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The Late Debate | 20 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late please, well, thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for that visual, James mcfershon mcpherston, We really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm Danikity Georgio. Tonight, Joe Bite,
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  Speaker 1: jim A ton Yi and Joe Hilda Brandt.
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  Speaker 2: What a team you both and doing it for themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And Joe, well, you're like the Spare, You're like Prince
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  Speaker 1: Harry then tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an honorary Italian and an honorary chick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll accept you into the fold. Except you glad
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  Speaker 1: that you know.
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  Speaker 2: You you can start a book club.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll give that a go later.
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  Speaker 3: No, I've never been in a book club in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Really, that is actually a fun fact. If you were
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  Speaker 2: in a book club, that would be an unfund.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be very bizarre. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Coming up on the show. An Zac Day
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  Speaker 1: is around the corner, but because it falls on a Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: not every jurisdiction gets the Monday public holiday. Should we
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  Speaker 1: really get an extra day off? We'll get stuck into that.
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  Speaker 1: The Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney sets the standard to
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  Speaker 1: deal with illegal immigrants. She's giving immigration lawyers and almost
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  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars bonus to send clients back to where
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  Speaker 1: they came from, and a look at tomorrow's papers, including
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  Speaker 1: a peek into cop killer Desi Freeman's lair where he
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  Speaker 1: spent his last days before being shot dead. But first
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  Speaker 1: to night. The thought of a bunch of topless men
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  Speaker 1: exercising might be tantalizing to some. I told you that
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  Speaker 1: in concidence aka Joe and I. Of course this is
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  Speaker 1: tantalizing for both of us. But a local community in
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  Speaker 1: Adelaide for what for them, it's become actually an unwanted distraction.
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  Speaker 1: A men's training group called Ready Fall All is under
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  Speaker 1: fire for taking over playground equipment to work out and
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  Speaker 1: film gym videos at a local park in Burnside. Now
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  Speaker 1: The Advertiser has revealed that parents and friends were left
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  Speaker 1: feeling intimidated when about twenty topless men swarmed the playground
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  Speaker 1: on a busy Sunday morning, using monkey bars for chin
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  Speaker 1: ups and performing inverted push ups next to a climbing net.
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  Speaker 1: Now one who saw the group so that the men
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  Speaker 1: took over the equipment, and she even went on to
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  Speaker 1: say that they scared away young children who were just
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  Speaker 1: trying to have fun with their friends. They had banners
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  Speaker 1: and flags up with their business logo in what appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be a bid to claim the children's space. Have
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  Speaker 1: a look at this, she said. They weren't budging. There
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of grunting and a lot of shirt
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  Speaker 1: taking off. It just felt intimidating, really intimidating. Another mum
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  Speaker 1: who was at the playground on the Sunday morning, said
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  Speaker 1: the group drove their cars down the access road onto
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  Speaker 1: the playground's edge. I looked at their Instagram page and
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  Speaker 1: their whole motto was we don't just show up, we
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  Speaker 1: take over. It was very deliberate, just on principle A
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  Speaker 1: kid's playground is not the right place for them. Now,
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  Speaker 1: supporters of the training group, the RFA, have defended what
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  Speaker 1: they are calling a calisthenics group.
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  Speaker 4: They're using an outdoor workout pig, not a kid's playground,
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  Speaker 4: And with everything that's going on, you've got young men
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  Speaker 4: actually choosing to train, stay disciplined, not be doing dumb
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  Speaker 4: and that's what gets posted like it's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 4: They're not causing any trouble, they're not disrespecting anyone, They're
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  Speaker 4: just working out. So instead of tearing it down for
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  Speaker 4: the clicks, maybe highlight the fact that young men are
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  Speaker 4: actually trying to do better.
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  Speaker 1: And Burnside Council has confirmed the group have not obtained
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  Speaker 1: a permit to use a facility and has immediately taken
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  Speaker 1: action to lock in and emergency access road that RFA
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  Speaker 1: training used to drive bad vehicles onto the edge of
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  Speaker 1: the playground. Gemma, is this appropriate behavior or not?
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is like putting a mirror to
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  Speaker 5: yourself and going I don't like what I see. I
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  Speaker 5: mean it is adelaide and it disrespects out Australians. But seriously,
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  Speaker 5: come on, like if you're intimidated by a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: young people working out and so my brain breaks a
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  Speaker 5: little bit trying to understand that they're young blokes training
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  Speaker 5: doing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They're not out boozing, they're not out doing all of
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  Speaker 3: those things. Is there not some part? Is there not?
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  Speaker 5: Some part of the people complaining that is embarrassed by that,
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  Speaker 5: embarrassed by complment.
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  Speaker 2: But if the kids who were using the playground end
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  Speaker 2: up growing up, don't boss themselves so traumatized by RFA
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  Speaker 2: coming and using.
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  Speaker 3: The player I mean without a permit. Job, Well, if
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  Speaker 3: some of the.
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  Speaker 2: Young kids like waiting for the swing, went on the swings. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know that that might be their next play well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: exactly after next. I have to say, though, in accordance
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  Speaker 2: with what you no, that looks more like me. Actually
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  Speaker 2: that's huge. That's exclusive topic guy on the left. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean that is not a playground fitness. That is
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  Speaker 2: an outdoor workout center. If my kid was doing chin
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  Speaker 2: ups on that crossbar, I'd be, you know, telling him
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  Speaker 2: to leave school and get a job. I think people
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  Speaker 2: who are sort of a bit confused, and this seems
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  Speaker 2: to be what. I don't know if this has happened
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  Speaker 2: in Adelaide yet, but if it has, then don't worry Perth.
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  Speaker 2: You'll get yours in a couple of decades.
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  Speaker 3: This appears to be that we can't know.
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  Speaker 2: You hear this sound of television switching off west of
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  Speaker 2: the Noble. No, but this is it's a flash mob?
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  Speaker 2: Is it? It's just like a flash mob they do,
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  Speaker 2: they go, they film this whole thing happening.
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  Speaker 5: Is it's actually building community, It's building online community in
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  Speaker 5: the fitness place.
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  Speaker 3: I know this because I'm a fit.
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  Speaker 5: Influencer hashtag influencer hashtag old girl training, that's my hashtag.
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  Speaker 5: But seriously, people, they're they're they're inspiring other young men
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  Speaker 5: to get fit in an environment joinxercide for a second.
