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The Last of Us Special: Episode 1 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: my stuff one never told you protection by Heart Radio
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  Speaker 1: and we are thrilled. I am thrilled. I am so
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  Speaker 1: thrilled to launch a new segment. I'm sure it's surprised
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  Speaker 1: to no one who's seen the title, but the Last
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  Speaker 1: of Us show has premiered on HBO X not currently
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  Speaker 1: a sponsor. But if you know me, you know I'm
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  Speaker 1: a huge fan. Yes, a huge fan is an understatement.
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like this is you just
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and say you are an expert of the
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  Speaker 1: Last of Us? I think that's it. Yes, yes, And
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  Speaker 1: originally we were going to just make this kind of
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  Speaker 1: like my check in on how we we are enjoying
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  Speaker 1: it or what we're loving about it or not loving
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  Speaker 1: about it as a happy hour, and we recorded an
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  Speaker 1: original intro for that, but Savantha, who is the best,
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  Speaker 1: most supportive co host, was like, I think you should.
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  Speaker 1: We should do a reaction to every episode and it
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  Speaker 1: should be its own thing and you didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: twist my arm like let's in. You'll hear in the
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  Speaker 1: in the prerecorded intro where we talk about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that yes, I think we need to do a recap.
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  Speaker 1: We need to have this conversation. It is riddled with
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  Speaker 1: amazing feminists and women characters and film characters that I
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  Speaker 1: think we should talk about anyway. Yes, it's a mistake
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  Speaker 1: that HBO I Heart did not ask Anny to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of the podcast to begin with, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to correct that course and do it ourselves. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I said. Yes, and I am so happy, like
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  Speaker 1: just even doing this rerecord, I'm getting excited of the
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  Speaker 1: intro of the intro. Everyone west the level we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about that more. I
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  Speaker 1: also wanted to clarify there are going to be spoilers
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  Speaker 1: for the episodes we're talking about, but they're always going
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  Speaker 1: to come out obviously after the episode has aired. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Samantha is doing a very good job of raiding me
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  Speaker 1: in so I don't spoil the entire show. As a team,
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  Speaker 1: we've got this. Yes, Yes, because Christina, super producer Christina
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  Speaker 1: is watching it, and I don't want to ruin it
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  Speaker 1: for her. I don't want to ruin it for people
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  Speaker 1: who have miraculously uh in one way or another, avoided
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  Speaker 1: the spoilers of this very show where I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this game and these games so so many times. There
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  Speaker 1: will be spoilers for the episode we are talking about,
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  Speaker 1: which will be labeled and and ominous hints. I will
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  Speaker 1: say there are some mm hmmm hints that was to come.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think like basically those hints are it's
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  Speaker 1: grim like, it's an apocalyose show and the creators are
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  Speaker 1: the creators of Chernobyl and if you know anything about that,
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  Speaker 1: it was tragic and sad and all. Yes. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that's about where we are. We just want to clarify,
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  Speaker 1: clarify that I'm so excited to do this, and I
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  Speaker 1: hope a bunch of you listeners join us along their eye,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope that you are enjoying it, will enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so there will be nine of these episodes.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to come out on Saturdays so that you
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  Speaker 1: can easily search for them, and they're kind of their
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  Speaker 1: own thing and for a couple as long as the
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  Speaker 1: show is airing, which is nine episodes, I believe this
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  Speaker 1: season finale is um well, I'm assuming season finale, not
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  Speaker 1: series finale, but that is March twelve. Uh, and so
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  Speaker 1: during that time, some of my happy Hours will be
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  Speaker 1: replaced with classics. We're just doing a little a little
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  Speaker 1: schedule switch. Yeah. Yeah, and we might switch out the
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  Speaker 1: name of our sex in the city segments, which also
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  Speaker 1: we should have separated into its own thing and HBO
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  Speaker 1: should have paid us more. But whatever, a great Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They might be called through back Thursdays, but it's the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, and the happy Hour will be back. Everybody.
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  Speaker 1: This is it's a temporary thing, but we had to
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  Speaker 1: take the opportunity and of it and we're gonna yes.
