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Episode 55. The Ten Commandments II & Frodo Baggins vs. Hodor (Feat. Joshua Marsella, Author) · High n' Dry Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_03: Josh Roller.
0:16
SPEAKER_03: Who do you love?
0:17
SPEAKER_03: Who do I love?
0:18
SPEAKER_03: It's not my wife.
0:20
SPEAKER_03: No.
0:21
SPEAKER_03: Can we put her in the room?
0:24
SPEAKER_02: Trying to think of like.
0:26
SPEAKER_02: Have you guys you guys do you ever do like uh have you done any Lord of the Rings people?
0:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you have.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: We actually have not.
0:34
SPEAKER_01: Didn't we do Gandalf once?
0:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we did do Gandalf, but Gandalf's the only one.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, he's the only one.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: So we got more.
0:39
SPEAKER_02: How about like uh like Frodo versus versus the Quake Roadsman?
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
0:47
SPEAKER_02: Do Frodo versus like I don't know.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you've done like Harry Potter or uh any other famous oh Frodo versus Willow from uh Oh, you're talking about his name.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's that?
1:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't think his name is Willow.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Remember the actor, yeah.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: Um he he's been in a lot.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: Frodo versus Fredo from The Godfather.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: Fredo Frodo versus Fredo.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Frodo versus Alfredo.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Who could Frodo fight?
1:20
SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
1:20
SPEAKER_02: What's his name?
1:21
SPEAKER_02: I know it.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: It's it's Willow Offgood, yeah.
1:23
SPEAKER_02: So it's Warwick Davis, but it's Willow Offgood is his name.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: Two short, you know, two short legendary dudes or something.
1:31
SPEAKER_03: Two short legendary characters.
1:33
SPEAKER_03: They're both very short.
1:34
SPEAKER_03: They're all very short.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we should maybe we should put Frodo against someone who's very tall and make it a like a uh a David and Goliath type story.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: That's well, I mean, Sam's gonna show up eventually, so well we can't get too far into it.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we can't get too far.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Um Frodo versus how about um Spike from Cowboy Bebop?
1:54
SPEAKER_00: That's been big lately.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna shoot Frodo.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: He's just gonna shoot Frodo.
2:01
SPEAKER_02: Hodor.
2:02
SPEAKER_02: Hodor versus Hodo versus versus Frodo.
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SPEAKER_00: I like it.
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SPEAKER_00: Frodor.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like it.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you guys are good, I'm good.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's do it.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay, here you come.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's see if I can.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy! Well, here we go.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, I like it.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: You guys ready to do this then?
2:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's go.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: All right, here we go.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: So, hey everyone out there, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: We're back from our break.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: We've missed you.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: Our tens of fans.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: We're so glad to be back now.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh with me as always, James Crosslin.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: James, what's going on?
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh, not much.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's been it's been a good holiday recuperating session.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: I've I've really enjoyed just kind of taking a second, appreciating where I am, you know, coming up with um with some good ideas for the future.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Might be moving to California here shortly.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, getting into some charitable giving.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: It's been a it's been a really exciting time.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: That's what's up.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: That's what's up.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Things are really turning around over there.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm happy.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm happy for you.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, and joining us this week, we have a returning guest, Joshua Marsala, the author of Hunger for Death.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: New novel just came out past November.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Hey Josh, what's going on, man?
3:14
SPEAKER_02: Hey, fellas.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh craziness going on around here.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh just a lot of uh unfortunate things going on, basement flooding and all this stuff.
3:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:26
SPEAKER_02: My son uh almost lost the tip of his finger the other day, shutting it in a door.
3:31
SPEAKER_02: We're uh we're staying positive and we're uh you know keeping on.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: We've clearly been cursed by a witch, and we're just trying to survive that.
3:41
SPEAKER_02: Do you have any scenes?
3:43
SPEAKER_02: We're looking for like an antidote or whatever you call it, anti-curse.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: Blessing.
3:49
SPEAKER_01: Do you have any scenes in any of your books where someone shuts their finger in a car door and almost gets it severed?
3:56
SPEAKER_01: Because that would be a great that's a great horror scene because it's so possible for any of us to happen to any of us at any time.
4:03
SPEAKER_02: No, those things just happen in real life, you know, not my stories.
4:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm not that imaginative.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: It's too scary.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Too real.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: Just I had a close call.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: I was closing the door with my pants off, and I can't even bring it up anymore.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: All right, well, cool.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, and uh uh yeah, no, but uh it's cool being back from the break.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: Um had you know, it was nice just getting to chill for a minute.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: So it's cool to get back.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: I honestly I'm really excited to get back at it.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: I got a bunch of agents out there with full manuscripts, and I'm sick of them being on vacation.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: I'd like to get back to work.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: It's the new year, they'll be back by like the 20th, 20th.
4:45
SPEAKER_01: By Martin Luther King Jr.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: I could be dead by then.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: They'll be they'll be back in the office.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: All right.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, I gotta actually gotta say, one of the coolest things that we did during break, Ryan and I tried uh Miracle Berries, which uh I don't know if anyone's heard of Miracle Berries, but they change the uh the the taste buds, they change your taste buds.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh your sweet receptors also pick up sour and bitter, so you could do things like eat limes and lemons and grapefruit straight, and they taste like candy.
5:17
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: It was weird.
5:19
SPEAKER_01: It was weird.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: 15 bucks.
5:21
unknown: Oh wow.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, like I took one home and then for the because you know I'm always concerned about my figure and whatnot, I took one and then just downed a whole bowl of just straight up Greek yogurt, nothing in it, and it just tasted like normal vanilla yogurt.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: It was it was correct.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: No calories.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: No calories.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: All right, but anyway, so for those of you who are joining us for the first time, this is how this show works.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: We start every episode off with a moral debate, a conundrum, a little philosophy.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then it devolves into a fist fight, as those things often do.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: But before we do that, we gotta get a little drunk and we gotta get a little high.
5:58
SPEAKER_00: Josh, I hope you remembered to bring something.
6:01
SPEAKER_00: So, James, uh, what are you smoking this week?
6:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh so this week I'm actually, I think this is gonna be the first time I'm using uh uh an actual dab rig instead of my my pen.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I'm gonna be smoking a batter concentrate called Red Wedding.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: Which is apropos.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: Very good.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: All right.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh Josh Man, what are you uh what are you bringing to the table?
6:28
SPEAKER_02: I am drinking a mason jar of some homemade apple pie moonshine that sister made, and she gives them away for Christmas every year.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: So nice.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's delicious.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: All right, all right.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: And I'll be joining you guys this week with Bacardi Spiced Rum.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: It's just it looks different.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: Did they change the label?
6:51
SPEAKER_01: They might have.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just Bicardi, spiced rum.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be delicious.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: It's very smooth.
6:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, we'll get the job done.
6:57
SPEAKER_01: We made peony claws with it.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all right.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: So pour them up, boys.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: All right, so this first one goes out to Carl Urban, Cher, and our guest this week, Joshua Marsala.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining us, man.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is a little spicy.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: How's the how's that uh spicy?
7:17
SPEAKER_00: How's the moonshine?
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SPEAKER_02: It's good.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: It uh yeah, it's tasty, it's smooth.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, because they'll don't make like you try and buy that moonshine from like uh liquor stores and stuff.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: It's just not the same.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't work.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: You gotta it's gotta be made in someone's bathtub.
7:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gotta be made in Appalachia.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:37
SPEAKER_02: Appalachia.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: There was a stock car chase involved, you know, something like this.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: James, how was it?
7:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
7:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've had it a few times that just per just using it personally.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: It's great.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: It tastes sweet.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's a really it's a really sweet tasting batter.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: It's really nice.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, so this second one goes out to our newest guests, and thanks to our previous guest.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, we've been lighting up all over Jersey and New York.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: So here this one's the Jersey.
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SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh boy.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: Hey, thanks, New Jersey, for listening.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh the entire state of New Jersey.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was the entire state of New Jersey, yeah.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: Like nine million people.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how many people are in New Jersey.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: And finally, load 'em up.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Our third toast, third hit, third shot.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: This is the guest toast.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: Josh man, what's it too?
8:33
SPEAKER_02: Um let's do uh instead of someone to uh good health and to get him through this this uh crappy pandemic.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: Thank God it's over, right?
8:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's get through your scrap, man.
8:49
unknown: Just kidding.
8:50
SPEAKER_02: Cheers to get him through.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: And I hope that X on your family wears off here pretty soon.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it should.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: We got a bead on the witch.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: She lives in a swamp outside of town.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: Rounding up all the all the villagers from the library and getting them getting them torches, pitchforks.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna go out there to carry it.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: I'll be good.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: I'll be good.
9:20
SPEAKER_00: That last one went down the wrong pipe a little bit.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: But we're good.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: We're good.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: All right.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: All right, my yeah, I just came back from the gym, so my body is now properly confused, has no idea what we're trying to do with it.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, poison now?
9:36
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
9:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
9:39
SPEAKER_00: All right, so moving into our first question, or not our first question, our first part of this podcast.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: I got a question for you guys.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: So, um, in this particular scenario, for whatever reason, you guys head off into the mountains and you come back down having been able to write your own Ten Commandments.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Sweet.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: And you come down and you're gonna display your Ten Commandments and everyone's gonna try and follow them.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: What are some of the top you I mean, if you know them all off the top of your head and you want to bust them out, go for it.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: But what are some of your highlights?
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Actually, writer I've got some stone tablets around here somewhere.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: What are your ten commandments that you're bringing down and going to uh force on your believers and followers?
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Force on them.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Guests first, Josh, what do you what are your commandments?
10:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so I would have to say one of them is uh something that's really lacking uh in today's environment, and that's uh you know, respect others, respect differences amongst people, you know.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Um not everybody's the same, not everybody thinks the same, they all come from the same background, environments.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: Um I'd even go as far as saying embrace differences, um, because that's what makes humanity and the world an exciting place is you know, getting to step out of your comfort zone and uh kind of you know explore the world and see things you've never seen before and and you know, music and art and food and stuff like that, you know.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's a good one.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Very solemn, very solemn.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: This is an argument for diversity.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, I it's it's very clear to people who believe the same things we do that there's so much value in diversity of experiences, of per perspectives, of you know, knowledge and skills.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: But for a lot of people, they don't get that diversity, and I think for it's kind of hard for them to understand.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's tough.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: I I think you're right that there should be a lot more diversity and understanding, and and yeah, great.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: Definitely, especially when we it's hard to travel.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, and if you've lived in the same little corner of the world your entire life, um it's super hard to think that way.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: So definitely you coming down from the mountains with it on some stone might help that.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: It might help.
12:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think too, a big part of the whole the whole uh, you know, this it's it's a scary thing for especially for older people because they they spent 40-50 years in their own little bubble, and then all of a sudden they're picking up a phone that they just got and they're seeing all these different cultures and all these different things, and they feel like they're being replaced when in reality we're all just finally able to come together on like the screen and we're able to see each other.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: They they kind of forget like we're not only seeing them, but they're also seeing us, you know what I mean?
12:44
SPEAKER_02: So instead of being these bigoted, you know, people that think they're being replaced by everybody else and all these other cultures, understand that they're just as interested in you.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: And if you're just gonna be an asshole, you know, that's what they're gonna see.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna see you think you're some friggin' some asshole, you know, instead of uh, you know, showing them what you're made of, you know, show them your fucking moonshine.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
13:08
SPEAKER_02: Show them what you got.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: That needs to be on a shirt.
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SPEAKER_02: Show is the moonshine.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's your moonshine.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I really like that.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, except for that one uncontacted island where they just fire arrows immediately.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: That's uh I hope those guys are doing good.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Sentinel Island.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:33
SPEAKER_01: That's called Sentinel Island.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yes, that's a great point.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: I feel like the people who are like that you were describing, the older folks who didn't really have access to a diversity of perspectives, uh, they were pretty sure that their perspective was right.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: They were kind of told their entire lives that this is the correct perspective.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: And now they're seeing a bunch of different perspectives and and people's uh ideas and perceptions that have spawned from those perspectives.
