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- 0:00Speaker 1: Then we had a one game playoff and he came
- 0:01Speaker 1: back after not playing like the last forty games, and
- 0:03Speaker 1: it was just weird to have him back. Then he
- 0:05Speaker 1: wouldn't have been eligible for the postseason. I don't know,
- 0:07Speaker 1: the whole thing is weird. Don't do drugs, kids, Let's
- 0:09Speaker 1: just don't do steroids.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Trevor may Day, Party of four at the Moment, Good
- 0:17Speaker 2: guest list today too. I know you talked about this yesterday, Trevor,
- 0:22Speaker 2: but if you wanted to just give us a cliff
- 0:25Speaker 2: notes version of what you covered on May Day. With
- 0:29Speaker 2: MLB deciding not to let anyone know about the shrinking zone,
- 0:33Speaker 2: I think that it was a vastly undercovered story after
- 0:38Speaker 2: the great investigative work by Ken Rosenthal and the athletic team.
- 0:41Speaker 2: AJ wasn't on that show either. We talked about a
- 0:43Speaker 2: little bit yesterday with Jim Bowden, Kratz, Todd Father and
- 0:47Speaker 2: myself really got into it on Friday. But Trevor, if
- 0:50Speaker 2: you were pitching in Major League Baseball and you suddenly
- 0:53Speaker 2: found out a month into the season that some people
- 0:56Speaker 2: knew that the zone basically switched up a little bit
- 0:59Speaker 2: because of the way that it's getting evaluated, would you
- 1:02Speaker 2: be pissed.
- 1:04Speaker 3: It would be frustrating for sure.
- 1:06Speaker 4: I wouldn't be too happy with I would be wondering
- 1:11Speaker 4: why I didn't know first of all. And just to
- 1:13Speaker 4: correct you, the Commissioner's office has said that they told
- 1:17Speaker 4: people now whether or not that happened, it was as
- 1:20Speaker 4: yet to be verified but or proven. But that's what
- 1:24Speaker 4: they said, so we got to go with that. Yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 4: I wouldn't be too happy. I wouldn't be too happy
- 1:29Speaker 4: about it, even though it's not like guys are out
- 1:32Speaker 4: here like, ah, I could totally move the ball in
- 1:34Speaker 4: one more inch, you know, if I had known, Like,
- 1:36Speaker 4: that's not what we're saying. What we're saying is just
- 1:40Speaker 4: knowing that going for an edge may maybe if that
- 1:42Speaker 4: mistake means a walk as opposed to you know, possibly
- 1:45Speaker 4: getting the call, that could change your out the way
- 1:48Speaker 4: you're thinking about it. And to be honest, the guys
- 1:51Speaker 4: I think should be most frustrated probably the catchers, because
- 1:54Speaker 4: a lot of their livelihoods has to do with receiving
- 1:57Speaker 4: metrics and defensive metrics and all those metrics have been
- 1:59Speaker 4: thrown way off off kilter to where like guys are
- 2:04Speaker 4: like what I'm average now I thought it was amazing, right,
- 2:07Speaker 4: and so there a lot of confusion there.
- 2:09Speaker 3: I think that.
- 2:09Speaker 4: I think the comments from Travis Darnaut in the article
- 2:12Speaker 4: said it gave it put it in perspective like what
- 2:16Speaker 4: new strikes and what are you talking about? So, uh, yeah,
- 2:19Speaker 4: it's it's annoying for sure.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, aj, I'm gonna go with Mike Schiltz words,
- 2:24Speaker 2: Dave Roberts, words, et cetera. Over the commissioner saying that
- 2:30Speaker 2: he told everyone.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess he did. They said like an
- 2:34Speaker 1: email or something. I don't know they sent, like CAMA
- 2:36Speaker 1: or something. I don't know what they sent, but no
- 2:38Speaker 1: one saw it. So I guess they told the people
- 2:40Speaker 1: that needed to know whetheran not not, the players apparently,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and the coaches and the managers. But they told other people,
- 2:46Speaker 1: and other people didn't say. I don't know if this
- 2:47Speaker 1: really does this really affect everything? All that does is
- 2:49Speaker 1: make the I don't know, the umpires be better. We've
- 2:52Speaker 1: seen an up take an umpires, so maybe this works.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Yeah it's great no that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I
- 2:58Speaker 2: like the changes.
- 2:59Speaker 3: I think the changes are great.
- 3:00Speaker 4: It's just the not knowing about them part, right, Like
- 3:03Speaker 4: the strike zone has been the best.
- 3:04Speaker 3: It's been a long time.
- 3:06Speaker 4: And the umpires we are in a golden era for umpiring,
- 3:09Speaker 4: and I got to give them, got to shout them out.
- 3:10Speaker 3: They've been really, really good.
- 3:13Speaker 4: So, you know, it's just one of those things, like internally,
- 3:16Speaker 4: a lot of there's a lot of metrics and things
- 3:17Speaker 4: that teams are using, and it's based on a certain
- 3:20Speaker 4: strike zone as the defaults, and then for those to
- 3:22Speaker 4: change it kind of just people are scrambling and it's
- 3:24Speaker 4: like this could have been avoided very easily. It's not
- 3:27Speaker 4: the it's not the change itself, it's just how it
- 3:28Speaker 4: was implemented. But that seems to be a theme, a
- 3:31Speaker 4: theme with the group of people that we're dealing with here.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yeah, Manfred might have texted someone like Dave Roberts Kratz
- 3:37Speaker 2: and been like check or spam bro or sent it
- 3:39Speaker 2: to you.
- 3:39Speaker 5: In December, I thought they I thought they said something
- 3:43Speaker 5: about winter meetings. It was it was discussed or told
- 3:47Speaker 5: to them. But obviously, when somebody that makes decisions isn't
- 3:51Speaker 5: held accountable for things, what are we gonna do about it?
- 3:55Speaker 2: Exactly what we're gonna do is talk about games from
- 3:58Speaker 2: last night. Let's charge them out, charging about, Hey, what
- 4:05Speaker 2: do we think about this A J. Smith Schaber Perzinski.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Do we have to just call him Smith Shauber. He
- 4:12Speaker 2: was riding a no no for a while at a
- 4:15Speaker 2: brilliant performance performance of his life against the Cincinnati Reds
- 4:19Speaker 2: team that have been playing pretty good ball lately for
- 4:21Speaker 2: nothing win for the Braves. I mean, this could be
- 4:24Speaker 2: a huge sign of a guy AJ who I think
- 4:27Speaker 2: has really good stuff, and it all came together for
- 4:30Speaker 2: him yesterday. Eight innings, one hit, four walks, five punchouts.
- 4:32Speaker 2: He's sporting an era at three double.
- 4:34Speaker 1: L Yeah, they need him. The bottom line is the
- 4:38Speaker 1: Braves need him with with Strider down, Lopez down, Schwallenbach
- 4:41Speaker 1: struggling as we talked when we talked to Grant McCauley
- 4:45Speaker 1: yesterday right about it. So they need him to step up,
- 4:47Speaker 1: and he did it against the red S team. It
- 4:50Speaker 1: was I never started paying attention to a no hitter
- 4:53Speaker 1: till they get to the eighth inning and he got close.
- 4:56Speaker 1: He got close, didn't get it done, but he did
- 4:58Speaker 1: a nice job to do this for the Braves, to
- 5:01Speaker 1: give the bullpen arrest. But the story of this game,
- 5:03Speaker 1: man was the nasty breakage of the arm and Matt
- 5:06Speaker 1: Olsen got inside the park, Homer, and that was just
- 5:09Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible thing that happened on the left field
- 5:11Speaker 1: wall and a freak fluke thing and a freak thing,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and I hope I never see that again.
