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The Late Debate | 20 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, Welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for a brand new week on
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  Speaker 2: the Late Debate. I'm James Macverson with Caleb Bond and
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  Speaker 2: Denika Di Giorgio. I went and saw the movie Odyssey
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  Speaker 2: at the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole three hours were.
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  Speaker 4: It went for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But after all the bad press, you know, because of
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  Speaker 2: Elliott Page and it's all woke, I gotta say it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't too bad.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it is a Christopher Nolan film, right,
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  Speaker 5: so you'd like to think it was good. But having
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  Speaker 5: now watched it, do you think that? And I haven't,
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  Speaker 5: so I can't make a criticism on the basis of
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  Speaker 5: having seen the film. Do you think the hullabaloo over
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  Speaker 5: the casting was overblown?
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  Speaker 4: Completely overblown?
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  Speaker 2: In fact, Elliott Page, who is the female now identifying
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  Speaker 2: as a male so she was cast in a male role,
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  Speaker 2: was hardly on screen. I reckon maybe three or four
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  Speaker 2: minutes in a three hour movie. If you hadn't known
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  Speaker 2: any of the pre publicity, you wouldn't have even battered
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  Speaker 2: than an.
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  Speaker 1: Eyelid and Helen of Troy being black.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't cross my mind. Actually, I just got into the story, So.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's really interesting because obviously we talked about it.
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  Speaker 5: I think you might have been hosting Sharry a couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks ago. We talked about it with the Joe
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  Speaker 5: Hildebrand when he was here. So I think we'll have
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  Speaker 5: to do a delegation. Seeing as James didn't in visus Janika,
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  Speaker 5: you and I might have to go and.
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  Speaker 1: Check for ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: We might have to go to the cinema. Indeed, we
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  Speaker 3: should be a little little three hour number.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I have a lot of thoughts on Odyssey, despite
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  Speaker 6: the fact that actually, you know, the film wasn't as well.
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  Speaker 6: You can find out more on Danika Goes Global podcast
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  Speaker 6: tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 3: Just a little throw in.
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  Speaker 6: But I still have a lot of concerns about the
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  Speaker 6: way that Hollywood is going, the wokeness of Hollywood.
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  Speaker 4: It's gone.
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  Speaker 3: It's gone, the EI pathway.
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  Speaker 4: No question.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the program. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. Australia's women's basketball coach caught up in a
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  Speaker 2: race route after describing a black American player as a
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  Speaker 2: protected species. A labor mp course for bands on protests
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  Speaker 2: outside Jewish schools and synagogues. British politicians advised to install
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  Speaker 2: safe rooms in their homes after the murder of Conservative
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  Speaker 2: MP Ann Whitcombe, and the New York District School becomes
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  Speaker 2: the first in the world to replace a human teacher
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  Speaker 2: with the humanoid robot.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to all of that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: But first, the United Kingdom has its seventh Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: in ten years, with Andy Burnham officially taking over from
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  Speaker 2: Sekeir Starmer. The former Manchester Mayor visited Buckingham Palace a
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  Speaker 2: few hours ago to inform the King of his intention
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  Speaker 2: to form a government. And of course you would have
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  Speaker 2: seen on Paul Murray's program the speech he gave will
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  Speaker 2: show you some more of that.
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  Speaker 4: In just a moment. Burnham's going to move into number ten.
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  Speaker 2: Sekeir Starmer vacated earlier today and as he left, Sekeir
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  Speaker 2: Starmer made these remarks.
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  Speaker 7: So as I now passed the baton to Andy Burnham,
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  Speaker 7: I wish him every success.
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  Speaker 1: He has my full support.
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  Speaker 7: I go with good grace, I go with a smile,
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  Speaker 7: and I go proud of everything that we have achieved.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: So out with the old end, in with the new.
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  Speaker 2: Here's some of what Andy Burnham said just a few
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  Speaker 2: minutes ago.
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  Speaker 8: I have just come from Buckingham Palace, where I have
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  Speaker 8: accepted His Majesty the King's invitation to form a government.
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  Speaker 1: We will make.
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  Speaker 8: This moment a circuit breaker for Britain, bringing forward the
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  Speaker 8: biggest changes in the last forty years, a new political
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  Speaker 8: model and a new economic model. Let us make this
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  Speaker 8: the moment when Britain starts to believe again, the moment
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  Speaker 8: we bring back hope.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, everybody. Great day for the United.
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  Speaker 2: Kingdom, Caleb or more of the same or possibly worse.
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  Speaker 2: How's this going to go?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the answer that probably remains to be seen, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 5: Because the interesting thing about mister Burnham is that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: obviously it's been a matter of a fewer than forty
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  Speaker 5: days that he's gone from being the Mayor of Birmingham
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  Speaker 5: to Prime Minister, a Manchesterham Manchester to Prime Minister. But
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  Speaker 5: prior to that he had spent sixteen years in Parliament
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  Speaker 5: as an MP and had served as the Labor Health Secretary.
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  Speaker 5: And yet still no one seems to know a great
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  Speaker 5: deal about him. What we do know about him is
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  Speaker 5: that he appears to be more of the left than
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  Speaker 5: his predecessors. So Kere Starmer, and I think in that
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  Speaker 5: speech there he kind of laid that out in terms
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  Speaker 5: of he wants to get back to public ownership of assets,
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  Speaker 5: he wants to use the power of the government in industry,
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  Speaker 5: which are you know, pretty left wing labor policies. So
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  Speaker 5: how that plays out, we shall see. One of the
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  Speaker 5: big problems, of course, that the Labor Party has had
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  Speaker 5: in the United Kingdom is an.
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  Speaker 1: Insurgent reform party.
