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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 154 | Jaguars TE Room & Preparing for Steelers · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into JAG's am our twelfth practice day. We're getting
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  Speaker 1: things ready, We're getting things geared up for the first
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  Speaker 1: preseason game of the year. We don't know who'll be
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  Speaker 1: playing this yet, but I, for one, I'm very excited
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  Speaker 1: to see some real football. Ky Nannie Stevens here, Brian Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: John Oser with me. We are live outside at Jaguars'
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  Speaker 1: training camp from the Miller Electric Center. Either I'm dead
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  Speaker 1: inside or it's gotten a little bit cooler.
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  Speaker 2: It's not deadly hot. It couldn't just be in my
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what day does anymore because I am
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  Speaker 2: dead inside.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so when they opened the door, there was a
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  Speaker 3: wall of humidity that hit us.
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  Speaker 4: But it doesn't feel so bad right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm being optimistic. Okay, there's not one hundreds, So it's
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  Speaker 1: a win. Is describing training camp in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  Speaker 4: This is a win.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, we've had We're kind of a dog days of
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  Speaker 1: it now, but we got a preseason game to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: so that's exciting. And also I feel like we've seen
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  Speaker 1: some progress in certain areas I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start out with big thing Number one, which is
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  Speaker 1: in command Trevor Lawrence looked great yesterday. We saw him
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  Speaker 1: in the scrimmage operating really well with this new offense,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked about how he feels more comfortable out there.
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  Speaker 2: Grant you.
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  Speaker 1: Dinsky talked to us yesterday and he talked a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about giving Trevor leniency, specifically if he makes a
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  Speaker 1: mistake throws an interception to kind of move on from that.
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  Speaker 5: It's the same mindset and approach with every snap, but
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  Speaker 5: giving them the comfort and confidence to move on from
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  Speaker 5: a throw like that, you know, to progress differently and
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  Speaker 5: to learn from that mistake. I think with reps and
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  Speaker 5: times he sees it, he recognizes the mistake and he'll improve.
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  Speaker 1: That's in reference to interceptions through in the scrimmage on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: Brian nothing gets the past.
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  Speaker 2: Foe Stulf.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was particularly hard on Trevor, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they've given him an ownership in this
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  Speaker 1: offense to where his demeanor is a bit different and
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  Speaker 1: we've seen his command of the offense.
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  Speaker 4: It's his now, it is And the word that I
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  Speaker 4: want to use with him is resilience.
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  Speaker 3: Right, we talked about this team last year, John not
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  Speaker 3: being a really resilient team. They didn't respond in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter in close games. But Trevor, after a admittedly
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  Speaker 3: underwhelming practice the day before, came out yesterday and owned it.
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  Speaker 3: And he made a beautiful throw on the one headed
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  Speaker 3: catch to Brenton Strange and then you know the run
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  Speaker 3: to the right in the goal line where it was
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  Speaker 3: a risky throw, but he put the ball on a
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  Speaker 3: dime to Diamie Brown and I just I walked away
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  Speaker 3: thinking Trevor has taken up big step forward.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, he didn't have a great practice on Monday,
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  Speaker 6: but you don't have great practices every day. I don't
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  Speaker 6: anticipate having a very good show today, but you guys
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  Speaker 6: will pick me up right here, John, I'll come back
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  Speaker 6: tomorrow and be a lot better. What you look for
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  Speaker 6: from him during training camp is steady growth and it's
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  Speaker 6: not going to be like this. It's going to be
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  Speaker 6: And he had a day like this and then he
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  Speaker 6: came back. Somebody asked me why. I thought that was
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  Speaker 6: because he's human, right, So in the last four or
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  Speaker 6: five days and Brian Kai, I think you feel this
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  Speaker 6: as well. You've seen solid stuff from him. You feel
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  Speaker 6: like overall this is a guy who's comfortable in what
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  Speaker 6: he's doing. He knows what they're asking of him. He's
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  Speaker 6: still working through the footwork stuff, but it has to
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  Speaker 6: be expected. He's learning a new language and he's trying
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  Speaker 6: to speak that language consistently all the time. Now I'm
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  Speaker 6: more optimistic about him than I have been since Cincinnati
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  Speaker 6: in twenty three when it all started going south. I
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  Speaker 6: feel like he's back on track, I would agree. And
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  Speaker 6: since you talked about footwork, Kay, I think the word
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  Speaker 6: with him is traction. It feels like he's getting traction
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  Speaker 6: with the offense.
