Latest / Investor Exchange / Goodland Group: Half-Year 2025 Net Loss Guidance
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're taking a close look at Goodland Group Limited, or GGL.
- 0:13Yep. We've got two key documents in front of us. They're profit guidance from May 9th, 2025.
- 0:19Which gave us a heads up. Exactly. And then the full unaudited half-year results
- 0:24they announced on May 15th covers the period ending March 31st this year.
- 0:29Okay, and our goal here is, well, to cut through the jargon right,
- 0:32get straight to what matters for understanding GGL now. Precisely.
- 0:36We'll unpack the financials for that first half, try to figure out why the numbers
- 0:39are what they are. And see what the company's saying about what's next.
- 0:42These reports, you know, they're more than just numbers. They give you a snapshot
- 0:45of operations, strategy, challenges.
- 0:48So we'll pull out the important stuff, the surprises, the key takeaways you
- 0:51need from these papers. Let's jump in.
- 0:53So, headline number. The profit guidance warned us. The results confirmed it.
- 0:58GGL reported a net loss for the first six months of their financial year.
- 1:02That's right. For the first half of FY 2025, the loss after tax came in at $2.353 million.
- 1:10A loss, yeah. Not ideal. But how does that stack up against last year?
- 1:14Well, that's where it gets interesting.
- 1:15It is a loss, but compared to the same period last year, 1H FY 2024, it's actually better.
- 1:21Better. How much better? Back then, the loss after-tax was S$3.531 million.
- 1:28So this year's S2.353 million dollar loss means they improved things by 1.178 million dollars. Wow.
- 1:37Okay. So a 33% improvement, roughly.
- 1:39Still red, but significantly less red. Exactly.
- 1:42Narrowed the loss considerably. All right. So that's the big question then, isn't it?
- 1:46Headline loss, but improving loss. What drove that change? What happened under
- 1:49the hood to cut that loss by over a million dollars?
- 1:52Yeah. Let's unpack that. Where do you want to start? Top line.
- 1:55Makes sense. Revenue. Did that help? Was it up? It was. Yeah. Yeah, slightly.
- 1:59Revenue increased by $2.3 million, which is about 6%. Went from $5.175 million
- 2:04last year to $5.467 million this half.
- 2:086%. Okay, not a massive jump. Does the commentary say why it went up?
- 2:11It doesn't. It's pretty specific.
- 2:13They say it was mainly due to the sale of a development property in the current period.
- 2:17Oh, okay. So not necessarily like broad-based growth across the board,
- 2:21more like one specific deal closing.
- 2:23Seems that way. It suggests that maybe revenue can be a bit lumpy.
- 2:26You know, depends when these specific property sales actually finalize. Got it.
- 2:30A single property sale helped the top line. How did that impact the costs directly
- 2:34related to sales and the gross profit?
- 2:37Well, cost of sales went up a little, which you'd expect, right?
- 2:40Costs tied to that revenue. But the gross profit, that jumped quite a bit more.
- 2:44More than the revenue jump. Oh, yeah.
- 2:46Gross profit went from $2.5365 million in 1HFY 2024 up to $6.53 million this
- 2:53half. That's a 45% increase.
- 2:56Wow. Okay. 45% jump in gross profit from just a 6% revenue rise.
- 3:00That tells you something about the profitability of that specific sale,
- 3:03doesn't it? Absolutely.
- 3:04It boosted their gross profit margins significantly, went from 7% last year
- 3:08to 10% this year. And the report says why? Yep.
- 3:11Higher selling prices from the sale of development properties sold in 1HFY 2025.
- 3:16So they didn't just sell a property, they sold it at a good price relative to
- 3:19its cost. Okay, so that specific deal was key for both revenue and margin improvement this period.
- 3:25What about other income? Anything else helping out?
- 3:30There were a couple of smaller positive contributors. Other operating income,
- 3:34it jumped percentage-wise, but off a small base.
- 3:37Up by $0.07 million to $0.1 million.
- 3:41And where did that come from? The notes say mainly from higher income gained
- 3:45from credit landlords in fair value through profit and loss,
- 3:49FETPL. and reversal of impairment.
- 3:51Also, finance income was up a bit, too. Okay, FVTPL, let's quickly explain that.
- 3:56Fair value through profit and loss.
- 3:58What does that mean for GGL here? Good point.
- 4:01Basically, these are investments, like those credit link notes,
- 4:03where any change in their market value hits the profit and loss statement directly
- 4:07each period, whether they sold them or not.
- 4:09So the value of those notes went up, or they paid out income and that flowed
- 4:13straight to the bottom line. Exactly.