14:02
SPEAKER_01: And their knee-jerk reaction is no, that is wrong.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: I was told that was wrong.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: If if if if that's wrong, then I'm wrong.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: And I would grew up in a culture that if you were wrong, uh you're bad.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, instead of if you're wrong, you're human, and therefore it's time to like introspect and learn and and change.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, they came from a totally different time, and that's no excuse.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not making excuses for them.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but uh certainly it's crazy to think about their perspective, you know?
14:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: Definitely, definitely.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, James, what about you?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: What's uh one of the highlights of your tablets?
14:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's just the it's just the tablets from the old testament.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: It's just that, it's just that again.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: I think they're perfect the way they were.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: Um why would I need to change anything?
14:57
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty cool when you're on the other side of the tablets.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: No God before me.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
15:05
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
15:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but really, uh, I would say um, you know, Josh, he killed it.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because uh I I was also going to be along the track of we really need to uh true acknowledge that each one of us is a person with their own experiences and perspectives.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: It's that acknowledgement, that basic human understanding that I feel a lot of people have not had an opportunity to foster, right?
15:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, society doesn't really foster that feeling, it fosters something else completely.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: Um so I I my commandment would be to uh with everything you do, approach it with the idea that the person across from you is a human being who deserves just your support.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, support each other.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: Definitely, yeah, definitely foster community and we don't have it.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: We we don't really have that anymore.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: We're definitely uh we're an isolated group, and those feelings of isolation have let us down a very bad road right now, but you know, who knows?
16:18
SPEAKER_01: I think this is part of the uh commodification of everything.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: Essentially, everything has been monetized and therefore turned into a resource and is therefore considered scarce.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: And so for every so everybody kind of feels at odds struggling with what we think of as scarce, whether that's time or money or food or NFTs, what NFTs, sure, fucking whatever.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, but we all see each other as opponents in this huge we literally have a word for it, we call it a rat race, you know.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh we see each other as opponents rather than uh than people who should be cooperated with.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, for sure.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, well let's say then for me, um, I think a big one for me is uh our culture, we're very okay.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: Like we'll complain for a second, but then we just kind of let it slide and we let the earth or mother nature take one for the team.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, like it's because we we need this particular car battery, or you know, I I want you know these straws, or uh, you know, we just gotta dump this one time.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: Don't come after my straws now.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: In my commandments, uh yeah, Mother Earth shall not take one for the team.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, even if it makes your life a little easier to dump here or do this or kill that species.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: No.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: That's a great commandment.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: No, the no taking them for the team.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: You either build within, around, or alongside, or not at all.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, just it doesn't happen.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: Have you heard of permaculture?
17:54
SPEAKER_01: Permaculture?
17:56
SPEAKER_01: It's it's kind of a subset of like botany and gardening and and and agriculture.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Permaculture like fosters a relationship between people and nature that is non-invasive and cooperative, kind of like a cooperative, like the cooperate cooperation of people.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: It's cooperation with nature where you both can serve each other.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: And if you're interested in that kind of like eco-friendly living, permaculture is a great thing to look up.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: I think when we start our friend compound, I'm going to I'm going to uh have some permaculture people like be like, if you whatever permaculture projects you want to do, I will fund the shit out of those permaculture projects.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: Come live with us, you know?
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:35
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm passionate about.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: No, I like it.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've always felt like uh we're the one species on the planet earth.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: You know, supposedly we're all from the earth, we all, you know, we're put here and and whatever, or we evolved here, but we're the one species out of the millions and millions of species on this planet that is actually destroying our home.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: And we're the ones that, you know, you think about zebras and ants and all these other things, they fit into their ecosystems, but mankind is the only one that's actually like doing harm.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: And that just that's why I've always had this like deep, like, I don't know, this feeling that we were either not from here naturally or we were put here as like some sort of like experiment because we just don't we just don't fit here, like nothing, yeah.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: You know, like why didn't one other not even one other species on this planet like evolve to the point where they can do some sort of harm, you know what I mean?
19:41
SPEAKER_02: Everyone else fits into this the system, and it's really bizarre and it's really mysterious.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: But I I was I was thinking about that as you mentioned that.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Um that's so interesting.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or some monkey at some point ate a psychedelic mushroom and now I gotta pay taxes.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure that's I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's just to think back like that far, like, man, like what are the odds?
20:05
SPEAKER_02: Not only what are the odds of this planet being able to harbor life uh in such a big you know galaxy, but what are the odds?
20:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, like look around you, like look at all this crap that we own and all this stuff.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: Like we're the only ones that live like this out of all the animals, all the creatures on the planet.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: It's so unnatural.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't you're so right.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: You're so right, well, it's right, man.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, we were dropped off by the Anunnaki to harvest gold for their ships, right?
20:33
SPEAKER_00: And then we got high on mushrooms, and they're like, Well, we can't kill them now.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: You watch a lot of the same YouTube channels I do.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: That's um oh, who was this?
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Uh Trevor Moore.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Trevor Moore.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: Rest in peace, Trevor Moore.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Rest in peace.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Ah, poor guy.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: A very tortured artist.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Um what was I gonna say?
20:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it it all comes back to tool use, right?
20:54
SPEAKER_01: As soon as we realized that some resources could we could use those resources to uh harvest other resources.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh as soon as that happened, uh, that was where we fucked up.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: As soon as we realized that some resources could be other resources, everyone's like, oh shit, we can turn fire into meat if we like burn a forest down and all the animals run out.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: As soon as we learned that, we were like, let's burn all the fucking forests.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Next to beavers to our environment.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Beavers are there with us.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, like I just saw a thing today.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: It just I woke up, uh, you turn on a flip through like the Google news, and it was just this like fucking news feed, newsweek article where species that went extinct in 2021.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like that's not a that's not like that's that shouldn't just be a little flip through, then this should be a tragedy.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: And Kim Kardashian in a robe right next to it.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Climate change is like you're right, like very little of the news cycle is devoted to climate change.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: I I don't remember the statistics, but I listened to Behind the Bastards podcast, which I recommend.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, that you know, they do one of their episodes was on you know, the people who are destroying the climate.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: And and they talked kind of how about about how things got reported in the news, and climate news is incredibly low.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: Very just it should be on every news channel.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: Fucking 15 hours out of the day should be devoted to guess what, everybody?
