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Was this the breakthrough Lando needed? Monaco GP Review · Pit Talk

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Speaker 1: Get a quote online today. This is the moment, then,
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Speaker 1: that we've all been waiting for for in a romax.
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Speaker 3: Here comes Oscar past three, Lando Norris.
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Speaker 1: I aren't playing hardball out there at the moment. Steve
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Speaker 1: pipercheol Moment of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Four, Hello and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you
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Speaker 2: by Shannon's. On today's episode, Lando Norris swins the Monaco
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Speaker 2: Grand Prix to shave his championship deficit to Oscar Piastre
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Speaker 2: to just three points and did the new two stop
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Speaker 2: pit stop r all work at all in Monte Carlo.
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Speaker 2: Matt Quaeton.
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Speaker 1: did it work at Monaco. No, but that would be
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Speaker 2: At least another twenty nine minutes to feel so there
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Speaker 2: is a little bit more to talk about than that.
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Speaker 3: But there is, of course the result as well. With
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Speaker 3: Monico Grand Prix.
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Speaker 2: Forget the fact that the race is typically was typically
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Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. Lando Norris wonder and that is significant. His
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Speaker 2: first Monaco Grand Pritty victory, his sixth degree victory and
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Speaker 2: a really important one in the sense of this championship.
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Speaker 2: Actually less about him winning, although that does shrink the
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Speaker 2: championship deficit.
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Speaker 3: But I think, as I've been saying a lot, or
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Speaker 3: only eight rounds.
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Speaker 2: In, it's probably a bit too early to be counting
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Speaker 2: points if it's less than a Grand Prix worth of points.
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Speaker 2: But qualifying on pole, and you know, at a circuit
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Speaker 2: where it is such a pressure moment to take pole
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Speaker 2: position in Q three, got three laps to do it,
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Speaker 2: They're already good, They're already complete.
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Speaker 3: This felt like a very important weekend from that perspective.
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Speaker 1: For him, Well, he hasn't had much momentum for a while,
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Speaker 1: has he. So I think that qualifying in caps related
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Speaker 1: everything about his weekend that he had poll lost it,
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Speaker 1: reclaimed it. Fantastic last two or three corners of that
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Speaker 1: lap when you go back and watch the end of it.
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Speaker 1: And that's been a McLaren's strength a we year in
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Speaker 1: terms of being able to have enough tire life for
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Speaker 1: the final sector or the final couple of corners. We
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Speaker 1: saw that in Australia. I mentioned Australia because that was
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Speaker 1: the last time Norris looked like the class of the field.
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Speaker 1: Since then, Piastre has had a run of wins. We've
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Speaker 1: had various max Fistappen interventions as the season has gone along,
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Speaker 1: but this is the first time Lando looked like he
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Speaker 1: was bossing Formula One again. And so much of this
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Speaker 1: race obviously is one on Saturday, but coming into this
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Speaker 1: weekend I wasn't sure that he was going to put
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Speaker 1: it together in that way on Saturday. Hugely impressive, but
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Speaker 1: in terms of redressing some of the momentum lost in
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Speaker 1: the series and also within his own team, really significant result.
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Speaker 1: And look, we're what one third of the way through
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Speaker 1: the longest season in the history of Formula One, as
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Speaker 1: we get told every year, so points tables as such
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Speaker 1: are not particularly relevant. What this does for momentum and continuity.
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Speaker 1: Getting him back to where he wasn't the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the season I think is almost more important.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also interesting as well.
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Speaker 2: You know it was ahead of this weekend he was
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Speaker 2: saying that the problems he's facing with this car could
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Speaker 2: take him not weeks, but maybe even months to fully
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Speaker 2: understand and return to that kind of qualifying form Worth
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Speaker 2: noting that after qualifying he said, look, this is one result.
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Speaker 2: As important as it is, it's one we've got to see.
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Speaker 2: If I can do this at multiple races is also
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Speaker 2: one very particular circuit. But as I think Andrea Stella said,
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Speaker 2: the mclarentine principle, there is no.
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Speaker 3: Stronger validation than Monaco for if you.
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Speaker 2: Can qualify in formul one, qualify well and like you say,
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Speaker 2: there's three laps is something that almost would have been
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Speaker 2: unimaginable at any.
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Speaker 3: Week since Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yes, because it's those last tens of a second that
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Speaker 2: he just hasn't found, and on three occasions he found them.
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Speaker 3: I think this could be.
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Speaker 2: It's also very interesting because it feels like a very
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Speaker 2: asymmetrical result, doesn't it, Because it's Norris making a lot
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Speaker 2: of gains and that potentially being significant in the championship
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Speaker 2: is maybe being a turning point. But I don't feel
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Speaker 2: like we can necessar read anything negative in Oscar Piastre's
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Speaker 2: weekend here. Yes, it was a bit of a scrappy
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Speaker 2: build up, messy round, as he said. But while I
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Speaker 2: think it is fair to say Norris's execution you can
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Speaker 2: take away from this because execution is the same at
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Speaker 2: any track, Monaco feels so particular that I'm not convinced
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Speaker 2: we can say that Piastre has lost anything this weekend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, particular is the correct word here, because look,
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Speaker 1: in isolation, this is a terrific weekend for Lando Norris,
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Speaker 1: you know, got back some of them are mentioned he'd
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Speaker 1: lost internally at McLaren since Piastre went on this run.
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Speaker 1: Because it is so particular, it's hard to really extrapolate
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Speaker 1: too much out of it in terms of what this
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Speaker 1: means going forward. I'm not sure this weekend bears no
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Speaker 1: relevance to any weekend, Let's be perfectly honest, even some
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Speaker 1: of the other tight street circuits we go to later
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Speaker 1: in the season, like Singapore, for example, Singapore and Monaco, yes,
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Speaker 1: they're both street tracks, but not all street tracks are
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Speaker 1: created equal. This is the outlier of out liars. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure. Piastre was a little of percentage points off
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Speaker 1: where he has been and it's been at such a
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Speaker 1: high level now for so many weekends. You know, he
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Speaker 1: used the word MESSI it was a little bit messy.
