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Happy Friendsgiving! · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in, want kiss you. I am all
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  Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio Podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: everybody to the first ever live virtual podcast. And I
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  Speaker 1: am Scott Patterson and this is I Heart Radio and
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  Speaker 1: one eleven Productions bringing you a friends giving events. And
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  Speaker 1: we're all so happy and so pleased to have you
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  Speaker 1: join us and thank you so much. We also want
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  Speaker 1: to say a portion of the proceeds a You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go benefiting the St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital and Baby
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  Speaker 1: Too Baby, two causes that are in charities that are
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  Speaker 1: close to my heart. I've taken a bunch of tours
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  Speaker 1: through St. Jude's and other hospitals and to visit kids.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, there is nothing more
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  Speaker 1: rewarding and more satisfying and knowing that that you can
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  Speaker 1: provide a little tiny bit of comfort for a kid
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  Speaker 1: on a specific day. Um. And these are beautiful kids
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  Speaker 1: that need our help and beautiful families all pulling together
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  Speaker 1: for a great cause. So thank you very much forgetting
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  Speaker 1: your tickets and uh and joining in. Listen. We want
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  Speaker 1: to well, I'm gonna tease our guests here a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Jackson Douglas, who played Jackson Belleville in series
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven episodes. We've got Emily Kuroda Mrs Kim, We've
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  Speaker 1: got Sally Strutters obviously played Babette, and Grantly Phillips the
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  Speaker 1: Town Troubadour, and we are very, very very excited. I
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  Speaker 1: want to thank my team UH, led by Amy Sugarman,
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  Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis UH and there are others behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes. Tomorrow NPR, I'm gonna butcher her last name,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not even gonna attempt it. There's Eastern Eastern
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  Speaker 1: Allen Um, who is our attack on this and he
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  Speaker 1: does fantastic work. We are in cahoots now Eastern and
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  Speaker 1: I doing secret things behind everybody else's back to surprise
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  Speaker 1: us the rest of the team on the podcast. The
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  Speaker 1: following one is gonna be quite a reveal something that
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  Speaker 1: I have discovered in the show. One of those things
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  Speaker 1: that pops up every now and again. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the clown Fellow. But you'll have to download the
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  Speaker 1: next podcast series of podcast to find out what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a bombshell, I guarantee you that. Anyway. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you all for joining us and without further ado, and
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  Speaker 1: let me take these off because I gotta get ready
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  Speaker 1: to talk to one of my favorite people in the
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  Speaker 1: whole world. Mr. And I think he's living in Spain now,
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  Speaker 1: So let's welcome Jackson Douglas. Jackson, come on in. How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, guy? Doing good? How are you doing? I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing really good. Let me put my specs onto you
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  Speaker 1: are not? Should I take mine off so you can't
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  Speaker 1: see that I've got my got something else up on
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  Speaker 1: my computer that you could see in my glasses now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really but I'm good. That's crazy, And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in Spain anymore. Where are you? I'm in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back in Los Angeles, right. I got tired of
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  Speaker 1: paying for a house that I wasn't living in, so
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  Speaker 1: we decided to come back. We're only supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: gone for a year. We were always supposed to go
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  Speaker 1: for a year. And we got there and it was
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  Speaker 1: like a week into it and we're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: this is beautiful. I don't ever want to go back, right,
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  Speaker 1: And then the election happened, which kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: helped me to make my choice. But we didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to come back, so I don't know. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of a year. It takes you a year to get
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  Speaker 1: used to living somewhere else, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta find your store, you gotta find your coffee shop,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta find all that stuff, so you get used
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  Speaker 1: to it after a year. So we stayed for another year,
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  Speaker 1: and then we stayed for another year, and then another year,
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  Speaker 1: and then another year, and then COVID happened, and then
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  Speaker 1: so and then we decided, Okay, we got to get back.
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  Speaker 1: The kids are getting old enough that they really need
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  Speaker 1: to have some roots where, you know, not to move anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So it was time. So they're fluent. They they're fluent Spanish, yes,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't like to talk in Spanish because they're
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  Speaker 1: self conscious about it. You know. They're like, they will
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  Speaker 1: correct the hell out of me when I speak it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, and they know it. They can understand it,
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  Speaker 1: and if if forced they can they can speak. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I My son corrects me all the time. It's
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  Speaker 1: only something, but he's I call him the correct because
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  Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's up my asses every day about something.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's because they that's they finally have some power
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  Speaker 1: over you, right, you know, so I give them that.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm the one who tells you
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  Speaker 1: when to go to bed, but you can tell me
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  Speaker 1: when I'm saying the wrong word, when I'm swear ring
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  Speaker 1: incorrectly in Spanish. So let's get into um, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into the show. You did fifty seven episodes. What did
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  Speaker 1: you know about the role of Jackson when you got
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  Speaker 1: the part? I mean, did casting say anything to you,
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  Speaker 1: anything about having the same name as the characters things
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  Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think
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  Speaker 1: you know, I went when the pilot was shot. I
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  Speaker 1: was in Toronto and that's where I met Amy and
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  Speaker 1: Dan and um, and I think they were saying something
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  Speaker 1: about like, oh, you're funny. You should be on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And so they kind of put me in. And I
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  Speaker 1: think my name originally was supposed to be Crispin, but
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  Speaker 1: it was too close to Tristan, and so they said, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell this is? Called you Jackson? Why not?