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  Speaker 3: And for what Liam's expectations are for him as the
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  Speaker 3: leader of this team, I feel like he's rising to
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  Speaker 3: the occasion.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And when you talk about resiliency, I think just in
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  Speaker 1: contrast to what we felt last year and just being
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  Speaker 1: around the team, felt like you were waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: pin to drop at every point, for something to go wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel that way. Obviously, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to games soon, so we'll see how it goes,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like they're waiting for the other
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  Speaker 1: shoot to drop anymore. Feels like they're in control of
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  Speaker 1: their own destiny, which is a good place to be.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of the weapons Trevor's been throwing too.
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  Speaker 1: Our second big thing today is going to be high flying.
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  Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the wide receiver group
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  Speaker 1: group yesterday, but Parker Washington has had a great training
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  Speaker 1: camp so far, had one of his best days in
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  Speaker 1: practice yesterday. Grant he don't see offensive coordinator talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about.
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  Speaker 5: And you see a guy who can win consistently against
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  Speaker 5: man coverage and match coverage, tight coverage like that, make
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  Speaker 5: plays on the ball, tack the ball with his hands.
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  Speaker 5: Those are encouraging for the play caller. They give you
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  Speaker 5: comfort to give him isolation routes and put them in
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  Speaker 5: different spots, just like we talked about Dyami's ability to
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  Speaker 5: line up in different spots.
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  Speaker 4: It trusts.
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  Speaker 5: It allows you to trust Parker to be at different spots.
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  Speaker 4: On the field.
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  Speaker 5: A guy goes down here, he can plug and place
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  Speaker 5: at different spots and go and execute a wide route.
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  Speaker 2: Treat John during training camp.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's some days where maybe you don't
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  Speaker 1: see a certain player, they don't really jump out to you.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like Parker's doing something every day where you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, yeah, and look I'm not gonna say the whole
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  Speaker 6: roster is there yet because you wouldn't expect it to
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  Speaker 6: be in a regime change. Parker Washington third year looking
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  Speaker 6: like this is what good franchises have all over the roster. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: he's a six round draft pick who in his third
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  Speaker 6: year now is showing you that if there's a problem
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  Speaker 6: somewhere at receiver, he can step in and they're not lost.
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  Speaker 6: He shouldn't have been the number two guy last year.
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  Speaker 6: You feel great with him as the number four, and
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  Speaker 6: you feel like when he gets in there's no drop off.
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  Speaker 6: There is real depth wide receiver on this team. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not sure how many other places there are, but that's
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  Speaker 6: an example of where you've got to get Brian.
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  Speaker 3: They shall have to go do it on the field, right,
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  Speaker 3: But if they're right about Theammy Brown at Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 3: we believe they are. Parker Washington is the guy who
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  Speaker 3: makes this the deepest I've ever seen this wide receiver room.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even going back to Jimmy McKinnon, they struggle
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  Speaker 3: to find the three.
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  Speaker 4: Now they may have a four.
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  Speaker 3: Think about the flexibility John that that gives Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 3: and Grant you Dinsky to be able to create mismatches
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  Speaker 3: and to attack a defense. It's gonna be tough enough
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  Speaker 3: to cover Travis Hunter in the slot. Now, what are
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  Speaker 3: you gonna do with Parker Washington? I mean, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: really is.
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  Speaker 4: He's right. This is the mark of a franchise that's
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  Speaker 4: on the right track.
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  Speaker 2: It's exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Also, when we talked a little bit about wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: five who that might be Trap's CTN is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a big part of this past game as well as
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  Speaker 1: we've seen the usage.