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh another thing is never gonna be around again because we can't stop making plastic bags.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, it's funny because a lot of the like the old timers are like, you know, when I was a kid, I used to go swimming in that lake, and now you can't do any of that.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: And the kids, and it's like, and then you'll see them in the grocery store, and they're like, Where's my plastic bags?
22:50
SPEAKER_02: I just want my plastic bags.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: Motherfucker, this is why you can't swim in the lake, you know, and it's just like it's this this they just don't see, you know, they just don't see it for what it is, and the fact that our lifestyles for so long have done so much damage, and now it's up to future generations to basically go back to you know, either either evolve our technology to a better place or go back to where it was.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, before the industrial revolution is such a short time period, yeah.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Between then and now showed us all these things, and they're like, but if you keep using it, you're gonna die.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: But luckily, I got to use it before I checked out.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: This is your problem.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm only gonna be here for 80 years, so that you know, that'll be good.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't really care about the rest of the people, you know.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, you know, that's such a good point.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: I think part of it is the put is the focus on public schools.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Like they were around for like the birth of like nationwide public schooling.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Like that wasn't a that wasn't always a thing, you know, and a thing that these public schools didn't always focus on, and that our generation kind of got sometimes if you lived in a good neighborhood, was like critical thinking training.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, not every group of people got that, especially if they were low income in the past.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: And so a lot of these people don't know how to procedurally think through like the the extended consequences of a problem, because yeah, that's a skill.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: You have to like practice that skill, you have to develop it and be observant and purposeful.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: And and they just kind of weren't taught it.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: And there was no focus for their generation on it because you know they were workers, you know, they weren't supposed to be academics who were thinking about things too much because that causes problems because money, yeah, yeah.
24:33
SPEAKER_02: And that's not in itself is isn't necessarily a bad thing.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, society needs all these different things, like every every single person out there can't be like a college graduate and stuff, but at the same time, they shouldn't be pinned against each other.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: Like everyone should be critical educated.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the educated critical thinkers should stand with the laborers and the hard workers and understand that we all need each other.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: And like just because you're a hard worker or you work at a factory or you build houses doesn't mean you should look look down upon the educated, or you know, like we need doctors, we need computer techs, we need all these things, but we also need people who can build houses.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: But for some reason, there's this great divide of like labor versus you know, and yes, right.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: The value of labor is a huge disparative, yeah, there's a huge gap between that.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, it keeps us pitted against each other versus like yes, that's dealing with the guy who's signing the checks.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Agree with both of you.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, you take everyone on earth, you give them a college education, and you make them the hardest worker you've ever seen, someone's still gonna have to be working at McDonald's.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that person needs to fucking be paid.
25:42
SPEAKER_01: Until we value a ditch digger or a fast food worker or someone who's doing hard labor in a warehouse as much as a doctor because they make our society run, we're not gonna have that because there's gonna be a disparity.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: We have to val society has to value those people the same, and it doesn't.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
25:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I worked at a I worked at the VA hospital nearby, and I was I worked, I started out uh as a temp and then I got a job as a housekeeper.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: And one thing I realized was without the housekeepers doing what they're doing and you know, the janitors and all them, doctors, nurses, all those people, if they didn't have people coming up behind them cleaning up, the hospital shut down in a day because there's standards that and and it they shouldn't be treated any lower because they're just as important.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: Because you know what I mean.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: If someone can't if someone's job relies on someone else's job to be done right, you know what I mean?
26:34
SPEAKER_02: That's an even playing field, right?
26:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, but it's this it's this system of like I said, it's that pin them against each other.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this doctor's so high and mighty, he gets paid so much, and a lot of that has to do with like education and stuff.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Like if education was free, everybody would be able to go to college who wanted to be a doctor.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: Not everybody would make it because you know it's a very hard school, but at least the options there, and it's not just these, you know what I mean, these people are wealthy and right.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, for one, no, I I wouldn't be able to be a doctor.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: If we just opened it to whoever wants whoever wanted to be a doctor, that would be great because I have no interest in being a doctor, and I bet there's someone out there who's like, I would fucking kill to be a doctor.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, please be a fucking doctor.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: It's like the whole thing.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: By doing that, you're opening the door that people closed a long time ago.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: It's true.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: It's a family business now.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to high and dry, everybody.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: That was more like low and dry.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: Now that you're feeling all good.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: So now that everyone's deep into an existential crisis, don't worry, it's getting better.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I don't know.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: If we change everything about our culture today, we might have a chance.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: It has to be within the next like 12 hours.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of close.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh so now that you're feeling good, you're deep in your existential crisis, you're on your way to work right now.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's time for uh another shot, another toast, another hit.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I gotta do more.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: And this one goes out to our fighters this week.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: We have Frodo of Lord of the Rings, Frodo Baggins against Hodor.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he has watched it.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, he had a name, like it.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, and cheers.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Cheers, cheers enough.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: Because he was only Hodor once he had his his uh time seizure.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: You're right.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember his name.
28:38
unknown: Yeah.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember his name?
28:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna look it up real quick.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh you go ahead, keep on.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: No, I always felt bad for him though.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Like his whole cosmic purpose was to help Bran be king.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was to help Bran.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: Which, you know, I think Bran is probably the perfect tyrant because he convinced everyone that it was their choice.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: He didn't mind like removing the consent of another human being to control them like a puppet.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: He like didn't mind uh, you know, uh uh influencing things down to where people were murdered and raped.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: He knew it was gonna happen and he didn't stop.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Like that last bit where they're like, and you should be king.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Why do you think I'm here?
