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Vance Declares 'War on Fraud' and SAVE Act Showdown Erupts | Episode 234 · V

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  Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Thursday. Great to have
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  Speaker 1: you with us as always, man. We've got a big
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  Speaker 1: show coming up for you. The FBI was once again
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  Speaker 1: attempting to rig an election by spying on President Trump's campaign.
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  Speaker 1: We've got brand new details out about yet another effort
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  Speaker 1: by the Democrat-led FBI to spy on President Trump's campaign.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the details coming up on that. The fallout
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  Speaker 1: of the State of the Union, the aftermath of that
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  Speaker 1: excellent State of the Union address. by President Trump. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into it, including the effort to tackle that fraud nationwide.
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  Speaker 1: her on going after all of that bigotry that the
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  Speaker 2: Boom.
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  Speaker 1: Man, it's good to be here with you. You like
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  Speaker 1: So we try and do that. Yes, it is good
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  Speaker 1: to see everybody. The State of the Union aftermath, what
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  Speaker 1: an amazing State of the Union, an hour and 50
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  Speaker 1: minutes or so. Remember, the biggest thing I think that
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  Speaker 1: came from this was that moment where President Trump demands
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  Speaker 1: that if you love America, stand up. And if you
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  Speaker 1: prefer illegal aliens, stay seated. And what did the Democrats do? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know what they did. It was the most epic
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  Speaker 1: moment of this entire State of the Union.
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  Speaker 2: Watch this.
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  Speaker 3: If you agree with this statement, then stand up and
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  Speaker 3: show your support. The first duty of the American government
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  Speaker 3: is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: I'm standing for that one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing. You standing?
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  Speaker 5: I'm standing.
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  Speaker 6: It's so obvious. And then Trump gestures to the Democrats,
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  Speaker 6: swings the arm out. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that applause goes on for like 40 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: The president finally gets a chance to say something about
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  Speaker 1: these Democrats not standing.
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  Speaker 2: Here he is.
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  Speaker 1: Hold up, hold up, hold up.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Forget it. This clip doesn't even show it. Anyway, the
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  Speaker 1: point is that the applause goes for hours. And then finally,
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  Speaker 1: the president's like, you know what? These guys can't even stand.
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  Speaker 1: You can't even stand? No, they can't stand. So this thing,
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  Speaker 1: let me, here's some free advice for Republican candidates. Show
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  Speaker 1: this video. Just show it. You don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: anything else. President Trump prepackaged your entire campaign for you.
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  Speaker 1: Just air that video and you win the election. This
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  Speaker 1: is a cheat code to win the election.
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  Speaker 2: Do it.
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  Speaker 8: Do it.
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  Speaker 1: See, Democrats can't get off their asses.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally crazy. And look, what they demonstrated is that
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  Speaker 1: they're like Reagan elections. They also demonstrated that they're cowards.
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  Speaker 1: They demonstrated that they're cowards in the face of their
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  Speaker 1: radical base. And J.D. Vance knows this. The vice president
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  Speaker 1: of the United States reacted to this. And here's what
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  Speaker 1: he had to say yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Watch.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I saw a couple of things, Bill.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, obviously, most Democrats didn't stand up or clap.
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  Speaker 9: And What a shame that is. What a sad commentary
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  Speaker 9: that is on the Democratic Party that the idea that
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  Speaker 9: the American government should stand for American citizens, not illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 9: That shouldn't be controversial, but apparently it was to the Democrats.
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  Speaker 9: But I will say, Bill, something that I saw that
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  Speaker 9: probably most TV viewers didn't see was really the cowardice,
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  Speaker 9: because there were a few Democrats who sort of politely clapped.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't want to stand up.
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  Speaker 9: I guess maybe they were worried about being primaried by
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  Speaker 9: the far left fringe of their party. But they were
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  Speaker 9: all looking around. They weren't actually saying, you know what?
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to stand and support this because this is
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  Speaker 9: a common sense, obvious statement. They were all looking around
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  Speaker 9: for cues from their colleagues because they didn't have the
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  Speaker 9: courage to stand on their own. And that, more than anything, Bill,
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  Speaker 9: is the saddest commentary on the Democratic Party, that not
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  Speaker 9: only will they not stand for the idea that Americans
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  Speaker 9: should come first, they won't even have the courage of
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  Speaker 9: their convictions. They lean on the person to their left
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  Speaker 9: and their right rather than actually have some conviction. That
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  Speaker 9: is unfortunately what's true about Democrats in Washington today.
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  Speaker 1: That's what being a lemming means. They're a bunch of lemmings.
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  Speaker 1: They just wait for somebody else to start walking off
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  Speaker 1: the cliff and then they follow them. And it's like
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  Speaker 1: crazy to me. And think about who's in charge of
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  Speaker 1: that group. It's Hakeem Jeffries. The guy's brain doesn't even operate.
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  Speaker 1: That guy was in charge of deciding whether or not
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  Speaker 1: they would stand. No offense, but I'm going to freelance.
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  Speaker 1: If Hakeem Jeffries is my leader, my leader, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to make some decisions on my own. Like that guy,
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  Speaker 1: by the time he processes this, the State of the
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  Speaker 1: Union will be over. And it was record length. So, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to wait for Hakeem to stand up.
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  Speaker 1: Stand up for Americans. Couldn't even do that. You couldn't
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  Speaker 1: even do that. Yeah, these Democrats, man, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get back to J.D. Vance in a
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  Speaker 1: second because J.D. Vance got called out during the State
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  Speaker 1: of the Union by the president and said, this is
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  Speaker 1: the guy who's going to tackle fraud. And we've got
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  Speaker 1: some updates on that immediately from the vice president of
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  Speaker 1: the United States. But before we get there, a woman
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  Speaker 1: who's in one of the fraud states, who is very
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  Speaker 1: happy with the fraudsters, who in fact disrupted the State
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  Speaker 1: of the Union to protect the fraudsters, Ilhan freaking Omar.
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  Speaker 1: She went on CNN yesterday and Wolf Blitzer said, intoned
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  Speaker 1: a question three times in a row. He said, you
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  Speaker 1: have any regrets? You have any regrets over disrupting the
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  Speaker 1: president of the United States? And here's how that went.
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  Speaker 2: Watch.
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  Speaker 10: The House Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries, advised your caucus, the
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  Speaker 10: Democratic members, to either skip the State of the Union
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  Speaker 10: address or sit there in silence. Should you have just
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  Speaker 10: boycotted the address? And do you think you violated the
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  Speaker 10: guidelines set out by your own leader?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it was really unavoidable. The president talked
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  Speaker 4: about protecting Americans, and I just had to remind him
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  Speaker 4: that his administration was responsible for killing two of my constituents.
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  Speaker 2: She's in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 10: Many members of your Democratic Party criticized their Republican counterparts
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  Speaker 10: when they interrupted President Biden's State of the Union address.
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  Speaker 10: As a lot of us remember, do you have any
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  Speaker 10: regrets at all about the interaction we played between you
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  Speaker 10: and President Trump just last night?
