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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to The Late Debate.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
- 0:08Speaker 3: I'm Dannekindy Georgio tonight, joined by Joe Hildebrand and don't
- 0:12Speaker 3: adjust your sets whatever you do. You may have just
- 0:14Speaker 3: seen this man to the left of me a short
- 0:17Speaker 3: moment ago hosting PML.
- 0:18Speaker 2: What an honor and a.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Privilege that he is doing a back to back shift tonight,
- 0:22Speaker 3: James McPherson, ladies and gentlemen, stunning.
- 0:24Speaker 4: Well, I've just missed you guys, so I thought, you
- 0:26Speaker 4: know what, since I'm here, I might as well drop
- 0:28Speaker 4: in and that we can spend the next hour a minute.
- 0:31Speaker 5: You're in his chair, Yes, he's in my chair. Yes,
- 0:36Speaker 5: I'm in the girl's chair.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Correct.
- 0:39Speaker 5: It's actually like The Late Debate directed by Christopher Nolan.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Lay up like, but I mean, you don't look like
- 0:46Speaker 2: Caleb Bond.
- 0:47Speaker 3: You haven't got your kerchief and you're matching socks tonight.
- 0:49Speaker 4: So to be as stylish and as fashionable as Caleb,
- 0:52Speaker 4: it's one of my life goals.
- 0:54Speaker 3: On the it doesn't happen over something I always yeah,
- 0:59Speaker 3: look I'm and it's something that you can work on
- 1:01Speaker 3: in life, James. We all have faults, but you know
- 1:03Speaker 3: you do your very best.
- 1:04Speaker 2: All right. We're coming up on the show tonight.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Microwaves not heating up food and burning foods, stoves with
- 1:10Speaker 3: hot plates that don't function, and a split system air
- 1:13Speaker 3: con that doesn't work, or because of the transition to renewables,
- 1:17Speaker 3: will tell you about the disastrous rollout in one Melbourne street.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Could artificial intelligence be to blame for a mass shooting
- 1:24Speaker 3: in Florida last year?
- 1:26Speaker 2: Authorities have launched a criminal.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Investigation into whether chat GPT helped the accused.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Planet and will take a look at the front pages.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Almost half of toilets and all new public buildings across
- 1:37Speaker 3: the country could be gender neutral. I'll tell you what
- 1:40Speaker 3: the headline is later for first tonight.
- 1:43Speaker 2: What does the word.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Assimilation mean to you when it comes to immigration, Well,
- 1:48Speaker 3: to me, it means migrants who are welcomed here with
- 1:50Speaker 3: open arms adapt to our culture, our values and our
- 1:53Speaker 3: way of life. But if you ask the Minister in charge,
- 1:56Speaker 3: Tony Burke, he seems to think, no, no, it's the
- 2:00Speaker 3: other way around.
- 2:03Speaker 6: The concept of immigration is people when they come to
- 2:07Speaker 6: Australia want to be part of Australia. That's what people want.
- 2:10Speaker 6: And I've never accepted the word assimilation. I don't want
- 2:13Speaker 6: people to lose who they are. The word integration is
- 2:16Speaker 6: one that's being used as part of a multicultural dialogue
- 2:20Speaker 6: for a very long time, and that's what it is
- 2:23Speaker 6: like want. We want people for who they are. I've
- 2:27Speaker 6: never subscribed to that sort of melting pot concept that
- 2:30Speaker 6: your whole identity is meant to be dissolved.
- 2:33Speaker 2: We want people for who they are.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Well, So ged Akrom, the Bondai mass murderer was from India.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Is he an example of a person we would want
- 2:41Speaker 3: for who they are? Never mind he was a radical
- 2:43Speaker 3: extremist who hated the West.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Should we just love him for who he was?
- 2:48Speaker 3: And we know that Labour's migration record is already a disaster,
- 2:51Speaker 3: but how can we keep our culture and values alive
- 2:53Speaker 3: if we just dismiss that and say, oh, well, look,
- 2:55Speaker 3: you know we have to assimilate to migrant's way of life,
- 2:57Speaker 3: not the other way around, and in my view, add
- 3:00Speaker 3: no value if you don't want to come here and assimilate,
- 3:02Speaker 3: So stay.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Where you are and have a look at this.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Over in the UK, the mandatory English language test for
- 3:08Speaker 3: migrants could soon be run on digital app Duo Lingo
- 3:11Speaker 3: despite concerns about cheatahs and raughts James, are there any
- 3:16Speaker 3: left wing governments around the world that are actually serious
- 3:19Speaker 3: about migration.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Or they're very serious about migration.
- 3:22Speaker 4: They love it, which is why they perpetuate it ad nauseum.
- 3:26Speaker 4: I'm really disturbed by Tony Burk's comments there that he
- 3:29Speaker 4: doesn't want migrants to assimilate into this country because they
- 3:34Speaker 4: shouldn't lose who they are. Sorry, but your culture is
- 3:37Speaker 4: not you. You adopt a culture, you grow up in
- 3:40Speaker 4: a culture, but then you can change cultures, you can
- 3:43Speaker 4: move cultures. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with
- 3:46Speaker 4: Ossie culture. If there's anything wrong with Ossie culture, then
- 3:49Speaker 4: don't come. But I assume people come here because they
- 3:52Speaker 4: love our culture, and it's our culture that's built the
- 3:55Speaker 4: sort of country that people want to come to. So
- 3:57Speaker 4: if you're going to come here and benefit from every
- 4:00Speaker 4: everything that our culture has built, you should contribute to
- 4:03Speaker 4: that culture, not run a parallel culture while taking advantage
- 4:08Speaker 4: of everything that we provide.
- 4:09Speaker 5: I don't have the problem with anything you said at all.
- 4:11Speaker 5: I find it really strange that this is even like
- 4:14Speaker 5: such a contested issue.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Don't you have an issue you don't have When it
- 4:17Speaker 3: comes to assimilation, yeah.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Absolutely, for as long as people are integrating, as long
- 4:21Speaker 5: as they're part of the community. No one's saying don't contribute.
- 4:24Speaker 5: That's not the same thing as assimilating. It's just saying
- 4:26Speaker 5: you don't have to be you know, you don't have
- 4:28Speaker 5: to throw away everything that you grew up with, all
- 4:32Speaker 5: the values that you have, as long as they don't
- 4:33Speaker 5: conflict with Australian law. What's the problem. And no one's
- 4:37Speaker 5: saying we want terrorists to come. I mean that guy
- 4:39Speaker 5: came here twenty years ago.
- 4:40Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter.
- 4:41Speaker 3: The point is is that we want people to come
- 4:43Speaker 3: here and we want people to assimilate into our country, Joe.
- 4:45Speaker 3: We want people to be part of our values. We
- 4:47Speaker 3: want them to be proud Australians. I mean, we live
- 4:49Speaker 3: in the luckiest country.
- 4:50Speaker 5: What does that mean though?
- 4:51Speaker 2: Does that meaning from places?
- 4:53Speaker 3: Mean they're coming from the world, If they're coming from
- 4:55Speaker 3: if they're coming from terrible, terrible countries, oppressive regimes, and
- 4:59Speaker 3: they to live in the best country in the world,
- 5:01Speaker 3: then they have to actually respect our values and live
- 5:04Speaker 3: What is that?
- 5:04Speaker 5: What does that mean though? Like, what do you mean
- 5:06Speaker 5: to similate.
- 5:06Speaker 2: They have to.
- 5:07Speaker 3: They have to be able to, they have to love
- 5:08Speaker 3: this country, they have to be proud of this country.
- 5:10Speaker 2: They I don't have a problems. Of course they can
- 5:14Speaker 2: wear turbans.
- 5:14Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but it's saying we have to
- 5:16Speaker 3: be respectful of our values.
- 5:18Speaker 5: They are no one, no one's disagreeing with that. But
- 5:20Speaker 5: I'm saying that there are some that have been similation
- 5:23Speaker 5: become the same.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I would support that.
- 5:26Speaker 4: I think we want people to become Australians, not not
- 5:30Speaker 4: to seats.
- 5:31Speaker 5: For example, should not be able to wear grow their hair,
- 5:34Speaker 5: long wear turban.
- 5:35Speaker 3: No, we're talking about values. When we're talking about values
- 5:37Speaker 3: I don't have. I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking
- 5:39Speaker 3: about values.
- 5:40Speaker 1: You have to religion and values the kind ones they
- 5:44Speaker 1: are saying.
- 5:44Speaker 3: But well, you can't say well, you can't say no,
- 5:46Speaker 3: we can't get sick seaks into the country or Catholic
- 5:49Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
- 5:50Speaker 2: You can't say that.
- 5:50Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is is there have been some
- 5:52Speaker 3: people that have been got into this.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Country who hate us and hate our values.
- 5:56Speaker 5: And they do more terrors.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Burke was saying to terrorist, I'm saying, that's great to
- 6:04Speaker 3: our society.
