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Another Refugee from Abortion-World (Noemi Padilla) 6/16/26 · The Catholic Current

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This is The Catholic Current with Fr. Robert Mottaig.
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I do agree with you that ultimately this is a battle from minds and hearts and we need
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to change the culture.
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The first thing I would do is pray and get divine inspiration, make sacrifices and then
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we have to win people over and we're not going to do it by marshalling forces in the voting
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booth but you're going to have to inspire people by your behavior and by your attitude
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This is going to take a lot of patience, it's going to take a lot of conversion.
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People like to negotiate with their sin.
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We're talking about another refugee from abortion world.
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You know, as a professor of philosophy and theology, as someone who's worked in medical
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ethics for many years, worked in a hospital too, I have a lot to say about abortion.
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But there's nothing quite like someone who was on the inside and saw it for herself.
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And I hope we're all prayed up today because in my experience when we have serious conversations
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about the nitty-gritty of abortion, the electronic equipment breaks down.
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So that's why I have a picture of Saint Michael on my mouse pad here on my computer here at
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the studio.
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There's a really great program called And Then There Were None and it's kind of an operation
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rescue for people who are caught up in abortion world and want to get out.
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And we have another success story, someone who woke up, walked away, and is now telling
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the truth bravely.
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She was a licensed practical nurse for many years and then worked at Tampa's Women Health
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and was clinical nursing supervisor before she resigned in 2017.
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Naomi Padilla, welcome to The Catholic Current.
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Thank you, Father.
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Thank you so much for having me and God bless you on this wonderful day.
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Naomi, I, as a much younger Jesuit, I was a chaplain to an ER at a level one trauma
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center in Philadelphia.
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I know what it's like in there and I know that the nurses are tough as nails.
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But in your story, the abortion clinic broke you.
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And I said, well, gosh, how did that happen?
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But let's back up a little bit.
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How did, I imagine as a little girl, you didn't wake up every morning and say, you know, when
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I grow up and I'm a big girl, I want to be a nurse at an abortion clinic.
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That's probably, your childhood was not like that.
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How did you get there?
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Absolutely.
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That's actually one of our most favorite t-shirts that we have through our ministry.
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And then there were none.
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It's whatever we have on the front, but the back says nobody grows up wanting to be an
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abortion worker.
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Right?
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Right.
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So much reality behind that statement, especially for nursing.
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I can remember for as long as I can remember that I wanted to be a nurse.
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I come from a long line of nurses and medical personnel.
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So it's in our family DNA.
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And I was just very, very gung ho and was very set on that path.
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And you know what, when we're in nursing school and you're deciding what specialty you want
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to go into, abortion is never one of the options, right?
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Everybody's always fighting for the OBGYN spots.
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You know, in my case, I love the neonatal ICU, the PICU, all those very high demand,
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you know, departments, but never abortion.
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And as a matter of fact, one of my breaking points, one of my heartbreaking points in
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New York was when we were laboring out someone from another country and we couldn't get an
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interpreter at the hospital.
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And so this poor woman had no idea that her baby had already passed and she was laboring
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out, you know, unfortunately, her dead little one.
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And we couldn't even convey that to her because we have a language barrier.
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Right.
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And so that was heartbreaking.
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And that right there said to me, I need a break from from OB for just a little bit,
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you know, and went to another specialty just for a few months and then came back because
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my heart was to promote life.
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That's why I took this oath.
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That was what my life was dedicated to.
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Never to end life.
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Right.
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So this is a dramatic change.
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So you know the human body, you know how it works, you know where babies come from, you
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know what it means.
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And you know that when a woman is pregnant, that means everything in her body worked.
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Pregnancy, you know, demanding, of course, is also a sign of health.
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You've had you've seen for yourself the wonder of bringing a child into the world.
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How did you end up in an abortion clinic in Florida?
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So a couple of things.
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Number one, I left New York to come to Florida because I am a 9-11 survivor.
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And after 9-11, just life became very, very difficult.
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I lost family and friends to that event.
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And so I just needed I needed a break.
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Right.