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  Speaker 1: So all that being said, you might hear some things
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  Speaker 1: that are very reminiscent of our happy our segments, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what it was originally. But yeah, let us get
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  Speaker 1: into it. So what are you sitting on, Samantha Um
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  Speaker 1: confession time, both of us were talking about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that last night was not a good night when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to being rested. I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 1: just an ancy night, or things were happening, or maybe
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  Speaker 1: if we're just excited about life whatever want not. So
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  Speaker 1: I did not get a lot of sleep. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: we have a pretty long day of recording as we
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  Speaker 1: do again behind the carton, as we do those in chunks. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm keeping it with my caffeinated black tea, Yes
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  Speaker 1: I am, And that's how we're leaving it that you
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  Speaker 1: Trader Joe's not a sponsor for making this winter wake up,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of chai ish I think flavor. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm keeping with the spicy emty. It is cold and
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  Speaker 1: dreary and rainy right now, so it just felt fitting. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean another peak behind the curtains is last
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  Speaker 1: week we had some pretty severe weather. I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people did, and we hope that you're all okay, um,
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  Speaker 1: But we were actually recording a different happy hour that
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  Speaker 1: was not about the Last of Us, and we had
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  Speaker 1: to stop because I thought I heard a tornado outside
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  Speaker 1: my uh and I had made a Dark and Stormy
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  Speaker 1: because of the weather, and so I have made another
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  Speaker 1: very modified not really a Dark and Stormy, but the
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  Speaker 1: closest I can make it with the ingredients that I have, UM,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is very fitting for both the weather
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  Speaker 1: and the Last of Us, Because as we've talked about,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. I feel like whiskey is the
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  Speaker 1: like I'm traumatized anti hero go to drink, they always
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  Speaker 1: go for whiskey. And Joel, who is the main character
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  Speaker 1: of the first Last of Us, is no exception, and
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  Speaker 1: we saw him drink quite a lot of whiskey. Only
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  Speaker 1: exceptions to that would be if they're like Russian, that's
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy drink and then um, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Asian people have a different it's not whiskey, it's different
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  Speaker 1: something like the bad guys. They definitely don't drink. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about I'm thinking about all the K dramas.
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  Speaker 1: They don't drink, like they're supposed to be really disciplined,
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  Speaker 1: unless they were like a psychopath bad guy, then they may,
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  Speaker 1: which is hilarious because that's K drama K actions. They're
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  Speaker 1: very extreme. That's what I'm thinking about. Yes, there is
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  Speaker 1: a variation, and like, if we ever get out of
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  Speaker 1: the also drink responsibly if you choose to do so. Um, yes,
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  Speaker 1: if we ever get out of Terminus the fiction, the
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  Speaker 1: ongoing monthly fiction that we're reading, my other like very
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  Speaker 1: close to my heart story I wrote she has. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make it purposefully like not one of those
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  Speaker 1: classic drinks. So her name is Jan and she drinks
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  Speaker 1: gin and people always make fun of her because she
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: drinks gin and her name is Gin and she's not
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  Speaker 1: somebody who likes being made fun of. Um, but I
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  Speaker 1: like to mix it all the nose. Okay, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a fun, little little like Yes, so I
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: don't think it's any surprise to anyone. I was so
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  Speaker 1: so excited about the Last of Us. Again, I cannot
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  Speaker 1: emphasize enough they are not a sponsor. Yes, and she's
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  Speaker 1: very upset about this, by the way. I'm just just
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  Speaker 1: think it's a missed opportunity. It really is that they
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: just don't understand how many times Okay, I need to
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  Speaker 1: put my caveat here. Ay, I have the reason, I
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  Speaker 1: know as much as I do, I still like a
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  Speaker 1: blacked out blaited outs on so many things because this
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  Speaker 1: is a whole traumatic journey. Justin f why if you
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  Speaker 1: are not ready for a traumatic journey, this might not
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  Speaker 1: be the show for you. Um. I think it's appropriate
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  Speaker 1: that the creators of Chernobyl is the one that's creating this,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know. Um But I was introduced to
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  Speaker 1: this game because any started playing it having arguments with
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  Speaker 1: people about why it's the best. It's a lot of controversy,
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  Speaker 1: And then she was adamant that when we were we
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  Speaker 1: were in quarantine, and you know, if you've been listening
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  Speaker 1: for a while, you know that any pretty much lift
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  Speaker 1: with me on the weekend during quarantine because we did
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  Speaker 1: not associate with anybody, and then we just stayed in house.
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  Speaker 1: At one point in time, we went all went to
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  Speaker 1: the beach together because we're like, yes, let's go do this.
