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Mac & Bone Show - David Cone Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: David Cohn is one of the co-hosts of Crane and
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  Speaker 1: Cohn from On3. Check him out, too, on YouTube. And
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  Speaker 1: it's great college football content. And David Cohn joining us
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  Speaker 1: again here on the Mac and Bone Show. David, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on, brother?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I want to just say I've never
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  Speaker 3: been so disrespected in my life, okay? First off, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't even get a call to eat the ribs or
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  Speaker 3: the slabs of beef that you guys are having. And
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  Speaker 3: second of all, that I wouldn't eat this with my hands,
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  Speaker 3: me from South Georgia, a fork and a knife. I
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  Speaker 3: feel very disrespected, but I think we've got about 10
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  Speaker 3: or 15 minutes here, boys, where we can make it
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  Speaker 3: up to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to try to. We are definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to try to. I thought so, Bone. You thought he
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  Speaker 1: was more refined than he is.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that. Oh man. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk some college football. Let's start first. I think
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  Speaker 2: most of it's going to be looking ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Like I, we got some real juicy matchups this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: including obviously the one in Oxford, but just looking back
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  Speaker 1: at Texas, Ohio state, did you think, was it, did
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  Speaker 1: you think Ohio state choked there? Do you think Texas
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  Speaker 1: deserves all the credit for the comeback or do you
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  Speaker 1: just have to give a little of both out there?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly a combination of both. I actually couldn't believe
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  Speaker 3: my eyes. I mean, as someone who played football at Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: I've seen Ohio State. But when they got the jugular,
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  Speaker 3: they don't usually let off of it. And I do
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  Speaker 3: think that they let off of it there in the
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  Speaker 3: second half. But, you know, what makes you let off
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  Speaker 3: the gas pedal sometimes is playing a really good opponent.
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  Speaker 3: And what Will Muschamp did on the defensive side, he
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  Speaker 3: gave up three points in the second half to that offense.
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  Speaker 3: So all credit to them. Tremendous. And I went back
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  Speaker 3: and I rewatched the game because they were as bad
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  Speaker 3: as they could be, Texas was, in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, dropped balls, missed throws, missed protections. But I
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  Speaker 3: rewatched the game. Arch was as good as he could
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  Speaker 3: be in the fourth quarter. And sometimes that's what counts.
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  Speaker 3: And that game is a lot like my golf game.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible shot, terrible shot, terrible shot. And then you get
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  Speaker 3: one brilliant shot, and sometimes you still make par. So
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  Speaker 3: they played three terrible quarters. One brilliant quarter, and they
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  Speaker 3: end up winning the game in incredible fashion to come
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  Speaker 3: from 20 down against an opponent like that truly is incredible. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the bigger question to me is, well, how do you
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  Speaker 3: rank them after that? And I thought about it all
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  Speaker 3: night Saturday, and I thought about it on Sunday, and
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  Speaker 3: obviously we've had our episodes at Crane & Cone so
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  Speaker 3: far this week. And I do think you have to
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  Speaker 3: put them at number one. It's tough to watch a
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  Speaker 3: team play football like that for three quarters and to
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  Speaker 3: rank them number one in the country. But I personally
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  Speaker 3: want to see these marquee matchups early in the season
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  Speaker 3: like this out of conference. And if we want to
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  Speaker 3: incentivize that sort of scheduling, then we need to reward
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  Speaker 3: teams who beat really good teams like that. Yeah. Georgia
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  Speaker 3: has beaten teams 70-20. Georgia looks really good. I think
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  Speaker 3: Georgia will probably beat Texas if they play this year.
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  Speaker 3: But right now, I think Texas deserves that number one ranking,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think Ohio State deserves to fall too far.
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  Speaker 4: David, on the national level, which result from Saturday surprised
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  Speaker 4: you more?
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  Speaker 2: Oops, sorry about that. Get that mic going, baby. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was looking.
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  Speaker 4: I was eating beef ribs still from 24 hours ago.
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  Speaker 4: Rich result on the national level. What results surprise you more,
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  Speaker 4: the way Ohio State blew the lead or the fact
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  Speaker 4: that Oregon lost to Oklahoma State who lost to Tulsa
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  Speaker 4: the week before?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, both Oklahoma State over Oregon and,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, Michigan over Oklahoma, and for the same reason
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  Speaker 3: for both teams. Because when you look at the way
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  Speaker 3: that Michigan had to survive against Western Michigan, and when
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  Speaker 3: you look at Oklahoma State against Tulsa in Week 1,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was bad in every phase of the game.
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  Speaker 3: They were terrible on offense, not just from a quarterback development.
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood gets all the blame for that because, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he hadn't developed a lot, but they also couldn't run
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  Speaker 3: the ball against Western Michigan, which they were at least
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  Speaker 3: been able to do for as long as I can remember.
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  Speaker 3: They're muffin punts, you know, on special teams and the
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  Speaker 3: defense for as good as they were in that first game.
