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11-5 H1: What's On Tap, Jason Kanzler Audio & Sam Benched? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Ah yes, well good morning to you all here on
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. It is Chuck in the morning
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  Speaker 1: and you only have to suffer through me one more day.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you guys you'll get Chuck back tomorrow to
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  Speaker 1: close out your week. But we got one more day
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  Speaker 1: of filling in for him as he is finishing up
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  Speaker 1: his vacation here in the last couple days. Anderson Hurst,
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Kidd with you guys here on a busy Thursday show.
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  Speaker 1: We got tons coming up, tons to talk about. But Christopher,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing this morning? Good to hear. Good
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  Speaker 1: to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing good this morning. Doing good. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Doing well. Lots to get to today. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the news about Sam Donald being out against the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday is top of mind. We got lots to
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  Speaker 1: talk about with the Kraken victory last night. We have
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  Speaker 1: lots to ask. Mike Sando at 930. We had the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners managers introductory press conference yesterday, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: start with the Sam Darnold news because, of course, it
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  Speaker 1: happened after our show. So I finished yesterday's show thinking that, OK,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be Sam Darnold again and comes out
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  Speaker 1: that he actually had not only one injury that he
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  Speaker 1: was playing through against the Bears on Monday Night Football,
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  Speaker 1: but two of them. And yes, that would possibly explain
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  Speaker 1: some of his underperformance in that game, but how much
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  Speaker 1: of that is lingering from previous weeks? How much of
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  Speaker 1: it is, say, hey, it's a combination of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're not feeling 100%, plus the offense is struggling, and...
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  Speaker 1: You know, we were actually having a decent amount of
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  Speaker 1: success with Drew Locke. Now, I don't think anyone's advocating
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  Speaker 1: for Drew Locke to be starting, but if you are,
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  Speaker 1: this is your chance to see what he would look like.
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  Speaker 1: And this would be the second straight game that Drew
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  Speaker 1: Locke would face the Arizona Cardinals as his lone start.
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  Speaker 1: So he's had good opportunities to have a soft landing,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak, I should say. So this will be
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  Speaker 1: an interesting kind of thought experiment to see what Drew
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  Speaker 1: Locke looks like against the Arizona Cardinals for the second
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  Speaker 1: time this year. It will be interesting to see how
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  Speaker 1: different the offense looks. I wonder because when we were
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  Speaker 1: having the first couple weeks of the season with Drew
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  Speaker 1: Locke finishing out the New England game and then starting
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  Speaker 1: the Arizona game, The thought process around the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: and Brian Fleury was a lot different than it is now.
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  Speaker 1: It was, hey, this guy had to change his entire
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  Speaker 1: scheme with a backup quarterback coming in. And the offense
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  Speaker 1: looks relatively smooth. And I think most people would come
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  Speaker 1: to that conclusion after watching those. We'll call it two games.
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  Speaker 1: I know Sam Donald started the New England Patriots game.
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  Speaker 1: But he went out after the first series. So it
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  Speaker 1: was Drew Locke's game at that point on and then
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  Speaker 1: the entirety of the Arizona Cardinals game. So it is
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  Speaker 1: interesting that the two games, I think probably the one
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  Speaker 1: of the two games where you feel like the offense
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  Speaker 1: had a ton of success. One of them was the
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals game in week two. And then the other
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  Speaker 1: one was in week seven on Sunday Night Football. against
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. So one of them was Sam
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  Speaker 1: Donald and one of them was Drew Locke. Now, there's
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  Speaker 1: obviously going to be a big contingent of fans that
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  Speaker 1: are going to draw the conclusion that, okay, Sam Donald
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  Speaker 1: was benched for this game. I don't want to necessarily
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  Speaker 1: go there now. I know Mike Florio mentioned it, that
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  Speaker 1: that's what it kind of sounded like on Safi's show yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I would think that
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  Speaker 1: if they wanted to bench Sam Donald, they would come
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  Speaker 1: out and say, we're starting Drew Locke today or next game.
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  Speaker 1: It's his starting job for this game. Instead of coming
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  Speaker 1: out and trying to make an excuse that it's an injury,
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  Speaker 1: I would not see Mike McDonald or John Schneider or
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks as a whole come out and make excuses
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  Speaker 1: for their guys. That's very un-Seahawks for them. So if
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  Speaker 1: there is an injury, and there's obviously a gray area too, right? Where, okay, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we have a guy that's had success.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier this year.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is a little bit banged up. We can
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  Speaker 1: easily just say, hey, he's injured. We're starting Drew Locke
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  Speaker 1: for this game because Sam Darnold is out with an injury.