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  Speaker 1: That's fine? It works. So you're so you yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: you were so you yeah that it happened, alright, So
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  Speaker 1: why not just call you Jackson Douglas. Why Jackson Bellville?
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  Speaker 1: I don't guess. I don't know. Maybe it's a legal thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, probe the minds of those two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and and what's funny is I think I think there's
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  Speaker 1: even an episode where I was Melville or the last
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  Speaker 1: name was Melville, and then it changed to Belleville. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot of controversy about that. I
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  Speaker 1: asked about that, and Dan just kind of blew me off.
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  Speaker 1: I don't stop asking about that every time I had
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  Speaker 1: to try to have a conversation with us, too. I
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  Speaker 1: wear a miner's homet with the nextra on the helmet.
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  Speaker 1: It's about right. Yeah. So it's funny that you ask me,
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  Speaker 1: is do you have any insight into any of that?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, uh, do we ever? Do we ever have
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  Speaker 1: any insight into the hy No? Accept it and move on.
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  Speaker 1: Learned not to ask questions, service to will and get
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  Speaker 1: that food. Go stand on your marks, say your words
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  Speaker 1: really fast, and be done. We want to go home.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the Kapper man. So tell me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: how would you describe in your own words? Uh? Not
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  Speaker 1: that you can use anybody else's get try all right?
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  Speaker 1: In Pierce bronss No, No, we can steal or or
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  Speaker 1: or or or James Bond, which, all right, I'll do
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  Speaker 1: me because I'm really bad at the voices. How would
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  Speaker 1: you describe Jackson in your own words or Arnold swag
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  Speaker 1: Schwartzenegger's words or yeah, I don't know, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was it was an interesting It was really an interesting
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  Speaker 1: role because I think it was just kind of a
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the best way that I can describe it,
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  Speaker 1: at least the way I feel about it. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a hyperbolized version of me. You know. It's funny how
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  Speaker 1: you would live life and they would all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden end up in the script. I got named the
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  Speaker 1: president of the Homos Association, and a month later later
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  Speaker 1: we were doing I was being elected the town selectman.
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  Speaker 1: You know, because I don't know, Amy just seemed to
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  Speaker 1: think that my life was hilarious and just needed to
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  Speaker 1: use that for something. So, you know, Umm, although there
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  Speaker 1: are there are some differences, like when I get angry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't act like Jackson does when he gets angry.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jackson's more of it. You can kind of
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  Speaker 1: laugh at his anger. My kids, well, well that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: Now my kids laugh at my anger too, so they
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  Speaker 1: don't take me seriously. Anymore and let me just start laughing,
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  Speaker 1: which really doesn't do much for my anger. Um. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean it was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun to play. I mean everybody, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it was so easy. I mean, the character it was
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  Speaker 1: just so much fun. And I got along with everybody
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  Speaker 1: so well that it just it really did become effortless.
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  Speaker 1: The hardest thing was just to use somebody else's words,
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  Speaker 1: you know, try to It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak
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  Speaker 1: that way, but I've got to try and force my
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  Speaker 1: mouth to, you know, say it a certain way. Or
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  Speaker 1: plus you get to, you know, work with Melissa McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: for god, Well, yeah, it didn't feel like right exactly
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  Speaker 1: because we've said on the show, on the podcast, we
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  Speaker 1: you know, we could I could see because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: It's the whole thesis of the podcast. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the talent on her from the very first moment you
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  Speaker 1: see her is so glaring and apparent and and just like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: did you see it too? You must have seen it, right.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I felt it, you know, and I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: personal connection with her that I think if I were
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  Speaker 1: to oh my god, I mean, now that you mentioned it,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked
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  Speaker 1: at it the way that you're you described it, I
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  Speaker 1: think I would have been really intimidated. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I would have been able to even close, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think, yeah, it was just but she's
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  Speaker 1: just so I mean, she's just so nice and warm
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  Speaker 1: and loving as a person that it's hard to be
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  Speaker 1: intimidated around it. You just kind of get in the
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  Speaker 1: role with it, you know, you just kind of she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even know how funny she is. Not. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: back that. I mean, she she did some things. We
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  Speaker 1: did an interview together for the Humorously Enough for ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, in the very beginning, so there we
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  Speaker 1: are seated together in our director's chairs and there's ESPN
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  Speaker 1: and there, you know, and and they asked us how
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  Speaker 1: we stay in shape? And you know, I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I run a little bit of oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: are we supposed to stay in shape? Walk up and
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  Speaker 1: down the stairs, that kind of thing. And she and
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  Speaker 1: then when they asked her, she immediately said, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: love the box, you know, And I thought she was kidding,
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  Speaker 1: and I let out a little bit of a life
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  Speaker 1: because just the way she inflects her work, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just naturally funny. Um. And so she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know she's so quick and and and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: phrasing is so just beautifully time that you have you
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  Speaker 1: can't help it, not law Can you remember your favorite
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  Speaker 1: scene that you filmed with her? Uh? Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: answer correctly, I'll send you fifty dollars. Oh you mean
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  Speaker 1: there's a correct answer. Well, of course, as a correct answer,
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  Speaker 1: and it has to be it's got my favorite scene.