- 6:06Speaker 2: But assimilation. If you're scared of the word assimilation, we've
- 6:10Speaker 2: got a problem.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I think if you.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Mean to be the same, So I want to know
- 6:13Speaker 5: what you mean by coming here and being the same
- 6:16Speaker 5: as what.
- 6:16Speaker 4: There are parts of Sydney where you could go and
- 6:20Speaker 4: it's like you've walked into a different country. Absolutely, So
- 6:24Speaker 4: that's clearly not a similation. That's what do you want
- 6:27Speaker 4: to call it? A cultural ghetto?
- 6:29Speaker 5: It's like Harris Park, Little India. I know a guy
- 6:34Speaker 5: right who is in He came to Australia. He loves
- 6:38Speaker 5: Australia more than anything. He lives. He has a house
- 6:41Speaker 5: in Little he has a restaurant in Little India, literally
- 6:45Speaker 5: Little India. So you go there, it's just like you're
- 6:47Speaker 5: in India, right, So, no, it's not a similation at all.
- 6:50Speaker 5: He's a Sikh. He's got a turban. Every week he
- 6:55Speaker 5: hands out free meals to anyone in the community who
- 6:58Speaker 5: want ones, who wants.
- 6:59Speaker 1: One one he wants. He's not a good guy.
- 7:01Speaker 2: We're not saying he's not a good guy.
- 7:02Speaker 5: He's saying he hasn't assimilated, so that this guy should
- 7:04Speaker 5: assimilate it Australia.
- 7:06Speaker 3: But does he but does he love this country absolutely,
- 7:09Speaker 3: and then he therefore he has assimilated.
- 7:11Speaker 5: He hasn't asimilated at all. It as his country.
- 7:15Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that he's a second. I don't have
- 7:17Speaker 3: a problem that he's a Sikh. I don't have a
- 7:19Speaker 3: problem with that, and I can't.
- 7:20Speaker 5: That is assimilation. I don't think you're saying that.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Okay, let me give you an example.
- 7:24Speaker 3: When my grandparents came here from Italy back after World
- 7:26Speaker 3: War Two. They all they all went about two hours
- 7:29Speaker 3: south of Perth, right just outside of Bumbery. None of
- 7:32Speaker 3: them could speak a word of English. It was like
- 7:33Speaker 3: little Italy in the town that they were living in.
- 7:35Speaker 3: But let me tell you, they love this country. They
- 7:37Speaker 3: work their backsides off to try and assimilate. They couldn't
- 7:39Speaker 3: speak a word of English. They were absolutely called racial slurs,
- 7:42Speaker 3: but it didn't matter why because they love this country.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And I would say to my late grandmother during.
- 7:46Speaker 3: The Olympics, do you support Italy or Australia, And she said,
- 7:49Speaker 3: I always support Australia because that is the country that
- 7:51Speaker 3: I live in right now.
- 7:52Speaker 2: But that is a difference.
- 7:54Speaker 5: Italy by definition is not assimilated.
- 7:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Joe, And I think what Danika
- 7:58Speaker 4: is trying to say, if I can try, and if
- 8:01Speaker 4: I'm reading you right, if you love Australia, then you
- 8:05Speaker 4: will embrace Australia and try and become Australian. To say
- 8:08Speaker 4: I love Australia, but I don't want to embrace the culture,
- 8:11Speaker 4: the traditions, the food, the way in which Australians live,
- 8:16Speaker 4: I think is an oxymoron. And so the question becomes, Joe,
- 8:20Speaker 4: do you want a country where there are parts of
- 8:22Speaker 4: your own country where you feel like a stranger in
- 8:24Speaker 4: your own country?
- 8:25Speaker 1: And I think most Australia.
- 8:27Speaker 5: I feel like that. Well, I don't feel like do
- 8:29Speaker 5: you feel like a stranger when you go to a
- 8:30Speaker 5: chinatown in any major capital cities? Should we have no chinatown?
- 8:34Speaker 4: There are certain suburbs where you would go and it
- 8:36Speaker 4: doesn't look like Australia. It looks like China, it looks
- 8:38Speaker 4: like India, it looks like the Middle East. And I
- 8:40Speaker 4: think that's not to disparage any of those places. It's
- 8:43Speaker 4: simply to say, do we want our country to have
- 8:47Speaker 4: entire places like that where it's more like a foreign country.
- 8:51Speaker 5: Then now I don't have to go to any of
- 8:52Speaker 5: those places. This is what I don't understand. Like, no
- 8:53Speaker 5: one's saying you have to go there. This is obviously
- 8:56Speaker 5: what that community likes. It's how they get along, it's
- 8:58Speaker 5: where they've got their friends or family.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Why are they in Australia if they like the culture
- 9:02Speaker 4: they came from so much that they want to replicate
- 9:04Speaker 4: it here.
- 9:04Speaker 1: We're not disparaging, We're just saying I think.
- 9:06Speaker 5: They probably want to keep the good bits and get
- 9:08Speaker 5: rid of the bad bits, like anyone else does. It's like,
- 9:10Speaker 5: you know, you know, why aren't you exactly like your parents?
- 9:13Speaker 5: Because you take the best stuff and you leave behind
- 9:16Speaker 5: the stuff.
- 9:16Speaker 3: I just think that you are lucky enough to be
- 9:18Speaker 3: welcomed with open arms in this country, and you.
- 9:22Speaker 5: Can love a country as part of that culture.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Being respectful of our values, respectful of our culture, but
- 9:28Speaker 3: most importantly, you want to be a part of it.
- 9:31Speaker 3: Otherwise why bother coming here?
- 9:33Speaker 5: You can be a part of it without assimilating. I think,
- 9:36Speaker 5: to be honest, I don't think we're really or you're
- 9:39Speaker 5: really thinking about what the word assimilation means. You can
- 9:41Speaker 5: be totally integrated. You can love the country, you can
- 9:43Speaker 5: love Australia, but you can still hold on to you know,
- 9:46Speaker 5: your history, your culture, your values, your religion, and you
- 9:51Speaker 5: don't have to be exactly and also assimilate to what
- 9:54Speaker 5: exactly the same as what. There's no such thing as
- 9:56Speaker 5: the quintessential completely normal statistical Australian to.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Talking about statistical Australians.
- 10:02Speaker 3: We're just talking about more from a cultural perspective.
- 10:05Speaker 4: It's just really quickly, what do you think of the
- 10:07Speaker 4: Is it the UK where they're using an app to
- 10:09Speaker 4: do English tests for potential?
- 10:12Speaker 1: Is that smarter or is that just open to abuse?
- 10:15Speaker 2: I think it's open to abuse. Don't forget.
- 10:16Speaker 3: I mean we cover the story on the Late Debate
- 10:19Speaker 3: that people are pretending to be gay if they come
- 10:20Speaker 3: from countries where homosexuality is banned, so they're already wraughting
- 10:24Speaker 3: the system as it is. You put that, you put
- 10:26Speaker 3: these people on a digital app, they're going.
- 10:29Speaker 2: To cheat to try and get their free pass into
- 10:31Speaker 2: the country.
- 10:31Speaker 5: Know, they're just assimilating to the gay lifestyle I just
- 10:34Speaker 5: covered upon arriving.
- 10:35Speaker 4: You know what I thought when I read that story though,
- 10:37Speaker 4: is how different the world is now that people fleeing persecution,
- 10:41Speaker 4: people fleeing poverty, but they've all got mobile phones and
- 10:44Speaker 4: an app to do the English test.
- 10:46Speaker 1: It's an incredible time to be alive.
- 10:48Speaker 5: You know what. I think we need to make sure
- 10:50Speaker 5: that people are assimilating to the national anthem, yes, because
- 10:54Speaker 5: absolutely nobody knows what it is. And news dot com,
- 10:57Speaker 5: my old alma matera part of the family here, has
- 11:00Speaker 5: done this massive survey. They do this massive thing when
- 11:02Speaker 5: they ask basically a gazillion billion people a gazillion billion questions.
- 11:07Speaker 5: That's a scientific and technical term. So if you get lost,
- 11:09Speaker 5: it's not my fault about all sorts of stuff. One
- 11:12Speaker 5: of the questions they asked is do you sing the
- 11:16Speaker 5: Australian national anthem when it plays? And fewer than half
- 11:21Speaker 5: the people who responded said yes always. Just forty seven
- 11:24Speaker 5: percent said always, about a third thirty two point seven
- 11:28Speaker 5: said kind of, I sort of mouthed the words, ten
- 11:31Speaker 5: point five percent said very rarely, and nine point nine
- 11:34Speaker 5: percent said no never, And that obviously correlates roughly to
- 11:37Speaker 5: the Green vote in Australia. But I think this is
- 11:44Speaker 5: you know, this, I think is something that we really
- 11:45Speaker 5: need to drill down on. How is it that fewer
- 11:48Speaker 5: than half the people who are asked actually say they
- 11:51Speaker 5: always sing the national anthem? Would you not just instinctively,
- 11:54Speaker 5: if it was playing, get up and start saying Or
- 11:58Speaker 5: is it because we don't know the words?
