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ParaNorman · Verbal Diorama

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Hi,
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everyone.
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I'm
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Em,
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and
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welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama,
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episode
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284
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ParaNorman.
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This
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is
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the
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podcast
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that's
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all
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about
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the
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history
3:32
and
3:32
legacy
3:32
of
3:33
movies.
3:33
You
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know,
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and
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maybe
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you
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don't
3:35
that
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my
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grandma
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says
3:36
that
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you
3:36
should
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listen
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to.
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She
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died
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in
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2006,
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but
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Norman
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says
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she's
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telling
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you
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to
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listen,
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so
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it's
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probably
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a
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good
3:43
idea
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that
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you
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are.
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Welcome
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to
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Verbal
3:45
Diorama.
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Whether
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you
3:46
are
3:46
a
3:47
brand
3:47
new
3:47
listener
3:47
to
3:47
this
3:48
podcast,
3:48
whether
3:48
you
3:49
are
3:49
a
3:49
regular
3:49
returning
3:50
listener,
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thank
3:51
you
3:51
so
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much
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for
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returning.
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If
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you
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are.
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Thank
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you
3:53
for
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being
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here.
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Thank
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you
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for
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choosing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast.
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I
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know
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there
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are
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a
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lot
3:57
of
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media
3:57
podcasts
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out
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there
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that
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are
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all
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vying
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for
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your
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ears
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and
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your
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attention.
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So
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I'm
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so
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happy
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to
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have
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you
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here
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for
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the
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history
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and
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legacy
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of
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ParaNorman.
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And
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if
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you
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don't
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yet
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know,
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we
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are
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in
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the
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midst
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of
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animation
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season
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2025.
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This
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is
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the
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fifth
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annual
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animation
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season.
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It's
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something
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that
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I
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love
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to
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do
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on
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this
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podcast
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I
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love
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to
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feature
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every
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January
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and
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February
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amazing
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animated
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movies.
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All
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forms
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traditional
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2D
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hand
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drawn
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CGI
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stop
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motion.
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Like
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this
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one
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mix
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of
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all
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of
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the
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above.
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It
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doesn't
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matter
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from
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some
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of
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the
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greatest
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animation
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studios
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of
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all
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time
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like
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Liker,
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like
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Aardman,
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Disney,
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Dreamworks,
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Sony
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Animation
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Studio,
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Ghibli,
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Cartoon
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Saloon,
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even
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studios
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that
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are
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no
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longer
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with
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us
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and
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only
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Norman
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can
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speak
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to
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like
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Fox
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Animation,
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Blue
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sky
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and
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Don
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Bluth
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Studios.
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One
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of
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the
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mantras
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of
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this
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podcast
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has
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always
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been
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that
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animation
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is
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not
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just
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for
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children,
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it's
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also
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not
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a
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genre
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either.
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It
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really
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annoys
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me
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when
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people
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call
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it
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a
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genre.
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Animation
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is
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the
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perfect
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art
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form.
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It
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is
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capable
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of
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depicting
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anyone
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or
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anything
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without
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limitations.
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Which
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also
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kind
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of
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irks
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me
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as
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well
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why
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we're
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kind
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of
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transitioning
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from
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animation
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into
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live
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action
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remakes
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when
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the
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animated
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originals
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are
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so
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much
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better
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because
5:16
there
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are
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no
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limitations.
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But
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this
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is
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one
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of
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the
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reasons
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why
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animation
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season
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is
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so
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important.
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It
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remains
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so
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important
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and
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it
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will
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continue
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to
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be
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so
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important
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to
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this
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podcast.
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To
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highlight
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these
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incredible
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films
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that
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you
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may
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have
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seen.
5:30
You
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may
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not
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have
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seen
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every
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movie
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this
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season
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and
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every
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season
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I
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would
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highly
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recommend.
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But
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it
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might
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also
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be
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something
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that
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you've
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discounted
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for
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whatever
5:38
reason,
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and
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I
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suspect
5:39
Paranorman
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may
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be
5:41
on
5:41
that
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discounted
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list
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purely
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because
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it's
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not
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one
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of
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Leica's
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most
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best
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known
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movies.
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However,
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it
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is
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absolutely
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well
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worth
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your
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time
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and
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if
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you
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have
5:50
seen
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Paranormal,
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then
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you
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will
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know
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how
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worthy
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of
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your
5:53
time
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it
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is.
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I
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also
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just
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wanted
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to
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say
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a
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huge
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thank
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you
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to
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everyone
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who
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obviously
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does
5:58
listen
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to
5:58
this
5:58
podcast,
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has
5:59
continued
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to
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listen
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to
6:00
and
6:00
support
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this
6:01
podcast.
6:02
This
6:02
podcast
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is
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very
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almost
6:03
six
6:03
years
6:03
old
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and
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it
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remains
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crazy
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to
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me
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that
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I've
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been
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doing
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this
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for
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almost
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six
6:08
years
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and
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that
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I've
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almost
6:09
hit
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300
6:10
episodes
6:11
as
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well.
6:11
Genuinely,
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from
6:12
the
6:12
bottom
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of
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my
6:13
heart,
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it
6:13
means
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so
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much
6:14
to
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have
6:15
your
6:15
continued
6:15
support.
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Thank
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you
6:17
so
6:17
much.
6:17
And
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if
6:18
you
6:18
are
6:18
a
6:18
new
6:19
listener,
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well,
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I
6:20
mean,
6:20
you've
6:20
got
6:20
a
6:20
lot
6:20
to
6:20
catch
6:21
up
6:21
on,
6:21
let's
6:21
be
6:22
honest.
6:23
But
6:23
let's
6:23
jump
6:24
straight
6:24
into
6:24
ParaNorman,
6:25
because
6:26
you
6:26
may
6:26
not
6:26
immediately
6:27
go
6:27
to
6:27
animation
6:28
as
6:28
a
6:29
medium
6:29
for
6:30
horror,
6:30
but
6:31
it's
6:31
actually
6:31
a
6:31
remarkably
6:32
interesting
6:33
way
6:33
to
6:33
adapt
6:34
the
6:34
horror
6:34
genre
6:35
while
6:36
also
6:36
aiming
6:37
it
6:37
at
6:37
that
6:38
really
6:38
important
6:39
family
6:39
market.
6:40
ParaNorman
6:41
wasn't
6:41
the
6:41
first.
6:42
It
6:42
was
6:42
preceded
6:42
by
6:43
Coraline,
6:43
by
6:44
its
6:44
own
6:44
studio,
6:45
Leica.
6:45
Tim
6:46
Burton's
6:46
Frankenweenie
6:47
came
6:48
out
6:48
the
6:48
same
6:48
year
6:48
as
6:49
ParaNorman.
6:49
The
6:50
Nightmare
6:50
Before
6:50
Christmas,
6:51
which
6:51
is
6:51
often
6:52
attributed
6:52
to
6:53
Tim
6:53
Burton
6:53
as
6:54
director.
6:54
It's
6:54
not.
6:55
It's
6:55
Henry
6:55
Selleck.
6:56
Henry
6:56
Selick
6:57
also
6:57
directed
6:57
Coraline.
6:58
The
6:58
Night
6:59
Before
6:59
Christmas
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came
7:00
out
7:00
in
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1993.
7:02
Tim
7:02
Burton
7:02
was
7:03
actually
7:03
the
7:03
director
7:04
of
7:04
Corpse
7:04
Bride.
7:05
That
7:05
came
7:06
out
7:06
in
7:06
2003.
7:07
You
7:08
could
7:08
argue.
7:08
There's
7:08
also
7:09
movies
7:09
like
7:10
the
7:10
Secret
7:10
of
7:10
Nim
7:11
and
7:11
the
7:11
Black
7:11
Cauldron
7:12
that
7:12
also
7:12
embrace
7:13
that
7:13
horror
7:14
edge.
7:15
Maybe
7:16
less
7:16
obviously
7:16
so
7:16
than
7:17
some
7:17
of
7:17
the
7:17
others.
7:18
These
7:18
movies
7:19
that
7:19
I'm
7:19
talking
7:19
about
7:19
are
7:20
all
7:20
previous
7:20
episodes
7:21
of
7:21
this
7:21
podcast,
7:22
by
7:22
the
7:22
way.
7:23
So
7:23
please
7:23
go
7:23
and
7:24
have
7:24
a
7:24
listen
7:24
to
7:24
all
7:24
of
7:24
those
7:25
episodes.
7:25
But
7:26
ParaNorman
7:27
walks
7:27
that
7:27
fine
7:27
line
7:28
between
7:28
genuine
7:29
scares
7:29
and
7:30
having
7:30
an
7:30
important
7:31
message
7:31
of
7:31
tolerance,
7:32
acceptance,
7:33
and,
7:34
I
7:34
don't
7:35
know,
7:35
maybe
7:36
don't
7:36
kill
7:36
children.
7:37
Here's
7:38
the
7:38
trailer
7:38
for
7:39
ParaNorman.
10:05
Norman
10:06
Babcock
10:07
has
10:07
a
10:07
special
10:07
ability
10:08
to
10:08
see
10:08
and
10:08
communicate
10:09
with
10:09
the
10:09
dead.
10:10
This
10:10
ability
10:11
gets
10:11
him
10:11
constantly
10:12
bullied
10:12
at
10:12
school
10:13
because
10:13
everyone
10:13
thinks
10:14
he's
10:14
crazy.
10:15
After
10:16
his
10:16
sudden
10:17
death,
10:17
Norman's
10:18
great
10:18
uncle,
10:19
Mr.
10:19
Prendergast,
10:20
approaches
10:20
him
10:20
as
10:21
a
10:21
ghost
10:21
to
10:22
tell
10:22
Norman
10:22
about
10:22
the
10:23
upcoming
10:23
zombie
10:24
uprising
10:25
300
10:25
years
10:26
ago.
10:26
The
10:26
members
10:26
of
10:26
Norman's
10:27
town
10:27
sentenced
10:28
a
10:28
witch
10:28
to
10:28
death
10:29
and
10:29
she
10:30
put
10:30
a
10:30
curse
10:30
upon
10:30
the
10:30
town.
10:31
Norman
10:32
must
10:32
go
10:32
to
10:32
her
10:32
grave
10:33
before
10:33
sunset
10:34
and
10:34
read
10:34
from
10:34
a
10:35
book
10:35
to
10:35
stop
10:35
the
10:35
curse.
10:36
But
10:36
Norman
10:37
is
10:37
stopped
10:38
by
10:38
the
10:38
local
10:38
bully
10:39
and
10:39
zombies
10:39
rise
10:40
from
10:40
the
10:40
dead.
10:42
Let's
10:42
run
10:42
through
10:43
the
10:43
cast
10:43
of
10:43
this
10:44
movie.
10:44
This
10:44
is
10:44
a
10:44
stacked
10:45
cast
10:45
as
10:45
well
10:45
for
10:46
an
10:46
animated
10:46
movie.
10:47
We
10:47
have
10:47
Cody
10:48
Smit
10:48
McPhee
10:49
as
10:49
Norman
10:49
Babcock,
10:50
Tucker
10:50
Albrizzi
10:51
as
10:51
Neil
10:52
Down,
10:52
Anna
10:53
Kendrick
10:53
as
10:54
Courtney
10:54
Babcock,
10:55
Casey
10:56
Affleck
10:56
as
10:56
Mitch
10:57
Down,
10:57
Christopher
10:58
Mintz
10:58
Plass
10:59
as
10:59
Alvin,
11:00
Leslie
11:00
Mann
11:01
as
11:01
Sandra
11:01
Babcock,
11:02
Jeff
11:03
Garland
11:03
as
11:03
Perry
11:04
Babcock,
11:05
Elaine
11:05
Stritch
11:06
as
11:06
Grandma
11:06
Babcock,
11:07
Bernard
11:08
Hill
11:08
as
11:08
Judge
11:09
Hopkins,
11:10
Jodelle
11:10
Thurland
11:11
as
11:11
Agatha
11:12
Prendergast,
11:13
Tempest
11:13
Bledsoe
11:14
as
11:14
Sheriff
11:15
Hooper,
11:16
Alex
11:16
Borstein
11:17
as
11:17
Mrs.
11:17
Hencher
11:18
and
11:18
John
11:19
Goodman
11:19
as
11:20
Mr.
11:20
Prendergast.
11:21
ParaNorman
11:22
was
11:22
written
11:23
by
11:23
Chris
11:24
Butler
11:24
and
11:25
directed
11:25
by
11:25
Sam
11:26
Fell
11:26
and
11:26
Chris
11:27
Butler.
11:28
So
11:29
after
11:29
the
11:29
release
11:29
of
11:30
Coraline
11:30
in
11:30
2009,
11:31
which
11:32
garnered
11:32
an
11:32
Academy
11:33
Award,
11:33
Bafta
11:34
and
11:34
Golden
11:34
Globe
11:35
nominations
11:35
for
11:35
Best
11:36
Animated
11:36
Feature
11:37
as
11:37
well
11:37
as
11:37
winning
11:38
three
11:38
Annie
11:38
awards,
11:39
Leica
11:40
Studios,
11:41
which
11:41
was
11:41
developing
11:41
both
11:42
stop
11:42
motion
11:43
and
11:43
CGI
11:43
features
11:44
in
11:44
the
11:44
late
11:44
2000s,
11:45
ended
11:46
up
11:46
laying
11:46
off
11:46
the
11:46
majority
11:47
of
11:47
the
11:47
staff
11:47
in
11:48
the
11:48
computer
11:48
animation
11:49
department,
11:50
and
11:50
this
11:50
was
11:50
to
11:51
focus
11:51
exclusively
11:52
on
11:52
stop
11:53
motion.
