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- 0:00Welcome to the Downing Arts Podcast.
- 0:05The sun is shining and there are definite signs of spring beginning to emerge
- 0:09around college. It's been a fruitful week for arts related activities too with the chapel
- 0:13choir's visit to Ely Cathedral and the opening of the new exhibition in the gallery.
- 0:19Here with me in the studio today is third year computer scientist Brian Abykaram.
- 0:23Welcome, Brian. Hello, Louisa. You've obviously been at Downing for roughly
- 0:28two and a half years. Um, how's it been? Busy. Busy, I would say
- 0:32both in ways and bad ways. It's been really interesting, I think.
- 0:36So. I mean, you're obviously doing computer science, which must be quite full on,
- 0:40that is. Yeah, it's quite an intense course, I would say,
- 0:43but loads of stuff to look at. Always really interesting.
- 0:47And you know, on this on the side I sort of. I enjoy a couple
- 0:51other things. I'm in the choir. That's good fun and.
- 0:53Yeah. Anything else? Well,
- 0:57I do, I do, I do sort of enjoy a bit of photography as well.
- 1:01I think the choir quite likes that for me. You know, I'm quite popular
- 1:05in the choir for the photos. You've ended up doing a lot of stuff actually.
- 1:08I know we're always asking you to do choir stuff and I know music society,
- 1:12you've done lots of stuff for them and possibly the dramatic society.
- 1:16Yeah, there's a lot of stuff there as well. Yeah, I know it's. So do
- 1:19you find that being creative in that way is a good kind of foil to
- 1:23your scientific things that you're doing? Yeah, it's sort of,
- 1:27it's almost, it's not entirely separate at the same time.
- 1:30It's a good way of sort of getting distracted and I think it goes hand
- 1:34in hand with choir in that respect. But yeah, it's a sort of way to
- 1:37disconnect and just think about colors and beautiful things and creative
- 1:41compositions and such. But you also do have to think in a sort of technical
- 1:45way of, you know, how is this actually going to work? Is this going to
- 1:49be too bright? Is this going to be too dark? Is this. So there's always
- 1:51a bit of overlap, which I think is quite fun. And I know on Quietor
- 1:55you're sort of. When was it two years ago or something, you discovered there were
- 1:59multiple cameras on sale at the airport and we had to sort of physically restrain
- 2:02you from spending all your money. Yeah, that was
- 2:06really fun. So, yeah, you have a bit of a reputation for
- 2:11always having at least three cameras about your person.
- 2:13Yes, that's correct. How do you decide what to use for
- 2:17which occasion and so on. Yeah, I mean,
- 2:20that's a really, really interesting question. I think with cameras especially,
- 2:25and you might find this, with a lot of other things, is there's many different
- 2:29situations in which you can use cameras and all these cameras
- 2:33can sort of do things very well and you find that no camera
- 2:37can really do everything, so you sort of want to cover all your bases.
- 2:41And that's why I have, like, all the different cameras. So I think with me
- 2:45especially, there's. There's a sort of different range of cameras
- 2:49that I do carry around. So I've sort of got my main. Currently now,
- 2:53it's a. It's a mirrorless camera. So that is sort of the one that you
- 2:56see me around a lot, all the time. So it is very versatile.
- 3:00It's probably the most powerful, most versatile camera that I own. But then
- 3:04you've got other things. You've got small digicams, which are obviously much, much more
- 3:08comfortable, much more portable. Sorry. Because they're tiny and,
- 3:12you know, they have a different aesthetic. They produce photos that are sort
- 3:17of more nostalgic. They sort of reminisce about the early, early noughties.
- 3:21So that's always good fun. So it's not only just a practical choice,
- 3:25it's also sort of creative aesthetic choice. You can sort of
- 3:29pick cameras that make different kinds of photos. I think one of the big ones
- 3:33is nowadays is film. I think a lot of people will sort of pick
- 3:37film for the aesthetic because it's definitely not practical and
- 3:42I think I've done that as well. So I always like to carry around sort
- 3:45of both a digital and a film camera just to get both sides of the
- 3:48coin. How did you get into it in the first place? I guess I've always
- 3:52sort of like. I mean, everyone likes taking a good photo. You know, you sort
- 3:56of stop there at the train station and you go, wow, that looks pretty.
- 4:00And so it's sort of like. It begs the question, when do you actually become
- 4:04into it? When do you become a photographer? I think for me,
- 4:08that sort of happened at the end of my A levels.
- 4:11So my mum had this camera.
- 4:14She had this. She's. She's a dentist and she
- 4:18has this camera that she uses for taking photographs of people's teeth.