- 12:01Speaker 4: Or is it because only forty seven percent of people
- 12:03Speaker 4: in this country can actually sing in tune?
- 12:06Speaker 1: Very good side.
- 12:08Speaker 4: Out of respect for the country, I'm just going to
- 12:10Speaker 4: be silent to not inflict a tuneless The rest of
- 12:15Speaker 4: that is integration.
- 12:18Speaker 5: We know that, we know that the second, the all
- 12:21Speaker 5: elusive second verse of the Australia National Anthem, has often
- 12:26Speaker 5: eluded many people. Does everybody here on the panel, Noah,
- 12:30Speaker 5: they do not look.
- 12:31Speaker 3: I don't know, but I feel like if it started
- 12:33Speaker 3: playing having when I was in primary school, we learned,
- 12:41Speaker 3: we were always told and we used to sing it
- 12:43Speaker 3: at the school assembly once a week and we would
- 12:45Speaker 3: stand up with pride and we would sing the national anthem.
- 12:48Speaker 3: And I have been to a few events in the
- 12:49Speaker 3: last few weeks alone where the national anthem has played
- 12:52Speaker 3: and everybody has stood up and they have sung the national.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Anthem the second verse of it, not the second verse,
- 12:58Speaker 2: but it was a beautiful moment. But I don't know.
- 13:00Speaker 2: I just I feel like, is it a reflection? I mean,
- 13:03Speaker 2: news dot Com.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Dot Au obviously has a lot a younger audience in general,
- 13:06Speaker 3: and I just sort of wonder if it is an
- 13:08Speaker 3: overall reflection of the younger generation who it's a very
- 13:13Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's just this, no, don't be
- 13:14Speaker 3: proud of you of your country, don't take pride in
- 13:18Speaker 3: your country. It's the progressive left trying to raise our
- 13:21Speaker 3: values over time.
- 13:23Speaker 2: And we can't be surprime when elbow stands in front
- 13:25Speaker 2: of three flags for goodness.
- 13:26Speaker 4: Sake, I honestly think this has got more to do
- 13:29Speaker 4: with people being self conscious than people not having regard
- 13:33Speaker 4: for the country, Because where do you sing in public?
- 13:35Speaker 4: If you don't go to church, Where does community singing
- 13:38Speaker 4: happen these days?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Karaoke bar I suppose pretty.
- 13:42Speaker 5: Tank to go home in the back of a van.
- 13:48Speaker 4: So I think a lot of people, like I've been
- 13:50Speaker 4: at the football of cricket and you really don't want
- 13:53Speaker 4: to belt out, you know, in songs standing next to
- 13:57Speaker 4: a couple of strangers, particularly if you don't feel like you.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Know, you're justin Timberlake.
- 14:02Speaker 4: And the other thing about Survey is when they ask
- 14:04Speaker 4: people do you know the words to the national anthem?
- 14:07Speaker 4: The reporter said, people got really embarrassed and almost ashamed
- 14:10Speaker 4: and didn't want.
- 14:11Speaker 5: To talk about and they should know the words? Do
- 14:13Speaker 5: I know what the words are? Beneath our radiance? So
- 14:18Speaker 5: than cross will toil with hearts and hands to make
- 14:22Speaker 5: this common.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Well of us now throughout the land for those across you.
- 14:29Speaker 5: See plans to share plans and then something something something
- 14:33Speaker 5: advanced astral affairs.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Yeah with one.
- 14:38Speaker 1: What about this?
- 14:39Speaker 4: What if you did a survey and ask people, you know,
- 14:41Speaker 4: do you know the words of national anthem?
- 14:43Speaker 1: Do you reckon?
- 14:43Speaker 4: There'd be more or less than know the words to
- 14:45Speaker 4: welcome the country, actually, because the country happens more often
- 14:50Speaker 4: now than the national countrym you going.
- 14:54Speaker 3: To you go to the a FL lot, You go
- 14:56Speaker 3: the a f L lot, James, do they do they
- 14:58Speaker 3: do they sing the national anthem when you start the game?
- 15:00Speaker 6: Uh?
- 15:01Speaker 1: Not really, only at like finals games.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Big games.
- 15:04Speaker 3: Okay, but you're right, I feel like we would all
- 15:06Speaker 3: know the welcome to country.
- 15:07Speaker 5: There's no words to welcome to transport menol that's acknowledgment
- 15:13Speaker 5: of country.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, I see I got that wrong.
- 15:16Speaker 5: Acknowledge like there's not really any formal words to that either.
- 15:20Speaker 5: So that's just basically, you just I'd like to acknowledge
- 15:22Speaker 5: the land that we met, and then you say whatever
- 15:24Speaker 5: the names.
- 15:25Speaker 4: I think when this comes back to you know, if
- 15:27Speaker 4: you go back far enough, I think school kids used
- 15:29Speaker 4: to have assemblies more than once a week, or even
- 15:31Speaker 4: in a classroom. They would sing the national anthem, and
- 15:33Speaker 4: these things are learned by rote.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Absolutely these stay.
- 15:37Speaker 5: It's it's not that I can promise you they're not
- 15:40Speaker 5: doing that anymore.
- 15:41Speaker 2: No, exactly, that's right.
- 15:43Speaker 5: School, my primary school assembly, I think we had the
- 15:45Speaker 5: flag and Flantham. I think that's where I learned the
- 15:48Speaker 5: second verse.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I can tell you when I was we never had
- 15:50Speaker 2: three flags.
- 15:51Speaker 3: When I was at school, there was there was only
- 15:53Speaker 3: the Australian flag and the Australian flag. Only suddenly we've
- 15:55Speaker 3: invented every flag. Every flag's got to stand behind us.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Now, look, let's move before.
- 16:03Speaker 5: Joseph.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Joe's having the time of his life.
- 16:06Speaker 5: They often give that. There's also a really racist fifth
- 16:09Speaker 5: verse that they got rid of.
- 16:10Speaker 2: So that make you the most patriotic person on Saturday?
- 16:13Speaker 2: Similar I was going to say, are you the most
- 16:16Speaker 2: assimilated out of all of us? Tonight? There you go.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Now, look let's move on, because imagine moving into your
- 16:21Speaker 3: brand new home only to find out that nothing in
- 16:24Speaker 3: the kitchen works and the culprit is actually the renewables
- 16:26Speaker 3: only experiment.
- 16:28Speaker 2: This is Marie Slacko.
- 16:30Speaker 3: She moved into her Northcote home in Melbourne two years ago.
- 16:33Speaker 2: She was attracted to the property because it had rooftop.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Solar panels and was part of a transition from gas
- 16:39Speaker 3: into electricity. Now she's one of the many homes on
- 16:42Speaker 3: the street that have started to make this conversion. Well,
- 16:45Speaker 3: she soon discovered the absolute disasters associated with it, she said.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Miss Lacko noticed she could only use one hot plate
- 16:52Speaker 3: at a time on her induction cook top. Then she
- 16:56Speaker 3: found the microwave would not heat food at dinner time,
- 16:58Speaker 3: but would burn everything at other times. This one she
- 17:02Speaker 3: discovered her split system would not hate the house.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Now.
- 17:07Speaker 3: After discovering these issues from the houses power supply, she
- 17:11Speaker 3: called the network operator by the name of City Power
- 17:14Speaker 3: and found that there was an issue with something called
- 17:16Speaker 3: the undervoltage. So because so many homes on the street
- 17:19Speaker 3: were transitioning from gas to electricity, the infrastructure basically could
- 17:23Speaker 3: not push through enough electricity to homes to run appliances
- 17:27Speaker 3: reliably during peak times, the entire street was impacted. Induction
- 17:32Speaker 3: cooktops were not working, ev charges were disconnecting, leaving cars
- 17:36Speaker 3: without battery. Heaters were struggling to push out hot air.
- 17:40Speaker 3: But you know, we've got to say, the only person
- 17:41Speaker 3: who could really sum this up properly, would you believe,
- 17:44Speaker 3: is Donald Trump?
- 17:46Speaker 5: No energy.
- 17:49Speaker 7: When the wind stops blowing, that's the end of your
- 17:52Speaker 7: electric Let's hurry, darling, Darling, is the wind blowing today?
- 17:57Speaker 7: I'd like to watch television, Darling.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Well, he's not wrong. This is extraordinary.
- 18:03Speaker 3: James City Power said it had received about one thousand
- 18:06Speaker 3: voltage complaints in the past twelve months, an estimate that
- 18:10Speaker 3: for every complaint there were three hundred and twenty.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Additional customers per complaint.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Is this not another example of how literally this renewables
- 18:20Speaker 3: only role out is an experiment. An experiment it is,
- 18:23Speaker 3: and this is the disaster.