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, you fucking dick.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: His name was Willis.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: Willis.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: Poor Willis.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Go Willis.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: It's W-Y-L-I-S.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: I think it's pronounced Willis.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: Willis, not best.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm I'm sure it's Willis.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it's Willis.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: God damn you, George R.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Martin.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Just spell things regular.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to make try to make it all fantasy.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: No, just name him Willis.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Just name him Willis.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: It's not, it's not, I Willis is like some kid in the Great Depression.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: That's not uh Well, I find like fantasy writers in particular, they have to do that just to look up to uh Tolkien, who you know did his whole he fucking wrote his own language and then wrote a children's book.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: Would it be funny if like uh instead of like Aragorn in Lord of the Rings, we had like Todd?
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh Todd.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: Bill.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: Just Bill.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: Instead of Frodo, it's it's it's Jeff.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: Steve.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Or James for that matter, Ryan, Josh.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Do you imagine the Lord of the Rings cast having our names?
30:21
SPEAKER_02: No.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: Even Sam is Sam wise, you know.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, right.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: I've there is a Sam, that's true.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: This makes up the Dark Lord Josh.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Let's go see the high Elven Queen, Susan.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Susan.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: Karen.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Karen.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: The villain.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: Dark Lord Karen.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: Dark Lord Queen.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: So now we're a little more drunk, we're a little more high, and we're putting our names into Lord of the Rings.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: This is how fights work.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: We have a three-round method guaranteed to deliver you results.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: Starts with round one where the two characters enter into a legally distinct fight club, Gen X bar, um, at the basement of an Applebee's, and they punch each other to death.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: Just pound for pound, punch for punch.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: They get nothing extra.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Round two, we zoom out into a city view where the characters have 24 hours to eliminate the other one.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: They know they gotta go after the other one, and they have access to anything that makes them them, or they could just buy something from their world.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: Um do they have access to their friends in the second round?
31:29
SPEAKER_01: No.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: And then round three is the same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: So moving into round one, Carl Urban and Cher have been escorted up to the box seats, followed by the high and dry philosophers.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: The two characters are you know shadow boxing in the corners while Val Kilmer, squeezed into Brad Pitt's pants, is talking about the rules.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: I think Frodo looks concerned.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he's shadow boxing so much, it's just looking kind of like, what the fuck is going on?
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his big old hairy feet is sticking out.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: I just and Hodor is just Hodor shadow boxing.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: No, he's a pacifist.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's just kind of like chilling.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and Frodo's like, is this an adventure?
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: We're about to go for a ride.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, kill merchants.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: Is he a troll?
32:24
SPEAKER_02: A troll.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh and then Cher's just screaming for death.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, so here we go.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: We've entered into the first round.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: The two characters the bell has been rung.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, we're forcing these two characters to fight each other.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: What happens?
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Guests first, Josh.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: What happens?
32:40
SPEAKER_02: So uh Odor just kind of like starts pound, his feet start pounding and he starts running towards Frodo thinking he can just squish him, you know.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: And uh and Frodo just stands there looking at him, you know, oh what's what's going on?
32:57
SPEAKER_02: And he reaches in his little green tunic and pulls out his ring and slaps it on his finger and he disappears in front of Hodor's eyes.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: But they don't have that yet.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have his ring.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: Bob Kilmer stripped him down.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: So he that's right.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: So he just pound for pound, punch for punch.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: He just does a little dodge to the side, he does a little fancy roll.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: Because Hodor's a big top-heavy guy.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: Um he can't really, he's he's he swings his arms down to grab him and he misses.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think about this fucking fight.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: And this is like the saddest fight on earth.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, because neither of them want to beat it.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Neither of them want to hurt the other one.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: And we're forcing the one of them to beat the other to death.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: Both of them are like kind-hearted and don't want to hurt the other.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, because I mean, especially Hodor, the only time he he fought was when Brands forced him to.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, he's kind of like he kind of shrinks away from things and tries to be very gentle.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: And Frodo is not a Hodor.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Can you taste the strawberries, Hodor?
34:13
SPEAKER_01: Frodo's like not a strong character either, but like is willing to fight.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: So it's probably gonna be something like Hodor cowering in the corner while this little guy Frodo slowly incredibly slowly beats him to death.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: So like agonizingly slowly.
34:38
SPEAKER_01: It takes him like a half hour to beat him to death.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: He's like crying.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: He's like crying most of the time, but then he like just kind of becomes indifferent.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Like he did in the movie.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like he did in the movie.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: It's like if you had a just like a chinchilla, just start rocking into him in it with his soft little paws.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Holy shit.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: This is the most dark fucking episode.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: I think this is the darkest episode we've ever had so far.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: But like the only thing that I would say is that we didn't we didn't see how this would play out beforehand.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: We have no idea.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: Game of Thrones.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, because Hodor was a terrified, you know, very pacifistic.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: But like, it's gonna take Frodo 30 minutes to kill this guy.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: If he's just punching and punching.
35:42
SPEAKER_01: No, Hodor does shrink away and does allow himself to be beat.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: But like he allows himself to be beat by villagers.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: Like at minute 25 when he realizes death is upon him.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: No, he doesn't fight them still.
35:53
SPEAKER_01: He's still not gonna do it.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: He does in the in the in the at least the show, I didn't read the books, he didn't fight them.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: Like he had to be he they had to be dispersed, and then he got helped up.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that?
36:03
SPEAKER_01: And he was like all bloodied and bruised.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Because people uh Well, so I'm thinking, so either Frodo's gonna slowly beat this man in the very or slowly Cher is gonna have some prodding that forces Hodor to fight, at which point he's just gonna rip fucking uh Frodo in half.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be two seconds long.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's either gonna be half an hour of Frodo punching in the death, or it's gonna be two seconds of this large man ripping a child to death.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, uh well, so uh Josh, uh final thoughts and a vote.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I'm gonna have to give it to Frodo, I think, because uh I feel like you you nailed it, like he'll he's I mean, he's still a he's not a fighter, but he knows how to survive.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: He knows how to like you know, he knows what has to be done.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, he's he's pretty smart guy.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: So I think he would just do what has to be done.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: Frodo has killed the survive.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, James.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: That'd be such that'd be it's such a brutal fight.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: He like starts aiming for the eyes because they're softer.
37:24
SPEAKER_01: You may have punched his ears.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: Speed it up, throw less punches.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I was about to say, maybe Frodo will tire himself out and like disqualify himself mid-beating, but this dude walked all the way to fucking Mount Doom.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, he'll he'll keep going.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he'll keep going.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he'll keep going.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, there you go.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Round one goes to Frodo Baggins.