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  Speaker 3: They gave up a 20-play drive in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: So I just– I thought they had no chance against
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma to come out and to respond like that. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was truly incredible. And Oklahoma State, the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: If they lost to Tulsa in a shootout, that would
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  Speaker 3: be one thing because that could tell me, okay, because
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  Speaker 3: you brought in an offensive-minded head coach, you brought in
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  Speaker 3: Drew Mestermaker, and maybe they can have a shootout with
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma or Oregon, which is what ended up did happening.
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  Speaker 3: But the way they lost to Tulsa, I just thought, man,
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  Speaker 3: I just was way too high on Oklahoma State. For
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  Speaker 3: them to respond in that fashion, for Drew Messermaker, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's out there looking like John Elway running into the
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  Speaker 3: end zone, throwing six-yard bombs, flat-footed. I think his game,
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  Speaker 3: he still has room to improve. I think he can
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  Speaker 3: push the pocket a little bit more. But the arm
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  Speaker 3: strength is certainly there, and the playmaking, gunslinging mentality is
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  Speaker 3: certainly there. How good is Oregon? Maybe they beat an
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  Speaker 3: Oregon team that's just not very good. Maybe they're this
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  Speaker 3: year's Penn State. But I still think there's really good
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  Speaker 3: football players over there at Oregon. I think Dan Lanning's
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  Speaker 3: a heck of a coach. And that win for Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: State might look really nice if Oregon gets their act together,
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  Speaker 3: goes on the road in a couple weeks, beats USC,
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  Speaker 3: starts to put some wins together. But yeah, all credit
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  Speaker 3: to the Cowboys there.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with David Cohn from Crane and Cohn. Awesome
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  Speaker 1: college football podcast and content. Search for it, find it,
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  Speaker 1: and listen to these boys.
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  Speaker 2: They're great.
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  Speaker 4: Great dudes, too, no doubt about it. Someone asked if
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  Speaker 4: you were Tom Brady's backup at Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: I missed Tom Brady when I was there. He was
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  Speaker 3: a little bit older.
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  Speaker 2: You're not that old. Come on now.
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  Speaker 3: Man, what a flex that would be to even be
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  Speaker 3: Tom Brady's backup. I will say 80% completion percentage on
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  Speaker 3: the few throws that I did get to throw.
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  Speaker 2: Very efficient. Very efficient, baby.
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  Speaker 4: With those numbers in this day and age, you might
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  Speaker 4: be able to get back in there a little bit somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Fifth year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I can play as long as I want. Now, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if they have like a 10 pass minimum or something,
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  Speaker 3: then I probably won't make the record books.
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  Speaker 1: I think after week one, Michigan fans would have taken you,
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  Speaker 1: but your boys bounce back.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Underwood and your boys bounce back. So what do you think, David,
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  Speaker 2: this week?
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  Speaker 1: Like how much are you looking forward to the spectacle
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  Speaker 1: that will be.
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  Speaker 2: Lane going back to Oxford?
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  Speaker 1: And then when they actually play the game, do you
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  Speaker 1: have a lean in the game itself too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just something that you have to get
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  Speaker 3: your popcorn ready and soak in. This is peak college football,
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  Speaker 3: and you have a guy here in Lane Kiffin who
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  Speaker 3: did so many good things for Ole Miss and for Oxford.
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  Speaker 3: But to leave in that fashion, which he has before,
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  Speaker 3: multiple schools and programs before, to leave in that fashion,
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  Speaker 3: I really am personally hoping the Ole Miss players play well.
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  Speaker 3: I want that for those young men, for the coach
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  Speaker 3: who recruited you and the staff who recruited you to
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  Speaker 3: leave for another school within your own league, which, look,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought Lane said it best at SEC
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  Speaker 3: Media Days. I don't know why it took him seven
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  Speaker 3: months to phrase it like this, but he said, I
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  Speaker 3: took another job. People do it all the time, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and I tried to make everyone happy, and I'm sorry
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  Speaker 3: I can't make everyone happy. But for those young men
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  Speaker 3: to have an opportunity to compete against him at a
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  Speaker 3: different school and you're at home in Oxford, I want
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  Speaker 3: them to play well. There's a lot I like about
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  Speaker 3: both teams right now. I think there's more things that
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  Speaker 3: I like about LSU right now. But I just– and
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  Speaker 3: maybe this is just an emotional pick. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But Trinidad Chambliss at home in Oxford– I think Pete
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  Speaker 3: Golden is going to get that defense right from some
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  Speaker 3: of the mistakes they made in the first half against Louisville.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Rebels somehow find a way against LSU.
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  Speaker 3: And if they don't and LSU goes in there and
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  Speaker 3: they win by 14 or win by even more, then
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  Speaker 3: I think that's going to send a loud message to
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 4: David, as a Gamecocks fan, how worried should I be
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  Speaker 4: about this matchup with Super Camario and the Bulldogs coming in?
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  Speaker 3: I think you should be pretty worried. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: the most underrated matchup this weekend. It's the matchup just
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  Speaker 3: after the game we just talked about that I'm second
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  Speaker 3: most excited about. And look, Shane Beamer recruited me at
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  Speaker 3: Mississippi State when he was with Sylvester Croom. I love
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  Speaker 3: Shane Beamer. I love him as a human being, and
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  Speaker 3: I want him to win a lot of football games. Um,
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  Speaker 3: and I had Mississippi state going two and 10, right?