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  Speaker 1: but then also feel relatively comfortable with that, right? That's
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  Speaker 1: not the same thing as saying, hey, we're benching Sam
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  Speaker 1: Darnold for Drew Locke, right? So that's where I kind
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  Speaker 1: of think it lies, is they feel pretty comfortable with
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  Speaker 1: their backup quarterback, and Sam Darnold has been struggling a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. So, hey, we'll get you a chance to
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  Speaker 1: get right. There's a couple injuries that you're dealing with
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  Speaker 1: right now. I think one of them was the, what
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  Speaker 1: was it, the shin? No, it's a quad.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: And then the the collarbone, I think, was the second injury.
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  Speaker 1: There's just a couple of things that he needs to
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  Speaker 1: deal with. I'm curious. I don't know how long of
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  Speaker 1: a term thing this is for Sam Darnold. If this
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  Speaker 1: is just for this week, because it came out of
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  Speaker 1: kind of nowhere. You had a cracked rib.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cracked rib. OK, sorry. It kind of came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Mike McDonald mentioned this in his postgame show.
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  Speaker 1: post-game press conference right after the game on Monday night.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he was aware at that time. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he found out maybe later on that morning
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  Speaker 4: or the following day.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why they didn't even pull him because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know. Yeah, I guess that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to. But it does raise the question of,
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  Speaker 1: is this kind of a benching situation? Where do you
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  Speaker 1: lie on that, Christopher?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: No? I've got a cracked rib. What more do I need?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that think.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the Huskies situation with DeMond Williams, right? There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that... They didn't win a national
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  Speaker 1: championship last year, though. No, it's true. It's true. They
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  Speaker 1: did not. But just the thought process of, hey, these
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  Speaker 1: guys are starting quarterback. He was about as sure thing
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  Speaker 1: of a starting quarterback as there is in college football.
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  Speaker 1: I 100% believe they're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. 100%.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing that tells me otherwise because the crazy part
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  Speaker 4: is I don't think Drew Locke comes in the game
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  Speaker 4: and makes any difference. With how poorly the run game is,
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  Speaker 4: it'll be more so the same. Now, one advantage, you
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  Speaker 4: could say Drew Locke is more athletic. Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: But is he really going to change it that much?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not. The good news is he's facing the Cardinals again.
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  Speaker 4: So he should be prepared, good to go, should have
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  Speaker 4: a good game, and the Seahawks should come out victorious.
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  Speaker 1: The real question is if he succeeds against the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably going to. I know.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing in my mind that says he's going to
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  Speaker 4: have a rough day. Yeah, I don't think so either.
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  Speaker 4: The Niners will be a great test. If he starts
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  Speaker 4: against the Niners, then it's like, okay. But do you
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  Speaker 4: go to Drew Locke to start against the Niners? If
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  Speaker 4: Sam is not healed from his cracked rib, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how long it takes for cracked ribs to heal.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be a Greg Bell question for sure. I would
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  Speaker 4: probably say if he's healthy, you put him out there.
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  Speaker 4: If he's not, then Drew Locke for the next three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the situation you're in.
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  Speaker 4: Why risk getting hurt more, not being able to play
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  Speaker 4: at your best, when you have a capable backup quarterback
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  Speaker 4: who has proven that he can come in in a pinch.
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  Speaker 1: Get a win.
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  Speaker 2: And get you some wins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I am of the understanding that if Sam is
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  Speaker 4: not 100, and maybe 100 is a little too much,
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  Speaker 4: if Sam is not good to go, if he can't
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  Speaker 4: play at his level, he shouldn't be out there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that would explain... What some of these struggles have
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  Speaker 1: been with him. Because, like, I don't think when I watch.
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  Speaker 2: He's been getting his ass whooped this season.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. He's been getting hit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like, to get a cracked rib on the second or
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  Speaker 4: first play of the game and then hurt your quad
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  Speaker 4: and still out there thugging it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I salute you, but are you helping your team?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: That's a very good question.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame fans for drawing that same conclusion. As
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, there's a lot of similarities with the DeMond
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  Speaker 1: Williams situation here because DeMond Williams struggles through the first, what,
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  Speaker 1: four or five games of the season. He plays in the,
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  Speaker 1: what was it, the Iowa game, comes out at halftime
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  Speaker 1: after just getting nothing going offensively. And they say that
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  Speaker 1: he has an injury, but I think most people were like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, this is like, If he did have an injury,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of stretching it a little bit to see
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  Speaker 1: what we got in our backup quarterback and Elijah Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Elijah Brown has success, plays the next game, has success.