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  Speaker 2: So far in training camp. So that's exciting as well.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to forget our final big thing game prep.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a preseason game on Saturday. We'll talk more
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  Speaker 1: in depth about the Steelers coming to town. We do
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  Speaker 1: not know if the starters will play, how long they
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  Speaker 1: will play, what it's going to be, but we do
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  Speaker 1: know this will be the first NFL head coaching game
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  Speaker 1: for Liam Cohen as head coach Brian What can we expect?
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  Speaker 1: What we're gonna learn a lot stylistically about how he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna coach.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just get the sense Kai and John that we're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna see a whole lot. He's got the advantage
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  Speaker 3: of not being in the position where he has to
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  Speaker 3: show much. I think we're gonna see a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the basics of what he expects, how he expects effort
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  Speaker 3: and intensity and guys to play. He talked earlier this
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  Speaker 3: week about not needing to play his starters too much,
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  Speaker 3: but then having the experience in Tampa getting some quality reps.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where he's gonna play him too much,
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  Speaker 3: but I think we're gonna see some very basic things.
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  Speaker 3: But he's going to talk about effort, intensity and hustle
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  Speaker 3: and things like that.
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  Speaker 6: I think he'll learn more about what a head coach
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  Speaker 6: goes through one game day. Then we'll learn about him,
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  Speaker 6: because I don't think he'll show very much what he's
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  Speaker 6: going to do in the regular season the preseason. I
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  Speaker 6: anticipate this is my gut. I think he'll play starters
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  Speaker 6: tomorrow as this as this team gets more his as
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  Speaker 6: these guys have played in systems before. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if he'll do that moving forward next year, but I've
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  Speaker 6: just got to believe that he's gonna want these guys
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  Speaker 6: to feel game day together before week one.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just me guessing.
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  Speaker 3: He has not pulled me aside and told me that
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  Speaker 3: about the fundamentals right of what he expects his team
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  Speaker 3: and how he expects them deployed right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think with so many new faces, new system
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  Speaker 1: in place, it'd be nice to see him out there
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  Speaker 1: at least for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it would be all right.
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  Speaker 2: Stay with us, We're going to.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the game against the Steelers coming up, and
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  Speaker 1: also do deep dive into the tight end room. Tell
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, from a playing aspect, I don't think it's much different,
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  Speaker 7: because obviously Evan was down last year for a lot
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  Speaker 7: of games, so I had to take on that role.
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  Speaker 4: But it was different.
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  Speaker 7: I was in and out of it, you know, so
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  Speaker 7: and when you're in and out of it, you know
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  Speaker 7: obviously the reps are different, the roles are different, what
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  Speaker 7: you're going to be asked to do in the game,
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  Speaker 7: plans different. So that changed week the week in which
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  Speaker 7: it kind of messed with me a little bit last year,
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  Speaker 7: just trying to understand and feel my way and trying
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  Speaker 7: to always prepare. But I think something that I've done
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  Speaker 7: good ever since I've honestly been in college, and that
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  Speaker 7: my college coaches taught me was to always prepare like
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  Speaker 7: you're going to be a starter. And I think that
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  Speaker 7: that paid off on me last year, and no matter
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  Speaker 7: if I was a starter or whatever it was last year,
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  Speaker 7: that's how.
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  Speaker 3: I always prepared.
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  Speaker 1: Brenton Strange entering year three. For him, obviously we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about the tight ends right now. He's probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the only ones you're gonna remember from last season
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  Speaker 1: because they really overhauled that room other than the coach
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  Speaker 1: and Brenton Strange right there. But entering his third year,
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  Speaker 1: we saw him in flashes.
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  Speaker 2: As he mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, Evan Ingram was a favorite for Trevor Lawrence, but
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  Speaker 1: Evan Ingram dealing with some injuries last year. So we
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  Speaker 1: saw a decent amount of Brenton Strange and he certainly
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  Speaker 1: has the ability, but he's excited to kind of know
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  Speaker 1: that that is his role in the offense going in
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 3: He made a big catch yesterday on that one handed
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  Speaker 3: grab and it made me wonder, John, how good can
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  Speaker 3: he be?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't look a Travis Kelcey, Greg Kittle
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  Speaker 3: kind of guy. But yet I thought a Dallas Goddard,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a guy who's gonna catch fifty five sixty balls,
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  Speaker 3: six seven touchdowns, and it'd be a differentiator in the
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  Speaker 3: offense because he's he's going to attack the middle and
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  Speaker 3: force a defense to adjust. He looks like he could
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  Speaker 3: be that kind of impactable player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what you said hits it on the head.