- 5:16Speaker 5: Smith Saliver's absolutely shown that he can pitch in the
- 5:19Speaker 5: big leagues. But to stay in the big leagues, he
- 5:22Speaker 5: has to go out and not just have these gems
- 5:26Speaker 5: where he goes out the next time and it's kind
- 5:29Speaker 5: of all over the place. The guy really didn't start
- 5:32Speaker 5: pitching that long ago, so he doesn't have a long
- 5:35Speaker 5: history of pitching in high school. Everyone's heard the stories
- 5:38Speaker 5: about what he's got, so his ceiling is probably pretty high.
- 5:42Speaker 5: But it's a matter for the Braves. They need guys
- 5:45Speaker 5: to come out and get innings. And for this dude
- 5:48Speaker 5: to never have gone past five and two thirds to
- 5:50Speaker 5: go eight last night, that's huge for the Braves.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 5:57Speaker 4: They had the same thing kind of happened last year
- 5:59Speaker 4: with Schwell and Box stepping up when they you know,
- 6:02Speaker 4: lost Strider and Sale was having a sad young season,
- 6:05Speaker 4: like we need, you know, we need some front line guys,
- 6:07Speaker 4: and they got some guys step up, and it seems
- 6:09Speaker 4: like they're having a guy step up, especially when the
- 6:11Speaker 4: team scuffled hard at the beginning of the year. So
- 6:14Speaker 4: having a young dude that you can count on that
- 6:16Speaker 4: is very clearly gaining a lot of confidence every time
- 6:20Speaker 4: he goes out out there. I love the dude splitter.
- 6:22Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite pitches in the major leagues
- 6:24Speaker 4: right now. So, yeah, I didn't know he had like
- 6:29Speaker 4: mid to high. You know, he's getting ninety six. I
- 6:31Speaker 4: think there was a ninety seven in there. I didn't
- 6:32Speaker 4: know that was in there. So that that to me
- 6:34Speaker 4: shows a lot of confidence building and in order to
- 6:37Speaker 4: stay you got to have the confidence.
- 6:38Speaker 3: So and that team.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Is too too good to be where they are in
- 6:42Speaker 4: the standings, and they got hurt by injuries and continue
- 6:46Speaker 4: to get hurt by injuries. So you know, sometimes you
- 6:48Speaker 4: just got to get a guy kind of come out
- 6:50Speaker 4: of nowhere and be the big guy you can count
- 6:52Speaker 4: a little bit. It seems like he's at least taking
- 6:54Speaker 4: those first steps to maybe being that guy.
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- 8:13Speaker 2: to the other news that we learned in the past
- 8:14Speaker 2: twenty four hours. For the Braves, we can show the
- 8:17Speaker 2: tweet on Ronald Acunya Junior because it sounds like it's
- 8:21Speaker 2: happening pretty soon. We anticipated a may return, and a
- 8:25Speaker 2: return that would be including him in the outfields, right
- 8:28Speaker 2: because they have Azuna. He's not going to be a Dhacunya.
- 8:31Speaker 2: They don't want him dh anyway. They want him to
- 8:32Speaker 2: be full go and they'd rather wait it out. So
- 8:35Speaker 2: here we are, right. David O'Brien, covering the team for
- 8:39Speaker 2: the Athletics, said he continues his rehab in Florida. He's
- 8:42Speaker 2: going to be examined once more by a surgeon in
- 8:45Speaker 2: LA before he's cleared to begin a rehab sigmon, no
- 8:47Speaker 2: timetable yet, and then updated that an hour later. Must
- 8:50Speaker 2: have gotten some news that actually he's not returning to
- 8:52Speaker 2: LA to see doctor Neil Latrash. He said today he
- 8:56Speaker 2: doesn't need to go back and get a check. It's
- 8:58Speaker 2: go time. He can begin his rehab assignment and the
- 9:00Speaker 2: team said Kuni is going to begin rehab games this month.
- 9:04Speaker 2: They were not more specific. Aja, I anticipate it's going
- 9:08Speaker 2: to be pretty soon. My guess would be next week.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not playing doctor here, but just going
- 9:14Speaker 2: off of listening to interviews with Alex Adoppolos all off season,
- 9:17Speaker 2: it sounded like a late May return was going to
- 9:21Speaker 2: be the timetable, maybe even mid May. So if we
- 9:23Speaker 2: do the math here next week, are already really into
- 9:26Speaker 2: mid May. Give them how much seven to ten games
- 9:30Speaker 2: down in the minors and then let him go.
- 9:33Speaker 1: No, they're gonna give him more than that. They're gonna
- 9:34Speaker 1: give him at least two weeks, I would think, And
- 9:36Speaker 1: they minus listen. I know for a fact he's been
- 9:38Speaker 1: taking live at bats. He's already been hitting. He might
- 9:40Speaker 1: not have been playing the outfield, but I know he's
- 9:42Speaker 1: been hitting, So I know he's taken a ton of
- 9:44Speaker 1: at bats already. But I think they're gonna have to
- 9:46Speaker 1: give They do the old play five innings in the
- 9:48Speaker 1: field and you get a day off, and then you
- 9:50Speaker 1: try to play six innings and you get a day off,
- 9:52Speaker 1: and you might DH and then you try to play
- 9:53Speaker 1: back to back five innings, So they're gonna they've already
- 9:56Speaker 1: played this kind of slow. So I think they're gonna
- 9:58Speaker 1: continue to play this slow, and I would say at
- 10:00Speaker 1: least two weeks from the time he steps foot on
- 10:02Speaker 1: the field. I could be wrong in that, but I
- 10:03Speaker 1: think they're they've already slow played this enough. What's a
- 10:06Speaker 1: couple more days.
- 10:08Speaker 5: I agree with you, until he gets out there and
- 10:11Speaker 5: tells them he's fine and starts complaining that he wants
- 10:14Speaker 5: to play an actual big league game. So if they
- 10:16Speaker 5: say two weeks, which I agree, the build up is,
- 10:19Speaker 5: it might actually be a little bit more than two weeks.
- 10:21Speaker 5: If they say two weeks, in my opinion, expect him
- 10:25Speaker 5: back in under ten days, because he's going to get
- 10:27Speaker 5: out there for that first once he goes nine innings
- 10:31Speaker 5: on his feet for an entire game, and the next
- 10:34Speaker 5: day he's like, I'm totally fine. He doesn't want to
- 10:38Speaker 5: play another nine innings in the minor leagues, let alone
- 10:41Speaker 5: two or three more nine innings in the minor leagues.
- 10:44Speaker 4: I agree with Kratzy. I think that Akunya is one
- 10:47Speaker 4: of those guys. It's kind of like the notorious pit
- 10:51Speaker 4: like Max Scherzer, like, you can't count on him going
- 10:54Speaker 4: and doing any doing the plan. He's going to be
- 10:55Speaker 4: ahead of the plan just by the nature of the plan.
- 10:58Speaker 4: If you give him a plan, he's going to try
- 10:59Speaker 4: to be faster because it's just the way he is
- 11:02Speaker 4: pon similar to that. So I think to be safe,
- 11:04Speaker 4: though I would have I would lean towards the fourteen
- 11:06Speaker 4: days at least, because you get thirty days as a
- 11:08Speaker 4: rehab assignment. And like he said, we don't know how
- 11:11Speaker 4: many balls he's taking the outfield, how much he's been
- 11:14Speaker 4: on his feet, if he's played in some like rookie
- 11:16Speaker 4: ball games, or or even run the bases at all.
- 11:18Speaker 4: That all depends, right, But I would say, as soon
- 11:22Speaker 4: as he feels good after playing in one game, that
- 11:25Speaker 4: could be how much a workload that he would have
- 11:27Speaker 4: in the major leagues, he's gonna be like, all right,
- 11:29Speaker 4: I'm ready, and let's just hope he doesn't tweet it
- 11:31Speaker 4: before he talks to them.
- 11:35Speaker 2: True. True, he's gonna be like, if he hits a
- 11:38Speaker 2: few homers early, Trevor and he's feeling good, he might say, hey,
- 11:42Speaker 2: you call other people up quicker.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Five minutes Africa straight I'm ready to go, and then
- 11:48Speaker 4: balls in their court.