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  Speaker 1: They start Elijah Brown in the third game against Nebraska. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he did not have success. DeMond Williams comes back and
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  Speaker 1: does have success, right? It's like I definitely see a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the similarities here that, OK, do we really
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  Speaker 1: have an injury or is this kind of a easy
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  Speaker 1: way to say we're trying to see what we got
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  Speaker 1: in our backup quarterback? I tend to think that if
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, like I said, if they really believed the
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  Speaker 1: best chance to win when both guys were healthy would
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  Speaker 1: be Drew Locke, they would come out and tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: They would not try and make excuses and give... the
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback an out because he's injured right i think
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  Speaker 1: sam donald is legit beat up um the real question
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  Speaker 1: now is is a good point from the 425 on
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  Speaker 1: the text line is did that affect the seahawks ability
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  Speaker 1: to win the game against the bears if it affected
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  Speaker 1: him enough to miss this game and already call him
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  Speaker 1: out instead of letting him go through practice all week
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  Speaker 1: and seeing what he feels like, if you know he's
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  Speaker 1: already going to be out against the Cardinals, that means
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  Speaker 1: he was very much injured during the Bears game as well.
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  Speaker 2: And that's on, I don't know who it's on. It
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  Speaker 2: could be on him, the training staff.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly, they didn't.
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  Speaker 4: He thought he could play through it, and I can't
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  Speaker 4: blame him. It's one of those situations that you see
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  Speaker 4: in all sports where athletes... They want to be out
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  Speaker 4: there for their teammates. Unless they are knocked out of
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  Speaker 4: the game, like physically can't get up, got to be
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  Speaker 4: carried off, walked off by a training staff, they are
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  Speaker 4: not going to tap out too often.
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  Speaker 2: Unless it's like a hamstring, something where you just, I'm immobile.
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  Speaker 4: I can't do anything. So I'm not knocking Sam. That's
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  Speaker 4: the competitive nature. Now, hindsight is 20-20. It would have
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  Speaker 4: been nice. Oh, you got hurt the second play of
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  Speaker 4: the game. Just come on out and Drew Locke takes over.
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  Speaker 4: Just like against the Patriots. But I also don't think
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  Speaker 4: it would have made that much of a difference. The
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  Speaker 4: Bears were playing great football, offense and defense.
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  Speaker 2: They put up 34.
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  Speaker 4: So unless Drew Locke is going to have a shootout
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  Speaker 4: against Caleb Williams with all the issues that the offense
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  Speaker 4: is having, because who's Drew Locke going to throw to
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  Speaker 4: outside of JSN?
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  Speaker 1: Crickets.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we're looking at the same scenario.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know for sure, but I am confident in
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  Speaker 4: Drew Locke handling business against the Cardinals today. And if
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  Speaker 4: need be, the Raiders. And then that third game will
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  Speaker 4: be the Niners, which is very important. But don't they
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  Speaker 4: have a buy-in there? Yeah, so that's the interesting part
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  Speaker 4: about this whole conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It adds fuel to the fire of the people that think, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to see what they got in Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 1: Because the next two games are against the Cardinals and Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: And he should win those games.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. It's very much a, okay, Sam Darnold... Get healthy.
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  Speaker 1: We feel comfortable with Drew Locke with these two games
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  Speaker 1: on the schedule. That being said, I would have loved
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  Speaker 1: for these two games if Sam Darnold was healthy to
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  Speaker 1: have him get some confidence against probably two of the
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  Speaker 1: lesser defenses that you're going to face this year. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And he got the Cowboys on the schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. He can get some conflicts against them. But
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  Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying. Before the Niners, it'd be nice.
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  Speaker 4: But I think for him, he's confident. Sam is as
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  Speaker 4: even keel as you'll get a guy that's a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: of an NFL team. I had a friend that basically
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  Speaker 4: talked to him, and he doesn't care about the outside noise.
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  Speaker 4: He knows what he's capable of doing. And he's going
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  Speaker 4: to go out there and do it. It's really that
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  Speaker 4: simple for him. And it's very cliche because everyone's like, well, duh.
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  Speaker 4: But he's really just focused.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to execute and put it into
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  Speaker 1: practice than to just say, oh, next play, turn the page.
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  Speaker 2: And he is that guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds cliche and like, well, everybody's that guy. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not. Sam is really.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He threw four interceptions against the Rams and everyone was confident,
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  Speaker 4: including the Seahawks, that we're fine. So it's similar. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's Not a one-game sample size. It's actually six
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  Speaker 4: or seven, I think, he's played this season. We'll say
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  Speaker 4: six games, right? It hasn't been great for Sam.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, everything around him also hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been great.
