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Bears OTA / Minicamp recap with Sean Hammond of Chicago Tribune · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: What up, what up, what up everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Windy City podcast presented by fancited IML Shapiro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ken Davis's internet is out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Storms have been crazy across the Chicago land area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So uh...
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have internet and he sadly couldn't join us so you're stuck with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But thankfully, we have a very special guest, my buddy, from the Bears beat Sean Hammond of the Chicago Tribune at the Combine, he's the guy who thinks ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to call St. Elmos and he makes the reservation and he is always kind enough, whenever we work together in Indianapolis, there's always kind enough to say, hey, I got this reservation at St. Elmos, you want to come through, which of course I say yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Sean Hammond, the man with the plan with the Chicago Tribune, thanks so much for joining us, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up, Alex, thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed you and say, you know, most of this past February.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I gotta say, I made that reservation earlier than ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it was on the drive up to Lambo in early December, where I said, oh, I gotta just make that thing right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, that's the entire NFL world is trying to get a reservation at St. Elmo's during the combine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you definitely have to think ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you were on top of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean, first off, how are you doing, man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, we just finished the last practice of the offseason programming yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little break here before training camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a little breath of fresh air before we really get going and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just start there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the entire offseason program is done like you said the rookies have had there many camp OTAs mandatory mini camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What were your biggest takeaways from the entire spring session as a whole?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: a couple big picture things come to mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, number one is just obviously there is so much hype right now with this team with the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see the cover of Madden we see, you know, Caleb Williams is on the new heights podcast with the Kelsey brothers like it's through the roof and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Ben Johnson is the guy who's sort of turning that notch down a little bit and saying, we just got to get back to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what you expect from Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly who he was last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's sort of a no nonsense dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved his, well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I loved, I laughed at his quote when asked about Caleb being on a cover of Madden, and he just said simply two words, he just said no thoughts, like does not care, not interested, you know, any of those outside distractions, whether it's the stadium, whether it's the Madden cover, like they don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just focused on getting back to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think for Ben,
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's kind of been back to basics this spring that I think that's kind of the case offense and defense especially defense they said you know Dennis Allen was talking about how there's maybe a little too much focus on access in those last year as they're trying to install you know get their their system in he thinks they sort of lost their way a little bit in terms of the fundamentals and so that's been a focus for the defensive side and and on the offensive side I mean everything you see in the spring is pretty vanilla events
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't really take a vacation over these six weeks before training camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be trying to figure out how he's going to exploit some of those mismatches over this time and that's kind of when he comes up with his most creative ideas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows what he has on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He saw everybody during OTAs in mini camp and now he can go ahead and make a plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think from the coaching perspective, those are the things that stand out and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at some of the pieces they brought in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Xavier and Thomas really fast dude, you can tell that right away, Logan Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I think it was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are in a place where they can, they can spend a second round pick and a guy who's gonna be a backup for the while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tells you a lot about where the roster's at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Johnson had a great spring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he made some really nice plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once he was back out there these last couple of weeks, he missed it early part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot to be excited about with the bears right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you mentioned it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The most excitement is around quarterback Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Madden stuff is obviously national spotlight, but locally here at OTA's during spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you noticing from Caleb Williams both on the field on the practice field, but also like, what are you hearing from him at the podium?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, just looking on the field first,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could taste in bad days, you know, like it's it's it's not like he has arrived arrived yet, you know, and honestly every quarterbacks going to have bad days, I'm sure, you know, the Josh Allen's and Patrick Mahomes of the world have bad days here and there too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was, it was interesting listening to Caleb yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, I think it was like maybe on Tuesday this this week that he kind of struggled a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Khalif Raymond the veteran receiver who they had in free agency came up to and said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something about, hey man, you know, when you're when you're frustrated like we all know is that and it was kind of a nice little little kickback to last year where it's like the the body language thing, you know, the the confidence in the quarterback that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: his teammates are going to notice when he's when he's frustrated and it was a little reminder like hey man you got to you got to be a little bit stoic out there and so I know that that is sounding like a negative thing but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb is still the same the same guy he was two years ago, you know, and he's still learning and he's still even things and emphasis from a year ago is still got to be an emphasis this year, you know, when when Ben Johnson came in there was all that talk about the body language stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still working through so many same things the completion percentages and just going to magically go up after one year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of be a work in progress and that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then throughout OTAs, throughout mandatory minicam attendance is always a story line for in sometimes good reasons, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And especially when we hear Ben Johnson say things like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get a chance to get to no jail in Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get a chance to no color garden because those guys weren't around for all of last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So with that in mind, were there any noticeable absences or maybe prolonged absences throughout OTAs and through mandatory minicants?