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So I decided to relocate.
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My sister was already living and well established in Florida.
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So I said, well, I'll join you.
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So I went over to the Sunshine State, you know, and didn't think about it really well,
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because in New York, not having a license is a great thing.
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Who needs a car in New York City, just like in Philadelphia, it's very congested, right?
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So over here in Florida, I needed to find work that was close to home that I could get
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to so easily.
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And literally about five minutes walking distance from where I was living at the time was the
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abortion clinic that I ran.
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So I remember when I was looking for work, I said, you know what?
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Yeah, this is very doable.
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When I get sick of the public transportation system, this is where I'm going to work.
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I literally proclaimed it, right?
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I didn't see a problem with it.
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I fully knew that they were an abortion clinic.
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But at that point, I was very much pro choice.
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And I wanted to help women, especially since I'm post abortive myself.
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So my thought process is, you know, I had an abortion when I was 17.
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Somebody helped me.
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They did me the favor.
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Let me pay it forward.
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What better way for me to help my community, right?
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So on said day that I went to interview there, I had just got it.
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I was working at the jail, and I was doing night shifts, and I had just gotten off a
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double shift.
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And it was really, really, it was a really, really complicated night shift.
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And so that morning, I got off the bus right in front of the abortion clinic and said,
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you know what, today's the day that I'm going to go get a job there.
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So I did that.
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I walked into the to the clinic and I said, Hey, um, are you guys hiring?
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And so the receptionist said, Yes, absolutely.
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And let me just get my director, the executive director comes out and she says, Well, do
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you have time to interview?
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I'm like, Yeah, why not?
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Um, he takes me to the back.
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And we're having this conversation.
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She's asking me the basic questions.
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And she says, I hear your your, your tone.
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Are you from New York?
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I said, Yes, absolutely.
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He said, Our doctor is from New York.
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I think you're going to hit it off with her.
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Let me get her.
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So she introduces me to the doctor and we do hit it off.
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I mean, we're having New York conversation.
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We ate at the same places, you know, ordered the same food.
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We were like, kindred spirits from the very beginning.
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And so at that point, she says, You're going to be a great fit here.
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And she gives the executive director the green light.
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She's like, Yeah, I want her where she's the keeper.
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And so they tell me, Can you start to work today?
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And I was like, Absolutely not.
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You know, I just got off a double shift and I need a shower.
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I smell literally.
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That's what I said.
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I smell.
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And he said, Yeah, no, we really need you.
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And so I said, It's not happening.
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She said, Well, we're going to offer you $500 as a stay and sign on bonus.
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I said, It just happened.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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Who doesn't want $500 in their pockets, right?
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And so in retrospect, in the moment, from the very beginning, the evil that surrounds
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the place.
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Because if I would have had a moment of clarity and not been thinking about the dollar sign
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at that moment, I would have thought never does any nurse go into any environment and
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get hired.
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You may get hired on the spot, but you're not going to start working on the spot because
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they need to credential you.
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They need to, you know, those were my thoughts.
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You know, there's got to be paperwork and references and investigation.
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I read the part of your story.
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I said, This doesn't pass the smell test.
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No, no.
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But at that point, Father, I wasn't thinking straight because, again, it was $500 that
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were being dangled in front of me in my humanity, right?
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I was like, Well, who can't use $500?
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So every time that I share this part of my testimony, it always makes me like, Wow, you
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know, like there were signs right at the beginning, right from the start.
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But you're not thinking that because what's happening is that they're saying, You're going
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to be great at this.
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You're rocking this like you can do that.
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You know, they they they appeal to that inner part of us that just needs to hear those words.
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Right.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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The coercion begins from the moment you walk in.
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Well, you know, I think of my mother, God rest her soul, whenever I was a little kid
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and I wanted I asked for something that I knew I really shouldn't have, she would say
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to me in Italian, you know, when the devil caresses you, he wants your soul.
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And so it took you a while and we'll talk about this more in the next segment to figure
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out these people were not your friends.
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They were not advocates for women.
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They weren't health care providers in the usual sense of the word.