- 11:50Speaker 5: Yeah and yeah, sorry, I was just I was just
- 11:53Speaker 5: gonna say, now they do it based on time. I
- 11:56Speaker 5: forget who it was. I was talking to him about rehabit.
- 11:59Speaker 5: It's not about it's about how many minutes you spend
- 12:03Speaker 5: on your feet. So the doctor, the trainer sits there
- 12:07Speaker 5: as soon as he runs out in the minor league's
- 12:10Speaker 5: click starts it and it comes back in starts it.
- 12:14Speaker 5: I think we even had somebody on the show talking
- 12:16Speaker 5: about how many minutes they're on their feet. It was
- 12:19Speaker 5: when we were in spring training to be able to
- 12:21Speaker 5: get ready, and it's like, however many minutes long that
- 12:23Speaker 5: you have to be ready for a big league game,
- 12:26Speaker 5: not innings, because some minor league games can take take
- 12:29Speaker 5: a minute a jam.
- 12:32Speaker 2: I'm sure you love that, right, there's somebody whose job
- 12:34Speaker 2: is just the clicker.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Have twenty five coaches in the minor leagues now, so
- 12:40Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a big deal. They got to
- 12:42Speaker 1: have something to do. They got to give somebody something
- 12:44Speaker 1: to do all the time. So I don't know, how
- 12:46Speaker 1: about we just when we feel good, we play, and
- 12:48Speaker 1: when we don't, we don't play. I mean that's it
- 12:49Speaker 1: should be pretty simple, but we make things harder than
- 12:51Speaker 1: they are.
- 12:54Speaker 2: We do the science project. What do you think about
- 12:57Speaker 2: the Braves right now, Trevor.
- 13:00Speaker 4: They're playing better, I mean they're they're getting closer. The
- 13:03Speaker 4: Austin Riley had a big game on Sunday, which was
- 13:05Speaker 4: nice to see. That guy is a big part of
- 13:07Speaker 4: their offense. Offense is getting going a little bit. They're
- 13:10Speaker 4: still kind of stuttering, and I think that that the
- 13:12Speaker 4: injuries are some things that kill that momentum.
- 13:15Speaker 3: But they're hanging around.
- 13:17Speaker 4: They've they've turned I don't want to say they've turned
- 13:18Speaker 4: things completely around, but they have turned more in the
- 13:21Speaker 4: right direction as of late, and and I anticipate them
- 13:24Speaker 4: being there right at the end. I mean they did
- 13:26Speaker 4: tourists that kind of start slow. Uh, even the year
- 13:30Speaker 4: they won the World Series, they were five hundred for
- 13:31Speaker 4: a long time.
- 13:33Speaker 3: So it's just the way that they are. They're a
- 13:35Speaker 3: second half team.
- 13:36Speaker 4: This group of guys all gets it's maybe it's injuries,
- 13:39Speaker 4: maybe it's it's given healthy. But I just anticipated to
- 13:42Speaker 4: be an upward, you know, moving graph for most of
- 13:46Speaker 4: the year as they get guys back and hopefully they
- 13:48Speaker 4: can avoid injuries. Just recurring over and over again. So
- 13:50Speaker 4: ACUN is a big part of that. So they're gonna
- 13:54Speaker 4: they're gonna be who they are, who we thought they
- 13:56Speaker 4: were at some point this year, and it looks like
- 13:59Speaker 4: we're moving towards that.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and Max Freed looks pretty damn good right now.
- 14:03Speaker 2: AJ So.
- 14:05Speaker 1: He doesn't play for them. They plays for a different team,
- 14:07Speaker 1: plays for a different teams, So it doesn't matter how
- 14:09Speaker 1: he looks. They didn't sign them. They made that choice,
- 14:11Speaker 1: and now they move on. They go with the guys
- 14:13Speaker 1: they have, Like no team looks back and says, especially
- 14:16Speaker 1: the front office and the players, like, man, we really
- 14:18Speaker 1: wish we had Max Freed right now. They're like, man,
- 14:21Speaker 1: we got we got. We're going to try to go
- 14:22Speaker 1: to battle with those guys. That argument, to me doesn't
- 14:25Speaker 1: fly because I've never been on a team where like
- 14:27Speaker 1: I mean, we'll say, yeah, look at what so and
- 14:28Speaker 1: so is doing. He's not here anymore, but we never say, man,
- 14:31Speaker 1: I wish we would have signed him. There's like, man,
- 14:33Speaker 1: we should have signed him, but we didn't. Let's go
- 14:35Speaker 1: to war with what we got. I don't love that. Oh,
- 14:37Speaker 1: Max Freed's doing this great, good for him, Happy for Max.
- 14:40Speaker 2: They might be saying, I wish I didn't sign Profile
- 14:43Speaker 2: as my big off season price. But that's another story
- 14:46Speaker 2: if that was the bucket of cash they had to spend.
- 14:48Speaker 2: But it is what it is. We'll be back for
- 14:50Speaker 2: the second half of the season, not eligible for the playoffs.
- 14:52Speaker 2: By the way, a reminder to everyone part two of
- 14:55Speaker 2: the Rangers getting rid of their offensive coordinator, they've got
- 14:59Speaker 2: a hitting coach to place him, Brett Boone. Aj Persinski.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Were you surprised to see this one?
- 15:06Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I mean I think a little bit, just
- 15:08Speaker 1: because I didn't know that Booney wanted to do this,
- 15:10Speaker 1: But I did see him in San Diego, LA this
- 15:12Speaker 1: year and he was sniffing around, hitching around. So I
- 15:14Speaker 1: think this is a great hire. I love him. Former
- 15:16Speaker 1: players get jobs because they understand what it's like to
- 15:18Speaker 1: get in the box. I know analytics are a big
- 15:20Speaker 1: part of it. But one thing about Brett Boone he
- 15:22Speaker 1: could hit. He could play defense too. He was a
- 15:24Speaker 1: multi time goal glover. So I love this move for Texas.
- 15:28Speaker 1: And if he's comfortable doing he wants to do it,
- 15:30Speaker 1: let's see, let's see how it goes. I mean, Sean
- 15:31Speaker 1: Casey did it didn't work out so good. He did
- 15:33Speaker 1: a year, Brett boons for a year. Let's see how
- 15:35Speaker 1: it goes. Let's go opo taco.
- 15:39Speaker 5: That's all I remember about Brett bon bat flips Apo
- 15:41Speaker 5: taco in Seattle. Like you're sitting there now and you're like,
- 15:46Speaker 5: wait a minute, dudes, aren't just going opo like that?
- 15:50Speaker 5: Come home, Brett. But he was that dude would just
- 15:52Speaker 5: buggy whip some balls to right center.
- 15:56Speaker 4: He's very too strike open stance. Yeah, two strike open stance, man,
- 16:01Speaker 4: that's I mean. As a kid, we were like, you
- 16:02Speaker 4: gotta change your stance. Two strikes, Brad Boon. Does it
- 16:05Speaker 4: hit fifty two yet nineteen and then fifty two and
- 16:08Speaker 4: then fourteen?
- 16:11Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 16:11Speaker 4: Man, I mean, do what you gotta do. And by
- 16:14Speaker 4: the way, I didn't know where I was. Like the
- 16:16Speaker 4: other day, I was like, what's Brat Boone doing? And
- 16:18Speaker 4: low the hole? Two days later he is. I'm like,
- 16:21Speaker 4: here he is. He's in baseball still. I didn't know
- 16:23Speaker 4: if he was still kind of around. I mean, honestly,
- 16:26Speaker 4: I don't know everything about everyone's minor league. But that's awesome.