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  Speaker 4: The good news is, let's say he's out against the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals and he does come back against the Raiders, or
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  Speaker 4: you know what?
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  Speaker 2: He's out both weeks.
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  Speaker 4: He gets a time to heal, learn, and then he'll
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  Speaker 4: come back and I think even be better against the Niles.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that's assuming that everything around him is also better.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because if they beat the Cardinals but it was a struggle,
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  Speaker 2: the offense still looked really bad or not really bad.
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  Speaker 2: It just didn't look good enough.
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  Speaker 4: You still got JSM with 11 targets and 10 catches.
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  Speaker 4: And then the next person with targets and catches is
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Cupp with three and three catches.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's not a great sign.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're seeing some balance, maybe A.J. Barner gets
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  Speaker 4: activated into the offense more. He's getting opportunities. You see
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Cupp doing things on third down. You see that
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  Speaker 4: through both games. That's a positive sign.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: Those are lesser teams, but you should be doing these
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  Speaker 4: things against lesser teams. There shouldn't be a, oh, we're 20%
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  Speaker 4: on third down against the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: That shouldn't be the case.
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  Speaker 1: Washington Commanders were a quote-unquote lesser team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what?
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  Speaker 4: They showed up and played football. The Seahawks, they let
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  Speaker 4: one slide. You can't have it, and they did. But
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  Speaker 4: now you have an opportunity to do it again against
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  Speaker 4: two teams that I think everyone will believe they are
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  Speaker 4: better than right now. Sure that the Cardinals, they want
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  Speaker 4: to really Big game last week against the Cowboys. Emotional
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  Speaker 4: game where they were down and they fought back. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're going to be feeling good. And the Raiders,
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  Speaker 4: they're having a good season. Kirk Cousins doing his thing
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  Speaker 4: out there. He's having a good time. He's showing off
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: his new dance moves.
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  Speaker 1: Brock Bowers.
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  Speaker 4: Man, they're a solid team. But I think the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: just know where they're at and where they want to be.
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  Speaker 4: One week at a time. Handle business. Get the Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: at home. Go on the road against the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: Handle business.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully you get Sam Donald because you get a bye
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  Speaker 4: in between that week. In between that before you play
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  Speaker 4: the Niners. So you get a bye, get everybody healthy
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  Speaker 4: as they can be, go against the Niners, and get
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  Speaker 4: that W, and you move forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to correct myself. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: those on the text line. Drew Locke was actually inactive
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  Speaker 1: during the Bears. So even if Sam Darnold wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: been able to go, he was the emergency third quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: So he would have to get hurt, and then Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Milrow would have had to get hurt as well for
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  Speaker 1: Drew Locke to be able to come into the game.
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  Speaker 2: So it's simple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen ain't coming in doing nothing different.
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  Speaker 1: Nope. So I guess Sam was just like, I got
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  Speaker 1: to kind of eat this and suck it up.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe that's what he thought. He was like, I
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  Speaker 4: can't afford to put Jalen out here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I know he's a backup and he's ready to go,
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  Speaker 4: but I can't do that to this young. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what he was thinking, but the biggest thing is
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  Speaker 4: he tried to play through it. I mean, my goodness,
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  Speaker 4: second play of the game, you're getting smoked. That's not great.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll see. And that's the other aspect to this
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: is it's not like Drew Locke's a clean bill of
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: health right now yeah there's questions on even he's gonna
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: be a hundred percent he was.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: On the injury report what was it last week that's
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: why he was inactive so there you have it he's
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: still dealing with it according to mike mcdonald so he's
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: gonna play through it i think it's an elbow situation
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: let's google it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah but uh i i don't know man there's there's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: some weird stuff going on in the seahawks.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Great for conversation this is what it's all about yeah
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: you want to be able to talk about this stuff.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I mean if we're getting down to jail and milrose
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: starting these games whoo That's something I don't feel super
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: comfortable with.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Defense, man. We need a couple of points. Can you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: get a pick six? Can you get a fumble return
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: for a touchdown?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: That's true. Can you spot us 10 points?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love that.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: But it's harder. Turnovers are just finicky.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And Gardner Mitchell balled last week against
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: He did ball, but how's he going to ball when
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: you got eight defensive guys looking at you at the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage and you don't know who's coming and
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: who's not?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And he also balled against the, wait for it, Cowboys.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Terrible defense. Good for him. His confidence is through
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the roof. Go Cougs. But I do believe the better
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: team should win that game.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: They just got to execute.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's got to be on his P's and Q's,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: and I think they'll handle business, especially the offensive OC,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Brian Fleury. He's got to put his guys in position
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: to make plays. All right, let's figure out what's on
• 17:29
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• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, let's do that.