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They were they were vampires.
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They were in the business of blood money.
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And the you know, again, as I read your story, it was like reading a horror story where you
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wake up from a dream and realize you're waking into a nightmare world.
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And I want to really dive deep into step by step how that happened.
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And then eventually we'll need to talk later about how you get out.
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My guest today is a nurse, Naomi Padilla.
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She is another refugee from abortion world.
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You know, we always have a family-friendly show here at the Catholic Current.
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Listener discretion is advised.
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Naomi, so you arrived.
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You were startled by your warm welcome.
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And again, they went above and beyond.
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They didn't check your references.
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They didn't vet you at all.
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They just put you to work almost sight unseen, you know, as you walk through the front door.
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That's a big red flag right there.
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In the studies that I've done and the people I've spoken with, like you, who got drawn
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into that world and then escaped, the pattern seems to be like that of a cult.
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They love BAMI.
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You are the best thing ever.
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You're the great gift of the universe to this wonderful and important work.
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You're our best friend.
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You can do no wrong.
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Let us give you stuff and lots of hugs.
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That's what it seemed like to me in your story.
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Is that an accurate description?
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Absolutely, absolutely, Father.
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It's funny that you use the phrase cult, because that is exactly what all of us ex-abortion
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workers refer to our time in the industry as.
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It's the cult years.
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And there is a conditioning that happens from the moment that you walk into the clinics,
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right from the very first second.
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And the sad part is, is that with the conditioning comes that extra added conditioning where
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in my case, they also then roomed me to be able to do this to other young ladies, because
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I was able to be part of the hiring process for the other young ladies, for the support
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staff.
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And then at that point, I was then doing the exact same thing that was done to me to them.
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You know, you are this amazing person.
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You are the most important person there.
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You are this great gift until you're not, which means if you speak up against abortion,
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or if you try to have women's rights, or if you say, hey, this particular young lady really
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can use some options, or let's get some medical records, you know, let's let's do something
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a little different here.
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Then you become this evil person that is not fulfilling the status quo.
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Right.
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So your job was just really to keep the money.
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So these weren't really patients, or clients, or fellow women.
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These were revenue streams.
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Is that a fair assessment?
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Absolutely.
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They were dollar signs.
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Right.
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So in the abortion industry, we would have morbid senses of humor.
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I mean, we made jokes about anything and everything.
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And literally, women coming in, if they had gold jewelry on, or if they were driving a
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fancier car, we're like, oh, here comes big time money.
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That was how we would refer to them.
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Right.
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And then if somebody came in, you know, looking like they did not have much money with a bunch
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of children, we're like, oh, that's even bigger time money, because that money is going to
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be guaranteed money from the funding sources.
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Right.
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So it was all about money.
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Everything had a dollar sign attached to it.
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Right.
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Even the staff.
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Even the staff.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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You know, I've been a priest for almost 30 years, and I've been a sinner as long as I
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can remember.
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And I know that you don't usually start with high-end sin.
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You negotiate with sin just this once, just this little bit.
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It's not a big deal.
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And you develop a tolerance for bigger and bigger sin.
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Could you talk a little bit about how, there must have been at some point before the final
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break, there must have been some sort of struggle, you know, do I really need to do this?
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It's okay.
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Oh, it's not a big deal.
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It's fine.
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Could you describe what that process was like for you?
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Absolutely.
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You know, like you said, it does start with a small sin.
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It starts with, you know, a paper that wasn't signed, and then you sign it for the patient.
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You know, they would have signed it anyways.
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Or it's, then it goes on to, you know, let me just lie to a patient and tell them that
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there aren't any resources when we have a full service resource center right around
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the corner.
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They don't need to know that, you know?
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And then it goes to, let's falsify some sonograms, right?
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And let me falsify my own credentials because I promise you, I've never gone to sonogram
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school or any kind of sonography classes a day in my life, yet I was the top number one
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sonographer in the place.
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And I was taught how to do sonograms by a woman who wasn't even medically credentialed
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at all.