- 16:29Speaker 4: It's awesome for him.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't coaching, he was chilling. It
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- 17:30Speaker 2: gurws dot com. Injury Sucks showed him Naga to the
- 17:40Speaker 2: fifteen day il strained left hamstring. Trevor, This is a
- 17:43Speaker 2: really fun guy to watch. Cubs are humming along so
- 17:46Speaker 2: far this year against what was a tough schedule in
- 17:48Speaker 2: the first five weeks or so, tough loss. And I
- 17:52Speaker 2: don't know if you ever dealt with hammy as a pitcher,
- 17:55Speaker 2: but I mean it's better news than elbows shoulder action
- 17:57Speaker 2: of course.
- 17:59Speaker 4: Yeah, hammies are weird. We've seen a lot of hammies,
- 18:02Speaker 4: I feel like this year for pitchers too, which is
- 18:05Speaker 4: which is odd. But yeah, that this one's frustrating. Cubs
- 18:09Speaker 4: have been really fun to watch. He is their ace
- 18:11Speaker 4: right now, especially with Steel going down for the year,
- 18:13Speaker 4: so they can't really lose a lot of starting pitching,
- 18:15Speaker 4: but they have the offense to make up for it.
- 18:17Speaker 3: You know.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Hopefully this is a quick one, because sometimes hammies can
- 18:20Speaker 4: be can be a quick, quick up and down, especially
- 18:23Speaker 4: for pitchers. So hopefully it's one of those fifteen days.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Just missed a couple of starts to come back, But yeah,
- 18:28Speaker 4: they need him, They need him big time. He needs
- 18:30Speaker 4: to throw lots of innings this year if they want
- 18:31Speaker 4: to continue doing what they're.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Doing, and it was when he was covering first there AJ.
- 18:36Speaker 2: So it's the whole pitchers athletes conversation thing.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Here's the thing when you have a hamstring, when you
- 18:43Speaker 1: think it's good, wait another week because they always people
- 18:46Speaker 1: always pull it again as soon as they come back.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It's amazing. They think it's good, they do their little
- 18:50Speaker 1: running with the trainer, and then they go to cover
- 18:53Speaker 1: first and guess what, they pull it again. So when
- 18:54Speaker 1: I think it's good, you got to give it another
- 18:56Speaker 1: week or else you're going to do it again. So
- 18:58Speaker 1: just advice to the Cubs and.
- 19:00Speaker 5: Shoda Trevor, which one's worse because I've heard different answers.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Your lead leg hamstring because you know some guys lock out,
- 19:08Speaker 5: or is it your push off leg hamstring? I know
- 19:11Speaker 5: he did it running to first, But which one you
- 19:13Speaker 5: think would be worse? Two, especially if like you're a
- 19:18Speaker 5: big lead leg blocker guy.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, like if I had to get
- 19:24Speaker 4: like the longer your extension is probably the worse.
- 19:26Speaker 3: The front leg would be.
- 19:27Speaker 4: Like for me, the front leg would have been awful,
- 19:30Speaker 4: awful because I land bent and so I have to
- 19:32Speaker 4: extend and it would have been just terrible.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Some guys with shorter strides.
- 19:35Speaker 4: Maybe the back leg because they rely on it so
- 19:38Speaker 4: much for power, But I maybe I'm gonna say front
- 19:40Speaker 4: leg for most guys, just because it's a stability thing,
- 19:43Speaker 4: like you're trying to be stable.
- 19:44Speaker 3: The other way is more power. The front one's more.
- 19:47Speaker 4: You need something that's strong, and if it feels like
- 19:48Speaker 4: it's gonna give out back and mess a lot of
- 19:50Speaker 4: things up, you could compensate a lot of different ways
- 19:52Speaker 4: that could cause.
- 19:53Speaker 3: You problems long term. So I'd say front legs probably worse.
- 19:57Speaker 2: So the Cubs are four games up in the NL
- 19:59Speaker 2: send right now over the Brewers and the Reds from
- 20:03Speaker 2: a rotation standpoint. Right now on fan grafts, we've got
- 20:06Speaker 2: Matthew Boyd, Colin Ray, Ben Brown, and Jamison ty On
- 20:11Speaker 2: concerned AJ.
- 20:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still early. Their offense is enough to make
- 20:16Speaker 1: up for it. They'll get these guys back, not steal,
- 20:18Speaker 1: but they're gonna get a lot of these guys back,
- 20:19Speaker 1: So concern not really not yet, not yet, not yet.
- 20:23Speaker 1: If they keep going down, then we'll talk. But right now,
- 20:26Speaker 1: Boyd's been healthy, which they needed, and Tian's been been decent,
- 20:29Speaker 1: forum Ray's been serviceable, So we'll see Ben Brown's been
- 20:33Speaker 1: pretty good, so but they score so many dang runs.
- 20:35Speaker 1: If they keep hitting like this, they're gonna be fine.
- 20:38Speaker 2: You're right, they smacked the Giants around yesterday, Kraft. It's amazing.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker's actually making a lot of money for many
- 20:44Speaker 2: other impact players over the next few years because the
- 20:46Speaker 2: Cubs lineup was almost identical from this year to last year.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Besides Tucker. I know some guys took steps PCA. Carson
- 20:53Speaker 2: Kelly's playing out of his mind, but still it's crazy.
- 20:56Speaker 2: You put an aircraft carrier right smack dab in the
- 20:59Speaker 2: middle of the lineup there in the heart of the order,
- 21:01Speaker 2: and things change.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Huh, you don't. You don't just eliminate. That's what's cool
- 21:05Speaker 5: about what the Yankees offense is doing. I get it,
- 21:08Speaker 5: they still have judged, but minus Juan Soda. You don't
- 21:11Speaker 5: just eliminate the numbers that that guy produced. You eliminate
- 21:15Speaker 5: all the residual things. How pitchers a fet or, how
- 21:19Speaker 5: pitchers are deployed out of the bullpen, how pitchers battle
- 21:24Speaker 5: those guys. It's just a tough rat bat. You're using
- 21:27Speaker 5: your You're just you're showing teams more when you have
- 21:30Speaker 5: a like you said, aircraft carrier in the lineup, and
- 21:35Speaker 5: they're down. They're down Cody Bellinger. No, I know Cody's
- 21:38Speaker 5: not you know, he's not back to his MVP status,
- 21:41Speaker 5: but like you didn't just add Tucker, you subtracted Cody
- 21:46Speaker 5: added Tucker, and it just shows that a really elite
- 21:50Speaker 5: hitter like that permeates the entire lineup so far this
- 21:53Speaker 5: year for the Cobs, yep.
- 21:56Speaker 2: I mean a guy who makes an impact like that
- 21:59Speaker 2: a former team of his. You're at On Avarez. Usually
- 22:02Speaker 2: that's the case. Right now, he's hurt right hand inflammation
- 22:06Speaker 2: for him. AJ, I don't know if you did any
- 22:09Speaker 2: Astrois games yet, but I felt like when you watch
- 22:11Speaker 2: you hart On over the past month, he almost felt
- 22:13Speaker 2: that way, like is he okay? I mean he didn't
- 22:15Speaker 2: look good for he didn't look for a while. Now.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't been the monster that he's been his
- 22:20Speaker 1: his entire career. So yeah, something in the hand. Whatever
- 22:23Speaker 1: it is, just inflammation. Take ten days to get it
- 22:26Speaker 1: better and get back because they need this guy because
- 22:27Speaker 1: the Astros are in it right now. They are in it.
- 22:29Speaker 1: They're struggling to score runs or struggling just in general,
- 22:32Speaker 1: so they need they need to not lose too much
- 22:34Speaker 1: ground while he's down.
- 22:37Speaker 2: He lost some friends to Trevor. He lost Kyle Tucker
- 22:41Speaker 2: and Alex Bragman, who I think were Player of the
- 22:43Speaker 2: Week like the first or second week of the season.
- 22:45Speaker 2: I mean, eventually, you keep losing all your friends, it
- 22:47Speaker 2: gets a little tougher.