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, unfortunately, Kyler Gordon has been dealing with another soft tissue injury and he pretty much missed almost the entire spring, you know, he was out there like early early on, we saw him stretch in but we never.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we saw him once do in team drills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a concern when you're talking about the guy who only played three regular season games last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The injuries were a problem too, since I'm an IR, you did come back for the playoffs, but it's hard, like you know, Jalen and Kyler, even when they were back in late December and into January, they weren't quite themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's hard for Ben Johnson to get a read on a guy like Kyler when he's not really been out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at all since Ben became the coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the big one in terms of absences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle has been still dealing with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to just circle back, come training camp in July and see where that is and how quickly Kyle can get up to speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that they want him out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Dennis Allen talked him up a lot when they hired Dennis Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was one of the first guys he pointed to of guys he's excited to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to play that, that X is in those game with the chess piece like that and he hasn't really gotten the chance to do that, unfortunately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, I mean, the Bears had pretty good attendance Jalen Johnson missed a little bit early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually, his wedding was during OTA's at some point, so he was doing some personal things, but he was back the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Montez sweat might have missed a little bit here and there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's anything to worry about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he may have missed a little bit last year too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's more a veteran who they they trust to put in the work on his own and you know he was here for from mandatory mini camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, it's mostly injury stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say TJ Edwards was back after that bad ankle injury in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been back doing team stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dio was back doing team stuff during many camps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are both, both promising.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a while for Azita Pillow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's, there's maybe a couple other guys dealing with some injuries, who we didn't see, but will probably be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, this kind of Gordon thing, it's, it is unfortunate that it has been pretty much his whole career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he signed the big contract extension right when Ben Johnson got here, but after this year, the, the dead cap, the dead cap money goes down after this reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this like a maker break year for Kyle Gordon or is he on the hot seat?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your read on that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think it has to be, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, let's say this guy only plays, you know, five games this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can you really move forward again with that situation?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, like you said, like the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The money, it's only gonna get easier to cut him as the years go along in his contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how they do these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that I, you know, at this point that they're even thinking about that, having those conversations or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at a certain point, the guy's got to get down the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's bent your right Alex like it's been a thing his whole career he's he's dealt with all kinds of injuries going back to his rookie season it's it's just hard it's been hard to get him on the field and unfortunately when you got a new coaching staff if you go through two years and and you haven't really seen the field like they're going to be ready to move on they're making their plan be
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plancy, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they drafted Malik Muhammad a cornerback on day three this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been playing in the slot a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised if they try some other guys out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Jones has been playing in the slot a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a veteran who's been around the team for a few years now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They love Kyler when he's healthy, but he's got to be healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally, all right, let's go back to rookie mini camp and just kind of focusing on the rookies, Dylan Theneman, this E-looking as advertised and you mentioned Malik Muhammad a little bit and Zavion Thomas, but the new guys, I guess who's caught your eye with the new guys, what are your impressions with the rookie class?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Theneman seems like he's getting right in there
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like the vote you hear him on the field, the the vocal part of it is is really promising when he's been like right in front of us, I practice like you can feel that that he's communicating with the guys he's picking up what they're asking him to do pretty quickly and he didn't get like a ton of reps with the ones yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's more of a more of a a rookie thing, you know, they're going to make those guys earn it Elijah Hicks has been getting a lot of reps with the ones opposite Kobe Bryant and I imagine sometime maybe the first