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Speaker 1: He also did to finish on the podium for the
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Speaker 1: seventh consecutive GROWNDBURI, So this is what constitutes a messy
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Speaker 1: weekend now. So these are the margins we're playing with.
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Speaker 1: So Norris definitely rose to the occasion, but I think
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Speaker 1: we probably need maybe a greater sample size to see
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Speaker 1: whether is he really back like the start of the season,
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Speaker 1: or is this an outlier based on track position, circuit
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Speaker 1: and just the peculiarities of the Monaco weekend because there
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Speaker 1: is nothing like this Grand Prix.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I like the idea that this could be viewed as
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Speaker 2: a leveler rather than a step forward for Norris and
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Speaker 2: now he's going to control the next furations. Obviously we
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Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe that's exactly what it will happen, but
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Speaker 2: I think it was easy to lose over the last
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Speaker 2: few rounds of the fact that these are two drivers
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Speaker 2: who are extremely closely matched, very different psychological makeups and
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Speaker 2: therefore some subtle differences in strengths and weaknesses.
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Speaker 3: But this should be a very tight battle between them.
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Speaker 2: We're now a third of the way of the season
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Speaker 2: and it's three points and it feels like that's about right.
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Speaker 1: But this is what I like about the way these
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Speaker 1: two guys go about it, and for anyone playing drinking
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Speaker 1: game at home with the podcast Styles make Fights, it's
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite expressions. I love the fact these
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Speaker 1: two guys have both got six Grand Prix wins now,
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Speaker 1: but you look at the way they go about it emotionally,
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Speaker 1: the body language of their cars have, the way they
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Speaker 1: deal with the press and the stress and the pressure
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Speaker 1: and everything that goes into making a Grand Prix weekend.
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Speaker 1: They come at it from such different angles a lot
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Speaker 1: of the time, racing the same car for the same
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Speaker 1: team and ending up three points between them and the championship.
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Speaker 1: It's almost a dead heater for eight rounds. It's going
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Speaker 1: to be the most interesting part of the rest of
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Speaker 1: the season for me. If they do have this baked
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Speaker 1: in car advantage, it's not going to be two guys
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Speaker 1: doing the same thing going head to head to see
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Speaker 1: who's better. I think they're both going to have their
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Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses depending on the circuit and the circumstances
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Speaker 1: of the weekend. And yeah, the styles that each of
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Speaker 1: these guys employees is going to make this more interesting
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Speaker 1: as we head through the rest of the season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel like just because although this will
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Speaker 2: be something will come to later in future weeks, just
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Speaker 2: because McLaren feels like it's got the upper hand.
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Speaker 3: I think it could still be a really great championship. Doll.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Ferrari now, Charlie Claire second
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Speaker 2: best result of the year for him, for the team.
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Speaker 2: He was in this great mixed emotional mood afterwards. I
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Speaker 2: think after qualifying second and after finishing second recognize on
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Speaker 2: the one hand that this is much better than Ferrari
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Speaker 2: had been expecting that they've achieved so far this year.
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Speaker 2: But to finish second at Monaco is very difficult, especially
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Speaker 2: when he had that great breakthrough victory at this home
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Speaker 2: race last season. He is, I think, more than almost
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Speaker 2: more than any driver at any track, lifts higher. I
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Speaker 2: can't think of another driver who lifts higher for any
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Speaker 2: track than he does at Monaco because he was special
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Speaker 2: to watch this weekend, would have been a deserving winner
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Speaker 2: and he somehow manufactured that result.
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Speaker 3: But what do we take away from Ferrari for this weekend?
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Speaker 2: Because it was a high water make even Lewis Hamilton
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Speaker 2: finished so distantly in fifth, was still pretty competitive over
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Speaker 2: the course of the weekend.
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Speaker 3: It was a qualifying penalty that really affected his rates.
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Speaker 3: Is this a good result for Ferrari? Good takeaway for Ferrari?
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Speaker 1: Look from how erratic that it's been. I don't think
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Speaker 1: you can look at this anything other than a great
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Speaker 1: result for the circumstances. We mentioned the word outlier. Leclere
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Speaker 1: is fantastic at this race track and there's an energy
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Speaker 1: to the way he does everything here. And it's so
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Speaker 1: interesting to see that home race pressure and what that
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Speaker 1: does to drivers. And we see it every year in
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Speaker 1: albert Park when we had Mark Webber or Daniel Ricardo
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Speaker 1: Oscar Piastri. There is something about a home race and
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Speaker 1: you remember going back f one and a bygone era.
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Speaker 1: Jensen Button was always awesome in Australia and terrible a
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Speaker 1: Silverstone and Mark Webber was the opposite. They wish they
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Speaker 1: could trade a lot of the time. But I love
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Speaker 1: Lacleur at this circuit because he does stand taller and
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Speaker 1: he does feel a sense of expectation with what he
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Speaker 1: wants to do. What can we take away with from
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Speaker 1: this with Ferrari? Look, I have trust issues. Perhaps it's me.
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Speaker 1: It's not you, it's me. I have trust issues because
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Speaker 1: every time we think we've got them figured out and
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Speaker 1: there's a trajectory there, positive or negative, they'll turn up
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Speaker 1: at the next Grand Prix and it'll be completely tipped
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Speaker 1: upside down. You look at where we're going in a
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Speaker 1: week's time. Is there a more different circuit than the
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Speaker 1: circuit of Barcelona? Cattle and you're for a Formula one
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Speaker 1: car than Monaco. I always think that the Spanish Grand Prix,
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Speaker 1: if there's an inherent weakness in your car, that track
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Speaker 1: exposes it brutally because of the nature of that layout,
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Speaker 1: and there's just nowhere to hide there. It's never a
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Speaker 1: particularly great Grand Prix, ReSpectacle but it's not a place
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Speaker 1: that tells any lies. And if you've got some issues
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Speaker 1: with your car, this place will expose them. And so
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Speaker 1: in answer to your question, I'm going to sit on
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Speaker 1: the fence for seven whole days here because if we're
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Speaker 1: still having a semi positive conversation after Cataloonia, then look,
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Speaker 1: maybe you know the thing that the light for Ferrari
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Speaker 1: is not the oncoming trainer at the end of the tunnel,
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Speaker 1: but Leclaire at this race track is special and you
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Speaker 1: have to think that when Lando Norris locked up into
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Speaker 1: turn one there, his eyes would have got very, very big.