11:53
In
11:54
many
11:54
ways
11:54
it
11:54
was
11:54
a
11:54
bold
11:55
decision,
11:55
especially
11:55
when
11:56
CG
11:56
animation
11:57
is
11:57
so
11:57
lucrative.
11:58
But
11:59
what
11:59
we
11:59
can
11:59
say
11:59
about
12:00
Laika
12:00
is
12:00
they
12:01
have
12:01
never
12:01
been
12:01
one
12:02
to
12:02
follow
12:02
the
12:02
leader.
12:03
And
12:03
so
12:04
not
12:04
only
12:04
was
12:04
Leica
12:05
moving
12:05
forward
12:05
in
12:06
stop
12:06
motion,
12:07
but
12:07
without
12:07
Henry
12:08
Selleck,
12:08
the
12:09
director
12:09
of
12:09
Coraline,
12:10
it
12:10
was
12:11
also
12:11
going
12:11
to
12:11
focus
12:12
on
12:12
family
12:12
friendly
12:13
horror,
12:13
which
12:14
isn't
12:14
really
12:15
something
12:15
that
12:15
tends
12:15
to
12:15
go
12:16
together,
12:16
but
12:17
they'd
12:17
already
12:17
done
12:17
it
12:17
with
12:18
Coraline,
12:18
which
12:18
had
12:19
enough
12:19
spookiness,
12:20
and
12:20
also
12:21
other
12:21
mothers
12:22
with
12:22
buttons
12:22
for
12:22
eyes,
12:23
which
12:23
still
12:24
freaks
12:24
me
12:24
out
12:24
to
12:24
this
12:25
day.
12:25
Coraline
12:26
is
12:26
episode
12:26
63
12:27
of
12:27
this
12:27
podcast,
12:28
by
12:28
the
12:28
way,
12:29
so
12:29
it
12:29
was
12:29
way
12:30
back
12:30
in
12:30
the
12:30
90s
12:30
when
12:31
Chris
12:31
Butler
12:31
originally
12:32
thought
12:32
of
12:32
making
12:33
a
12:33
stop
12:33
motion
12:34
zombie
12:35
movie.
12:35
Zombie
12:36
movies
12:37
always
12:37
contained
12:38
social
12:38
commentary
12:39
and
12:39
used
12:39
zombies
12:40
as
12:40
a
12:40
metaphor,
12:41
so
12:42
why
12:42
not
12:42
also
12:43
use
12:43
that
12:43
for
12:44
a
12:44
school
12:45
based
12:45
situation
12:46
with
12:47
children
12:47
as
12:47
the
12:48
protagonists?
12:49
He
12:49
wanted
12:49
to
12:50
juxtapose
12:50
the
12:50
horror
12:51
of
12:51
being
12:51
a
12:51
zombie
12:51
to
12:52
the
12:52
horror
12:52
of
12:52
being
12:52
a
12:53
pre
12:53
teen
12:53
kid.
12:54
He
12:54
took
12:55
inspiration
12:55
from
12:55
Scooby
12:56
Doo,
12:56
Ghostbusters
12:57
and
12:57
the
12:57
Goonies
12:58
as
12:58
well
12:58
as
12:59
Universal's
13:00
very
13:00
own
13:00
horror
13:01
movie
13:01
history
13:02
with
13:02
Paranorman.
13:03
Also
13:03
taking
13:03
advantage
13:04
of
13:05
Universal's
13:05
centenary
13:06
in
13:07
2012,
13:08
ParaNorman's
13:09
script
13:09
started
13:09
to
13:10
come
13:10
together
13:10
during
13:10
the
13:10
production
13:11
of
13:11
Coraline
13:12
and
13:12
Sam
13:13
Fell
13:13
had
13:13
gone
13:13
to
13:13
the
13:14
studio
13:14
to
13:14
look
13:14
at
13:14
a
13:15
number
13:15
of
13:15
projects
13:15
with
13:16
the
13:16
idea
13:16
to
13:16
help
13:16
out,
13:17
but
13:18
he
13:18
was
13:18
drawn
13:19
to
13:19
ParaNorman.
13:20
It
13:20
turned
13:20
out
13:21
both
13:21
Chris
13:21
Butler
13:22
and
13:22
Sam
13:22
Fell
13:22
like
13:22
the
13:23
same
13:23
movies,
13:23
had
13:24
the
13:24
same
13:24
ideas
13:24
and
13:25
talked
13:25
about
13:25
the
13:25
same
13:26
references.
13:26
So
13:27
it
13:27
was
13:27
a
13:27
natural
13:27
conclusion
13:28
that
13:28
Fell
13:29
came
13:29
on
13:29
board
13:29
to
13:29
co
13:30
direct
13:30
ParaNorman
13:31
in
13:31
2009.
13:32
During
13:33
the
13:33
writing
13:33
process,
13:34
Butler
13:34
went
13:34
to
13:35
New
13:35
England
13:35
to
13:35
explore
13:36
and
13:36
get
13:36
a
13:36
feel
13:36
for
13:36
the
13:37
region.
13:37
Then
13:38
after
13:38
the
13:38
movie
13:38
got
13:39
a
13:39
green
13:39
light,
13:40
both
13:40
he
13:40
and
13:40
Fel
13:41
went
13:41
out
13:41
to
13:41
Massachusetts
13:42
on
13:42
a
13:42
more
13:43
extensive
13:43
trip
13:44
with
13:44
ParaNorman
13:45
production
13:45
designer
13:46
Nelson
13:46
Lowry.
13:47
They
13:47
took
13:47
more
13:47
than
13:48
4000
13:48
photos
13:49
of
13:49
everything
13:50
from
13:50
gardens
13:51
to
13:51
building
13:51
structures
13:52
to
13:52
rustic
13:53
woods.
13:53
The
13:54
digital
13:54
photos
13:55
were
13:55
then
13:55
printed
13:55
out
13:55
and
13:56
pinned
13:56
up
13:56
for
13:56
reference,
13:57
including
13:58
houses
13:58
that
13:59
were
13:59
dilapidated.
14:00
They
14:00
even
14:00
took
14:01
photos
14:01
from
14:01
a
14:01
child's
14:02
perspective
14:02
with
14:03
the
14:03
idea
14:03
to
14:03
make
14:04
the
14:04
buildings
14:04
seem
14:05
even
14:05
more
14:05
imposing.
14:07
Now
14:07
I
14:07
mentioned
14:07
a
14:08
couple
14:08
of
14:08
episodes
14:08
ago
14:08
on
14:09
Turning
14:09
Red
14:09
that
14:09
animation
14:10
allows
14:10
you
14:10
to
14:10
depict
14:11
certain
14:11
things
14:11
in
14:12
a
14:12
more
14:12
palatable
14:13
way
14:13
than
14:13
live
14:14
action
14:14
does.
14:15
And
14:15
zombies
14:16
are
14:16
a
14:16
great
14:16
example
14:17
of
14:17
this
14:17
because
14:17
it's
14:18
hard
14:18
to
14:19
not
14:19
make
14:19
live
14:20
action
14:20
zombies
14:21
too
14:21
dark
14:21
and
14:21
scary.
14:22
They
14:23
are
14:23
the
14:23
backbone
14:24
of
14:24
horror
14:25
cinema
14:25
for
14:25
very
14:26
good
14:26
reason,
14:26
but
14:27
with
14:27
animation
14:28
the
14:28
designs
14:28
can
14:28
look
14:29
a
14:29
little
14:29
more
14:29
cartoonish.
14:30
But
14:31
fundamentally
14:32
this
14:32
is
14:32
a
14:33
movie
14:33
that
14:33
is
14:33
making
14:33
somewhat
14:34
light
14:34
of
14:35
very
14:35
real,
14:36
very
14:36
gruesome
14:36
events.
14:37
Not
14:37
in
14:38
Blythe
14:38
Hollow,
14:38
Massachusetts
14:39
which
14:39
is
14:39
made
14:40
up
14:40
for
14:40
the
14:40
movie,
14:41
but
14:41
in
14:41
Salem,
14:42
Massachusetts.
14:43
In
14:44
fact,
14:44
as
14:45
part
14:45
of
14:45
Salem,
14:46
Massachusetts
14:47
iconic
14:47
Salem
14:48
Haunted
14:48
Happenings,
14:49
which
14:49
is
14:49
a
14:49
month
14:50
long
14:50
Halloween
14:51
festival,
14:51
LYCA
14:52
partnered
14:52
with
14:52
the
14:53
Peabody
14:53
Essex
14:54
Museum,
14:54
the
14:54
City
14:54
of
14:55
Salem
14:55
and
14:55
Creative
14:56
Collective
14:57
to
14:57
present
14:57
a
14:57
series
14:58
of
14:58
10th
14:58
anniversary
14:59
ParaNorman
15:00
screenings
15:00
and
15:00
live
15:01
events
15:01
in
15:02
October
15:02
2022
15:03
honoring
15:04
Salem's
15:04
influence
15:05
on
15:05
the
15:05
setting
15:05
and
15:06
story
15:06
of
15:06
ParaNorman.
15:08
So
15:08
this
15:08
is
15:09
not
15:09
just
15:09
some
15:10
coincidence
15:10
that
15:10
ParaNorman
15:11
is
15:11
set
15:12
in
15:12
Massachusetts.
15:13
And
15:13
this
15:13
isn't
15:14
the
15:14
only
15:14
movie
15:14
that's
15:15
been
15:15
inspired
15:15
by
15:15
the
15:16
Salem
15:16
Witch
15:16
Trials.
15:17
Movies
15:17
like
15:18
the
15:18
Crucible,
15:18
Hocus
15:19
Pocus,
15:20
the
15:20
Covenant
15:20
and
15:20
the
15:21
Autopsy
15:21
of
15:21
Jane
15:22
Doe
15:22
are
15:22
all
15:23
inspired
15:23
to
15:23
a
15:24
degree.
15:24
Obviously
15:25
Hocus
15:25
Pocus
15:26
is
15:26
very
15:26
family
15:27
friendly
15:27
leaning,
15:28
but
15:28
an
15:28
animated
15:29
story
15:29
based
15:29
on
15:29
the
15:30
Salem
15:30
Witch
15:30
Trials
15:31
is
15:32
a
15:32
fairly
15:32
unique
15:33
prospect.
15:33
We
15:33
are
15:34
talking,
15:34
after
15:34
all
15:35
about
15:35
the
15:35
execution
15:36
by
15:36
hanging
15:37
of
15:37
14
15:37
women
15:38
and
15:38
five
15:38
men
15:39
with
15:39
over
15:39
200
15:40
accused
15:40
of
15:41
witchcraft
15:41
between
15:42
February
15:43
1692
15:44
and
15:44
May
15:45
1693.
15:46
It
15:46
was
15:46
only
15:47
in
15:47
2022
15:48
when
15:48
the
15:48
last
15:49
convicted
15:49
Salem
15:50
witch,
15:50
Elizabeth
15:51
Johnson
15:51
Jr.
15:52
Was
15:52
officially
15:53
exonerated
15:54
three
15:54
hundred
15:55
and
15:55
twenty
15:56
nine
15:56
years
15:57
after
15:57
she
15:57
had
15:58
been
15:58
found
15:58
guilty
15:59
of
15:59
witchcraft.
16:00
Mob
16:01
mentality
16:02
is
16:02
unfortunately
16:03
not
16:03
a
16:03
21st
16:04
century
16:04
thing.
16:05
And
16:05
the
16:05
dangers
16:06
of
16:06
baseless
16:06
accusations
16:07
and
16:07
more
16:08
importantly,
16:08
the
16:09
fear
16:09
of
16:09
the
16:09
quote
16:10
other
16:11
is
16:11
a
16:11
theme
16:11
that
16:12
ParaNorman
16:12
explores
16:13
remarkably
16:13
frankly
16:14
for
16:15
a
16:15
family
16:15
movie.
16:16
We
16:16
discover
16:17
that
16:17
Norman
16:17
might
16:18
be
16:18
called
16:18
Norman,
16:18
but
16:19
he's
16:19
really
16:19
not
16:20
the
16:20
norm,
16:21
that
16:21
there's
16:21
a
16:21
strange
16:22
family
16:22
trait
16:22
that
16:23
he's
16:23
descended
16:23
from
16:23
the
16:24
Prendergast
16:24
family
16:25
and
16:25
that
16:25
means
16:26
that
16:26
he
16:26
can
16:26
talk
16:26
to
16:27
the
16:27
dead.
16:27
This
16:28
is
16:28
a
16:28
movie
16:28
full
16:28
of
16:29
ghosts,
16:29
a
16:30
multitude
16:30
of
16:30
ghosts,
16:31
you
16:31
might
16:31
say,
16:32
ghosts
16:32
from
16:32
all
16:33
walks
16:33
of
16:33
life
16:33
throughout
16:34
history.