- 22:50Speaker 3: It definitely gets a little bit tougher.
- 22:51Speaker 4: I was just having a conversation with one of my
- 22:55Speaker 4: producers on my show, and he's a huge Mariners fan,
- 22:57Speaker 4: and they just track what the astros are doing, like
- 23:00Speaker 4: almost as closely as they track their own team, and
- 23:03Speaker 4: so we were just talking about it, like he's the
- 23:05Speaker 4: only one left from from him in Altuve and al
- 23:08Speaker 4: two is like, I'm in left and I don't know,
- 23:09Speaker 4: I don't know why why, I'm still know why I'm
- 23:12Speaker 4: out here. Uh So it's a definitely a different team. Uh,
- 23:15Speaker 4: They're not as he The sentiment was, They're not as scary,
- 23:18Speaker 4: doesn't They don't seem as inevitable as they have been
- 23:21Speaker 4: in the past. And then just you know him, him
- 23:24Speaker 4: having a nagging injury just over time and then going
- 23:27Speaker 4: down is another I think, uh a blow to them,
- 23:30Speaker 4: But uh, it's one of those things like you've got
- 23:32Speaker 4: a sore hand.
- 23:34Speaker 3: He just can't swing the bat, like can you to
- 23:35Speaker 3: swing the bat. It's just the way it is.
- 23:36Speaker 4: So sometimes you just got to take care of that
- 23:38Speaker 4: stuff and let the chips fall with They may so,
- 23:41Speaker 4: but I I anticipated not being along along shelf, and uh,
- 23:46Speaker 4: they'll be back hitting the ball way too hard at
- 23:49Speaker 4: guys before we know it.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Uh.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Not to mention, the A's are playing pretty good ball too,
- 23:56Speaker 2: so they might be a pain to deal with in
- 23:58Speaker 2: the division, even if the Mariners come back to earth
- 24:00Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 24:02Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Boys, Yeah, boys are playing good ball right now.
- 24:06Speaker 3: They are.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Lastly, ta Oscar Hernandez getting an MRI. Dave Roberts said
- 24:12Speaker 2: a little concerning tightness in his hamstring adductor krats. I
- 24:18Speaker 2: don't think the concern level is going to be as high.
- 24:20Speaker 2: That's why we did this third concern level for him. Sure,
- 24:22Speaker 2: but Dodgers not really.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Dodgers, just they just keep flowing people out of their
- 24:30Speaker 5: minor league system off their bench. Keyk will come in
- 24:34Speaker 5: and get some more AB's probably hit a few more dingers.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Yes, stop it.
- 24:40Speaker 5: This is where the depth of a team, Yes, you
- 24:42Speaker 5: have guys that can fill in on the field, but
- 24:45Speaker 5: the depth of the team doesn't make him come back
- 24:48Speaker 5: after seven days of no games. It allows him to
- 24:52Speaker 5: possibly go into il if he needs to, or possibly
- 24:56Speaker 5: sit out seven games instead of coming back in the
- 25:00Speaker 5: third game. You know, you're not They're not scraping to
- 25:03Speaker 5: get wins. They're not scraping to have serviceable big league players,
- 25:07Speaker 5: just the next guy up.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Yeah, not to mention looking at the numbers for Andy
- 25:11Speaker 2: Paez in the last couple of weeks too, so there's
- 25:15Speaker 2: a lot of talent there. Dodger fans were freaking out
- 25:18Speaker 2: two weeks into the season. It's like, yeah, this was
- 25:20Speaker 2: a pretty good prospect for them. Hey, I want today
- 25:22Speaker 2: this minute to congratulate Trevor May Baseball on one hundred
- 25:26Speaker 2: thousand YouTube subscribers. Yeah, congrats Trevor. We recently hit the
- 25:31Speaker 2: hondo mark.
- 25:33Speaker 4: Yeah I notice. Yeah, I beat you there, and then
- 25:36Speaker 4: you guys blew past me. So we're not even We're
- 25:39Speaker 4: not even close anymore. So congratulations to foul Territory as well.
- 25:44Speaker 3: It's a big, big deal.
- 25:45Speaker 4: I don't know who is in charge of doing this
- 25:47Speaker 4: for you guys, but who who's going to take care
- 25:49Speaker 4: of the plaque. Have you guys gotten that that yeah
- 25:53Speaker 4: locked up yet?
- 25:53Speaker 3: Your YouTube plac It's a big deal, big deal.
- 25:55Speaker 2: It is a big deal. Yes, we apparently filled out
- 25:58Speaker 2: something that we were supposed to do and it will
- 26:01Speaker 2: go in the Prasinski wing. Maybe what do you think
- 26:04Speaker 2: aj next to the bronze catcher statue.
- 26:08Speaker 1: I don't know. I got to see it first. Uh
- 26:10Speaker 1: so we'll see, we'll see. We'll see when it gets
- 26:12Speaker 1: here how big it is and where it needs to go.
- 26:13Speaker 1: But we'll see. I see as.
- 26:17Speaker 3: Phillies mine mine arrives tomorrow. Actually, wow, tracking.
- 26:23Speaker 1: That thing like a hawk, big status deel, big status.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Big flex, big flex for us With the hundred, I
- 26:30Speaker 2: felt like there were some people kind of looking at
- 26:32Speaker 2: us like me, I don't know if I'm going to
- 26:34Speaker 2: give these guys the really difficult click to give them
- 26:39Speaker 2: a free sub even though you know it's over like
- 26:41Speaker 2: fifty percent of our watchers on YouTube, we're just not
- 26:44Speaker 2: pressing the sub button. I feel like maybe the hundred
- 26:48Speaker 2: made them feel like we were cool enough to sit
- 26:50Speaker 2: together at the lunch table.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Now, maybe you're a serious channel.
- 26:54Speaker 4: Now that's it's just you gotta have a hunder k
- 26:57Speaker 4: or not real that's what they said.
- 27:00Speaker 2: All right, we ditched krats aj. That button finally worked,
- 27:04Speaker 2: the crats ejected button. Nice, that's good. Yeah, well placed.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a coach a game or something.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's got a playoff game something like that.
- 27:15Speaker 2: For anyone that's unaware, we probably don't really talk about
- 27:17Speaker 2: it much on the show. Kratz is a high school coach.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Coach Kratz, so it's part of the reason why he
- 27:23Speaker 2: does this show. So you can have cool tiktoks and
- 27:25Speaker 2: you know, one hundred k plus YouTube subscribers stuff like that,
- 27:28Speaker 2: so it really works out for him. Anyway, we're gonna
- 27:31Speaker 2: get to the Yankees Padres game from last night coming
- 27:34Speaker 2: up in a minute. And know Nick in the chat said,
- 27:37Speaker 2: if you test positive for PDS, you serve your suspension.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Are you also not eligible for the postseason? Nick, as
- 27:41Speaker 2: far as I know, that is still the rule. Are
- 27:43Speaker 2: you guys with me there?
- 27:44Speaker 1: Right?
- 27:45Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yep, which, which.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Must suck like pro far it's going to play that
- 27:49Speaker 2: out right, I mean, he's gonna come back, he's gonna
- 27:52Speaker 2: play in the second half of the season, and then
- 27:54Speaker 2: you're gonna say bye to him. You know, if the
- 27:56Speaker 2: Braves make the playoffs, but jj is likely, I would.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Say, have a shot. Keep playing the way they're playing,
- 28:03Speaker 1: they definitely have a shot. And if he's not there,
- 28:05Speaker 1: it's a weird situation. I was part of the Nelson
- 28:08Speaker 1: Cruz twenty thirteen. He got suspended for the rest of
- 28:12Speaker 1: the year, and then we had a one game playoff
- 28:14Speaker 1: and he came back after not playing like the last
- 28:16Speaker 1: forty games, and it was just weird to have him back.