- 18:25Speaker 4: So if you want to understand just how annoying this
- 18:27Speaker 4: would be, have you ever been in a house with
- 18:29Speaker 4: you know, two three bathrooms and you're trying to have
- 18:31Speaker 4: a hot showers perfect until someone else gets in the
- 18:35Speaker 4: other shower and then all of a sudden you've got
- 18:37Speaker 4: lukewarm water. It doesn't matter what you do, you can't
- 18:39Speaker 4: get your hot shower back. Well this is that, but
- 18:42Speaker 4: with electricity. And the thing that really agitated me about
- 18:46Speaker 4: this story is a spokesperson from the Energy Policy Development Center,
- 18:50Speaker 4: which is a government funded organization dealing with renewables, et cetera, said,
- 18:54Speaker 4: it's not yet a major cause for concern.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Well, they reckon.
- 18:58Speaker 4: They've potentially got over three hundred thousand complaints in the
- 19:01Speaker 4: last couple months, and they're saying it's not yet a
- 19:04Speaker 4: major concerned which pretty much demonstrates the way we've been treated,
- 19:07Speaker 4: doesn't it.
- 19:08Speaker 1: With this whole renewables thing.
- 19:09Speaker 4: A spokesperson from Deacon University Center for Smart Power and
- 19:13Speaker 4: Energy Research said, the ANTWA is smarter demand management.
- 19:18Speaker 5: Ah right, using electricity, it's not there.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Well the great.
- 19:24Speaker 4: You know, in peak hours, so they need it. What
- 19:26Speaker 4: does demand management mean? Does that mean they'll tell you
- 19:29Speaker 4: when you can use the microwave, when you can put
- 19:31Speaker 4: your heating on.
- 19:32Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. It means you know, have your shower
- 19:34Speaker 5: at two o'clock in the afternoon. Right. This is anyone
- 19:41Speaker 5: who's watching this in Melbourne or quite a few other
- 19:43Speaker 5: people might know that the real, the real, real, real
- 19:46Speaker 5: message of this story is this is what you get
- 19:49Speaker 5: for living in Northcote because Northcote is the is like
- 19:53Speaker 5: the peak woke Melbourne suburb. And I know that because
- 19:56Speaker 5: my best mate lives there, and like it is just
- 19:59Speaker 5: so it is. If an entire suburb could be a
- 20:03Speaker 5: giant collective virtue signal, that signal would be north It
- 20:07Speaker 5: would be like the bat signal with just a giant end.
- 20:10Speaker 5: And so I think it's just amazing that there's this,
- 20:13Speaker 5: Like like as soon as I as soon as I
- 20:15Speaker 5: actually saw there was this one particular street where so
- 20:17Speaker 5: many people were so keen to transition to green energy,
- 20:21Speaker 5: to prove how right on they were, I thought, surely
- 20:23Speaker 5: it's not. Surely it's not.
- 20:25Speaker 2: And it's like, ye, yeah it is.
- 20:27Speaker 5: It's not. I mean it could almost be a street,
- 20:30Speaker 5: my mates. It's just quintessentially. So this is what you
- 20:33Speaker 5: get for trying to be smug. This is what you
- 20:36Speaker 5: get try to show the world because I can guarantee
- 20:39Speaker 5: you telling everybody about it. You know, It's like the
- 20:42Speaker 5: old question, how do you know if someone's a vegan?
- 20:44Speaker 5: They'll tell you, Yeah, they'll tell you, But how do
- 20:46Speaker 5: you know if someone's got I mean, it's.
- 20:48Speaker 3: How annoying would it be? You know you're trying to cook.
- 20:51Speaker 3: You've already got one stove. One of your stoves top
- 20:53Speaker 3: is working.
- 20:54Speaker 2: You're in that.
- 20:54Speaker 3: You put your food in the microwave, it's not reheating,
- 20:58Speaker 3: and then it sometimes.
- 20:59Speaker 2: It just burns the serve some lights. You honestly cannot.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Make this stuff up with this renewables right now. Look,
- 21:05Speaker 3: speaking of renewables, do you remember when Chris Bowen was
- 21:08Speaker 3: absolutely desperate for us to host the COP thirty one
- 21:12Speaker 3: summit in Adelaide. You know how they wanted to charge
- 21:14Speaker 3: taxpayers about three hundred million dollars to fly all these
- 21:17Speaker 3: elites over in their jet engines to talk about I
- 21:20Speaker 3: don't know, maybe reducing fuel from jet engines extraordinary. Well, look,
- 21:24Speaker 3: thank goodness, Turkey won the bid.
- 21:27Speaker 2: For more reasons than one. Have a look at this.
- 21:30Speaker 3: This is a feasibility study into the failed bid, in
- 21:33Speaker 3: notion that traveling delegates will expect a type of gift bag,
- 21:38Speaker 3: and warn that the use of carbon emitting cruise ships
- 21:40Speaker 3: may need to be managed politically. The report warned the
- 21:43Speaker 3: government about using stationary cruise ships for accommodation, noting that
- 21:47Speaker 3: floating hotels or floating of flotels were used back in
- 21:51Speaker 3: Glasgow to power most cruise ships even when stationary, they said,
- 21:55Speaker 3: requires the use of petrol or diesel.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Not good, but here was the best part. Under a
- 22:01Speaker 3: subheader titled other Considerations, the report raised the issue about
- 22:05Speaker 3: providing gifts for delegates and this is what it says.
- 22:08Speaker 3: It was noted that delegates will expect a type of
- 22:11Speaker 3: gift bag that includes the number of items relevant to
- 22:14Speaker 3: the host country and city. The COP twenty six event
- 22:17Speaker 3: also included a free travel card within this bag that
- 22:20Speaker 3: allowed delegates and attendees to travel within the city center
- 22:23Speaker 3: free of charge.
- 22:25Speaker 2: It also said that.
- 22:26Speaker 3: A number of countries and accommodations would have wanted to
- 22:29Speaker 3: have free accommodation. Well, thank goodness this did not go
- 22:32Speaker 3: ahead because on top of that three hundred million dollars,
- 22:35Speaker 3: this would have been an additional demon to the taxpayer.
- 22:38Speaker 2: And for what purpose?
- 22:39Speaker 3: So they can have free accommodation to the city, get
- 22:42Speaker 3: a gift bag to try and solve a problem that
- 22:44Speaker 3: clearly nobody has any answers to, and they get a
- 22:47Speaker 3: pat on the back at the end of the day
- 22:49Speaker 3: while they sit there at this conference and sing Kumbaya.
- 22:51Speaker 4: Got one word for you, Denika junket.
- 22:55Speaker 2: All I say is.
- 22:55Speaker 4: It's a massive junket and we're made to feel guilty
- 22:58Speaker 4: because you know, i'd refer to driver internal combustion engine vehicle. Meanwhile,
- 23:03Speaker 4: these people who are supposedly saving the world arrive and
- 23:08Speaker 4: hang on a second, I've arrived in my free hotel room.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Where's my gift bag? And then they shuffle through I
- 23:14Speaker 4: presume the gift bag to see whether or not the
- 23:16Speaker 4: gifts are adequate. And you know, befitting someone as important
- 23:20Speaker 4: as one who's here to save the world or an
- 23:22Speaker 4: absolute rought.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Adelaide dodged a bullet. Not only the.
- 23:26Speaker 4: Expense, but imagine having those kind of people in your
- 23:30Speaker 4: city who expected a role.
- 23:33Speaker 5: It's like we've got a smugness overloads, sir. I don't
- 23:35Speaker 5: know what to do. There a pressure validly could release. Yeah,
- 23:39Speaker 5: I got to say, these sorts of love ins I
- 23:42Speaker 5: don't think do the cause very much good for the
- 23:45Speaker 5: average working schmo who's just trying to pay their power bills.
- 23:49Speaker 5: That it's the gift bag really gets me. I have
- 23:52Speaker 5: to say, even though like that would probably be the
- 23:55Speaker 5: thing that costs the least of.
- 23:56Speaker 1: All, just a small thing that says it's.
- 23:58Speaker 5: Just that idea, it's that sense of entire And also
- 24:00Speaker 5: like obviously producing anything has a cost, no doubt, everything
- 24:04Speaker 5: in the gift bag would be. It pains to say
- 24:06Speaker 5: how sustainably produced it was. But if you don't need
- 24:09Speaker 5: to produce anything at all, surely that is you know,
- 24:13Speaker 5: I mean, that is the ultimate kind of environmental saving
- 24:18Speaker 5: device where you just you just don't use anything. So
- 24:20Speaker 5: there's no chance of any fossil fuels being used in
- 24:23Speaker 5: the creation of the gift bag, because there is no
- 24:26Speaker 5: gift bag. But the fact that the delegates are clearly
- 24:29Speaker 5: so entitled and self important that they will expect one,
- 24:35Speaker 5: and clearly in the tone of the notes, you know,
- 24:38Speaker 5: if they don't get one, there'll be you know, there'll
- 24:40Speaker 5: be words.