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  Speaker 1: And he brought her giant PlayStation and was like, gotten
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  Speaker 1: my partner, who was an avid gamer as well. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, play this because she just wanted to watch
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  Speaker 1: what was happening and she had already played it how
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  Speaker 1: many times at this point embarrassed say come on, truth, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because but she wanted that perspective, and with that they
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  Speaker 1: it was like watching a movie. And they went through
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  Speaker 1: not only Last of Us, but Last of Us too
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  Speaker 1: and the DLC, which left just relearned again. But it
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  Speaker 1: was such a thing that not only did they do this,
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  Speaker 1: and he went back home and then got all her
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  Speaker 1: friends to watch, and they are now all caught up
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  Speaker 1: in this moment, like the excitement has been building. When
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, Annie was so excited. I got text
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  Speaker 1: the day before. I think I got a text a
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  Speaker 1: week before the next day. The next day, the next day,
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  Speaker 1: the next day, the day before, super excited. The day
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  Speaker 1: she came in, we watched it together. She was so
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  Speaker 1: excited all she could do was sit straight back on
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  Speaker 1: the edge of her seat talking about what she expected.
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  Speaker 1: Was was reathless and trying to explain how excited she is,
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  Speaker 1: sending me all these random I don't know where text
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  Speaker 1: about what she just read about the series, like when
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  Speaker 1: I tell you it's a missed opportunity that Annie did
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  Speaker 1: not get some kind of sponsorship, Hill is a missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe they did it on purpose because they know
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  Speaker 1: you love it so much you'll do it anyway. Probably
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  Speaker 1: they got me begged. Oh yeah, it was. I was.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I could have floated away. It looked
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: like you were about to just watching you literally space out,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew I was floating through your head. I
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  Speaker 1: knew what was happening, but you kind of looked like
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  Speaker 1: your head would kind of float, and then your body
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  Speaker 1: was floating on the edge of the seat like you
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: were pushing forward and nothing was happening. It was like
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: five hours before the show was happening. He was just
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: sitting well because the reviews had come in and a
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: lot of you listen. It was actually contacted me about
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: it and thank you and send the articles about it.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Because video games are have a great history of being adapted,
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: like they're kind of notoriously not good, and they're adapted
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  Speaker 1: to TV or movies. And this is so close to
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  Speaker 1: my heart that when like the reviews started coming in,
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  Speaker 1: they were so good. It's like it was unleashed something
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  Speaker 1: in me that I've been trying to keep tame, where
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know that I can be
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  Speaker 1: excited about this because they're usually bad. Then what will
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  Speaker 1: I do? Because I've talked about how much I love
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  Speaker 1: it and how good it is, and then that happened,
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: and then everyone else was getting excited, and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: I think a week before something unleashed. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: The week before is when all of the messages started coming.
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  Speaker 1: We would have every now and then talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: and then the reviews are coming in and all of
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  Speaker 1: them were just glowing, and you were having every minute.
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  Speaker 1: We saw some trailers and the trailers were so on
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  Speaker 1: point with the game. You were freaking out and I
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  Speaker 1: loved it. And I want to say this even though
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: it is all joking. From my end, it is contagious. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and he was so excited it makes other people really excited,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is one of those things when I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had a hobby here or excited about something,
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  Speaker 1: because that's an incredible feeling. Like I love seeing you
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  Speaker 1: do this, and it is it's a joy to be around,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: even though the actual story is quite traumatic, and I think,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really glad I know what's going to happen. I'm
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: really glad I know the whole story because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I could handle this show if I wasn't already prepared. Um,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: all of that to say is like, yeah, I know
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  Speaker 1: you're super excited, and I know you sometimes get embarrassed
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: because you get so super excited, but you shouldn't because
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  Speaker 1: I think it's such an amazing thing that you love
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  Speaker 1: something in that depth of feeling that you feel such
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  Speaker 1: a personal connection is beautiful when something is created like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's what the writers and creators want,
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: is too for you to feel that depth. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: if it controls your life, that's a whole different conversation. Right,
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  Speaker 1: what you are doing and what I see you doing
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  Speaker 1: is exciting and it's contagious, and that's why you got
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: probably a hundred and fifty thousand messages. Yeah, I'm really
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  Speaker 1: glad to hear you say that, because I I do
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  Speaker 1: get self conscious about it. Um. And I actually one
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: of the friends who hung out with us, Marissa, who's
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: been on the show and who was a great friend
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  Speaker 1: of ours and listens and thank you. We appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: The next day I text her. I was like, I'm
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: so sorry because she was sitting next to me. I
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm so sorry. I was trying to control
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  Speaker 1: my excitement, but I know it was like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I was getting so like because I kept like grabbing
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: her arm. Big is that? And she was like, are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding? Like let it fly? I think you found
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: the best person to do that with. She was on
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  Speaker 1: that level too, Yeah, Like she's not on that level
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  Speaker 1: of excitement of the show, but on that level of
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  Speaker 1: connecting with you, connecting with the show. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this too, because I am somebody
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  Speaker 1: who I love watching TV shows with friends. I love
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  Speaker 1: sharing entertainment with friends, and that's like my love language. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I have sort of built myself into a trap
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  Speaker 1: with this one, because everyone knows I love The Last
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  Speaker 1: of Us and so everyone and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: go Crime River. You have friends, I know. But everyone
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: was like, why did you not watch it with me?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't we watch it again? I want to be
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: the first time you see it. And I'm like, I
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: cannot have fifty people in the viewing party for the
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  Speaker 1: last I'm so sorry because I actually like, I like
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  Speaker 1: a small group. This is the thing that's really important
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  Speaker 1: to me. I want everybody to watch it. I'll watch
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  Speaker 1: it with you again. I'll be there, but I can't
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: be everywhere at once. This is where I get the brag.