16:35
We
16:35
get
16:35
a
16:35
hippie
16:36
ghost,
16:36
a
16:37
Civil
16:37
War
16:38
soldier
16:38
ghost
16:38
saluting
16:39
Norman,
16:40
a
16:40
1950s
16:41
greaser
16:41
type
16:42
of
16:42
ghost,
16:43
a
16:43
gangster
16:43
who
16:44
seems
16:44
to
16:44
be
16:44
sleeping
16:45
with
16:45
the
16:45
fishes,
16:46
and
16:46
even
16:46
someone
16:47
who
16:47
may
16:47
or
16:47
may
16:47
not
16:48
be
16:48
Amelia
16:48
Earhart
16:49
stuck
16:50
in
16:50
one
16:50
of
16:50
the
16:50
trees.
16:51
And
16:51
because
16:52
Norman
16:52
has
16:52
this
16:52
strange
16:53
gift,
16:54
they're
16:54
really
16:54
the
16:55
only
16:55
people
16:55
that
16:55
he
16:56
talks
16:56
to.
16:57
He
16:57
doesn't
16:57
seem
16:57
to
16:57
fit
16:58
in
16:58
at
16:58
school,
16:58
he's
16:59
being
16:59
bullied,
17:00
and
17:00
he
17:00
can
17:00
also
17:00
talk
17:01
to
17:01
the
17:01
dead.
17:01
And
17:02
the
17:02
dead
17:02
seem
17:03
to
17:03
understand
17:03
him
17:04
better
17:04
than
17:05
the
17:05
living
17:05
seem
17:05
to
17:06
understand
17:06
him.
17:07
However,
17:07
he
17:07
does
17:08
find
17:08
a
17:08
kindred
17:08
spirit
17:09
in
17:10
school
17:10
friend
17:10
Neil
17:11
Down.
17:12
Now,
17:12
having
17:12
two
17:13
or
17:13
more
17:13
directors
17:13
on
17:14
an
17:14
animated
17:14
movie
17:15
is
17:15
fairly
17:15
commonplace,
17:16
but
17:17
it's
17:17
also
17:17
quite
17:18
easy
17:18
when
17:18
you
17:18
do
17:18
have
17:19
two
17:19
directors
17:20
that
17:20
they
17:20
may
17:21
have
17:21
two
17:21
different
17:21
visions
17:22
for
17:22
the
17:22
movie.
17:23
Luckily,
17:24
Chris
17:24
Butler
17:24
and
17:25
Sam
17:25
Fell
17:25
were
17:25
very
17:26
unified
17:26
on
17:26
the
17:27
look
17:27
and
17:27
feel
17:27
of
17:27
ParaNorman,
17:28
and
17:29
they
17:29
really
17:29
needed
17:29
to
17:30
be,
17:30
because
17:30
ParaNorman
17:31
took
17:31
three
17:32
years
17:32
to
17:32
move
17:33
from
17:33
drawings
17:34
to
17:34
sets
17:35
to
17:35
shooting
17:36
to
17:36
screen,
17:36
and
17:37
was
17:37
the
17:37
biggest
17:37
production
17:38
ever
17:38
to
17:38
be
17:38
made
17:38
in
17:39
stop
17:39
motion
17:39
animation,
17:40
at
17:40
the
17:40
time
17:41
being
17:41
only
17:41
the
17:41
third
17:42
stop
17:42
motion
17:42
movie
17:43
to
17:43
be
17:43
made
17:43
in
17:44
stereoscopic
17:44
3D,
17:45
following
17:46
Lyca's
17:46
very
17:47
own
17:47
Coraline
17:48
and
17:48
Aardman's
17:49
the
17:49
Pirates
17:50
in
17:50
An
17:50
Adventure
17:50
with
17:50
Scientists.
17:52
As
17:52
I
17:52
said,
17:52
Coraline
17:53
is
17:53
a
17:53
previous
17:53
episode
17:53
of
17:54
this
17:54
podcast.
17:54
It
17:55
is
17:55
episode
17:55
63.
17:56
The
17:56
Pirates
17:57
in
17:57
an
17:57
Adventure
17:57
with
17:58
Scientists
17:58
is
17:59
episode
17:59
192.
18:01
The
18:02
Design
18:02
of
18:02
the
18:02
characters
18:03
and
18:03
their
18:03
home
18:03
was
18:04
imperative
18:04
to
18:05
how
18:05
that
18:05
mix
18:05
of
18:05
animation
18:06
and
18:06
horror
18:06
would
18:07
come
18:07
off.
18:07
Character
18:08
designer
18:08
Heidi
18:09
Smith,
18:10
then
18:10
a
18:10
recent
18:10
CalArts
18:11
graduate,
18:12
made
18:12
monochrome
18:13
pencil
18:13
on
18:13
paper
18:14
sketches
18:14
and
18:15
her
18:15
work
18:15
was
18:15
used
18:16
as
18:16
a
18:16
rough
18:16
edge
18:17
template
18:17
for
18:17
things
18:18
to
18:18
be
18:18
a
18:19
bit
18:19
wonky
18:20
in
18:20
Blythe
18:20
Hollow,
18:21
for
18:21
things
18:21
to
18:21
clearly
18:22
be
18:22
a
18:22
bit
18:22
off.
18:23
They
18:23
wanted
18:24
the
18:24
town
18:24
to
18:24
have
18:24
a
18:25
stylised
18:25
perspective,
18:26
but
18:26
also
18:27
a
18:27
contemporary
18:28
setting.
18:28
Her
18:29
drawings
18:29
didn't
18:29
only
18:30
comprise
18:30
the
18:30
town,
18:31
but
18:31
also
18:32
the
18:32
various
18:32
characters,
18:33
which
18:33
were
18:33
then
18:33
adapted
18:34
by
18:34
character
18:34
sculptor
18:35
Kent
18:35
Melton
18:36
into
18:36
Clay
18:36
Maquettes
18:38
the
18:38
movie
18:38
also
18:38
opens
18:39
with
18:39
a
18:39
pastiche
18:40
of
18:40
a
18:40
grindhouse
18:41
zombie
18:41
flick,
18:42
complete
18:42
with
18:43
scratched
18:43
film,
18:44
poor
18:44
framing
18:45
and
18:45
your
18:45
classic
18:46
scream
18:46
queen.
18:47
Only
18:47
she's
18:48
battling
18:48
away
18:48
boom
18:49
mics
18:49
rather
18:49
than
18:50
zombies.
18:51
It
18:51
turns
18:51
out
18:51
that
18:51
this
18:52
is
18:52
what
18:52
young
18:52
Norman
18:53
Babcock
18:53
likes
18:54
to
18:54
watch.
18:54
And
18:55
at
18:55
least
18:55
it's
18:55
not
18:55
sex
18:56
and
18:56
violence,
18:56
right?
18:57
Paranormal's
18:58
animators
18:58
got
18:58
into
18:59
the
18:59
requisite
18:59
mindset
19:00
by
19:00
looking
19:00
at
19:00
not
19:01
only
19:01
zombie
19:01
movies,
19:02
but
19:02
but
19:02
also
19:03
movies
19:03
like
19:03
Frankenstein
19:04
and
19:04
Nosferatu,
19:05
among
19:06
other
19:06
classic
19:07
scary
19:07
movies.
19:08
But
19:08
Leica
19:09
intentionally
19:10
making
19:10
a
19:10
bad
19:11
looking
19:11
movie
19:11
in
19:12
a
19:12
movie
19:13
wasn't
19:13
the
19:13
easiest
19:14
thing
19:14
for
19:14
them.
19:15
Because
19:15
we
19:15
know
19:16
that
19:16
Leica
19:16
are
19:17
perfectionists
19:17
and
19:18
trying
19:18
to
19:18
make
19:19
something
19:19
bad
19:19
is
19:20
actually
19:20
really
19:21
really
19:21
difficult.
19:22
In
19:23
total,
19:23
the
19:23
three
19:23
year
19:24
production
19:24
of
19:24
ParaNorman
19:25
took
19:25
place
19:25
in
19:26
a
19:26
151,000
19:27
square
19:27
foot
19:28
building
19:28
at
19:29
Leica
19:29
Studios
19:29
in
19:30
Hillsborough,
19:30
Oregon.
19:31
It
19:31
had
19:32
more
19:32
than
19:32
320
19:33
designers,
19:34
artists,
19:34
animators
19:35
and
19:35
technicians
19:36
on
19:36
staff.
19:37
There
19:37
were
19:38
52
19:38
separate
19:39
shooting
19:39
units
19:39
and
19:40
they
19:40
were
19:40
operating
19:41
virtually
19:41
continuously
19:42
during
19:42
the
19:43
production.
19:43
At
19:44
the
19:44
time,
19:44
it
19:44
was
19:44
the
19:45
joint
19:45
most
19:45
ever
19:45
stages
19:46
used
19:46
in
19:46
a
19:47
stop
19:47
motion
19:47
animated
19:48
film.
19:48
Only
19:49
Coraline
19:50
had
19:50
used
19:50
as
19:51
many.
19:51
ParaNorman,
19:52
however,
19:53
had
19:53
more
19:53
stop
19:53
motion
19:54
puppets
19:54
than
19:54
that
19:54
it
19:55
had
19:55
used
19:55
on
19:55
screen
19:56
before.
19:56
Four
19:57
of
19:57
the
19:57
stages
19:58
made
19:58
up
19:58
the
19:58
Blythe
19:58
Hollow
19:59
town
19:59
square
20:00
which
20:00
was
20:00
created
20:01
by
20:01
18
20:01
carpenters,
20:02
18
20:03
model
20:03
builders,
20:04
6
20:04
riggers,
20:05
12
20:05
scenic
20:05
painters,
20:06
11
20:07
greens
20:07
artists
20:08
and
20:08
10
20:08
set
20:08
dressers.
20:09
Everything
20:10
you
20:10
see
20:11
is
20:11
completely
20:11
hand
20:12
built.
20:12
Even
20:13
roads
20:13
were
20:13
hand
20:14
built.
20:15
300ft
20:15
of
20:16
country
20:16
road
20:16
were
20:17
created
20:17
out
20:17
of
20:17
recycled
20:18
plywood
20:19
coated
20:19
with
20:20
three
20:20
types
20:20
of
20:20
paint.
20:21
2000
20:22
trees
20:22
were
20:23
made
20:23
from
20:23
shredded
20:23
cardboard
20:24
to
20:24
create
20:24
the
20:25
forests.
20:26
Every
20:26
single
20:26
horror
20:27
movie
20:27
poster
20:28
in
20:28
Norman's
20:28
room
20:28
was
20:29
hand
20:29
drawn
20:30
and
20:30
his
20:30
room
20:30
designed
20:31
to
20:31
look
20:31
like
20:32
a
20:32
young
20:32
boy's
20:32
bedroom.
20:33
And
20:34
the
20:34
inspiration
20:34
for
20:35
Norman's
20:35
middle
20:36
school
20:36
came
20:36
from
20:37
Nelson
20:37
Lowry's
20:38
own
20:38
local
20:39
middle
20:39
school.
20:40
The
20:40
Blythe
20:41
Middle
20:41
School
20:41
set
20:42
had
20:42
an
20:42
eight
20:43
foot
20:43
high
20:43
facade
20:44
and
20:44
was
20:44
built
20:45
as
20:45
a
20:45
sandbag
20:46
anchored
20:46
elevated
20:47
structure
20:47
to
20:47
reinforce
20:48
Norman's
20:49
apprehension
20:49
about
20:49
going
20:50
in
20:50
each
20:50
day.
20:51
It
20:51
took
20:51
nearly
20:52
four
20:52
months
20:52
to
20:52
create
20:53
on
20:53
a
20:53
soundstage
20:54
at
20:54
Leica
20:54
Studios
20:55
when
20:55
the
20:55
fluorescent
20:56
classroom
20:56
lights
20:57
visible
20:57
through
20:57
the
20:57
windows
20:58
are
20:58
actually
20:59
made
20:59
of
20:59
pieces
21:00
of
21:00
foam.
21:01
While
21:01
the
21:01
sets
21:02
they
21:02
had
21:02
were
21:02
already
21:03
large.
21:03
Leichel
21:04
also
21:04
wanted
21:04
to
21:04
increase
21:05
the
21:05
scope
21:05
of
21:05
the
21:06
stop
21:06
motion
21:06
world
21:07
using
21:07
digital
21:08
set
21:08
extensions.
21:09
As
21:10
real
21:10
buildings
21:10
and
21:10
set
21:11
dressings
21:11
were
21:11
being
21:11
created
21:12
for
21:12
stage
21:13
visual
21:13
effects,
21:13
artists
21:14
were
21:14
photographing,
21:15
scanning,
21:15
modeling
21:16
and
21:16
texturing
21:17
digital
21:17
versions
21:18
to
21:18
ensure
21:18
they
21:19
could
21:19
seamlessly
21:19
extend
21:20
the
21:20
environment.
21:21
Once
21:22
the
21:22
world
21:22
was
21:22
made
21:23
much
21:23
larger,
21:23
it
21:24
was
21:24
populated
21:24
with
21:25
digital
21:25
background
21:26
characters.
21:27
Some
21:27
shots
21:27
contained
21:28
hundreds
21:28
of
21:28
angry
21:29
Townspeople
21:29
rioting
21:30
in
21:30
the
21:30
streets
21:31
and
21:31
the
21:31
largest
21:32
crowd
21:32
shot
21:32
in
21:33
ParaNorman
21:33
contained
21:34
over
21:34
4,000
21:35
CG
21:36
extras.
21:37
But
21:38
CG
21:38
extras
21:38
are
21:39
one
21:39
thing.