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  Speaker 6: Bare minimum he's gonna matter, meaning bare minimum defensive coordinators
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  Speaker 6: can't ignore him. I think bare minimum is gonna be good.
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  Speaker 6: We saw last year. I think he had forty catches.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was about four hundred yards if I'm
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  Speaker 6: remembering right, and he can up that, I think their
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  Speaker 6: room is pretty good around him. At the very least,
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  Speaker 6: he's going to be a high level blocker. Whatever he
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  Speaker 6: gives you as a receiver beyond that forty mark I
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  Speaker 6: think is gravy because I don't think they necessarily need
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  Speaker 6: him to be the productive pass catcher that Devin Ingram
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  Speaker 6: was because they've got so much more on the outside now,
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  Speaker 6: So if he can compliment that and scare defenses in
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  Speaker 6: the interior, I think he's a big part of the
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  Speaker 6: going to do.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the other thing about him is because we
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  Speaker 3: kind of got to know Am a little bit off
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  Speaker 3: Mike off camera. He's real serious about football. I mean
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  Speaker 3: really serious about football, and that approach is exactly what
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to build around here.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think he's excited about every aspect of playing
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  Speaker 1: a tight end. Sometimes you talk to the tight ends
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  Speaker 1: and they want to be a wide receiver, right, They're
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  Speaker 1: not as much into the blocking. You get the feeling
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  Speaker 1: from him he's just excited to lay somebody out and
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  Speaker 1: do run blocking as he is as catching a football.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they want to run better around here, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to see him get hurt if they're
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  Speaker 6: going to attain that goal. I think he's really important
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  Speaker 6: for that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this group because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these names are new, so some of some experience
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  Speaker 1: brought in. Obviously, Hunter Long and Johnny Munt both in
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  Speaker 1: LA at one point, so James Gladstone kind of knew
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  Speaker 1: them that way in free agency bringing those guys in.
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  Speaker 1: And also some other names, Quinson Morris, Patrick Herbert, Justin
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  Speaker 1: Herbert's little brother.
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  Speaker 2: He's a rookie this year. He's on the roster as well.
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  Speaker 1: John Copenhaber, we don't really know how this room is
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  Speaker 1: gonna shake out, whether they'll carry three or four, what
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be exactly, but there.
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  Speaker 2: Is some experience there. Bretton Strange talked about it. He says, yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: The one that's been here, but some of these guys
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  Speaker 1: have been in the league for a lot longer than me,
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  Speaker 1: and they can bring in that experience and help me
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  Speaker 1: out in that way as well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's certainly not him trying to tell them what
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 3: The Hunter Long and the Johnny Munch strike me as
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  Speaker 3: dependable options, not just because they understand they've been in
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  Speaker 3: the system. But you know, there are guys who gets
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  Speaker 3: to modest success. You know, thirty catches a couple hundred yards.
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  Speaker 3: They know the role, they understand the offense, and they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be key pieces in packages.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've gotten questions people concerned about their tight end room,
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  Speaker 6: where they gonna sign more guys. I think those questions
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  Speaker 6: come from people who haven't heard of the tight end.
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  Speaker 6: And my question is, unless you play fantasy football, how
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  Speaker 6: many tight ends after Kelsey and Kittle have people heard of?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm exaggerating that. But the point is these two
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  Speaker 6: guys are really consistent, and if you've watched practice, when
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Long's healthy, he can contribute in his passing game.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's gonna catch hundrey yards with the balls,
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  Speaker 6: but the other day he caught a forty five yard
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  Speaker 6: pass and it didn't look like a fluke. So they
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  Speaker 6: like their tight end room. I think a lot more
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  Speaker 6: than people might think when you just glance at the
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  Speaker 6: names and start and start looking for Pro Bowlers, and
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  Speaker 6: they love Breton Strange.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a guy.