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So again, self-taught, self-proclaimed, self-certified, that's a huge lie right there, right?
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And baby's lives are in my hands, and I'm just doing this because I can, because somebody
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said that I would be good at it.
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And so where does the lie stop?
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And so, or where does the sin stop?
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And then you get more and more, you're falsifying sonograms, you know, you're giving the wrong
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medication, you're giving expired medications, you're giving the wrong doses because today
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we want to hurry up and finish really quickly because everybody, it's Friday and everybody
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has things to do this evening.
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So we would double and triple Medicaid, or, you know, everybody needs extra hours this
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week because it's back to school time, so let's give half the medications so that these
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procedures could get long and drawn out.
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Like, where did we stop?
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We didn't.
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We had no moral compasses, and we would do anything to seal those abortions and get the
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women on the tables.
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So that's what happened in the workplace.
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What did it do to you after hours?
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When you went home, did you run to the mirror and give yourself a thumbs up?
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What was it like when you just sat by yourself at the end of a workday?
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Most of the times, I'm going to be honest with you, we did everything together, so most
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of the times we were all either intoxicated or altered.
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Everybody, you know, everybody had addiction problems.
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For me, food was my addiction.
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I had other staff that used all the different kinds of drugs.
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It was very common for us to go to happy hour and just have a bunch of drinks until
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we couldn't think anymore, you know.
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We rarely looked in the mirror, if I'm honest with you, because then we have to look at
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the reflection of who we really are.
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Right.
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Right.
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So it was just cold.
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Where were you in terms of, I mean, I would find it hard to believe that you were going
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to Mass every Sunday, for example, during that time.
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Well, absolutely.
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We didn't go to church.
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And it's funny because I was raised in the church.
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Like I say that I was born into Christianity, you know, like for as long as I can remember,
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we had a relationship with God.
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I had a relationship with God.
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And no, we wouldn't go to church because what if the topic of abortion came up in the church
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or what if they made an altar call and said, hey, any sinners here this week?
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You know, what was I going to do?
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I wasn't going to.
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God and I were not having conversations, you know, I knew that he was there.
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We tried really hard in our humanity to keep God out of the clinic.
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We thought that if we did not say the word God, and if we did not pray, and if we did
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not mention it, he would not know what we were doing.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Gosh, I don't know what to say to that.
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So what about your family and friends?
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Did they know the kind of work you were doing?
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Did they ever talk to you about it?
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Did you ever mention it to them?
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So my close family knew that I was working there.
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But again, my family was a divided family.
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Some were, hey, great job, sis, you're doing a great job for women.
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And then I had the other portion that said, absolutely not.
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I actually have a brother who is a chaplain, and he prayed with me each and every night.
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He would just say goodnight prayers with me.
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And I am so grateful for him because the entire four years, every single night, whether it
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was one o'clock in the morning, we'd have that end of the day phone call, and he was
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never judgmental.
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And he would just say, we're just praying that you make it to another day, you know,
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very general prayers.
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When I quit, he confessed to me, he admitted to me, he goes, sis, you want to know something?
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Every day as we hung up the phone, every night, I then said an additional prayer for you that
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God would touch your heart and that you would leave that place.
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But I was not going to give you that pressure because I know it was your walk to walk.
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Well, you know, I think maybe those extra prayers of your brother kind of kept, could
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have kept a spiritual door open that the enemy would have wanted to have had closed.
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I'm sure that when you were in the industry, and I do call it an industry deliberately,
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you probably heard things in the news or testimony before Congress where people would hold their
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chin up and with smiling white teeth say, we're here to be advocates of women and reproductive
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health and keeping the government out of people's lives, etc.
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And you already knew from behind the scenes what was really going on.
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What was your reaction as you heard these advocates go to the cameras and tell their
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stories?
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So, truth be told, we isolated a lot, and we tried to not pay attention to those things
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because again, in a cult-like environment, the more isolated that you are, the better
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it is, right?
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So if somebody, like if my sister would call me and say, hey, did you see this on the news
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or something?