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Speaker 1: It's like this Chad's to be a back to back winner,
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Speaker 1: but considering how bad he's luck usually is there, I
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Speaker 1: think the second place in the circumstances is pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Well remarkably just his second podium, yes after victory last year,
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Speaker 2: despite him being the three three time pole.
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Speaker 1: Well, he barely finishes a race there all last year
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Speaker 1: because it would always be poland then be some sort
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Speaker 1: of disaster where it didn't even start one year. I remember,
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Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong did so at least he
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Speaker 1: banished that last year and that was a hugely emotional
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Speaker 1: part of the twenty twenty four season. But as good
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Speaker 1: a weekend as could be imagined, but also not a
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Speaker 1: surprise because it's charlat Clerk and it's Monco.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: At least the curse was broken by the victrinalistic and
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Speaker 2: aim for more than just finishing in the points of
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Speaker 2: finishing at all.
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Speaker 3: Before we move on, and I do want to talk briefly.
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Speaker 2: About Red Bull Racing because two teams came to this
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Speaker 2: track feeling pretty pessimistic. One was Ferrari and they ended
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Speaker 2: up having a reasonable weekend. The other was Red Bull Racing.
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Speaker 2: I think Max with Stappan got exactly what he thought
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Speaker 2: he was going to get out of this, which was
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Speaker 2: not a podium, a trying and a bold strategy that
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Speaker 2: didn't work. I think the evidence of this weekend for
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Speaker 2: Red Bull Racing, or the takeaway is that this car
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Speaker 2: has all the same problems as last year's car. Maybe
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Speaker 2: it's slightly more benign in some circumstances, but its weakness
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Speaker 2: in slow corners still exists cannot be ameliorated in the
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Speaker 2: same way.
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Speaker 3: Clearly Ferrari managed to do so at this.
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Speaker 2: Track, and I think we should be questioned about taking
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Speaker 2: it too much away from this weekend because it is
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Speaker 2: such an outlier. But this felt very validating for everything
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Speaker 2: we thought we understood about this car. It does it
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Speaker 2: will be an interesting piece to fit into the puzzle
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Speaker 2: of whether or not this championship campaign is real because
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Speaker 2: it does feel like that question we thought were getting
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Speaker 2: an answer to a Nimola Yeah, was put on ice
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Speaker 2: this weekend, and it's hard to know what to interpret
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Speaker 2: from it. Well, I feel like I understand Ferrari less right,
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Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm beginning to understand red Bull more.
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Speaker 2: This car does not like being monster over curbs. We've
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Speaker 2: seen that for.
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Speaker 1: The last couple of years, and you could see that
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Speaker 1: in the way that Max Stepan was trying to drive
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Speaker 1: it compared to the way Yuki Sonoda was trying to
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Speaker 1: drive it, and that's a separate conversation. Max has shrugged
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Speaker 1: his shoulders and said, well, this car doesn't like this,
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Speaker 1: I'll just drive around that, which is what you can
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Speaker 1: do when you're a four time world champion and pound
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Speaker 1: for pound, the best guy in the sport at the moment.
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Speaker 1: This was just a par weekend for them to see
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Speaker 1: a four time world champion for a team of that pedigree. Basically,
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Speaker 1: goal hanging for a safety car or a red flag
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Speaker 1: was a little bit undercoming quite franickly, but by the
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Speaker 1: same time, and what other cards did they have to play?
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Speaker 1: They weren't in the race with Ferrari. They went in
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Speaker 1: the race with McLaren. They had Mercedes had a weird
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Speaker 1: sort of weekend point this weekend, so they had them covered.
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Speaker 1: He did the only thing he could do in that
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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave this second stop as late as
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Speaker 1: humanly possible. Something might happen, and if it doesn't, I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to finish where I was probably going to
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Speaker 1: finish anyway. So it was nothing ventured, nothing gained. But
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Speaker 1: I feel I feel we've got a pretty good hold
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Speaker 1: on what Red Bull is. Max will make that cargo
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Speaker 1: place as it probably shouldn't. Is it as bad as
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Speaker 1: Sonoda's making it look? No, The sweet spot somewhere in
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Speaker 1: the middle, probably closer to where Max is. He's still
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Speaker 1: going to have tracks where his sheer ability and the
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Speaker 1: strength of that car and track position is going to
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Speaker 1: get him. He's going to be a disruptor where the
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Speaker 1: rest of this season goes. But I still think it's
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Speaker 1: a two driver to fight for the championship, with Max
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Speaker 1: being probably annoying to both of them at some point
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Speaker 1: through the back end of the year where he just
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Speaker 1: has awesome weekends that you can't explain well.
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Speaker 2: Like you said, I think Barcelona will be the limbus
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Speaker 2: test for so much of what we think we know
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Speaker 2: about this campaign.
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Speaker 3: So that'll be this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Before were on from Monaco, though, we've got to talk
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Speaker 2: about what was the talking point leading into this weekend.
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Speaker 2: This rule change to mandate two stops in Monte Carlo.
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Speaker 2: This was brought in. It was relatively recently he was
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Speaker 2: brought in, but it was in response the last year's
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Speaker 2: shocker of a race, when, of course that early red
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Speaker 2: flag went there were effectively no pit stops, at least
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Speaker 2: among the leaders of the top ten. Two stops mandatory
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Speaker 2: at least fixes that, because even if that were to
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Speaker 2: happen again, there'd be one more stop. It's probably worth
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Speaker 2: considering at the end of this that the top four
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Speaker 2: finished in grid order effectively the top ten did. When
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Speaker 2: you take out Fernando Lonso's retirement, Lewis Hamilton recovering from
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Speaker 2: the penalty you got after qualifying. Everyone finished pretty much
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Speaker 2: where they started, So in one sense you could say
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Speaker 2: two stops at the same track makes no difference because
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Speaker 2: it's at Monaco. We did, though, get this interesting battle
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Speaker 2: in the lower reaches of the points. Say battle, it's
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Speaker 2: probably not exactly the right word, it's not a race.