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  Speaker 5: There's been a great deal of interest, as there has
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  Speaker 5: been in this country with one nation in going to
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  Speaker 5: an alternative party on the right. Whether or not having
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  Speaker 5: a Prime minister who he is further to the left
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  Speaker 5: actually does anything to help with that problem, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: And I note that he said the first order he
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  Speaker 5: would make when he turned around and walked through the
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  Speaker 5: doors of Number ten was an order to end rough
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  Speaker 5: sleeping in the United Kingdom, and it rather made me
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  Speaker 5: think of Bob Hawk in nineteen eighty seven when he
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  Speaker 5: said that by nineteen ninety, no child in Australia we'll
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  Speaker 5: be living in poverty. If this is your centerpiece policy,
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  Speaker 5: the first thing you've announced you're going to do, is
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister, is say we have to end rough sleeping.
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  Speaker 5: Good luck is all I can say, because it ain't
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  Speaker 5: going to happen. And when you make sure and say
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  Speaker 5: you know, by twenty twenty eight, nowe is going to
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  Speaker 5: be a rough sleeper in the United Kingdom. But when
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  Speaker 5: you start going after things like that and saying you
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  Speaker 5: are going to in rough sleeping, it's like hawk saying
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  Speaker 5: we're in poverty for children.
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  Speaker 1: It's never going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: You shouldn't be tying yourself to those sorts of promises
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  Speaker 5: because this simply not possible.
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  Speaker 6: But also was that the right thing to be saying
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  Speaker 6: on a speech like this, All eyes of Britain are
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  Speaker 6: on this bloke. Bear in mind nobody seems to know
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  Speaker 6: who he is or what he is about. He hasn't
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  Speaker 6: really formally announced himself, as you said, calebll is the
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  Speaker 6: mayor of Greater Manchester.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you go from being a mayor, a.
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  Speaker 6: Small, low profile position, to suddenly next morning, surprise, you're
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  Speaker 6: the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. The UK is
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  Speaker 6: in an absolute mess, it's got a migration crisis, cost
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  Speaker 6: of living crisis, in an energy armageddon like the rest
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  Speaker 6: of US AH and his main priority in that speech
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  Speaker 6: was to talk about sleeping rough and I don't deny
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  Speaker 6: that it is a problem, but was that really the
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  Speaker 6: right tone to set when you're trying to introduce.
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  Speaker 3: Yourself to the British public.
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  Speaker 6: Because you've gone from one village idiot in Kiostama here's
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  Speaker 6: goodbye speech that the clapping we're all going by see
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  Speaker 6: you later boring, and then you go to Andy Burnham,
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  Speaker 6: who really you know, look, we'll try and give a
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  Speaker 6: bit a bit of credit. Maybe probably got a bit
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  Speaker 6: more charisma than what Kiir Starmer has, but introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 3: You know, who are you? But what do you stand for?
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  Speaker 1: Who are you about?
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  Speaker 6: Because from that little snippet, that five minute speech, we
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  Speaker 6: got absolutely nothing. What's his foreign policy credentials? What's his
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  Speaker 6: view on global politics?
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  Speaker 3: Do we know? Seriously?
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  Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting to me is, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: they gave Keir Starmer a big ovation. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: there were so many people, the Mayor of London, Sadik Khan,
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  Speaker 2: he was standing out in front of number of round
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  Speaker 2: to clap for Sekia and so they're all honoring the
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  Speaker 2: former prime minister, right, and then the new guy gets
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  Speaker 2: up and says, may this be the moment that Britain
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  Speaker 2: starts to believe again and we're going to bring back hope.
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  Speaker 2: How can you clap Sekiir Starmer if on the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, no one believes everyone's lost hope, but now
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get those things going. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit disingen you was to pretend Kirstamer had done
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  Speaker 2: a great job. The other interesting thing about Andy Burnham
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  Speaker 2: as he said he is going to bring the biggest,
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  Speaker 2: biggest change to the UK in quote unquote our lifetimes,
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  Speaker 2: and of course he doesn't have an electoral mandate to
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  Speaker 2: do anything. He has usurped the position as Prime minister.
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  Speaker 4: He should go to a quick election.
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  Speaker 2: I note that he called Rishi Sunak when he took
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  Speaker 2: over the top job without facing the voters to call
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  Speaker 2: a snap election. I don't think he will, but he
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  Speaker 2: certainly ought to when he's proposing major changes, especially if
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  Speaker 2: they are of the nature that you described, Caleb, where
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  Speaker 2: it's major left wing policy.
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  Speaker 5: I would also say mister Burnham should be watching his
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  Speaker 5: back very carefully now that he is Prime minister, because
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  Speaker 5: we should note this is the seventh prime minister in
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  Speaker 5: ten years in the United Kingdom. Most of that happened,
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  Speaker 5: of course under the Tories. Now, in one hundred and
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  Speaker 5: twenty odd years that the Labor Party has existed in
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  Speaker 5: the UK, this is the first time this has happened
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  Speaker 5: basically in fact that they still haven't replaced a prime
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  Speaker 5: minister by forcing them out. Sirki of course resigned in
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  Speaker 5: order for this to happen. Never have they actually forced
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  Speaker 5: a spill by getting the requis at twenty percent plus
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  Speaker 5: one in order to force a prime minister to go
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  Speaker 5: stand down and call a ballot. And so having now
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  Speaker 5: done this and rolled a sitting prime minister effectively, mister
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  Speaker 5: Burnin would want to be careful because he's got a
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  Speaker 5: lot to live up to now. I mean, he's basically saying,
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  Speaker 5: I'm the man to fix the terrible polls for the
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  Speaker 5: Labor Party after Sirk here won you more than four
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  Speaker 5: hundred seats in a landslide, which they all loved at
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  Speaker 5: the time, and now they've gone off him and they're saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: this is the bloke who's going to fix the problem
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  Speaker 5: for us. If he doesn't fix the problem, why does
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  Speaker 5: he think that in a year's time he would be
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  Speaker 5: any different?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 5: This revolving now of ministers I think is fundamentally a
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  Speaker 5: bad thing, and the Labor Party has now opened themselves
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  Speaker 5: up to that as well. And once it starts, I
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  Speaker 5: suspect it does not stop.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 6: The other thing is is that in his speech he
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  Speaker 6: said that later he said later this year, I'll outline
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  Speaker 6: a plan, a plan for what you know, are you
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  Speaker 6: going to give us a bit of an idea of
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  Speaker 6: what you're laying a plan out for?
