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3 Guys Before The Game - UCF Game Preview (Episode 666) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: We are back.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in everyone. It's time for three Guys before the game.
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  Speaker 2: This is episode number six hundred and sixty six.
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  Speaker 1: to mention. I don't want to draw any more attention
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  Speaker 1: to it. To what six sixty six?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it is six hundred and sixty six. I guess
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  Speaker 2: that would be six sixty six. That's a big startover, startover?
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  Speaker 2: Is that a big deal?
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  Speaker 3: We've probably screwed the numbering system up somewhere. This might
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  Speaker 3: be like seven thirteen, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, so be it sort of like tackles.
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  Speaker 1: There is veriackles a guy had like, yeah, thirteen, Tackles
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  Speaker 1: really had nine.
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  Speaker 2: There's a very good probability that over the last eight
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  Speaker 2: years at some point we've miscounted. So this probably actually
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  Speaker 2: isn't six hundred and sixty six, just to make it fifth.
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  Speaker 2: If you're stressing out about that, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: It probably isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Real quick point of clarification because West Virginia hasn't played
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  Speaker 3: since the Bowl game last year. So this that we're
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  Speaker 3: doing over unders today, preseason over unders we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a reminder, this is the twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 2: But it does seem We came in the studio they
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  Speaker 2: we said, like, why does it seem like it's been
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  Speaker 2: two and a half years since West Virginia last played
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  Speaker 2: a game? I think it was probably because it was
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  Speaker 2: a Friday, Yeah, so you had that whole Saturday and
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  Speaker 2: then just like it felt like a long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, played three quarters away around the world. It's like
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  Speaker 3: two different stays.
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  Speaker 1: And because there's college football every day, there's been like
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty games have been played since you last.
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  Speaker 3: Which is kind of nice. Oh yeah, I do kind
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  Speaker 3: of like that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go back onto the road for the
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  Speaker 2: Mountaineers coming off of this off week. These guys oftentimes
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  Speaker 2: talk about situational advantages, and again you're just kind of
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  Speaker 2: poking around trying to the fact that the ucf ors
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  Speaker 2: are playing their fifth straight game. At least, it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to hurt you that you've had the bye week, right, No,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to help you hope.
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  Speaker 1: You hope, No, you hope.
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  Speaker 3: Well, on paper it should help. That is a situational event.
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  Speaker 3: You would prefer it to be at home because generally
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  Speaker 3: you don't get situational advantages on the road. But I
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  Speaker 3: do agree, Tony, you're off a bye they are not.
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  Speaker 3: They've played five games in a Rosie mentioned they've lost
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  Speaker 3: three in a row. So this will be about as
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  Speaker 3: good a spot as you can get. If you're West Virginia,
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  Speaker 3: go take your swing. See if it helps you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: why are you grimacing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not no, I just well, why do you have
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  Speaker 1: a tie on? I had to do something this morning? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I had another assignment this morning.
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  Speaker 2: You're the busiest retired guy I've ever seen in the
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  Speaker 2: win they brad facts. Yeah, you're on seven different boards.
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  Speaker 2: Now I think you're the mayor at a couple of
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  Speaker 2: different West Virginia cities. I mean, that's quite amazing.
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  Speaker 1: This is a highlight of my day though.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. It's the same, same with us, same
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  Speaker 2: with us. Okay, time now, ladies and gentlemen for the
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  Speaker 2: unsponsorable hoppies. Obvious observations. Obviously, what do you have?
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  Speaker 1: This is the doppel Ganger Bowl? You know, look alike? Right?
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  Speaker 1: One team has a coach in his first year who
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  Speaker 1: previously coached there. The other team has a first year
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  Speaker 1: head coach, Brad who previously coached there are neither team
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  Speaker 1: has a conference win. There have been in between these
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  Speaker 1: two teams. There have been like nine quarterbacks that have
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  Speaker 1: been played that have played. You don't know which quarterback
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  Speaker 1: is starting for either team or which quarterbacks are gonna play?
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  Speaker 1: Should I go on each team? If you listen to
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  Speaker 1: coaches press conference, they talk about boy, we just are
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  Speaker 1: making mistakes too many mistakes, can't make plays. So there
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  Speaker 1: are in Brad. I know you'll get into specifics to
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  Speaker 1: point out there are distinct differences, but there are similarities situationally.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me go into the situation. I like this
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  Speaker 1: situation a lot Tony. As you pointed out. Week off,
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  Speaker 1: they've played five games in a row, coming off a
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  Speaker 1: lost to Cincinnati where they did not score a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: till the last two minutes of the game. So even
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  Speaker 1: though they you know, move the ball up and down
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  Speaker 1: the field, they didn't score a touchdown till late. I
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  Speaker 1: don't mind the road trip because it's you know, Central Florida.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, UCF, it's Orlando, and it's not that big
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  Speaker 1: of a trip. West Virginia fans are gonna be there,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes it's good to get away from home. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's just good, you know, and focused entirely on the game.