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• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that was just a wrench thrown into
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the plans of the show today when that came out.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're just kind of, you know, gearing up
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: for a classic game week. And then it comes out.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's out. Drew Locke is starting. And Drew Locke's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: not even 100%. So we have to have Jalen Miller
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all ready.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. So we're going to have lots of questions with that. Thankfully,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we have the 12th man roundtable today. So we got
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Greg and Hugh. We got the analyst's opinion. We got
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the beat reporter's opinion. to kind of put together and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: figure out what the plan is here against the Cardinals
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and possibly further than that with Sam Darnold being out
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: for this game at least. Safi is going to join
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: us at 725. We're going to ask him about UW,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Penn State. Did DeMond Williams get his starting job back?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: What's a successful season look like for UW for the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: rest of this year? He'll join us at 725 right
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: before Factor Fiction. A big win for the Kraken last
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: night after their OT victory. Joey Decord will join us
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: at nine. He relatively stood on his head last night.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: 25 save on 26 shots for the 2-1 victory. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the Kraken get the Calgary Flames back for the last
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: time they play them this season on November 5th. or
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: November 4th even. So they are done playing the Flames,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and they won three out of four games. So you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: will take that all day long. Mike Sando coming at 9.30.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Lots of stuff going on in the NFL. Jacoby Percet
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: traded to the Baltimore Ravens. But coming up next, Jason Kanzler,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the new Mariners manager, had his introductory press conference yesterday.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Let's hear from him. What are our first impressions? What
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: is his offensive philosophy? There's so much to discuss with
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the new Mariners manager. Let's hear from him. Coming up
• 19:28
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• 19:31
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• 19:34
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• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Chuck, in the morning. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst and Christopher Kidd here filling in while Chuck
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is on vacation. He'll be back most likely tomorrow if
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: everything goes smoothly with his traveling. Hopefully that is the case.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So don't worry. You don't have to suffer for me.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Suffer through me through only one more show here today. Well,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: so much has been happening since Chuck's been gone, including
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the Mariners hiring a new manager. Jason Kanzler spoke to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the media for the first time yesterday. First impressions. We'll
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: get to that in a little bit. But I want
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to hear from him first. We have a couple of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: clips here for you guys. I mean, there's just so
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: many questions that fans have. Is he going to have
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: autonomy for his own decision making? What kind of analytics
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: does he use, if any at all? How is he
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: going to get the most out of this offense? So
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: let's start with his offensive philosophy coming in to be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the Mariners manager.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: The hitting philosophy is an offensive philosophy. We're going to
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: play offense, and the philosophy is score runs. And that
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: comes in a variety of different formats.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: We have to do that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: With whatever tools we have available with whatever player personnel
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: we have available and whatever matches their strengths. I would not,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I am not going to impose some sort of sweeping, uh,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: offensive philosophy. The philosophy is score more runs in the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: other team, however we can.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So you can take this one of two ways. Um,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: one is, You can look at it at a very
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: surface level and be like, well, duh. What is this
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: guy coming in? He's supposed to come in and kind
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of help view things in a different way and try
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and get more to this offense that other people weren't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: able to. And him just saying our philosophy is to
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: score runs doesn't really seem like it's going to get
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: more out of the offense. Now, I tend to look
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: at it in this way. I think it would be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: malpractice to come in and just say, you know, we
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: are the I saw what the Brewers did and we
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I saw them hit for a lot of contact and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I saw them, you know, run all around the bases.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So we're going to come in and have that exact
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: same philosophy coming in to twenty twenty seven. I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that would not be very smart because the Mariners don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: have a roster to do that. They have a lot
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of slug potential. And they rely on home runs. That's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: been the way the offense works the last three or
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: four years now. And I know they've tried to put
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: pieces around the core that does rely on home runs
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and slugging. To get some more contact in the game,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but it hasn't worked out every time you've tried to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: do that. It has not worked. The one time maybe
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it has was Jorge Polanco and it did not work
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the first time around. It worked the second time around.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So that's where I think I take this as a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: positive where he's not going to. try and ask this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: roster to do something that it's not built to do.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: He's going to build the philosophy around what type of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: player he has. And I think that is the smart