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  Speaker 6: If you've watched our stuff, you realize they think of
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  Speaker 6: him as a potential core guy.
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  Speaker 3: If you haven't watched him, and if he plays in
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  Speaker 3: the preseason, just watch the effort, watch the way he
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  Speaker 3: finishes to play. That's what really stands out about him.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about how seriously he is about football. He's
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  Speaker 3: really serious about being a complete tight end, and in
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  Speaker 3: an era where there's more receiving tight ends necessarily than
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  Speaker 3: the complete tight end, Brenton Strange really stands out in
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  Speaker 3: the way that he plays the game with effort, in
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  Speaker 3: intensity and.
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  Speaker 6: Kyle Munten and Long knowing the offense is really key
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  Speaker 6: for why they're here. It's harder for a tight end
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  Speaker 6: to learn an offense than the other two positions, meaning
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  Speaker 6: line or wide receiver, because you've kind of got to
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  Speaker 6: know everything. The big reason that they're positives is that
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  Speaker 6: they have such experience in this scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, grant you.
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  Speaker 1: Dinsky talked a little bit yesterday about Johnny Mount. He
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  Speaker 1: was with him in Minnesota, brought him down here. That's
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  Speaker 1: going to be part of this, but he talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about how helpful it is to have someone
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  Speaker 1: that already knows where they need to be in the system.
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  Speaker 4: Really could be.
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  Speaker 5: More than that because of that flexibility, because he can
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  Speaker 5: block so many different run schemes in the run game.
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  Speaker 4: He can line up inline, he can line up.
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  Speaker 5: As a wing, he can be going back across the
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  Speaker 5: formation when he's off the ball, he can be in motion,
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  Speaker 5: he can run a pretty wide route tree. So that
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  Speaker 5: versatility is hard to guard because you can be an
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  Speaker 5: eleven personnel twelve personnel, and he can be doing such
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  Speaker 5: a variety of different things.
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  Speaker 1: Versatility obviously the word of the day when it comes
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: to the tight end position, but these guys really do
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: have to do a little bit of everything, and it's
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: going to be different than we've seen in the past. Obviously,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: the way Doug Peterson used tight ends is going to
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: be the different than the way Liam Cohen uses tight ends.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: But it is nice to know that they have the
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: options with them.
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't want him to be receivers necessarily, and
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: in Doug's offense, Evan Ingram played receiver. Let's face it,
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: that's not what they're looking for these guys to do
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: their chess pieces on the board.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: You know they're not gonna see him on the field
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: all the time, but when they are, it's going to
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: be a very specific package that they've got where they
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: want the tight end. So I just john, you talked
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: about the roster death a little while ago, when we're
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: talking about wide receivers. The thing that I like about
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: this is that they're completely confident that they've got guys
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: that fit what they want to do and allow them
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: to open up the entire playbook. So many times over
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: the last number of years, you just knew that Jaguars
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: didn't have enough of those pieces on board, and it
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: really limited defenses could step up and challenge and take
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: away your best players for the first time in a while.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: I don't feel like they're gonna be able to do
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: that here.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, the games haven't started yet,
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: but it just feels like a lot of the free
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: agents we talked about and didn't talk about a whole
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: lot are going to matter a great deal. It feels
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: like they did a nice job. All regimes try to
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: do this so far, Brown, Jordan Lewis, you know, these
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: guys feels like they've done a nice job of fitting
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: pieces and that they wont that they had been able
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: to draft because they weren't here the guys that you
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: normally would have drafted.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: So we'll see.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: One more SoundBite from Brenton Strange, who talked a little
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: bit yesterday about now that he kind of knows his
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: role in the offense, he's working on building that trust
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: up with Trevor Lawrence.