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  Speaker 1: I would be the only one who would know the
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  Speaker 1: answer to that. I don't know. I mean, there were
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  Speaker 1: so many there was We had a lot of fun
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  Speaker 1: when we did the pre wedding um high jinks, you
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  Speaker 1: know where I was running around Balboa Park in a
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  Speaker 1: skirt a kilt. But um, you know, we we're doing
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  Speaker 1: photos and stuff like that. I think the I think
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  Speaker 1: the one that really sticks out in my mind is
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  Speaker 1: the is when we get when we decided to move
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  Speaker 1: in together or kind of get engaged. There's a picnic
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  Speaker 1: that we did and it was. It's like a when
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  Speaker 1: you watch it on TV. You see it's a bright
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  Speaker 1: sunny day and we're having this picnic in the park
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  Speaker 1: and it was two o'clock in the morning and pitch
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  Speaker 1: black outside, you know, and it was lit uh night
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  Speaker 1: for day and you wouldn't even know. And it was
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  Speaker 1: just so surreal and but it really added something to
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  Speaker 1: the scene because it kind of took your headspace out
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  Speaker 1: of you know, it became kind of oh, I'm too
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  Speaker 1: old in my my brain just drops words um not ethereal,
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  Speaker 1: but it's you know, it just kind of takes you
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  Speaker 1: out of yourself and out of the moment. And it
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  Speaker 1: felt felt very different and special. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh my so many Oh my god. I was so
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  Speaker 1: sweaty and tired at the end of the day. And
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  Speaker 1: I think and I think they had it after one,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I think Amy and Dan just felt
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  Speaker 1: that they just were laughing at my running and just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to torture me. But it was fun. It was
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  Speaker 1: fun torture. I remember that one that was good is
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  Speaker 1: that The correct answer is that being? Is that one?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it deep Fred Shoe Thanksgiving did not answer correctly,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't get by my own dinner to night,
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  Speaker 1: but I will send you bag of coffee. So okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's to look forward to, all right, I'll take the
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  Speaker 1: parting gift. So we're only a handful into of episodes
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  Speaker 1: into season two, and we're starting to see your romance
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  Speaker 1: with melissic Rono, SUPI grow. What type of direction did
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  Speaker 1: you receive when it came to you and Melissa in
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  Speaker 1: that regard? I think, Um, I don't think there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I don't think there was a lot of direction.
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  Speaker 1: There's one there's one scene that I'm that I'm so
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed about that I just even to this day, I cringe.
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  Speaker 1: And there's and it's when we have our first child
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  Speaker 1: and Jamie Babbott was directing, and um, and so we're
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital we've had the child, and I'm go
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  Speaker 1: up to her and I give her a big kiss
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  Speaker 1: or a big hug and a kiss. And she's like
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  Speaker 1: saying that, and she kept saying, you know, we'll give
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  Speaker 1: her a kiss, give her a kiss. But I've never
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  Speaker 1: done an on screen kiss before, and I know Melissa
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  Speaker 1: so well. It just felt so weird to have to
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  Speaker 1: fake this and I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I end up giving her a great big hug, and
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I failed as an actor that day,
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  Speaker 1: failed so hard. How it would have been a really tender,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a wonderful, wonderful moment, but the the person
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  Speaker 1: that is me, I just couldn't get over that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: over that. I don't know, it was really weird. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you took it in the direction that was unexpected and
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  Speaker 1: even more effective, more emotional in a way. Maybe, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'll take that to kind of save my
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  Speaker 1: salve my guilt. But um, yeah, but I so, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the only time that I really that we
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  Speaker 1: really received some kind of you know, a direction to
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  Speaker 1: do this or that. I mean a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: had I almost feel like a criminal, you know, getting
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  Speaker 1: paid to do the show because it was just so
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  Speaker 1: easy and natural that it just right, you know, right.
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  Speaker 1: So what was it like to come back almost ten
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  Speaker 1: years later for a year in the life. That was
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  Speaker 1: very odd? It was that was very odd. What did
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  Speaker 1: you think? I want to know what you thought about that?
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  Speaker 1: It's it was really odd. Yeah, I I didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like him at all anymore. I've gotten married, had a son. Um.
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  Speaker 1: It took me a bit, you know, to get Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had. Did you know I had two kids? And
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  Speaker 1: you know the I don't I can't remember if we
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  Speaker 1: were in Spain yet or not. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: But um, but I had the same kind of feeling
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  Speaker 1: coming back to l A when I came back from Spain,
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  Speaker 1: where everything feels very familiar, but it's not familiar, and
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  Speaker 1: it's that weird juxtaposition of I should feel differently because
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  Speaker 1: I know my surroundings, I know these people, I know
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But it's like I was in a coma
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  Speaker 1: for ten years and just woke up and just's like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: do I know you anymore? So okay, so we have
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  Speaker 1: a fan question for you, Jack. I see, we have
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  Speaker 1: a Julie who wants to know the picture of pajamas
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  Speaker 1: that he wore in the episode where those his real
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  Speaker 1: photos on the pajamas. It was my face, but I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a wrestler, so uh they put my face on.