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Speaker 2: It wow, it's not a race. It really was a race.
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Speaker 2: The racing bulls started it with Liam Lawson backing up
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Speaker 2: the pack for Isaac Hadja to make his two pit
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Speaker 2: stops for free.
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Speaker 3: Essentially, William saw that and said, well a bit of that.
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Speaker 2: They did exactly the same, but twice as significant, because
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Speaker 2: then they swapped their cars and got Alex al wanted
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Speaker 2: to do exactly what Parlo Signs had done for him.
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Speaker 2: Mercedes then presumably would have found a way to double that,
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Speaker 2: but George Russell's brain just broke. I overtook alex Alban
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Speaker 2: I think it was all the time off the track,
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Speaker 2: and then copped a drive through penalty and thinks that
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Speaker 2: was better for him.
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Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: I'm not certain what to conclude from this. I've been
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Speaker 2: thinking about it all day. In some respects, all of
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Speaker 2: this stuff is pretty part of the course in Monaco,
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Speaker 2: but it felt much more exaggerated and much worse.
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Speaker 3: Or was it much better?
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Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily much worse. It's just with the two
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Speaker 1: pit stops we had twice the opportunities to lament how
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Speaker 1: bad it was. Literally, that's literally I'm saying it normally
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Speaker 1: it's like, well there's only one stop and everyone's driving
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Speaker 1: around information, but at least we've got the stops done.
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Speaker 1: It's like we have to do this again. And so
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Speaker 1: you had two separate things going on. I think the
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Speaker 1: top four we're having a race much as they are
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Speaker 1: constrained by having a race in Monaco. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure what everyone else in the pack was doing because
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the Alonso retirement. Unlucky it's going Formula one
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Speaker 1: just yea, he should have scored points. He was fantastic
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Speaker 1: this week, Hare and Lewis Hamilton sort of settling into
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Speaker 1: where he probably should have been post penalty. But watching
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Speaker 1: what racing bulls were doing in that Liam Lawson literally
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Speaker 1: he may may as well have had a caravan on
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Speaker 1: the back of that thing, you know, not getting on
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Speaker 1: the on the hard shoulder, and Haja does two pit
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Speaker 1: stops and basically stays exactly where he is, and then
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Speaker 1: the domino effect that caused and William's doing it worse
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Speaker 1: but pointing at racing bulls that we'll get it first.
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Speaker 1: It people became a bit school yard, didn't it. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you solved this because it's Monaco,
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Speaker 1: and it's Formula one. It's an outlier and it's great
15:40
Speaker 1: that it exists, but it's also great there's only one
15:42
Speaker 1: of them. But as a spectacle, normally you have a
15:46
Speaker 1: slow car race at Monaco. I'm not sure anyone passed
15:49
Speaker 1: about position five last night was actually having a car race.
15:52
Speaker 1: It was a procession and the rules were being gamified
15:56
Speaker 1: to a point that it actually kind of jumped the
15:58
Speaker 1: shark a little bit. It got a little bit silly,
16:00
Speaker 1: and George Russell just basically saying, I'm going to deliberately
16:04
Speaker 1: overtake somebody and copper penalty, and surely that will even
16:08
Speaker 1: be better than what I'm doing, because breaking his brain
16:10
Speaker 1: is completely right. I can't do this anymore. I'm not
16:13
Speaker 1: getting any points anyway, so I may as well have
16:15
Speaker 1: some fun and try and do something and then copp
16:17
Speaker 1: a very severe penalty for doing it. But look, it's
16:21
Speaker 1: the nature of this place. The cars. Now. It's funny
16:24
Speaker 1: because Monico's got this incredible history. You see old vision
16:28
Speaker 1: of old Formula one cars around Monaco, when they were
16:30
Speaker 1: lighter and more nimble and didn't just take up so
16:33
Speaker 1: much real estate on the circuit. These cars now look
16:36
Speaker 1: insanely big in some of these really really narrow parts
16:39
Speaker 1: of the track. And we mentioned this last week. The
16:42
Speaker 1: last five minutes of Q three is awesome too, that
16:45
Speaker 1: because everything's on the line, you almost don't know where
16:47
Speaker 1: to look. I'd actually almost one shot qualifying for Monica.
16:52
Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't mind that everyone gets to go out
16:55
Speaker 1: and does their lap independently without anybody else. That would
16:57
Speaker 1: be awesome to be because I fe you miss a
16:58
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff in qualifying in Monica. So much
17:00
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, the race, you'd be happy to miss it,
17:02
Speaker 1: quite frankly, because once you get past the first quarter
17:05
Speaker 1: and any potential jeopardy, not a hell of a lot happens.
17:08
Speaker 1: But racing Balls saw the double pit stop strategy as
17:13
Speaker 1: a way to really gamify this race and look full
17:15
Speaker 1: credit to them, they qualified well and they scored a
17:18
Speaker 1: lot of points doing it. Was it a great spectacle?
17:20
Speaker 1: I would suggest not.
17:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was really interesting. To go back
17:24
Speaker 2: to George Us, I thought it was very interesting that
17:26
Speaker 2: the reason he overtook off the track, Yes, part of
17:28
Speaker 2: this brain breaking moment, but he said, I just want
17:31
Speaker 2: to have I just want to enjoy being at Monaco
17:33
Speaker 2: because he'd spent the whole time in traffic and he'd
17:36
Speaker 2: lost qualifying. I think that was also the critical part
17:38
Speaker 2: because he had a technical failure at the very beginning
17:40
Speaker 2: Q treies, so they didn't even have a real chance
17:42
Speaker 2: to really open the taps and have a crack here.
17:44
Speaker 2: So I'm just can I take it off the track?
17:46
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to get a penalty. In fact,
17:47
Speaker 2: teams were warned that if this exact scenario happened, it
17:50
Speaker 2: would be more than just the ten seconds.
17:52
Speaker 3: It would be the potential for a driver. So he
17:53
Speaker 3: even knew that.
17:54
Speaker 2: I'm doing it anyway, he said, The last twenty five
17:56
Speaker 2: laps had great fun.