21:39
The
21:40
actual
21:40
puppets
21:41
that
21:41
they
21:41
use
21:42
to
21:42
do
21:42
stop
21:42
motion
21:43
movies
21:43
are
21:43
something
21:44
else.
21:44
Completely
21:45
different.
21:45
I've
21:46
talked
21:46
about
21:46
stop
21:46
motion
21:47
puppets
21:47
a
21:47
lot
21:48
in
21:48
the
21:48
past.
21:49
But
21:49
moving
21:49
on
21:50
from
21:50
Coraline,
21:51
Laika
21:51
really
21:52
wanted
21:52
to
21:52
step
21:52
up
21:53
the
21:53
production
21:54
of
21:54
these
21:54
puppets.
21:55
The
21:55
zombie
21:56
characters
21:56
were
21:56
the
21:56
only
21:57
characters
21:57
that
21:57
had
21:58
mechanical
21:58
faces.
21:59
They
21:59
were
21:59
made
21:59
of
22:00
rubber
22:00
and
22:00
silicone
22:01
and
22:01
contained
22:01
clock
22:02
gears
22:02
for
22:02
movement.
22:03
Every
22:03
other
22:04
character
22:04
in
22:04
Paranormal
22:05
has
22:06
replacement
22:06
faces.
22:07
And
22:08
replacement
22:08
faces
22:09
were
22:09
printed
22:10
using
22:10
a
22:10
technique
22:11
known
22:11
as
22:11
rapid
22:12
prototyping.
22:13
And
22:13
ParaNorman
22:14
was
22:14
the
22:14
first
22:14
stop
22:15
motion
22:15
movie
22:15
to
22:16
use
22:16
full
22:16
color
22:17
3D
22:17
printers
22:18
for
22:18
replacement
22:19
animation.
22:20
The
22:20
team
22:20
was
22:20
able
22:21
to
22:21
create
22:21
the
22:21
numerous
22:22
puppet
22:22
faces
22:23
needed
22:23
for
22:23
the
22:23
movie.
22:24
And
22:24
that
22:24
was
22:24
mostly
22:25
because
22:25
Coraline
22:26
pioneered
22:26
and
22:27
popularized
22:28
the
22:28
use
22:28
of
22:28
black
22:29
and
22:29
white
22:29
3D
22:30
printers,
22:30
which
22:31
significantly
22:31
accelerated
22:32
the
22:32
puppet
22:33
production
22:33
process.
22:34
Try
22:34
saying
22:35
that
22:35
really
22:35
fast
22:35
while
22:36
you're
22:36
drunk.
22:37
For
22:37
ParaNorman,
22:38
over
22:38
31,000
22:39
separate
22:40
face
22:40
parts
22:40
were
22:40
printed.
22:41
There
22:41
were
22:42
four
22:42
color
22:42
printers
22:43
that
22:43
were
22:43
active
22:44
for
22:44
a
22:44
total
22:45
of
22:45
572
22:46
days
22:47
of
22:47
straight
22:47
print
22:48
time.
22:48
The
22:49
faces
22:49
comprised
22:50
1257
22:52
archival
22:52
boxes
22:53
were
22:53
produced
22:54
using
22:54
a
22:55
10
22:55
step
22:55
rapid
22:56
prototyping
22:57
process
22:57
that
22:58
required
22:58
5
22:58
to
22:58
6
22:59
hours
22:59
for
22:59
cleaning
22:59
and
23:00
coating.
23:01
The
23:01
3D
23:01
printer
23:02
was
23:02
so
23:02
intricate,
23:03
it
23:03
could
23:03
add
23:04
skin
23:04
translucency
23:05
and
23:05
color
23:06
variations.
23:07
For
23:07
the
23:07
61
23:08
characters
23:08
in
23:08
the
23:09
movie,
23:09
178
23:10
distinct
23:11
puppets
23:11
were
23:11
made.
23:12
More
23:12
than
23:13
8,000
23:13
faces
23:14
and
23:14
28
23:15
full
23:15
body
23:15
puppets
23:16
were
23:16
made
23:17
just
23:17
for
23:17
Norman.
23:18
48
23:19
animators,
23:20
riggers
23:20
and
23:21
modelers
23:21
comprised
23:22
Leica's
23:22
rapid
23:23
prototyping
23:24
department.
23:25
Norman,
23:26
with
23:26
his
23:26
more
23:27
than
23:27
8,000
23:28
faces
23:28
and
23:29
all
23:29
of
23:29
his
23:29
individual
23:29
pieces,
23:30
including
23:30
brows
23:31
and
23:31
mouths,
23:32
meant
23:32
the
23:32
team
23:33
could
23:33
animate
23:33
1.5
23:35
million
23:35
possible
23:36
facial
23:36
expressions.
23:37
Each
23:38
of
23:38
his
23:38
puppets
23:38
was
23:39
also
23:39
9
23:39
inches
23:40
tall.
23:40
His
23:41
armature
23:41
had
23:41
122
23:42
individual
23:43
parts,
23:43
including
23:44
80
23:44
different
23:45
metal
23:45
components.
23:46
And
23:46
Norman,
23:47
as
23:47
the
23:47
main
23:47
character
23:48
on
23:48
the
23:48
movie,
23:49
was
23:49
the
23:49
first
23:50
puppet
23:50
that
23:50
they
23:51
made
23:51
for
23:51
this
23:51
movie.
23:52
But
23:53
if
23:53
you
23:53
have
23:53
puppets,
23:54
they
23:54
can't
23:54
be
23:55
walking
23:55
around
23:55
naked.
23:56
They
23:56
also
23:56
have
23:56
to
23:56
have
23:57
intricately
23:58
detailed
23:59
miniature
23:59
clothing
23:59
as
24:00
well.
24:00
120
24:01
different
24:02
costumes
24:02
were
24:02
also
24:03
made
24:03
for
24:03
the
24:03
film,
24:04
and
24:04
these
24:04
were
24:04
also
24:05
made
24:05
by
24:05
hand
24:06
as
24:06
well
24:06
by
24:07
the
24:07
costume
24:07
team
24:08
led
24:08
by
24:08
costume
24:09
designer
24:09
Deborah
24:10
Cook.
24:10
They
24:10
were
24:11
all
24:11
made
24:11
with
24:11
locally
24:12
sourced
24:12
or
24:12
recycled
24:13
materials.
24:14
Wherever
24:14
possible.
24:15
To
24:15
plan
24:16
the
24:16
costumes,
24:17
a
24:17
real
24:17
person
24:18
of
24:18
comparable
24:18
real
24:19
life
24:19
height
24:19
and
24:20
stature
24:20
to
24:20
the
24:20
character
24:21
would
24:21
walk
24:22
around
24:22
in
24:22
an
24:22
outfit.
24:23
So
24:23
Cook's
24:24
department
24:24
could
24:25
see
24:25
how
24:25
the
24:25
planned
24:26
costumes
24:26
hung
24:27
and
24:27
flowed.
24:28
They
24:28
tested
24:29
movements
24:29
in
24:29
costume
24:30
and
24:30
Then
24:30
also
24:31
tested
24:31
with
24:31
puppets
24:32
later.
24:33
Norman
24:34
has
24:34
five
24:34
costume
24:34
changes,
24:35
his
24:35
parents
24:36
have
24:36
three.
24:37
Elder
24:37
sister
24:37
Courtney
24:38
has
24:38
two.
24:39
They
24:39
use
24:39
size
24:40
15
24:40
extra
24:41
long
24:41
beading
24:42
needles
24:42
to
24:43
stitch
24:43
these
24:43
tiny
24:44
costumes.
24:44
And
24:45
these
24:45
needles
24:46
are
24:46
about
24:46
the
24:46
circumference
24:47
of
24:47
human
24:48
hair.
24:48
They
24:48
are
24:48
that
24:49
thin.
24:50
With
24:50
animators
24:50
handling
24:51
the
24:51
puppets
24:51
thousands
24:52
of
24:52
times,
24:52
there
24:53
were
24:53
at
24:53
least
24:53
half
24:54
a
24:54
dozen
24:54
duplicates
24:55
of
24:55
each
24:55
costume.
24:56
The
24:57
ghosts
24:57
appearances
24:58
were
24:58
also
24:59
enhanced
24:59
by
24:59
tulle,
25:00
not
25:00
as
25:01
a
25:01
material
25:01
for
25:01
their
25:02
costumes,
25:02
but
25:03
as
25:03
the
25:03
substance
25:03
that
25:04
doubled
25:04
on
25:04
screen
25:05
for
25:05
the
25:05
particles
25:05
and
25:06
vapor
25:06
that
25:07
they
25:07
float
25:07
around
25:08
in
25:08
and
25:08
with.
25:09
As
25:10
for
25:10
shoes,
25:10
Cork
25:11
and
25:11
her
25:11
team
25:11
had
25:12
learned
25:12
on
25:12
Coraline
25:13
that
25:13
antique
25:14
Victorian
25:15
gloves
25:15
offer
25:15
the
25:15
best
25:16
and
25:16
thinnest
25:17
possible
25:17
leather
25:18
out
25:18
of
25:18
which
25:18
to
25:19
fabricate
25:19
the
25:19
puppet's
25:20
shoes,
25:20
including
25:21
Norman's
25:22
Converse
25:22
sneakers.
25:23
As
25:23
the
25:24
Zombies
25:24
were
25:24
previously
25:25
18th
25:25
century
25:26
Puritans,
25:27
costuming
25:27
and
25:27
hairstyles
25:28
from
25:28
that
25:29
era
25:29
were
25:29
researched.
25:30
Cook
25:30
and
25:31
her
25:31
team
25:31
also
25:31
watched
25:32
the
25:32
1996
25:33
movie
25:33
version
25:34
of
25:34
the
25:34
Crucible
25:35
and
25:35
the
25:35
2002
25:36
miniseries
25:37
Salem
25:37
Witch
25:37
Trials.
25:38
While
25:38
creative
25:39
supervisor
25:39
of
25:40
character
25:40
fabrication
25:41
Georgina
25:41
Haynes
25:42
took
25:42
her
25:42
own
25:43
field
25:43
trip
25:43
to
25:44
New
25:44
England.
25:44
Only
25:45
fabrics
25:46
or
25:46
details
25:46
found
25:47
in
25:47
18th
25:48
century
25:48
clothing
25:48
were
25:49
used
25:49
and
25:49
then
25:50
distressed
25:50
to
25:50
reflect
25:51
300
25:52
years
25:52
of
25:52
being
25:52
a
25:52
corpse.
25:53
They
25:53
even
25:54
looked
25:54
at
25:54
archaeological
25:55
finds
25:55
and
25:56
clothing
25:56
to
25:56
see
25:57
how
25:57
that
25:57
clothing
25:58
had
25:58
decayed
25:58
over
25:59
time.
26:00
For
26:00
the
26:00
puppet's
26:01
hair,
26:01
the
26:01
production
26:02
experimented
26:02
with
26:02
various
26:03
types
26:03
of
26:03
human
26:04
hair,
26:04
animal
26:05
hair,
26:05
and
26:05
even
26:06
tinsel.
26:07
Human
26:07
hair
26:07
was
26:08
too
26:08
porous
26:08
and
26:08
didn't
26:09
stick.
26:09
On
26:10
Coraline,
26:10
they
26:11
used
26:11
mohair,
26:11
which
26:12
they
26:12
laid
26:12
thin
26:13
wires
26:13
into.
26:14
They
26:14
wanted
26:14
to
26:15
make
26:15
Norman's
26:15
hair
26:16
even
26:16
more
26:16
of
26:16
a
26:16
character
26:17
than
26:17
Coraline's
26:18
was.
26:18
Norman's
26:19
hair
26:19
had
26:19
a
26:19
goat
26:20
hair
26:20
base.
26:21
It
26:21
was
26:21
fused
26:21
with
26:22
glues,
26:22
hair
26:22
gels,
26:23
fabric
26:24
adhesives,
26:24
thread,
26:25
and
26:25
like
26:26
with
26:26
Coraline
26:26
wire,
26:27
last
26:28
came
26:28
paint
26:28
and
26:29
some
26:29
human
26:29
hair
26:29
dye.
26:30
They
26:30
also
26:30
created
26:31
stunt
26:32
wigs
26:32
for
26:32
action
26:33
scenes,
26:33
which
26:34
is
26:34
just
26:34
one
26:34
of
26:34
those
26:35
random
26:35
facts
26:35
that
26:35
I
26:36
love
26:36
because
26:37
you
26:37
could
26:37
really
26:38
imagine
26:38
having
26:38
a
26:39
stunt
26:39
wig
26:40
on
26:40
a
26:40
puppet
26:41
for
26:41
an
26:41
action
26:41
scene.
26:42
And
26:43
if
26:43
you're
26:43
not
26:44
already
26:44
impressed
26:45
by
26:45
the
26:45
sheer
26:45
stature
26:46
of
26:46
this
26:47
movie,
26:48
31,
26:49
600
26:50
handmade
26:50
props
26:51
were
26:51
also
26:51
constructed
26:52
for
26:52
ParaNorman,
26:53
including
26:54
26
26:54
moving
26:55
vehicles
26:56
with
26:56
working
26:56
lights,
26:57
windows
26:58
and
26:58
functioning
26:59
suspension
26:59
and
26:59
steering.