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  Speaker 1: Funny enough, there was a a Dolly Grip named Cal.
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  Speaker 1: Remember Cal, His son was a wrestler, so they took
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  Speaker 1: his picture, put my youth, you know, my face from
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  Speaker 1: my youth on those and then put those on the pajamas. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so it's my face, but Cal's son's body. Oh my god. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So here's here's the good question, and you can redeem
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  Speaker 1: if you answer this correctly. Are you ready to be ready?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: What are you most thankful for? From Gilmore's being that
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  Speaker 1: it's friends giving and a thanksgiving sort of a podcast
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  Speaker 1: right now, A love to them? What am I most
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  Speaker 1: thankful for? And I think I'm thankful for the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to get to know so many wonderful people and just
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  Speaker 1: to you know, I'm really I feel so lucky and
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  Speaker 1: thankful and grateful for to to be able to do it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just to meet everybody. Everybody was
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  Speaker 1: so wonderful. We really were like a family. You know.
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  Speaker 1: There some of us that would fight with each other,
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  Speaker 1: as some of us that would you know, we get
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  Speaker 1: along great, just like any other family. And but you
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  Speaker 1: still felt loved and you could love other people. And
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  Speaker 1: so that that really was magical for me. Hang on,
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  Speaker 1: Getting New York is piping in. They're they're wondering if
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  Speaker 1: that's right or not. Oh wait a minute, hang on, Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Hang on a second. I've got
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  Speaker 1: the head of the whole thing here, buddy, we're good.
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  Speaker 1: Correct answer, correct answer, It's good. Okay, all right, that's
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  Speaker 1: about one door dash order and that about it. Your coupons, okay,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you're coupons. It's a gift certypicate. Okay, saying good. Thing
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: is money in the bank, buddy. Always. Great to see you, um,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and I guess we'll see you later. Yeah, in the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in the stick around and you stick around, buddy, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: great catching up with you and thanks for joining in. Uh,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: this was a lot of fun. I wish we had
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: ten times the amount of time to uh, you know
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just that, you know, fifteen minutes
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't cut it. Hi, Hi, are you are
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you on the area? Sure? Yeah, we're my god, we've
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: done forty episodes. No, I mean right now, are we
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: just you and I talking? Or is this part of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the podcast? No, we're live bad. We're going out to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the planet Earth. We are Earth Hill, one of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Julian's on the planet. And thank you gravity for keeping
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: me on the planet. That's I'm grateful for gravity too. Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Are you doing darling? Good? Happy holiday time. I just
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: got back from Maine. Where I did the musical Young Frankenstein.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I played shroud Bocher ive us my boyfriend. Man, you're
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: still your man. You're doing that theater stuff. That musical
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: theater stuff is so fun, isn't it. Uh? Yeah, it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: not for whimps. No no, no, no no no no.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Those are tough schedules, but they're fun, right, yes, they
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: are fun. Audiences are great. There's nothing like a live audience,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: nothing like it. So listen. The last time you're on
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the podcast, we had the pleasure of seeing what you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: had in your bag. Oh I'm just kind of wondering
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what isn't what is in there today? And do you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: switch it out for the holidays or you know, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: took all the fun stuff out of my bag because
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I was traveling in the people the t s A people.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: This is a message to all the people that work
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: for t s A around the country. You have made
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: my life a living hell. I know you think it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: fun to go through my suitcase and look through my
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: purse claiming that you've seen something on your scanner. You haven't,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but you've gotten word that I'm in line and now
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you're dicking around with me and this happens every time
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I fly, and I'm effing sick of it. And I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: want you all to go like lemmings to the sea
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and disappear. You make you make travel such an unhappy
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: day for me. Just stop it, stop it. I never
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have anything interesting, illegal or dangerous in my carry on
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: or my purse, So stop it. Oh you know the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: power that they get the drunk with the power, right,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I had all those things. I had the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: chicken in my person when you squeeze that she gives
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: birth to another chicken. I had the eyes that the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Google Google eyeglasses, and I had fake nose, and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: had the things to make children on the airplane stop
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: crying or gar them even worse. And I took it
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: all out of my purse because t s A. People
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: don't have a sense of humor. I know what he
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: does anywhere. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. So what's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: going on with you and your son? Oh he's just
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you know, in robotics camp, building SUVs and amazing us
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: with this mathematics and how six And he's so far
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: beyond me now, it's just like, okay, yeah, trying to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: ask me a math question, I'm not like, yeah, it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: good necks, it's it's he's great. Thanks for asking. Welcome
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in the seventies, I stret oh I did too. Where
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: did you run naked? Here? Were you? Hadn't? Field Memorial
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: High School? Four of us during an assembly. We ran
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: across the football field and then we ran on stage.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: We streaked across the stage and god, that was very brave.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's maybe foolish. Did you get in a big big
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: doo doo trouble? No, no, no trouble. You know it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: was a thing back then, if everybody was doing it. Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I street at the Playboy Club, Oh my goodness. No,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: in in Lake Geneva. It was the only way to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: top the playgirl bunnies because they're on these outfits with
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: everything pushed up without and there sexy. But you know
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: what's sexy or than an a middle aged lady running
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: naked down the hall with a red top hat on.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about one of our
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: favorite lines on the part. One of our favorite lines
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in the episodes are are from you from Babette. Do