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  Speaker 5: In an environment where young men have got more self harm,
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  Speaker 5: more suicide, just as much many health challenges as young women,
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  Speaker 5: we should be celebrating them. Do you not think we
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  Speaker 5: should be going good on you?
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  Speaker 2: You're a young mom and you're still turned off by
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  Speaker 2: a guy who's totally ripped doing exercise.
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  Speaker 3: You need to check your life choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think they need to think. We'll hang
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  Speaker 2: on it. What am I doing? Maybe they should up
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  Speaker 2: you know, ask her how she's feeling, totally, asks if
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  Speaker 2: they can change in nappy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you on this. I agree with you. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that that to me, when I looked at that vision,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, that's not a play play equipment. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the swings, it's not the monkey bars. These are a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of men actually working out on what to me
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  Speaker 1: looks like fitness equipment I want to be intimidated by. Like,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I hate the gym. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. They're called the gym bro and
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  Speaker 1: to me, they look like the gym bros. You know
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  Speaker 1: that they muscle and they type their Instagram photos and
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  Speaker 1: they put it online. They probably use it for their
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  Speaker 1: Tinder profiles as well. I I don't like that nonsense,
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  Speaker 1: but I think when they're out there in outdoor training
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  Speaker 1: areas like that, in the open, they're not They're not
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  Speaker 1: harming anybody. I don't personally see what the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is an absolute storm in the tea
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  Speaker 1: cup by a number of locals there. And I actually
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  Speaker 1: agree with what that supporter said. You know, these guys
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  Speaker 1: are actually trying to better themselves. They're trying to be better,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with that because health and fitness is
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  Speaker 1: great for your mind, it's great for your physical health.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think good on them.
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  Speaker 5: It also is it's the whole offense culture. Australians have
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  Speaker 5: fallen into that trap. I think increasingly of this offense culture. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I can't they haven't got a permit. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 5: I's intimidated. I mean, is there anything that sums up
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  Speaker 5: the the sort of colonial status anxiety part of the
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  Speaker 5: Australian psyche that we love to line up and we
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  Speaker 5: love rules and oh.
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  Speaker 3: My god, have you've got a permit. Joe Hildebrand.
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  Speaker 2: It's very missus Edna Everett.
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  Speaker 1: Mangle.
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  Speaker 3: It's missus Mangle.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the whole point, isn't it That these
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  Speaker 2: guys are doing this as a publicity start. They are
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  Speaker 2: going there with their branded vehicles and their branded content.
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  Speaker 2: They are filming it, they are posting it on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: with the hashtag to get publicity, and all the people
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  Speaker 2: who are outraged about it are actually.
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  Speaker 1: Feeding exactly into.
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  Speaker 2: What they are trying to do. So they're just out
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  Speaker 2: foxed everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Fox, out fox the fox.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, just.
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  Speaker 2: Six pack. Massive, slightly more serious issue that has beset
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  Speaker 2: the nation is the question of whether or not we
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  Speaker 2: commemorate Anzac Day, not obviously on any different day other
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  Speaker 2: than April the twenty fifth, but whether we should have
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  Speaker 2: a holiday in lu of Anzac Day if April twenty
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  Speaker 2: fifth happens to fall on a weekend. And the new
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  Speaker 2: South Wales government, which officially and scientists have confirmed this,
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  Speaker 2: can do no wrong because it's run by Chris Mins,
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  Speaker 2: who is handsome enough to be out.
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  Speaker 3: On Kevin Bacon.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that he's even better looking than Kevin Bacon.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a stronger chin than Kevin Bacon and guarantee
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  Speaker 2: he could do more preacher curls and chin ups than
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  Speaker 2: those the Jim Bros. But he has and of course
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  Speaker 2: I can't possibly disagree with this, but I will anyway.
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  Speaker 2: He has said, Look, we're not going to We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to have another day off to make up for
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  Speaker 2: Anzac Day if it falls on a Saturday or Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: which it does this year. This year it falls on
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  Speaker 2: a Saturday, next Saturday, this coming Saturday, and so New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales will for the first time not get a
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  Speaker 2: public holiday on the Monday. It will just commemorate Anzac
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  Speaker 2: Day on the Saturday and you have your Sunday and
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  Speaker 2: that's it. And I think next year it falls on
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  Speaker 2: a Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Day here in New Southwales, not in New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe.
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  Speaker 3: No, there is.
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  Speaker 5: There is a new stuff. I run a business. My
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  Speaker 5: staff aren't coming to work on Monday's.
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  Speaker 3: Depth there is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's in the next cycle then, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I should know what I'm talking about. But maybe not
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  Speaker 2: this year but in the years to camp. So what
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  Speaker 2: say you, I say, public holidaer.
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  Speaker 5: I say many things, obviously, but I say that we
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't be having an extra day off.
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  Speaker 3: We shouldn't be having an extra day off for a
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  Speaker 3: couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, as an employer, many many, many public
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  Speaker 5: holidays in Australia already, I am just saying it's very
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  Speaker 5: difficult to continue consistency for those of us who are
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  Speaker 5: in professional services.
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  Speaker 3: If you're in hospitality, you.
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  Speaker 5: Are looking at one hundred and fifty percent penalty rate
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  Speaker 5: for your staff. One hundred and fifty percent penalty rate.
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  Speaker 5: That's on top of your staff space rate. That's plus
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  Speaker 5: a casual loading if it applies. So what you find
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  Speaker 5: is a lot of cafes simply won't open on Monday
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  Speaker 5: rather than pay that extra And in this economic environment,
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  Speaker 5: particularly with all of the other factors going on in
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  Speaker 5: its simply it was an irresponsible decision. I understand why
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  Speaker 5: the young Kevin Bacon made the decision because it was popular.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 5: I've been on record and saying that I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 5: But this was the wrong decision. But the other reason
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  Speaker 5: that I think is more important why we shouldn't be
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  Speaker 5: having that extra day off is because it diminishes the
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  Speaker 5: sanctity of the day itself, it becomes just about another day.
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  Speaker 5: Saturday is already a public holiday in your Southwes.
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  Speaker 3: It's already a public holiday.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it is.
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  Speaker 3: I checked.
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  Speaker 1: I checked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I no, Saturday is genuine generally.