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  Speaker 3: This is a program that hasn't had a winning record
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  Speaker 3: since Mike Leach passed away. God rest his soul. And
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  Speaker 3: they've gotten good quarterback play. I mean, Blake Chapin was
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  Speaker 3: a heck of a player. So it's not like they
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  Speaker 3: just completely fell off a cliff at that position. But
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  Speaker 3: what this offense looks like so far with the football
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  Speaker 3: jumping off Kamario Taylor's hand, his playmaking ability, their running
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  Speaker 3: back's great, they've got a great wide receiver there, and
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  Speaker 3: the defense so far has looked pretty strong. The win
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  Speaker 3: at Minnesota doesn't get a lot of national attention because
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  Speaker 3: people will roll their eyes and say, well, yeah, that's Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares? That's the only program in the Big Ten
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  Speaker 3: to return their head coach, both coordinators, and their quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: and they were at home. That's a team that usually
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  Speaker 3: at least fights their tails off for four quarters, and
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  Speaker 3: Mississippi State went on the road and blew them out.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait for this matchup. Quarterbacks don't play against
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  Speaker 3: the opposing quarterback. Quarterbacks play against the opposing defense. But
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  Speaker 3: these two guys, Kamario Taylor and Lenora Sellers, I really
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  Speaker 3: do think it's going to be who has the football
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  Speaker 3: in their hands last night. They're going to do something
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  Speaker 3: very special, and they're going to will their team to victory.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun one. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 2: said that. That's underrated.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick before I let you go, Clemson and North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of Tiger and Tar Heel fans, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: listening to us here in Charlotte, David. And it almost
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  Speaker 1: feels like they all agree, oh, Carolina's going to beat Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Clemson still is favored, but a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: picking UNC to go down the Death Valley and win.
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  Speaker 2: How do you see that one?
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's fascinating to hear that. I'm glad you said
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  Speaker 3: that because I'm going to take that to the Crane &
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  Speaker 3: Coon guys and tell them because as I'm looking right
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  Speaker 3: here at our on three, I'm staring at our on
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  Speaker 3: three pick-em board right now, and everyone across the board
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  Speaker 3: has taken Clemson except for me. I'm taking UNC. Look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Statesboro, Georgia. I wanted Georgia Southern to pull
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  Speaker 3: that upset last week just for emotional ties there to
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  Speaker 3: the town of Statesboro. They put on a great defensive performance.
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  Speaker 3: where they were able to turn both the Clemson's quarterbacks over,
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  Speaker 3: but did nothing on offense. I'm just, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: this team for Clemson. I just, I don't see any
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  Speaker 3: real bright spots right now. And look, maybe LSU is
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  Speaker 3: just world beaters and maybe Georgia Southern's a lot better
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  Speaker 3: than we thought. And maybe a new quarterback who's starting now,
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  Speaker 3: the young kid and Tate Reynolds, he'll figure it out
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  Speaker 3: and he'll really come into his own the way that
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  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence as a true freshman did when he finally
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  Speaker 3: took the reign. Maybe that's what's going to happen. I
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  Speaker 3: just think old Bill Belichick, just like he did against
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  Speaker 3: TCU in Week 0, maybe he has one more card
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  Speaker 3: up his sleeve. So I'm excited for this one in
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  Speaker 3: a way that I didn't think I would be before
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  Speaker 3: the season started. But this is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: fun football game. And right now I'm penciling in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: David, real quick, we got to go in 30 seconds,
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  Speaker 4: but I wanted to ask you because you're Nashville-based. Jared Curtis,
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  Speaker 4: the five-star, gets the start for Vanderbilt this week as
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  Speaker 4: the Commodores host NC State. How ready do you think
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  Speaker 4: he is for this start, and how worried should NC
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  Speaker 4: State be about facing Jared Curtis?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's going to have to get ready really quick.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the thought process was there with
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  Speaker 3: not starting him from the beginning so he could get
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  Speaker 3: the snaps in those first two games. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if Blaise Berlowitz was legitimately just better than him, but hey,
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  Speaker 3: this makes a lot of sense. You flipped him over
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  Speaker 3: to Vanderbilt for a reason. Now is his time. NC
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  Speaker 3: State has a heck of a quarterback too in C.J. Bailey,
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  Speaker 3: so I really can't wait for this matchup. I think
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  Speaker 3: NC State's going to come in and really do some
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  Speaker 3: good things in this game. But, hey, I'm excited for
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  Speaker 3: the Jared Curtis era here to start, and I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people in Nashville here are excited as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right, David, you knocked it out of the park.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome job. Check these guys out, Crane & Co., and
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  Speaker 1: awesome content from On3. Find them wherever you get podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Find them at YouTube. David, thank you so much, brother.
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  Speaker 1: And next time we're chowing down on meat early in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, you're getting a call, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Save me some ribs, brother. Thank you.