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: way to move forward. Now, you can't rely on the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: home run ball for everything, obviously. You've got to find
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: ways to get on base when you're not hitting home runs.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So that's where I think... Having a little bit more
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: plate discipline, taking your walks, passing the baton, so to speak,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: would come into play. I would love to see more
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: stolen bases, some more speed inserted into this team. But
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the way the roster is constructed right now, I don't
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: think that would be very smart to just come in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and say, all right, we're a contact team. We're just
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: we're going to, you know, slap guys all around the bases.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to hit it where they ain't sort of thing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It would take an entirely different roster for that to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: be successful. So that's the kind of response I gather
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: from that. But I can see people saying it's a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: very generic way. of responding to, you know, something you're
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: supposed to bring in. But the other thing is he's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the manager. He's not the hitting coach. He's not the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, so to speak. He's the manager. He's the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: guy that's kind of supposed to get the most out
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of individual players. And all the philosophy stuff will come
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: from the guys who that job is, right? So his
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: hitting coach will hopefully kind of help him in that way.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Another big question that I think Mariner fans have about
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: their new manager is, is how much does he use
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: analytics versus a gut feel sort of thing? How do
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you marry those two thought processes? Here's his answer on
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: We are in an age of baseball where information is
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: incredibly abundant. I think we would be fools not to
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: use good information for our advantage, and we will use
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: good information to our advantage. In terms of gut feel,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: I think there will be situations where there is not
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: a clear right or wrong decision objectively. And that is
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: where understanding all the players, understanding the nuance, understanding the
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: context comes into play, and it does matter. My gut
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: feel will not be the only gut feel that is
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: considered in those situations. This is a group effort. I'm
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: going to lean heavily on my staff, on the players,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: on the organization. But in the end, when those sorts
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: of decisions have to be made, I am comfortable using
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: the gut feel.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I like that answer a lot. I think... That last
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: little part is something that I really enjoyed hearing from
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the manager because I think so much what we saw
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: last year, I would have expected Dan Wilson to rely
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: on his staff more, but I didn't see that happening
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: because every time that he would get tossed and Manny
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Acta would be the acting manager, there would be such
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: different decision making than if Dan Wilson was the manager.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Whether that's their pitching decisions, whether that's Um, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: pinch hitting decisions, all of that stuff. It felt so
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: much different when Manny acted a few times that he
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was inserted into those situations. Now, those could have been coincidences, but.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it seemed like Dan Wilson was very
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: much a solo act on those decision-making times, and it
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: failed him, I think, more than not. So having a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: guy that relies on his staff, and that's the thing
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: about analytics, is it's not making the decision for you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It's one of the things that you can use to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: make your decision, if that makes sense. It's one of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the aspects that you take into account before making your decision, right? There's...
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: There's what the numbers tell. So say you're trying to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: make a pitching change, right? There's what the numbers tell
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you in terms of, okay, what the batch up looks like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: what third time through the order, all that stuff. Should
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we pull our starting pitcher now? There's what your coaching
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: staff tells you. Hey, this guy was feeling pretty good
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: before the game today. I trust him to get this done.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And then there's your own gut feel. All three of
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: those things can be taken into account and more. So
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of thinking about all of those
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: aspects to make decisions in a game and using your
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: staff to help you make those decisions can only be
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a positive thing. They always say the best leaders surround
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: themselves with people that are smarter than them. Hopefully that's
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: what he's done. And then finally, one of the last
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: questions that we're going to get to here today is
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: his answer on, you know, there's been a lot of questions.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I think Julio comes to top of mind. And Ty
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Dane Gonzalez was on with us yesterday. He mentioned this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I asked who benefits from this. And he said, hopefully Julio,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: because you need to get. the most out of your
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: high talent players? How can it no longer be potential
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and more like this is who they are? Because it
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: feels like we've been talking about that for a long
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: time with Julio. That would obviously be the case for
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Cole Young and Colt Emerson, too. We need to get
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: them to be who they should be as players instead
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of just constantly thinking about the potential of who they
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: could be. How is he going to get talent to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: meet potential?