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  Speaker 5: But that's my point, right, My point is it honors
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  Speaker 5: the day and then we go, ah, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: let's just have another day off. It diminishes it. I
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  Speaker 5: feel very strongly about Anzac Day. Go to the dawn service,
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  Speaker 5: I do those things. That's my personal choice. And then
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  Speaker 5: it becomes about something that's transactional and cosmetic and transient,
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  Speaker 5: which is just another day off in the Australian parlor.
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  Speaker 1: And I agree on that point. And I also think
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  Speaker 1: that in this day and age, I wonder has Anzac
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  Speaker 1: Day lost its meaning? And there has been polls before,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the saddest part. There have been polls
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of young people don't actually know what
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  Speaker 1: we do on Anzac Day. They don't understand the meaning.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just absolutely appalling. But I'm also
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  Speaker 1: on the side of business for this, because don't forget,
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  Speaker 1: it's just come off the back of the Easter long
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  Speaker 1: weekend and a number of hospitality groups were actually surveyed
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  Speaker 1: over that Easter long weekend and they said, because they
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  Speaker 1: have to pay their staff double time and a half
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  Speaker 1: because of all the penalty rates, it means that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to pass it on to consumers. So the consumers
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  Speaker 1: in their bill, if you were going to a cafe
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  Speaker 1: or restaurant or a pub on that day, you were
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  Speaker 1: charging an extra one hundred and seventy nine million dollars
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  Speaker 1: basically overall sustainab because they are and in a time
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  Speaker 1: I mean where businesses are doing it tough as it
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  Speaker 1: is energy bills us through the roof cost of living
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  Speaker 1: crisis now of course the fuel crisis. You can't just
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  Speaker 1: keep punishing small businesses like this. And to your point, Gemma,
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  Speaker 1: I do agree, it becomes just another day. I think.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for those of us who do go to
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  Speaker 1: the Dawn service, we pay our respects. We you know,
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  Speaker 1: we thank those who serve for us and continue to
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  Speaker 1: do so. I just think adding another public holiday, what
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  Speaker 1: for Anzac Day is a twenty fifth. It's all has
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  Speaker 1: been the twenty fifth. It shouldn't now be dragged on
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  Speaker 1: for another feuture.
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  Speaker 2: Surely, if you are going to get an extra public
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  Speaker 2: holiday to you know, extend that period and make it
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  Speaker 2: more significant so that you can indeed, you know you
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  Speaker 2: might be able to go away or take some extra
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  Speaker 2: time off work to reflect whatever. Surely Jesus Rising, Jesus
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  Speaker 2: Rising from the Dead and Gallipoli are the two best reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you're not if you're going to take away
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  Speaker 2: a public holiday, take away Cup Day, take away the
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  Speaker 2: stupid Cup Day here was in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Victoria's breaking state.
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  Speaker 2: So sorry I did. It's New South walest Act and
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  Speaker 2: w A are the only jurisdictions that offer the public holder.
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales is changing that, so mens did actually
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  Speaker 2: say that he is going to change that. And currently Victoria, Tasmania,
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  Speaker 2: South Australia, Queensland and the NT they only observe the
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  Speaker 2: April twenty fifth, so if it falls in a weekend,
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  Speaker 2: no extra public holder. I would say again, Victoria show Day,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Cup Day, Grand Final Day, get rid of those.
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  Speaker 2: What about the Queen's Birthday we're.
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  Speaker 1: Going to I don't think there needs to be one
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  Speaker 1: Grand Final Day. I think that's that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: No, but they've got they become true, they've got rid
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  Speaker 2: of the one on, they've got rid of the one
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  Speaker 2: in Louivansai Day, but they've still got the Grand Fire.
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  Speaker 2: They become radio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all trivial.
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  Speaker 5: It becomes we need to have Collingwood Appreciation Day in
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  Speaker 5: Victoria and then I'm okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did have Tide's Day, an official day.
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  Speaker 1: There you go for every scandal that the AFL has,
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  Speaker 1: we have no days enough, we have no days of
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  Speaker 1: Now look, this story to me is truly bafflely. An
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  Speaker 1: Aboriginal woman who wanted a court to hear her trespassing case.
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  Speaker 1: So she has been charged in the past twelve months
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  Speaker 1: with trespass, but she didn't want it to be heard
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  Speaker 1: in a traditional court, your average court that we have
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  Speaker 1: here in Australia. She wanted it to be held on
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  Speaker 1: quote culturally significant land. Would you believe? So this is
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  Speaker 1: Ruth Langford. She fronted a Hobart court on Monday, where
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  Speaker 1: she requested that her charge is related to the anti
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  Speaker 1: Forest Street protest back in twenty twenty five be heard
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  Speaker 1: on country now. Langford had applied for evidence to be
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  Speaker 1: heard at risdon Cove. This is the site of a
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  Speaker 1: massacre of Aboriginal people by British colonialists back in eighteen
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  Speaker 1: o four. Well, you might be shocked to know that
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  Speaker 1: a magistrate has said, n oh, no, she is not
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  Speaker 1: allowed to have her random court case held on some
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  Speaker 1: land that she claims as you know, native native to Aboriginals.