37:50
SPEAKER_01: Little bloody feet, bloody hairy feet.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, Mr.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: Baggins.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: So transferring into round two, these characters have now both received the manila envelope underneath their apartment doors.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: Frodo's changed forever.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: After that experience.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: He's got PTSD.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Um well, these characters now have access to everything that they can reasonably find in their world.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they have 24 hours to take care of business.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: So uh, Josh, initial thoughts.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: What do you think is gonna go down?
38:21
SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like he's definitely gonna pull out Sting, his uh trusty sword, um which is technically a dagger, um, but for his size it's a sword.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I think he's he's gonna uh try to make a quick quick end of this big old big guy because he kind of knows what has to be done.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I think he's gonna go right at him, and I uh I'm trying to think of what Hodor could be pulling in here.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna buy a gun.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, some sort of like battle axe, or or maybe actually, okay, so Hodor is actually gonna run over and grab a big heavy door and rip it off its hinges.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: And try to beat Frodo to death with it.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or or at least he gets into more of a defense, yeah, and just wears Frodo out.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: I I think that that's his opportunity.
39:26
SPEAKER_01: It's his it's essentially his opportunity uh to make it a tie, which that's kind of where I'm leaning.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Is that Hodor in this case now has a chance to defend himself.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: He has a chance to defend himself, and after 24 hours, I don't think either of them are gonna kill each other.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: And then they both die.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Cher kills both of them.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh she teleports to their location and cuts them uh with her nano fiber katana, and they and they and they peel, they peel backward like a banana.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: He's holding the door on front of him like this, and his fingers are exposed, and he has little scratches on his fingers from from Frodo's sword cutting at him because he's such a small guy, and it's like yeah, no, yeah, no, and that's what I was gonna think.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: I was uh that's what I was thinking was that round two would end in a tie.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Because what what we have here is it it's a very weak you know w river slamming into an immovable rock.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the rock at no point is gonna kill the river, but the river definitely ain't passing.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: Not in 24 hours, not in 24 hours.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: Um and that's what I'm feeling for sure.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Kind of a stalemate.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh well, Josh, uh final thoughts on a vote.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: Um I mean, if it could end at a tie, I'd definitely say it's a tie.
40:50
SPEAKER_02: Um if not, I mean, I'd have to say it's probably out of a technicality, um, go to Frodo again just because he he's actually trying to, you know, hit get some hits in there, even though and and Hodor is mostly just you know defending himself, you know.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Judge him on a point scale like boxing.
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
41:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know what?
41:16
SPEAKER_01: I forgot.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: Frodo gets the ring this round, and the ring forces him to do dark things.
41:22
SPEAKER_01: I forgot about that.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: It forces him to be it forces him to do dark things.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: It was fun to think about for about it just being a stalemate.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, I have a potential like side thing to that because so Frodo's gonna get like his fade item.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: At which point Hodor has his fade item, which he needs to survive to keep the door closed for Bran.
41:42
SPEAKER_01: But he doesn't but he can't do it.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Bran controls him during that.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Not not after he runs.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: I I just I re-watched it, it was painful.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Um But Frodo can turn invisible and stuff, he might be able to sneak up on him.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing is Frodo's ring lets him turn invisible and it corrupts his mind to do violence.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: But then I think at that point Hodor's fate would tie with um Frodo's ring.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: Um at the end of the day, I think uh because when Frodo goes down, Sam Wise is gonna pull it across.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Fate does not need Frodo.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh Brand's fate needs Hodor.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but Brand's not here yet.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: He gets Brand next round.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: He gets brand new.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: But without the outside elements, there'd be no ring.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: Without the outside elements, there'd be no stain.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: But the ring is a direct item.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah that he it's part of his equipment.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: It's his inventory.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: Even though it's made from another person, it's part of the greater story.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's still a it's still like he's in possession of the one ring.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: It is his precious.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, what do you think?
42:52
SPEAKER_00: Josh first.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, well, so Josh, are you saying a tie or are you saying Frodo?
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess I would say again, uh, out of a technicality, uh, Frodo, just because he is he is actually swinging his sword trying and getting a few hits on the fingers of Hodor, and uh Hodor is just playing the defense, you know, at this point.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: So I think well, if that actually can would you mind if I went for the second one on that?
43:19
SPEAKER_00: I think sure.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh I think that uh Hodor is going to accidentally kill Frodo.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: He's Frodo's gonna be invisible, he's gonna stab into Hodor, and Hodor's gonna like swing back, break Frodo's neck.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what else?
43:36
SPEAKER_01: Um the ring, uh the ring attracts weak-minded and willed people.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: Hodor's gonna get the ring.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: Hodor Hodor may actually be convinced to go after the ring by the ring.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: Ah, dude, that would make uh Game of Thrones a good show.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: Do you think do you think Hodor is gonna go after the ring?
43:58
SPEAKER_00: My vote is Hodor.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: I think my vote is Hodor.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, we have a vote right here on Frodo.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Where's your vote, James?
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh well, I'm gonna consider that I mean you could also, I mean, you guys I think Hodor.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: So the so literally Hodor.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: Is susceptible to mind control.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: We know that.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: And I think that means that the one ring is going to uh make Hodor go crazy and try to take the one ring.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's right.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, that's a good point.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: And he is a human and they're very weak to the uh to the ring.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're very susceptible.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Very susceptible to the ring, and in addition to that, just Hodor's innate mind control weakness.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: He he that's why Brand could possess him, you know.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: So it'll turn into that like Cane and Abel kind of scene where uh uh I forget his original name.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: What was uh um Brass or what was his golem?
44:53
SPEAKER_00: What was his original name?