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  Speaker 2: Last time West Virginia was there, Good West Virginia's two
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Good West Virginia contingent of crowds, there's no
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  Speaker 2: question about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I think situational and I know you're seven seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half dog there, but I but I like
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  Speaker 1: the situation a lot. I've built myself in the two
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  Speaker 1: weeks into a into a childlike optimism for this game.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, Rich Rodriguez said something interesting in his
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  Speaker 1: Prescott's right at the end. He said, this is a
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  Speaker 1: chance for a fresh start. Now one of two things.
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  Speaker 1: Either the team is like okay, whether they're not bought in,
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  Speaker 1: or it is in fact a fresh start, Henry Ford
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  Speaker 1: said the car guy. Car Guy said, failure is the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to begin again more intelligently. Now, think about that,
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  Speaker 1: because what do.
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  Speaker 3: You think pretty appropriate?
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  Speaker 2: Shout youpt that? How do you get that quote?
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  Speaker 1: Google? But Brad, think about what zach Ally said talking
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  Speaker 1: about just correcting mistakes, getting eyes in the right places, okay,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get eleven guys doing the right thing. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a chance, it is, in fact a chance to
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  Speaker 1: do better. So I think you can find a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reasons to be optimistic going into this game.
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  Speaker 2: I also think, if I may interject, of course, it's
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  Speaker 2: also a chance.
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  Speaker 1: To do less. Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Rodriguez during his talk show this week, and you
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  Speaker 2: also mentioned this during his press conference on Tuesday that
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  Speaker 2: I think defensively once again, they've been suffering through some
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  Speaker 2: paralysis by analysis. So dumb it down and let guys
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  Speaker 2: just have a simple script. Okay, this is what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Just keep doing that. A little bit of that as well,
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  Speaker 2: so you don't I mean, we had some we've had
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  Speaker 2: some big blown assignments, and so let's get guys at
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  Speaker 2: least in the right spot and then play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get be in the right spot. Do what your
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  Speaker 1: coach to do. Stop peaking in the if you're a
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  Speaker 1: defensive back, stop peaking in the backfield. And Zach howly
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  Speaker 1: talked about that. If you listen to Frost, Brad, you
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  Speaker 1: know they got to like seventy new players. They're making
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  Speaker 1: mistakes all over the place. They do. They got all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of issues, a lot of penalties, mispasses, guys in
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  Speaker 1: the wrong spot. They're dealing with some of the same
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  Speaker 1: issues like a first year head coach with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new players. Zach Alley's worried about you CF's team speed, Brad.
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  Speaker 1: I'll know you'll get into that. You see f's quarterback
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  Speaker 1: situation will get into that. Fansher played the last game,
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  Speaker 1: ran the ball twenty times twenty times in that game.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like he's Khalil Wilkins running the balls so
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  Speaker 1: much so they got you know, quarterback situations. They got
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  Speaker 1: a good running back, Miles Montgomery. Their defense is a
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  Speaker 1: concern for West Virginia, Brad. I know you'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: They ranked fifth in the league, giving up just eighteen
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  Speaker 1: points a game by comparison to West Virginia's giving up twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine points a game. So that would I guess that
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  Speaker 1: would be a good on bad They have a good
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  Speaker 1: defense of fast defense. West Virginia is struggling offensively, so
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  Speaker 1: that might be they're good on our bed so but
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  Speaker 1: still obvious observations, doppel ganger situation, but you can find
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  Speaker 1: some reasons for optimism. Did everything he say kind of
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  Speaker 1: could deal with what you're thinking?
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, I'm off to a bad start in this show.
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  Speaker 3: I should I should have known better. My opening statement
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  Speaker 3: was too obvious. He just took it. I should have
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  Speaker 3: known better. I should have known that's where we were
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  Speaker 3: going to go. I think you're exactly right that that
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  Speaker 3: is what jumps out to me. The similarities where these
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  Speaker 3: two programs are add in there. Guys, both are in
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  Speaker 3: bad need of a win, badly need a win. Right,
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  Speaker 3: They're both. They also are known when these when these
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  Speaker 3: two programs under these coaches had it going, both known
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  Speaker 3: for fast tempo and just speed by the different players, right,
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  Speaker 3: that was part of this this group as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hop I'm with you. It's almost like that meme you
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  Speaker 3: see the two spider Mans pointing at each other with
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  Speaker 3: these two two programs where they are in their situations,
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  Speaker 3: and it's which one of these can can come out
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  Speaker 3: on top.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and think about this. This game is on
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  Speaker 1: no one's national radar, right, No one cares about this game,
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  Speaker 1: but it is hugely important to these two teams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're right, because both are looking down the
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  Speaker 3: schedule of this Big twelve and saying, all right, where
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  Speaker 3: where do the wins come from?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I think both these these squads are
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  Speaker 3: pointed to each other across the field and each should
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  Speaker 3: feel like this is their opportunity to get a win.