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  Speaker 3: And also later this year.
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  Speaker 6: It's a long time to wait, when the British public
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  Speaker 6: are already so disillusioned after two years of Keir Starmer
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  Speaker 6: and a reform that's chasing their backsides, to wait for later.
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  Speaker 3: This year to come up with a plan.
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  Speaker 6: He has had weeks weeks now knowing that he was
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  Speaker 6: going to be parachuted into this role, to have again
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  Speaker 6: something to say, something to offer.
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  Speaker 3: So he keeps saying that you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: bring back hope.
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  Speaker 6: But what does that mean because the British public have
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  Speaker 6: been looking for hope for a very very long time
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  Speaker 6: and I just think he missed the moment today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's certainly building his appeal on, as you said, charisma,
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  Speaker 2: which when you're following Kisstarma.
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  Speaker 4: Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty easy, it's pretty easy to have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: charisma to Andy Burnham's credit. I mean, he's got the
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  Speaker 2: sort of the glint in his eye, the cheeky grin,
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  Speaker 2: he's got that sort of false modesty. He doesn't like
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  Speaker 2: wearing a tie. In fact, I said, I think he
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  Speaker 2: said he'll only wear a T shirt.
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  Speaker 4: And a jacket. No, he needs to wear a par Parliament.
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  Speaker 4: When you were.
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  Speaker 6: Actually that was one point I was going to make,
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  Speaker 6: I thought again, the attire wrong. He should be in
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  Speaker 6: a tie. He has got to be the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 6: of the United Kingdom. He needs to be in a
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  Speaker 6: tie all the time, not a T shirt and a jacket.
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  Speaker 6: Not a shirt and a jacket. It needs to be
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  Speaker 6: professional at all times.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to be relatable and cool and it's working
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  Speaker 2: for him to a point. But like you said, Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: he's created such high expectations that this is going to
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  Speaker 2: be different. This is the moment. They will not give
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  Speaker 2: him long to live up to that though. He'll want
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  Speaker 2: to produce pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 5: We'll go and ask Malcolm turn be laughter. He enrolled
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  Speaker 5: Attorney Abbott for thirty years poles.
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  Speaker 1: In a row. It didn't get too much better out
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  Speaker 1: than that.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe he wants to talk to Dan Andrews, you know,
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  Speaker 5: business about ring relatable. Dan Andrews might like to send
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  Speaker 5: him a north Face jacket and we'll see whether Rob
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  Speaker 5: that does an edom for his casual attire. Let's move
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  Speaker 5: from politics to sports. Yes, always good to be sporting.
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  Speaker 1: On the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 5: This story pertaining to the coach of the Oples now
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  Speaker 5: the Opals is our national women's basketball team.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Sally Brondelo.
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  Speaker 5: She's one of the best female basketball players this country
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  Speaker 5: has ever produced. She also coaches oversees the Toronto Tempo team,
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  Speaker 5: which competes in the w NBA in the United States.
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  Speaker 5: And she made what you would think, on the face
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  Speaker 5: of it was a reasonably inconsequential comment after one of
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  Speaker 5: her players, Naara Sabali, went down with an injury after
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  Speaker 5: she made contact with the player on the opposition team,
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  Speaker 5: the Atlanta Dream.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Angel Reese. This is what Miss Brondelo said.
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  Speaker 4: She rolled over.
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  Speaker 5: You know, she was angry that her one of her
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  Speaker 5: players was injured and out of the game, and she
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  Speaker 5: was obviously upset about what had happened and thought that
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  Speaker 5: Angels should have been.
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  Speaker 1: Redressed for it.
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  Speaker 5: And so she says she's a protected species, by which
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  Speaker 5: she means, well, why is anything being done about this?
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  Speaker 5: Something that you might say all the time, you know
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  Speaker 5: that person's a protected species.
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  Speaker 1: We all know that that means.
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  Speaker 5: It simply means someone you know, who gets awayward things,
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  Speaker 5: they're not punished when they ought to be. So you
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  Speaker 5: might say, what the hell is the problem with that?
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  Speaker 5: Apparently racism, that's the problem with it. Yes, over in
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  Speaker 5: the United States, they apparently think that protected species is
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  Speaker 5: some kind of racist comment because this player in question,
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  Speaker 5: Angel Reese, is black, and she indeed put a tweet
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  Speaker 5: up or a poster suppose you could say these days
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  Speaker 5: on x because it's not Twitter anymore where she referred
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  Speaker 5: to this very comment and she said are we surprised
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  Speaker 5: and tagged Sandy brondelaw in with a clown face there
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  Speaker 5: under the comment calling a black woman a species. Now
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  Speaker 5: for this, missus Brondello has been banned for a match.
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  Speaker 5: And she then put out this long statement online because
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  Speaker 5: of all of this, in which she said, Angel, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Last night in the emotion of the moment after Nayara's injury.
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  Speaker 5: I used a phrase that I shouldn't have used, and
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  Speaker 5: I take full responsibility for that. My frustration was the
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  Speaker 5: with the officiating, but my words unfairly put the focus
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  Speaker 5: on you. I also understand that my words carried an
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  Speaker 5: impact beyond what I intended, particularly for black women in
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  Speaker 5: our league, and I'm deeply sorry for that. I've spent
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  Speaker 5: my career competing with, coaching and learning from incredible black women.
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  Speaker 5: I regret that my words caused hurt to a community
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  Speaker 5: I respect so deeply. I have a lot of respect
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  Speaker 5: for you, you as both a player and a person,
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  Speaker 5: and I sincerely apologize to you, your teammates, and the
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  Speaker 5: Dream Organization for my comment. Now, I have to say
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  Speaker 5: that is extremely classy and gracious on miss Bondello's behalf,
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  Speaker 5: because I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: She's done anything wrong. I mean, she calls her.
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  Speaker 5: A protected species, which is a common term in Australia.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know that the rest of the world wasn't
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  Speaker 5: aware of it, and now she's made to apologize because
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  Speaker 5: it's allegedly racist.
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  Speaker 1: And banned for a match.