44:54
SPEAKER_00: Smeagol.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh Smeagol, yeah.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: Smeagol.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: That Smeagol scene where he strangles his brother for the first time.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it would be like that, except now this dude weighs 700 pounds.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: Frodo's gonna be walking toward him with Sting out and the ring, the ring around his neck, and he's gonna be like, I'm so sorry I have to do this to you.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: And it's just like it's gonna it's gonna go on Hodor's face, and and you he's you're gonna see him focusing, and then it's gonna focus on the ring, and you're gonna hear the strangle some dick.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, what you know when the ring is using its allure, they play that song, and then and and he's gonna be like, Oh, I want that.
45:29
SPEAKER_01: And he rips his dick off, and that's the end of it.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: So I think that that's what happens.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, so two to two to uh two to one.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: No, no, we all we all three said it now turns into you never had a different opinion.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got a little deeper with it, and that definitely makes sense, you know.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: He uh I think the ring definitely corrupts the minds.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you can corrupt someone like Boromir who's intelligent and whatever, I mean Hodor has no hope, so he's gonna try to rip rip Frodo's arms off for sure.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: No, and that was great because when you when you guys initially brought up the ring, I'm thinking like, shit, what is he gonna do against the ring?
46:07
SPEAKER_00: And then I remember that turns into Frodo's own Achilles heel.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's really cool.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: All right, so I mean that's what people come to INGI for these days.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: It's been a twisty-turny episode.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, going all over the place.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: All right, so that brings us into round three.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: Round three is the same as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: Josh, you're gonna be first.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: So uh, but while you're thinking of that, if uh you want to indulge me, I was gonna take another hit, another shot.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: If you wanna think about it and join us and imbibe much, I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna be real high.
46:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, this one uh this one is to old guests returning.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: It's been great having you on again, man.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: It's great to be back.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Can't remember, I think it was like this summer, I think last time.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: A lot has changed and a lot has stayed the same.
46:59
SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, that was nice.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was good, yeah.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: All right.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: So we're going into round three with a tie.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: I for sure I was gonna I was actually ready to give it to Frodo.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: I was almost ready to give it to Frodo and be like, Frodo Frodo clean sweep, you know.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we talked about it because.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: You up first, who do they bring and what happens?
47:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, I could uh Frodo has a lot of friends, he had a lot of powerful people on his side, but I feel like none was more powerful than uh I'd have to say Gandalf the White.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: Um because uh you know, if you think back to Helm's Deep and stuff, uh he is a good ally to have when in times of like dire circumstances.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he basically saved the people of Helm's Deep after they were overrun by you know orcs and I mean shit was hitting the fan, and he comes up over the hill with the sunrise and the horses and the you know the oh it was just really he he does he does win triumphantly.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: He uh I think the only reason he lost in our tournament of of champions that we ran uh was because he had to face Austin Powers.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: And and nobody beats Austin Power.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: Austin Powers won the whole thing.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Um so I think that if Gandalf had gone the rest of the way, uh it would have been him on top if Austin Powers wasn't there.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: That's a great choice.
49:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like it enough.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: Um the other option, of course, Sam.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, you uh obviously Sam or uh I feel like Aragorn too, he he led the charge into the Black Gates, uh, was really ready to risk it all.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: Um But you know, in the end, uh Gandalf is is the white, not the gray.
49:27
SPEAKER_02: The white is pretty much the third evolved form, like a you know, like a Pokemon the third form.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Um and uh he's here for his one purpose.
49:38
SPEAKER_02: I I feel like he would yeah, he would be a big huge help.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean I feel like on Hodar's side, the only option here we have is Bran.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, in in in that situation, Bran, and also he immediately wins because Bran is incredible.
49:54
SPEAKER_01: The next tournament we do, actually, we never did Bran as a main character, so he doesn't get to be in it.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: He's too powerful.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think I think he's just he's an unstoppable force.
50:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean I mean I well I I see a thing here.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: So first, uh so you have Gandalf, you know, the Astari or the Maya, whatever he is, but one of the things that I think might go against that is is he tries not to directly interfere in the big choice-making decisions of the universe.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: So I think he might stay out of this one and be like, Frodo, do your thing.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, but at which point I think Samwise obviously is a great choice, but I think that uh Frodo's gonna bring Aragorn and no matter who, and he's gonna slice fucking Hodor's head off.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: Bran is gonna be like, no, wait, and then just get sliced in half by Aragorn.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: And so um I think that I mean you have so Aragorn, he was um magically and genetically enhanced.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was the greatest swordsman, and I wish they went more into that in the in the movies.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you kind of saw that you aren't gonna fucking beat him if he's fighting you.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but he was like he was known as you can't if he comes at you with a sword, you just you know start uh you know praying to whatever God you pray to.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: He's like Jon Snow.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh even more so higher than that.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: And no, everyone else, uh everyone in that world was like, just don't let Jon Snow catch you with a sword.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: That's like they would all that's what everyone said.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: They're like if you're gonna be able to do it.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: They both came from like these uh these lineages of like you know, great and powerful like royalty, like uh, you know, Aragorn was you know an heir to be the king, and his yeah, you know, his you know, his uh forefathers and whatnot, and same with Bran, even though his was a little more you know kept secret for a long time.
51:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, but they're both, yeah.
51:54
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean choices.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: This this is really crazy.
51:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but and I've seen the I've seen the oh go on.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say, I feel like with Bran, because he's he's like a time manipulator.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: Like the dude can basically go into his own head and he could go back and kill baby Aragorn before he even like you know what I mean?
52:15
SPEAKER_02: So Aragorn, if you go to like swing a sword, Bran can like roll his eyes back, and all of a sudden Aragorn just like fades into obscurity before he can swing his sword.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's well it was kind of like and I don't we we can't undersell the fact that Bran is he's a he's a legendary character, also the three-eyed raven.
52:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's not like it's not like it's not like he's up against Aragorn and Aragorn's the legendary one.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: Bran is also incredibly legendary, they would they would both be incredibly legendary.
52:43
SPEAKER_00: The the only thing I would argue is that uh a lot of the time powers that we attribute to Bran, we don't see in the show.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: Right.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: Um and and and a lot of people uh don't realize that as far as the books are going, George R R is so fucking far behind.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we don't even know if John comes back.
53:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh okay.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, we we're going off the TV show, and I don't give a shit about George R.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: Martin's work because I just watched the television show.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying in the TV.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't read books, don't read books except John Sartre.
