notary had a Route twelve office supply. Marsh
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  Speaker 1: confirmed she had not arised a property appraisal for a
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  Speaker 1: man named Snyder, approximately three weeks before the briefcase was found.
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  Speaker 1: She had not notarized a divorce settlement. She had never
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  Speaker 1: seen those pages, but the seal number on that nine
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  Speaker 1: page document was her. Someone had taken her seal number
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  Speaker 1: from a legitimate document and replicated it onto a fraudulent one.
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  Speaker 2: There is a particular word.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators use for that forgery. But the question that Deputy
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  Speaker 1: Hollis could not yet answer was simpler and more urgent.
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  Speaker 1: Whose name was on that insurance policy. The beneficiary line
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  Speaker 1: read Sandra Snyder, not Sandra Oates, not Sandra Peterson, which
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  Speaker 1: was the name she had been using since October twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: Sandra Snyder, the same last name as the attorney whose
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  Speaker 1: office address matched the address of the insurance agent who
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  Speaker 1: had submitted the application in January twenty nineteen. That was
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  Speaker 1: not a clerical error. A clerical error is a transposed digit.
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  Speaker 1: This was a name that belonged to a specific person,
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  Speaker 1: a person who was not the spouse listed on any
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  Speaker 1: legal document Michael Peterson had signed. The insurance application had
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  Speaker 1: been submitted eight months before the briefcase turned off up
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  Speaker 1: in the river. Michael's signature appeared on it. Forensic handwriting
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  Speaker 1: analysis confirmed that signature had not been written freehand.
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  Speaker 2: It had been traced.
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  Speaker 1: The source of the tracing was the prenuptial agreement, the
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  Speaker 1: document Marvin Snyder had prepared, the one Michael had signed
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  Speaker 1: three weeks after his wedding while Sandra listened by phone.
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  Speaker 1: One signature used twice, once in December twenty seventeen to
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  Speaker 1: establish the terms of the marriage, once in January twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: to establish who would collect if Michael died. The night
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  Speaker 1: before the briefcase was found, Angela Peterson made a phone call.
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  Speaker 1: Angela was Michael's sister. She worked as apparently legal. She
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  Speaker 1: had been helping a colleague review an unrelated insurance file.
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  Speaker 1: When something in the document format looked familiar, she pulled
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  Speaker 1: Michael's policy. She read the beneficiary line. She called her brother.
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  Speaker 1: It was the evening of September thirteenth, twenty nineteen. What
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  Speaker 1: happened and next is where the architecture of the scheme
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  Speaker 1: began to fracture. Sandra received a call. The record of
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  Speaker 1: that call exists shortly after Marvin Snyder.
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  Speaker 2: Drove to the Caldwell River.
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  Speaker 1: The forensic reconstruction of the briefcase's placement dry surface upright
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  Speaker 1: position after the river crested before morning dew formed gives
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  Speaker 1: a window of approximately ninety minutes between roughly eleven at
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  Speaker 1: night and twelve thirty.
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  Speaker 2: In the morning. He left it there.
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  Speaker 1: What he expected to happen Next is the detail that
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  Speaker 1: requires a moment to hold the settlement inside that briefcase
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  Speaker 1: was dated five days forward. It would have transferred the
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  Speaker 1: Sycamore Lane property to Sandra under the terms of the
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  Speaker 1: prenuptial agreement Snyder had written.
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  Speaker 2: It would have dissolved the marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Michael's signature was already on it, traced as with the
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  Speaker 1: insurance application from the original prenuptial document the policy would
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  Speaker 1: have paid to a a name that pointed directly back
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  Speaker 1: to Snyder.
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  Speaker 2: He was not hiding the briefcase. He was abandoning.
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  Speaker 1: Panic does that it makes a careful plan collapse into
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  Speaker 1: its own parts. There is something worth sitting with In
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  Speaker 1: that image, a fifty one year old attorney standing on
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  Speaker 1: the bank of the Caldwell River at midnight, setting down
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  Speaker 1: a leather briefcase with the combination locks at zero, walking
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  Speaker 1: back to his car. What he believed in that moment
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  Speaker 1: is not recorded, but the evidence suggests he believed the
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  Speaker 1: river would handle the rest. The river did not cooperate.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Becker founded before dawn. By the time Snyder was
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  Speaker 1: aware the briefcase had been recovered, Deputy Hollis had already
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  Speaker 1: run the notary seal. What unraveled after that was not gradual.
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  Speaker 2: It was a sequence.
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  Speaker 1: The insurance agent's address matched Snyder's building on Court Street.