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: I think that each day I'm coming out here and
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: just trying to earn Trevor's trust more and more, because
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: that's a big part of it. You know, He's had
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: a relationship with obviously like BT. Like BT, it was
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: there for him all last year and then, like I said,
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: I was in and out of games last year, so
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: I wasn't always the guy that he was throwing the
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: balls to or whatever it was. So I think that
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: that's a big thing for me. It's just coming out
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: here and just not only proven to Trevor, but proven
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: to the coaches and proven to my teammates as well,
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: that I can be a reliable playmaker for this team.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Brian, We've seen in the past Trevor Lawrence likes to
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: throw the people he likes to throw to, He's gonna
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: have a lot of them are gone, so.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to make new favorites, but a lot
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: of them working towards that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Ki Britton was a rookie in twenty twenty three when
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: he watched Evan Ingram catch one hundred and fourteen past,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the second most by a tight end in a single
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: season in the league history. He knows that this quarterback
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: likes that position. And when he says earn his trust,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I mean it's he's going to be in the right
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: spot on every play, and that's going to give Trevor
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the chance to build the same relationship he had with
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Evan Ingram.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: It might not be one hundred and fourteen catching.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: It almost certainly won't because Brian Thomas Junior, and Travis
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Hunter and Diami Brown and even Parker Washington. But man,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: if it's fifty five and they're the right ones on
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: third down and seven, he's got a chance to be
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Evan Ingram like in terms of his dependability.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if Brenton Strange catch one hundred and fourteen, something's
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: gone hardly alright. So but I do think Strange has
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: probably practiced more with Trevor than he's played. And it
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: certainly looks to me out here like Trevor is confident
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: in the four wide receivers, meaning Parker Washington as well.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: But it it feels to me like he doesn't hesitate
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: to go to Strange and then he trusts him and
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: he likes him. I think it's important.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: It's nice to establish at this point in training camp,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: so when the games happen, we'll have that trust.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: There as well.
• 18:10
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  Speaker 1: Of the year against the Steelers and going up against
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Yes, it's the preseason, but you can always
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: learn a little bit something from a guy that's been
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: doing it that long Head coach Liam Cohen said earlier
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: this week he called Tomlin kind of see what his
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: plans were for the game. We'll find what out find
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: out whatever that is on Saturday, but have to imagine
• 18:57
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• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Steffy, long time and at a very high level, obviously
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: never having a losing season in what eighteen years. I'm
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: really interested, John, because these Steelers have taken a dramatic
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: departure from what the Steelers have always been. They're not
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: a free agent team. They're a team that drafts and develops.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And yet they went out and they signed Aaron Rodgers,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and they trade for DK Metcalf and they trade for
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey, and I mean, these are things that the
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Steelers long resisted. It was not part of their DNA
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: or their personality, and it feels like they are rolling
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the dice in a completely new era.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: I haven't talked to him in a while, Brian, but
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: imagine our friend vic Oh has thoughts, many.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Of which would not be suitable for the show.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's absolutely They were for years, really them along
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: with the Ravens. But the Steelers since I started coming
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: to the league have always been that team of we're
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: gonna do what we do, We're gonna draft and develop.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: This feels like a Steelers team that is reaching into
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: free agency, really departing from their past. I'm sure fans
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: like it, because fans love that. I think old Sealer
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: fans probably a little uncomfortable with it. So we'll see
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: how it works. Man, They've done that in the past
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and always gone back to what they were. But they
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: will be one of the teams to watch because when
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is on your team these days, Pat McFee
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: talks about you, well, you get the.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Sense that they went this route with Ramsey and DK
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and all of those guys because they made the mistake
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: at the quarterback position a couple of years ago. They
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: drafted the kid out of pitt who last year was
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: in Philly and now is in Cleveland. They were hoping
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: to find their next quarterback after Ben Roethlisberger, and they missed,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and so they had to do something about quarterback and
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: this was their best option. So if you're going to
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: bring in Aaron Rodgers, will ye, you've got to bring
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: in other guys around it. You're putting it all on
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: today for a team that was ten and seven last year,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: although it didn't necessarily feel like a ten and seventeen.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: To push your chips in year, and the Steelers don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: usually push chips in like that. They usually go like
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: the Ravens do, which is long term.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens to I am very intrigued
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: by this because I feel like there's a lot of