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[SPEAKER_00]: first week, first 10 days of training camp, that's gonna, that's gonna switch and you're gonna see Zeetel and Thineman in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's, you know, the speed really does stand out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's a quick processor and you can tell that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other guys, I mean, yeah, like I mentioned, Xavier, the speed is really apparent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that'll be fun to see how Ben creates opportunities for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to see if he can win one of those jobs as a return man because that's an area where he's obviously had some success at the college level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who else we got out there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm blank
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a few defensive tackle, the linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jordan Vandenberg, he's quick man, like he's, he's really quick for a big dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can tell, I mean, he's like one of those, those gym rep, guys who's always in the weight room, like you can really tell and who knows with a six round pick at defensive tackle, he's probably not going to get that much playing time, at least not early
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you see why they would take a chance on a guy like that because he's got the athleticism that they need down at that spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did bear certainly need all the help that you've had in the middle of that line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about the free agents, the guys they traded for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just start with Garrett Bradbury because you know, the German Caleb Williams relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took some time to develop and you know, we saw some if he snaps kind of through throughout the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How's that relationship coming along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then are there any other veterans like Kobe Bryant or
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[SPEAKER_01]: or Dev and Bosch who are kind of making themselves felt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, it's funny that you say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking back to the practices we watched this spring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I saw a single snap hit the ground at any level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's first team, second team, third team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we don't get to watch every single practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly that hasn't been an issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like Garrett Bradbury is slotting in there pretty pretty seamlessly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much of that is Caleb's more comfortable in your two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Garrett's a veteran like he can probably go
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[SPEAKER_00]: to any team in the NFL and know what he needs to do to get those starting reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been he's been pretty rock solid so far, I'd say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I mean Kobe Bryant is kind of the guy that that you notice in the secondary there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a vocal guy too, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kobe Bryant and Jalen Johnson are going to have some fun together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can kind of see them out there on the field, like one of them makes a play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other ones write their celebrating with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of a fun dynamic that seems to be developing there between those two guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Kobe Bryant, a super bowl winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Johnson, obviously, a two-time pro bowler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if he can stay healthy, he should be a big part of this defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, he wasn't able to stay healthy much last season, but that's going to be kind of a little fun duo there if those guys are on the field together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, big picture now, are there any differences you're noticing between Ben Johnson's program year one, and now Ben Johnson's program year two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's done it, uh, has had the opportunity to self scout has had the opportunity to tweak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, are you noticing, are there any like super noticeable changes or,
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[SPEAKER_01]: are those things you think that are like a little bit more minor behind the scenes that that aren't like showing up big time on the grass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say it's very minimal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It very much feels the same as last year in terms of of how they're running things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just that everybody is a lot more comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, these guys aren't having to learn a new scheme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's on both sides of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got your same defensive coordinator too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like these guys are a lot more comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben said that one of the early practices like it was noticeable which guys were here last year and which guys are new and are trying to still trying to pick it up and that goes for You know that goes for rookies that also goes for the veteran free agent additions like the guys who were in this offense are very comfortable with it and that's only going to be a good thing when when you you get into training camp you get into the season like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just the quarterback, all these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's Ben Johnson asks a lot, there's a lot of little details that you think of all the motions and stuff and the angles they create in the run game, like that stuff is hard to figure out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why you saw it take a little time before they really hit their groove mid-season last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess also just big picture now that they are on this break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you looking for once training camp against?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking like Kyler Gordon to be healthy, but you know, some big picture things, what are you looking out of the Chicago Bears in training camp?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My biggest intrigue is going to be how Ben's going to use those three tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you add Sam Rush in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's another rookie who I should have mentioned earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, like he, the size is definitely noticeable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can move at that size.