17:58
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I was going to score points anyway
17:59
Speaker 3: I could. Doesn't matter.
18:01
Speaker 2: But I think that's important because even an ordinary and
18:04
Speaker 2: now last year's is unusually bad. So let's just say
18:06
Speaker 2: a normal bad race like the kind we had at
18:08
Speaker 2: the very front. Yeah, were was sort of like bit
18:10
Speaker 2: of tension, but nothing too serious. The drivers still come
18:13
Speaker 2: out of the car and have enjoyed themselves. Because they
18:15
Speaker 2: were at Monaco. They knew what they were getting themselves
18:17
Speaker 2: into when they qualified. They knew that was where they're
18:19
Speaker 2: going to finish, but they still enjoyed what the Monaco
18:22
Speaker 2: race was, which is very which is unique and should
18:24
Speaker 2: be unique. If drivers then get out of the car
18:27
Speaker 2: and have had a really bad time on Sunday, then
18:31
Speaker 2: the spectacle completely falls down because you can just about
18:33
Speaker 2: stomach the race being bad. If at least the drivers
18:36
Speaker 2: can express afterwards the challenge of staying out of the
18:39
Speaker 2: wall and of being relatively fast around the track. If not,
18:42
Speaker 2: then it doesn't make any sense at all.
18:45
Speaker 1: Well, the two Williams guys in the pen after the
18:48
Speaker 1: race were so honest. I'm not sure that you know,
18:52
Speaker 1: the organizers and the governing body would have loved it
18:54
Speaker 1: all that much. But Alex Albom basically apologized, I'm really
18:59
Speaker 1: sorry that you had to sit through this because of
19:01
Speaker 1: the way we did it, but we had no choice,
19:03
Speaker 1: and Carlo Science was similarly forthright with his comments. There're
19:06
Speaker 1: two good guys to get a sound bite out of
19:08
Speaker 1: in a situation like that. They're two grown ups in
19:10
Speaker 1: the room. But even as they're doing it, I can't
19:13
Speaker 1: quite believe we're going through with this. I also can't
19:15
Speaker 1: quite believe that everyone's watching it. But I don't know
19:17
Speaker 1: about you. We have this conversation every year with Monaco.
19:19
Speaker 1: How can we fix Monocac? How can we fix Monaco?
19:22
Speaker 1: You can't fix Monico. The only way you have a
19:24
Speaker 1: different Monoco is if you don't have Monoco at all.
19:27
Speaker 1: So you have to go into this weekend with the
19:29
Speaker 1: lowest possible expectations that it's going to be anything other
19:32
Speaker 1: than a slight variation on what it's been. And we
19:35
Speaker 1: watch the cars go around, and qualifying's great, and it
19:37
Speaker 1: looks great on TV, and there's some shots of the boats,
19:40
Speaker 1: and then we all go to the next round and
19:42
Speaker 1: you just have to see it as one round in
19:43
Speaker 1: twenty four. You can't fix everything. It is what it is.
19:46
Speaker 1: It's there for a reason. We move on.
19:48
Speaker 2: I think the solution, if anyone for everyone is watching,
19:50
Speaker 2: is genuine by the way you're doing the format exactly
19:52
Speaker 2: as it is now. But then Sunday morning, after you
19:55
Speaker 2: have qualifying Saturday night, you have your one shot qualifying
19:58
Speaker 2: with just the top ten a little bit Bathist style,
20:01
Speaker 2: except obviously Bathist gets its own day. But the reason
20:03
Speaker 2: I say move that to Sunday is that at least
20:04
Speaker 2: at the end of Sunday, the talking point is where
20:07
Speaker 2: did they qualify because that's where they finished, inevitably, and
20:10
Speaker 2: you get your one shot qualifying, which you spectacular at Monaco.
20:12
Speaker 2: It makes Sunday more meaningful than just asking Christian Horner
20:16
Speaker 2: why the track should be extended, which inevitably happens and
20:19
Speaker 2: will never happen. So I think, do one shot qualifying,
20:22
Speaker 2: make it Sunday, get more qualifying, which is what's good
20:24
Speaker 2: about Monaco, more Bank fee Buck, and Sunday then becomes
20:27
Speaker 2: meaningful because the race is You can put it in
20:29
Speaker 2: brackets afterwards.
20:31
Speaker 1: And you could say, well, why we're making an exception
20:33
Speaker 1: for this one Grand Prix Monaco is an exception by
20:36
Speaker 1: true the fact that it even exists. It's a two
20:38
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kilometer car race. It's not like any
20:40
Speaker 1: of the other races on the calendar. We're already making
20:43
Speaker 1: so many concessions to keep this thing on the calendar.
20:45
Speaker 1: So sure, let's have our top ten one qualify.
20:48
Speaker 3: I think that's the one for it.
20:49
Speaker 1: Let's run the track in reverse one year, let's go
20:51
Speaker 1: completely let's go completely crazy, let's do something different because
20:54
Speaker 1: it is a different Grand Prix.
20:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's that's all it needs to
20:56
Speaker 2: be done. We don't need these extra stops. You can
20:58
Speaker 2: keep it if you want. Maybe next year will be fixed remarkably, Matt,
21:01
Speaker 2: it's time for Move of the Week, brought to you
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Speaker 2: by Shadons. Now we're going to transition soon to some
21:09
Speaker 2: other sports, so I'm going to kick us off, and
21:12
Speaker 2: this is less of a move of the week and
21:14
Speaker 2: more of an appreciation of the week because I watched
21:17
Speaker 2: back the Monaco Grand Prix.
21:19
Speaker 1: Sadly you did.
21:20
Speaker 2: Gabrielle bought a leto made an overtake on Andrea Kimi
21:24
Speaker 2: Antonelli one overtake he did, and Niko Holkenberg overtook Yuki Sonoda,
21:29
Speaker 2: both on the first lap. They're the only two overtakes
21:31
Speaker 2: I could find. So they're going to share for me
21:33
Speaker 2: the move of the week because they made overtake move.
21:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:38
Speaker 2: Yes, Gabriel immediately ended up in defense after his but
21:41
Speaker 2: you know what he tried first.