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  Speaker 4: I do not.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it.
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  Speaker 4: Many people look at that moment when the president says
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  Speaker 4: it is our responsibility to protect Americans, and he does
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  Speaker 4: not acknowledge the fact that two Americans, two of my constituents,
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  Speaker 4: two of our neighbors, were killed.
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  Speaker 1: What a clown.
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  Speaker 4: And it was important for me to just remind Americans.
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  Speaker 1: The American people.
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  Speaker 4: That the president and his administration was responsible for killing
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  Speaker 4: two American citizens.
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  Speaker 10: With hindsight, Congresswoman, do you think you would have been
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  Speaker 10: better off boycotting the speech like so many other Democratic
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  Speaker 10: lawmakers did? Or did you do the right thing by
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  Speaker 10: actually showing up there?
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  Speaker 4: I brought four Minnesotans as guests for the Minnesota delegation.
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  Speaker 4: It was important for us to be there, to bear witness.
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  Speaker 1: So Wolf Blitzer tries three times with this chick. Like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't you think you should have been better behaved? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I should have been better behaved.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have any regrets whatsoever? No, I do not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets whatsoever. You know, don't you
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  Speaker 1: think maybe you should have skipped the whole State of
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  Speaker 1: the Union instead of showed up like an emotionally incontinent psychopath?
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  Speaker 1: I brought the Minnesotans with me. And then she kept saying,
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  Speaker 1: you heard her keep saying something that was very dishonest.
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  Speaker 1: This thing, oh, the Trump administration is just killing American citizens. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you psycho. First of all, the weak and vicious minded
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  Speaker 1: people who take you seriously keep trying to assassinate good Americans, scumbag.
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  Speaker 1: And when you say something like that, what she's leaving
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  Speaker 1: out is that in both of those cases that she's
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  Speaker 1: referring to, Renee Goode and Alex Preti, both of them
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  Speaker 1: were involved in assaults on law enforcement and disobeying lawful
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  Speaker 1: orders to stop obstructing law enforcement. Their lives wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: over if they hadn't made a series of terrible decisions
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  Speaker 1: egged on by Johan Omar. The blood's on her hands.
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  Speaker 1: Is she sitting in the Congress yelling at Trump that
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  Speaker 1: he killed people? The blood's on your hands, sweetheart. The
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  Speaker 1: blood's on your hands. And you shouldn't even be in Congress.
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  Speaker 1: They should have dragged her out. They should have done
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  Speaker 1: what they did to Al Green. Get the sergeant at arms,
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  Speaker 1: get her out of there. And then while they're at it,
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  Speaker 1: just bring her right to denaturalization and get her the
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  Speaker 1: hell out of the country too. Because she's completely out
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  Speaker 1: of control. At what point has she ever been an
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  Speaker 1: American representative? Has she ever been on your side? I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember once thinking, oh yeah, she's doing something for us.
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  Speaker 1: She's constantly trying to protect a fraud operation in Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: that's stealing, what, $ 20 billion at least from us? And
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  Speaker 1: that's why the president of the United States announced on
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday that he has placed J.D. Vance in charge of
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  Speaker 1: tackling fraud nationwide.
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  Speaker 2: You know, J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance being in charge of this fraud thing, it's not
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  Speaker 1: brand new information, but it is important that the president
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  Speaker 1: presented it to the world this week so that everybody
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  Speaker 1: else can find out about it. You and I knew
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  Speaker 1: about this. We saw the makings of this earlier this year. Remember, J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance is the one who stepped out. He did a
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  Speaker 1: press conference and he announced, hey, we've got a new
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  Speaker 1: person coming to the Justice Department. They're going to report
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  Speaker 1: directly to the White House, not to Pam Bondi, directly
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  Speaker 1: to the White House to tackle fraud. And I've got
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  Speaker 1: a hand in this. I'm kind of running the show here.
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  Speaker 1: And then President Trump steps out and says, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance is in charge of tackling this fraud nationwide. And
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  Speaker 1: how much time did he waste? Well, let's see.
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  Speaker 2: None.
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  Speaker 1: He wasted none. He hit the ground running yesterday. Here
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  Speaker 1: he is confirming on television that, yes, he's tackling fraud.
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  Speaker 1: And then later in the day, they announced a huge
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  Speaker 1: freeze on government funding that's been going to fraudsters. First,
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  Speaker 1: his appearance on television yesterday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Watch.
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  Speaker 11: As you look at this, go ahead and explain it
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  Speaker 11: to us because we want to understand what the job is.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you what do you think the number is?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I don't know what the top line number bill is,
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  Speaker 9: and I think that's unfortunate that nobody has ever tried
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  Speaker 9: to take a systematic look at how much fraud there
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  Speaker 9: is in the federal government. How many illegal aliens are
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  Speaker 9: on Medicaid? We know that it's billions and billions of
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  Speaker 9: dollars that should go to American citizens.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 9: How many fraudulent daycare centers have been set up where
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  Speaker 9: that money should go to American citizens to help their
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  Speaker 9: kids get into child care? Instead, it's being stolen from them.
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  Speaker 9: by illegal aliens in our country. How much have government
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  Speaker 9: officials actually been complicit in this fraud because some of
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  Speaker 9: them have gotten wealthy or at the least they've gotten
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  Speaker 9: campaign donations from the people who've gotten rich from that fraud.
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  Speaker 9: The story of the American economy in so many ways
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  Speaker 9: during the Biden administration bill is that the American citizen
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  Speaker 9: was ripped off for people who shouldn't be here and
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  Speaker 9: by politicians who should have known better. And the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 9: the president has asked me to take a full Whole
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  Speaker 9: government approach to trying to understand that and what does
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  Speaker 9: that mean bill? That means first of all, the Department
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  Speaker 9: of Justice is going to be investigating and where possible
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  Speaker 9: Throwing fraudsters in prison, but it's also gonna mean that
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  Speaker 9: Scott Bessette and some of our friends at the Treasury
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  Speaker 9: Department We're gonna be looking at income tax records We're
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  Speaker 9: gonna be trying to understand how it is that the
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  Speaker 9: American people have been defrauded how it is.
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  Speaker 1: That people have used resources.
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  Speaker 9: And programs that should go to American citizens and instead
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  Speaker 9: have been going to fraudulent uses. There's a whole host
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  Speaker 9: of tools that we have that have never been used.
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  Speaker 9: And the president, I talked about this a couple of
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  Speaker 9: months ago and said, what if we just did everything
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  Speaker 9: that we could to stop the fraud that's being committed
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  Speaker 9: against the American taxpayer? The president said, great idea, let's
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  Speaker 9: do it. And we're going to work on that very
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  Speaker 9: aggressively over the next year.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And what you have here, what you have here is
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  Speaker 1: the executive branch, the very highest levels. The vice president
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  Speaker 1: of the United States is now overseeing this operation. And
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  Speaker 1: you hear J.D. Vance there talking about the government officials
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  Speaker 1: who made this possible. We know something with certainty. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen the reporting on this, that we've got people like
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  Speaker 1: Tampon Tim Walls, the Attorney General Keith Ellison in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry. They're all under FBI
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  Speaker 1: investigation right now. They're all under criminal investigations. for the
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  Speaker 1: role that they played in enabling this fraud, obstructing law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously that's been some healthy leverage in getting Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: to cooperate with Tom Holman to start releasing illegals directly
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  Speaker 1: into the custody of ICE. That's been a massive, massive
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  Speaker 1: piece on the board. It's been great. But what comes next?