- 4:22She's got quite a nice lens that comes with that and at
- 4:25the time she wasn't really using it very much. And I sort of went,
- 4:29I quite like to have a go with that. And so this was like a
- 4:32dslr, so sort of a Proper camera is many
- 4:35people would call it. So I sort of experimented with that a lot,
- 4:38had a lot of fun, because I think the thing with
- 4:42those DSLR cameras is they expose a lot of the sort of manual
- 4:46aspect of how you're meant to like or how you. How you take photos.
- 4:49Whereas with your phone camera, it sort of does everything automatically and it pumps
- 4:53out a photo at the end. So I experimented a lot with that.
- 4:58And I think the first sort of big thing was I took it on holiday.
- 5:01I mean, that's fantastic. You know, taking a camera on holiday and just sort of
- 5:05focusing on taking photos is really fun. So I guess that was the sort
- 5:09of big event where I'd say after that, I actually really do
- 5:13like taking photos. And it sort of continued on. So throughout my first
- 5:17year. I didn't really take many photos in my first term. But slowly,
- 5:21slowly I'd sort of like, you know, walk around college, take some photos.
- 5:25It's a very pretty place, Cambridge. So there's always sort of opportunities to
- 5:29test out cameras and stuff. And then I would also. I also at this
- 5:33point started taking the camera to, like, events, social events.
- 5:37You know, we had the Carol service in first year. That was a big
- 5:41one. And sort of people would go, oh, take a photo, take a photo.
- 5:43And they'd come out really nice. People would love them. So that was, I think,
- 5:47another big factor in the kind of work that I did just photographing.
- 5:51And I remember when we. I think it was the America tour a couple years
- 5:55ago that you had a. Was it a mishap with the film camera? And all
- 5:59the pictures came out sort of psychedelic or something. So I did have some film
- 6:04and this is actually quite interesting. So I had some.
- 6:07For those who know about it, it was a Harmon Phoenix,
- 6:11this film called Harmon Phoenix. And Harmon Phoenix is a very interesting
- 6:16film because sort of with the end of the film era,
- 6:19you know, as digital cameras take over, a lot of the smaller
- 6:24companies that did make film, or, well, I would call them small, but a lot
- 6:28of companies that did make film sort of pivoted away from mainstream sort of
- 6:31color films. And in the end, really, it's only sort of Fujifilm
- 6:36in Japan and Kodak in America that make color film
- 6:39anymore. And a lot of the smaller companies that you have nowadays that make film
- 6:43will usually stick with black and white film. I guess that's
- 6:47just because you have a smaller market for film nowadays, even though
- 6:51it's having a little bit of resurgence. But regardless,
- 6:54Harmon Phoenix is a really interesting film because it's
- 6:58Actually British made. So there's this company here, this factory called
- 7:02Ilford photo and they primarily focus on black and white film. They make some
- 7:06really fantastic black and white film. But Harmon Phoenix is an experiment
- 7:10they did a few years ago trying to make a color film emulsion.
- 7:13So this is a sort of. They bring out a new formula to make color
- 7:17film from scratch because it's such a new thing and it was sort of an
- 7:20experiment. It ends up looking really, really interesting. So you sort of get
- 7:24very like cyan y blues and very harsh reds and oranges.
- 7:28And so I guess the photos that were at the pool,
- 7:31because they were taken with Harmon Phoenix, the blues looked
- 7:35very sort of saturated cyan. People's faces turn sort of very orangey red
- 7:40and the grass turns this sort of orange hue. So it's really interesting.
- 7:44That is probably one of the most interesting films I've ever used. And they
- 7:49brought out a new version. So I think it's Harmon Phoenix 2. So that
- 7:52one's a little less sort of insulting the formula.
- 7:57Yeah. Wow. Gosh. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember.
- 8:01That was all very exciting when it happened. I guess you're graduating this year,
- 8:06next term, in fact. That's true, that's true. So, I mean, I don't
- 8:09know what, I don't know what plans you have for post Cambridge, but is photography
- 8:13something that you're going to continue with? I think so. I think,
- 8:17at least for me, I sort of lead
- 8:212 sort of very double lives in photography where I do have my professional.
- 8:25Well, maybe not professional. Well, I guess if you're doing it as a job,
- 8:28you could call it professional. Do you think I'll leave that professional bit behind?
- 8:31So, of course I did a lot of the dramatic society.
- 8:35I did some stuff here for the adc. There's societies
- 8:39that asked me to take headshots. I've done even a couple
- 8:43times sort of individual photo shoots for couples or.
- 8:47Or for singing groups. And that's been really fun.
- 8:51But I think that's always quite tiring because you're sort of. You're stressed to deliver
- 8:55the products. And while it's been great to earn a buck on the
- 8:58side, I think I sort of enjoy the sort of more casual photography.