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  Speaker 1: Look seriously that this story actually baffles me. So she'll
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  Speaker 1: face a jury. She'll face the court in July on
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  Speaker 1: this charge. Who does she think that she is?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're a think she's a Yorda order and
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  Speaker 2: Judja warring woman.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is what she yes, this is she came
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  Speaker 1: and we should have some photos of her as well,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, which we'll bring up. But who does
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  Speaker 1: she think that she is? I mean, your average Joe
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  Speaker 1: Blow here she is, Well, yep, so this is a
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  Speaker 1: woman she identifies as Aboriginal. So basically, you know, who
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  Speaker 1: does she think that she is. In the end, your
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  Speaker 1: average Joe Blow who is charged with an offense doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get the option to say, oh, actually, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to court. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go on attend the Perth Magistrate's Court or the
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  Speaker 1: Downing Center. I actually want to go on another random
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  Speaker 1: location in the middle of nowhere for the sake of it.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that this is making a complete ridicule
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  Speaker 1: of the system, and these people think that, oh, they're
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  Speaker 1: allowed to have one rule over everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: Joe's I think that's again, that's the whole point, isn't it,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: that she just pulls this ridiculous stunt. Obviously, no magistrate
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: in the world is going to say, oh, yes, let's
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: just pack up the whole court at however much expense
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: that would be, and we'll just all go to this
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: particular spot. Where did you say, did I just round
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the court?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here is here? Good? All right, great, everyone roll
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: out your picnic mats and court is in session and
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: away you go. I mean, it's just obviously bonkers. It
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: was never ever going to happen, but of course by
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: saying it and doing it, you get a headline out
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: of it. My favorite bit of this, though, is that
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: after the after the request was refused, in what is
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: probably the most predictable outcome, the sun went down this evening,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: she came out and said, it's just another day in
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: the colony. So she's been doubly oppressed. And of course
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: her trespast charge was for a protest on this land.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: And now, of course you know her her oppression, the
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: colonial oppression, has been completed.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Well she also called it the colonial court. Well what
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: does that mean? I mean that colonial needs.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: To reflect I think, you know, because yes, I mean
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: it's I'm baffled. I wish I could add something meaningful
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: to this particular I.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Can add something meaningful because one argument in favor if
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: it's at Risden Cove, I believe that is the site
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: of the famous Risden prison where Chopper Reid spent a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: few times. You know, if you've got to hang in judge,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: and you know she happens to be found guilty, at
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: least the transportation costs to the prison would be substantially lowess.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So I see a lot of a lot of synergy. There,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of potential red tape.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Tape red tape through. I mean, it's just it just
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. But we hear this time and time again.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Don't the joke aside jokes aside about this.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: You know, we have a pretty good justice system in
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: this country, right and the principle of that justice system
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: is equality, and we know that it's imperfect. But this
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: just takes the proverbial out of the proverbial.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I agree, right, Yeah, helps no one.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. Another thing that helps no one
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: is one nation. Just kidding, guys, I love them trigger
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: anybody you're a secret part right, Look, you know I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: love a one nation. I love a two nations our
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: first nations, second nations, third.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Nation, Italian nation.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But as I have predicted on multiple outlets, it would
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: appear from two poles out today newspole which is the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: most reliable in the country, and also the Resolve political
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: monitor pole that is also fairly good, not one of
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the worst that comes out in the nine newspapers or
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the form of their facts newspapers. Both of these have
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: found that support for one nation has slipped. It is
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: now pretty much for the first time, going backwards instead
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of reaching ever more record highs. You heard it here first,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Do you think that that is?
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Like, I mean, it's one result, right, So I'm more
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: interested in what the next pole says.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: So well, let's get to it will be very interesting.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: The interesting thing I suppose if you're looking at trajectory,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: all the previous poles have gone up and now it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: going down. And you're right, maybe it's just a rogue pole,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: maybe abiration, but we've got, according to the News poll,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Labor on thirty one percent primary, Coalition on twenty one
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: percent primary, one nation on twenty four percent primary. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: there's still ahead of the coalition yep, but down from
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: where they were and almost four times what they got
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the last federal election, less than here, so it's still
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a massive, massive rise. And the Greens, god bless their
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: little heap cotton socks, is thirteen percent one percent, So
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: they've been bouncing around that.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Been bound around between us there since Adam was a board.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: That's right. And again if you wanted to know, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: if you want to say, oh, let's leave another pole,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: if you look at the resolve pole, they had almost
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: identical results. So that suggests that there is something going
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: on here.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Do you not think it was always going to steady?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Like I just didn't think that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I always thought that one nation of it was very soft,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that there would be people who would flirt with it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: They were then once there was more scrutiny was applied
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to one nation. You know, the problem is there's a
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: luxury in being a maverick party in that you don't
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: have to provide solutions. You just have to throw from
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the sidelines. You don't get your own policies scrutinized the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: way the major party parties do, and you know, you
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: don't have to provide workable solutions that are compromises that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: will actually have a chance of getting up. And so
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you can say all these really easy, simplistic things like oh,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: we just need to cut immigration to zero and that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: will solve all our problems.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: And that's the restulet for one nation in this iteration
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: of where it is right, because there's all of this
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: way to be expectation and when that's not or if
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: it's not met, and when it's not met, then then
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: what happens. And as you said, there's a whole clearly
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: a disaffected cohort of Australian voters who are like, hate you,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: hate you, these guys will do. Maybe they're not even
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: expecting fully formed policy. Maybe they're just prepared to sit
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: there and go, I'm going to thumb my nose, pull
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: the middle finger at the other two parties, give my
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: attention here and see what happens.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that one nation comes one of the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: two major parties.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't go on. Earlier on tonight, Pauline Hansen
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: was on with my colleague Andrew Bolt. This is what
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: she said.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I've had a lot of negativity that's thrown at the
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: party in the last couple of weeks. But another thing
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: is that Taylor Angus Taylor Liberal Party released immigration policy
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: that's right out of my playbook, right out of my policies.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: So they've taken a lot of things that I've been
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: saying over years, but the difference between the Liberals and myself,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: they won't deliver it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: A few points on that, I think that obviously maybe
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the vote has taken a bit of a dip dive
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: because of the sex offender saga. This is was involving
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Sean Black. I don't doubt that that that, And to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: be honest, the Liberal Party really dredged this one out.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They were really pushing for it, So no doubt too.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I actually do agree with Pauline Hanson in regards to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the immigration policy because obviously this shows that it is
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: resonating and it is great to finally see that the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: coalition did release that policy. Based on a value system,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: A number would be really good. But I think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that's what a lot of conservative voters were waiting for,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and that's why many of them drifted over to one
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: nation because they wanted that. But if you just look
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: at the resolve pole though, right, So if you've got
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: one nation's on twenty four percent, the coalition is still
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: not a primary vote of twenty one percent. So let's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: let's not get ahead of ourselves here. And that's the Sorry,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: this is a news poll. Sorry, I mean I'm talking
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: about the newspole. Actually, sorry, if we can bring the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: other one up right, you know, the coalition is still