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  Speaker 1: Do we see these guys prosecuted for what they've done?
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  Speaker 1: Keith Ellison's on tape telling the fraudsters that he's there
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  Speaker 1: to protect them. The fraudsters are saying, hey, We got
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  Speaker 1: to get these guys off our backs. It's crazy that
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  Speaker 1: the investigators are all over us. And he says, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you donate to my campaign, money
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  Speaker 1: buys you freedom. And all it takes is a phone
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  Speaker 1: call or two from the attorney general. And usually that's
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  Speaker 1: enough to scare him off. This is Keith Ellison caught
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  Speaker 1: on tape saying.
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  Speaker 2: All of this.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before I play the next clip, this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be of J.D. Vance and Dr. Oz talking about
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  Speaker 1: how they're freezing all this funding that's been used for fraud.
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  Speaker 1: This is, you know, your money that's being stolen. I
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  Speaker 1: want to take you back a couple days to a
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  Speaker 1: clip I played for you recently. This is a clip.
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  Speaker 1: It was an NBC clip. NBC did an interview a
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  Speaker 1: couple years ago where they spoke to a fraudster, a guy.
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  Speaker 1: They covered his identity. They concealed it. They gave him
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  Speaker 1: the voice changer so he could say whatever he wanted
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  Speaker 1: without people recognizing.
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  Speaker 2: Who he is.
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  Speaker 1: And he announced, he's like, look, it is so easy
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  Speaker 1: to steal from the taxpayers. It's unbelievable. You can get
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars like that. Watch this clip.
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  Speaker 2: Watch.
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  Speaker 12: That doesn't surprise this man. We'll call him Julio because
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  Speaker 12: he wants to conceal his identity. Julio admits he knows
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  Speaker 12: a lot about stealing from Medicare because it was his
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  Speaker 12: entire life for many years in Miami. Why Medicare fraud?
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  Speaker 12: Why was that alluring to you as compared to other ways,
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  Speaker 12: maybe even illicit ways to make money?
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  Speaker 2: It's easy.
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  Speaker 12: Did someone teach you how to game the system?
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  Speaker 2: Are there a lot of people who are willing to
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  Speaker 2: break the law? Is there a lot of money to
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  Speaker 2: be made?
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  Speaker 5: How much?
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  Speaker 2: How did that stack up, the risk versus the reward?
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  Speaker 1: The reward was excellent. Millions of dollars. Very easy to steal.
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  Speaker 1: Very easy to steal from the taxpayer. And there are
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  Speaker 1: no consequences?
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  Speaker 13: No.
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  Speaker 1: No consequences. None at all. That's the way this is operating? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We should do an interview with that guy. We should
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  Speaker 1: track him down. Producer Josh, get on that. Will you
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  Speaker 1: track that guy down? Find that dude. See if we
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  Speaker 1: can get him on the show. Be like, hey, are
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  Speaker 1: you still in the stealing business all these years later?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am in the stealing business. I'm still doing it. Really?
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Sorry, my voice changer screwed up.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You're still in the stealing business?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Business is very good. Tampon Tim Walz has given
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: me so much of your money.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Millions of dollars still?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: No, billions now, actually. I have a helicopter that I
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: fly to Tampon Tim Walz's house, and then he just
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: gives me the money right there. It's a much easier operation.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Well, thank you so much for sitting down
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: with us today. I appreciate that. I'm going to pass
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: all of this off to J.D. Vance so he can
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: go after you. So, yeah, this is what we're dealing with, guys.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: This is crazy. Here's J.D. Vance and Dr. Oz announcing, hey,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you know all that money that we've been sending to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: places like Minnesota? Yeah, we're not doing that anymore. Here's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: cut four.
• 18:05
  Speaker 14: Watch.
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to the
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good stewards
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: of the American people's tax money. Now what is this
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: going to mean? What this means is that, first of all,
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: the providers on the ground in Minnesota have actually already
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: been paid. The state has paid those providers the money.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: What we're doing is we are stopping the federal payments
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: that will go to the state government until the state
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: government takes its obligations seriously to stop the fraud that's
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: being perpetrated against the American taxpayer.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Stop the fraud. Now, how much money are we talking here?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: How much fraud is actually taking place?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Dr.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Oz stepped up to the microphone and he dropped a
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: bomb on the United States here about how much money
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is being stolen from us. Listen to Dr.
• 19:03
  Speaker 15: Oz.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: Listen carefully.
• 19:06
  Speaker 15: We are spending $ 300 billion a year in health care
• 19:11
  Speaker 15: in this country for fraudulent, abusive, or wasteful purposes.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: $ 300 billion. Let's put that in perspective.
• 19:18
  Speaker 15: If we could reduce fraud by 5%, which is that
• 19:20
  Speaker 15: $ 300 billion, we would take the trust fund that's going
• 19:24
  Speaker 15: to take care of all of us as we get older,
• 19:26
  Speaker 15: and we would allow it not to expire in five
• 19:28
  Speaker 15: to six years.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: We would double its life expectancy.
• 19:30
  Speaker 15: That's massively important if you're going to trust the social
• 19:33
  Speaker 15: safety net to be there for you.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: You deserve that social safety net. It's there. It's created.
• 19:38
  Speaker 15: We're not going to let fraudsters steal it from you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: The Stellar CS team, I want to call them out.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Kim Brandt, who's videoing me over there.
• 19:43
  Speaker 15: Dan Brillman, Capri Snap, Steph Carlton have worked tirelessly to
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: put this together.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: They've been rooting out criminals all year long. I know
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: as well what it's like.
• 19:51
  Speaker 15: I visited all these areas, personally witnessed what it's like
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: to see something you know is wrong and wonder why
• 19:57
  Speaker 15: no one.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: Tried to fix it. It's infuriating.
• 19:59
  Speaker 15: The vice president described very accurately exactly what you see
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: on the ground.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hundreds of billions of dollars a year, but that's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a brand new number from Dr.