- 4:14It suggests those specific financial assets performed well during this period.
- 4:18Got it. So we've got slightly higher revenue, much better gross margin from
- 4:23that one sale, a bit more other income.
- 4:25But that S1.178 million dollar improvement in the loss, was that mainly it?
- 4:31Or was there a big cost saving somewhere? Ah, now we get to the main event, really. Yeah.
- 4:36The single biggest factor driving that reduced loss was finance costs.
- 4:41How big a factor? Huge. Finance costs decreased by $70 million. dollars.
- 4:46That's a 48 percent drop compared to the same period last year.
- 4:49Went from nearly 1.7 million dollars down to about 788 million dollars. Wow, 48 percent.
- 4:55That's massive. 788 million dollar reduction just there.
- 4:58That accounts for almost, well, almost two-thirds of the total improvement in
- 5:01the loss. Pretty much. It was the most significant swing factor.
- 5:04And the report tells us why. Which was?
- 5:06It says mainly due to lower bank loan interest from development properties,
- 5:10as well as from repayment of bank loans during the period.
- 5:12Okay, so two things there. They paid back some loans, which obviously cuts interest
- 5:15payments, and maybe got better rates on the specific loans tied to development.
- 5:20That seems to be the implication.
- 5:21Lower interest burden overall. That's critical. Because the property sale,
- 5:25that's maybe a one-off boost for this period.
- 5:27But lower finance costs...
- 5:30Could that be more sustainable? Or does it depend on, you know,
- 5:35interest rates staying low or them not borrowing more?
- 5:38That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? The report ties it to specific
- 5:41repayments and development loans.
- 5:42If they need to ramp up borrowing for new projects or if market rates climb.
- 5:46Then those costs could easily go back up again.
- 5:49Definitely something to watch. Absolutely. Adds a layer of risk if future growth
- 5:53needs a lot more debt. Okay.
- 5:54Any other big movers on the cost side or income side?
- 5:58Admin expenses were pretty flat. stable year-on-year, didn't really move the needle.
- 6:03And their associates, investments in other companies? Those actually helped a bit too.
- 6:07Their share of results from associates improved by 0.08 million dollars,
- 6:11about 16%, up to 0.542 million dollar profit contribution.
- 6:16Why the improvement there? Pretty straightforward explanation in the notes.
- 6:19Just a better performance from those associated companies compared to the prior
- 6:22period. They earned more profit, so GGL's share was higher.
- 6:25Okay, let's try and sum up the why for that better loss number.
- 6:29It feels like a few things helped, but one thing really dominated.
- 6:32That's a good way to put it. The overall improvement, yeah, it came from higher
- 6:36gross profit thanks to that well-priced property sale. Better margin there. Right.
- 6:41Plus a bit more income from financial assets, finance income,
- 6:45better results from associates.
- 6:47But overshadowing all that was the huge drop in finance costs.
- 6:51That $0.8 million saving from lower interest and loan repayments.
- 6:56Exactly. That was the key factor that really pushed the loss down compared to
- 6:59last year, offsetting the ongoing admin costs and the remaining interest payments.
- 7:04Okay, that gives us a good handle on the profit and loss side.
- 7:07But what about the company's actual financial position, the balance sheet,
- 7:12comparing March 31st this year to six months earlier, September 2024?
- 7:16Any major shifts in assets or liabilities? Oh, definitely.
- 7:20And it connects right back to what we're just talking about with property development.
- 7:23The most striking change on the asset side is development properties for sale.
- 7:27The stuff they're building to sell later. Precisely.
- 7:31That line item jumped by $9.7 million in just six months, reached est $226 million total.
- 7:40And the reason? They're building more.
- 7:42Yep. The report says it reflects development costs incurred on new and ongoing
- 7:46projects during the period.
- 7:49So they are actively spending money, putting capital into constructing these future assets.
- 7:54Okay, significant investment there.
- 7:55Any big decreases on the asset side to offset that? A few movements.
- 7:59Investment properties dipped slightly, about $75 million.
- 8:03Why was that? Mainly currency effects. They mentioned a weaker Malaysia ringgit
- 8:07causing a translation loss of investment properties in T-City.
- 8:10Ah, the translation loss. So the value in ringgit might be stable,
- 8:14but when you convert it back to Singapore dollars for the report,
- 8:17it looks lower because the ringgit weakened. Exactly that.
- 8:19It's an accounting impact based on exchange rates. Makes sense. What else went down?
- 8:23Investments in associates decreased by F1.7 million dollars.
- 8:27That was mainly because they received dividends from those associates,
- 8:30which gets deducted from the investment value on the books. Okay.