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you remember having a Babette line that you particularly loved? Uh?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I can't quote it exactly, but I was trying to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: explain how my cats Cinnamon died, and it was pretty funny.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I remember that scene. And he fell off he thought
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he was asleep and then he fell off the couch
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and didn't move, and then you maybe kicked him and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he flew across this room the floor and he still
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: didn't That's what I knew he was. Yeah, that was
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that was hysterically funny. I remember that. I think I was.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I was running towards you. I was running towards Luke's anyway.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if you were the receiving end. But
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I had to run all the way across the little
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: park in the center of town where the gazebo is,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and run towards your restaurant, and when you are majorly endowed,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it was very painful to run. So I held my
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: breast the entire way while I was running, and Um,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Gamy Sherman Palladino said, leave it in, So there you go. Um.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Do you have moments even to this day where you think, oh,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that was very bad bet of me, like in your
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: real life? Any similarities? Well, in some ways I really
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: am bad, bet. Um. I've always dated taller guys and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm only five feet tall, and I'm highly energetic, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'm very nosy. You know, I sit down with somebody,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I get into their business. So I'm very very much
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like that bad Did you know that Ted Rooney who
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: played my husband on Gilmer Girls and I his father
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: was my math teacher in in high school? Yes, And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that he and I went to the same high school
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and grew up in the same town. Yes. But as
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: he pointed out the first day I met him, he's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: younger than I am, So I didn't know him in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: high school because he wasn't there yet. Right. Oh, yeah,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: we had We had him on the podcast he was driving.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: He did share that story. Yeah, he's a great guy.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And his dad, his dad, Ed Rooney, father of Ted Rooney,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was on the Johnny Carson Show one night because he
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: had Ted Rooney is one of like nine children, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so you know Ed Rooney was just a high school teacher.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you feed a family and nine
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: kids on that? So he fed them horse meat and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: hope that they didn't hope that they didn't know the difference.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It was cheaper than buying cow meat, and he was
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: somebody got word of it, and the Tonight Show flew
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: down and he was on the Tonight Show talking about
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: feeding his family horse meat with Johnny Carson. With Johnny Carson, Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: oh my god, are you gonna have Rose abdu on
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: on this one? Yeah? No, No, it's very funny. She's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: very funny. She's a very brilliant gal. I love her,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: she really is and her resume proves that point. And now,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: speaking of Ted Rooney, we had him on the podcast
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: what do you remember about the scenes inside your tiny
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: home and and what the difference between you and Ted
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: height getting the way of those scenes. Uh, it didn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: get in the way in real life, but it obviously
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: got the way in Babbet's marriage to him. Because when
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we were having the wake at our house for our cats,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Cinnamon and Laura, I was standing in the kitchen with
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: me with her legs spread apart so that she would
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: be shorter because she was helping me with the dishes
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and the counters were so low, and she she asked,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know, if Marie had any trouble moving into this
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: house with me, and I said, well, yeah, he he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: hits his head sometime on the dividus between the rooms,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: but he never had a really bad concussions, Are you okay? Yeah? Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: She had the house built for her own height, probably
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: never thinking she'd get married, and then she met maur
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: right right right. Let me ask you this, if there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: was ever another reboot of Gilmore Girls and you couldn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: do it for some reason because you were in a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: player or another movie and the schedule didn't work, God,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: who would you want to play? But that, oh, oh well,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: if we could dig her up, Ruth Gordon, because that's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: who my my, my performances, you know, giving honor to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: because she was the best character actress that ever lived.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Now I see that now because we just reviewed Rosemary's Baby,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: because it was mentioned in the in in the first episode,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and you're right, yeah. I loved her. And then I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: got to play her daughter in law in the film
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: The Great Houdini's Paul Michael Klaser played Harry Houdini and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I played best his wife, and Ruth Gordon played his mother,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and we made friends, and we stayed friends until she
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: passed away. As a matter of fact, when I went
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to New York to do my first Broadway show, she
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and her husband, Garson Kanan, let me stay in their
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: brownstone on the East side of New York City, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: my next door neighbors were Katherine Hepburn and Stephen Sondheim.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And on the morning of my birthday, there was an
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: on the front door. On the door, and then you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the first level was the kitchen in the dining room,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and then you went up a set of stairs, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: then it was a living room, another set of stairs,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: bedrooms and bathrooms, and another set of stairs, bedrooms and bathrooms.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And my best friend Pamela was upstairs with my daughter,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: who was turning too and we were trying to toilet
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: trainer on little party chair, and so I screamed, Pamela,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm in my pajama. Someone's knocking on the door. Can
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you come down and answer? And she said, I've got
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Samantha on the party chair. I can't come down. So
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I said, all right, I answered the door and there's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: cats and Hepperd standing at my front door. I mean,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I think my mouth literally hit the floor. And I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: looked at her. I said, oh, miss Happer, hello, I'm sorry,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm in my pajama. And she says, well, hello. Sadly,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: she says, Norah told me it was your birthday. Happy birthday. Dear,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I painted you a birthday, can't so you let take
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it from me? And sundaytime this week, why don't you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: come next door to my place. I'll show you all around.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you about Spencer Tracy, and I've got
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: my closets full of all my costumes all about wonderful time.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Can you make coffee at tea? This isn't happening on