• 20:09
  Speaker 14: Oz.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: He said, we're talking at least $ 300 billion a year
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: being stolen from taxpayers. Let's stretch that out because sometimes
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in DC, they like to stretch things out over a decade,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: over 10 years, over 10 years. Well then, okay, that's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: 300 billion. That's $ 3 trillion every decade stolen from taxpayers.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Could we use $ 3 trillion right about now? Well, yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: when we're in $ 38 trillion in debt, we could definitely
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: use $ 3 trillion back. That would go a long way.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: That's a meaningful chunk. That's remarkable. All right, so what
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about the prosecutor? What about the guy who brings the charges? Well,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I've got an update on that guy because he just
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: stopped by the Senate yesterday. Got to keep our eyes
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: on this because, you know, it matters. More ahead on
• 20:51
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• 20:52
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• 20:53
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• 20:56
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• 20:58
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  Speaker 1: vice president said that he was on the way. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we got an update on.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That as well.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yesterday, President Trump's fraud hunter, Colin McDonald, went and spoke
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to the Senate. He was doing some testimony yesterday, his
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: confirmation hearing, speaking to senators about what he would do
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in this job, which is really great that he's doing
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: this because, again, he'll report directly to the White House.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's a brand-new White House unit that is coming into place,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this National Fraud Enforcement Division. And here's Eric Schmidt, the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: great Missouri senator, leaving the hearing yesterday saying they had
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a great conversation, a great conversation with Colin McDonald and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that he's about to bring a whole bunch of prosecutions.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Watch.
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: Okay, just left a confirmation hearing for the lawyer that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: going to be in charge of prosecuting all this fraud
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: that we've seen.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And certainly in Minnesota, I think that's a tip of
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the iceberg.
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: It could be a trillion dollars a year of fraud.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That's happening in this country.
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: I just think of the guy that's working his tail off,
• 23:32
  Speaker 13: swinging the hammer, driving the truck.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: He deserves better than that. So I think President Trump
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: outlined a focus on that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: Vice President Vance is going to be in charge along
• 23:39
  Speaker 13: with the federal prosecutors.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: We need to prosecute and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: Then also have some tools on the front end to
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: make sure this stuff doesn't happen again.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Great, great update. This is what I want. Give me
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: these updates. Tell me, tell me what's going on. So
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the process right now underway to get this guy in place. Now,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that I saw some of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: coverage of this hearing yesterday. And the types of questions
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: that Democrats were asking were like, are you going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: do what the president tells you to do? The answer
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to that is quite obviously, yes, of course. I work
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: for the American people. I work for the person that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they put in charge. The president of the United States
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is the executive branch. None of you people are even
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: familiar with the Constitution. This is the way it works.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: If the president tells the United States Department of Justice,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: stop everything. I want you prosecuting drug dealers. then they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: stop everything and they start going after drugs. That's the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: way this is supposed to work. The media and the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: left broadly, they act like this is some sort of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: tyrannical thing. It's not tyrannical. The president is the guy
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: who's in charge. Now, apparently in his confirmation hearing, he
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just kept repeating the same line as advised by his lawyers,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that he's going to follow the facts and apply the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: law in all cases. Well, that would include listening to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: your boss, the president of the United States. So it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a perfectly fine answer for a a Senate confirmation hearing,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: but what a ridiculous question. It's all, this is scandal
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: mongering is what it is. They're trying to create scandals
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: where there are none, and they're trying to throw the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: brakes on this guy stopping fraud. Imagine seeing fraud of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this scale and then trying to figure out ways to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: stop this guy from getting the job. I'm beginning to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: think that you're in on it. You're in on it,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that you're protecting what Eric Schmidt just referred to as
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a trillion dollars in fraud going on in our country.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: So there's a, Some meaningful updates there. All right, coming
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: up in a few minutes, we've got Harmeet Dhillon joining us.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: She is another assistant attorney general. She handles the civil
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: rights division at the Justice Department. Man, she's a hero.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: She's a total hero. But first, I've got some updates
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for you on some things that the FBI is up
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to that I need you to know about. One, the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: FBI yesterday raided the Los Angeles school district. Have you
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: heard about this? They raided the second biggest school district
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in the country specifically because they are going after the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: superintendent there, a guy called Alberto Carvalho. They raided his
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: home and his office yesterday in Los Angeles. This is
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the Trump FBI, led by Kash Patel, has raided this
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: left-wing lunatic. And this guy really is a left-wing lunatic.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: He's a part of all sorts of anti-ICE activism and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: just garbage. The New York Times reported yesterday that the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: FBI raided the headquarters of the Los Angeles Unified School
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: District and the home of its superintendent on Wednesday in
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: an apparently widening investigation into a $ 6 million deal between
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the nation's second largest school system and a failed artificial
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: intelligence startup. federal officials saying that the agency had executed
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a series of search warrants at the school district and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: at the home of the superintendent, Alberto Carvalho, and that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the accompanying affidavits had been sealed by the court. Now,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they're not elaborating on the target of the investigation, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a related FBI search at a home in Florida appeared
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to link the L.A. raids to something called All Here,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: which is a tech startup that had secured a contract
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: with the school district for an AI chatbot before the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: company filed for bankruptcy in 2024. The founder of all
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: here was later charged with fraud. The piece goes on
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to say that this is not the first time this
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: guy's been in hot water. He also was in hot
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: water in Florida. And there are allegations of self-dealing that
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: this guy was, you know, giving his buddies contracts and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it's all very suspicious. So is there corruption and fraud
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: going on in California? Well, hell yeah, there definitely is.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And so when we talk about fraud and J.D. Vance
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: going after it, I would keep an eye on this. Now,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to, again, talk to Harmony Dillon coming up
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. We'll ask her about this
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: because we've got simultaneously, you've got the Civil Rights Division
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: suing the L.A. school district for racial prejudice in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: school system. So they've got There's a lot happening all
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: at once. We'll find out more, see what Harmeet can
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: tell us coming up on this. But one more thing
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: on the FBI, and this is a massive story. We're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: probably going to have to dwell on it more in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: detail in the coming days. But this just broke overnight
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: from Reuters, and this one involves the Biden-era FBI and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a discovery that Kash Patel has just made, has just made.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Check this out. Biden's FBI, Biden's FBI... was spying on
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: both Kash Patel and Susie Wiles and their phone records,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: including while Susie Wiles was the campaign manager for the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: new Trump campaign going into the 2024 election. I got
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to put the finest point I can on this. They
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: were spying on Trump's campaign again.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Again. Again.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The FBI subpoenaed Kash Patel and Susie Wiles' phone records
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in 2022 and 2023 when both were private citizens as
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: part of a federal probe into then-former President Donald Trump,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Fox News has confirmed. Patel is the current FBI director.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Wiles is the White House chief of staff. At least
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: 10 FBI employees were just fired yesterday, according to Fox News.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Names were not given due to privacy reasons. The FBI
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Agents Association later, quote, criticized the fire. Oh, shut up.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: The FBI Agents Association condemns today's unlawful termination. They're just
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: angry that Kash Patel is holding people accountable. So they
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: caught people. I mean, you and I. can read between
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the lines here. They catch people involved on spying on
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Trump's campaign again. And the incoming FBI director, this guy, obviously,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: who is a part of holding the intelligence community accountable,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the FBI accountable for his past sins. And you had
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: FBI spying on these guys? And people get canned. You
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: get caught, you get canned. I mean, that's it. You're
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: lucky it's just a canning for now. These actions weaken
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the Bureau, the Agents Association mindlessly says. Reuters first disclosed
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the subpoenas, which were issued during the Biden administration, while
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: special counsel Jack Smith was investigating Trump's efforts to overturn
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the 2020 election. Jack Smith. Jack Smith, the unconstitutional special counsel.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Judge Eileen Cannon said, you're not even constitutionally appointed. Get
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the hell out of a courthouse. And then Jack Smith,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: what was he doing? He was spying on everybody, raiding Mar-a-Lago,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: spying on Trump's campaign, spying on Susie Wiles, it turns out,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: spying on Kash Patel, spying on sitting members of Congress.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He just sat before Congress and acted like everything he
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was doing was on the up and up. You're spying
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: on American citizens recklessly without a predicate. Smith ended up
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: charging Trump in 2023 with multiple felony offenses, yada, yada, yada.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: We know that story. So what we've learned, and then
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the Reuters piece lays this out, is they were spying
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on Susie Wiles, including from her time as the campaign manager.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: They gathered communications from her from that time. So, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this is like, you know, when they were spying on
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Carter Page, spying on the Trump campaign, sweeping up communications
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: from the Trump campaign that Carter Page was involved in.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: It just, you know, it just keeps happening over and over.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: There's a detail in the Reuters story that really stands out, though,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that I want to highlight with you. Apparently, Susie Wiles'
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: attorney knew that the FBI was spying on her phone
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: records and didn't tell her. Do you find that interesting?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Like if you hired a lawyer and your lawyer knew
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that you were being spied upon, wouldn't your lawyer have
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a duty to tell you? What's that about? Who's that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: lawyer working for? Like for real, like who's that lawyer
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: actually working for? Very interested in that. Anyway, the details
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: are just developing here, but we've got some FBI updates
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and Kash Patel apparently just canned a bunch of people
• 32:12
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• 32:16
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• 35:03
  Speaker 1: right now one of the true warriors of the Trump administration.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of them, but few as good
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: as my next guest. She is the Assistant Attorney General
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: for the Civil Rights Division. The great Harmeet Dhillon is
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: back on the program. Ma'am, great to have you back
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: with us. Good to see you.