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I fondly remember coming here when I was with the
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: team that shall not be named. What distinctly stands out
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: to me is this atmosphere is electric. I think maybe
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I'm misremembering, but I remember, I think that electric factory
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: was even like a thing that was used. And I
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: think one of the things that excites me among many
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: things is that I would like to ride the lightning
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: with this team and this city. Now, in terms of
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: the players, I think it's extremely exciting. This is a
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: young group. They are talented, this is a good team already,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: and they have the potential and the talent to be
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: an excellent team.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that goes along with what we have
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: been talking about for a long time, is that this roster,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: maybe not this job per se, the job of the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Mariners manager is super... I think it can be viewed
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: as multiple different ways. There's a lot of guys who
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: may not want to work with Jerry DiPoto, rightly or wrongly.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But this roster is very highly regarded around baseball. The
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: roster that Jerry has built is a very talented one.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: It's highly regarded. People think that they should be winning
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: more than they have been. So that's where the thought
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: process of, hey, this should be a highly desired position
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: across Major League Baseball happens. And that shows itself with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Jason Kanzler's answer right there. And I think if he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the right guy to get this done, there was a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: lot of talk, and Ty, again, mentioned this yesterday when
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he was on our show, of guys that would come
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: up through the minor league system and and it would
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: be one philosophy throughout the entire journey up to the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: major leagues, and then it would be a completely different
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: philosophy at the major leagues, which makes, I mean, yes,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you're going to have some things be different, obviously, but
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you want to try and continue a growth process. You
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: have to continue the same things that you were doing
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to those players in the minor leagues at the major
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: league level, obviously tweaking them a little bit because you're
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: more focused on wins, obviously, Right. But that's where I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: think this guy who has a lot of he was
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the director of the Cubs farm system. He has that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: kind of player development background where you can see him
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: having that be front of mind while also trying to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: go win baseball games every single day. So I was
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: overall my first impressions. I was impressed with how he communicates. Obviously,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: we're not going to really know anything until we start
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: seeing what he does in games, how players are reacting,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But he comes across as a guy
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: who's going to hold players accountable, who's going to try
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and get the most out of his young players and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: get that talent to beat potential, who's going to make
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: good decisions or at least try to make good decisions
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: while using analytics, while using his gut and while using
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: his coaching staff and is not going to tailor his
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: entire offensive plan to around like one thing that he
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: wants to do. No, it's going to be tailored around
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: what his players' strengths and weaknesses are. I think those
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: are all good things that we want in a Mariners manager.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So hopefully they get, it's one thing to say in
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a press conference, don't get me wrong, but hopefully those
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: things get enacted whenever the season comes around. All right,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: coming up next, was this a benching of Sam Darnold?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next. Sports Radio 93.3 KGRFM. Welcome
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: back to Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Anderson Hurst filling
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in for Chuck Powell here on the Chuck Powell in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the morning. Chuck in the morning, I should say. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Christopher Kidd with you guys. Chuck will be back tomorrow.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. For the Chuck Powell fans out there that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: are like, I can't go to three days without hearing
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: his voice. Don't worry. You'll hear his voice tomorrow morning.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: We'll be back on a Friday. previewing a Seahawks versus
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Cardinals game in which the starting quarterback matchup will be
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: two different guys than we expected. Originally, maybe going into
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: last week, we were thinking, OK, Sam Donald versus Jacoby Brissett.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Of course, Jacoby Brissett gets benched halfway through the game
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Gardu Minshew comes in. creates a comeback
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: victory against Dallas, and Jacoby Brissett gets traded. All of
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a sudden, he's a Raven now. So not only is
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals' QB situation different, the Seahawks announced yesterday that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald would be out versus the Cardinals. I don't
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: think this is a benching of Sam Donald. I really don't.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to reiterate that one more time here. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: think the Seahawks, if they feel like Both guys are healthy,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and Drew Locke gives them a better chance to win.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: They would come out and say that. They would not
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: beat around the bush with this. That is very not
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald-like. I think there's something actually going on with
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald that he's banged up. And as Texters pointed
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: out earlier in the show, it's not like even if
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it was going on throughout the entirety of the game
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: against the Bears... Drew Locke was inactive for that game.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: So it's not like you could just, all right, Drew Locke,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: get out there. I'm not feeling great. You would have
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  Speaker 1: had to go to jail in Millrow at that point.
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  Speaker 1: So I think Sam kind of had to gut it
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  Speaker 1: out and suck it up a little bit to get
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  Speaker 1: through that game, which would explain a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: his struggles. But I want to talk about this from
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  Speaker 1: the Drew Locke perspective, Christopher, because I think A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people view Drew Locke as one of the better
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  Speaker 1: backups in the National Football League. But I think he
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  Speaker 1: views himself as a starting quarterback. And his contract is
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  Speaker 1: up after this year. He views the himself as one
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  Speaker 1: of the better starting or quarterbacks, at least in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League, to where he should get a starting job.