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  Speaker 1: The beneficiary name connected Snyder to the policy directly. A
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  Speaker 1: lame Marsh confirmed the seal number as Hers, and confirmed
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  Speaker 1: she had never seen the settlement. Diane Watson, a licensed
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  Speaker 1: private investigator retained by Angela, identified the pattern. Dennis Kroll
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. Patricia Hearn in two thousand fifteen
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  Speaker 1: civil outcomes with no criminal charges, no names connected publicly
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  Speaker 1: to Snyder's Watson called it a legal wrapper. The scheme
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  Speaker 1: was not designed to intimidate. It was designed to process
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  Speaker 1: a person through the court system before they understood what
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  Speaker 1: was happening. Pictured the prenuptial agreement the way Snyder designed
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  Speaker 1: it to function. A young man twenty four years old, unrepresented,
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  Speaker 1: comes back from the shower.
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  Speaker 2: His new wife is in the room. A document is
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  Speaker 2: on the table. He signs it.
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  Speaker 1: He does not read the provision about Sycamore Lane, because
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  Speaker 1: why would he. This is a man whose grandmother left
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  Speaker 1: him a house, who eats breakfast at Booth four every Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: who has no reason to believe the attorney preparing his
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  Speaker 1: paperwork is also the man who introduced his wife to
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  Speaker 1: him as part of a scheme begun fourteen months.
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  Speaker 2: Before they met. That version of events.
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  Speaker 1: Snyder as the hidden architect, Sandra as the recruited participant,
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  Speaker 1: holds up against most of the evidence. The traced signatures
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  Speaker 1: connect both documents to Snyder's office. The beneficiary name confirms
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  Speaker 1: the policy was never intended to benefit the spouse.
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  Speaker 2: In the marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Watson's pattern connects it to prior civil outcomes. The scheme
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  Speaker 1: had a shape, and that shape fit. But here is
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  Speaker 1: where the evidence introduces a complication that the neat version
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  Speaker 1: cannot absorb. Tracy Fenn, the waitress at Patsy's Diner, remembered
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  Speaker 1: something she had not initially mentioned. In early September two
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  Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, two consecutive Thursdays, a man she had never
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  Speaker 1: seen before sat in Booth four. He was in his
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  Speaker 1: mid fifties. He carried a leather briefcase. He ordered coffee,
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  Speaker 1: and sat for approximately forty minutes each time, watching the door.
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  Speaker 1: Michael came in both mornings. He sat in his usual booth,
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  Speaker 1: a different one because his booth was taken.
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  Speaker 2: He did not speak to the man.
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  Speaker 1: Snyder was fifty one in two thousand seventeen. By early
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  Speaker 1: September two thousand nineteen, he was fifty three. Tracy's description fit.
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  Speaker 1: The detail that does not resolve easily is the purpose
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  Speaker 1: of those two visits. The settlement was already prepared, the
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  Speaker 1: signatures were already traced. Snyder did not need to surveil
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  Speaker 1: Michael's routine to execute the paperwork. He had access to
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  Speaker 1: every document he What those two Thursday mornings suggest is
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  Speaker 1: something the forensic record cannot confirm, but the pattern implies
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  Speaker 1: Snyder was not there to gather information. He was there
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  Speaker 1: to watch what he was about to take. A man
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  Speaker 1: who files paperwork for a living sitting in the booth
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  Speaker 1: that belonged to some one else with a briefcase full
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  Speaker 1: of documents dated five days into a future he had
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  Speaker 1: already written. Angela's phone call ended that future before it began.
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  Speaker 1: One paralegal reading a beneficiary line on a standard insurance
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  Speaker 1: form recognized a name that should not have been there.
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  Speaker 1: The entire structure, the prenuptial provision, the traced signatures, the
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  Speaker 1: forged seal, the future dated settlement rested on Michael never
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  Speaker 1: knowing to look. He did not look. His sister did.
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  Speaker 1: That is the only difference between the outcome that occurred
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  Speaker 1: and the one Snyder had already written into nine pages
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  Speaker 1: of notarized paper. The briefcase stayed in the Harwick County
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  Speaker 1: evidence locker through the full trial. Both combination locks remained
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  Speaker 1: set to zero. The September twenty twenty trial began without
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  Speaker 1: a confession. It began with documents. On the fourth day
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution placed a forensic handwriting overlay on the screen,
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  Speaker 1: a side by side comparison of Michael's death genuine signature
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  Speaker 1: and the traced version that appeared on the insurance application.
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  Speaker 1: The signatures did not merely resemble each other. They aligned
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  Speaker 1: point for point, pressure grew for pressure groove because one
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  Speaker 1: had been made by holding a pen over the other
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  Speaker 1: and copying every curve in the original. Snyder requested a recess.