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: Thanks for having me, Vincent. Before I forget, happy birthday.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you very, very much. It's been an amazing week.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about what you've been up to lately,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: because I keep seeing your name in headlines. You keep
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: suing school districts across the country. what's happening? Why is
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: it taking so long for schools to catch up with
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: federal law here? Because it seems like you're going after
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: school districts for ongoing racial discrimination and gender nonsense. Is
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that all still happening?
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: Oh, absolutely, Vincent. It's happening more than we can even
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: possibly keep up. And why they're doing it is because
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: they've been getting away with it for decades. And in
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: private practice, I've tried to take on some of these cases.
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: And you're playing a game of whack-a-mole. You might settle
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: with one school district, but then there are thousands of others.
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: And so United States Department of Justice has the ability
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: to really make examples out of these school districts. And
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: so some of the cases include a major case against
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: Los Angeles Unified School District, which has for years, for decades,
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: actually been engaging in a kind of racial gerrymandering when
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: it comes to allocating resources. So if a school, a
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: division of the school district has, excuse me, more than
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: 30% white people in it, it gets less funding per student,
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: which is crazy. And so this is a result of
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: a private lawsuit that happened many years ago. And it's
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: illegal to discriminate against people on the basis of their
• 36:43
  Speaker 14: race for government benefits. And so we're going to put
• 36:46
  Speaker 14: a stop to this in Los Angeles Unified School District,
• 36:49
  Speaker 14: which by some counts is the largest school district in
• 36:51
  Speaker 14: the United States. In Michigan, you mentioned gender. We're investigating
• 36:56
  Speaker 14: under Title IX three different school districts that are violating
• 37:02
  Speaker 14: the rights of parents to know what sex education their
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: children are being subjected to. I would call it sex indoctrination, really,
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: not so much the birds and the bees education from
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: when I was a kid. Today, students in the sixth grade,
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: 11 and 12-year-olds in Michigan schools are being subjected to
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: LGBTQ and trans and other sexual indoctrination. that parents aren't
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: informed of properly to allow them the ability to opt out.
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: And Supreme Court precedent has said that parents have that
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: right to opt out. So we're enforcing that Supreme Court
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: precedent in that case. And then, of course, we have
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: all these cases against colleges as well. We've just sued
• 37:42
  Speaker 14: UCLA in an 80-page-plus complaint for a litany of fairly
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: heinous anti-Semitic conduct that they've allowed to fester and be
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: tolerated there for many years now. And People are coming
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: out of the woodwork to give us more examples in
• 37:59
  Speaker 14: the UC system. And then we have other cases in
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: the pipeline as well. Of course, we just sued Harvard
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: last week for its persistent refusal to provide data to us,
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: which we're entitled to. The Department of Justice is one
• 38:14
  Speaker 14: of the many federal grant-making agencies that gives money to Harvard,
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: which last year received over $ 2. 6 billion in federal funding.
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: And Each of the agencies, be it the NIH or
• 38:25
  Speaker 14: the Department of Education, other aspects of HHS and DOJ,
• 38:30
  Speaker 14: we all have a right to confirm whether Harvard is
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: complying with federal law. And in my case, I'm particularly
• 38:36
  Speaker 14: interested in whether they're complying with the lawsuit they lost
• 38:39
  Speaker 14: at the Supreme Court students for fair admissions. And Harvard
• 38:42
  Speaker 14: has been playing hide the ball with their data and
• 38:45
  Speaker 14: refusing to provide us with the information we need to
• 38:47
  Speaker 14: assess whether they're in compliance, which, of course, begs the question,
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: why are they doing that? Well, yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: When you lose a massive lawsuit before the United States
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court, as they did, you would think that there
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: would be some mechanism to make sure that they change course.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And presumably that's your job. I mean, you're going in
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: there to get the answer, but they're refusing to give
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it to you. They're engaged in a cover-up of whether
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: or not they're actually improving things. And finally, to put
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a final point on it, that they've stopped racial discrimination
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: in admissions.
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: That's right. And in fact, even as I was preparing
• 39:20
  Speaker 14: to file this lawsuit, troubling evidence came out in a
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: report that I saw that showed that Harvard appears to
• 39:28
  Speaker 14: have increases number of Asians admitted in response to students
• 39:32
  Speaker 14: for fair admissions, but not whites. And, you know, again,
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: that's a violation of the law. I mean, Harvard's discrimination
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: policies go back decades. There was a time when Harvard
• 39:41
  Speaker 14: blatantly discriminated against Jews. Now they're blatantly discriminating in recent
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: history against Asians and whites. And I can't tell if
• 39:50
  Speaker 14: they've stopped doing it or not, because while they keep,
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: you know, sending their emissaries to various people in the
• 39:57
  Speaker 14: administration to try to reach a deal, you know, they
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: appear to be talking out of both sides of their mouths,
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: because to date, even though the president's certainly been willing
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: to come to the table, they have simply refused to
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: negotiate with us in good faith. And so we're forced
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: to file this lawsuit and there may be others.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the best deal would be if they just
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: followed the law. That's the perfect deal. Let me ask
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you about what your relationship is like when you talk
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to these institutions. Have you seen progress? Like you're talking
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: about filing lawsuits against schools and institutions that are refusing
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to do the right thing. But is there ever times
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: where you get in touch with an institution and you say, hey,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: we're concerned that you're engaged in racial prejudice or we're
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: concerned that you're engaged in this kind of like warped
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: gender propaganda? Have you found that there are institutions who
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: are changing course and going, you know what? We're going
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to fix things.
