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- 0:17Speaker 2: Kevin Walsh rather had his first day at the wheel
- 0:19Speaker 2: of the US Central Bank today. The markets didn't like
- 0:23Speaker 2: what they saw. Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds has been
- 0:25Speaker 2: watching and he's with us. Hello Sam, Hello, Hen. Now
- 0:28Speaker 2: he held the rates, which is what everybody expected. So
- 0:30Speaker 2: what's the big deal?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Yeah, no change to rates three point five to three
- 0:35Speaker 3: point seventy five, kind of a bit like saying the
- 0:37Speaker 3: all blacks one at Eden Park scoreline was fully expected,
- 0:41Speaker 3: but the game was something different entirely. So the big
- 0:44Speaker 3: deal was the tone. He completely rewrote the FED statement.
- 0:50Speaker 3: He stripped out all the dents, boring forward guidance, all
- 0:53Speaker 3: the winks and nudges about future cuts, and he boiled
- 0:56Speaker 3: boiled it down to seven words ready, which was the
- 1:00Speaker 3: committee will deliver price stability. They will deliver stable inflation,
- 1:05Speaker 3: full stop. And then he actually went further and said
- 1:08Speaker 3: he all inflation a choice the FED makes, which is
- 1:12Speaker 3: really really blunt language for a central banker. And on
- 1:16Speaker 3: their dot plot so called dot plot or future forecast
- 1:19Speaker 3: for interest rates, half the officials now expect a rate
- 1:24Speaker 3: hype this year, which you know is a huge u turn.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Just three months ago, projections were pointing to cuts.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Now, isn't that what Trump was expecting, that there will
- 1:33Speaker 2: be that he will push the rates lower.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was some real irony there. So he
- 1:41Speaker 3: sort of nominated Wash hoping he'd push rates down, and
- 1:44Speaker 3: we all know the way he treated the former central
- 1:47Speaker 3: banker Jerome Powell and Wash. So the backdroppers headline inflation
- 1:54Speaker 3: is running at four point two percent of the US
- 1:56Speaker 3: three year high, and we know that's partly been driven
- 1:59Speaker 3: by the energy price spike in a labor market that's
- 2:02Speaker 3: really still quite healthy at four point three percent unemployment,
- 2:04Speaker 3: So you can't really cut rates in that environment. But
- 2:07Speaker 3: he did say that, and this is again quite blunt,
- 2:09Speaker 3: that prices have been elevated for five years and represent
- 2:13Speaker 3: a real burden to ordinary Americans and that that definitely
- 2:17Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a governor is going to be pushed around.
- 2:19Speaker 3: The final thing he did here that was he announced
- 2:21Speaker 3: five task forces to completely overhaul the institution itself in
- 2:27Speaker 3: terms of, you know, tabling ideas about how to measure
- 2:31Speaker 3: productivity in an AI era and how the FED communicates
- 2:36Speaker 3: and manages a balance sheet. So a really eventful day
- 2:38Speaker 3: for the US Federal Reserve.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So what did the market do in response and what
- 2:42Speaker 2: does it mean for rates here?
- 2:45Speaker 3: The market took it on the chin, so US stocks
- 2:47Speaker 3: fell sort of one and a half two percent initially
- 2:49Speaker 3: in bond rates or bond yields jumped US dollar strength
- 2:52Speaker 3: and so sort of the classic market reactions to a
- 2:55Speaker 3: hawkish feed or a FED that sounds like it might
- 2:57Speaker 3: height rather than cut. Closer to home, a stronger US
- 3:00Speaker 3: dollar and high US yields put direct downward pressure on
- 3:05Speaker 3: the Kiwi dollar, and shorter term New Zealand interest rates
- 3:08Speaker 3: jumped about half as much.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Okay, what does it mean for investors here?
- 3:13Speaker 3: It's a pretty interesting picture. Globally for central banks, you
- 3:18Speaker 3: know that they're quite out of sync, which is pretty unusual.
- 3:20Speaker 3: So yesterday we saw the Bank of Japan raise rates,
- 3:23Speaker 3: and they're on a fairly aggressive raising path. Now. The RBA,
- 3:27Speaker 3: which got well ahead of the curve and started raising
- 3:29Speaker 3: rates several months ago, they held rates yesterday and they
- 3:34Speaker 3: hinted that they maybe at the end of the cycle.
- 3:36Speaker 3: But generally speaking, we're in an unwelcome global rate hold
- 3:40Speaker 3: or hike cycle, which the market clearly doesn't like in
- 3:43Speaker 3: it on a short term basis, but medium term, a
- 3:46Speaker 3: credible central banker at the helm of the US Federal
- 3:49Speaker 3: Reserve is absolutely critical for confidence in markets and currencies generally,
- 3:53Speaker 3: so fair play to have them here therefore, standing this
- 3:56Speaker 3: ground and not bowing to political pressure on day one.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Yeahs too, right, Sam, Thank you, appreciate it. We'll talk
- 4:01Speaker 2: to you next week. Sam Dicky for Shafunds.
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