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: below one nation, so it's sure I understand that one
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: nation has dipped slightly. The other point that I will
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: make in the resolve poll the preferred prime inn a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: st Anthony Abernez. He was at thirty three percent. Taylor
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was at thirty two. You'd think that Angus Taylor would
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: be very very happy with that, given that he was
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: only put into that position back in February, and to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have climbed that much ground since the last resolve of Poul,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: which showed Susan Lee was a lot lower, you would
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: think that this would be a good takeaway for the coalition.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Can I just say I'm old enough to remember as
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: a very young journalist.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: With big shoulder pads and massive hair in Perfy not
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: a long time ago.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I'm old enough to remember doing a doorstop with the
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: then newly re elected Lazarus Rising John Howard, who was
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: re elected to being the position of the then federal opposition.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Later.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I think we look at these things and we look
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: at them as a moment of time. And you and
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I were talking about this in the green room before.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have expected the coalition to have had a
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: massive bounce. That's about where I would have expected them
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: to sit at this point, with the changes they've had,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: with the context of the last year to eighteen months,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have expected Angus Taylor to be doing any
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: better than he's currently doing. There are those who say, oh, well,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: he's not doing this, and he's not doing that. He's
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: doing exactly what some one like me would expect him
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: to be doing at this point. And I think the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: problem becomes with this analysis stuff is when we don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: sit back, look at it in context and go, yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: that's about right, rather than expecting, oh my god, we've
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: got a new leader of the opposition. Why aren't they
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: leading in the polls?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: This doesn't work like that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: No. I also think I also need like we still like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: look how well One Nation did in South Australia as well.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that we can just say, oh, well,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: they're passed their peak. And I don't see that Australian
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: election was only a couple of weeks ago. And let's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: wait to see what happens at Fara in Farah. Let's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: let's wait and see what happens in.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: That they make it up. But they may pick up
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: far because they've got a really really good candidate there
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and they're running a really really slick campaign. But again,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: if you look at South Australia, they pulled very very
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: high across the board, but that did not translate into
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a huge number of seats.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: That's because of the preferential system in South Australia.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: She is quite unique, right, I know, there's also the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: preferential system here that will stop them from getting out
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: if the major parties won. And this is exactly what
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: happened last time around. And Pauline Hanson had the exact
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: same excuit. She said, John Howard just stole on my policies.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So last time One Nation looked like the next big thing,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: John Howard, did you know Ratchet up the anti immigration
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and a crackdown on immigration and borders, and he was
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the beneficiary of that, and there was obviously a deal
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to one nation last and basically Pauline Hanson got consigned
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to the flames that is Australian democracy. And I think
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: something pretty similar to that, not exactly the same, will
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: happen this summer. And I think you've got a perfect.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: About Labor in the Greens though, like I'm just so,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Labour needs to put the Greens on the scrap peap
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: of Austraia.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: They need to well, look, they never will, let's be honest.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And just to that point though, I think we also
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: have to remember there is a blueprint for how this
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: has gone over in the UK via Reform UK and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Nigel Farag. Nigel Faraj has taken Reform from a party
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: that was just simply a protest party to one which
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: could possibly form government. And obviously it's very different over
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: here with one nation. But the point is is that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that is a blueprint of somebody who has stood out there,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: stood by their morals. And let's be honest, Pauline Hanson
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: has stood by her moral you know what she stands
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: or she has said the same thing about immigration in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this country since she was elected to the parliament back.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: In the years. The Australian electoral of the system just
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: does not work that way. And this is what it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: very important for people to understand. If you look at
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: this and say Reform could be the next government of
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the UK, and it may well be.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: They'm over there. I get that, But I've been talking
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: about in terms of a party of this. You know
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that the Protest Party, right, Look how well Reform has done.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. But again the structure, the structure of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the voting system means. Firstly, we have compulsory voting, so
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in the UK and the US you have to be
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: really energized about politics to go out and vote, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that means that you are more likely to go out
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and vote if you're really angry about something or upset
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: about something or worried about something. That favors people like
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, it favors people like Nigel Farage. The second
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: thing is, of course they don't have preferences in the UK,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: so all Reform has to do is get ahead of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the Tories and Labor in any particular Burrow and they
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and they win that seat, right in the in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: in the in Australia, and we've seen this happen all
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the time in three corner contests or four corner contests
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: as we're seeing in Parah. You can be the number
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: one on primary vace AM. But as those preferences as
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: each party gets knocked out and their preferences flow to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: somebody else, if those people aren't then preferencing you, then
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you are not going to win. And I can't imagine
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who are one nation supporters,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: but put a one in someone else's box. Oh yeah,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to one. I agree, I agree, two for
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: one nation. We're voting one for one. Yes, you're voting
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: for one nation. Yeah, you're putting a one in their box.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I agree with that?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Is it? And so they will not pick up all
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: those preferences.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: No, look, I totally agree with that. Well look let's
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: go overseas now to Italy. The Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I have to say over there is really setting the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: standard for the world and how to deal with illegal immigration. Hello,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Ki Stama, you could probably learn a lot from the Italians,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: would you believe? Now she is Italian Italian immigration lawyers
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that she will give them bonuses of about one one
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: thousand Australian dollars if they were to send their clients
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: back home, if they were successful enough in turning them
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: around and saying, well, go back to where they came from. Now,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: this is a fascinating proposal when you think about. It's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: been called a wild West bounty. I mean really, it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a repatriation scheme that has been contained in a government
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: security bill which has just been approved in the Senate
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and it's due to be debated in the lower House
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of Parliament. Over in Italy, I say good on her,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: well done. Thank you Georgia Maloney for saying no, enough
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is enough now. Georgia Maloney has been very very strong
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: on immigration. Depends on how you ask. If you ask
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: some of my Italian relatives over Italy, I don't know
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: about yours, Jera, they'll say no. But for example, she
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: was instrumental in a couple of weeks ago in convincing
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the EU to implement African asylum blocks. They're whatever the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: deputation hubs, basically whereby asylum seekers would be held over
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: in Africa before they come. So already she has been
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in ttrumental and saying, yet the EU needs to rid
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: itself of asylum seekers. They've also got in Italy a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: deal with Albania for something similar, and she's been strong,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and she's been deporting imams who spew hatred in the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: middle of the piazzas there. She's been very strong and saying, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: buger off, go back to your country. I'm all for this.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I say, good on you. I think it's great.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I just got back from Italy ten days ago, so
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: have some really useful context. But more importantly, it's really
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: important for Australians to understand the context in which she
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: was elected. I again, just by chance. I was initially
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: when she was elected. It was the first time i'd
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: been back after COVID, and there was a policy at
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: the time where if you turned up, if you were
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: a migrant or an asylum seeker and you set foot
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: on Italian soil, usually it's in Lumpeuso in the south
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: in Sicily, very close to the closest part to sort