- 24:40Speaker 3: And also that they expected free accommodation as well, and
- 24:43Speaker 3: then they did it. And then they was talking about
- 24:46Speaker 3: cruise ships being used as accommodation, but they didn't want
- 24:48Speaker 3: to go on cruise ships because of the fuel, so
- 24:51Speaker 3: then they wanted to float up flowtells. I mean, can
- 24:54Speaker 3: you imagine all these flowtels.
- 24:56Speaker 2: Out on the water for goodness that I mean, it's
- 24:58Speaker 2: just ridiculous. Seriously, yeah, I think that day went voted.
- 25:01Speaker 5: What is far less ridiculous and in fact perfectly sensible,
- 25:04Speaker 5: is a young entrepreneur by the name of Megan Markle
- 25:08Speaker 5: and her attempts to just make a living for a
- 25:11Speaker 5: young girl in this crazy world. And God love her,
- 25:14Speaker 5: I cannot believe. I have to say that some people
- 25:16Speaker 5: are still cynical about her efforts. But she has now
- 25:20Speaker 5: embarked on another another venture if you like, to try
- 25:25Speaker 5: to advance her her young family or in his young
- 25:30Speaker 5: family that she's got, and she's doing it by selling
- 25:33Speaker 5: little things that, you know, the little basics, the little
- 25:36Speaker 5: necessities that all of us need to get by. So
- 25:38Speaker 5: in a sense, she's providing a community service by providing
- 25:42Speaker 5: these essential items at an affordable price. And of course
- 25:45Speaker 5: I'm talking about her new candle collection where she is
- 25:50Speaker 5: selling two candles, the signature candle number six hundred and
- 25:54Speaker 5: four and the signature candle number five hundred and six,
- 25:59Speaker 5: which I think you'll agree everyone needs a signature candle
- 26:02Speaker 5: in their home. If not a couple, you know, why
- 26:05Speaker 5: not go for the set. And she's selling each of
- 26:07Speaker 5: them for just eighty nine dollars a piece, so in
- 26:11Speaker 5: a sense they kind of pay for themselves. I mean,
- 26:14Speaker 5: I mean it might sound like a bit upfront, but
- 26:17Speaker 5: when if you're watching the candle burn down, that's probably
- 26:20Speaker 5: only about a dollar a minute you work about per
- 26:22Speaker 5: flicker per flicker, that's actually quite cheap. And I'm sure
- 26:25Speaker 5: they'd be centered as well. And the other thing is,
- 26:28Speaker 5: I think it's really lovely, given how much her and
- 26:31Speaker 5: Harry complain about privacy, that she's actually basically named or
- 26:36Speaker 5: linked the candles to each of her children. So six
- 26:39Speaker 5: o four is linked to the birthday of Princess Lilibet
- 26:43Speaker 5: and five oh six is linked to the birthday of Archie,
- 26:46Speaker 5: and so perfectly I suppose, in keeping with her requests
- 26:53Speaker 5: and demands for privacy so that her kids, you know,
- 26:56Speaker 5: are not exposed to any scrutiny or any unlocome published
- 27:00Speaker 5: I think it's kind of I suppose comforting that when
- 27:04Speaker 5: she can use them to squeeze a buck out of
- 27:07Speaker 5: the average punter and just use the cute little things
- 27:10Speaker 5: to sort of just jam that extra bit of money
- 27:13Speaker 5: out of your back pocket, she's more than happy actually
- 27:16Speaker 5: will offer them up to the world like the parents
- 27:18Speaker 5: of Carthage.
- 27:19Speaker 4: The problem with these candles that these candles have burned
- 27:22Speaker 4: the British public already because that was well than it
- 27:26Speaker 4: took me. I just think of that that the candles,
- 27:28Speaker 4: I mean five oh six is actually called Danika Prince
- 27:31Speaker 4: Archie of Sussex's birth date candle. So the problem here
- 27:35Speaker 4: is not just that she's charging eighty nine bucks a candle,
- 27:39Speaker 4: although five oh six does smell like light floor ascent,
- 27:42Speaker 4: adding a sense of blessedness and openness to the homes
- 27:47Speaker 4: lovely refreshing, but she's using the royal title of her
- 27:51Speaker 4: children to make a buck. And isn't the point here
- 27:54Speaker 4: that they wanted nothing to do with the royal family
- 27:57Speaker 4: so they left, But now they're using the royal family
- 28:00Speaker 4: titles to cash.
- 28:02Speaker 5: It nothing to do with the royal family when they
- 28:04Speaker 5: had to do stuff for them for free. Right where
- 28:07Speaker 5: they can use the titles, and let's not forget the
- 28:10Speaker 5: kids to actually rip money out of people's bank accounts,
- 28:15Speaker 5: then that's only cool. And I think we should see
- 28:17Speaker 5: more of those good old fashioned values expressed in among
- 28:20Speaker 5: young people.
- 28:21Speaker 3: Think we've really got to hand it to missus grifter,
- 28:24Speaker 3: because her grifting knows no bounds. I mean, it's very
- 28:27Speaker 3: blatantly obvious what the grifter is doing here. Now you'll recall,
- 28:31Speaker 3: of course, Harry and Meghan just did this quasi world
- 28:34Speaker 3: tour of Sydney and Melbourne in the last couple of days,
- 28:37Speaker 3: and when she was at Bondai Beach meeting with the
- 28:39Speaker 3: victims of the Bondai massacre, she was draped head to
- 28:43Speaker 3: toe in a designer outfit.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Now you'll know by now that Meghan is an.
- 28:48Speaker 3: Investor in an ai app whereby she uploads all of
- 28:51Speaker 3: those outfits and so people can buy. Now there she
- 28:54Speaker 3: is in Bondai. But because there was so much controversy
- 28:59Speaker 3: at the fact controversy see it the fact that she
- 29:01Speaker 3: was basically using what should have been a very solemn
- 29:04Speaker 3: moment for her own personal gain, because she uploaded this
- 29:08Speaker 3: outfit on our screens right now, the striped shirt and
- 29:11Speaker 3: the white pants to the website. Because she's come under
- 29:13Speaker 3: so much controversy, well guess what the app has now
- 29:18Speaker 3: been forced to remove that outfit.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Would you believe it's right?
- 29:21Speaker 5: So she went, so, I mean, you can't make this
- 29:23Speaker 5: stuff up when you were such a shameless huckster, that
- 29:27Speaker 5: you're trying to monetize absolutely everything about your life, not
- 29:32Speaker 5: stuff you actually do or produce, not work, but just
- 29:36Speaker 5: being you. And so she's trying to squeeze every bit
- 29:39Speaker 5: of money out of every every element of her lifestyle,
- 29:43Speaker 5: which included and so every single outfit she wears immediately
- 29:48Speaker 5: goes up and says, hey, you can buy this for
- 29:49Speaker 5: this and that, and she's got a steak in that,
- 29:51Speaker 5: and she scrapes a bit off the top. And of
- 29:54Speaker 5: course it's a bit like it's a bit like Richard
- 29:57Speaker 5: Nixon in Watergate, where you forget it's on. Ah, I
- 30:00Speaker 5: forgot they were recording me. Let's say, she's going doing
- 30:03Speaker 5: all that stuff and of course pretending to be the incredible, virtuous,
- 30:07Speaker 5: you know.
- 30:07Speaker 2: As Princess Diana.
- 30:08Speaker 5: She says are but she's so, you know, I care
- 30:10Speaker 5: so much And this isn't about the money, this tour
- 30:12Speaker 5: that I'm charging three thousand bucks a pop for this
- 30:14Speaker 5: wellness retreat that I'm holding. It's just about me connecting
- 30:17Speaker 5: with the community. And I forgot it was on. So
- 30:20Speaker 5: as soon as she goes to meet the Bondi terror victims,
- 30:23Speaker 5: the families of those who were massacred fifteen minutes laid
- 30:27Speaker 5: out bang. The outfit she's wearing goes up on the website.
- 30:31Speaker 5: Say hey, if you'd like to get the outfit that
- 30:32Speaker 5: Megan was wearing meeting the terror victims, you can buy
- 30:35Speaker 5: it here for blah blah blah, like it is in
- 30:37Speaker 5: the children's.
- 30:38Speaker 3: Too, at the children's hospital when she was wearing that
- 30:40Speaker 3: twelve hundred dollars dress, and the women's homeless shelter as well.
- 30:44Speaker 4: So you know, on that, Danika, on the late debate,
- 30:46Speaker 4: I think Caroline Marcus was filling in for you, and
- 30:48Speaker 4: I defended Meghan Markle because the point was, how could
- 30:52Speaker 4: she wear a twelve hundred dollars dress to a women's shelter.