- 8:33Cash came in from dividends. Right.
- 8:35Also, those financial assets at FETPL we talked about earlier,
- 8:39they decreased by S to 1.5 million dollars.
- 8:42Why? Because the notes say there was a maturity of credit-linked notes.
- 8:49So, those investments finished their term, likely paid out cash.
- 8:53Got it. And they sold something else, too.
- 8:55Yes. An asset they had classified as held for sale was actually sold during the period.
- 9:00So, that S1.2 million dollar asset is now off the books.
- 9:04Okay, so assets shifting around. More money going into building properties,
- 9:07cash coming in from dividends and maturing investments, one specific asset sold.
- 9:12What about the other side of the coin liabilities, particularly debt?
- 9:16That's the flip side of the development spending.
- 9:18Bank borrowings increased significantly, up by S9.6 million dollars over the
- 9:22six months, reaching S100.5 million dollars. And the reason ties back to the building. Directly.
- 9:27The report says it was mainly due to net higher drawdowns from banks for the
- 9:31ongoing development of property.
- 9:33They borrowed more money to fund that construction activity.
- 9:35Makes sense. Any other liability changes?
- 9:37Trade payables, money owed to suppliers, decreased by S1.8 million dollars.
- 9:42They said that was due to making higher payments during the period.
- 9:45Okay, so more debt, paying suppliers faster maybe.
- 9:48How did all this affect their overall working capital position,
- 9:51you know, short-term liquidity?
- 9:53Networking capital actually decreased by a mess $6.1 million.
- 9:57That reflects the impact of taking on more debt and tying up cash in those development
- 10:01properties, offset a bit by cash changes.
- 10:04It suggests more of their resources are locked into that ongoing building work.
- 10:08Which leads us straight to the cash flow statement.
- 10:11The P&L shows profit or loss balance sheet as a snapshot, but cash flow tells
- 10:15us where the actual money went.
- 10:17How did their core operations fare in terms of cash this half?
- 10:20This is a really big contrast to the previous year. In this first half,
- 10:241HFY 2025, GGL actually used S$17.0 million in cash from their operating activities.
- 10:31Used $17 million, but didn't they generate cash last year? They did.
- 10:35In 1HFY 2024, they generated S$16.0 million from operations.
- 10:40So that's a massive swing, from plus $16 million to minus $17 million.
- 10:44Whoa, okay, what was burning through all that cash in operations this time?
- 10:48The report points primarily to one thing, changes of development property of $12.2 million.
- 10:54Ah, there it is again. That's the actual cash going out the door to build those
- 10:59properties we saw growing on the balance sheet. Exactly.
- 11:01That physical investment consumed a huge chunk of cash. Plus,
- 11:05other working capital shifts contributed to the outflow, too.
- 11:08So if operations used up a $17 million, how did they plug that hole?
- 11:14Where did the cash come from to cover that? Plus things like interest and dividends.
- 11:17It came from two main areas, investing and financing activities.
- 11:21Investing activities actually brought in cash, about F4.8 million dollar net. How?
- 11:27That included the S1.5 million dollars from those matured FVTPL notes,
- 11:32the S1.2 million dollars from selling that asset held for sale,
- 11:35and S2.2 million dollars in dividends received from associates.
- 11:38Okay, so almost $5 million generated from selling things and getting dividends.
- 11:42Still leaves a big gap from the S-17 million dollar operating outflow, though.
- 11:46It does. And the rest, the biggest piece, came from financing activities.
- 11:49Those generated S-6.1 million dollars in cash overall.
- 11:52Financing, meaning debt. Primarily, yes. They drew down S-13.7 million dollars
- 11:59in new bank loans during the period.
- 12:0113 million in new debt? Wow. Yeah.
- 12:04Now, some cash went out in financing, too.
- 12:06S$4.2 million for repaying other loans. S$1.3 million in actual cash interest paid.
- 12:13Right. The P&L showed lower accrued cost, but they still paid cash interest.
- 12:17Exactly. And they also paid out S$2.1 million in dividends to their own shareholders during this half.
- 12:22But the net effect of all that financing activity was $6.1 million inflow,
- 12:28thanks to those big new loan drawdowns. So pulling the cash flow story together,
- 12:32they spent heavily on building properties, which burned through cash from operations.
- 12:36They offset some of that by selling adjustments and getting dividends.
- 12:40But the main way they funded it all was by taking on almost $14 million in new
- 12:44bank debt. That sums it up perfectly.
- 12:46The balance sheet shows the result, more properties, more debt.