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  Speaker 5: All right, she made the apology, right, fine, Why does
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  Speaker 5: she need to be banned? For a match for saying
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  Speaker 5: something so inoccub I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Surprised you give her credit for the apology. The apology
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  Speaker 2: was terrible because the apology missed the key point, which
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  Speaker 2: is I was born in Mackay in North Queensland, Australia,
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  Speaker 2: where protected species is something we typically talk about. You
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  Speaker 2: know Collingwood players at the MCG. It means a sporting
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  Speaker 2: person who the umpires never penalize, and so I meant
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  Speaker 2: no ill Will. It had nothing to do with your race.
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  Speaker 2: It's an Australian colloquialism that you know you misinterpreted, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't mean anything by it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to have cultural understanding, it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be both ways, right, So if you're an Australian coaching
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  Speaker 2: in America, yes you've got to be sensitive to American
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  Speaker 2: cultural norms, but by the same token, you can surely
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  Speaker 2: ask that they're sensitive to the fact that you're not
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  Speaker 2: from the United States, so you don't understand some of
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  Speaker 2: these nuances. The problem I think with the apology was
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: she played the game. She said I used a phrase
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have used. Well, you deserve to be suspended
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: if you are admitting you used a phrase you should
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: not have used. I would argue it was a perfectly
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: innocuous phrase for an Australian to use about sport.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: She should have said that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: But my point, just to be very quickly, My point
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: was that she didn't play the victim herself, which I
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: thought was gracious of her to do.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: But the problem that I also had with the apology
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: was it sounded very much all lawyers speak.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: It was if the Opals were like, we better get
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: a statement out as quickly as possible, because we can't
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: possibly it is seen to be as a racist club,
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: because you know what the left are like, they pile
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: up on everything, but even some of the words. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: also understand that my words carried an impact beyond what
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: I had intended, particularly for black women in our league.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: That to me sounds like it was cobbled up in
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: the middle of the night in a scrambled pr risk
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: management moment where everyone's gone into absolute panic mode.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Even though I will point out that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: The Opals have a lot of players who are of
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: different backgrounds. That's what makes the team so good. There
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: are so many wonderful players in that side. But look again,
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: why is it that the Left's immediate response is racism,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: and it gets to a point where the left plead
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: racism so many times that it actually loses its meaning
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: when there is genuine racism that is occurring. This is
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: not racism, This is beyond racism. In fact, I would
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: argue there would be members of any sporting side, any
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: basketball league, that have specifically been targeted by racist remarks,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: and this is not at all a racist remark. And
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: I also just worry the fact that she was so
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: quick to apologize and the league immediately suspended her for
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: one match that they're completely bending over to DEI and
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: to the left.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: The interesting thing about the suspension, as I understand it,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: is she wasn't suspended as a result of you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: officials heard the comment, thought that's not on, we need
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to have an investigation, and then they decided to suspend her.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: The comment was picked up by people watching the game
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: who started posting about it on social media.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: It got all.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Sorts of momentum, and then in response to the public outcry,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the WNBA have acted and suspended her, Which is a
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: whole new thing when it comes to sporting tribunals, right,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: because really she was suspended because the mob kind of
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: got on this case and drove it to the point
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: where officialdom had to come in and make a decision,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: otherwise they looked complicit.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Well, if it had never been heard on the I
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: was going to call it a stump mark, I'm thinking
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: of cricket. But if it had not been heard on
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: a mark inside the stadium, no one would have even
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: known that she'd said it, and this would never have
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: been a thing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: But it's the reaction of the end that WNBA to.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Think that this is even worthy of their time, which
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: is what is forced her to make this apology, Like
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: they should have the WNBA would have gone to her
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: and she would have said, oh, look, you know, it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: something we say in Australia all the time. And then
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the w NBA should have said, no case to answer.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: You know, we've made her aware that there are people
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: in America who take it as a racial insult.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: She's taken that on board. It won't happen again.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Bang end of like, why need you be suspended for
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: a match for saying something that is clearly has no
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: ill intent whatsoever?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: So I mean God helped the next ossie who goes
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to the United States and says something that they had
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: no idea was offensive.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yep, you've already found guilt.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I'll say, drongo, and they'll find out that that's some
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: sort of racial That's.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: What I mean.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: The left to go on, that must be a racist term. Again,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: it's just so overused. The term is just so overused.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Well look, let's go.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: To Germany now, where the country is considering the unthinkable
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: Sunday shopping.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Would you believe, yes, seven day trade.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: There's actually a ban in place on Sunday trade, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: the band's been in place for one hundred and fifty years,
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: which I find to be quite extraordinary, given that Germany
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: is an elite tourist destination and it's surrounded by countries
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: that are also too massive tourist destinations, but look to
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: save its own economy. Now, the German chancellor wants to
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: pull the lever and be gone with Sunday ghost towns
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: and is asking people and asking businesses to take up
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Sunday trade. He wants to do this in a gradual process, so,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: for example, bakeries, instead of being able to open for
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: three hours every Sunday, they be able to extend their
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: hours up to seven hours and confectionery company is as well.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Now it's got our sort of thinking. Should it be
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: the law here in Australia when it comes to Sunday trade. Now,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Sunday trade is of course legal, but there are restrictions
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: and different states have their own I guess you know
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: rules when it comes to this. In Western Australia. I
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: know that they don't open to eleven am on a Sunday,
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: which I actually think is very very late eleven am
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: till five pm. You've got places here in Sydney that
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: are allowed to open from nine am. So it all
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: just really depends on the different jurisdictions. But in my view,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: I do not think that this should be enshrined in
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: law that you absolutely have to work on a Sunday.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I'll look at store.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, business owners should be able to
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: do whatever they want to do. But I look at
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: businesses like hairdressers or beauticians that are typically quieter would
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: be quieter on a Sunday. Why on Earth should they
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: be forced to open? In particular, if they are small
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: business with only a couple of employees or a sole trader,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: While on Earth would they be forced to be on
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: a Sunday, for you would never get your bank for
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: your buck, you would never get the return on investment.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: There's no point hiring staff for it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: So I don't think it should be absolutely legislated that
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: we should go down this pathway. There are one point
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: three million Australians who usually work on a Sunday already.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: That's about eleven percent of the population. That's quite a
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: fair bit when you think about it. But there are
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: stores that have to open. But I just think to
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: make it a blanket rule, I don't think that would
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: be fair in an already difficult economy for a business.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're ever going to make it the
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: law that a business has to open, because then you'd