- 30:55Speaker 4: I'm like, twelve hundred dollars dress is what it cost
- 30:57Speaker 4: to buy address at Maya these days, I'm told. So
- 31:01Speaker 4: I defended her for that, But you can't defend literally
- 31:05Speaker 4: using the Bondai terror victims as props.
- 31:08Speaker 1: For your online shopping mall.
- 31:10Speaker 5: That's right, But also the amazing thing is that also
- 31:13Speaker 5: clearly not actually setting out to do that and planning
- 31:16Speaker 5: to do it, but being so outrageously narcissistic and greedy
- 31:20Speaker 5: that it just kind of accidentally. The algorithm just does
- 31:22Speaker 5: it for you because it thinks that's the kind of
- 31:24Speaker 5: person you are. It's just amazing anyway, glorious Another form
- 31:29Speaker 5: of candle that you can buy online if you don't
- 31:32Speaker 5: want to shell out eighty nine bucks for one that
- 31:35Speaker 5: tells you when Meghan Markles kids were born. Is this
- 31:39Speaker 5: new phenomenon. Our very good friend Yanna Hawking in the
- 31:42Speaker 5: Daily Mail has written this really interesting piece that basically
- 31:47Speaker 5: there is a new voice. I'll tell the way she
- 31:49Speaker 5: said it. She was seeing a friend of hers online
- 31:53Speaker 5: going to buy some scented candles, not Megan Markles, I believe,
- 31:57Speaker 5: I don't know the precise brand, and she's like, what
- 32:00Speaker 5: are you doing? Why are you buying scented candles? And
- 32:02Speaker 5: he says, oh, no, no, sorry, I'm not that would
- 32:04Speaker 5: be really embarrassing. I'm actually buying magic mushrooms. And so
- 32:08Speaker 5: there's this new and I think we've probably heard of
- 32:11Speaker 5: the Internet and the dark web being used to sell
- 32:15Speaker 5: drugs and all sorts of dodgy, evil stuff, but there's
- 32:19Speaker 5: apparently a I imagine there's probably quite a few of them,
- 32:23Speaker 5: but there's websites where you can actually just order the
- 32:26Speaker 5: stuff that's in magic mushrooms. It's called silo cybin. I
- 32:30Speaker 5: don't know how you pronounce them anyway, but the stuff
- 32:32Speaker 5: that makes you the hallucinogen that makes you go crazy.
- 32:35Speaker 5: And apparently this is the new thing that is sweeping
- 32:39Speaker 5: the nation. This is what Yanna says, is the new
- 32:42Speaker 5: posh drug that's easier, she says, to order than uber eats.
- 32:46Speaker 5: She says, all my middle class friends have ditch booze
- 32:49Speaker 5: and cocaine for it. They reckon that maybe half a
- 32:52Speaker 5: million are using hallucinogens like this every year. And the
- 32:56Speaker 5: funniest thing about the reason why I noticed it is
- 32:58Speaker 5: because someone a friend of mine who has quick drinking,
- 33:02Speaker 5: doesn't do the birds at all, was actually at a party.
- 33:05Speaker 5: I think it might have ever been in Northcote.
- 33:06Speaker 1: It's very unproud, God, of course it.
- 33:08Speaker 5: Is, but said that someone was there just.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Just handing out candles, candle candles.
- 33:14Speaker 5: That you then ate.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Well, do you know, do you know?
- 33:16Speaker 3: It's actually quite quite a worry, to be honest, because
- 33:19Speaker 3: I have even seen some social media influences online do
- 33:23Speaker 3: videos where they are now micro dosing mushrooms and they're
- 33:27Speaker 3: doing it to treat trauma. They say to treat depression
- 33:31Speaker 3: and anxiety. I mean, where does it end once you
- 33:33Speaker 3: start micro micro dosing mushrooms for goodness sake, and then
- 33:37Speaker 3: you know the next hard drug and we're talking about
- 33:39Speaker 3: a hallucinogenic here. I actually think this is quite concerning
- 33:43Speaker 3: that and it's also very unregulated.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Obviously it's illegal. I think it's disgusting personally.
- 33:48Speaker 1: This isn't like eighteen year olds. This is mislaid.
- 33:52Speaker 5: This has been like having a glass of wine and
- 33:54Speaker 5: a lot. They're having mushrooms.
- 33:56Speaker 4: They're having mushroud So does that mean their life is improved.
- 33:59Speaker 4: I'm not drinking alcohol anymore.
- 34:03Speaker 5: This is what they call California sober, so you don't
- 34:05Speaker 5: drink booze anymore, but you do other stuff and then
- 34:09Speaker 5: they wake up.
- 34:09Speaker 2: The next day and they don't have a hangover like that.
- 34:11Speaker 1: That type of thing.
- 34:12Speaker 5: That's I'm still doing all the legal drugs like a SAP.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Well, hush there you go.
- 34:18Speaker 3: Well, look, you may be able to prosecute people for drugs,
- 34:21Speaker 3: but can you prosecute people for this one.
- 34:24Speaker 2: This is a fascinating case.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Over in Florida, authorities there have launched a criminal investigation
- 34:28Speaker 3: into Open AI after they claimed that chat GPT helped
- 34:33Speaker 3: a man plan a deadly mass shooting at a university
- 34:35Speaker 3: last year.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Now, the attorney general there.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Has opened the probe after reviewing chats that accused gunman
- 34:40Speaker 3: Phoenix Igner had with one of the platform's bots in
- 34:43Speaker 3: the lead up to the event, in which two people
- 34:45Speaker 3: were killed and six students were also injured.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Now, for example, the.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Chat told this guy what type of gun to use,
- 34:52Speaker 3: the ammunition to purchase the firearm, which one would be
- 34:55Speaker 3: best for a close range shooting, and what part of
- 34:58Speaker 3: the campus would be most crowded at the TI The
- 35:00Speaker 3: attorney general said, my prosecutors have looked at this and
- 35:03Speaker 3: they've told me if it was a person on the
- 35:05Speaker 3: other end of the screen, where we'll be charging them
- 35:07Speaker 3: with murder.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Or how do you prosecute this.
- 35:09Speaker 3: I don't think it's got anything to do with chat GPT,
- 35:11Speaker 3: with open AI artificial intelligence.
- 35:14Speaker 2: It's got to do with the person behind the screen.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Clearly, this is a mentally deranged person who's gone on
- 35:18Speaker 3: there and has interpreted the data in this way. The
- 35:21Speaker 3: other issue I have is it is known though if
- 35:23Speaker 3: you use chat GPT, it's very biased towards what you
- 35:26Speaker 3: say so, it kind of encourages So if you say
- 35:28Speaker 3: I'm feeling upset, it'll push you and it will probe
- 35:32Speaker 3: you based on what you say. But again, it's not
- 35:34Speaker 3: up to them. It's about the person behind the screen.
- 35:36Speaker 3: So I'm curious to know how this gets prosecuted.
- 35:38Speaker 4: Points on this, I agree with you that if you
- 35:40Speaker 4: get to the point where you're in a romantic relationship
- 35:43Speaker 4: with chat GPT as some people have been, or you're
- 35:45Speaker 4: taking your life cues from it, you are insane. But
- 35:49Speaker 4: we do know that these programs prompt people that way
- 35:53Speaker 4: over a period of time. I think tech companies have
- 35:55Speaker 4: got to take responsibility for that. And I just don't
- 35:58Speaker 4: think tech companies can create these things. And then so,
- 36:01Speaker 4: but we're not responsible for any of the consequences.
- 36:04Speaker 1: They should be held response.
- 36:05Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you.
- 36:06Speaker 1: It's a murder, but culpable in something.
- 36:09Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean I haven't had to hear dead
- 36:12Speaker 5: and don't have any kind of guardrails around it. Yeah,
- 36:14Speaker 5: And then say, oh, it's not my fault, you know,
- 36:16Speaker 5: it's that person, that crazy person will take all the money,
- 36:19Speaker 5: don't do it with That's right, exactly. Well, charging people
- 36:22Speaker 5: for it and making millions off. Sure, we're going to
- 36:24Speaker 5: do it for guns love.
- 36:25Speaker 3: It is very, very very difficult to regulate. We're going
- 36:27Speaker 3: to take a quick break. Coming up, we'll look at
- 36:28Speaker 3: the day's front pages, including how the newspapers are covering
- 36:32Speaker 3: Labour's announcement that it is ready to finally slash the
- 36:34Speaker 3: National Disability Insurance Scheme.
- 36:36Speaker 2: That's next, Well, welcome back.