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: my birthday? Oh my god, Oh my god. But I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was staying in recording this Brownstone. My ears are so tiny,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: their childlike my ears, that these little pods won't stay
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: in because my ear can't accept them. That's okay, I'm
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not doing much talking because you're being
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: so great and funny. So if you here's here's a question.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: If you could jump back in time, um to filming
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: any episode or season, what would it be? Oh, Gilmore Gross,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls, Gilmore Girls,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Um Ohm, When did I have the most fun? Probably
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: when we did was it called a year in the life?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: What was it? But we came back we all haven't
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: seen each other in several years, and then we did
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: those four ninety minute movies and I felt so lucky. Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I felt like I hadn't been invited to my high
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: school reunion. And the reunion went on for you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a month. I was like a kid at Christmas, dancing
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose Abdew said to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: me one day, Oh, here comes one of their where
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: their trolleys? What do you call those caravan things where
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they drive people around to take a tour of the studio.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: That the tram right, And she says, let's just stand
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: here and give him a thrill. But we were on
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: our way to the steppy uppy truck where you could
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: get snacks, and we were admonishing one another about how
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: we didn't need snacks but we were getting them anyway.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And then we stopped and kind of post so to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: give the group on the Trauma thrill. They didn't recognize
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: either one of us. We both felt so awful. We
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: got more snacks than we even originally wanted. I gotta
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: tell you, every single time I came to work on that,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: because you you worked in every episode, you were there
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: all the time, but I was in one in every
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: three episodes, maybe sometimes one in every other one. So
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to me was this realization that I was still in
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: show business, you know, because sometimes when you're a woman,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: when you're a woman in this industry, you're pretty much
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: told when you hit about forty that you're washed up.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So here I was on this very popular TV series
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and being written with dialogue that was just as brilliant
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: as the dialogue on All in the Family, and I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: really felt every day that I was there that I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: had won the lottery. So I loved all of it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I loved the scenes in in uh Laura Lae and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Rory's house. I was always excited when there's something in
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: there to do. I never ever did a scene in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: her parents home. I was not never And I know
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you went to the senior Gilmore's house sometimes. I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: never in any of those scenes. Yeah, those were great scenes.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That's where that's a great place to shoot. So here's
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a fan question for you, Sally. Here's somebody typing in
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: from the audience. Sally, what was your favorite part of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: playing that that? This is from Ashley. By the way, Ashley,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: thank you for asking that. I think the favorite part.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: The two favorite parts for me is that one they
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: let me do my very bad impression of Ruth Gordon
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and never called me on the carpet about it. And
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: number two, they always let me wear my own clothes
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: because I don't look good when you dressed me in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: other people's clothes. So once they understood that I would
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: bring choices, I was always so comfortable on the set
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in my own clothes. Right. I know that's not the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: answer that you were looking for, Ashley, but but I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was really excited to do my get out my roof
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Gorden kind of thing. Oh my god, that made me happy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's just all hitting me now
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: because because I mean, yeah, that's what you were doing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. But it wasn't. It was an homage, it was,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: but it was it was mostly you, but a little
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: bit that's yeah, that's that's good stuff. All Right, here
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: we go, we're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna wrap it
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: upright by asking you a final question, what are you
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: most thankful for? From Gilmore Girls? It sounds so selfish
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: all about me, but honestly, I was really grateful. But
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I was on a show that was so good and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: so well liked that I stopped being approached as oh,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: there's that girl from Archie Bunker. You know, people didn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: even remember it was called All in the Family. They
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: call it the Archie Bunker shows all about Archie. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they'd come up and they'd say, you know, oh, we
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: haven't seen you in so long? Have you retired? Dear?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: All of that kind of condescending stuff where you want
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to step on their feet and walk away. But but
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: then I started getting stopped by people who watched Gilmore Girls,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and they it made me feel like I had come
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: alive again in my career because I had been hearing
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: thirty years worth of All in the Family remarks, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: now I was getting a whole new generation that would
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: talk to me. So and that has lasted, it still
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: seems current. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they keep playing it. It's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: uh yeah. Every new generation is discovering the show and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: love and falling in love with the show, and yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. I'm so glad you had me on
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: your podcast. Should I hang around? Are you gonna have
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: us all back in a while? Yes, we're gonna, yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up the segment. You're gonna come back
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: for the fan Q and A. Alright, you around because
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I love you. I love you too, very much and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I love see you in a little bit. All right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: good deal, Sally, thank you. Okay, so we're gonna, we're
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go to some uh some fan Q
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and A here and here's Chris and Tiffany asking, uh me, okay,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: did you serve real food in Luke's diner? Oh? You
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: bet you? I did. Um. That was real cooked burgers,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that was real chicken, that was real waffles, real eggs,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: real everything. Everything was real. I'm not saying it was fresh, Okay,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. And sometimes extras did kind of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you know, break the rules and break down and and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: start eating what they we would call the prop food. Um.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And I was tempted a few times myself late at