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: start nationalizing the businesses after that point, wouldn't you. It's
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: more about whether or not the business has the right
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: to open or not, and presently, as it stands in Germany,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: many of them don't have the right to open on
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: a Sunday. I cannot see how in a modern world
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: there is any justification for that anymore.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, as you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Say, in Wa, it's still eleven o'clock on a Sunday.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Until very recently it was the same in South Australia,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and this was debated endlessly in South Australia for a
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: very long time. Interestingly, it only applied in Adelaide. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: don't know what the rules are in WA, but in
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: South Australia it was only Adelaide where you couldn't open
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: until eleven o'clock. As soon as you've got beyond the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: threshold of suburban Adelaide, which was half an hour up
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: the road into the hills at Mount Barker, you could
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: open your supermarket at seven am on a Sunday, no rules,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: no problems, but they're still close at five Whereas here
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: in Sydney, you know, my local Woolies is open till
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: ten pm. If a business thinks it can do trade
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: and that people will shop, it should have the right
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: to open. I don't know why there should be any
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: rules whatsoever on the times, hours days that a business
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: should be able to be open. And I would argue
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: that in the modern world, if the government dictates to
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Brixton more to retail when they can and cannot trade,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: they are putting them at a disadvantage because of course
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: online trade and commerce can operate twenty four to seven
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: and people will shop online twenty four to seven. But
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: you tell someone who's invested in a bricks and mortar
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: shop that they can't trade between the hours of such
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: and such and such and such, I think that's.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Just wrong, isn't it That old adage, you know, before
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you pull a fence down, maybe ask why people put
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it there in the first place.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: So you say, I can't see any.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Justification why the government should say no trading on a Sunday.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Why were the rules put there in the first place.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Fundamentally so people could go to church.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Well, church, community, family, so that people didn't feel like.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: And that's why the eleven AM rules still exists, because
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: some people can go to church.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And I suppose so so that you don't feel like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: you're just a consumer, always consuming, but you're more than that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: So they could build community.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: What's interesting to me about the German illustration is only
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: thirty four percent of Germans want Sunday trading. The rest
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: don't want it, which is why when you said they're
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: going to introduce it gradually, because they've got not even
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: half support. But I think forty four percent of people say,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: well we prove, you know, maybe bakers and a couple
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of other sort of specialty shops. So forty four percent
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: will approve that, but only thirty four percent will approve everything.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So the government have said, well, we'll go with a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: little bit just to get you there, and we all
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: know what will happen. Right, incrementalism. I think there's a
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: good argument to say that society has not gotten any
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: better by turning us into a twenty four to seven
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: shopping mall where everybody's running around ragged. I think there's
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: some wisdom to having one day of the week where
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: we all agree, you know what, you don't have to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: go to church, but just rest take the opportunity to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: build community relationships family. I don't we're certainly not going
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: back right, No, Paul Enhanson is not going to win
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: government and say we're banning Sunday trading. But I'm not
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: sure we should be too quick to poo poo those
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: who look back on that time in Australia or Germans indeed,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: who say we've currently got that situation. We don't want
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to change it as being backward, but I think maybe
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: we've lost.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Something for Germany, though it is very bizarre. When you
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: are a tourist economy, all you have to do is
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: just hop over the border into another country and you
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: can go shopping the more all you like. I just
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: think it's I can understand it. In Australia. It's we
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: have a very different economy. We don't rely at number one,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: you know, we don't rely on tourism as much. But
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty year ban on Sunday trade in Germany,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: I don't remember like that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I went to Germany years ago. I just don't remember
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a Sunday trade.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I mean as a kid, I remember like there was
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: no sport on a Sunday. I remember when it was
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: either cricket Australia or the AFL. I forget which. But
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I was in primary school and they were going to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: have games on a Sunday and it was a big deal.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I would have been in I.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Reckon maybe grade six, grade seven at school and everyone
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: was talking about it was a huge thing.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: But how bizarre would it be now if you couldn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: go to the shops on a Sunday?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I know, but and this is this is what
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Would it be bad? Yeah? I don't. I don't agree
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: with a blanket ban.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's bad for business.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Why would you why would you operate bricks and mortar
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: shop if the government said that you could open six
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: days a week, But your mate's online who don't have
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: the frontage and all those overhead costs can operate twenty
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: four to seven with no restrictions. I mean you'd say,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: bugger it, I'm just going online. I'm not going to
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: operate a shop.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: You make a fair point the online shopping.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because because we're already shopping twenty four to seven,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: because we have the ability to do it online. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: so I think if you take those opportunities away from
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: bricks and mortar shops, you are just disadvantaging people who've
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: invested in local economies because they've opened up a local shop.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Piicularly a small business person who wants to peddle their
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: wars and compete with the online people. But the government says, sorry, mate,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: you can't do it on Sunday when there are actually
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: more people around who might go for a wander up
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: the local high street and walk.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Into a little shop. I think it's unfearful them.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye on what the Germans are going
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here in Australia, former Attorney General Mark Dreyfus
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: has told the Anti Semitism Commission that he thinks the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: government should ban protest guests outside Jewish schools and synagogues,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: much like there's a restriction on protests outside abortion critics.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Here's some of what he had to say.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: It's time to consider whether we need some similar restriction
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: on protest activity outside synagogues, on protest activity outside schools
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: and Jewish places of gathering.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty sensible suggestion, and it's hard
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to argue. If abortion providers get a one hundred and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: fifty meter exclusion zone to keep protesters away, it doesn't
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: mean you can't protest abortion. It just means you can't
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: get up in the faces of people using those facilities.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: If we're going to make that argument, whether you agree
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: or not, that's the situation, then surely protesters should not
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: be allowed to intimidate school kids outside Jewish schools or
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: worshipers outside synagogues, and especially not when the federal government
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: is spending ten of millions of dollars every year to
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: provide security for Jewish people going about their community business.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea and the government should.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Do it to say where has Mark Dreyfus been for
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: the last couple of years now, he's just because he's
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: been called up for the Royal Commission. Now he wants
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: to try and make changes. And bear in mind that
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Mark Dreyfus is one of the most senior Jewish members
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: of the Labor government, and yet I think he's been
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: awfully silent on a number of issues over the last
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: couple of years personally, but credit where it's due. Good
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: to see him taking a stance on this one.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: I think it is entirely inappropriate to be holding protests
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: outside of any place of worship, not just synagogues. Can
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: you imagine if there was one outside of a mosque?