• 40:43
  Speaker 14: Well, absolutely. So I'm going to point first to the
• 40:46
  Speaker 14: half a dozen or so institutions of the elite institutions
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: that have reached settlements with the United States. I want
• 40:51
  Speaker 14: to really commend and call out Columbia University. They had
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: a pretty horrific pattern and practice of anti-Semitic and discriminatory
• 40:59
  Speaker 14: conduct there, as well as DEI issues. And they came
• 41:02
  Speaker 14: to the table with the United States. They didn't sue us.
• 41:05
  Speaker 14: They negotiated in good faith. We reached a landmark settlement.
• 41:09
  Speaker 14: That included $ 200 million of penalties to the United States
• 41:13
  Speaker 14: paid over three years, but also importantly, the largest anti-Semitism
• 41:17
  Speaker 14: class action lawsuit settlement that the EEOC was ever able
• 41:20
  Speaker 14: to obtain in history. I think it was $ 26 million
• 41:23
  Speaker 14: for victims there, including professors, faculty, even janitors who had
• 41:27
  Speaker 14: been subjected to mob interference there and just plain old discrimination.
• 41:33
  Speaker 14: And we also have had settlements. I personally negotiated a
• 41:36
  Speaker 14: Columbia one with Linda McMahon, as well as with Cornell,
• 41:42
  Speaker 14: reached a deal with Cornell, another excellent deal, Northwestern. We
• 41:46
  Speaker 14: also have deals with Penn involving specifically Title IX issues
• 41:50
  Speaker 14: in girls' sports, women's sports, I should say, and Brown
• 41:56
  Speaker 14: and others. And so I will also say that there
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: have been other institutions where they can't, University of Virginia,
• 42:01
  Speaker 14: my alma mater, although now that Abigail Spanberger is the governor,
• 42:05
  Speaker 14: she seems very determined to derail that, and other reforms
• 42:09
  Speaker 14: that have been done in Virginia. Many of these institutions,
• 42:13
  Speaker 14: I don't want to paint with too broad a brush,
• 42:15
  Speaker 14: particularly the elite public institutions. They've been extremely forthcoming and
• 42:20
  Speaker 14: willing to come to the table with us. And sometimes
• 42:22
  Speaker 14: they hire private lawyers who help them go through their
• 42:25
  Speaker 14: websites and their policies and practices and reform of them.
• 42:28
  Speaker 14: And then they come to my conference room and they
• 42:30
  Speaker 14: show us their homework. Other times I look at something
• 42:33
  Speaker 14: in the press or something that is in a complaint
• 42:36
  Speaker 14: and I open up an investigation and I get the
• 42:39
  Speaker 14: president and their lawyers and sometimes their board members who
• 42:42
  Speaker 14: come to us and they make a presentation and they
• 42:44
  Speaker 14: persuade me that actually the big picture is much less dire.
• 42:48
  Speaker 14: And sometimes there are just one-off artifacts that occur where
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: an institution really has legitimately in good faith given out
• 42:54
  Speaker 14: the order from the top down to make the necessary changes,
• 42:57
  Speaker 14: but there's a recalcitrant dean somewhere or there's a page
• 43:01
  Speaker 14: that got missed in the review and update of the websites. And,
• 43:04
  Speaker 14: you know, we're not here to rake people over the coals.
• 43:07
  Speaker 14: We're here to get the job done. And so honest
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: mistakes like that, we get them corrected and we move on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 14: But then you have UCLA and some UCLA faculty decided
• 43:18
  Speaker 14: that instead of letting the university negotiate with us, which
• 43:23
  Speaker 14: they wanted to, let's go get an injunction and prevent that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 14: So right now there's an injunction out there that prevents
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: the United States from negotiating on admissions issues with UCLA.
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: That's crazy. And we're going to be seeking a higher
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: review of that. But meanwhile, this is a totally separate issue.
• 43:41
  Speaker 14: The anti-Semitism in employment that has occurred at UCLA, and
• 43:45
  Speaker 14: I believe other UC institutions, is shocking and disappointing. Anyone
• 43:49
  Speaker 14: can read our complaint. It's linked to our press release publicly.
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: And so we've been focusing mainly on the elite institutions,
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: but on a case-by-case basis where we see Incidents that
• 44:00
  Speaker 14: are below that tier, we're also looking at those. There's 6,000
• 44:04
  Speaker 14: institutions of higher learning events that get federal funding. So
• 44:08
  Speaker 14: there's no way for us with the limited resources we
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: have to go after all of them. But we hope
• 44:12
  Speaker 14: to make examples out of some of the worst ones.
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: And we hope that the rest of them do the
• 44:15
  Speaker 14: right thing.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, high profile cases get far reaching results. So that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. Here's something I'm
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: interested in. So you mentioned a couple of institutions that
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: have improved their practices, whether it's Brown or Northwestern or Cornell,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: which that's great news. But the left is looking at
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: this going, they're doing something wrong and we need to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: hurt them for working with you and the Trump administration.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Just this past week, Susan Rice sat down on a podcast,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I believe with a former U.S. attorney, Preet Bharara, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: was bragging about how when the left gets power again
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in the United States, we're not going to play by
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the old rules. We're going to go after these institutions
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: who have done this, who have kind of bent the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: knee to Donald Trump. And I couldn't help but think
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of the mission that you're on here, Armeet, which is
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that you're trying to get the institutions to stop using
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: racial prejudice. You're stopping them from being anti-Semitic. You're stopping
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: them from gender propaganda. I'm pretty certain what Susan Rice
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: is talking about. What do you make of a statement
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 45:19
  Speaker 14: Well, I shudder to think about not playing by the
• 45:21
  Speaker 14: old rules because the old rules included indicting the president,
• 45:24
  Speaker 14: included trying to disbar and disbarring lawyers who simply gave
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: private legal advice to a client who didn't act on it,
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: and spying on members of Congress and United States senators
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: by the Department of Justice. I mean, it's really, those
• 45:39
  Speaker 14: are the old rules. I mean, what are they going
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: to do to us with their new rules? Chase us
• 45:44
  Speaker 14: down and behead us in the streets? Who knows? It's
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: kind of sad, really. But I'll tell you, this is
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: not a specter that is theoretical. Abigail Spanberger has already
• 45:58
  Speaker 14: gone after all of the officials at University of Virginia
• 46:01
  Speaker 14: who negotiated with us in good faith and did the
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: right thing for the institution. They avoided economic catastrophe for UVA,
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: which is my law school alma mater, which receives, I think,
• 46:11
  Speaker 14: more than Harvard because there's this big medical facility there,
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: three $ 3 billion approximately in federal funding, most of which
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: going to the hospital facility for treatment and for research.