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: of North Africa. If you landed, that's it, you're there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: You get government support. You don't have to prove your identity.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: You have to prove anything. You literally are on terraf
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: and you are golden. And that was a big problem.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: That was the primary wave on which Maloney's government was elected.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: It wasn't as many people said to me at the time.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not anti immigration. I am anti mass, uncharted, unfettered immigration.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And that's what Italy had.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: And for those of us who live in Australia, where
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: in Ireland, we know that thousands of people have lost
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: their lives trying to get here, but we don't have
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: that problem.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: We don't have any.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Concept of what it's like to have your borders so
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: vulnerable to a vast cohort of people coming with no
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: intent to work, no intent to have themselves put through
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: anything resembling an immigration process. One of my cousins said
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: to me, I don't mind helping people, but I'm an
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Italian taxpayer. I was born here. I don't get any
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: financial support to single mother. Why should somebody who has
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: rocked up on a boat and doesn't want to contribute
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: get paid to stay at home? Because that was the situation.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: So if you're looking to wonder why Maloney's policies are
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: so popular, because she inherited such an ungodly you were
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: show of a problem. So it was a big mountain
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: to climb this policy, let's call it bold.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: But she's popular and I.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Know outside the box.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people are talking.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: About this devastating referendum defeat. It was nothing of the sort.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: It's no more devastating to Maloney's popularity than the Voice
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: was to Albanese's popularity. It was a highly technical, highly
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: technical referendum that was defeated because referenders rarely get up
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: and that applies to other countries, not just Australia. So look,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: my view is that she'll get away with it because
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: she is a rock star in that country, because she's
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: actually delivering on what she says she does, and she
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: does it, you know, in a way.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: That you don't underestimate a Roman woman.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I think the telling thing is that Australia did get
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a taste of what that was like in the early
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: two thousands, and of course we had the Tampa. The Tampa.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I think John how we were talking about Paul and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Hansenbooneeah and Howard absolutely threaded the needle. Australian's hate uncharted
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: undocumented unknown asylum seekers rocking up on their shores and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: when that all died down. The boats had been stopped,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and Kevin Rudd was elected and thought, oh, everyone's calmed
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: down about that. Now we can just go back to
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: being a nice, you know, touchy feely, open door, humane country.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: As soon as those boats started again, immediately it was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: disaster for the government. And of course the Prime Minister
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: lost his lost his head over there, and plenty of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: other issues. So I think the left is its own
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: worst enemy when it says, hey, come on in, guys,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you know, like the weather's fine, you know, one in
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: all in and like people hate poorest borders, they hate
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: open borders, and that includes lots of working people who
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: feel like this is undermining their value as as laborers
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and employees.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's not like what I've really loved about
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: the immigration debate since you know whoever's policy was Angus
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Taylor's policy about venues, it should be about is my
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: dad rocked up here on a boat as a ten
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: year old boy. My non are rocked up a woman
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: in her mid twenties, I hadn't seen her husband in
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: two years, ready.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: To make a new life. Her intent was to be Australian.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Just quick question, though, how do you pay a lawyer
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to advise their client against their clients.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I think if they successfully do it, then they
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: get their bonus.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Are you not legally bound to act in your client's interest?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe they argue.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know the answer to this, but maybe
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: their argument is, look, actually it's in your best interest
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: to go back.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Then they would be telling them that without the thousand
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: dollars bribe, that's true.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Actually that's a very good point history. But I feel
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: like I feel like in Italy you would get away
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: with this because there are no rules. Nobody ever follows
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: any rules.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you about my lost baggage one for another.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Nobody ever ever follows rules. Now, speaking of following rules,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the UK Prime Minister Kirstarmo, who, let's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: be honest, is a dead.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Man, isn't it? Isn't it?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: As Peter Mandlson's scandal gets worse and worse, So, of course,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Peter Manderson was appointed the US ambassador by Kirs Starmer himself,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that Kir Starmer knew that Peter Mandelsson
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: had links to the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Well, boy,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is it getting worse for him? Keir Starmer was warned
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: about the red flags that led to Lord Mandelsson failing
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: his developed vetting security clearance. This is according to the Telegraph.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And in the next couple of hours we are expecting
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to hear from Kiyo Starmer, who's going to stand up
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: in the Commons and he's going to try and give
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: his version of events something to look forward to. Now
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: this is really incredible stuff. The VVP now Sky News
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: over in the UK has obtained documents and this is
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: now particularly getting worse. There is a letter from the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: then Cabinet Secretary, this is Lord Simon Case setting out
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the process of an appointment. The top civil servant wrote
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister. Then he said, quote and we'll
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: bring that up. You should give us the name of
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the person you would like to appoint and we will
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: develop a plan for them to acquire the necessary security
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: clearances and due diligence on any potential conflict of interest
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or other issues of which you should be aware before
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: confirming your choice. So the timeline Starma announced that Mandalson
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: was going to be the ambassador before the vetting has cleared.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And now you had that we've just found out that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: there was this warning from this former Labor staffer. There
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: were also warnings about Mandalsson from Labor MPs at the time,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: to all of which kirs Starmer has ignored. I mean,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: surely he doesn't survive the end of the week.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think there's so many things that could stop kir
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Starmer from surviving.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: That you never know process which it could be.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean often it is the little
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: things that get you, and the fact that he's already
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: had to get rid of Sir Ollie Robins. There all sirs,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the former Foreign Office chief who he has like lots
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: of people in his own staff as well. Sooner or later,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: if you start just rolling heads out hoping that you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: know that will be enough to keep the crowd at
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: bay and the bloodlust will be saciated, sooner I find
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: you run out of heads and yours is the only
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: one left to put on a pike.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: So he hasn't worked out he's the prime Minister and
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: these accountabilities actually fall to him.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I've never seen a political leader so hopelessly insipid, and I.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Think I'm in the use of the weird leader.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Part of the problem is I think that he is
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: a moderate, but the party is still so riven by
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the dirty little Korbinista trots that he is scared to.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I was him, I just put my
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: proverbial on the chopping block and go out and say, right, well,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: this is what we're doing, and we're doing and if
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you want to roll me, roll me, because he's not
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: going to last, by the way down some but.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: He's not going to last. I mean, he's been an
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: absolute flop over this, the Iran war situation. The guy
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: is a dithering, blood blubbering mess now back home. He's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: been pinned, pinned for this Mandlsson saga. I don't know
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: how much longer he can possibly. He's weak, the vibe
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: he is weak, you know, speaking of.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Him, Actually, I think you'll find that we've calculated the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: necessary trajectorys and there's a lot of by the necessary steps,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I facilitate further weaknesses in consultation with allies in separate parts.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, not bad, not too bad, Joe. We'll give you,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: we'll give you a couple of pointers with that. Stay tuned.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, will take a look at
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's front pages. We're going to be talking about Jim
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Chalmers stag do. What's that all about? Find out next?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Let's take a look at
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's front pages. What is doing the rounds? In the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Australian The headline there Chalmers stag do. Okay, that's a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: bit of a teaser where no one leaves unscathed. The