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Can you imagine the uproar. Well, I don't think it's appropriate.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think you're a place of worship in appropriate.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: I don't have an issue with protesting, but I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: we have to be very careful where we protest. So well,
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: an anti Jusayer, pro Palestine protest outside of a synagogue
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: that would be appropriate to you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's appropriate. It doesn't mean I think
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the law should prevent it from doing so.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: Can't they move move somewhere else? Where it's not disrespectful.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you would, you would.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: So let's say he's talking here purely about synagogues, right,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: but if we expand it out to all places of worship.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: You believe that a mosque in Australia should have a
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: special privilege in that you cannot protest outside of it
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: against something that that mosque might be advocating for.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I think any place of worship, not just a mob.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Appropriate mum got up if in Nimam got up in
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: a mosque, Because let's be serious. If it's going to
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: apply to synagogues, it has to.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Apply to all player, doesn't. No, No, my integogue has
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: become a special rule.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: To protect Jewish people in this community, and it should
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: not be a blanket thing outside churches and mosques and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: every other community center. I don't agree with that. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: want freedom for people, but I think we've got to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: realize anti Semitism is in a category all its own.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: It's a danger for the entire community and Jews need
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to be protected.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: What about an abortion What about an abortion protest outside
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: of a Christian or Catholic.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Church right at the front, Sure, go for it. You
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: don't think that that's a problem.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: We don't have a situation in this country where people
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: are calling for the eradication of the only Christian state.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know I've got that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is the anti Semitism that experience
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: is unlike any other racism or any other bigotry or
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it in this country, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: it's just flat out intimidation. And I think we've got
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to do something to protect Jews. I think we need
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to realize it's a special circumstance.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: We don't apply it across the board.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: So if it's disrupting service because you've got Holigans out
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: the front yelling about abortion or yelling about euthanasia, yep,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: that's not a problem.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we had protests outside Brisbane Christian College
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: or whatever COOC College in Mansfield because of their stance
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: on gay issues a couple of years ago.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Do you think if you're going to make exceptions, I
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: agree because I think that Jews have not been protected
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: in the community.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: It has been absolute disgraced.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: But if you're going to make one provision for one group,
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: then you'd get Catholics and Christians going, well, hang on
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: a second, protesters.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: I don't see how you can create a special class
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: of a place of religious worship under the law, because
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: you are then treating different religions differently.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: At you, well, I think we have to treat different
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: religions differently because not all religions are the same. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: this is a conversation no one wants to have, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: we're probably not going to have it on this program.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: But Paul Enhansen is trying to have a conversation about
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: different religions in this country. And the sooner we do,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the sooner we might make some sensible decision.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: But the sooner you start doing that, you'll have the
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: same discussions about were going to protect mosques and whatever
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Think setting a precedent of protecting one religion, or two religions,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: or three religions, or all religions protecting places of worship,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I think it's a dangerous road to go down to
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: make them a specific class of place where you cannot protest.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But we have a specific threat to a specific group
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of people, so make a specific law to protect them.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I don't see the problem with that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: What I don't like is the Albanezy government saying, well,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: we can't have a special envoy for anti Semitism unless
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: we have a special envoy for Islamophobia. That kind of
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: government where.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: It's all got to be exactly what's going to happen.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: That is what's going to.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: That's what will happen. But I'm saying that doesn't need
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to happen. It shouldn't happen.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: They should recognize a peculiar threat for a peculiar group.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So let's make a peculiar law. Why not.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I think I don't have a problem with protests.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: I just think at a place of worship, I think
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: it's entirely inappropriate, and I don't care what you're protesting about.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: You can be anti Israel if that's what you want
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: to do, but far away from a synagogue or any
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: other places of worship.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: All right, Can we talk about something a little more
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: fun before we get to it. Let's apparently young people,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: and this has been sort of going on for a
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: while now that the rise of vine is a thing again, right,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: young people going out buying records.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: My brother bars records.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Don't ask me how many I don't collect records, but
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: don't ask me how many vintage radios I collect, because
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: it's far too many. And the good people down at
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Lawson's Auctions in Sydney well know that because I roll
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: in there.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Every second week and buy one and I don't know
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: where the hell to put them all. But that's okay.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: It's some sort of malady I have. But a new
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: survey has.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Found that eighteen percent of gen Z say they own
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: a vinyl record player.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like they've gone back to the d
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: You've got vinyl, don't you?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I do?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Niyah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a whole box in Perth.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: Can't bring it over to Sydney because I've got too
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: much stuff and don't have enough r like me.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But I do, and I think it's very special. It's
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: very nostalgic.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: I think when you play a vinyl record, I think
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: it sounds just beautiful.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: So we thought we'd rip out some vinyl tonight and
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: see whether our good mate here, James McPherson is aware
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: of this beautiful song.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Your head on my show.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Now, James McPherson, have you heard that song before?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Was that Billy Joel?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: James James.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: If it's not Billy Joel, it ain't worthless?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: How many times Paul anchor Paul anchor. No, he doesn't know.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Don't you think when you hear that song, it's just
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: there's something.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: About it, just there's something about it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite records?