27:00
The
27:00
town
27:01
hall
27:01
archive
27:01
sequence
27:02
was
27:02
built
27:03
over
27:03
two
27:03
full
27:04
sets
27:04
with
27:05
over
27:05
20,000
27:06
miniature
27:07
books,
27:07
over
27:08
5,000
27:09
paper
27:09
items
27:10
like
27:10
maps
27:10
and
27:11
files,
27:11
and
27:12
over
27:12
400
27:13
hand
27:14
folded
27:14
file
27:15
boxes.
27:15
The
27:16
smallest
27:16
animatable
27:17
prop
27:18
was
27:18
Norman's
27:19
mother's
27:19
perfume
27:20
sprayer,
27:20
which
27:21
gets
27:21
used
27:21
while
27:22
they're
27:22
in
27:22
the
27:22
car
27:22
to
27:23
ward
27:23
off
27:23
the
27:23
zombie
27:24
judge.
27:24
It's
27:25
made
27:25
of
27:25
brass
27:25
and
27:26
then
27:26
chromed
27:26
for
27:27
A
27:27
brushed
27:27
stainless
27:28
look.
27:28
It
27:29
measures
27:29
5.8of
27:30
an
27:31
inch
27:31
in
27:31
length
27:32
and
27:32
1.8of
27:33
an
27:33
inch
27:34
in
27:34
diameter
27:35
with
27:35
the
27:35
pump
27:36
nozzle
27:36
1.16of
27:37
an
27:38
inch
27:38
in
27:38
diameter.
27:39
And
27:40
this
27:40
perfume
27:41
sprayer
27:41
genuinely
27:42
works.
27:43
It
27:43
genuinely
27:43
squirted
27:44
perfume.
27:46
Cinematographer
27:47
Tristan
27:47
Oliver
27:48
was
27:48
no
27:48
stranger
27:48
to
27:48
stop
27:49
motion,
27:49
but
27:49
he
27:49
was
27:50
too
27:50
stereoscopic
27:51
to
27:52
shooting
27:52
in
27:52
3D
27:53
for
27:53
the
27:53
first
27:53
time
27:54
and
27:54
also
27:54
while
27:55
using
27:55
a
27:55
wider
27:56
screen
27:56
aspect
27:56
ratio.
27:57
He
27:57
wanted
27:58
to
27:58
follow
27:58
traditional
27:59
zombie
27:59
movie
28:00
conventions
28:00
and
28:01
chiaroscuro
28:02
lighting.
28:02
But
28:02
to
28:03
shoot
28:03
the
28:03
movie's
28:03
ghosts,
28:04
he
28:04
referenced
28:05
early
28:05
Russian
28:05
photographs
28:06
taken
28:06
on
28:06
glass
28:07
panes
28:07
and
28:08
looked
28:08
to
28:08
the
28:08
work
28:08
of
28:08
fellow
28:09
cinematographers
28:10
Conrad
28:10
hall,
28:11
who
28:11
shot
28:11
Butch
28:11
Cassidy
28:12
and
28:12
the
28:12
Sundance
28:12
Kid,
28:13
American
28:13
Beauty
28:14
and
28:14
Road
28:14
to
28:14
Perdition.
28:15
Roger
28:16
Deakins,
28:16
whose
28:16
best
28:17
known
28:17
works
28:17
are
28:17
the
28:18
Shawshank
28:18
Redemption,
28:19
Fargo
28:19
and
28:20
Skyfall,
28:21
and
28:21
in
28:21
particular
28:21
Seamus
28:22
McGarvey's
28:23
work
28:23
on
28:23
atonement.
28:24
The
28:25
forest
28:25
scenes
28:26
were
28:26
influenced
28:27
by
28:27
martial
28:27
arts
28:27
movies
28:28
such
28:28
as
28:29
Crouching
28:29
Tiger,
28:29
Hidden
28:30
Dragon
28:30
and
28:30
hero.
28:31
They
28:32
used
28:32
63
28:33
Canon
28:33
5D
28:34
Mark
28:34
II
28:34
cameras
28:35
with
28:35
left
28:35
and
28:35
right
28:36
sliders
28:37
to
28:37
record
28:37
stereo
28:38
pair
28:38
frames
28:38
in
28:38
order
28:39
to
28:39
film
28:39
the
28:39
majority
28:40
of
28:40
the
28:40
main
28:40
animation.
28:41
They
28:42
also
28:42
used
28:42
21
28:43
motion
28:43
control
28:44
track
28:44
and
28:44
boom
28:44
rigs
28:45
and
28:45
53
28:46
motion
28:46
control
28:47
systems,
28:48
36
28:48
Cooper
28:49
systems
28:49
and
28:49
17
28:50
proprietary
28:51
systems.
28:51
The
28:52
camera
28:52
department
28:52
produced
28:53
20
28:53
hours
28:54
and
28:54
29
28:55
minutes
28:55
worth
28:55
of
28:56
footage.
28:56
The
28:57
bathroom
28:57
sequence
28:58
alone,
28:58
where
28:59
Norman
28:59
is
28:59
contacted
29:00
by
29:00
the
29:00
ghost
29:00
of
29:00
his
29:01
great
29:01
uncle,
29:01
Mr.
29:02
Prendergast,
29:03
took
29:03
one
29:04
whole
29:04
year
29:04
to
29:04
shoot.
29:05
Principal
29:06
photography
29:06
on
29:06
ParaNorman
29:07
lasted
29:08
18
29:08
months,
29:09
with
29:09
a
29:09
total
29:09
of
29:10
35
29:10
animators
29:11
working
29:11
on
29:12
52
29:12
separate
29:13
sets.
29:14
Each
29:14
animator
29:15
shot
29:15
an
29:15
average
29:15
of
29:16
4.38
29:17
seconds
29:17
of
29:17
film
29:18
per
29:18
day,
29:18
which
29:19
means
29:19
only
29:19
12.78
29:21
minutes
29:21
were
29:21
completed
29:22
per
29:23
entire
29:23
week
29:24
of
29:24
production.
29:25
Despite
29:26
being
29:26
a
29:26
stop
29:27
motion
29:27
movie,
29:27
digital
29:28
visual
29:28
effects
29:29
were
29:29
used
29:29
to
29:29
enhance
29:30
a
29:30
number
29:30
of
29:30
scenes.
29:31
I've
29:32
already
29:32
mentioned
29:32
set
29:33
extensions
29:33
and
29:34
crowds,
29:34
but
29:34
also
29:35
things
29:35
like
29:35
ghost
29:36
effects,
29:36
rig
29:36
removal,
29:37
face
29:37
replacement,
29:38
line
29:38
removal
29:39
and
29:39
atmospherics.
29:40
In
29:40
order
29:41
to
29:41
give
29:41
the
29:41
surroundings
29:42
more
29:42
weight,
29:42
Leica
29:43
experimented
29:44
with
29:44
the
29:44
foundries
29:45
Cortana
29:46
in
29:46
their
29:46
lighting
29:47
pipeline
29:48
to
29:48
match
29:48
textures
29:49
and
29:49
make
29:49
clouds
29:50
appear
29:50
more
29:51
realistic.
29:52
And
29:52
one
29:52
of
29:52
my
29:53
favorite
29:53
visual
29:53
effects
29:54
in
29:54
this
29:54
movie
29:55
is
29:55
Agatha
29:56
herself.
29:56
The
29:57
full
29:57
bodied
29:58
angry
29:58
Aggie
29:59
is
29:59
a
29:59
stop
30:00
motion
30:00
puppet
30:01
enhanced
30:01
by
30:01
a
30:02
digital
30:02
dress
30:03
to
30:03
make
30:03
her
30:03
look
30:04
like
30:04
a
30:04
Tesla
30:05
coil.
30:05
The
30:06
dress
30:06
was
30:06
based
30:06
on
30:07
actual
30:07
physical
30:07
designs
30:08
of
30:08
shredded
30:08
paper
30:09
and
30:09
cloth
30:10
and
30:10
her
30:10
hair
30:10
based
30:11
on
30:11
handmade
30:12
blown
30:12
ink
30:13
artwork.
30:14
They
30:14
also
30:14
added
30:15
hand
30:15
drawn
30:15
elements
30:16
to
30:16
her
30:16
to
30:16
enhance
30:16
her
30:17
confusion,
30:18
pain
30:18
and
30:18
fear.
30:19
The
30:19
version
30:19
of
30:20
Aggie
30:20
we
30:20
see
30:21
as
30:21
a
30:21
witchy
30:21
face
30:22
in
30:22
the
30:22
sky
30:23
is
30:23
based
30:23
on
30:23
practical
30:24
tests
30:24
of
30:25
Bridal
30:25
Veil
30:25
material.
30:26
The
30:26
look
30:27
and
30:27
Translucent
30:27
quality
30:28
of
30:28
this
30:28
material
30:29
was
30:29
replicated
30:29
using
30:30
Houdini
30:31
and
30:31
then
30:31
sculpted
30:32
and
30:32
animated
30:32
into
30:33
the
30:33
terrifying
30:34
face
30:34
of
30:34
the
30:34
giant
30:35
witch.
30:36
And
30:37
while
30:37
most
30:37
studios
30:38
are
30:38
censoring
30:39
or
30:39
limiting
30:39
exposure
30:40
for
30:40
LGBTQ
30:41
characters,
30:42
back
30:42
in
30:43
2012,
30:43
Lyca
30:44
decided
30:45
to
30:45
put
30:45
an
30:45
openly
30:46
gay
30:46
character
30:47
in
30:47
his
30:48
little
30:48
stop
30:48
motion
30:49
zombie
30:49
ghost
30:49
movie.
30:50
Mitch,
30:50
the
30:51
object
30:51
of
30:51
Courtney's
30:52
affections
30:52
throughout
30:52
the
30:53
movie,
30:53
is
30:54
often
30:54
cited
30:54
as
30:54
the
30:55
first
30:55
openly
30:55
gay
30:56
character
30:56
in
30:57
an
30:57
American
30:57
animated
30:58
movie.
30:59
And
30:59
he's
30:59
never
31:00
the
31:00
butt
31:00
of
31:00
any
31:00
joke.
31:01
He's
31:01
not
31:02
the
31:02
stereotypical
31:03
gay
31:03
tropey
31:04
character.
31:05
And
31:05
in
31:05
the
31:05
world
31:05
of
31:05
ParaNorman,
31:06
a
31:07
world
31:07
where
31:07
being
31:07
anything
31:08
other
31:08
than
31:08
normal
31:09
is
31:09
seen
31:09
as
31:09
wrong,
31:10
which
31:10
makes
31:10
the
31:10
town
31:11
descend
31:11
on
31:12
Norman
31:12
Mitch's
31:13
quiet
31:13
acceptance
31:14
of
31:14
his
31:14
own
31:14
sexuality,
31:15
the
31:16
fact
31:16
he
31:16
has
31:16
a
31:16
boyfriend,
31:17
it's
31:18
not
31:18
hidden,
31:18
it's
31:19
normal.
31:20
This
31:20
is
31:20
a
31:20
movie
31:20
that
31:21
just
31:21
turns
31:21
preconceptions
31:22
on
31:22
their
31:23
heads.
31:23
You
31:23
think
31:24
the
31:24
muscular
31:24
jock
31:25
character
31:25
must
31:26
be
31:26
straight,
31:27
just
31:27
like
31:27
you
31:27
think
31:28
the
31:28
zombie
31:28
who's
31:28
returned
31:29
from
31:29
the
31:29
dead
31:30
wants
31:30
to
31:30
eat
31:31
your
31:31
brains.
31:31
But
31:31
you're
31:32
wrong
31:32
on
31:33
both
31:33
counts.
31:34
Co
31:34
director
31:34
Chris
31:35
Butler,
31:35
who's
31:35
also
31:36
gay,
31:36
has
31:37
said
31:37
that
31:37
the
31:37
character
31:37
being
31:38
gay
31:38
was
31:38
explicitly
31:39
connected
31:39
with
31:39
the
31:40
film's
31:40
message.
31:41
Quote,
31:41
if
31:41
we're
31:42
saying
31:42
to
31:42
anyone
31:42
that
31:43
watches
31:43
this
31:43
movie,
31:44
don't
31:44
judge
31:45
other
31:45
people,
31:46
then
31:46
we've
31:46
got
31:46
to
31:46
have
31:47
the
31:47
strength
31:47
of
31:47
our
31:48
convictions.
31:48
Unquote.
31:49
This
31:50
is
31:50
a
31:50
movie
31:50
that
31:50
loves
31:51
other
31:51
horror
31:51
movies
31:52
and
31:52
not
31:52
just
31:53
the
31:53
obvious
31:53
zombie
31:54
flicks.
31:54
And
31:54
George
31:54
A.
31:55
Romero,
31:55
with
31:56
its
31:56
handheld
31:56
shots
31:57
paying
31:57
homage
31:57
to
31:57
Sam
31:58
Raimi's
31:58
Evil
31:59
Dead,
31:59
visual
32:00
references
32:00
to
32:00
Friday
32:01
the
32:01
13th's
32:01
Jason
32:02
Voorhees
32:03
and
32:03
Chris
32:03
Butler's
32:04
favorite
32:04
reference,
32:05
a
32:05
ringtone
32:06
of
32:06
the
32:06
opening
32:06
bars
32:07
of
32:07
the
32:07
Halloween
32:07
theme
32:08
by
32:08
John
32:08
Carpenter,
32:09
which
32:09
they
32:10
never
32:10
thought
32:10
they
32:10
would
32:10
obtain
32:11
the
32:11
rights
32:11
to,
32:12
but
32:12
by
32:12
some
32:13
miracle
32:13
they
32:13
did.