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: night and hungry and Crafty was running out of food
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: and the pizza was gone, and you know, you look
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: at one of those, you know, those old burgers, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like who cares? Just dig it? But now it was.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: To answer your question, it was all real. Everything was real, Yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed. Um. Okay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Next question is from Lyndy or Lynde. LYNDI, Uh, did
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the fake snow in Stars Hollow have a smell to it? Yes?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely it did because it was made out of paper. Um,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and it smelled like paper. Uh. So it's it's just
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: paper that's chopped up into it's you know, fine not granules,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: but pretty pretty fine, tiny little pieces of paper, hundreds
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of millions of tiny little pieces of paper being shot
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: through a very expensive looking and very large, cumbersome machine. Uh.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they'll just sort of rain it down from
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a um, sort of a sieve like contraption way above you.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's quite clever. Um, but it us
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: get in your ears and your nose and your mouth
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and your arts and all kinds of places. So um um, yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it smells like paper, that's what it smells like. Yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: there he is. Hello there man, how you doing, buddy,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm good. Are we live right now? We are live,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: beaming out streaming out to the world. Wow, hey, say hello,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: hi everybody, all your beautiful pable So look, let's uh,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: let's do a couple of questions then well then you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: can play us your song. Okay, really looking forward to um.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks for coming on. Great to have you,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: great to see it. My pleasure, my pleasure. And by
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm coming to your neck of the Woods
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in February. Are you really? I am the Nashville area.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I am gonna I'm coming down there. I'm gonna work
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: with some top songwriters for a whole week and uh
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: do some podcasts with them and write some songs with them,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you know. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Man. Well, um,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: well we've got to we've got to get together. Yes
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  Speaker 1: we will. We'll hit the honky tonks, yes we will.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: We will. So look, we absolutely loved having you on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast last time. Um, what was it like strolling
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: down Troubadour memory Lane for you? What was it like
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: trolling down Troubadoor Avenue you're referring to, uh when you're
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: on the podcast recounting your days on right right right? Well,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: it was great. It went by in a flash. We
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: got we got talking and we we covered a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ground and goodness, Um, I don't know. It's a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: funny thing, isn't it when you when I sometimes forget
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  Speaker 1: how many seasons, how many years passed that we were
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: all involved with the show, you know, because it all
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: seems to exist in some ways for me, but like
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in one moment, in some ways, you know, I don't
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: know you. And even when we went back to um
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you know, to stars Hollow for the reunion, it was
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  Speaker 1: like that everybody just found their place immediately. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have to find the tape on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: You knew where to go and everybody, everybody had a connection.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It was nice. It was nice for you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: visiting that. It really was. We just had Sally on.
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  Speaker 1: She was so grateful for that opportunity to come back
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  Speaker 1: and do it again, and I felt I felt the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: same way at the time. It's like you won the lottery.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, really, it's just happening. I mean, right right right, yeah, Um,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: so you look very cozy and you're in your home.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I felt very cozy. I've got the you know, the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the autumnal mantle. You can see behind me, a copious
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: amount of flint corn behind me. And yeah, so, how
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  Speaker 1: would you describe the Troubadorus music and what genre would
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: it be? M Uh, it's uh, it's traveling music. It's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's music made for walking, for strolling. You know. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: guess maybe it's because I tend to write songs when
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I'm when I'm on the move, you know, when I'm traveling. Uh,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: when I'm out there on my own. Um, that was
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a hard thing to adjust to with this your pandemic.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Suddenly I found myself kind of you know, sitting at
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: home and there's plenty of time to write songs. But
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: something about that, you know, that uh, that kind of
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: input that you get, you know, that that stimulation of
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: travel and seeing new places. You know. Um, I always
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: get a lot of ideas in that way. So I
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: guess it's traveling music wherever you're going metaphorically, you know, literally.
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  Speaker 1: So as as we get further into the series, you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: we see the Troubadore more and more. Um, yeah, did
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you get to keep that neck microphone set up? And
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: oh I I built that. That was all my own
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that yeah, you know, and um yeah, I mean Amy,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they they said, yeah, show up, you know, when I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: kind of showed up with with my my suit and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: my homemade um busking rig you know, a little pig
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: nose amp with a harmonica holder with a spray painted
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: golden microphone, and I kind of rigged the whole thing.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember, at the very beginning,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that microphone went through like a little echo box and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I had that, but I soon realized this thing is
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: very heavy, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna spend the
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: afternoon walking around. So I kind of paired it down finally,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: but it was always heavy and and I had and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I had to wear it. I didn't want to do
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a scene without it, you know, right, Yeah, How did
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the Trouvadore evolve of the seasons? In your opinion? How what?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: How did he? Uh, that's a good question. I think
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me that with this might have taken
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: place early on, but it seemed to reach a fever pitch.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I noted that my character was always angry about something,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean maybe maybe there's a little bit
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: of you know, a little bit of that, you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you sense it in Taylor. There there are other characters
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that they have, uh, you know, that have these issues.