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And I happen to mention it right away, the owner would say, listen, yeah, you know, those
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are those crazy fanatics, you know, outside and let's not have conversation.
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They're not nice people.
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They will never be your friend.
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We love you.
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And we are together in this battle for women's rights.
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And you know what we're doing is right.
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They have no clue what women's rights really are all about.
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We're the ones at the front line.
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That was part of the conversations we would have.
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You know, I refer to myself as a recovering academic.
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I was a university professor for many years.
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And whatever school I was at, there was always a women's center and there was a Department
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of Women's Studies and there was women's advocacy, etc., etc.
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But at this late date, absolutely everyone really knows what goes on in abortion clinics.
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Everyone knows what the medical standards are.
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Everyone knows it's, you know, there's no one who turns down a scholarship to be a brain
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These are the bottom feeders of the medical industry.
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And I just want to know all these fierce pro-women feminists, these women who promote books like
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In Our Bodies, Ourselves with their absolutely erroneous accounts of abortion, where are
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I've been following this for decades.
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My guest today is Naomi Padilla, a refugee from the abortion industry.
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So Naomi, eventually, because I've had similar conversations with folks, you hit bottom,
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you say, I can't do this anymore.
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You no longer believe the lie that you're helpless, because that's how the devil always
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works.
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The devil wants us to despair and just roll over and drown in the muck.
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You decided you can't do this anymore.
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What happened next?
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So for me, I had that, what we call the aha moment as ex-abortion workers.
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I had my aha moment about two years, a little bit over two years while I was in the industry.
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I was in there for four years.
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We specialized in second trimester procedures.
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We were the go-to location for out-of-state procedures.
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We were the destination abortion center here in Florida.
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And there was this one family who was a very much wanted, they had a very much wanted pregnancy.
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They had just stumbled in to our clinic because they went to the wrong place instead of to
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the pregnancy care center next door.
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And I maneuvered and manipulated the sonogram.
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And so she kept coming back and we developed this crazy relationship.
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And she asked me to hear a heartbeat.
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And I was like, absolutely not.
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She said, I'll pay you 50 bucks.
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And again, like I said, money talks in the abortion clinic.
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So I let her hear the heartbeat, but guess what, Father, I also heard the heartbeat.
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And I had not heard a heartbeat in two years.
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So that was the beginning of God saying, my daughter, I am here.
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I'm here and I see you, right?
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And so she kept coming back for more sonograms.
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I watched this baby grow until she got into her OB care.
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And then she was way into her, the end of her second trimester.
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And she apparently had a problem, went to the local hospital where they misdiagnosed
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her and told her that she needed an abortion because neither she nor the baby were going
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to survive the labor, the birth.
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So she called me at the same time that the hospital was giving me a report on her and
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said, hey, you know, I have to come see you.
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And I said, you know, this doesn't seem right.
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Can you get medical records?
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Because, you know, I'm not a doctor, but I had seen this baby grow.
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And my instinct was saying this is not correct.
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But she came in and I had to argue with the owner and the doctor.
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And they said, listen, this is a high, a high monetary.
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This is a high value abortion.
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We're doing this.
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And so we embarked on this three and a half day abortion process for her as she did each
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and every day.
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Father, without an ounce, without a single drop of sedation, because her thought process
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is my baby's hurting.
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I need to hurt also like I love my baby and I am not going to be sedated through this.
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I am going to hold my baby's hand.
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And it was life changing and life altering.
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And then a week later, I get the medical results, the medical records from the hospital.
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And it was a mistake.
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We ended the life of the wrong baby.
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And so it was devastating.
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And I ate myself.
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I ate myself into a stupor and a coma that that week.
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And I remember saying, I know that this baby, you know, did not have to die this day this
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way.
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I don't know if the baby would have made it the rest of the pregnancy, but the baby did
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not have to die at our hands, at my hands, if I would have fought harder for her.
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And so at that point, I went back to work and I went to the staff and I said, guys,
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I can't do this anymore, ladies.
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So guess what, you guys, if you want a chance at a good reference, you need to start leaving
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because I had hired them.
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So I felt directly responsible for them.