32:14
This
32:14
is
32:14
in
32:15
many
32:15
ways
32:15
a
32:15
beautiful
32:16
coda
32:16
to
32:16
a
32:16
movie
32:17
that
32:17
is
32:17
so
32:17
influenced
32:18
by
32:18
John
32:18
Carpenter
32:19
as
32:19
well
32:19
as
32:20
the
32:20
works
32:20
of
32:20
John
32:20
Hughes,
32:21
but
32:21
unfortunately
32:22
not
32:23
at
32:23
all
32:23
by
32:23
the
32:23
works
32:23
of
32:24
Keanu
32:24
Reeves.
32:25
And
32:25
this
32:25
is
32:25
the
32:25
easiest
32:26
segue
32:26
into
32:27
the
32:27
obligatory
32:27
Keanu
32:28
reference
32:28
of
32:28
this
32:28
episode,
32:29
which
32:29
is
32:30
the
32:30
part
32:30
of
32:30
this
32:30
podcast
32:30
where
32:30
I
32:31
try
32:31
to
32:31
link
32:31
the
32:31
movie
32:31
than
32:32
featuring
32:32
with
32:32
Keanu
32:33
Reeves
32:33
for
32:34
no
32:34
reason
32:34
other
32:34
than
32:35
he
32:35
is
32:35
the
32:35
best
32:35
of
32:35
men
32:36
and
32:36
all
32:36
men
32:36
in
32:36
the
32:36
world
32:37
should
32:37
always
32:38
be
32:38
a
32:38
little
32:38
bit
32:38
more
32:38
like
32:39
Keanu
32:39
Reeves.
32:40
So
32:41
originally
32:41
I
32:41
was
32:42
trying
32:42
to
32:42
think
32:42
logically
32:42
about
32:43
linking
32:43
Keanu
32:44
to
32:44
ParaNorman,
32:45
and
32:45
I
32:45
couldn't
32:46
find
32:46
anything.
32:47
Nothing
32:48
really
32:48
obviously
32:49
stood
32:49
out
32:49
to
32:49
me,
32:50
so
32:50
I
32:50
did
32:51
the
32:51
next
32:51
best
32:52
thing
32:52
and
32:52
linked
32:53
him
32:53
to
32:53
another
32:54
Norman,
32:55
and
32:55
in
32:55
doing
32:56
so,
32:56
actually
32:57
also
32:57
linked
32:57
him
32:58
to
32:58
zombies.
33:00
So
33:00
Keanu
33:01
did
33:01
a
33:01
motorcycle
33:02
ride
33:02
with
33:02
the
33:02
actor
33:03
Norman
33:03
Reedus
33:04
through
33:04
Utah
33:05
on
33:05
the
33:05
TV
33:06
show
33:06
Ride
33:06
with
33:07
Norman
33:07
Reedus.
33:08
Norman
33:08
Reedus
33:09
obviously
33:10
starred
33:11
in
33:11
the
33:11
Walking
33:11
Dead,
33:12
which
33:12
is
33:12
also
33:13
Zombies.
33:14
So
33:14
technically
33:15
Norman
33:16
Reedus
33:16
is
33:17
the
33:17
closest
33:18
to
33:18
a
33:18
real
33:19
life
33:19
ParaNorman
33:20
that
33:20
we
33:20
have.
33:21
And
33:22
Keanu's
33:22
done
33:22
a
33:22
TV
33:23
show
33:23
with
33:23
ParaNorman.
33:24
So
33:25
there
33:25
you
33:25
go.
33:25
That's
33:26
the
33:26
easiest
33:26
way
33:26
for
33:26
me
33:26
to
33:27
do
33:27
it.
33:27
John
33:28
Bryan
33:28
composed
33:29
the
33:29
score
33:29
for
33:29
ParaNorman.
33:30
He
33:30
also
33:30
did
33:31
the
33:31
score
33:31
for
33:31
Eternal
33:32
Sunshine
33:32
at
33:32
the
33:32
Spotless
33:33
Mind,
33:33
which
33:34
is
33:34
one
33:34
of
33:34
my
33:34
favorite
33:34
movies.
33:35
I
33:35
love
33:35
that
33:35
movie
33:36
so
33:36
much.
33:36
I've
33:36
also
33:36
done
33:36
an
33:37
episode
33:37
on
33:37
that
33:37
one
33:37
too.
33:37
By
33:38
the
33:38
way,
33:38
he
33:39
also
33:39
worked
33:39
frequently
33:40
with
33:40
Paul
33:40
Thomas
33:41
Anderson.
33:42
The
33:42
score
33:42
for
33:42
Paranormal
33:43
was
33:43
based
33:44
on
33:44
Brian's
33:45
compositions
33:45
for
33:45
previous
33:46
films,
33:47
which
33:47
were
33:47
used
33:47
as
33:47
temporary
33:48
tracks
33:48
and
33:49
then
33:49
replaced
33:50
with
33:50
his
33:50
actual
33:51
ParaNorman
33:51
score.
33:52
For
33:52
that
33:53
score
33:53
he
33:53
used
33:53
an
33:53
EMS
33:54
VCS3
33:55
synthesizer,
33:56
which
33:56
was
33:57
notably
33:57
also
33:58
used
33:58
by
33:58
the
33:58
one
33:59
and
33:59
only
33:59
John
33:59
Carpenter.
34:00
Other
34:00
tracks
34:01
in
34:01
the
34:01
movie
34:01
include
34:02
Fix
34:02
Up,
34:02
Look
34:03
Sharp
34:03
by
34:03
Dizzy
34:03
Rascal
34:04
and
34:04
Little
34:05
Ghost
34:05
by
34:05
the
34:06
White
34:06
Stripes
34:07
also
34:07
plays
34:07
over
34:08
the
34:08
end
34:08
credits.
34:10
The
34:10
teams
34:10
from
34:11
both
34:11
Leica
34:11
and
34:12
Focus
34:12
Features
34:13
showed
34:13
concept
34:13
art,
34:14
puppets
34:14
and
34:15
props
34:15
from
34:15
ParaNorman
34:16
at
34:17
Comic
34:17
Con
34:17
in
34:18
July
34:18
2011.
34:19
This
34:19
was
34:19
the
34:19
year
34:19
before
34:20
ParaNorman's
34:21
release.
34:21
These
34:22
puppets
34:22
and
34:22
props
34:23
included
34:23
Norman's
34:24
room
34:24
and
34:25
also
34:25
a
34:25
room
34:26
from
34:26
the
34:26
house
34:26
of
34:27
Mr.
34:27
Prendergast.
34:28
The
34:28
idea
34:29
being
34:29
obviously
34:29
to
34:30
wet
34:30
the
34:30
appetites
34:31
of
34:31
people
34:31
who
34:32
loved
34:32
Coraline
34:33
to
34:33
come
34:33
out
34:34
and
34:34
also
34:34
see
34:35
ParaNorman.
34:36
ParaNorman
34:37
was
34:37
released
34:38
in
34:38
the
34:38
summer
34:38
of
34:39
2012,
34:39
which
34:40
is
34:40
a
34:41
strange
34:41
time
34:41
to
34:41
release
34:42
a
34:42
movie
34:42
like
34:42
this,
34:42
but
34:43
there
34:43
is
34:43
a
34:43
precedent
34:44
for
34:44
movies
34:45
with
34:45
a
34:45
horror
34:45
tinged
34:46
edge
34:47
to
34:47
be
34:47
released
34:47
in
34:47
the
34:48
summer.
34:49
ParaNorman
34:49
was
34:50
released
34:50
on
34:50
17
34:51
July
34:51
2012,
34:52
the
34:52
same
34:53
week
34:53
as
34:53
The
34:54
Expendables
34:54
2.
34:55
It's
34:55
easy
34:55
to
34:56
guess
34:56
which
34:56
one
34:56
reached
34:57
number
34:57
one
34:57
at
34:57
the
34:57
box
34:57
office.
34:58
ParaNorman
34:59
had
34:59
to
34:59
settle
35:00
with
35:00
third
35:00
after
35:00
The
35:00
Bourne
35:01
Legacy.
35:02
It
35:02
stayed
35:02
at
35:03
third
35:03
for
35:03
its
35:03
second
35:04
week
35:04
and
35:04
would
35:04
stay
35:04
in
35:05
the
35:05
top
35:05
ten
35:05
for
35:06
six
35:06
weeks.
35:07
Now
35:08
it's
35:08
important
35:08
to
35:08
note
35:09
that
35:09
ParaNorman
35:10
was
35:10
never
35:11
make
35:11
or
35:11
break
35:11
for
35:11
Leica,
35:12
and
35:13
the
35:13
reason
35:13
for
35:13
that
35:14
is
35:14
Leica
35:15
is
35:15
owned
35:15
by
35:16
Nike
35:16
billionaire
35:17
Phil
35:17
Knight
35:18
and
35:18
ran
35:18
by
35:19
his
35:19
son
35:19
Travis
35:20
Knight,
35:20
who
35:21
was
35:21
also
35:21
the
35:21
lead
35:21
animator
35:22
on
35:22
ParaNorman,
35:23
as
35:23
well
35:23
as
35:24
a
35:24
producer.
35:25
The
35:25
Knight
35:26
family
35:26
are
35:26
the
35:26
25th
35:27
wealthiest
35:28
in
35:28
the
35:29
world,
35:29
so
35:29
it's
35:30
pretty
35:30
safe
35:30
to
35:30
say
35:30
that
35:31
Leica
35:31
could
35:31
afford
35:32
to
35:32
pursue
35:32
its
35:32
vision
35:33
no
35:33
matter
35:34
how
35:34
this
35:34
film
35:34
performed
35:35
with
35:35
critics
35:35
or
35:36
at
35:36
the
35:36
box
35:36
office.
35:37
But
35:37
naturally
35:38
they
35:38
wanted
35:38
the
35:38
movie
35:39
to
35:39
do
35:39
well,
35:40
and
35:40
they
35:40
did
35:40
have
35:41
high
35:41
expectations
35:42
after
35:42
the
35:42
success
35:43
of
35:43
Coraline.
35:44
On
35:45
its
35:45
budget
35:45
of
35:46
$60
35:46
million,
35:47
ParaNorman
35:48
grossed
35:48
$56
35:49
million
35:49
domestically
35:50
in
35:50
the
35:50
US
35:51
and
35:49
$51.1
35:52
million
35:53
internationally,
35:54
for
35:54
a
35:54
total
35:55
worldwide
35:55
gross
35:55
of
35:52
$107.1
35:56
million.
35:59
Laika
35:59
also
36:00
celebrated
36:00
the
36:00
10th
36:01
anniversary
36:01
of
36:02
ParaNorman
36:02
on
36:03
Halloween
36:03
2022
36:05
by
36:05
re
36:05
releasing
36:06
the
36:06
movie
36:06
in
36:06
4K.
36:07
Now
36:08
ParaNorman
36:08
is
36:09
almost
36:09
universally
36:10
adored
36:10
by
36:11
critics.
36:11
Rotten
36:12
Tomatoes
36:13
has
36:13
an
36:13
approval
36:13
rating
36:14
of
36:14
89%.
36:15
The
36:16
critical
36:16
consensus
36:17
reads
36:17
Beautifully
36:17
animated
36:18
and
36:18
solidly
36:19
scripted,
36:19
ParaNorman
36:20
will
36:21
entertain
36:21
and
36:21
frighten
36:22
older
36:22
children
36:23
while
36:23
providing
36:24
surprisingly
36:24
thoughtful
36:25
fare
36:25
for
36:26
their
36:26
parents.
36:27
Paranormal
36:28
was
36:28
also
36:28
nominated
36:28
for
36:29
the
36:29
Academy
36:29
Award
36:29
for
36:30
Best
36:30
Animated
36:31
film,
36:31
losing
36:32
to
36:32
Pixar's
36:33
Brave.
36:33
It
36:34
also
36:34
lost
36:34
to
36:34
Brave
36:35
for
36:35
the
36:35
BAFTA
36:35
for
36:36
Best
36:36
Animated
36:36
film.
36:37
It
36:38
was
36:38
also
36:38
nominated
36:39
for
36:39
nine
36:39
Annie
36:39
Awards,
36:40
winning
36:40
three
36:41
for
36:41
character
36:42
animation
36:42
in
36:42
a
36:42
feature
36:42
production,
36:43
character
36:44
design
36:44
in
36:44
an
36:44
animated
36:45
feature
36:45
production,
36:46
and
36:46
Foley
36:46
mixing
36:47
in
36:47
an
36:47
animated
36:48
feature
36:48
production.
36:50
There
36:50
was
36:51
a
36:51
proposed
36:52
TV
36:52
series
36:53
for
36:53
ParaNorman.
36:54
There
36:55
was
36:55
some
36:55
test
36:55
footage
36:56
posted
36:57
on
36:57
YouTube
36:58
in
36:58
2017
36:59
by
36:59
animator
37:00
Isla
37:01
Solomon,
37:01
but
37:02
nothing
37:02
was
37:02
heard
37:03
of
37:03
the
37:03
show
37:03
after
37:04
that.
37:04
And
37:05
now
37:05
it
37:05
seems
37:06
to
37:06
have
37:06
unfortunately
37:07
died
37:08
a
37:08
bit
37:08
of
37:08
a
37:08
death.