- 12:49The P&L shows the improved loss number. And the cash flow shows the activity
- 12:53spending on building, funding with borrowing.
- 12:55It's all connected. And briefly, did the performance breakdown by business segment reflect this?
- 13:00Like property development being key? Yes, it did.
- 13:03The segment results provided show the property development segment improved
- 13:06significantly, flipping from a loss last year to a profit this year.
- 13:11Which lines up with that key property sale driving revenue and profit. Exactly.
- 13:16And the property investment segment also saw its loss narrow a bit.
- 13:20So the segments mirror the overall group story. Okay, let's pivot to the future then.
- 13:25What does GGL say in their outlook section about the market and their plans
- 13:29for the next year or so? They give a quick tour of their main markets.
- 13:33For Singapore, they see the private housing market still rising in early 2025, but slowing down.
- 13:39The price growth eased off quite a bit. And they see that slowdown as good,
- 13:44bad. They frame it as potentially supportive.
- 13:47Maybe a more stable, less frantic market is better for pricing their projects.
- 13:51Okay. What about Malaysia?
- 13:52In Malaysia, they're forecasting moderate growth for 2025.
- 13:56Driven by local demand, government housing incentives, stable interest rates.
- 14:00They specifically call out Penang. Penang, why?
- 14:03Seeing strong demand for commercial property there, apparently linked to high-tech
- 14:07industries moving in, pushing up values, attracting investors. Interesting.
- 14:12And Cambodia. For Cambodia, especially Siem Reap, they sound quite positive,
- 14:18mentioning things like easier foreign ownership rules, affordable prices,
- 14:22government efforts to booth tourism and investment. And infrastructure helps, too.
- 14:26Yeah, they highlighted the new airport near Siem Reap as a factor boosting demand
- 14:30and property values across the board there, residential commercial hotels.
- 14:34So it's a bit of a mixed picture across the region, slower growth in Singapore,
- 14:38maybe some specific bright spots in Malaysia and Cambodia.
- 14:41Given all that and the financials we discussed, what's their game plan for the next 12 months?
- 14:46Well, they explicitly say they expect ongoing challenges. They flag macroeconomic
- 14:51uncertainties and rising input costs, which isn't surprising.
- 14:55So how are they responding?
- 14:56Their focus, they say, is on three things. Prudent capital deployment,
- 15:00timely project delivery, and strict cost controls.
- 15:03Sounds pretty defensive. Prudent capital, strict costs.
- 15:07Are they still looking for growth? They say they will, but the key word is cautiously.
- 15:12They'll cautiously pursue growth opportunities locally and regionally,
- 15:16but only if they align with strategy and offer good risk-adjusted returns.
- 15:21So caution is the watchword.
- 15:23Defense first. Maybe some very careful offense. Seems like it.
- 15:27The priority is financial discipline in what they see as a challenging environment.
- 15:32And that caution, that focus on saving cash, showed up in their dividend decision too, right? It did.
- 15:37They decided not to declare an interim dividend for this first half. And the reason given.
- 15:43Explicitly stated, the board adopted a prudent approach to conserve cash amidst
- 15:48the current challenging business environment.
- 15:50Ties right back into that overall strategy. Okay, so let's wrap this up.
- 15:54We've seen GGL navigate a tricky period.
- 15:56They managed to cut their losses significantly compared to last year.
- 16:00Mostly thanks to that big drop in finance costs, plus that one profitable property
- 16:04sale helping the margins. But at the same time, the balance sheet and cash flow
- 16:08show heavy investment pouring into building future properties.
- 16:12Which required a big cash outflow from operations and was mainly funded by taking
- 16:18on quite a bit of new debt.
- 16:19And looking ahead, they see ongoing uncertainties, rising costs,
- 16:24some mixed signals in their markets. So the plan is be careful.
- 16:28Prudent capital, control costs, deliver projects on time, and only very cautiously
- 16:34look for new opportunities.
- 16:35Financial discipline is the name of the game. Which really leaves you with a
- 16:38key question, doesn't it?
- 16:39They're investing heavily in these development properties that take serious
- 16:43money and they've increased their debt to do it.
- 16:45So how will that strategy of prudent capital deployment and strict cost controls
- 16:50balance out against the very real need to keep funding those projects?
- 16:55Because those projects are their future revenue stream.
- 16:57It's a definite tension. They're a real tightrope walk. They benefited from
- 17:00lower finance costs this period, but they still need to spend significantly
- 17:04to build that inventory for tomorrow's sales.
- 17:06How they manage that balance between cost control and necessary investment.
- 17:11That's definitely something to watch as they go through the rest of their financial year.