21:44
Speaker 1: Tom Souber has been mentioned on this podcast possibly ever
21:46
Speaker 1: the greatest overtaking car in Formula One.
21:49
Speaker 3: Yes, they got they were the only teams that moved forward.
21:52
Speaker 1: On the first They had a crack.
21:53
Speaker 2: They had a good crack and as a result, they
21:56
Speaker 2: are my moves of the.
21:57
Speaker 1: Week Moves Plural were speaking of having a crack. I'm
22:00
Speaker 1: going two wheels here. You and I were messaging as
22:04
Speaker 1: this was going on the Motor II race that the
22:05
Speaker 1: British Grand Prix. Sylveston Sener Ags pulled the Stephen Bradbury
22:10
Speaker 1: on the final lap of the Motor two race, made
22:13
Speaker 1: the most of some silliness going on between Aaron Connett
22:16
Speaker 1: and David Alonzo i'pen ahead of him, played the last
22:19
Speaker 1: two corners of the final lap of the race absolutely
22:22
Speaker 1: spectacularly and ends up becoming Australia's first intermediate class winner
22:26
Speaker 1: since Remy Gardner five years ago. First Grand Prix win
22:30
Speaker 1: for him and certainly won't be the last. He's nineteen
22:33
Speaker 1: ags and there's just something about him, the way he
22:36
Speaker 1: carries himself, how rapid the learning curve has been. We
22:40
Speaker 1: remember him on the podium a philipp Island last year
22:42
Speaker 1: completely out of mirror. This was that opportunistically brilliant win
22:46
Speaker 1: taken from a position of composure. These are the wins
22:49
Speaker 1: that these guys have that are going to make it
22:51
Speaker 1: coming through. Fantastically opportunistic. Great to see an Australian on
22:55
Speaker 1: top step of a Motor GP podium. Haven't seen one
22:57
Speaker 1: for a while, but Move of the Week. I don't
22:59
Speaker 1: know if it gets any better when you go from
23:01
Speaker 1: third to first with two quarters to go, will your
23:03
Speaker 1: first grond brew.
23:04
Speaker 2: I love that as well because some people think, I know,
23:06
Speaker 2: when there's two riders or drivers battling, it's just easy
23:08
Speaker 2: wait for to make a mistake. But you could really tell,
23:10
Speaker 2: and this was a great example of it.
23:12
Speaker 3: You've really got to.
23:12
Speaker 2: Think ahead to make a move like that work. You've
23:15
Speaker 2: got to predict what's going to happen, and he nailed it.
23:17
Speaker 1: Well, and also knowing the personnel in that situation, like
23:20
Speaker 1: Aaron Connett is not going down wondering in that sort
23:22
Speaker 1: of situation. He's not going to be bullied by an
23:25
Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid that's come up from Moto three.
23:27
Speaker 1: So you knew that Canett was going to very robustly
23:29
Speaker 1: defend their last quarter, and I just knew the personnel
23:32
Speaker 1: that was ahead of him and played it perfectly. And
23:34
Speaker 1: he's a Grand Prix winner.
23:35
Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations to him. Now.
23:37
Speaker 2: In a related note, let's move to interested versus experts.
23:42
Speaker 2: A lot of me being interested this week and you
23:44
Speaker 2: being the expert because it was. There was no supercars
23:45
Speaker 2: this round this weekend. Rather we've still got a couple
23:48
Speaker 2: of weeks before the roundover in Perth. But it was
23:50
Speaker 2: the British Grand Prix, British Motorcycle Grand Prix. It was
23:54
Speaker 2: typically a British Motorcycle Grand Prix as well because yet
23:56
Speaker 2: again not a repeat winner.
23:58
Speaker 1: Yes, but a lot of action.
24:00
Speaker 2: It was NonStop, a lot to think about, a lot
24:01
Speaker 2: to talk about. What were your take a love.
24:03
Speaker 1: This is one of the most bizarre streaks in world
24:06
Speaker 1: sport at this point. So Marco Betzeki wins that race
24:09
Speaker 1: for a Prillia on Sunday night Australia. At the time,
24:11
Speaker 1: that is the eleventh different rider to win the past
24:15
Speaker 1: eleven British Motorcycle Grand Prix. It makes absolutely no sense
24:19
Speaker 1: and coming into the weekend you would have thought, well,
24:21
Speaker 1: surely this is the year that this gets overturned because
24:25
Speaker 1: Aprillia hasn't really been anywhere this year, but Zaki joined
24:27
Speaker 1: them at the start of this season hasn't been great.
24:30
Speaker 1: Aprilia has been in the news for other headlines, with
24:33
Speaker 1: Jorge Martin trying to get out of a Prillia having
24:35
Speaker 1: not even completed a single race distance for them.
24:38
Speaker 3: Yet I wonder what he was thinking.
24:40
Speaker 1: And so there's all this going on in the background
24:43
Speaker 1: and then it's tenth on the grid. It was a
24:46
Speaker 1: bizarre race wind but completely in character for motor GP
24:50
Speaker 1: at this particular circuit, and it's funny Silverstone and that
24:53
Speaker 1: it's a great layout for bikes with the high, high
24:56
Speaker 1: speed sweeping corners. It's a bit of a long lap.
24:59
Speaker 1: It's the longest lap motor GP, and I think whenever
25:01
Speaker 1: you get motor GP laps that are starting to fall
25:03
Speaker 1: into the two minute range, it's a little bit too long.
25:05
Speaker 1: And you see it at the tracks where circuit in
25:07
Speaker 1: the America is where F one goes. Silverston obviously met
25:09
Speaker 1: British Grand Prix for F one, but as a spectacle,
25:13
Speaker 1: this was the earliest this race has been held ever
25:16
Speaker 1: since it's been at Silvers and it was in May.
25:17
Speaker 1: Normally it's in August September. It was cold, so you're
25:20
Speaker 1: talking fifteen degree ambients barely twenty five degree track temps.