- 9:02So I think I'll definitely be carrying that forwards. I think one of my most
- 9:06enjoyable types of photography is holiday photography.
- 9:10And I mean, you've seen that with a lot of the tours that we've done.
- 9:13There's always sort of three, four cameras on my person and I'm running around snapping
- 9:17left Right and center. I think I definitely will continue with that.
- 9:22And that's almost sort of stressful in another way because holidays are
- 9:27fast paced enough and now you're trying to throw in a bunch of photo
- 9:31taking. But I think it's really important to sort of capture the moment. And you
- 9:34do get to see some really interesting things that you wouldn't normally see. And you
- 9:38can maybe try and paint those in a different light to what maybe you see
- 9:42online. Do you have a favorite type of photo? Do you like landscapes? Or do
- 9:46you prefer people or what's your favorite thing to do?
- 9:50To do? I think one of my recurring favorites is sort
- 9:54of church cathedral photography. I think it's one
- 9:58bit of photography that I'd really like to sort of eke out and
- 10:02geek out about because I haven't really properly done it. It's sort
- 10:06of quite difficult to get photographs in a chapel or a, or a cathedral
- 10:10or whatever because you sort of, you're in a tough situation sort of lighting
- 10:14wise. And I mean, ideally you'd sort of have a license to bring in a
- 10:18tripod and you sit around all day and just click buttons and tweak settings.
- 10:22All the sort of amazing features of the cathedral really pop out in the
- 10:26photo. I think there's such intricate architecture that you really want
- 10:30to try and capture. And it's really interesting to see the disparity,
- 10:34or not the disparity, but the difference between different buildings, different cathedrals.
- 10:38Because they all sort of have the same, similar structure, right? There's always the sort
- 10:41of the shape of the cross and you shoot down the middle and that's sort
- 10:44of a formula you follow. But you do see a lot of differences. Maybe you
- 10:48have some little small chapels and they can have really good, really pretty artwork
- 10:52or really like stained glass. And I saw this in
- 10:56France, I saw this in Italy. I think Italy is really, if you love taking
- 11:00photos of churches, chapels, cathedrals, Italy is
- 11:04your dream. I really enjoyed Rome when I went, and Bologna was
- 11:08particularly fantastic too. So, yeah, I think that's probably one of the most interesting things
- 11:13because you can sort of sit down and just take your time with everything.
- 11:15And it's sort of, you follow this formula, but you also sort of tweak it
- 11:19around and see what's interesting about the place. I think most recently I went to
- 11:23Winchester and Winchester is a very, very pretty cathedral. They have a
- 11:27lot of stained glass and it's sort of this mishmash of
- 11:31this Norman cathedral and this more modern Gothic one. And they have lots
- 11:34of intricate sort of stonework like faces and statues and
- 11:39you can really be very creative with how you capture all of that by,
- 11:42you know, picking longer focal lengths or making everything like really wide being
- 11:47taking really wide shots or focusing onto tiny little details that
- 11:50don't really get catch it normally. Wow. Well,
- 11:54I wish you all the best with the next few months and yeah, beyond Cambridge
- 11:58and I hope that you do manage to find some time to keep up your
- 12:02photography in whichever way you like.
- 12:05Keeping up with it is really quite a tricky thing. Well, I think I've
- 12:08taken quite a few photos of the last year but hardly any of it has
- 12:11gotten out on the socials unfortunately, because that's sort of
- 12:16a whole nother job in itself. Yeah. Takes a lot of time behind the scenes,
- 12:19I realise. Brilliant. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much.
- 12:22All the best.
- 12:28This week in college. Tonight, tomorrow and Saturday,
- 12:32the Freshers play after Juliet is happening in the Howard Theatre.
- 12:35Details on where to get your tickets are in the Show Notes. On Saturday at
- 12:395pm in the Assembly Room, Danny Driver, one of the finest pianists in the
- 12:43world, will be giving a recital alongside student pianists. Tickets are free
- 12:47for Downing members. Details in the Show Notes. On Sunday, the chapel
- 12:51choir sing a Eucharist service including Bird's beautiful four part Mass setting.
- 12:54They'll be singing it again on Tuesday at 6pm when we welcome
- 12:58members of the Catholic Chaplaincy to Downing. Also On Tuesday at 12:30,
- 13:02the curator of the current gallery exhibition, Tudor Contemporary
- 13:06will be giving a short tour in the gallery. Booking not required.
- 13:09Tuesday is a busy day for the gallery. There'll be a life drawing session from
- 13:135 till 7pm Booking essential. See the show Notes. Lots going on.
- 13:17As always, hope to see you at an event. Thanks for listening.