- 36:44Speaker 3: Let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages. We're going
- 36:47Speaker 3: to start with the Advertiser and how the pages are
- 36:50Speaker 3: covering the National Disability Insurance Scheme announcement the tires has
- 36:53Speaker 3: gone with National Debarcle Scheme one hundred and sixty thousand
- 36:57Speaker 3: to be thrown off eighty NDS. It's an em for crooks,
- 37:01Speaker 3: says Mark Butler. Over to the Canberra Times, they're saying
- 37:04Speaker 3: the fifteen billion dollar broom, Mark Butler announcing those sweeping changes.
- 37:10Speaker 3: Will take a look at the Australian newspaper. They're calling
- 37:14Speaker 3: it NDIS intervention. It says Anthony Albanesi has ordered the
- 37:19Speaker 3: biggest shakeup of Labour's fifty billion dollar a year disability
- 37:22Speaker 3: scheme in a high stakes bid to avoid debt and
- 37:25Speaker 3: deficit blowouts. In the budget by cutting one hundred and
- 37:27Speaker 3: sixty thousand NDS participants and slashing twelve billion in taxpayer
- 37:31Speaker 3: funded social social activities. The sweeping overhaul of the NDIS,
- 37:35Speaker 3: which was established by the Gillaid government twenty thirteen, will
- 37:38Speaker 3: seek to lower the current ten point three percent growth
- 37:40Speaker 3: rate to an ambitious two percent under new measures to
- 37:43Speaker 3: wreck to wrestle back control of the program.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Look, you know what it is about time.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Seriously, don't forget The National Disability Insurance Scheme was meant
- 37:53Speaker 3: to be and rightly so, for the most severely disabled,
- 37:56Speaker 3: and now there are over seven hundred thousand participants. Forty
- 38:00Speaker 3: percent of those have an autism diagnosis. I have to
- 38:03Speaker 3: say I welcome this announcement by Labor. I think finally
- 38:07Speaker 3: Mark Butler has seen sense. There have been successive governments
- 38:10Speaker 3: who have failed miserably to rain this behemoth in despite
- 38:15Speaker 3: the roughts, the disasters, the sex workers, I mean, the
- 38:19Speaker 3: list could possibly go on.
- 38:20Speaker 2: So I do applaud Labor in this sense for actually
- 38:23Speaker 2: doing it.
- 38:23Speaker 3: But the proof will be in the pudding. In my view,
- 38:26Speaker 3: Let's actually see if they can bring these numbers down
- 38:29Speaker 3: by one hundred and sixty thousand by twenty thirty, James.
- 38:32Speaker 2: But you know it's going to take a lot of work.
- 38:35Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's going to be all sorts of hell
- 38:37Speaker 4: break loose. When they're proposing to take one hundred and
- 38:40Speaker 4: sixty thousand people off the NDIS. The Greens are already
- 38:44Speaker 4: screaming bloody murder, saying that disabled people are being made
- 38:47Speaker 4: to pay for budget deficits. The question becomes, as you
- 38:51Speaker 4: said the Nika, whether the government have got the courage
- 38:54Speaker 4: to stay the course on this and to do the
- 38:56Speaker 4: right thing because it's got to be reformed. But gee,
- 38:58Speaker 4: they're going to cop some heat and it's hard to
- 39:00Speaker 4: feel sorry for them because when the coalition tried to
- 39:03Speaker 4: reform the NDIS, Labor played the old you don't care
- 39:06Speaker 4: about disabled people cards, so they're going to get a
- 39:09Speaker 4: taste of their own medicine. Having said that, I don't
- 39:11Speaker 4: want them to fail. I want them to carry through
- 39:14Speaker 4: and reform it because it desperately needs reform, Jake.
- 39:17Speaker 5: They've got to get it right. But like you say,
- 39:19Speaker 5: that's one hundred and sixty thousand angry families who will
- 39:22Speaker 5: be making life very uncomfortable. For Mark Butler. He was
- 39:25Speaker 5: already challenged on it by a reporter with a disability
- 39:30Speaker 5: who was worked for a specialist publication that covers these
- 39:34Speaker 5: sorts of things, and she was obviously not very happy.
- 39:38Speaker 5: And you see that, you see those optics, someone down
- 39:42Speaker 5: on the floor with the disability, big powerful man with
- 39:45Speaker 5: a suit on a podium, you saying no, sorry, you
- 39:47Speaker 5: don't get anything. However justifiable, it may be that is
- 39:52Speaker 5: never ever going to be a good look. And it
- 39:54Speaker 5: is interesting spoken to the labor a lot about this.
- 39:57Speaker 5: I'm very heavily invested in this, as I keep saying,
- 39:59Speaker 5: my my best mate is a quadriplegic. He has had
- 40:04Speaker 5: a hell of a time with the NDIS, strangely enough
- 40:07Speaker 5: giving him or with providers saying that he can have
- 40:10Speaker 5: all these things that he hasn't actually asked for and
- 40:13Speaker 5: doesn't actually need and doesn't want. And he's the sort
- 40:15Speaker 5: of person who will actually say no, I'm not getting
- 40:18Speaker 5: that just because I can, And yet they are not
- 40:22Speaker 5: giving him stuff that he actually really really needs. So
- 40:26Speaker 5: one of the things that he really really needs is
- 40:28Speaker 5: when you're a quadpleaged, you can't regulate your own body temperature,
- 40:32Speaker 5: so you need to make sure it means if it's
- 40:34Speaker 5: very cold, outside or very hot, you could easily die
- 40:37Speaker 5: because your body can't compensate for it or doesn't even
- 40:41Speaker 5: know if it's overheating or freezing. And so one of
- 40:43Speaker 5: the things that he had was just an automatic heating
- 40:47Speaker 5: and cooling system that he could operate himself in the
- 40:49Speaker 5: middle of the night if it got hot or got cold,
- 40:52Speaker 5: that he'd be able to do that. And that is
- 40:53Speaker 5: the sort of thing that is might look like for
- 40:57Speaker 5: a bean counter at the NDIS as a big upfront cost,
- 41:00Speaker 5: would in fact save heaps of money in the support
- 41:04Speaker 5: workers he now has to use to actually wake up
- 41:06Speaker 5: and go and do it. And so they've got to
- 41:08Speaker 5: be very careful that they're not actually get getting rid
- 41:11Speaker 5: of those important big ticket items that might actually look
- 41:14Speaker 5: expensive when they're trying to cut costs.
- 41:17Speaker 3: But this is why, as I said, it was designed
- 41:19Speaker 3: for the most civilly disabled, right, and that is the
- 41:22Speaker 3: way that it should have been from the beginning.
- 41:24Speaker 2: But it has blown out.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And when you've got forty percent of people with an
- 41:28Speaker 3: autism diagnosis on I mean, come on, everybody diagnosed these
- 41:32Speaker 3: days with an autism diagnosis, Like.
- 41:34Speaker 2: You know, we have to be realistic.
- 41:35Speaker 3: It's never been means tested, which is the other issue.
- 41:38Speaker 2: So look, proof will be in the pudding.
- 41:40Speaker 5: Well, I mean fine if it's autism, but it's got
- 41:42Speaker 5: to be debilitating.
- 41:44Speaker 2: I agree, totally agree with them exactly.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Also on the front page, PM talks to firms on
- 41:49Speaker 3: new refinery. The abbe Easy government has sounded out energy
- 41:52Speaker 3: companies over the development of a new oil refinery as
- 41:55Speaker 3: the Iran War exposes Australia's vulnerability. Labor discussed the prospect
- 41:59Speaker 3: of a new refine with energy operators earlier in April
- 42:03Speaker 3: over their appetite to invest at a potential facility. As
- 42:06Speaker 3: part of a response, well, blow me down.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
- 42:09Speaker 3: I mean, we've only obviously got two right now in
- 42:11Speaker 3: the country. One just went up in flames last week.
- 42:14Speaker 2: So is this a revelation?
- 42:16Speaker 5: It's another great policy, forward thinking policy for the Albanezy Labor.
- 42:21Speaker 2: What you're trying to say incredible.
- 42:24Speaker 3: Also fascinating story there. Medical regulator captured by powerful trans lobby.
- 42:28Speaker 3: Australia's peak Medical Regulator faces claims it has been hopelessly
- 42:32Speaker 3: compromised in a string of controversial decisions because it is
- 42:36Speaker 3: a signed up member of Australia's most powerful trans lobby
- 42:39Speaker 3: Group ACON, which promotes gender affirming medical treatment for children
- 42:42Speaker 3: and teenagers. Documents released under FOI reveal the Health Practitioner
- 42:47Speaker 3: Regulation Agency developed LGBTQ plus strategy based on adherence to
- 42:51Speaker 3: the gender ideology of akon extending the way it regulates
- 42:54Speaker 3: health practitioners.