53:19
SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying in the TV show, I never saw Bran go back in time and kill a legendary sword fighter in the womb.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: You know?
53:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I've so just my thoughts on it, what I think is gonna go down.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: I I think that uh Frodo's gonna come up with Aragorn.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh huh.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: Aragorn, and I've seen the fight play out all over forms everywhere, Jon Snow versus Aragorn, and what always gets Aragorn on top um is that he is magically and genetically enhanced.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: Um he's he's literally put the sword down, superhuman.
53:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that doesn't come up a lot in the movies.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, it comes off like very, very briefly, but there's a reason why all the elves chill with him.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's because he plays on the same level.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh so I I think that uh you know whatever Brand tries to do in the show, it always came down to this dramatic moment against a no-name zombie.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: And that dramatic moment you know was great, and you know the hero's gonna live, but now he's going up against Aragorn, and Aragorn's gonna slice Bran's fucking head off, and I think Tensor's gonna go down.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: But that was my thoughts.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: So so Josh, bringing it back to you, uh final thoughts and a vote.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I uh yeah, I feel like it's as you know, I mean, Bran has like, you know, these these powers and stuff, but he from what we know, he's not necessarily able.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: He can see the past and he can see all these things and answer all these mysteries and secrets, but he he I mean he's not a powerful person himself.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: He's just he's a good manipulator.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: He and and he's you know, he's uh I don't know if we're allowed to say cripple, but uh he he's paralyzed, yeah.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: He's paralyzed, he's a he's uh collegic.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: And uh, I mean, going up against Aragorn, I mean he's just gonna run up and like you said, you know, slice his head off and be done with it, and uh before Bran even can get into his trance, you know.
55:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh yeah, I I mean my vote goes to Frodo and Aragorn um all day long, definitely.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, I already know your vote.
55:29
SPEAKER_01: I would speak on behalf of Bran's godly power, uh, and that he was able to set up an entire continent of actions to coalesce in one moment of triumph.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, he's incredibly powerful.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh so I I would think that he would take control of Hodor and also be be um influencing his environment in a way that that Aragorn couldn't couldn't understand.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: Because there's way less politics in Lord of the Rings.
56:07
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of there's some politics, but they're not intense like Game of Thrones.
56:11
SPEAKER_01: Um so I think Aragorn would be a little out of water.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh but of course that's just my vote, and we'll move it forward too.
56:19
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, for me, I think uh so you I think that Bran, uh I mean he's a great Mussolini.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: Um and he's more like a pol pot.
56:28
SPEAKER_01: He's a pole pot, yeah.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: It's more of a pol pot.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: Um and I think that that's gonna play really strongly to him.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: Um I I and I I think that it's gonna give you know Frodo a little bit of difficulty.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, but then I think this swordsman out of Rivendell, um, who has one foot in being a ranger, one foot in being a future king, um, and then just slices down anything in his way, you know, Bran is gonna be like, Why do you think I came here?
56:58
SPEAKER_00: And then a sword just rips through his face.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: Um and I think that's what's gonna go down.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, my vote is also gonna have to go to Frodo, and I'm glad that we agreed.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
57:08
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
57:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm very glad that we agreed on that.
57:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's no problem.
57:11
SPEAKER_01: I I believed it was Frodo the whole time.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: So congratulations, Mr.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: Frodo.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: And even if it was Samwise, Samwise would have given the speech.
57:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
57:19
SPEAKER_01: And and then the speech agree with both of you.
57:23
SPEAKER_01: The speech would have shown Bran the error of his ways.
57:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that one would have worked out.
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SPEAKER_01: Aragorn, sure.
57:29
SPEAKER_02: He would have taken a bite of his lambus bread, given the speech.
57:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Bran's a fucking sociopath.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: He's not gonna be confusing you by a moving speech.
57:41
SPEAKER_00: A moving speech.
57:45
SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, well, there you have it, folks.
57:47
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, Frodo, uh, whether it's 30 minutes of punching him to death or using Aragorn to slice him to death, will eventually defeat Hodor.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: I also gotta say, uh, the people in Lord of the Rings were certainly motivated.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm just doing good.
58:05
SPEAKER_01: You know, I never I never realized the the level of motivation these people had in the pursuits, uh like the monumental pursuits in front of them.
58:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
58:14
SPEAKER_01: Like leading a political re and physical revolution and like jer like having to march toward what you expect is your own death.
58:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, they didn't have Netflix.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
58:28
SPEAKER_01: It's hard, it's hard to get to get that level of motivation when you can watch their level of motivation on TV.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm vicariously living the dream of revolution, of righting the wrongs of the world.
58:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with yeah, with my sword and my lambus bread.
58:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, there you have it, folks.
58:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh Frodo takes it home.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, Aragorn.
58:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, you won that one for sure.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh so uh Josh Man, thanks for joining us.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh where can we find you?
59:02
SPEAKER_02: Um I am uh pretty much all over social media on you know uh Instagram and uh Twitter and Facebook.
59:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh just search my name, Joshua Marcella.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Um I also have books available on Amazon.
59:16
SPEAKER_02: Um I think one of them's on Barnes and Noble.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: A couple of them are available in uh audiobook um if you like that.
59:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh my latest one is available in uh ebook, paperback, and hardcover.
59:28
SPEAKER_01: Do you read your audiobooks or do you have someone else read them?
59:31
SPEAKER_02: No, I I um I've hired narrators uh for previous ones only because I, you know, I um when I'm reading, I kind of stutter a lot, and I and it's a it's a skill.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: It's not something you know you you want it to be quality.
59:45
SPEAKER_02: Um so I'm you know, I just want what's best for my readers, and you know, people have said, oh, you should you should read your own audiobooks, and I'm like, no, you wouldn't want that.
59:53
SPEAKER_02: It would be a mess.
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SPEAKER_00: So honestly, it would be pretty trippy because we we've talked to him and you know we've had we've talked about fucking you know Frodo getting you know traumatized by Odor, traumatized while beating Odor.
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SPEAKER_00: Now I'm just listening to that same voice.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, it was it's great having you.
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