37:09
Who
37:09
knows,
37:09
it
37:10
may
37:10
be
37:10
resurrected
37:11
zombie
37:11
style
37:11
at
37:12
some
37:12
point
37:12
in
37:12
the
37:12
near
37:13
future.
37:14
Now,
37:15
ghosts
37:15
and
37:15
zombies
37:16
are
37:16
pretty
37:17
scary,
37:17
right?
37:19
But
37:19
the
37:19
thing
37:20
is,
37:20
there
37:21
are
37:21
way
37:21
more
37:21
scarier
37:22
things
37:22
out
37:22
there
37:23
than
37:23
ghosts
37:23
and
37:23
zombies.
37:24
Because
37:25
you
37:25
know
37:25
what's
37:25
scarier
37:26
than
37:26
ghosts
37:26
and
37:26
zombies?
37:28
Bullying,
37:29
intolerance.
37:30
Hatred,
37:31
persecution.
37:33
All
37:33
of
37:33
those
37:34
things
37:34
are
37:34
way
37:35
scarier.
37:35
And
37:35
that's
37:36
probably
37:36
because
37:37
they
37:37
are
37:37
real.
37:37
And
37:38
not
37:38
only
37:38
have
37:38
they
37:39
happened,
37:39
they
37:40
are
37:40
still
37:40
happening.
37:42
Babies
37:42
aren't
37:43
born
37:43
with
37:43
intolerances,
37:44
they
37:45
grow
37:45
up
37:45
into.
37:45
Children
37:45
are
37:46
young
37:46
people
37:46
and
37:46
adults
37:47
who
37:47
are
37:48
taught
37:48
intolerance,
37:49
taught
37:49
that
37:50
being
37:50
someone
37:50
different
37:51
to
37:51
yourself
37:51
is
37:52
wrong.
37:52
And
37:52
quite
37:53
simply,
37:53
that's
37:53
how
37:53
people
37:54
end
37:54
up
37:54
racist,
37:55
homophobic,
37:56
xenophobic,
37:57
transphobic,
37:58
all
37:58
of
37:58
the
37:58
phobics.
38:00
What
38:00
sets
38:01
Leica
38:01
apart,
38:01
and
38:02
what
38:02
has
38:02
always
38:02
set
38:02
Leica
38:03
apart
38:04
is
38:04
that
38:04
they
38:04
are
38:04
a
38:05
truly
38:05
independent
38:06
studio
38:06
outside
38:07
of
38:07
the
38:07
mainstream,
38:08
and
38:08
they
38:08
aren't
38:08
afraid
38:09
to
38:09
be
38:09
bold
38:09
and
38:10
different
38:10
with
38:10
their
38:10
movies.
38:11
They're
38:12
not
38:12
beholden
38:12
to
38:12
a
38:13
bigger
38:13
corporate
38:13
overlord.
38:14
And
38:14
what
38:15
sets
38:15
Paranormal
38:16
apart
38:16
from
38:16
many
38:16
of
38:16
its
38:16
animated
38:17
peers
38:18
is
38:18
that
38:18
it
38:18
has
38:18
the
38:19
strengths
38:19
of
38:19
its
38:19
convictions.
38:20
It's
38:21
here
38:21
to
38:21
tell
38:21
a
38:21
story
38:22
of
38:22
intolerance.
38:23
And
38:23
it
38:23
does
38:23
it,
38:24
quite
38:24
frankly.
38:25
And
38:25
there's
38:25
no
38:25
executive
38:26
worried
38:26
about
38:27
how
38:27
the
38:27
impact
38:27
of
38:27
a
38:28
gay
38:28
character
38:29
will
38:29
affect
38:29
their
38:29
audience.
38:30
Mitch
38:31
is
38:31
gay,
38:32
just
38:32
as
38:32
lots
38:32
of
38:32
people
38:33
are
38:33
gay.
38:34
And
38:34
quite
38:34
frankly,
38:35
the
38:35
audience
38:35
kind
38:35
of
38:35
has
38:36
to
38:36
deal
38:36
with
38:36
that.
38:37
But
38:37
it's
38:37
also
38:38
so
38:38
throwaway
38:39
that
38:39
I
38:39
expect
38:39
a
38:39
lot
38:40
of
38:40
people
38:40
miss
38:40
that
38:41
and
38:41
its
38:42
relevance.
38:42
So
38:43
in
38:43
many
38:43
ways
38:43
I
38:43
actually
38:44
wish
38:44
they
38:44
did
38:44
a
38:44
bit
38:44
more
38:45
with
38:45
that
38:45
revelation.
38:47
Or
38:47
alternatively,
38:48
maybe
38:49
they
38:49
just
38:49
don't
38:49
need
38:49
to.
38:51
Death
38:51
is
38:51
something
38:52
that's
38:53
usually
38:53
handled
38:54
in
38:54
a
38:54
very
38:55
family
38:55
friendly
38:56
way
38:56
in
38:56
animated
38:57
movies.
38:57
If
38:58
you
38:58
think
38:58
of
38:58
something
38:59
like
38:59
Coco,
38:59
with
39:00
its
39:00
beautiful
39:00
depiction
39:01
of
39:01
the
39:01
land
39:01
of
39:01
the
39:01
dead,
39:02
this
39:03
movie
39:03
is
39:03
a
39:03
bit
39:04
more
39:04
frank
39:04
about
39:05
it.
39:05
Not
39:05
only
39:06
do
39:06
we
39:06
have
39:06
the
39:06
death
39:07
of
39:07
Mr.
39:07
Prendergast,
39:08
which
39:08
we
39:09
know
39:09
because
39:09
his
39:09
ghost
39:10
visits
39:10
Norman
39:11
in
39:11
the
39:11
toilet,
39:12
he
39:12
implores
39:12
Norman
39:13
to
39:13
go
39:13
to
39:13
his
39:14
recently
39:14
deceased
39:15
corpse
39:15
to
39:16
retrieve
39:16
the
39:16
book.
39:17
Rigor
39:17
mortis
39:18
and
39:18
all
39:19
that
39:19
will
39:19
keep
39:19
the
39:20
ghost
39:20
of
39:20
Agatha
39:20
at
39:21
bay.
39:21
We
39:22
also
39:22
have
39:22
Aggie
39:22
herself,
39:23
and
39:23
not
39:23
only
39:23
did
39:24
she
39:24
die,
39:25
she
39:25
died
39:25
horrifically
39:26
murdered
39:27
by
39:27
the
39:27
townsfolk
39:28
who
39:28
accused
39:28
her
39:29
of
39:29
witchcraft.
39:30
These
39:30
are
39:30
adults
39:31
that
39:32
murdered
39:32
a
39:32
child,
39:33
and
39:33
it
39:33
takes
39:34
the
39:34
compassion
39:34
of
39:34
a
39:35
child
39:35
for
39:35
the
39:36
adults
39:36
of
39:36
the
39:36
town
39:37
to
39:37
realize
39:38
their
39:38
own
39:38
prejudices
39:39
and
39:39
ignorance
39:40
and
39:40
fear.
39:41
It
39:41
also
39:41
speaks
39:42
on
39:42
how
39:42
the
39:42
passage
39:43
of
39:43
time
39:43
and
39:43
recording
39:44
of
39:44
history
39:45
is
39:45
blurred
39:45
and
39:46
defaced.
39:47
Historic
39:47
atrocities
39:48
are
39:48
treated
39:48
like
39:48
festivals
39:49
and
39:49
holidays,
39:50
and
39:50
the
39:50
real
39:51
people
39:51
they
39:51
affected
39:52
are
39:52
either
39:52
demonized
39:53
like
39:53
the
39:53
Blythe
39:54
Hollow
39:54
witch,
39:55
given
39:55
a
39:55
hideous
39:56
appearance
39:56
and
39:57
celebrated
39:57
for
39:57
being
39:58
vanquished
39:59
evil,
39:59
or
40:00
the
40:00
town
40:00
is
40:00
utterly
40:01
unrepentant
40:02
in
40:02
its
40:02
history
40:03
of
40:03
murdering
40:03
innocent
40:04
civilians,
40:05
not
40:05
only
40:05
commodifying
40:06
the
40:06
events,
40:07
but
40:07
celebrating
40:08
the
40:08
townsfolk
40:09
who
40:09
perpetuated
40:10
the
40:10
myths.
40:11
It
40:11
really
40:11
is
40:12
no
40:12
wonder
40:12
Aggie
40:13
is
40:13
so
40:13
pissed.
40:14
Blythe
40:14
Hollow
40:15
has
40:15
never
40:15
given
40:16
her
40:16
a
40:16
moment's
40:17
peace.
40:18
Movies
40:18
about
40:18
humans
40:19
being
40:19
the
40:19
real
40:19
monsters
40:20
are
40:20
ten
40:20
a
40:20
penny,
40:20
but
40:21
rarely
40:21
in
40:21
the
40:21
capacity
40:22
of
40:22
a
40:22
horror
40:23
movie
40:23
aimed
40:23
at
40:23
the
40:24
family
40:24
market.
40:25
While
40:25
the
40:25
Nightmare
40:26
Before
40:26
Christmas
40:26
might
40:26
be
40:27
the
40:27
obvious
40:27
choice,
40:28
I
40:28
felt
40:28
like
40:28
ParaNorman
40:29
offers
40:30
something
40:30
more
40:30
in
40:30
the
40:31
way
40:31
of
40:31
a
40:31
version
40:31
of
40:31
reality
40:32
that
40:33
feels
40:33
like
40:33
it
40:33
could
40:34
be
40:34
real,
40:34
and
40:35
that's
40:35
mostly
40:35
because
40:35
it's
40:36
based
40:36
on
40:36
real
40:37
events.
40:38
Zombie
40:38
movies
40:39
can
40:39
be
40:39
social
40:39
satire
40:40
or
40:40
spoofs,
40:41
or
40:42
they
40:42
can
40:42
be
40:42
out
40:42
and
40:42
out
40:43
horror,
40:43
but
40:43
ParaNorman
40:44
takes
40:44
the
40:44
genre
40:45
and
40:45
asks
40:45
the
40:45
question,
40:46
what
40:46
if
40:47
zombies
40:47
weren't
40:47
malevolent?
40:48
What
40:49
if
40:49
they
40:49
were
40:49
humans
40:50
who
40:50
made
40:50
a
40:50
terrible,
40:51
terrible
40:51
mistake?
40:52
And
40:52
what
40:53
if
40:53
their
40:53
righteous
40:54
cause
40:54
was
40:54
anything
40:55
but?
40:56
We
40:56
think
40:56
we
40:57
understand
40:57
witches
40:58
or
40:58
zombies
40:58
or
40:58
ghosts,
40:59
but
40:59
assumptions
41:00
are
41:00
dangerous
41:01
things,
41:01
and
41:01
assuming
41:02
anything
41:02
about
41:02
anyone
41:03
is
41:03
never
41:03
the
41:04
right
41:04
way
41:04
to
41:04
go
41:04
about
41:04
things.
41:05
Norman
41:06
creates
41:06
change
41:06
by
41:07
actually
41:07
talking,
41:08
and
41:08
let
41:08
me
41:08
tell
41:08
you,
41:08
coming
41:09
from
41:09
someone
41:09
who
41:09
actively
41:10
talks
41:10
a
41:10
lot
41:10
all
41:10
the
41:11
time,
41:11
I
41:11
can
41:11
tell
41:12
you
41:12
it
41:12
makes
41:12
a
41:13
huge
41:13
difference.
41:14
Talking
41:14
and
41:15
empathy.
41:16
Norman
41:16
has
41:16
both
41:17
of
41:17
these
41:17
in
41:17
spades.
41:18
He
41:18
knows
41:18
what
41:18
it's
41:19
like
41:19
to
41:19
be
41:19
bullied,
41:20
be
41:20
an
41:20
outcast,
41:21
and
41:21
he
41:21
knows
41:21
what
41:21
it's
41:22
like
41:22
to
41:22
feel
41:22
alone.
41:24
Revenge
41:25
is
41:25
an
41:25
all
41:25
consuming
41:26
disease.
41:26
If
41:27
someone
41:27
wrongs
41:27
us,
41:27
we
41:27
want
41:28
them
41:28
to
41:28
feel
41:28
the
41:28
way
41:29
they've
41:29
made
41:29
us
41:29
feel.
41:30
If
41:30
anything,
41:31
ParaNorman
41:31
isn't
41:32
about
41:32
scaring
41:32
us.
41:33
It's
41:33
about
41:33
taking
41:34
what
41:34
we
41:34
fear,
41:35
confronting
41:35
that
41:36
fear.
41:36
And
41:36
while
41:37
there
41:37
are
41:37
monsters
41:37
in
41:38
this
41:38
world,
41:38
and
41:38
there
41:38
will
41:38
always
41:39
be
41:39
monsters
41:39
in
41:40
this
41:40
world
41:40
to
41:41
stop
41:41
us
41:41
from
41:41
being
41:42
so
41:42
consumed
41:42
with
41:42
hatred
41:43
and
41:43
fear
41:43
that
41:44
we
41:44
also
41:44
become
41:45
the
41:45
monsters,
41:46
true
41:46
justice
41:47
isn't
41:47
about
41:47
revenge,
41:48
but
41:48
about
41:48
breaking
41:49
the
41:49
cycle
41:49
of
41:50
hurt,
41:50
pain
41:51
and
41:51
fear.