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  Speaker 1: I have to be there. Yeah, well you did. You
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: were very kind and supported me and my love of it,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: and you did watch Because the game is like fifteen
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: hours long the first and I will say to think, um,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I've forgotten quite a bit of it because part of
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  Speaker 1: the game was so long. I just fell asleep in
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: the middle of some of it. Well, you're in for
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: a good time, and I do. So we're like, we
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: said we're probably gonna do a couple of these. Um,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and if you're listening to this and you're like, this
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel very feminist. I promise I have I have
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: thoughts about things that relate to feminism. Um. We've also
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: done several episodes in the past about the Last of Us,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the Last of Us to Revival Horror, and in fact,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: old host of the show Christin Caroline. They knew I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: was a gamer, and they asked me once like, who
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: is a character in video games? Who was a woman?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Our girl? Um, who you think is like really innovative
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: of or connected with a lot of people. I said, Ellie.
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  Speaker 1: It's Ellie and that the game came out in and
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: she felt very new then. Um, and uh oh sen
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  Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, I didn't. I don't think I knew that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it came out, Yes, and if you noticed in the show,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I promise I'm going to try not to do this
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  Speaker 1: so much. But in the show they they said it
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  Speaker 1: the kind of like setting of the scene when all
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  Speaker 1: the sad stuff in the beginning happens, when the outbreak happens,
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  Speaker 1: it's in twenty it's in two thousand three, And I
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: think that's so that the show is set like currently
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in our modern year. But they did shift the date
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: because in the original game, the outbreak day is so
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they pushed it back by ten years. These are all
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the facts I was trying to hold in while we
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: were watching it. No, but this is what you need
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  Speaker 1: to share. So you need I don't know why you
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: just said I won't do too many of these. You
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  Speaker 1: need to do more of these because this is what
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you do. What are you talking about? Come on, so
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: let's get into this so you know if you don't
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  Speaker 1: for however, you've avoided it and you don't know. The
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Last Us is a PlayStation game that came out. It
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: is one of the most highly rewarded games of all time.