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Well, as I say, don't own vinyl, But if I
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: were to buy a piece of vinyl, purely because you
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: like this, James, come on, because I think it's got
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: one of the greatest openings of any album ever. Yellow
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Brick Road Elton John Funeral for a Friend is just
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: the greatest opening to an album.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I would get on vinyl.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Nylon Curtain by Billy Joel, the song good Night's Side
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Gone and they've got the helicopters.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Have you heard that song? Yep, Yeah, it's fantastic.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: On a record player, I'd go for La Woman the Doors,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: All the Doors good pick.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Do you know La Woman the Doors?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I know the Doors, I don't know La will pick just.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: The soud, the sounds of the motorbike at the start
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: of the song. Yeah, it's a very long interlope.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Great, great record.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: There you go on that note. We're going to go
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: to a break when we'll come back. But look at
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: what's making headlines tomorrow, including a news poll that shows
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: an increasing number of Australians don't regard China as a
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: security threat.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: That's next, Let's take a.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Look at what's making headlines tomorrow and an interesting poll
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of Australian attitudes towards China on the front page of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Australian galib.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Indeed, maybe talking to the Handsome Boy has done China
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: a few favors into the dragon, but Ozzie's not so
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: spooking exclusive from GF Chambers. Major splitters emerged in the
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: electorate over whether President Xijingping's China poses a significant threat
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: to national security, with a growing number of left leaning
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: and university educated voters rejecting threats posed by Beijing despite
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the communist regime ramping up aggression towards Australia. An exclusive
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: news poll conducted between Monday and Thursday last week has
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: revealed a majority of One Nation voters seventy six percent,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Coalition supporters seventy four percent, women sixty one percent, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: older Australian sixty eight percent believe China poses a significant
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: threat to Australia's national security. Partisan divisions meant the total
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: number of voters who agree on the China threat has
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: fallen to sixty percent, with thirty one percent agreeing Beijing
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: does not present a major threat a nine percent who
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: don't know. That compares to a twenty twenty one News
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: poll on the same subject, asked at a peak of
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: China's attacks on the Morrison government Beijing's unfair bands on
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Australian goods in the formation of August, that showed seventy
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: five percent of voters thought Beijing posed a significant problem
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: to national security.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Now, and this is also interesting.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Says across the country, forty three percent of labor voters
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: thought they were a threat, forty eight percent of green supporters,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: forty one percent of university educated voters don't believe China
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: poses a significant threat to national security. Well, I suppose
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: it goes to prove that having a university education doesn't
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: actually mean you're smarter. In fact, there's probably a good
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: argument that it's quite the opposite these days. Unfortunately, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: what an extraordinary decline. Seventy five percent a few years ago,
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: say China's a threat. Now it's sixty percent. Now, Yes,
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: it's a majority, but it's a fair old reduction.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: And especially that China has been lapping up at our doorstep, doorstep,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: in the years since, and people don't seem to think
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: that that's a problem. And also love forty eight scent
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: of Green's voters, that's the percentage of party supporters who
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: don't believe China poses a significant threat. What do the
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: Greens actually stand for these days?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Seriously China.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I'd love a.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Poll of Green's voters to see how many of them
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: regard the United States as a significant I reckon that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: would be interesting. What is fascinating to me about this
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: poll is was at last weekend Mike Pizzullo, who's the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: former secretary of the Department of Home Affairs. He was
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: critical of the Albanezy government, saying the government is not
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: preparing Australian people for the possibility of war and they
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: need to prepare us because in the event of war,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they'll ask for sacrifices. They have not built a case
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: for it. And so this poll just shows you how
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: far the government would have to go to convince the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Australian public to accept make sacrifices for conflict in the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: event that ever arose.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: But also, you don't have to be savvy in world
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: politics to realize what's going on.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: All you have to hear is clearly there's a lot
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: of people I know, which is a real shame. And
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: it's not that hard to go.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Okay, if China's got flares off the coast of Australia,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: or China are sending ships our way, that that's a problem,
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: or China's sending a ballistic missile.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Don't people just view the news, isn't it? But what
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: are they reading?
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: What are people reading and trying to observe? I just
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: find that that extraordinary.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Also interesting that two women have an above average propensity
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: to say that China is a threat sixty one percent
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: versus that the overall of sixty percent, which the OARS
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: has pointed out. I don't know what the number is
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: for me, but presumably they pointed the women number at
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: because it's higher the number of men who say China
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: is a threat.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Women are more intuitive.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Oh well, that may be the case.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look now, why did it take so
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: long for them to get the vote? Do you think
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: what it was an easy? It was ending that one
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: up to you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Miss, Sorry I've bugging you up.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: Let's have a look now at the Daily Telegraph power
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: grab the exclusive there energy giants gouge us all in
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: drive for EV profits. Monopoly energy networks are pushing for
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: an increase in everyone's electricity bills to pay for more
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: electric vehicle charges, even though many people do not own
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: evs and will never use them. For The proposed EV
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: charger rollout could add almost ten million dollars in total
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: every year to all New South Wales electricity bills and
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: has been opposed by councils, electricity supplies and politicians. Some
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: streets in Sydney have already been invaded by slow Chinese
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: made charges stuck on polls with dedicated parking that are
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: rarely used.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've seen them all the time.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: They're an absolute I saw, and they take up half
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: the road, especially in inner city areas, and you can't
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: park because you've got to wait for the you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: the bloody the EV parker. Look, seriously, why on earth
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: should our bills go up? They're already going up, up
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: and up under this labor government, and now we're going
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: to go up again to accommodate these these companies, these
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: energy networks.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: The last I saw in New South Wales was only
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: about one point five percent of all.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Vehicles were fully electric.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of people who were subsidizing a
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: very small group. All right, front page of the Canberra Times,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: excuse me, hold the phone? Another AI fail, reads the headline.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: There's been another case where the ACT government's artificial intelligence
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: phone spotter has accused a driver of holding a phone,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: when the driver is adamant she wasn't and says she
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: has the picture to prove it. And on the front
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: page of the Canberra Times, if you get the paper tomorrow,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: excuse me, you can see the photograph where the driver