25:25
Speaker 1: It completely changed the way this race was won and
25:29
Speaker 1: it was all about being on the correct tire, probably
25:32
Speaker 1: the atypical tire at the right time. You needed to
25:35
Speaker 1: be on a soft front tier here because it was frankly,
25:38
Speaker 1: it was too cold for anything harder than that. But
25:40
Speaker 1: then you also had to live with the fact that
25:41
Speaker 1: that soft front tire is probably going to go off
25:43
Speaker 1: towards the end of the race. So you had this
25:45
Speaker 1: real catamouse strategic race going on. Fantastic win for Btzeki,
25:50
Speaker 1: but Fabio Quascerero and Yamaha the hardest of hard luck stories.
25:55
Speaker 1: If anyone ever doubted this guy as an absolute top
25:57
Speaker 1: liner in Motor GP three straight pole position as Yamaha
26:01
Speaker 1: is starting to ascend again, that race was done. He
26:04
Speaker 1: had a four and a half second lead twelve laps
26:06
Speaker 1: into a nineteen lap race and was doing it with
26:08
Speaker 1: a league in the air, and of all the things
26:10
Speaker 1: to happen, rear ride high device gets stuck, can't disengage it,
26:15
Speaker 1: and he has not won a race since midpoint of
26:17
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and there's been a lot of reasons
26:20
Speaker 1: for that that haven't been him. And so to see
26:22
Speaker 1: him ride on the cusp of breaking that drought and
26:25
Speaker 1: then having that taken away from him, Look, he was
26:28
Speaker 1: absolutely devastated, as you could imagine. But I think if
26:31
Speaker 1: anyone wondered where this guy sits in the top line
26:34
Speaker 1: of motor GP riders on the current grid. He is
26:37
Speaker 1: right up there that the Amaha project is really coming
26:39
Speaker 1: along At the moment he will be in winning positions again.
26:42
Speaker 1: But for a weekend that he dominated that race on
26:45
Speaker 1: Sunday deserve far better. But it was just another subplot
26:49
Speaker 1: in I think motor GP only does crazy races at
26:52
Speaker 1: the moment. It seems that, you know, we're talking about
26:53
Speaker 1: France last week with jons Arko winning every second race
26:57
Speaker 1: seems to be completely nuts at the moment. It's great TV, yeah,
27:00
Speaker 1: but a bit of variety at the front end of
27:01
Speaker 1: the championship and I'm here for it.
27:03
Speaker 3: Yes. Well, I was a very exciting point just before
27:05
Speaker 3: he crashed, I suppose, but there were.
27:07
Speaker 1: No de Caffies on the podium well, and because we
27:09
Speaker 1: had a restart and race. I think that was part
27:11
Speaker 1: of what I was saying before about being on the
27:13
Speaker 1: correct tie there, because we had a race that was
27:15
Speaker 1: abandoned on the second lap after we had both Marquez
27:17
Speaker 1: brothers down in the first two laps and then a
27:20
Speaker 1: bike on fire and oil all over the track in
27:23
Speaker 1: the last couple of corners. That prompted the red flag,
27:25
Speaker 1: so the Markeu's brothers effectively got to do over little
27:27
Speaker 1: known ruling motor GP. If there is a red flag
27:29
Speaker 1: within the first three laps, all riders can take the restart,
27:32
Speaker 1: and so that's something a lot of people were saying,
27:34
Speaker 1: why these guys back in the race like anyone that
27:36
Speaker 1: had crashed out in those first two laps, and there
27:38
Speaker 1: were a few of them, They effectively got a hard reset.
27:41
Speaker 1: So you know, Mark Marquez actually extended his championship lead
27:44
Speaker 1: through all of the silliness on Sunday at Silvestone admitted
27:47
Speaker 1: afterwards he got very very lucky, finished third. Not a
27:50
Speaker 1: particularly good weekend for him, but these are the weekends
27:52
Speaker 1: where you just stack points relative to your rivals and
27:55
Speaker 1: they all count towards the end of the year. But
27:57
Speaker 1: suitably bonkers at Silveston and a very enjoyable Yes, sales man,
28:00
Speaker 1: as ya as you say, this year reliably has been.
28:04
Speaker 3: Yes, it is very exciting.
28:05
Speaker 2: Let me very briefly engage your interests before we wrap
28:08
Speaker 2: this one up, because it wasn't a supercars on the weekend,
28:10
Speaker 2: but there was news that there will be two races
28:11
Speaker 2: in New Zealand for the international expansion.
28:14
Speaker 3: We consider New Zealand international. Of course it is a
28:16
Speaker 3: different country.
28:17
Speaker 2: Continues and it sounds like it will be back to
28:21
Speaker 2: It will be a double headed they will be obviously
28:22
Speaker 2: right alongside each other, because why would you go all
28:24
Speaker 2: the way there to come back and go back and
28:25
Speaker 2: go back again.
28:26
Speaker 3: Yes, but it sounds like it will be.
28:28
Speaker 2: It's being billed by ceoshanaw it as a fortnight two
28:31
Speaker 2: weeks of supercars mayhem on the North Island and the
28:34
Speaker 2: South Island. So we're looking at probably consecutive weekends, which
28:37
Speaker 2: would be very exciting. Doesn't normally happen in supercars. I'll
28:40
Speaker 2: be interested to say, well, first of all the response,
28:42
Speaker 2: I mean, this is now a nationwide thing for New Zealand.
28:45
Speaker 3: Both islands are covered. But also the.
28:47
Speaker 2: Response in how that back to back is handled, because,
28:50
Speaker 2: like I say, supercars doesn't do it that often. No,
28:53
Speaker 2: what's that going to mean from momentum? If we're going
28:55
Speaker 2: to have the same race formats next year, that's six
28:57
Speaker 2: races in it'll be less than it'd be about eight days.
29:00
Speaker 2: I suppose it's a lot of racing in a few days.
29:02
Speaker 2: How are you bounced back? What if there's a big crash,
29:04
Speaker 2: you're very far away from home in New Zealand, especially
29:06
Speaker 2: if the cars are all being taken by boat.
29:08
Speaker 3: Again, like logistically is very interesting.
29:11
Speaker 2: It's great for New Zealand, and I think it's great
29:13
Speaker 2: for supercars because while there's been a lot of talk
29:15
Speaker 2: in the last few years, let's say about really sending
29:19
Speaker 2: it overseas to Asia whatever, I think we're going to
29:22
Speaker 2: expand anywhere, first, it's got to be in New Zealand.