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  Speaker 1: It is pretty much like a movie. And when it
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: came out it was a lot of the most popular
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: games were open world games. Um so those are games
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: where you can do whatever you want. You can go
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: explore and you can make choices with your character that
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: affect the ending or affect what happens. The Last of
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  Speaker 1: Us is very much like a movie. You do make
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  Speaker 1: choices as a character, but they're not going to change
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  Speaker 1: the story as a whole. It's not going to change
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  Speaker 1: the ending. And that was one of the biggest critiques
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  Speaker 1: of it. Like most people, I loved it. It was
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: highly praised that most people who tell me they didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it is because it's like a movie and they
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: can't change the ending even though they want to. But
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it was really interesting reading that um and I swear
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't normally do this. I bet it sounds so unbelievable,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: but I actually don't normally read a bunch of like
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: interviews and stuff because it makes me nervous. But the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: interviews of how they adapted this and the process of
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: how they did it, we're fascinating because the creator said, like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the reason I did that was Joel wouldn't do that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Joel wouldn't that's like not his story, and he used
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the character and this is how it plays out, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a lot of refuse have said. That's
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like the definition of the tragedy is you can't stop it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It's like you see it unfolding and it's too bad.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But it is so much like a movie already that
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: when I was watching it last night, I watched it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: like six times already. I watched it this morning. It's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: it's already there like in the game. So much of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it is, Oh, this is exactly like the game. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I never want anything to be beholden to do something
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like that because they are different mediums um the game
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and the movie, and in fact, the creators stepped away
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: from the movie the show because it is different when
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a person can control the camera and the viewpoint versus
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like you the director picking the shot. But it was like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: are all there like the imagery. I was like, there's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the burning house and there's the guitar. You know, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: saw the guitar. Oh my gosh, so that's a significance.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Might not know it yet, Yes, it is the guitar. Well,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: they already introduced stuff from the second one, which you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: who knows if they'll ever make the sequel. But there
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: was the there's the guitar. There's a bunch of little
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: things they did. I was like, okay, okay, but it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the basis. Yeah, it's basically like um as be outbreak.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's very frightening, like the setting setting up scene they
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: hand with the two scientists and the sixties who were like, actually,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: we should really be afraid of this phone goal thing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: What if the temperature goes up and then they can
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: take us over who gave Mitchell? And there's already all
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: these theories I love, like you have sent me some
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: your partner sent me sub about like where did it start?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: How did it come from? And super exciting but basically
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: zombie outbreak not good billions of people. Um. And the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: opening scene is where you meet Joel and his daughter
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Sarah and it's his birthday and everything everything goes so
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: so wrong. And as you texted me and some of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: these random text we'd exchange with each other. Nico Parker,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: who plays Sarah, Um, it looks exactly like they Newton
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: her mom and she was definitely like the breakout, like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: so many people are praising her and they should have been.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: She did an amazing job. Uh And and that I loved.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: One of the things that is tricky about adapting a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: video game is a lot of times there's a pressure
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to do the shots. Like Doom is sort of an
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: infamous example where all of a sudden there's like a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: first person shooter shot that doesn't work the whole thing,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: but that part where Tommy and Joel and Sarah driving
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: away and you're seeing all these signs of like the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: world is ending, these planes are crashing, this house is
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: on fire. Their zombies that shot the way it is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in the game where it's sort of like you're looking
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: out the windshield, and I just thought it was so effective.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It looked so cool, but it was also kind of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you you could never tell what would be around the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: corner with that shot. Oh I loved it. Oh my gosh,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I'm being so excited. I did already like plot out
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: where I think every episode is going to go, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: every episode has a tragedy in it, so you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not. It's a very sad tale
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about this more at the end,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm very interested and excited to see how people
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: feel about the ending of it. So there are a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: couple of things I wanted to bring out. One of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: them is okay. First of all, the clickers, who you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: only hear at the end. The clickers are very creepy zombies. Everybody, Um,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. But they're voiced by the same actors
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they used the game. Yeah, and I heard a couple
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of them. Actually, may a couple of the clickers maybe them,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Like yes, yes, I think so. I think so. For
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: anyone who's listening and you're like, what are you talking about?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait for you. Um. But the character Marlene,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: who is coming up on Fictional Women Around the World.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite characters and is played by
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the original voice actor Merle Dandridge. Amazing looks just like her,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: so good. Um. She she's the Leader of the Fireflies.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of times during the show where
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder what it's like if you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: go into this and you have no idea what they're
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: talking about. But the Fireflies are kind of like fighting
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: against the government entities that run the quarantine zones and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they're trying to find some way to get back to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the world. That it was some way to get back
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to democracy, all of those things. So like when in
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the Darkness militia out started militia Yes, Um, so the
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: yeah they're saying is look for the light. And throughout