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  Speaker 1: He confessed in full. During that break. He described how
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  Speaker 1: he had obtained Michael's signature from the prenuptial agreement. He
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  Speaker 1: described the insurance policy, the property transferred deeds, the future
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  Speaker 1: dated settlement. He described Sandra's role as someone he had
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  Speaker 1: recruited because she was financially desperate, not because she was
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  Speaker 1: the architect. The jury heard his confession and convicted him regardless.
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  Speaker 1: The record did not require his admission. The documents made
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  Speaker 1: the case on their own. The convictions covered forgery, fraud,
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  Speaker 1: wire fraud, unlawful practice, and conflict of interest. He had
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  Speaker 1: prepared legal documents for a man who did not know
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  Speaker 1: he was represented by an adversary. That last charge, conflict
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  Speaker 1: of interest, is the one that names what this case
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  Speaker 1: actually was Every piece of paper in that briefcase was
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  Speaker 1: produced by an attorney working against his own client's interests
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  Speaker 1: under a scheme he had tested twice before and refined.
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Snyder was disbarred. He was sentenced to eleven years.
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  Speaker 1: Sandra Oates had already co operated with prosecutors. The previous October,
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  Speaker 1: she pleaded no contest to a reduced fraud charge. The
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  Speaker 1: civil liability attached to her covered the insurance policy and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the account transfers, the two financial mechanisms that had been
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: moving Michael's money outward since Spring two thy eighteen. She
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: received probation. The record contextualizes her as financially desperate and recruited.
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  Speaker 1: The court treated her recordingly. She has had no contact
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  Speaker 1: with Michael Peterson since. The Sycamore Lane house stayed with Michael.
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  Speaker 1: The prenuptial provision, the clause that would have transferred the
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  Speaker 1: property to Sandra if divorce occurred within seven years, was voided,
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  Speaker 1: along with everything Snyder had prepared. The house his grandmother
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  Speaker 1: left him in January twenty seventeen remained where it had
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: always been, three bedrooms on Sycamore Lane, untransferred. The briefcase
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: remained in the Harwick County evidence locker through the full trial.
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  Speaker 1: Both combination locks were still set to zero when the
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  Speaker 1: trial concluded. There is a detail from this case that
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  Speaker 1: takes a moment to settle. Michael Peterson did not know
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  Speaker 1: he was being dismantled. He noticed things a growing distance,
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  Speaker 1: a pattern of decisions that seemed to originate with Sandra,
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  Speaker 1: but that he could not fully locate or name. He
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: stopped going to Booth four for six weeks in the
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  Speaker 1: spring of two thousand nineteen. That is the clearest record
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  Speaker 1: of what gas lighting looks like from the outside. A
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  Speaker 1: man who had sat in the same booth every Thursday
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  Speaker 1: for years quietly disappeared from his own routine because his
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  Speaker 1: sense of what was real had been worn down to
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  Speaker 1: the point where a diner booth no longer felt.
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  Speaker 2: Like a stable place to sit. He came back.
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  Speaker 1: He came back because the structure Snyder built around him
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  Speaker 1: required him to believe his own disorientation was the problem.
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  Speaker 1: He had not been disordered, He had been read. In
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  Speaker 1: November twenty nineteen, the Thursday after Snyder's arrest was announced
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  Speaker 1: in the Harwick Courier, Michael walked into Patsy's Diner Tracy
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  Speaker 1: Fenn put the coffee down before he reached Booth four.
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  Speaker 1: She already knew his order. She had always known his order.
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  Speaker 1: The booth had been his every Thursday for years, except
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: for the two mornings a man with a briefcase had
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  Speaker 1: sat in it and the six weeks Michael had stayed away.
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  Speaker 1: He sat down, the coffee was there. That is what
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  Speaker 1: the wreck closes on. Not a verdict, not a sentence,
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  Speaker 1: not a disbarment. Hearing a man returning to a Thursday
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  Speaker 1: morning he had been methodically separated from, and a waitress
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  Speaker 1: who set the cup down without being asked, because some
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  Speaker 1: things do not require explanation once the interference is gone.
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  Speaker 1: What this case documents is the specific architecture of how
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  Speaker 1: one person's reality is dismantled by another. It is not dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: It is procedural. It happens in the language of legal
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  Speaker 1: forms and notary seals and signature overlays, and it depends
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  Speaker 1: entirely on the target. Never knowing to look, Michael did
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not look. His sister did. A fisherman running trot lines
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  Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning found a briefcase that should not
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  Speaker 1: have been there. A notary confirmed a seal she had
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  Speaker 1: never put on a settlement. A waitress remembered a man
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  Speaker 1: who sat in the wrong booth two thursdays.
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  Speaker 2: In a row. None of them were investigators.
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  Speaker 1: They were just people who noticed what was in front
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