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Australian economy has become hostage to the war in Iran,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with stagflation baked in, rising risks of fuel rationing, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the worst pre crisis fiscal position of any recent global shock,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: pushing the alban Eazy government into a rethink of its
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: savings and spending priorities for the May budget. Surprise surprise,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers said on Monday, after returning from meetings in
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Washington that the government had changed its budget savings plans
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: as negotiations on opening the straight of Haull Moves and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a substantiative around wall cease fire remained fragile. Well, I mean,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: this is what we've been predicting for weeks, hasn't it?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Surprise surprise? It's very easy, isn't it for Jim Chalmers
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to blame America for the fact that he's spending has
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: absolutely sent us broken backwards. Of course, inflation was rising
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: before the war began. But jem, you can see where
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: this is going, can't you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's nobody wants the war and nobody
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: wants to, you know, to be hostage to those you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: domino effects. But the reality is, as you said, government
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: spending out of control. Ondisciplined government spending has been putting
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: up put pleasure in inflation for a very long time.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: The RBA has said it, any economist worth listening to
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: has said it. And yet you know our treasurer, who
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: has a PhD in Paul Keating.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I like to remind people. I like to remind people.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Guy who's running the books of this country has never
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: run a bitines, it's never overseen a P and L
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: and has an arts degree, which I also have. But
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: I also have two decades in the real economy. This
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: bloke is not taking responsibility for his fiscal policies which
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: involve undisciplined spending, which have sent inflation sky high, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: now he's trying to hide behind a war. I have
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: empathy for the federal government because they didn't ask for this,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: But if the economy had been in a stronger position prior.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: If they had been more fiscally responsible prior, we would.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Be in a better position as a nation to manage this.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I think that the problem is that you
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: can say, yes, the government was spending too much and
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that was driving inflation up, right, that's the fact. The
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: problem is, though, that inflation is a very different beast
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to stagflation. So if you've got inflation, that means it's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: because the economy is running too hot, and it's running
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: too hot because the government's spending too much money. That
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: means there's too much demand. That means that providers can
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: put up prices because there's so much demand for them,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and it also means that the private sector isn't incentivized
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: to be more production.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: There's also the pridence the productivity problem can courr so
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: there's not enough productivity to meet the demand for the
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: government that the government wants if it's the government spending
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: all the money or the rest of us.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And therefore the prices go up because you can't make
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: more of the stuff.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: The difference between inflation and stagflation is that stagflation is
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: what happens when inflation goes up, but it's not caused
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: by an economy running hot, it's not caused by too
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: much demand. It's caused by external factors which are forcing
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: prices up even though this is not being driven by
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: supply and demand.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And that means the problem is, Joe, is that we
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: can see where this is going though, can't we?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I mean normal inflation. The RBA would fix it by
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: dropping interest rates to suppress the economic activity, but it
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: can't do it with you.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean in the end, but I think
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that Jim Charmers has a lot to blame for the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: state of this economy right now. But you know, it's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: very easy to blame, to blame over.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I think my problem.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Accountability from daynight, right and starting from behind the eight
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: balls this situation.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's I also have a look at this.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: NDIS won't survive four hundred thousand dollars living costs. The
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: architect of Australia's disability housing system has warned that the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: NDIS will not survive if the government continues to offer
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: participants individualized packages in boutiqu accommodation worth an average of
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars per person. In a dramatic call
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: for a reform that would save taxpayers ten billion dollars
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a year. That we talk a lot about the NDIS.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: It's an absolute behemoth of esteem, isn't it. And it
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is sad because it was designed for the most severely disabled,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: as it should be, and it has blown out of proportion.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: And they got every man and their dog coming out saying, well,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you know the NDIS won't survive. Maybe it does need
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: a complete rething from start to bottom.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It absolutely does, and it needs to be completely overhall.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: The first thing you've got to do is get rid
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of all the shunks and the spivs who are just
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: exploiting it to make money. The service providers who are
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: going around saying, hey, I know you don't necessarily need this.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: We know you can get all this stuffs. Other problem.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: So you're getting service providers who are st and I
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: know this intimately unfortunately, who would just say hey, did
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you know you can get all this stuff on the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: NDIS And the pole client's going, oh, I didn't even
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: think of that before, but gee, if you can get
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it for me, yeah I will. Then you've got, of course,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: all the shunks and the spirits. We're just outright dodgy,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and there's been plenty of that. And then of course
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: you've got people who are going out and getting a
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: diagnosis for a specific condition, knowing that if they get
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that diagnosis, they'll be eligible for NDIS, and therefore you
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: have this huge of overdiagnosed of secondity. Anyway, finally we're
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in charge. He off to a courier mail now and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: we're talking about skyrocketing prices and unfortunately the news does
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: not get much better. Ruling sparks prices. Alarm says the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: splash by Ellen Ramsley win for truckies means everything costs more.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm going the trucks are doing all right, Love
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: me at Kenworth, love me a big rig. But unfortunately
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: their win is our loss. Consumers can expect to pay
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: more at the checkout after a landmark order requiring Australia's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: largest retailers and supermarket chains to compensate truck drivers for
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: spiraling fuel prices. Economists saw s like said supermarkets would
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: pass on the increased costs to consumers and there would
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: be very little competitive pressure to stop them doing so. So,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: in other words, they can't squeeze the truck drivers and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: say no, we're not going to pay you for your
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: extra costs, and therefore they will have to pay those costs,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and therefore they will pass those costs on to the consumer.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: So oh, it is a worry. I mean, it is
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a worry. Where it's going.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's a big worry. The other big story on the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: front page is Rebel called a bully in court by
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Daniel Cooper, great bloke. Rebel Wilson took out defamation insurance
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: RW days before she made a series of posts allegedly
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: slagging off quote unquote Charlotte McGinnis, the star of her
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: directorial debut film, A court has heard. The Hollywood star
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: came face to face with the Guinness yesterday, the first
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: day of a star studded federal court defamation case.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Guinness's barrister, Sue chrisanthw SC branded Wilson a bully drum
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: quite unquoteose words, not.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Mine, Whi's good in pitch perfect but not gonna lie
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: but that was it perfect. Number three was my favorite
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: John Lithgow as an Australian controversial, very very good.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: The Herald's Son front page of The Herald Son.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: This story, fair to say, has captivated all of Australia.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Obviously the tragedy of the murdered police officers, but this
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Desi Freeman, now confirmed to be dead, obviously shot dead
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: by police as they found his hiding place. The Herald
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Sun mad slash splash here at the front. First photos
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: inside Desi's lair, bullet holes, dry cleaning, ug boots, dry
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: cleaning is weird, ug boots and health supplements secret hide
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: out where evil cop killer spent final days. We've got
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: some pictures up there right now about just the state
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: of the join. And I don't know about you guys,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: but when I, you know, when I heard on the
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: on the news that day that he'd been shot dead
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: by police and they'd found his lair, it sort of
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: looks like I imagined it to look.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: There was also reports of the you know, empty booze
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: bottles outside of the I want to call it a doner.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: It's a sea container, isn't it? But West Australians call
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: it a We don't know what a donnar is. A
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: dong is a sea container in wa Paalance.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Do you call domas sea containers?