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that episode you see instances of skirmishes with the military
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: entity which is FEDRA and FEDRAC controls like the quarantine zones.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: They control your education. Uh, they control your food, they
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: control your jobs, that whole thing. So she used the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Leader of the Fireflies in Boston and uh, this is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: something I've found really interesting and late media and or
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was a good example as well the New Star Wars show.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: She's the leader of this thing, and it's clear she
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: has a lot of really tough decisions. So at one
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: point she says rebellions take time. At another point she
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: says Tommy is just one man, implying like we have
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice him or we have to put our you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: resources where we can um And then at the end
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of the episode, she makes this deal with Joel, who
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they don't have a good relationship. Joel is kind of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a smuggler, traumatize about what happened in the beginning to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: his daughter, just like a real shut off individual. Uh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and tests who we'll be talking about a second, to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: transport Ellie, Uh, this young fourteen year old girl across
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the country. And that moment was so tough when you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: know how it ends, because she's like, please, don't get up,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm trusting you, and you're like, all right, everybody's going
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: to little angels pull back an pullet so far ahead.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: But it was just like every time, I'm like, oh,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: what a yeah. But I don't know, I think we
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: should come back and talk about that because I feel
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like we've seen a lot of instances of these women
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: characters who are the leaders. I think you could even
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: make the argument Leia in some ways but are like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: making these really tough decisions. And then a lot of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the like men in their life are kind of like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: getting angry with them or judging them, are like you're
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: being cold or whatever it is, which is not like
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it's this whole story. I'm just going to tell you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: because the reviews kept cracking me up. This whole story
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: is complicated. There's no like one instance where you're like, oh,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that was the complete right choice. There's just isn't. It's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like a lot of it's complicated and nuanced and not pretty.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not happy, right, So maybe we should
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: go ahead and tell you and then think we talked
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: about this before. You talked about about this before Deathly,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about the actual game. This game makes you, uh,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: choose lesser evils, and in that, many people hated this
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: game because of that. What most people want is a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: hero and a villain, and this does not really have that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You do have villains, but you don't really have heroes.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's not really a thing, I don't don't think. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know the conversation of anti heroes, and we've talked
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: about that before. Um, really does apply for the show.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, we're anticipating some changes and what people are
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: going to do with characters and what people are gonna
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: do just because they love the actors who are portraying
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: these characters. So that's that's a bias in itself. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be interesting to see, especially people's reaction,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: because a good show draws you in with that character,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and then those biases can make or break how you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: feel about the show. Uh, And I think that's interesting
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to know. So for sure, the Last of Us is
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: one of those and in the game because it's a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: little different as a person has never played it versus
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the person who has, because you are actually in their shoes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You are making these decisions instead of watching someone else
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: make a decision and feeling removed from it. Yeah, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things I'm very curious about, especially
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: if they do the second one, because it does force
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you to even if you don't want to connect with
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: this person that you're controlling. And and that's one of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the beauty I think of video games. A good video
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: game is you just get pulled in and you're like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't like Maybe your mind will change or whatever,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and you'll you'll feel something for them even if they're bad,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and even if you don't agree with them, like and
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: yeah again like good and batter so like simplistic terms
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and in this conversation. And that was something that I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: kept coming across in reviews because most interviews I read
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: they've never played the game, which I loved. I loved
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: how they described it as like being repeatedly punched in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the heart. I'm like, yeah, but they would say, like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you know, one, is this what's happening? And that we
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: didn't know these kind of stories were being told in
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: video games, and yes they are, um, but to like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: there's no easy answers um and they were curious how
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: audiences were going to react to that. And I am
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: also curious. I do want to mention test real quickly
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: because tests in the game, she's like the partner of Joel.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like they gave her more of a leadership
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: role in the show than she has in the game,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: or at least from what you see, because she says
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: like he answers to me about Joel, So I'm curious.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm curious about that. But she's also pretty hardened, like
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: seeing some the rational one. This is the thing about
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the game, and I was going to come back to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: both she and Marlene are the rational ones. They have
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to pick and choose. So they set aside what they
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: want or what they're afraid of, or if they're angry
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: or not, and then go to this is the most
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: feasible way to do this without people getting hurt. Let's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: do it this way. Just talk to me. I got
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you because spoiler. And again at the very beginning, we
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: see all the people who have dealt with Joe at
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this time and point know that he's a violent, angry
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: man who has outbursts, and so you have her controlling that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And then Marlene is controlling all of the fireflies, um
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and even Ellie when we meet Ellie, because Ellie is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: ready to like punch people in a leave um at
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: this point, stab people. We saw that. So it's very
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: different in that route that these two leaders women leaders