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I'm very much a mama bear kind of a person.
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Go talk to those crazy people on the sidewalk, you know, see what they're all about.
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Go get jobs.
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Provide good references for you and help you get established.
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And it took me two years to get everybody out.
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And so at the end of those two years and unbeknownst to me, every time that they left and had contacted
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and then there were none, they were saying, please pray for our manager like she's still
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stuck in there.
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Please pray for her.
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I didn't know anything about this.
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So fast forward on the day that I quit and I called the hotline for and then there were
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none and they said my name and I, you know, I'm in Tampa, Florida and they wait a minute.
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Is this are you from the purple building on Fletcher Avenue?
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And I'm like, yeah, they're like, we've been praying for you for four years and I'm going
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to tell you, father, if that wasn't the biggest confirmation from our heavenly father saying
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you did the right thing.
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I don't know what was because people, they don't know me, you know, they don't know me.
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And that's what I'm then there were none is all about.
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It's about prayer, love and support, you know, and I would not be who I am today without
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our heavenly father, first and foremost.
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And then that.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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So eventually you had to tell your employers that I'm not doing this anymore.
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Did they give you a bouquet of flowers and a gold watch and a farewell party?
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Absolutely not.
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When you quit the abortion industry, you get shunned worse than the Amish shun their own
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country folk, you know, right.
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They will lie about you.
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It's funny because at one point I had done an interview and they actually wanted to cross
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reference with my ex executive director.
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And her comment was, yeah, she's some kind of type of religious, you know, fanatic.
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I don't even know what she is.
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But yeah, I was, you know, the greatest gift while I was working there for them.
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Yeah.
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So they're going to backstab you.
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They're going to shun you.
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They're going to shame you.
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I imagine they're going to both berate you and bribe you.
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Did that happen, too?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Within about two hours of the shock, I walked into the clinic.
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I said, hey, guys, here's the keys to the kingdom.
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I'm quitting.
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We had three locations.
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I gave them keys to all three locations and they were like, OK, you're throwing a tantrum.
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You know, what do you want?
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What kind of Michael Kors bag do you want?
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I said, no, this is really it.
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And so I left.
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And within a couple of hours, I was getting the text about, hey, come back.
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Let's negotiate.
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What do you want?
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How much money do you want?
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All those things.
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We really.
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And then goes the guilt.
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We really need you.
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We can't run without you.
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And then when that wasn't working comes, you know, you're really horrible and unprofessional
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and you're we're going to make sure you never get a job a day in your life.
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Oh, right.
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Right.
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Oh, but our God is an awesome God.
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And I promise you, I had a job offer the very next day.
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Because he is not going to leave us in the cold.
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He's not going to leave us dangling.
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So there is an outside chance that somebody listening to this is is in the business, is
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in the industry and wants to get out, but is on the verge of despair, because one of
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the ways the devil beats us down is to say, you're the only one who thinks like this.
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If there's a problem, you're the problem.
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It's not going to get any better than this.
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Just resign yourself to it.
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If there's someone who wishes there's a way out, but says there is no way, what would
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you say to them?
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You know, I hope that there is somebody that's listening, that's working in the clinics.
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I really do.
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Or or a sister or cousin or a friend of somebody who has an affiliation to somebody working
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in a clinic so that they can share this information.
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I say I challenge them in love, say just go to abortionworker.com, pull it up.
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This is the age of the Internet.
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Pull it up and see the testimonies of more than 700 other ex-abortion workers.
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See the off the offers that are out there.
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And I say offers because they're coming from a cult like mentality, right, where everything
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has a money value.
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Right.
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So that's why I tend to sometimes use the word offers.
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It's the language that they that they know and understand and are used to.
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Right.
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You're going to find a tribe of unconditional love of women and men that understand what
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you went through on your worst day and still love you unconditionally, where you don't
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even have to give the details because we've been there and walked the same path in a different
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location.
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And so we just we get each other, you know, and it's so much more.
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It's emotional support.
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It's educational support.
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It's therapy.
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It is monetary support if deemed and needed.