29:23
Speaker 3: The fan base is pretty big there.
29:24
Speaker 2: We've got plenty of kiwee drivers, Matt pain foremost among
29:28
Speaker 2: them at the moment. Great legacy obviously New Zealand's well,
29:31
Speaker 2: great history in New Zealand.
29:33
Speaker 3: They needed more than one.
29:34
Speaker 2: They deserved more than one race, and it's really great
29:36
Speaker 2: that this has now come about and it's going to
29:38
Speaker 2: be I think a really interesting little experiment to be
29:42
Speaker 2: racing that much overseas, all in one block, all in
29:44
Speaker 2: such a short period of time.
29:45
Speaker 1: I like it from the perspective of the Aussie fans
29:47
Speaker 1: in the air, you were thinking of potentially going over
29:50
Speaker 1: to see an international race, and that was one of
29:52
Speaker 1: those things. Look, it's only just that weekend. Can I
29:54
Speaker 1: justify the cost. You can go over there and lock
29:56
Speaker 1: into this festival. It's going to be over there for
29:58
Speaker 1: a couple of weeksbsolutely justify the span. It'd be really
30:02
Speaker 1: interesting to see what the Australian fan contingent that goes
30:04
Speaker 1: over to see this, because that's now a significant carrot.
30:07
Speaker 1: See two different parts of the country, two different racetracks
30:10
Speaker 1: within a ten day period. It's a lot of racing
30:12
Speaker 1: to enjoy. I could see there being quite a tourist boonsh.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely topor obviously already touristy. And then christ Church
30:19
Speaker 2: continues to rebuild. I guess after the earthquakes. I was
30:21
Speaker 2: there only last year. I think beautiful part of the world.
30:23
Speaker 2: I mean New Zealand is part of the world, but
30:25
Speaker 2: christ Church in that South Island area particularly so tracks
30:29
Speaker 2: right near christ Church, so I think it's only fifteen
30:31
Speaker 2: kilmeters away or something like that, very close.
30:33
Speaker 3: I would be a great trip. Now you got me thinking,
30:35
Speaker 3: maybe do you think about going to New Zealand?
30:37
Speaker 1: Maybe you should go hit talk on the road.
30:39
Speaker 3: I look, Shannon's want to support it. I'm all for it.
30:42
Speaker 3: Let's trap this one up.
30:43
Speaker 2: Matt with a crystal ball by complete Home filtration in
30:50
Speaker 2: the middle of an F one triple header. A bag
30:51
Speaker 2: of JP races are flowing now, supercars not trying away?
30:54
Speaker 3: What are you thinking?
30:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a little bit naughty here. My
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Speaker 1: crystal ball tells me that Isaac Hajar is going to
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Speaker 1: be mentioned as a Red Bull racing driver gossip very
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Speaker 1: very very soon, and all jokes aside because he's performing
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Speaker 1: were Lee Lawson didn't and Yuki Sonoda isn't. Isaac Hajar
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Speaker 1: has massively surprised me this year in that I thought,
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Speaker 1: of all the rookies this year, he was the one
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Speaker 1: that was probably going to have the most crash damage
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Speaker 1: and was going to be the most erratic. He's been.
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Speaker 1: He's ticked every box for me. He's been very very good,
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Speaker 1: surprisingly calm, taken every opportunity and yes, we talked about
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Speaker 1: the Monaco confluence of circumstances, but he was there to
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Speaker 1: be the beneficiary of that strategy. And look, who on
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Speaker 1: earth knows what's going on with Red Bull second driver?
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Speaker 1: Do they know they've got a second driver? Do they
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Speaker 1: even care they've got a second driver? But right now,
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Speaker 1: of the three other Red Bull back drivers on the grid,
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Speaker 1: he seems to me to be the most qualified to
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Speaker 1: be Max Fastavan's teammate, which is also a poison chalice,
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Speaker 1: so you've got to be careful what you wish for.
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Speaker 1: But I think very soon we're going to see some
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Speaker 1: serious conversations about Hajar potentially being in that car because
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Speaker 1: quite frankly, the two guys that have been in it
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Speaker 1: this year, I'm not delivering.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is such a big talking point, I
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Speaker 2: can't complete it right back, no point. But all I
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Speaker 2: would say is that we were saying the same thing
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Speaker 2: about Yuki Sanoda about a month ago when he was
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Speaker 2: at racing points. So I think the problems are really
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Speaker 2: big at Red Bull Racing. I'm going to stick with
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Speaker 2: the Red Bull Racing for my prediction. Something we haven't
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Speaker 2: talked about this week, but we will debrief next week
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Speaker 2: is that there are some rule changes coming or all
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Speaker 2: the reinterpretations coming this weekend to the flexibility of front wings.
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Speaker 2: All very exciting and technical, But Red Bull Racing has
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Speaker 2: been telling us or hinting non stop for a month
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Speaker 2: that this is the thing, this is what's going to
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Speaker 2: break this Championshi Open.
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Speaker 3: They're going to be back after this rule change.
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Speaker 2: It brings McLaren back more than it brings back any
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Speaker 2: other team. I'm going to say McLaren's going to win
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Speaker 2: by sixty seconds, not sixty seconds. They're going to win comfortably,
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Speaker 2: and then Red Bull Racing is going to have to
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Speaker 2: come up with some new reasons as to why the
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Speaker 2: car is not quite there.
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Speaker 1: Well, we mentioned before that Catalonia is this great litmus
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Speaker 1: test of what Formula one car can do. We often
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Speaker 1: get really dominant wins there. You think back in the
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Speaker 1: Mercedes domination, they would absolutely demolish everybody. Whichever team has
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Speaker 1: got the car in the sweet spot. It tends to
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Speaker 1: be magnified at this particular track. So if McLaren, even
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Speaker 1: with this new technical directive, come out and demolish everyone
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Speaker 1: this weekend, then Christian Horner's press debrief will be a
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Speaker 1: manage reviewing.
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Speaker 2: Go think yeah, I think so. I'm looking forward to it.
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