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: are the ones that's like, put your emotions aside. We
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: have to do what is best for today, for our people,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: for us right, which I find fascinating because I think
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: they're judged more harshly. And this actually brings us to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: my next point. And I'm gonna try not to like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: spoil it too much. What I have, like talked about
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: this before in the show, because I've, in my opinion,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the ending of the first game, the way it's shot,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the character you're playing at that moment, because you don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: play Joel the whole time, UM to me suggest that
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: we need to question the morality or what what just happened?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think the ending is meant to be read
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: as a good thing. That was never the suggestion I got.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That was not how I felt like they were communicating
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it with how they how they shot it and how
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it ends. But what happens when fandom We've talked about
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: this before a lot with Star Wars, We've talked about
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: this a lot. What happens when fandom doesn't read it
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the way I personally think it was intended. And you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: can get into really murky grounds with that, because you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: we all bring our own experiences and interpretations to art.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: We all do. But I feel like it says a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: lot about how people interacted with that ending, and I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: think that's I'm really, really, really curious, um, how it's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: going to play out in the show. I have my opinion,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and I told you what it is, and we're going
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to check back in at the end and see if
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I was right. Um, but like what happens when when
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you present something in this one way and like your
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: message was this isn't a good thing, and people take
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: away no, it was. What does that mean? And I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: think that says a lot about our society and it
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: does go back to how we judge I think how
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: we judgement and women, and like even going back to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the whole conversation we had about toxic masculinity and the Mandalorian, which,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: by the way, the new trailer came out today, which
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I know they did on purpose, but like being praised
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: for being violent in protection of an innocent especially like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a young girl or a woman, as you know, like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this masculine thing that we should get behind, whereas in
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the second one that was enough the reaction at all
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: when it was women. So that's just something I'm sitting
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: on I'm thinking about. I'm very curious about how they're
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: going to do it, especially because they said they tried
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to make Joel nicer in the show as opposed to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the game. We'll see how that plays out. Um. You know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I also want to come back and I want to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: talk about sad murder, dad trope, um, but that whole yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: like justifying these men's reactions versus women's. Um. So he's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Joel's kind of Yeah. This more like combative emotional one
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: where Marlene and Tests are trying to keep things running. Also,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I want to come back and talk about this whole
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Daddy's a state of mind thing, which Paedro Pascal who
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: did an amazing job, so did Bella Ramsey. I think
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I like already know the answer, but we need to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: revisit like this, this attraction women have for that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I also think that there's something happening here which I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: kind of jokingly called the Han Solo syndrome, which is
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: when a character is supposed to be like I don't know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like we're not supposed to think this guy is like
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the best guy, but then everybody loves that guy and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, and then let me go rewrite the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: story of how Gredo shot first a million times, so
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: he's like a better guy. Um. This I don't know
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: if they're going to do that or not, but when
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I read that they were making him nicer, I was
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like, huh, Okay, we'll see I don't know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: because the first episode I was like nicer said that,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: like the reactions he had were more violent than it
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was even in the game. Yeah, I mean some of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that is like I'm not a super violent player and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: some people are. And that's another issue, is because I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was thinking about this where the ending I do believe
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was meant to be. I've been very least ambiguous, but
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you're still kind of playing this violent character who you
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: are connecting to because you're playing him. But for me,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of like super violent player, but
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: some people are, and so I don't know. Maybe the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: nicer part is just like for a certain type of
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: play We'll see. But yeah, I think like it's such
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a well written story. There are certainly problematic aspects of it,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: but it's such a like a well written story, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: so many of the reviews I kept seeing, we're like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you know, this is like a story about humanity and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: connection and at the time where it's the survival is
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: like your whole thing and how does that look and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: how can we as humans survive in this um? And
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: so there are happy moments. I know, I've been painting
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a very bleak, very bleak thing. Right now. Zombie Apocalypse. Yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you know, got a good bleak. I know why you're
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: trying to add like there's definitely gonna be a party
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: in here. There's not, no, But there are some like
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: brief shining moments of joy. There are I'm looking forward to.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: They're They're expanding on some stories, especially queer stories, that
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see in the show. Um. But yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the characters are so well written
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and that you know that the fears I read in
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the reviews I don't think are unfounded because it is
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: not a fun show. It's not an easy ending, but
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's like a sign of like a well
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: written story and characters. And I mean I also like
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a very like straightforward, I don't have to cry and
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: everything episode. But like you know what I mean, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: think they did it very well. I'm very very excited.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It looked beautiful, it was beautifully acted, beautifually written, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it felt like a it was it was like the game,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but in a way that didn't feel like they were
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: doing too much fan surface if that makes sense, right. Yeah, So, um,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it definitely sets up