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You know, that's on an individual per case basis.
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It is.
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But it's the sisterhood, the tribe and the constant.
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When you get triggered at three o'clock in the morning, there is somebody in this tribe
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up and willing to listen to you literally.
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Right.
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When you have a nightmare and you can't you can't you can't stomach or fathom what you
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did that day, your actions for the day, instead of taking that drink or that drug, take a
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chance and go check us out and have one conversation with one ex-abortion worker.
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And I promise their life will forever be changed.
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Something else that I want to bring up about the urgency of getting out sooner rather than
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later.
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This is you know, this is not like say, gosh, I thought I would like playing golf and I
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decided I didn't.
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So I walked away.
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After you walk away, you need healing, don't you?
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Can you testify to the folks who are afraid of looking at their wounds that there really
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is healing available?
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There is.
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Absolutely.
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First of all, we say that we're going to be in recovery from the time in the abortion
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clinic for the rest of our lives.
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And that is OK, because for the rest of our lives, we have a team surrounding us.
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Right.
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Yes.
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Those wounds there.
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First of all, they're invisible wounds, right, because they're not seen on the skin.
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They're in our hearts.
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They're in our minds, in our souls.
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But they we have.
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And then there were none through God.
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This ministry can heal those because he can heal all of us.
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Right.
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He can redeem us.
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And he forgives us.
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Right.
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And then there were none.
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Puts us in an environment and gives us the resources, provides the resources so that
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we can take accountability and thus allow the healing process and allows us to forgive
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ourselves.
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And God has already forgiven us.
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We are our biggest critics.
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And it's harder for us to forgive ourselves because we're human.
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But you know what?
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There's a team of therapists, of loving advocates that are going to help walk that path with
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us.
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So those wounds do not have to be there forever.
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They can be healed.
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Right.
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Right.
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And, you know, as as a priest, you know, someone who spends his life working with sinners,
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helping them to clean up the mess of their lives.
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And as, you know, someone who's been a sinner himself and had to repent, I know that one
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of the tricks of the devil is to convince us that we are defined by our sin.
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And what's most important about us is the sin that we're most ashamed of.
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And that is a lie from the bit of hell.
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And we have to rebuke that with confidence.
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So what defines us is our baptism.
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And what is most important about us is our relationship with Christ.
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Christ came to call sinners.
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He came to bring us home.
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He came to set us free.
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And I can't think of a more monstrous industry than the abortion clinic, a place where people
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judge the quality of their day by how much blood of children they've washed off from
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their hands at the end of the day.
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These people are not your friends.
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They don't love women.
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They're not health care providers.
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And there is hope and healing.
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Naomi, very quickly, where where can they find help?
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What's a website they need to go to?
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The easiest way is go to abortionworker.com.
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It's going to take you right to the end.
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Then there were none page.
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And it is going to give a list of resources, testimonies and everything.
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There's a link that says I need help to quit.
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For those that want to support quitters, there's a link for that also.
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So please just try it on over to abortionworker.com and see what is out there.
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All right.
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Well, we will absolutely make sure that this isn't in the resources for the show today.
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If you are caught in this trap, there is a way out.
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There is hope.
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There is healing.
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And there is fellowship and love waiting for you.
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Naomi Padilla, thank you for your testimony today.
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God bless you.
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Very good work.
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God bless you as well.
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God bless you, Father.
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It is a timely Tuesday, timely thoughts reflecting what we've heard today.
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My guest was Naomi Padilla, who was a nurse and a clinical nursing supervisor at an abortion
42:04
clinic in Florida for four years, and we talked about how she got out of the abortion world.
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It's a compelling conversation.
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What I want to talk about here is how to have conversations with people who still, at this
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late date, knowing everything that we know, how do we talk about abortion?
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I want to give a shout out to a member of Congress.
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This is Brandon Gill, who is a Republican from Texas.
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He was interviewing recently a woman who was involved in the abortion industry.
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He asked, so what's your favorite abortion procedure?
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See that's the thing.