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  Speaker 1: So this is his opportunity to get a second contract,
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  Speaker 1: whether that is to continue being the Seahawks backup or
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  Speaker 1: to be a starter somewhere else, even though he's had
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  Speaker 1: multiple opportunities. Of course, he had it in Denver. He
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  Speaker 1: had it, I guess you could say here, everyone will
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  Speaker 1: say that it was a QB competition between him and
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  Speaker 1: Geno Smith. It was never a competition. But then he
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity in New York as the Giants starter,
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  Speaker 1: and that didn't work out either. So he came back
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  Speaker 1: as the Seahawks backup. So Christopher, what are your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on Drew Locke's kind of last chance here in the
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  Speaker 1: next game or two to prove that he should be
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  Speaker 1: a starter in the National Football League?
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting one because I do believe he loves
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  Speaker 2: it here.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if he's... I guess I'm not
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  Speaker 4: trying to say what guy doesn't want to be a
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  Speaker 4: starter in the NFL because everybody would want that.
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  Speaker 2: But I do believe.
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  Speaker 4: He has a place here and has an understanding of
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  Speaker 4: his role and maybe is not drawn away by the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to be a starter, right? I don't know him
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  Speaker 4: at all, but my guess is he would probably take
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  Speaker 4: that opportunity if presented. But then again, another part of
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  Speaker 4: me is thinking, man, he has it really good here
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  Speaker 4: in Seattle. He can come in when things are not
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  Speaker 4: going well. Not to say that, oh, it's okay to
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  Speaker 4: be a backup because I know that's not his mindset.
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  Speaker 4: He's just taking the opportunity that's in front of him.
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  Speaker 4: So that's an interesting one. I know he's going to
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  Speaker 4: go out and play and do his best. And if
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  Speaker 4: it comes down to next season, some teams like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 4: we want to give you X amount to come be
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  Speaker 4: the starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I don't blame him for leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he is good enough to be a starter?
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  Speaker 1: Is he one of the 32 best quarterbacks in the league?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't know. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a really good backup.
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  Speaker 1: If not the best backup.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he can be a starter, but
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  Speaker 4: they had questions about Sam Donald when he was struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Good point.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess for him, it's just the opportunity. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I can't say definitively that he's not a starter, and
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  Speaker 4: I can't say definitively that he.
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  Speaker 2: Could be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So for him, it's just where does he see a fit?
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  Speaker 4: Because to be honest, he might go to a terrible
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  Speaker 4: team again. And now what? You're back to, well, I
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  Speaker 4: can't say Denver was terrible when he was there. He
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  Speaker 4: had some weapons, but it just didn't work out. That
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  Speaker 4: was a rookie, though, yeah. For him, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: do I want to go through that again or continue
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  Speaker 4: to grow and learn from Sam Donald and others and
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  Speaker 4: be in a really good environment and a good place
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  Speaker 4: where I can go play when needed?
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  Speaker 1: These guys are burning competitors, though, man. That was my
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  Speaker 1: original point. I'm not knocking this guy. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: If someone says, we'll give.
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  Speaker 4: You a three-year deal, 50 mil, how do you say
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  Speaker 4: no to that?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he's better than Malik Wills? Probably, but
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  Speaker 1: then again, it's like... I think that's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: contract he'd be looking at, though, right?
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  Speaker 4: But even then, are you willing to basically suffer, struggle,
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  Speaker 4: have a season where Well. It's not all great, but
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: you get the money. Yeah, I was going to say,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: money talks. Money does talk, but I don't know him.
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  Speaker 4: He might not be like, oh, I'll just take the
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: money and just suck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The team will suck. That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I'm making $ 50 million a year. I'm making $ 20 million
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  Speaker 4: a year, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: I think I care.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. He might be like, nah, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to do all that, man. I'd rather learn.
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  Speaker 1: Make $ 5 million and just be on a contending team.
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  Speaker 2: Be on a contending team, and when my number's called,
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  Speaker 2: I go out there and I deliver.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's a decision that he has to make.
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  Speaker 4: We can all discuss, oh, yeah, why don't you just
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: go to Miami and make all the money in the world?
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  Speaker 4: Go get your money.
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  Speaker 2: That's huge.
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  Speaker 4: You can change your family. You can change a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of different things. But at the same time, you're playing
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  Speaker 4: a sport, having fun with it. Do you really want
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: to be down and bad but making good money? That's
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  Speaker 4: just the balance that some of these athletes have to make.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of Seahawks fans might think he gives
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you a better chance to win at this point. So
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: we'll kind of do a little bit of game here.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, we'll get
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: our headlines, and then we'll do some Seahawks remaining schedule roulette.
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  Speaker 1: If that sounds good to you, Christopher Kidd, with Drew
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Locke starting at quarterback against the Cardinals and possibly further
• 38:16
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