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: personality Aaron Rodgers and Jalen Ramsey alone, but Mike Tomlin's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: notoriously been able to wrangle that into something in the past,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Antonio and Brown, what he's doing with last year as
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: well some of his other wide receivers. If there's anyone
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that can do it, it's Mike Tomlin. But I am
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: curious to kind of see how this plays out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Which personality which you'd rather deal with Aaron Rodgers, who
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: last year proved to be more more curial than we
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: knew or Jalen Ramsey.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: Who we know?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You guys know Jalen.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I think Jalen, right, I'd rather I don't know. You're
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: a big Jalen guy. Yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I think what's interesting is it's a big child. If
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: anybody can handle those guys, Tomlin can't. I have grave
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: re sect from Mike Tomlin. He's usually handled Antonio Brown
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: and that cast younger in their careers. Yes, Jalen and
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Aaron are old enough to tune people out. I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: know if they will tune people out, but they're old
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: enough to do it. Jalen has tuned people out before.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: So look, it's going to be absolutely fascinating. And it
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: again hip the theme. There's many teams that are fascinating
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: like this. It's weird to see the Steelers label on
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: this sort of fascination.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I'm interested in how Jalen reacts to being in Pittsburgh.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: That's a place when you go in there, you were
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: part of the Steelers, you're not necessarily your even though
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Antonio Brown was sort of that way. I wonder if
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: it impacts him because of where he's at in his career.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's at that point now where he's getting
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: towards the end, and his legacy is not as defined
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: as a player of his abilities should be. Well, he's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: moved around a lot.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: He's done it to himself.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: And it's interesting because there are franchises where he's gone
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: to that he's had a chance going in to be
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: a legacy corner. He'll never be the legacy corner in Pittsburgh.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: There's two guys that will always be considered better. So
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that matters. But if you're looking
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: at it from his perspective, mel Blunt, Rod Woodson, in
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: that organization, those kind of names still permeate. So will
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: he fit into that tradition.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he wants to, if he's willing
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to be humbled to a point.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds so weird to say he'll do that,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: But if he wants to be can he can take
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a great step forward, no doubt with his reputation and listen,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: he's a guy with Hall of Fame talent.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You at some point you've got to have somebody behind you.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: We know this that pops up and starts talking about
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you in those meetings, that's willing to advocate for you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know who it is right now.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe someone in Pittsburgh can grab that if he goes
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: in and is part of a team that does something special.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is similar to New England in a way where
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: sometimes they get those later in their career free agents,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but if you go in with effort, they will fully
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: take you into open arms for sure. And that as
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're mentioning, you know, Hall of Fame you looking back
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: at like that, you definitely need that symphoria.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: All right, So coming back, we'll do our final word
• 24:07
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm excited to see real football. What
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: are you excited to see? Brian? We don't know what
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we're going to see, but what do you want to see?
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I want to see the fundamentals. I want to see
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: what's important to the coach.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's been talking about fast right, fundamentally, sound, attacking, smart, tough.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Those are the.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Things that I expect that we will see Liam Cohen emphasizing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Hear him emphasizing in the postgame, and I'd like to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: see it team that plays that way. This is a
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: team that's sort of limped to the end of last season,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: and it all feels new and different. In fact, John
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I said to someone this morning watching them go through
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: their walkthrough here in front of us inside, that this
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: team has the posture the confidence of a team that
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: was nine to eight last year, not four and thirteen.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I'd like to see that on Saturday night.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if the starters play, you'd like to see the
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: offense have a couple of series where they get a
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: few first downs, maybe get a touchdown, come off the
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: field feeling good about what they've been sort of like
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: you felt about after the scrimmage the other night. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: you'd also like to see four or five of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: guys we've been talking about, like maybe a Cephas of
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: a Quint Allen, somebody like that, sort of step up
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: and show, Okay, we're going from camp storyline to a
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: guy who can maybe contribute during the regious season.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: I think guy the Quint Allen for fans who are
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: watching seventh round running back, somebody to really watch during
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: the preseason.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: All the running back, I think, or someone to keep
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: an eye on. I'm excited about the offensive line, the offense, defense.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do all of it real football.
• 26:07
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  Speaker 1: next week, so we will be back on Monday and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we will recap that first preseason game of the year
• 26:13
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• 26:14
  Speaker 2: So enjoy your weekend.