- 28:18Speaker 1: We're like, wait, oh, hi, we obviously lost that game
- 28:21Speaker 1: and didn't get into the postseason, but then he wouldn't
- 28:23Speaker 1: have been eligible for the postseason. I don't know. The
- 28:25Speaker 1: whole thing is weird. Don't do drugs, kids, Let's just
- 28:27Speaker 1: don't do steroids.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Let's sizzle. We've got our pitcher on today and Trevor
- 28:34Speaker 2: may So. We've hit this topic quite a bit over
- 28:37Speaker 2: the last few weeks, but we have to keep doing it.
- 28:39Speaker 2: He was, you know, the game's a top five closer
- 28:42Speaker 2: in the game right over the past few years. And
- 28:44Speaker 2: Devin Williams is not the closer for the Yanks right now,
- 28:46Speaker 2: but he was part of the bullpen unraveling and it
- 28:49Speaker 2: was Luke Weaver two as the Padres put up four
- 28:51Speaker 2: runs in the eighth inning, Bogart's with the big go
- 28:54Speaker 2: ahead knock and they beat the Yankees four to three,
- 28:56Speaker 2: turned three nothing into a four to three win. So
- 28:59Speaker 2: we can show the quote to from Devin Williams and
- 29:02Speaker 2: Trevor if you want to comment off that one and
- 29:04Speaker 2: what you're seeing from Devin. He said quote, I feel good,
- 29:07Speaker 2: I feel confident on the mount. I felt like I
- 29:09Speaker 2: was in a good spot. It's one of those nights
- 29:11Speaker 2: where you're not only battling the hitter. I was battling
- 29:13Speaker 2: the mound. We're all given the same set of circumstances.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I couldn't come through tonight. I mean it was raining
- 29:18Speaker 2: last night. Is that what he's talking about?
- 29:21Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit.
- 29:23Speaker 4: He seems like he feels a little bit uncomfortable in
- 29:25Speaker 4: his delivery. His fastball command has been horrendous this year,
- 29:29Speaker 4: and that's the big reason that he I think he's
- 29:32Speaker 4: had the struggles or at least put himself in position
- 29:34Speaker 4: to have bad luck, because he's had a lot of
- 29:36Speaker 4: bad luck. Like last night, he left the game up
- 29:40Speaker 4: three to nothing with bass loaded and two outs, like
- 29:43Speaker 4: flyball away from being okay, and it just so happened
- 29:46Speaker 4: that all of his runs got cashed in and now
- 29:47Speaker 4: they're on his ra so it looks way worse, and
- 29:50Speaker 4: it can be something that simple. His bab it is
- 29:55Speaker 4: like four hundred against him this year, which is way
- 29:57Speaker 4: higher and it's ever been. But it's just because he's
- 29:59Speaker 4: not throwing strike one. It's only first pitch strikes fifty
- 30:01Speaker 4: percent of the time this year, and he's lower than
- 30:03Speaker 4: league average usually. But that's that's not that's not serviceable.
- 30:07Speaker 4: You can't do that. You're walking too many guys. He's
- 30:10Speaker 4: a guy who walks guys too. He's just for light
- 30:12Speaker 4: on strikeouts. He's not getting them. So that said, his
- 30:16Speaker 4: stuff's the same, Like his velocity is the same that
- 30:18Speaker 4: it wasn't twenty two and twenty three. His change up
- 30:20Speaker 4: and everything's moving the same. He's using it the same.
- 30:23Speaker 4: The commands just a little bit off and really untimely
- 30:28Speaker 4: hits are getting him. But I think that, you know,
- 30:32Speaker 4: he's not that far away from being locked back in again.
- 30:35Speaker 4: It's just he's got to get He's just got one.
- 30:38Speaker 4: Domino needs a fall in his direction, and then I
- 30:41Speaker 4: think we're we're going to see the old Devin Williams,
- 30:43Speaker 4: very similarly to when like Hater went over to San
- 30:46Speaker 4: Diego and was the worst picture on the planet for
- 30:48Speaker 4: a whole month, and it was no one knew what
- 30:50Speaker 4: was going on, and then suddenly he was Josh hayerv
- 30:52Speaker 4: Old for the last three months with the one Era.
- 30:54Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Devin Williams
- 30:58Speaker 4: came back got back into closer to that form. I
- 31:01Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to be full full brewers
- 31:03Speaker 4: for him, but you know, I wouldn't write him off
- 31:06Speaker 4: because there's nothing glaring there that says this might be
- 31:08Speaker 4: a you know, a deterioration problem.
- 31:11Speaker 3: I think it's just a luck thing. It's time at
- 31:13Speaker 3: this point. Aj.
- 31:14Speaker 2: It's the primary reason why the Yankees haven't really pulled away,
- 31:19Speaker 2: and they could have even at this point. I mean,
- 31:21Speaker 2: you know, again, we know it's early May, but they
- 31:24Speaker 2: could have a really sizeable advantage in the division. They
- 31:28Speaker 2: have five losses when leading in the eighth inning or later.
- 31:31Speaker 2: That is tops in baseball, and the Yankees usually do
- 31:34Speaker 2: a great job of building a bullpen. This is mostly
- 31:37Speaker 2: falling on Devin Williams just choking early on in the season.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's all on Devin Williams.
- 31:42Speaker 1: You know, if Luke Weaver listen and he probably wasn't
- 31:45Speaker 1: one hundred percent ready to come in the eighth last night.
- 31:48Speaker 1: If he gets a guy out, like Trevor said, then
- 31:50Speaker 1: this is all or not. The walks are the problem
- 31:53Speaker 1: for Devon. He gives up some weak contact for that hit,
- 31:55Speaker 1: and then Manny Machado. It just happened to be in
- 31:58Speaker 1: the middle of the order too. Like, if this happens
- 32:00Speaker 1: and he's down at seven, eight nine, maybe Luke Weaver
- 32:02Speaker 1: comes in and gets out of it. But he walked
- 32:05Speaker 1: a rise to get the Machada. Machado came up with
- 32:07Speaker 1: a big double and then Bogart's with the hit to
- 32:09Speaker 1: cash them all in. So I don't know what the
- 32:14Speaker 1: answer is for Devin Williams. But he needs to keep
- 32:16Speaker 1: running out there, and he needs to keep doing what
- 32:18Speaker 1: he's doing. But I know he needs better command than
- 32:20Speaker 1: what he has. And you know when he says, oh,
- 32:23Speaker 1: I was battling the mound, well, I watched the ninth
- 32:25Speaker 1: inning of that game and Suarez came in and he
- 32:27Speaker 1: was soaked and he didn't have a problem he mowed
- 32:29Speaker 1: through him. So yeah, everyone was battling the same mount
- 32:31Speaker 1: I liked. He acknowledged that. But at the same time,
- 32:33Speaker 1: we just need better command.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Would you put him in an even lower leverage spot
- 32:38Speaker 2: now for a bit?
- 32:40Speaker 1: Aj he was good though, he was good the last
- 32:42Speaker 1: three outings until last night. It has been good. So
- 32:46Speaker 1: what's the leverage you're gonna put him in? They put
- 32:48Speaker 1: him in low leverage. He had a three to nothing
- 32:50Speaker 1: lead in the eight against the bottom of the order,
- 32:52Speaker 1: and because of the walks and the broken bat hit,
- 32:54Speaker 1: he turned it over to the middle of the order.
- 32:55Speaker 1: So I don't know what other lower leverage situation that's
- 32:58Speaker 1: gonna pitch him in a blowout. The thing you just
- 33:00Speaker 1: never know. You still need this gotta be good for you,
- 33:02Speaker 1: for the Yankees. You got to get him back right.
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- 33:34Speaker 2: code foul Any other tips, Trevor, I mean, he's not
- 33:37Speaker 2: gonna do with on the change up.
- 33:41Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.