41:52
Kill
41:52
your
41:53
adversaries
41:53
with
41:53
kindness.
41:55
Laika
41:56
is
41:56
one
41:56
of
41:56
the
41:56
most
41:56
underrated
41:57
animation
41:58
studios
41:58
in
41:58
Hollywood.
41:59
Always
41:59
visually
42:00
splendid
42:00
and
42:01
thematically
42:01
innovating,
42:02
they
42:03
are
42:03
due
42:03
the
42:04
same
42:04
level
42:04
of
42:04
admiration
42:05
and
42:05
acclaim
42:05
that
42:05
other
42:06
studios
42:06
get.
42:07
And
42:07
Paranormal
42:08
is
42:08
a
42:08
movie
42:09
made
42:09
by
42:09
people
42:10
who
42:10
not
42:10
only
42:10
love
42:11
stop
42:11
motion,
42:11
but
42:12
they
42:12
also
42:12
love
42:12
the
42:13
horror
42:13
genre
42:13
and
42:14
pay
42:14
beautiful
42:14
homage
42:15
to
42:15
it
42:15
while
42:15
also
42:16
subverting
42:17
the
42:17
traditional
42:18
zombie
42:18
movie
42:18
lore.
42:19
Like
42:19
Norman's
42:20
grandma
42:20
says
42:20
when
42:21
Norman
42:21
tells
42:21
her
42:22
that
42:22
zombies
42:22
eat
42:22
brains,
42:23
he's
42:24
going
42:24
to
42:24
ruin
42:24
his
42:24
dinner.
42:25
I'm
42:25
sure
42:26
if
42:26
they
42:26
just
42:26
bothered
42:27
to
42:27
sit
42:27
down
42:27
and
42:28
talk
42:28
it
42:28
through,
42:29
it
42:29
would
42:29
be
42:29
a
42:29
different
42:30
story.
42:31
Paranorman
42:32
gives
42:32
us
42:33
hope
42:33
that
42:33
even
42:33
in
42:34
the
42:34
crazy
42:34
world
42:34
we
42:35
currently
42:35
live
42:35
in,
42:36
that
42:36
the
42:36
weirdos,
42:37
the
42:37
misfits,
42:38
the
42:38
others,
42:39
those
42:39
who
42:39
truly
42:39
believe
42:40
in
42:40
all
42:40
things
42:40
good
42:41
and
42:41
kind
42:41
in
42:41
the
42:41
world,
42:42
that
42:42
we
42:42
can
42:43
stand
42:43
together
42:43
against
42:44
the
42:44
raging
42:44
mob
42:45
who
42:45
want
42:45
everyone
42:46
different,
42:47
everyone
42:47
who's
42:47
not
42:48
puritan
42:49
to
42:49
burn.
42:50
We
42:50
can
42:50
face
42:51
the
42:51
mob
42:51
together
42:51
and
42:52
we
42:52
can
42:52
fix
42:52
what's
42:53
broken.
42:53
We
42:54
can
42:54
address
42:54
the
42:55
past
42:55
and
42:55
not
42:56
let
42:56
it
42:56
ruin
42:56
the
42:56
future.
42:58
We
42:58
can
42:58
all
42:58
be
42:59
a
42:59
little
42:59
bit
42:59
more
43:00
Paranormal.
43:02
Thank
43:02
you
43:02
for
43:02
listening.
43:03
As
43:03
always,
43:03
I
43:04
would
43:04
love
43:04
to
43:04
hear
43:04
your
43:04
thoughts
43:04
on
43:05
ParaNorman.
43:06
And
43:06
as
43:06
always,
43:07
thank
43:07
you
43:07
for
43:07
your
43:07
continued
43:08
support
43:08
of
43:09
this
43:09
podcast.
43:10
If
43:10
you
43:10
have
43:10
enjoyed
43:11
this
43:11
podcast
43:12
and
43:12
you
43:12
want
43:12
to
43:12
help
43:12
this
43:13
podcast
43:13
grow,
43:14
you
43:14
can
43:14
get
43:14
involved
43:15
by
43:15
telling
43:16
your
43:16
friends
43:16
and
43:16
family.
43:17
You
43:17
can
43:18
leave
43:18
a
43:18
rating
43:19
or
43:19
review
43:19
wherever
43:19
you
43:20
found
43:20
this
43:20
podcast
43:21
and
43:21
you
43:22
can
43:22
find
43:22
me
43:22
on
43:23
social
43:23
media.
43:24
You
43:24
can
43:24
share
43:25
like
43:25
posts
43:26
on
43:26
social
43:26
media.
43:27
It
43:27
all
43:27
helps
43:28
with
43:28
visibility.
43:29
I
43:29
am
43:29
on
43:30
Twitter,
43:30
Facebook,
43:30
Instagram,
43:31
threads,
43:32
Blue
43:32
sky
43:33
and
43:33
Letterboxd.
43:34
I
43:34
am
43:34
at
43:35
Verbal
43:35
Diorama
43:36
on
43:36
all
43:36
of
43:36
those
43:37
places.
43:37
I
43:38
don't
43:38
really
43:38
kind
43:39
of
43:39
use
43:39
Twitter
43:39
much
43:40
anymore
43:40
but
43:41
the
43:41
others
43:41
I
43:41
am
43:42
all
43:42
over
43:42
that.
43:43
Feel
43:43
free
43:44
to
43:44
find
43:44
me,
43:44
feel
43:45
free
43:45
to
43:45
add
43:45
me
43:46
and
43:46
feel
43:46
free
43:46
to
43:47
talk
43:47
to
43:47
me
43:47
about
43:48
really
43:48
any
43:49
movie
43:49
that
43:49
I've
43:49
ever
43:49
featured
43:50
but
43:50
feel
43:50
free
43:50
to
43:50
talk
43:51
to
43:51
me
43:51
about
43:51
ParaNorman
43:52
because
43:52
this
43:52
is
43:52
a
43:52
movie
43:52
that
43:53
I
43:53
could
43:53
talk
43:53
about
43:53
forever,
43:54
clearly
43:55
doing
43:55
a
43:55
podcast
43:56
about
43:56
it.
43:56
And
43:56
if
43:57
you
43:57
did
43:57
enjoy
43:57
this
43:57
episode
43:58
on
43:58
ParaNorman,
43:59
you
43:59
might
43:59
also
44:00
like
44:00
I've
44:01
mentioned
44:01
episode
44:02
63
44:02
on
44:02
Coraline
44:03
because
44:04
it
44:04
is
44:04
genuinely
44:05
one
44:05
of
44:05
the
44:05
greatest
44:05
movies
44:06
that
44:06
Leica
44:06
have
44:07
ever
44:07
done.
44:07
Also
44:08
episode
44:08
135
44:10
on
44:10
Corpse
44:10
Bride
44:11
and
44:11
also
44:12
the
44:12
classic
44:13
episode
44:13
186,
44:15
the
44:15
Nightmare
44:15
Before
44:16
Christmas.
44:16
Just
44:17
literally
44:17
one
44:18
of
44:18
the
44:18
greatest
44:18
stop
44:19
motion
44:19
movies
44:20
ever
44:20
made.
44:20
And
44:21
really
44:21
in
44:22
that
44:22
list,
44:22
you
44:22
can't
44:23
go
44:23
wrong
44:23
with
44:23
either
44:24
Henry
44:24
Selick
44:25
or
44:25
Tim
44:25
Burton.
44:26
As
44:27
always,
44:27
give
44:27
me
44:27
feedback,
44:28
let
44:28
me
44:28
know
44:28
what
44:28
you
44:29
think
44:29
of
44:29
my
44:29
recommendations.
44:31
So
44:32
the
44:32
next
44:32
episode
44:33
is
44:34
going
44:34
to
44:34
be
44:34
an
44:35
interesting
44:35
one
44:36
because
44:37
it's
44:37
a
44:38
movie
44:38
that
44:38
fans
44:39
of
44:39
this
44:39
particular
44:40
show
44:40
waited
44:41
a
44:41
hell
44:41
of
44:41
a
44:41
long
44:42
time
44:42
for.
44:43
This
44:43
show
44:43
is
44:44
the
44:44
longest
44:45
running
44:45
American
44:46
animated
44:46
series
44:46
series,
44:47
longest
44:48
running
44:48
American
44:49
sitcom,
44:49
and
44:50
the
44:50
longest
44:50
running
44:51
American
44:51
scripted
44:52
primetime
44:53
television
44:54
series,
44:54
both
44:55
in
44:55
seasons
44:56
and
44:56
individual
44:57
episodes.
44:58
The
44:59
Simpsons
45:00
was
45:01
and
45:01
is
45:02
quite
45:02
frankly
45:03
a
45:03
phenomenon.
45:04
And
45:05
the
45:05
Simpsons
45:06
movie
45:06
was
45:07
a
45:07
long
45:07
time
45:08
coming
45:08
for
45:08
a
45:09
show
45:09
that
45:09
originally
45:09
debuted
45:10
in
45:10
1987
45:11
on
45:11
the
45:11
Tracy
45:12
Ullman
45:12
show,
45:13
got
45:13
its
45:14
own
45:14
TV
45:14
series
45:15
in
45:15
1989,
45:16
but
45:17
fans
45:17
had
45:17
to
45:18
wait
45:18
all
45:18
the
45:18
way
45:19
till
45:19
2007
45:21
to
45:21
get
45:21
the
45:22
Simpsons
45:22
Movie.
45:23
And
45:23
as
45:24
always,
45:24
there
45:24
is
45:24
a
45:25
fascinating
45:25
story
45:26
behind
45:26
the
45:26
scenes
45:27
of
45:27
the
45:27
Simpsons
45:27
Movie.
45:28
So
45:29
please
45:29
join
45:30
me
45:30
next
45:30
week
45:31
for
45:31
the
45:31
history
45:31
and
45:31
legacy
45:32
of
45:32
the
45:33
Simpsons
45:33
Movie.
45:34
Now
45:35
I
45:35
always
45:35
like
45:35
to
45:35
say
45:35
this
45:36
podcast
45:36
is
45:36
free
45:36
and
45:37
it
45:37
always
45:37
will
45:37
be
45:38
free.
45:38
There
45:38
will
45:38
never
45:38
be
45:38
any
45:39
charge
45:39
to
45:39
listen
45:39
to
45:39
this
45:40
podcast
45:40
and
45:40
you
45:41
are
45:41
free
45:41
to
45:41
listen
45:41
to
45:41
as
45:42
many
45:42
episodes
45:42
as
45:42
you
45:43
want,
45:43
as
45:43
many
45:44
times
45:44
as
45:44
you
45:44
want
45:45
for
45:45
all
45:45
eternity.
45:46
However,
45:47
it
45:47
is
45:47
not
45:47
free
45:47
to
45:48
make
45:48
a
45:48
podcast.
45:48
There
45:49
are
45:49
many
45:49
costs
45:50
involved
45:50
with
45:50
making
45:51
podcasts,
45:52
including
45:52
things
45:53
like
45:53
podcast
45:54
hosting,
45:55
software
45:55
subscriptions,
45:57
website
45:57
hosting,
45:58
and
45:59
sometimes
45:59
those
45:59
costs
46:00
can
46:00
mount
46:00
up.
46:01
You
46:01
are
46:01
under
46:01
no
46:02
obligation
46:02
to
46:02
give
46:02
me
46:03
any
46:03
financial
46:04
assistance
46:04
to
46:04
make
46:05
this
46:05
podcast,
46:06
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46:06
if
46:06
you
46:07
get
46:07
value
46:07
out
46:08
of
46:08
what
46:08
I
46:08
do
46:08
and
46:09
you
46:09
have
46:09
some
46:09
spare
46:10
pennies,
46:10
you
46:11
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46:11
support
46:12
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46:12
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46:12
financially
46:13
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46:13
you
46:13
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46:14
There
46:14
are
46:14
a
46:14
couple
46:14
of
46:14
ways
46:15
you
46:15
can
46:15
do
46:15
that.
46:15
You
46:15
can
46:16
go
46:16
to
46:16
verbaldiorama.com
46:17
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46:18
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46:18
you
46:18
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46:18
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46:19
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46:19
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46:19
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46:19
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46:20
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46:20
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46:20
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46:20
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46:21
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46:21
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46:23
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46:23
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46:44
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46:45
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46:45
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46:46
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46:46
Aaron.
46:48
If
46:48
you
46:48
want
46:48
to
46:48
get
46:49
in
46:49
touch
46:49
with
46:49
me,
46:49
you
46:49
can
46:49
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46:50
verbaldioramail.com
46:52
you
46:53
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46:53
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46:53
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46:53
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46:53
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46:54
and
46:55
you
46:55
can
46:55
find
46:55
all
46:56
old
46:56
episodes
46:56
there
46:57
to
46:57
listen
46:57
to.
46:57
And
46:58
you
46:58
can
46:58
also
46:58
find
46:58
a
46:58
little
46:59
contact
46:59
form
46:59
as
47:00
well.
47:01
You
47:01
can
47:01
also
47:01
find
47:01
bits
47:02
that
47:02
I
47:02
do@filmstories.co.uk,
47:04
including
47:05
old
47:05
issues
47:06
of
47:06
the
47:06
magazine
47:07
and
47:07
also
47:07
online
47:08
articles
47:08
too.
47:09
And
47:10
finally
50:05
Bye.