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: We call them call the dogs. Yeah, the dog. See
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: you've all been educated.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Hello, to our West Australian audience, all of whom know
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: what a doner is so absolutely fascinating. Yarn there, and
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: even though you know mister Freeman is no longer with
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: us and there is still a lot to play out there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I just don't think the Australian appetite for that story
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: is going anywhere.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm with you all the way. Before we
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: go to a break, let's have a look at the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Canberra Times. Assembly loses its activist Shane Rattonbree says he'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: still be an activist of some form after the Act
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Greens later announced his retirement from politics. Public life does
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: take its toll, he said he's left. He was he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: was most proud of his party's push rather for action
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: on climate change. It's the reason why I'm in politics.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Well really that's the reason.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: What else? But I feel like the Greens moved on
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: from the I'm of climate chat. They're into all sorts.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Of an incredible legacy though. I mean, he creates star Trek,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: then serves seventeen years in the Act Legis of Assembly.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you, mister h Yeah, cheers mister Ruttenbury. We really
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: appreciate your service. A good one. We are going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: take a quick break. Coming up, the robots are coming
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: for us. No, really they are. In fact, they're beating
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: everyday people at a half marathon in China. That's next.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, they say there's a bear in there,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: but Joe, apparently we shouldn't be poking that bear.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Look, I love bears Night, Janika. There's not a bears
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: night in this country that I haven't attended to. But
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: apparently there is a bears Night in America that I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: missed out on. A lot of people think that Americans
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: aren't the sharpest tools in the proverbial shed, but I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: think this story finally puts those doubters to rest. And
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to try to explain this. Right. A
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: bunch of guys got dressed up as bear and then
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: pretended to attack their own cars, including a Rolls Royce
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Ghost twenty ten Rolls Royce Ghost. That was a good
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: year for the ghost. I don't know if chicks know
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: anything about cars, but trust me, it's good year as
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: part of an insurance scam. And to make it even
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: more believable, because the insurance, you know, the insurance company
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: is going to Sorry, what now, your Rolls Royce. Was
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: it was damaged by a bear? Was it? They said, yes?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And you know what, we've got the proof. They actually
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: took video of one of them dressed as a bear
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: attacking the Rolls Royce. Right, and here your edification is
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: the bear costume? Wow that they wore.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: That's amazing to attack I mean their own cars.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd love to see a picture of them what
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it looked like on because to me it looks well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you know that that looks fake and stupid,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, I look at that.
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  Speaker 2: It looks dumb for me, Humphrey Bee looks more realistically.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's it's not great. It's not great, but
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it just goes to show you can scam
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: anyone these days, Joe, isn't it?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that's right. And look and while I may have
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: unfairly implied that perhaps Americans were not you know, particularly
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't really think no steps ahead, but
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  Speaker 2: our masters of understatement it said, it turned out that
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: the Earth sign figure video was in fact a human.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Well, who would have thought, shoa, who would have thought, well,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you know what else's shokharr in this country? Seagulls. I mean,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: we're used to it, aren't we. We know it's the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: quintessential thing. You're having a chip and in that bird flies.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: But you they were out in force of the A
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: League over the weekend. Have a look at this, just
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  Speaker 1: get that one step closer.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: To winning the league involved? But who is and victory dude?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Just enough. It's like a day out on Newcastle Harbor.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's extraordinary. Isn't it actually disrupted play there?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Clearly this guy was trying to get a free kick
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: he couldn't even see. That was just pretty bad, Gemma.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it not a chip in sight?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: But the handballs either, which was good.
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  Speaker 5: To know exactly And a smooth segue into the story
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  Speaker 5: that breaks me Because I have run two half marathons,
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: people might not look at me and go, wow, there's
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: an athletic woman.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: I was very slow, unlike these robots who competed in
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: a half marathon race in Beijing on Sunday with the
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: fastest machine leaving its.
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  Speaker 3: Human rivals to does check this out.
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  Speaker 5: The winning robot, Lightning, finish the race in fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 5: and twenty six seconds. That's twenty two kilometers run in
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: fifteen minutes and twenty six seconds. Uganda's Jacob kip Limo
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  Speaker 5: holds the men's half marathon world record fifty seven minutes
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  Speaker 5: and twenty seconds, and around forty percent of the robots
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  Speaker 5: raced autonomously. All I can say is the robots are here.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: The robots are here.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Look at that. I mean, the rules are I mean
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that they're coming for us. They are literally coming for us.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: The fact that they're now outpacing us, that is a
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: real problem. What's next? They're going to be holding guns,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: run a race for me? Yea, well, I mean that's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a good point. Good to have you both on. Thank
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you very much, Thank you for your company, stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next it's the readA Panahe Show. Good Night,