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I would tell my students when I was teaching medical ethics, never, ever, ever talk about
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abortion in the abstract.
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Talk about a woman with a name and an age.
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Talk about a woman and talk about exactly where she is in her pregnancy.
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Talk about blood types.
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Talk about the instrument that the abortionist has in his hand, and talk about what he's
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going to do with it.
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Ask questions like this.
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How do you know when an abortion has been successful?
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Let's start with that.
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I was wandering around in a bookstore years ago, and the, if you will, the Bible of feminist
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so-called pro-woman medicine was a book called Our Bodies, Ourselves.
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If you go to the section on abortion, it shows these different instruments in the woman's
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body, but it never shows that the instrument is doing any of it.
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What's it doing there?
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In other words, they never showed the pre-born child.
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I see this as a sleight of hand, as being a bit disingenuous.
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Always be specific about abortion.
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What happens?
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Since Roe v. Wade is gone, thanks be to God, which I really thought I'd never live to see
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the day, but here we are.
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In some places, abortion numbers have gone down, thanks be to God.
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Some clinics have gone out of business because it turns out, oh, we supply the full array
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of women's healthcare, blah, blah, blah.
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Once you tinker with their abortion revenue stream, they go away.
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Now it's abortion by pill.
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There's all sorts of mischief and shenanigans to just get it over the counter like cold
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medicine without any sort of medical accompaniment.
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I'll use that word rather deliberately.
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Then we can say that we are making progress.
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Well, no, if we're still passing out abortion pills, then we've got to talk about that too.
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We have to talk about that too.
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For example, I would tell students that you would think that these pills were just a dose
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of baby be gone.
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You just take one of those and presto chango, miraculously, you are magically un-pregnant.
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There is no such thing as un-pregnant.
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There's pre-pregnant, there's pregnant, and then there's post-pregnant.
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This pill doesn't miraculously or magically, better said, restore you to your pre-pregnant
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state.
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Every time, every time, and science tells us this, or the science as the cool kids call
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it now, the science makes clear that every time a woman conceives, cells from her child
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remain in her bloodstream her whole life.
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You might make the baby go away, but the fact of the pregnancy doesn't go away.
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That conceived child just doesn't disappear.
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It's expelled from the body with all that that means, and I have to be very candid here.
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It's a horrifying and often violent procedure where a woman needs medical help, and she's
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told none of that.
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She's not told of the risks.
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She's not really told about what happens to her body and to the child's body.
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Mind you, this is being done, this is being promoted by the so-called great champions
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of women and women's agency and women's autonomy and respect for women's bodies.
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Just remember, the people pushing these pills at you think it's a good day when your baby
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dies.
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These pills are being pushed at you by people who think it's a good day when it takes them
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a long time to wash the blood of children off their hands and their employers sink.
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This is who we're dealing with.
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So the truth is on the side of life, facts are on the side of life, and the science is
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on the side of life.
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There are always, always, always alternatives to abortion.
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Every Catholic diocese in the United States has help for you to ensure the health of you
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and your baby, to help you whether you decide to parent or arrange for adoption.
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So very often, women in difficult situations are led to despair.
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They think they have no hope.
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They think they have no options.
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They are desperate.
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They are vulnerable.
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And then these vampires, these cannibals, these leeches whisper into your ear and say
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you have no choice but to kill.
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And again, that is a lie from the pit of hell and there has to be rebuke.
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So please do go to our show notes.
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If you're a clinic worker, we've got links to get you out.
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If you're in a crisis pregnancy, we've got links for that.
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If you've been involved in abortion and need healing, we have links for that.
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There are people who love life, who want to love you and your child, who want to give
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you the help and the hope and the healing that you need.
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Abortion is a lie.
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Despair is a lie.
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Life is a gift and I promise you there is love and hope and healing from you.
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Make the phone calls that you need.
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Do it today.
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We need to attract the attention of the listeners so these conversations get the attention they
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deserve.
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Together we'll take it to the whole world.
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Through the intercession of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, may Mighty God bless you, Father,
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Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Go in peace and please do pray for me, for I am a sinner.