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: And she forced all the board of visitors to resign
• 46:30
  Speaker 14: who had participated in reaching a resolution with us. She
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: forced the rector to resign. She's made threats about anyone
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: who played ball with us, who was part of that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: I mean, like what's the end game there, Abigail? I mean,
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: either University of Virginia is going to get federal funding
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: or it's going to be on the taxpayers of Virginia,
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: which I don't know if they have a budget with
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: the $ 3 billion they can come up with to plug
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: that hole. And UVA is of course a jewel in
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: the crown. If that's the same policy vis-a-vis all the
• 47:04
  Speaker 14: educational institutions in Virginia, there is a load of pain
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: coming for Virginia education.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Um, Harmeet, one more thing on, on schools and, um,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: and this racial prejudice stuff. We had a headline, uh,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: that came to us on Wednesday that the FBI had
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: raided the headquarters of the LA unified school district, as
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: well as the home of the superintendent in LA. Um,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know anything about it or
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: if it's in any way connected to your work. Could
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you give us any comment on that subject?
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: I would just say it's not connected to the lawsuit
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: that I filed, but I really can't comment further about, uh,
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: what is going on there in LA, but California, in particular,
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: where I lived for 25 years before joining the government,
• 47:45
  Speaker 14: has grossly bloated bureaucracies in general. But specifically, I would
• 47:53
  Speaker 14: call the most influential player in all California elections the
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: school lobby. And so there's sick amounts of money that
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: flow through the teachers union, and they really control who
• 48:04
  Speaker 14: becomes a governor and all the constitutional offices and even
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: members of Congress there. It's pretty shocking the amount of
• 48:09
  Speaker 14: power they have. And With that kind of power, and
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: then you add the bureaucratic bloat that is endemic to
• 48:14
  Speaker 14: California government, you have opportunities for corruption that are rife.
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: And I suspect that that's what we're going to find out.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Well, the Trump administration, President Trump himself has not been
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: shy about the fact that he said Minnesota is only
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: the beginning. California is the epicenter of a lot of
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the fraud that needs to be tackled. And if that's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a piece of this, then God bless them for going
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: after it because we really need to clean up this
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: fraud in our country.
• 48:38
  Speaker 14: We absolutely do. I mean, it's twofold. First of all,
• 48:41
  Speaker 14: the taxpayer, it's deeply offensive. And second of all, they're
• 48:44
  Speaker 14: stealing from the future of America by putting money in
• 48:47
  Speaker 14: their pockets instead of educating our children.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: A final question for you. The Save America Act is
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: being considered right now before the Congress. And one thing
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: that I really I've been saying a lot that I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: truly believe is that voting rights are a civil right.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: The ability to to cast that ballot and to have
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: your voice represented in your government is a civil right.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And I feel like Washington's routinely made that proclamation through
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the years. But suddenly Democrats are not making that proclamation
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to see photo ID to vote,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: these types of things. Is it your view that the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: SAVE Act should be considered a piece of civil rights legislation?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: And is it the kind of thing that Americans should
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: be fighting for?
• 49:25
  Speaker 14: Well, 100%. In fact, it's already the responsibility of the
• 49:28
  Speaker 14: Civil Rights Division to administer all of our federal election statutes, actually.
• 49:33
  Speaker 14: So the Voting Rights Act is under my umbrella, as
• 49:36
  Speaker 14: is the as is the National Voter Registration Act, the
• 49:41
  Speaker 14: Help America Vote Act, the Unified Overseas and Military UOCAVA
• 49:47
  Speaker 14: law that helps our overseas voters vote in our federal elections.
• 49:52
  Speaker 14: All of that is under the Civil Rights Division. And
• 49:53
  Speaker 14: in fact, you're correct. I mean, we do view it
• 49:56
  Speaker 14: as a civil rights issue. This Civil Rights Division has
• 49:58
  Speaker 14: filed 25 lawsuits. I mean, actually more than that, but
• 50:03
  Speaker 14: it's 25 jurisdictions that have been sued by us to
• 50:05
  Speaker 14: obtain their voter rolls or to deal with actual known
• 50:09
  Speaker 14: issues in their voter rolls and investigate irregularities such as
• 50:14
  Speaker 14: Minnesota's weirdo vouching program where one voter can vouch for
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: the addresses of up to eight other voters or an
• 50:21
  Speaker 14: unlimited number of so-called voters if they're in an institution.
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: This is crazy and it certainly doesn't comply with our
• 50:27
  Speaker 14: federal legal standards for voter registration. And so we're on
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: that and we're looking at other cases.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: As well, Vince. All right.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Harmeet Dhillon. Really appreciate your efforts and your
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: time today.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Again, the U.S.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division.
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you for being in this administration and
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: fighting for us. I appreciate you.
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: Thanks for having me.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: There's Harmeet Dhillon. Thank you very much.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: She's just so good.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's let's talk more about the SAVE Act now.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: So did you hear from Harmeet Dhillon? She says, yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: this is a piece of civil rights legislation. And I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: obviously enthusiastically agree. It's the most important civil rights legislation
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: to be considered this century in the United States Congress.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And what is the likeliness that we get it passed? Well,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you and I have been placing a lot of pressure
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: on the Senate to finally do its job. That is
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: show up to the floor and pass this thing with
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a simple majority vote. They can do it. If they
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: face down a filibuster from Democrats, fine, let them run
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: their mouths. But they can pass this with a simple majority.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: It's not really up for debate. Now, the establishment has
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: been trying to debate it. They've been pretending like some
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: rule change would be necessary. We got to go nuclear.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go nuclear. Stop lying to people.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Stop lying. So we have some updates from yesterday. John Thune,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the head of the Republicans in the Senate, did a
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: television appearance yesterday, and he was trying to once again
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: settle you down. He was trying to pat you on
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the head and suggest that, oh, don't you worry, we'll
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: take care of this. And we're going to have a vote. Yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: but what kind of vote are you going to have?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: If it's a show vote where you just demonstrate to
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: me that Democrats don't want fair elections, I don't need
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to see that. I know that already.
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: What would be the.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Point of that? Here's John Thune yesterday, one of two videos.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: This is the first saying that, don't you worry, I'm
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: going to hold a show vote.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: Watch.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Well, we will.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: We'll put the Democrats on the record.
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: And it's a stark contrast, I should the Democrats even
• 52:25
  Speaker 13: in the chamber last night having to sit there and
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: try and defend allowing non-citizens to vote.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: In American elections.
• 52:30
  Speaker 13: That is a losing proposition for them. So we will
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: get a vote on it. We are right now in
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: the middle of a government shutdown, so we've got to
• 52:36
  Speaker 13: try and get the government opened up first.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But in due time, we will get that up on
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the floor. We will have a vote on it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: We will make sure that the Democrats are on the record.
• 52:47
  Speaker 13: It is a stark contrast between Republicans and Democrats about
• 52:50
  Speaker 13: how they want to handle elections in this country And
• 52:53
  Speaker 13: this is going to put them, I think, in a
• 52:55
  Speaker 13: very difficult position.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It's an issue.