- 33:42Speaker 4: It comes down to the fastball command, right, Like, if
- 33:45Speaker 4: you don't have fastball command and you're only two pitch
- 33:47Speaker 4: pitcher and your other pitch is a change up, like
- 33:49Speaker 4: you're not, it's not gonna be as effective no matter how,
- 33:53Speaker 4: no matter if it has a nickname the airbender or not.
- 33:56Speaker 4: Like it just isn't like a change up just is
- 33:58Speaker 4: not a pitch that you go and say, hey, I'm
- 34:00Speaker 4: throwing a change up.
- 34:01Speaker 3: You can't hit it.
- 34:01Speaker 4: But there's very few guys who who have that type
- 34:04Speaker 4: of swing of miss pitch. Though it is kind of
- 34:06Speaker 4: a left handed slider. It's as close as you can
- 34:07Speaker 4: get to one of those. It's still you need your fastball,
- 34:10Speaker 4: especially because it's velocity isn't what it was when he,
- 34:13Speaker 4: you know, first came up, so he's dependent on that.
- 34:16Speaker 4: But I do think that in terms of leverage and things.
- 34:20Speaker 4: They have opportunities. I think that Lighter could throw, you know,
- 34:22Speaker 4: the eighth maybe, or or one of the other guys,
- 34:25Speaker 4: or Fernando Cruz throwing the funky splitters. They all have
- 34:27Speaker 4: these weird change ups, their whole bullpen does. It's like
- 34:30Speaker 4: what they love. So they have options. The guys who
- 34:33Speaker 4: have thrown, well, who could who could give him a
- 34:35Speaker 4: little bit less leverage, But they just the opportunities haven't
- 34:37Speaker 4: presented themselves. There hasn't been like a six nothing game
- 34:39Speaker 4: or like a down, you know, down four nothing or
- 34:42Speaker 4: something game like. They're just always either close or big blowouts,
- 34:45Speaker 4: and they're just trying to keep him close to that
- 34:48Speaker 4: leverage without having it be all on him. So it
- 34:50Speaker 4: makes sense. But it's just as soon as one. I think,
- 34:54Speaker 4: as soon as he gets a game where he goes
- 34:56Speaker 4: out and he has those two punches and it's a
- 34:58Speaker 4: three three up, three down, clean, then I expect those
- 35:02Speaker 4: to stack up because that's what he's been known for,
- 35:04Speaker 4: like those streaks where no one could sniff him. I
- 35:07Speaker 4: anticipate once that happens, it'll be he'll start a streak
- 35:10Speaker 4: and then things will start to level out.
- 35:12Speaker 3: It's just you know.
- 35:13Speaker 4: And he's also used to pitching with a roof at
- 35:15Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, and hey, hasn't done that.
- 35:17Speaker 4: It's colder and wetter in New York, so there's a
- 35:20Speaker 4: little bit of that going on too that he's not
- 35:22Speaker 4: used to.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Not saying that.
- 35:23Speaker 4: It's excuse, but that isn't adjusting it to make so
- 35:26Speaker 4: it starts to warm up a little bit.
- 35:27Speaker 3: That will help him out a bit to get back
- 35:29Speaker 3: on track.
- 35:30Speaker 2: A jay he can call Clay Holmes. I mean, Yankee
- 35:34Speaker 2: fans were ready to ship him to Little League ball
- 35:36Speaker 2: and then in the playoffs they're like, just kidding me,
- 35:39Speaker 2: love you, You're awesome, and so.
- 35:42Speaker 1: What have you done for me lately? League? That's the
- 35:44Speaker 1: way this what league works, got I mean, that's the
- 35:47Speaker 1: truth of it. It is what it is. And that's
- 35:50Speaker 1: especially in New York, a place for you under the
- 35:52Speaker 1: microscope twenty four hours a day. If you don't perform,
- 35:55Speaker 1: they're going to get on you. But yeah, Clay Holmes
- 35:57Speaker 1: worked it out, figured it out. Now look at him,
- 35:59Speaker 1: he's a pretty good starter of the other team in
- 36:00Speaker 1: New York.
- 36:02Speaker 2: So what have you done for me lately? Town to
- 36:04Speaker 2: say you get a little less of a leash here
- 36:07Speaker 2: in New York City. So also from that game, I
- 36:10Speaker 2: mean you teed me up a little bit on this
- 36:12Speaker 2: one with some splitter talk. What do we call what
- 36:15Speaker 2: Jeremiah Estrada is doing now?
- 36:20Speaker 4: Is it a splinker? Are we going splinker? Because he
- 36:24Speaker 4: has the oh, he's got the Oh. No, that's a
- 36:27Speaker 4: that's a vulcan's that's a vult change. Yeah, so those
- 36:31Speaker 4: things are not actually as rare as you would think. Actually,
- 36:34Speaker 4: that's a pretty pronounced one. But I played with a
- 36:37Speaker 4: bunch of guys that used to throw those and they
- 36:38Speaker 4: went out of style for a while. That's how you
- 36:41Speaker 4: get like the power change kind of movement splitter, but
- 36:44Speaker 4: be slow.
- 36:46Speaker 3: So that's what he wants.
- 36:47Speaker 4: He wants a huge difference in velocity between his splitter
- 36:51Speaker 4: and his very high ride one of the best riding
- 36:54Speaker 4: fast balls in the major leagues. He wants a big
- 36:56Speaker 4: difference in velo and movement. And it's just weird enough.
- 37:00Speaker 4: It actually doesn't move a ton. It moves kind of weird,
- 37:04Speaker 4: not really traditional the same way as a lot of
- 37:06Speaker 4: armside run, not a lot of.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Depth, which splitters don't usually do. But it works for him.
- 37:11Speaker 4: Because his his fastball is so good, so sometimes you
- 37:15Speaker 4: just got to be different as opposed to good.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Felix Batista is very similar to that.
- 37:20Speaker 4: His splitter is not in a vacuum really good, but
- 37:22Speaker 4: it's hot his ride on his fastball and he throws
- 37:24Speaker 4: so hard that like it's different enough that it's it's
- 37:28Speaker 4: weird and hard to hit. So he's definitely in that
- 37:30Speaker 4: in that category. But yeah, he's one of my favorite splitters,
- 37:33Speaker 4: up there with Smith Shower right now in the league.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah, he's damn good. That bullpen's good. I mean last
- 37:43Speaker 2: year that bullpen almost took them to a World Series.
- 37:46Speaker 2: It was close.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Let's not forget Mike Silt standing up for his guy
- 37:50Speaker 1: too and then getting him to score the four runs.
- 37:52Speaker 1: Mike Show came out there and did what he had
- 37:54Speaker 1: to do. Tatis gets ejected and Show comes out, throws
- 37:57Speaker 1: his pen, throws his lineup card, throws his glasses. Knows
- 38:00Speaker 1: his star player just got ejected. He's got to go
- 38:02Speaker 1: with him. I don't know if it fired up the
- 38:04Speaker 1: boys a little bit, but again they were in a
- 38:05Speaker 1: good part of the lineup. Or Rise walks many double
- 38:08Speaker 1: bogie gives them a lead, they go in and close
- 38:10Speaker 1: it out. I mean, if anything at least knows, Hey,
- 38:13Speaker 1: the manager's got my guys back. If if push comes
- 38:15Speaker 1: to show, Shilty went out there and stood up for
- 38:18Speaker 1: his guy.
- 38:19Speaker 4: When Shilty throws his pen, he is not coming back.
- 38:24Speaker 4: As soon as he puts his pen down, he knows
- 38:26Speaker 4: he's not going back on that dugout. That is, that
- 38:29Speaker 4: is when he has decided he has done.
- 38:31Speaker 3: So you knew. You knew the moment he put everything down,
- 38:34Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not coming back. Boys. I love that.
- 38:36Speaker 4: I love that, and I love the way they responded.
- 38:38Speaker 4: That was a big, big deal. I wonder what he's
- 38:40Speaker 4: saying though. It's really hard to read his lips on
- 38:43Speaker 4: the TV.