- 42:56Speaker 5: There you go, ah, look, honestly, this idea that there's
- 42:59Speaker 5: some kind of you know, trans revolutions sweeping the nation,
- 43:02Speaker 5: or that you organizations or regulators have been captured by
- 43:07Speaker 5: gender ideology, it's absolutely ridiculous, Absolutely just craziness. I don't
- 43:11Speaker 5: know where you're getting it from anyway. Over the Daily
- 43:13Speaker 5: Telegraph now and we've got taking the Yes. As many
- 43:18Speaker 5: as half of the toilets in all new public buildings,
- 43:20Speaker 5: including stadiums, shopping malls and office blocks, could soon be
- 43:24Speaker 5: designated as quote gender neutral under a proposed new building
- 43:29Speaker 5: code that has been slammed as compromising safety for ideology. This,
- 43:33Speaker 5: of course, is an exclusive from our good friend James Morrow, Yes,
- 43:36Speaker 5: who was last night moaning on the couch here that
- 43:41Speaker 5: he didn't have a front page that he could point
- 43:43Speaker 5: to when we did the papers. Well, he's obviously gone
- 43:46Speaker 5: back to the office that I'll show them he's got
- 43:47Speaker 5: one now anyway, The Board of the National Construction Code
- 43:51Speaker 5: says the change is intended to prioritize female use while
- 43:55Speaker 5: serving all users. I'm not sure how it's prioritizing female
- 43:58Speaker 5: use if it's gender neutral instead.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Of listen, I am not going to go into a
- 44:03Speaker 3: bathroom that is gender neutral. Sorry, give me a break,
- 44:05Speaker 3: I mean, is this where we're really going into society? Well,
- 44:08Speaker 3: you know, sorry, you can't go to the female. No,
- 44:10Speaker 3: you can't go to the male.
- 44:11Speaker 2: You've got to share a toilet.
- 44:12Speaker 3: Please, Well they've got to be to have the urinols
- 44:14Speaker 3: on the side when a woman walks in, and then
- 44:15Speaker 3: come on.
- 44:16Speaker 1: This is just you're not on your own, Daneka.
- 44:18Speaker 4: This story has made the front page because the Australian
- 44:20Speaker 4: Christian Lobby are just about to start a massive campaign
- 44:24Speaker 4: to lobby state governments to not implement this. And as
- 44:28Speaker 4: part of that campaign they did a survey and they
- 44:30Speaker 4: found ninety percent of women do not want all gender toilets,
- 44:36Speaker 4: and in fact eighty eight when they include men and women,
- 44:39Speaker 4: it was eighty eight percent of Australians male and female
- 44:42Speaker 4: don't want this. So why state governments would go along
- 44:46Speaker 4: with this when overwhelmingly people think as you do, Danika,
- 44:49Speaker 4: they don't want it, particularly women. I just cannot believe
- 44:53Speaker 4: state governments would go ahead with it.
- 44:55Speaker 5: So I actually reckon it's good for the guys because
- 44:57Speaker 5: the toilets are much cleaner. Basically the further go from
- 45:00Speaker 5: male to female. Wow, the cleaner the toilets get. So
- 45:03Speaker 5: the male toilets absolutely filthy, and so for a woman
- 45:07Speaker 5: using a toilet that a man's been in is a
- 45:10Speaker 5: massive step down, whereas a man using a toilet a
- 45:13Speaker 5: woman's been in, it's actually, oh wow. You don't actually
- 45:15Speaker 5: have to just know this all over the floor then
- 45:18Speaker 5: just walk out.
- 45:18Speaker 1: It's incredible, very true, all right.
- 45:20Speaker 4: The Career Male front page shot claims it against Labour's
- 45:23Speaker 4: Industrial Minister at c fmy you inquiry Absolute disgrace reads.
- 45:28Speaker 1: The headline quite a clever one.
- 45:30Speaker 4: The Paloget Governments Industrial Relations Minister Grace Grace threatened to
- 45:34Speaker 4: tear up a billion dollar contract unless builders of the
- 45:37Speaker 4: to womba bypass did a deal with the CFM EU.
- 45:40Speaker 4: An inquiry has heard. Miss Grace has not commented on
- 45:44Speaker 4: this story, but it's understood she will deny the allegations.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Philly serious allegations.
- 45:49Speaker 3: So you've got to be unlucky when you've got Grace
- 45:51Speaker 3: in your name, when you're a minister.
- 45:52Speaker 2: It's so easy, isn't it. Absolute but so easy.
- 45:57Speaker 3: All your kids Grace, well, I mean Donald, she married
- 46:00Speaker 3: at McDonald.
- 46:01Speaker 5: That's it.
- 46:02Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Stay with us. We're going to take a
- 46:04Speaker 2: quick break. Coming up. A tourists got a welcome to
- 46:06Speaker 2: the outback when they dropped. Toilet dropped. That's next. Welcome back, Joe.
- 46:15Speaker 3: I think you're the best person to explain what the
- 46:17Speaker 3: Air Force cadets have been up to.
- 46:18Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a quick meeting about this and everyone
- 46:21Speaker 5: agreed that this was the story for me. Look, I
- 46:23Speaker 5: don't know if you guys are familiar with the Great
- 46:26Speaker 5: Nation of Finland. It's one of my personal favorites. They
- 46:28Speaker 5: fought the Soviets before World War Two and made absolute
- 46:32Speaker 5: mince meat of them. In fact, they killed so many
- 46:34Speaker 5: of the Red that Hitler thought that they'd be really
- 46:37Speaker 5: easy to defeat, and it lured them into a trap,
- 46:39Speaker 5: and therefore we won, and that's how it happened. Another
- 46:41Speaker 5: thing happening in Finland is the giant drawing of penises
- 46:45Speaker 5: in the sky because the Finnish Air Force has uncovered okay,
- 46:51Speaker 5: there we go, has uncovered its cadets who were meant
- 46:55Speaker 5: to be practicing turns, and this is ingenius. They should
- 46:59Speaker 5: be rewarded be practicing turns in their in their planes.
- 47:03Speaker 5: In fact, what they were doing was charting these elaborate
- 47:08Speaker 5: flight paths that they knew would trace the shape of
- 47:12Speaker 5: I think you can see what it's the shape of
- 47:16Speaker 5: on the flight path tracker that they're well presumably their
- 47:20Speaker 5: instructors were actually looking at. So it feels to me
- 47:23Speaker 5: they very much wanted to get caught.
- 47:25Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing. It's definitely extraordinary.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Why they're flying or.
- 47:29Speaker 5: You no, well, I mean no flying shapes flying these shapes.
- 47:32Speaker 5: They were flying in a giant.
- 47:34Speaker 2: They were having the time of their lives. Incredible, isn't
- 47:36Speaker 2: it now.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Look a tourist who was visiting Darwin from Canberra got a.
- 47:39Speaker 2: Big welcome to the outback.
- 47:41Speaker 3: She went to a drop toilet, of course, notorious if
- 47:44Speaker 3: you're if you're out that way from the toilet, quite
- 47:46Speaker 3: literally dropped, would you believe she dropped two meters into
- 47:51Speaker 3: a hole, this poor woman, and was there for two
- 47:53Speaker 3: hours before she was rescued by a good old trading
- 47:56Speaker 3: A solid trainee came to her rescue two hours there's can.
- 48:00Speaker 2: You imagine being stuck down there?
- 48:02Speaker 3: You just go there, go to the toilet and bang, unbelievable.
- 48:05Speaker 4: James, to fall in for a few seconds would be horrific, Yeah,
- 48:09Speaker 4: but to be in there for two hours nightmare, absolutely.
- 48:12Speaker 5: Hasn't he said. The camera woman said it was the
- 48:14Speaker 5: second worst place she's ever been in their whole life.
- 48:17Speaker 4: All Right, you ever asked someone like, you know, you
- 48:19Speaker 4: saw a car going real quick and you say, how
- 48:21Speaker 4: fast do you reckon?
- 48:22Speaker 1: It was going? Oh no, it was flying.
- 48:24Speaker 4: Well, this drunk driver in the UK was literally going
- 48:29Speaker 4: so fast he ended up flying two hundred and twenty
- 48:31Speaker 4: five kilometers an hour during a police chase. Now, before
- 48:34Speaker 4: you watch this, he did not die. He was well
- 48:37Speaker 4: enough to face court.
- 48:38Speaker 5: It's okay to laugh, and so he should have.
- 48:41Speaker 6: Basics four West Welf speed one fall zero Irish to speed.
- 49:01Speaker 4: Now for that little expedition, he got sixteen months imprisonment
- 49:05Speaker 4: and lost his license for three years and eight months.
- 49:09Speaker 1: I reckon He got off lucky after that.
- 49:11Speaker 5: Was personally sent by BOSSG in Hazard County.
- 49:14Speaker 3: That is that is frightening footage and luckily nobody else
- 49:18Speaker 3: around him was injured as well.
- 49:20Speaker 2: All Right, that's all we got time for James and Joe.
- 49:22Speaker 2: It's been an absolute pleasure. Thanks you doing it again again.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Thank you for your company. The Rita Patterhee Show is next.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Good night,