• 52:56
  Speaker 13: If I were running as a Democrat in the midterm
• 52:59
  Speaker 13: elections in November, I wouldn't want to have to defend.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: That's not the answer I wanted. That's the answer that
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he was hoping would make you go away. That's not
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the answer I wanted. Oh, we're going to put them
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: on the record. On the record, they're on the record.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They hate election integrity. They love vulnerable elections. They need
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: fraud to win. They're on the record. I don't need
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: more votes to prove that Democrats don't have my best
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: interests at heart. I don't need a single vote to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: prove that. So spare us with the show vote nonsense.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: What I need is for the Save America Act to
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: become law. That's what I need. Can you tell us
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: about that? So later in the day, John Thune was
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: doing a press conference and a reporter asked, put a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: finer point on the question.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Which is good.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Which is, are you prepared to take this to a
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: speaking filibuster? Are you actually going to do that? And Thune,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: for the first time in this process, is beginning to
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: give us a little bit of perspective about what's happening
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He feels the pressure, ladies and gentlemen.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, the guy is seeing the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: incoming traffic. He's seeing the phone calls. He's seeing the letters.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: All of his members are getting this action. Here's John
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Thune yesterday saying, It's a cause for real debate that's
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes among Republicans right now. Watch John
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Thune's second answer on this of the day.
• 54:18
  Speaker 14: Your message to the Republicans in your conference who are
• 54:20
  Speaker 14: pushing over and over again that you guys are, you
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: can do this with the talking filibuster.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Well, there are a couple of things about that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: One is once we get on, if we were to
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: go down that path, it's very hard to pivot and
• 54:32
  Speaker 13: get back to open up the government. I frankly think
• 54:34
  Speaker 13: we ought to We need a deal to make sure
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: that DHS, TSA, Coast Guard, FEMA, all those agencies are funded.
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: And so I'm hopeful there will be a breakthrough on that.
• 54:45
  Speaker 13: That's going to require some, you know, obviously cooperation from
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: the Democrats, which we haven't seen a lot of so far.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: But we want to get to the SAVE Act.
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: We also, as I mentioned, we've got a housing bill
• 54:57
  Speaker 13: that we can pivot back and forth to if we
• 54:59
  Speaker 13: get a deal to open up the government. That's harder
• 55:02
  Speaker 13: to do once you're in the throes of a talking filibuster.
• 55:07
  Speaker 13: The talking filibuster issue is one on which there is
• 55:09
  Speaker 13: not certainly a unified Republican conference, and there would have
• 55:14
  Speaker 13: to be. If you go down that path, you're talking
• 55:17
  Speaker 13: about the need to table what are going to be
• 55:20
  Speaker 13: numerous amendments and an ability to keep 50 Republicans unified
• 55:27
  Speaker 13: pretty much on every single vote. And there isn't support
• 55:31
  Speaker 13: for doing that at this point. As I've said, and
• 55:33
  Speaker 13: we will, we will get on it and we will
• 55:35
  Speaker 13: have a vote on the SAVE Act. The context of that,
• 55:39
  Speaker 13: the process in which we consider it is still an
• 55:43
  Speaker 13: open question, but one that we're having conversations about, but
• 55:46
  Speaker 13: clearly not a unified position, at least among Republicans in
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: the Senate.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: But it sounds like that vote might be subject to
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: a 60-vote threshold.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?
• 55:53
  Speaker 13: I think that's obviously a very real possibility.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so look, you can put the pieces together on this.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Look at what he's saying. This is final. Finally, like,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: get a little bit closer to telling us the truth
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: about what's happening, which is what John Thune just did.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: A little bit closer. And the truth is, he doesn't
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: have all of his Republicans on board with the talking filibuster.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: The truth is, he doesn't have 50 right now. It's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: as simple as that. So how about say that? Like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of, you know, stuff about, oh,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: we've got all these Republicans who support the Safe America Act.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: What good is that if the thing can never actually
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: be considered for a real vote? That's like, you know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: it's meaningless. It's meaningless. What we really need is, do
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: you support using the existing rules of the Senate to finish? Now,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: we don't actually know the whip count on this question.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: We don't know which Republicans are opposed. We have a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: hunch which Republicans are opposed. I could name, I could
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: rattle off a bunch of Republicans that I suspect, Susan Collins,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski, guys like Mitch McConnell and Thaum Tillis, obviously.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's any number of Republicans, Cornyn, there's any
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: number of Republicans who are probably opposed to using the
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: speaking filibuster to get this done. And which means they're
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: opposed to passing the SAVE Act, let's be honest. If
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you're opposed to using the means available to you to
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: get this passed, you're actually opposed to passing the SAVE Act.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: That's what's happening. So the pressure needs to stay on
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: these guys. Now, Mike Lee, who has sort of been
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the guy who's been reporting back to you and to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: me every day on what's happening in the Senate, he
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: just released a video overnight saying that that is what
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the fight really is about behind the scenes, that there
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: are Republican holdouts who are still not on board with
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the speaking filibuster. Here's Mike Lee on the subject. Ready?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Here we go. Look, I get it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 11: The Senate rules are complicated. They're intimidating to some people.
• 57:45
  Speaker 11: But it's all the more reason why you should be
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: deeply suspicious of senators telling you, sorry, we can't get
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: the Save America Act passed because the Senate rules won't
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: allow it. And then you ask the follow-up question.
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: What about the talking filibuster?
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: If they then say, sorry, it won't work, make them
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: show their work. Make them establish why it is that
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: it can't be done. It's awfully easy for somebody who
• 58:14
  Speaker 11: can hide behind the complexity of the Senate rules to
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: tell you that they don't want to do something by
• 58:21
  Speaker 11: claiming that they can't do something.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: So make them show their work.
• 58:26
  Speaker 11: The truth is this could work, and it needs to work.
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: We've got to get this done.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: We've got to get this done. Thank you to Mike
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Lee for staying on this. So here's the homework.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: You ready?
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: First of all, For everybody, just continue to contact your senator.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Encourage them to support the talking filibuster.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Encourage them.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Just keep that message, a steady drumbeat, showing up before
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the United States Congress. Part two, this is not for
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: the whole audience. This is for the conservative journalists. If
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you represent any media outlet that's approaching sanity, that walks
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: around the halls of the United States Congress, you interact
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: with these lawmakers. I am pleading to you. Many of
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: you are my friends, so I'm asking you this in
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: this forum. Please go up to these senators. and ask
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: them if they are going to support the Talking Filibuster.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Please. ask them.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Stay on them about this. This is priority one. We
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: have a country to save. And making our elections secure? Absolutely.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Essential.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Let's stay in the fight. I'll keep bringing the updates
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: to you. That's another update on the Save America Act.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: It's working. The fact that we got John Thune to
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: this level, where he's now sorting through, well, we've got
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: some senators who are into it, but we have others
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: who aren't. We'd have to vote against these amendments. We're
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: not there yet. Well, you're not there yet. We'll help
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you get there. We'll help you get there. Thanks for
• 59:39
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• 59:42
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• 1:00:37
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