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: does appear to have both hands on the steering wheel.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: The ACT Government issued fifty eight thousand fines to people
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: accused of handling a mobile phone while driving last year,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: bringing in thirty six million dollars in revenue. That's six
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars per fine. It's a lot of money.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: But this is not the.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: First time the ACT Government has been accused of making
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: a mistake. And I note that when the South Australian
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: government was trialing these cameras back in twenty twenty four,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: they noted that numbers of mistakes were being made such
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: they had to bring in humans wherever a fine was
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: issued to double check that was actually correct. I'm not
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: sure where they've got that under control now, but there's
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: been a lot of problems in the act. Seems like
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: those problems continue well.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: There was a story I talked about it in the
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Canberra Times. I took about it on the Bond Report
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: on Friday where there's a guy who's been fighting for
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: six months over a photograph that they tried to use
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: to find him taking away one of these overhead mobile
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: phone cameras of his son driving his car. And his
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: son was like putting manual car right, moving his hand
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: towards the gearstick to change gears, and the thing's taking
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: a photo of his hand like.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That and said that there's a mobile phone in it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Very clearly there isn't. He's tried to appeal this and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the government said no, there's a phone in his hand.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Six months he's been fighting it and they refuse to
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: admit that there's no phone there.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: What an absolute joke.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: On the front of the Mercury, down Himazzi tomorrow, when
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: can you start?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: We are just taz manier.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: Look who they've got their Ken Hinckley is going to
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: coach the Tazzy Devils it, says the Tazzy Devils. Inaugural
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: AOFIL coach Ken Ingley says it won't be a challenge
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: to unite the statement the Devils come into the AFL
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty eight. Hinckley is well aware of the
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: rivalry between the north Northwest and the south of the state,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: especially when it comes to the footy community, but the
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: former Port Adelaide leader expects the club to be able
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: to unify the different regions. I don't even know if
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: it'll be a challenge. I don't even know what. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: don't even know if it'll even be a challenge. Strange
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: since I think it'll be just a natural progression for
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: the state. I mean, the rivalries that have been in
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: our state are now because we haven't been Tasmania. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: he knows about rivalries of course, coming from.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Port Adelaide where they fight with the Adelaide Crows.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I will note that Ken Hinckley holds the record of
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: the longest time coaching a team in AFL or VFL
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: history without a flag.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: So good luck to the Tazzy Devils.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But a winning percentage of almost sixty percent, which is
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: pretty dark.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I'll go out and straight it's in the finals though.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Just you watch now, we're going to take a look
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: at the advertiser before we go to a break.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: This is a classic. Have a look at this. The
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: great Pooh Done It.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Alarican has strapped a dunny and a barbecue to a
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: barge and sailed in shark infested waters to Kangaroo Island.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: This is Adelaide Bote is Alex Craig and Paul Graham.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: They've sailed a dunny to Kangaroo Island in protest about
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: costly selink fairy bears. Well oh, here's a vision that
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: actually well, I mean, this is one way to get
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: the attention, isn't it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: It's a very Ossie spirit. Would you say? It's a
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: great Pooh done It? What a line?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: That's sad. He's proper Rossie engineuity, isn't it. We weren't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: see enough for that in these days.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: That's brilliant.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: We need to do a late debate cruise, I reckon
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: on the dunny. I'll take a nice pross thank you seam,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: all right when we come back from the break. Barbaby
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Joyce was on the ABC earlier tonight and completely lost
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: it during the interview when his dog interrupted.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: That's next.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I've seen some interesting arrests in my time, Danika, but
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: nothing like the one you're about to show us.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: No, nothing like this one. It's time for.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: He don't look the day.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I'm going to introduce him now to twenty seven year
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: old Jarrett Vic, a University of Central Florida student who
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: is having a very hard time after being arrested and
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: was having an absolute freak out. Why because police misgendered him?
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Can we get another unit to deal with jay Lee here?
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: He is having a breakdown.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Say the right road now, would you say you're about
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to get spread? Well?
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Um?
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: And they've always got blue hair, don't they? They look
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: the same. There's something speaks for himself.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Could be the hair die.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It must be some sort of toxic stuff that lived like.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a brain bleach.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Bleach causes causes issues. Look, you know, and in my
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: limited dealings with the police, if you're if I've been pulled.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Over once, what about arrested?
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: No?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: I never been arrested, Deniko. I know you have experience
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: in this regard, but I've never been arrested and only
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: pulled over once only because they were bored.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Too I didn't do anything wrong. I blew zero to.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Life.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: So you've only been pulled over once. What you omit
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: is that was after a long cart chair.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: It was not at all.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: But if you're nice to them, generally they're nice to you.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Take it on board.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: That's true. We'll speak of being nice.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce was interviewed on seven thirty on the ABC
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: earlier this evening and he was asked whether the Joining
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: one nation was quote unquote dragging him towards a place
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of in tolerance. That's when his dog interrupted the interview
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: and well we got the answer.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Are you really comfortable with where she is taking you?
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I think, sorry, it's a dog.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Are you being graded to a place of insurance? That
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: part have been the quickest answer ever given on.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Seven You know what, he's just so authentic, like Dinky
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: Die Ozzie in the middle of an interview, doesn't care,
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: just shut down.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: The dog need counseling. That's a traumatized yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: But it's probably one of those big beasts in her
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: out in the country. It's probably those big beast dogs.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I laugh. If we find out it's a tiny little chow.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I know already.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: I've seen the dog running around in the background before
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: when he's done, crosses on sky and the two.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: About the World Cup Shelly.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Of course, Spain defeated Argentina this morning. Poor Argie's you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: the Falklands War they had to put up with, and.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Now this is how terrible for them.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: They've just arrived back in Ispaga and we have these
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  Speaker 5: pictures that have just come through of them walking down
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  Speaker 5: the stairs there holding up the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: But what about what they had to put up with
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  Speaker 1: Trump today in twenty twenty six the chunkions.
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  Speaker 10: Of the world, Oh Spain, FIFA boss basically is to
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  Speaker 10: drag him out of the congratulty photo there.
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  Speaker 4: He was going to be in the photo. No matter what.
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  Speaker 2: That's all we've got time for tonight, stick around. Next
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  Speaker 2: up is the Rita Penney Show.
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  Speaker 4: Good Night,