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: really well. Um, they did a great job in beginning it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of differences. We know that the spread
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of the virus is different in the game than is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in the that is in the show, and some people
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: have already picked that apart. As a bystander, I'm like, why,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it's a disease, It's gonna happen, calm down. Um. But
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: on the other note, there was some theories about Flower. Yes,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: so if you're watching, look for the details about how
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and who gets infected and like what's being denied, and um,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I found that interesting as well. But and they found like,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: when we first we're talking about the series happening, you're
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so cautious. Yeah, and stayed very cynical to that. You're
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: like bad adaptation, adaptations have happened. There's a lot of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: controversies around this game. I'm not gonna get excited. I'm
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: not gonna get excited. She did get excited. We're just
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: gonna put that in. Um. But we were guessing about
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: who's going to play these characters, and we even like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: did a whole setup of like who should play these characters. Um,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Pedro Pascal was not on my list.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Bella Ramsey was not on my list, But then when
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you come back and you're like, oh, wow, they did
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  Speaker 1: an amazing job. Both of them have done a great
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: job in portraying this character, even the brother who plays Tommy.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: They don't look anything alike, but they sound and act exactly.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I know this is acting, but you also know when
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you have a picture in their mind and it doesn't fit,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it's kind of shatters, shatters the dream and in the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: fantasy of it. But it didn't. They did such a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: good job. Even with the daughter Nico Parker. She is
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  Speaker 1: an English actress, or I think she's English. I know her.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: There's English, so I'm trying to imagine that that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: Can't comes in and like she is not what we
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: saw in the game. But she did phenomenal and it
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: didn't shatter that fantasy at all. She was Pedro Pascal's
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  Speaker 1: daughter Sarah, who had suffered this tragedy. And I love
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the fact that the difference in this game they did
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a more and in the game they do see it
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: from her start point of view, but they lengthened her
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: story even bigger. It was gorgeous to see like it
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: was gorgeous, but it was still on point with the game,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: so it didn't shatter anybody who had played the game
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: from their idea of what this should be. So I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: think that was a brilliant beginning. Yeah, in that note. Yeah,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and they did really well with her because you learn
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: more about Sarah very very slowly. That you do learn
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: more about Sarah through the game, and she was very
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: smart and she loved museums and all that stuff. So
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: they put like all of those little cues of her
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: shirt was on point. The shirt was on point. Yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that was one of the first things. I was like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: those are in the game. She's wearing the shark, so
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: they to replicate that did a phenomenal job. She was
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: just getting excited. I know we've been going to going
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: too well. That was like I'll close on this note,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: like I I hope that it continues to be this way. Uh.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: But I one of the reasons I was worried was
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: because we know game the gaming world is full of toxicity.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Uh and the last of us too. It was shocking,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: um how much toxicity. The first one I've made the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: point before, and I think is I would argue is true,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: is because you're playing a male character who's protecting a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: young girl that didn't come out as much UM, but
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: like Bella Ramsay has talked about getting like all these
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: haters after after they were cast UM and so far,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I was expecting review bombing even though the first one
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is still well liked. So far that hasn't happened. But
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like still a little a little nervous, especially I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: think episode three and some of you know what I'm
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: talking about. I think that's where we might see some things,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: um in terms of like review bombing. But I just
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I've been happy that that hasn't happened yet, but I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: hate that that's like even a thing where I was like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm afraid to get excited about this thing that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I love because of these bad actors in this space.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Right And yeah, again we talked about that level and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you're not the only one, but the different content creators
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: not even involved in the game who said they liked
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: this game got hated on. Like it wasn't like incredible
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the level of vitriol that came out of a character
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: or a change in character, changing perspective. Naughty Dog knew
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: what they are doing, kind of trolling those who already
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: would like trying to hate this game. They sure did.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Shar did well. Oh my gosh, I am so excited
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: now I kind of wait for the next one. Um,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I will be doing more of these. Hopefully you enjoy it,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: whether you watch it or not, because I know some
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: of you have written instead. I've never played the game,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: but I love talking about it and that makes me
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: really happy. So yes, look for more of these. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: promise one. We are not currently sponsored by the yet. Yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, because I think in
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the next one I'm gonna have a lot more to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: say about Ellie because we didn't get too much of
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Ellie in this one. No, we get a slight introduction
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: or attitude. Are not skilled and infected but not infected
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: m although there is a big theory about that that's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: for a late date. Well, thank you, thank you, thank
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you so much, Samantha. This was your idea and you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: didn't really have to just my our OK. I'm into it,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: uh and listeners, I would love to hear what you think. UM,
• 42:09
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• 42:12
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• 42:14
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• 42:16
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• 42:19
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• 42:25
  Speaker 1: told you, and thanks as always to our stuper producer Christina.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Sorry for the spoilers, Christina, We love you, yes, but
• 42:33
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• 42:37
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