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you look at him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the narrative is that he's a blocking tight end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's very good locker, but he can catch the ball, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's going to be a weapon in terms of just like a chess piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to lead your team in receptions or anything like that most likely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to be dangerous just because he can do both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what why Ben brought him here is so that you can have those three interchangeable tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at what the Rams did last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with all that 13 personnel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that number, the number of snaps teams are running on the 13 is only going to go up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams were about 30% last year and that was like twice the rate as any other team and you're talking about the number one offense in football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody is going to try to replicate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why you saw a 22 tydans draft in this year, the most in like 20 something years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to see how Ben uses those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see once the pads come on which, you know, how are they interchangeable, who's lining up where and and and how is he using those three guys with with Colston with Colland with Sam Rush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: copycat league man copycat league that's the copycat they're going to copycat those ramps the not just everybody copycat and you know try and trade for a Miles Garrett type because you know is that the next thing that once people continue to realize the ramps saying f those pecs and continuing to win I wonder if that is going to be right like
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Ramses hate first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a currency to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is interesting that in a such a copycat league that that has not quite been copied just yet, even though they have been so successful with that FM pick strategy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean, thank you so, so much, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we do something called extra point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to you a little bit before we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have an extra point for our audience?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was thinking about this and at the top, you mentioned the crazy weather we've been having the power outages and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Were you in Chicago, Alex, in 2013, when there was that storm, the night that the Black Hawk's won the Stanley Cup?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, in 2013 the night the black hogs want to stand like up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually in Eugene, Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was telling somebody about this because the storm that blew through here the other day was like, you know, it's that time of year, it's like mid-June, it's hot, and I was driving home, like driving, I was trying to beat that storm home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, you know, driving west right into it, I see the giant shelf clock coming at me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, this isn't good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminded me so much of that
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the game where the Blackhawk scored what two goals in 17 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were losing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were losing and it was probably going to force a game seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I recall, I'm not the biggest hockey guy, but I do remember the Blackhawk's a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was game six wasn't it in Boston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in Boston, we're asked to totally remember this because I remember this because the power was out like everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I was going back to my parents house, we were supposed to have aunts and uncles, all kinds of people over to watch the game and the powers out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then we go to my aunts house and I guess they had power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they had power and then we get there and then I'll send the powers out there too and we're like, oh, no, what are we going to do if we.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We watched that game at like the only at ghados and new Linux and Italian place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like the only restaurant in town that had power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we watched the black cocks make that crazy come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were probably like the only people in there that night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's we've had some crazy weather these last couple of days and that had me thinking of that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, the videos from Streeter, scary stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scary stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The black hocks in the mid 2010s, also scary stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out Dave Bowlin, shout out Brian Beckle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you saw the 17 seconds, did you make it to the restaurant?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we did see that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did witness that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the craziest moments in Chicago sports history, I got to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bring the black hogs back to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I, you know, I've been watching some hockey lately, the Stanley Cup finals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big hockey guy like I said, but it is fun to watch as fast pace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, if the black hogs were good again, people would jump on that real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hockey is phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This Stanley Cup final has been phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better than the NBA finals in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that the next had the craziest comeback in the history of NBA playoff history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, size story to that, size story to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My power was out and I couldn't watch the game the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, what was up with the power being out in the title of sports history moments?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seventeen seconds and whatever the hell we're going to refer to that fourth quarter as.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a nickname for that fourth quarter yet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's going to be if there isn't already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that I'm sure the New Yorkers are coming up in something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Sean, thank you again for joining us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can our listeners or viewers on YouTube find your work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, number one had to Chicago Tribune.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can read all my stuff and all my colleagues there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at Sean underscore Hammond and you can find me also pretty much on all the socials.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on Blue Sky Instagram and Threads as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's everywhere, go find him, go read him, Sean Hammond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the drill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back with another episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, hopefully no more storms, hopefully Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: has his internet restored and we will be back to one big happy family will be full force until then stay safe out there people.