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  Speaker 1: And mine, of course was the first reveal itself, you know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: when I had to like fight for my troubadour turf um,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: which you know that happened. But even later on when
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I come back after being on the road with with
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Neil Young and uh and again, um, you know, kind
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: of flying off the handle there too, you know. So
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: here's the storyline for maybe the next reboot. We discover
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we find out that you're really Tailor's younger brother you've
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: never met, and that the store, the candy store that
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: he inherited right from his family, was supposed to go
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to you. So a lengthy court battle, you kick him
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: out of that store and you take over and he
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: becomes the town trooper or what do you think of that?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Do I have any chance that I think that's a
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that's a great idea. I'd love to see you as
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the new Tailor Wow, And I'd like I'd like to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: see Taylor in with my with my amplifier around well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and he will feel the pain that I haven't heard
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: for so long. I was, I I've made a suggestion
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that Taylor like, like I have a place to make
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a suggestion. What if I think Taylor should be uh
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like in the Royal Order of Water Buffaloes like Fred
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: flint Stone. You know, doesn't he seem like he should
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: kind of like have a secret handshake and I stash
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: of some kind, you know. So I'm working on a
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: song for Emily Emily Corona with her low internet and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: can't hear or can't hear me? Inspired a song. Hey, Emily,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: can he you what he sent to me? I want
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to talk to you right now, Hey, Emily, can't it?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Don't be cute? Don't you mute em They're gonna me.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You're tuned to the classic Massile key
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: of ease something or another. I think I'm probably not. Look,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: we have our own tuning, you know. I'm in Nashville.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Nashville tuning right, all right? Um like people that have
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: actual talent and good ears. Right, I got um, let's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: get to your song. Man, tell us about your song?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Tell us, Oh, I'd love to. I thought it might
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: be nice. You know, the leaves are changing here, the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: chill in the air. There's a winter front. Winter front
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: make it its way from one coast to the next.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And along with that, I've got a look at this.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: This is coming out on record sort day. This is
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: remember these phono graphs. I do play these on your
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: photograph player. Um, and this is coming out finally. It's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: on vinyl, not just vinyl, though, it's on that green
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: translucent vinyl. Yeah, and uh, it's kind of a nice thing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: You know. It came out last year digitally, but it's
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: finally available on vinyl. A painting by myself, but tuly painting.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: You'll see when you come to Nashville that it's just
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: every every inch of it cries out to be painted.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful. So so i'll I'll play your song
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: off off that album that I actually premiered on The
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls when we did our our winter reunion. Um,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like so many it's like so many times, I got
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a call from Helen she and Amy talking, do you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: have a song that is uh kind of the scene
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: takes place in the winter, the whole episode actually, so
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: what do you think anything? And I said, you know
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: what I do? I wrote, I wrote a song. Um
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: some years ago my dad said, you know, you should
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: write a song, a seasonal song, a seasonal ballad, you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: all to day number. And I said, you know, that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a good idea, And so I did, and lo and behold,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: it made its debut on The Gilmore Girls, just like
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: that serendipity. You know what's the name of the song.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It's called Winter Glow. I'll play it for you here,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: all right, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Grantly Phillips. Okay,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I just gotta make sure I'm situated just right, Scott,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a little bar stool here and the rungs if I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can I can? There we go perfect? Okay, there we
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: go perfect. Okay mm hmm. You take a swig of water.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I've been eating peanuts tonight. No, and you know how
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that happens, Like hours later you realize I still got
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a peanut in there. They're saving up her later m hm. Okay,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: such a tender feeling. The candle light. I'll flickering wool
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: shoot in the fireplaces close, thank you you full, thanks
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: so much. And that and that was on the show
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that that ended up on Gilmore, that's right, yeah, yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: The snows coming down or crispies or whatever it was.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm in front of the gazebo and I'm just emoting,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: trying to try and keep my scinuces from going crazy
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: from those you know whatever those things are? What are there?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Potato buds they dropped from the sky when they wanted
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to snow. You know what, now that you mention it,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: it's pay paper and it's that too. Yeah. I think
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes they do use those potato butts, but I really
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: think it's mostly paper, right, yeah, wild great song, what
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: beautiful song. Thanks so much. What a performer in that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: voice and the melody, Oh my goodness, I've got I've
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: got special fuel in me today. I'm full of Scotty peas.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I'm doubly caffeinated tonight. Songwriter's choice go to coffee for
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: that's right. Yes, thank you for the plug. That was wonderful.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: That was absolutely wonderful. Um. Now were there times when
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you were touring and you couldn't and you were offered
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: an episode? Amy and Dan reached out and you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: can you do this episode? That episode? Sorry, now I'm Torreon,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: can't do it? Did that happen to you? We? I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: don't think there there was ever a time where we
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: um we have that happened, funny enough, But a lot
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of that was because Um, I would get I would
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: get heads up, usually pretty early on, you know, before
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the season was kicking in, and uh, I would try
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to set aside that time, you know, and just hold
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: off on touring during that particular week or two. You know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: we kind of work around each other. But we were
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: lucky that way. I think there maybe there might have
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: been a time where I had to recut some some
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: dialogue or some music. Um in New York City to
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: replace whatever I had done on the show, because you
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: know that is I mean, you're out there playing and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: then an airplane flies over and so you gotta you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: gotta make it happen. So you know, that's all I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: can really recall, though he got pretty lucky that way. Yeah, alright,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna we're gonna wrap this little session here, buddy.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, stick Please, thank for the for
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the Q and A. They're gonna for sure the fans
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: have many questions they want to ask you. Thank you
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: so much, buddy. Okay, that's gonna do it. That's a
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• 53:10
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• 53:24
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