- 38:43Speaker 3: There. That's a joke everyone, by the way, go watch.
- 38:46Speaker 3: It's pretty easy to see what he was saying.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes to curse. I'll put that lightly passionate. Yeah,
- 38:55Speaker 2: remember actually real quick, and then we'll break and get
- 38:57Speaker 2: to Rosenthal. Remember who is it Shilt's first season? I
- 39:02Speaker 2: want to say taking over the Cardinals. AJ. Wasn't there
- 39:05Speaker 2: a guy who recorded his speech.
- 39:07Speaker 1: And then the guy who recorded his post game speech
- 39:13Speaker 1: after they won the first round, And then she'll got
- 39:15Speaker 1: in trouble for it, and Randy got traded. So yeah,
- 39:17Speaker 1: it was Randy a Rose Arena who he was. He
- 39:21Speaker 1: put it on Google Live or Facebook live or Twitter
- 39:23Speaker 1: live or one of the lives. And no no, which
- 39:27Speaker 1: by the way, is a no no. What happens in
- 39:29Speaker 1: the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse. Sorry, don't do that.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Of course, do not do that. What happens in the
- 39:36Speaker 1: clubhouse stays in the clubhouse.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Unless given permission, unless they're like, hey, we're gonna all
- 39:41Speaker 2: do a thing and use our phones. I mean, I've
- 39:44Speaker 2: seen sometimes guys are celebrating they won a series AJ
- 39:49Speaker 2: and the media is already in there anyway with cameras
- 39:52Speaker 2: and everything, and then the guys you know, have their
- 39:53Speaker 2: phones and they're getting drinks with champagne. Stuff like that
- 39:56Speaker 2: is okay, but yes, when you're I think first year
- 39:59Speaker 2: si Upper at the time is running an expletive filled rant.
- 40:04Speaker 1: It was just the team. It's not okay, there's no
- 40:08Speaker 1: excuse for it. It was just the team. The media was
- 40:10Speaker 1: already out. It was the team. Shilt was addressing the team.
- 40:13Speaker 1: The team. What he says, the team stays in the team.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Yes, I'm saying if the team is celebrating and the
- 40:20Speaker 2: media is already in there.
- 40:22Speaker 3: That is probably that's okay.
- 40:23Speaker 1: That's why because guys know, guys know they're going to
- 40:25Speaker 1: watch themselves at the media. When it's just the team,
- 40:28Speaker 1: guys say things different than they would with the media around.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Trevor knows that it's a different atmosphere when it's just
- 40:34Speaker 1: the boys. The boys are going to say different things.
- 40:36Speaker 1: Then when there's media.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Here we go. Let's slap bring up a couple comments
- 40:54Speaker 2: from the show. Our guy Moral, who sometimes gets put
- 40:58Speaker 2: in time out, said he that Spencer Schwellenbach will have
- 41:02Speaker 2: a better career than Spencer Strider. It's actually not a
- 41:06Speaker 2: crazy take. Strider's got to get himself back on the field.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Of course, he's got more swing and miss stuff. But
- 41:12Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a believer in Spencer Swellenbach, Trevor
- 41:16Speaker 2: and the arsenal that he's got already at a young
- 41:18Speaker 2: age and the quick success that he's had, that's not
- 41:20Speaker 2: a crazy take.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
- 41:23Speaker 4: I don't think that's a crazy take. It comes down
- 41:24Speaker 4: to I think just career longevity. I think Strider's got
- 41:28Speaker 4: the the dominant stuff, but it's just you know, what
- 41:31Speaker 4: does that look like it's been a two pitch mix
- 41:34Speaker 4: a lot at the beginning. I think Swellenbach has definitely
- 41:36Speaker 4: establishediself as a big arsenal, full like his ability to
- 41:41Speaker 4: change and throw all his pitches, and he just gets
- 41:44Speaker 4: kind of more pitching as opposed to just bulldozing people.
- 41:47Speaker 3: So I see that, I see why. I could see
- 41:50Speaker 3: why someone would would feel that way.
- 41:52Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Sean asking AJ, since Wendy teams have an
- 41:56Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, isn't that just a.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Hitting coach pretty much? They just like fancy didn't We
- 42:02Speaker 1: have a whole thing about them making up fancy names
- 42:03Speaker 1: for all these things, like you know, quality control. It's
- 42:07Speaker 1: like a football staff now. Everybody has to have an
- 42:09Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, a defensive corner or a special teams coordinator.
- 42:12Speaker 1: It's football now. But it's fine.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a really good video on the title
- 42:18Speaker 2: inflation and just how much is too much for coaching
- 42:20Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball? And lastly, our buddy Jackson in
- 42:23Speaker 2: the chat everybody telling the Oaths to trade their prospects
- 42:27Speaker 2: for a pitcher Stowers and Norby for Trevor Rodgers. How
- 42:30Speaker 2: did that work out so far? Very well for Miami?
- 42:36Speaker 2: But they were running out of space. And guys, did
- 42:39Speaker 2: you know Kyle Stawers is twenty seven years old and
- 42:42Speaker 2: if you look at his minor league numbers the last
- 42:43Speaker 2: couple of seasons he was there, and he's a nice guy.
- 42:46Speaker 2: I mean he had nothing left to prove there clearly.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was happy. I don't know.
- 42:54Speaker 4: That didn't make any sense at the time. The Trevor
- 42:55Speaker 4: Rogers trade, they made no sense. So I don't know
- 42:58Speaker 4: what they were hoping together what they saw. I was
- 43:00Speaker 4: assuming they were like, oh, there's a diamond rof here,
- 43:03Speaker 4: there's something we can tell this guy. And then he's
- 43:05Speaker 4: just been hurt since, so maybe there is. Maybe he
- 43:07Speaker 4: just hasn't come to fruition yet. But yeah, that was
- 43:10Speaker 4: a head scratcher at the time. But I mean, how
- 43:11Speaker 4: many lefty sticks can you have? How many blonde lefty sticks.
- 43:15Speaker 3: Can you have? You know, in one organization they had
- 43:18Speaker 3: to someone had to go at some point.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Olias loves those blonde lefty sticks. That's gonna
- 43:24Speaker 2: get used out of context, aj you get last licks.
- 43:28Speaker 1: By the way, it's a birthday today and if you guys,
- 43:30Speaker 1: no one out there probably even knows who this is
- 43:33Speaker 1: is he Al Kunta. If you don't know who that is,
- 43:36Speaker 1: just google him and you will see one of the
- 43:38Speaker 1: greatest videos you've ever seen when he karate kicks the
- 43:41Speaker 1: catcher in Triple A. He was with the Red Sox
- 43:44Speaker 1: at the time. I don't know who they were playing
- 43:45Speaker 1: that guy. He gets it by a pitch. He literally
- 43:48Speaker 1: karate kicked the catcher behind him and then went out
- 43:51Speaker 1: and fought the whole team. So happy birthday? Is he?
- 43:54Speaker 1: I just don't want you to kick me, so happy birthday?
- 43:57Speaker 2: Did you know him?
- 43:58Speaker 1: I played against him for years? Yeah?
- 44:01Speaker 3: Was it was?
- 44:02Speaker 2: He?
- 44:03Speaker 1: No? He just.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Sometimes you snap.
- 44:11Speaker 2: He had is a mere Garrett moment the mirror versus
- 44:13Speaker 2: the whole team.
- 44:15Speaker 1: He took on whoever there. He kicked this dude and
- 44:18Speaker 1: went I mean then he went out to the mountain
- 44:20Speaker 1: and tried to fight the whole team.
- 44:22Speaker 4: The catcher literally disappears off the off the camera like
- 44:25Speaker 4: he's just gone.
- 44:27Speaker 1: He swept the leg and the neck and everything else.
- 44:29Speaker 1: I mean, just full super kick.
- 44:33Speaker 2: Well, kay, do you know what to google? We'll see tomorrow.
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