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  Speaker 3: The line did surprise me. I had in the summer,
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  Speaker 3: if all things were being equal, West Virginia, you might
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  Speaker 3: have gone in as a slight favorite in this one,
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  Speaker 3: one of the few they were going to be favored
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  Speaker 3: in all year to come in is more than a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Underdog was a little bit concerning, But I see where
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  Speaker 3: you got that way based on the numbers, But that
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  Speaker 3: was a little bit surprising when that opened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally in with you on the fact that this game,
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  Speaker 2: this game does not move the national radar meter at all. However,
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  Speaker 2: as we both know, both of these programs are in
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  Speaker 2: similar situations of trying to become resurgent from where they
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  Speaker 2: were to where they.
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  Speaker 1: Want to go, and both have had success.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so while this won't move it nationally internally, both
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  Speaker 2: of these programs are going to really get a good
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  Speaker 2: definition as to where they are. Right The team that
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  Speaker 2: wins kind of comes away and says, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we're on the uptick. The team that loses it looks
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  Speaker 2: at it and goes like, man, we got a ton
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  Speaker 2: that we still have to get done here. And so
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  Speaker 2: it's very very very interesting, very intriguing game to.
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  Speaker 3: Me, both searching for offensive identities, what is it that
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  Speaker 3: they can do well? And I think that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the intriguing parts if you're looking for something for this
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  Speaker 3: back half of the season for West Virginia, I think
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  Speaker 3: now it's certainly about still trying to win games, but
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  Speaker 3: it's also about finding out who's going to be around
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  Speaker 3: next year, who performs well enough for this coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: to go you know what, you know, who showed a
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  Speaker 3: little bit there, not just in an effort, but some
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  Speaker 3: skill wise. And I think that starts for West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: guys at the quarterback position. Absolutely, you're going to see Wilkins,
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  Speaker 3: You're going to see Fox. What do those guys look
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  Speaker 3: like over the final six games as they get more
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  Speaker 3: reps both in practice and in game situation. So that
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  Speaker 3: goes for the whole team, but in particular, I think
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  Speaker 3: we're watching the quarterbacks pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Closely too, and both of those guys. Right, it's back
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  Speaker 2: to back road games, so that never hurts you as well.
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  Speaker 2: But let's face it, just stadium size wise, it will
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  Speaker 2: not be as inside the Bounce House as it was
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  Speaker 2: at BYU, which again my early my recency bias, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was that was off the chart, good electricity, electricity,
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  Speaker 2: So you should be more comfortable if you're Scottie Fox
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  Speaker 2: or if you're Khalil Wilkins. At this point, you've had
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  Speaker 2: two weeks literally to watch that tape to make yourself better.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, That's also another big thing that makes
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  Speaker 2: it intriguing. How much better can you get after watching
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  Speaker 2: yourself perform and it's there. I mean, I think those
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  Speaker 2: guys all have the ability to, you know, make plays
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  Speaker 2: and to move this offense. But at this point, this
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  Speaker 2: offense just has not moved. When it happens, I think
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  Speaker 2: we're all going to take a collective deep breath and go, Okay, finally,
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  Speaker 2: right what we're known for as rich as a rich
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  Speaker 2: Rodriguez office. You haven't seen it yet. I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: shown these like tea in six games. There have been
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  Speaker 2: these very small little flashes of what it will look
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  Speaker 2: like once it gets going. To me, this offense has
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  Speaker 2: kind of been like a car and you're in neutral
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  Speaker 2: and you keep hitting the gas and the engine revs
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  Speaker 2: up and you go like, but when's it gonna move?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You see it, You understand the concept of it, but
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  Speaker 2: until it goes started like a rhythm of boom boom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and they quick out ball six yards, guy
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  Speaker 2: runs for four yards, move the chains another first time.
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  Speaker 2: That's when this thing goes And it hasn't happened yet.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been hard to get that continuity because as
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  Speaker 3: the car's going down the road. All of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: the driver, the quarterback, jumps out and the car's rolling
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  Speaker 3: towards the cliff guys, So the next driver has to
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  Speaker 3: run and jump in and then quick jerking the wheel
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  Speaker 3: so it doesn't go off off the road. Right, So
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  Speaker 3: he's just trying to keep the thing on the road.
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  Speaker 3: He's on the wrong side of the road. Cars are
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  Speaker 3: coming out. You're just trying to avoid the crash. And
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  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden he jumps out and another
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  Speaker 3: guy has to jump in and navigate the next cliff and.
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  Speaker 2: Never get that gets in the cars. After a while,
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  Speaker 2: he goes, I'm not driving anymore. I'm not driving anymore.
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  Speaker 2: There goes Nico, I'm not driving anymore. There goes Jalen Henderson,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not driving anymore. There goes Jehem White, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: driving anymore. That goes Jade and Bray. Right, you just
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  Speaker 2: build this list. This list is I mean, you know
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have injuries in football, it's just not
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  Speaker 2: a matter of if, it's just when.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other one is.
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  Speaker 2: Who, Okay, if you would take and I say to you, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what's the worst case scenario? Back in August. What's the
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  Speaker 2: worst case scenario as far as injuries. So I'd go
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  Speaker 2: like Nico Markile, Jalen Henderson, Jame White and Jade and Bray.
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  Speaker 2: I'd go like, you can't lose those guys. You just
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  Speaker 2: can't lose those guys. And yet that has.
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  Speaker 3: Happened, and add Ti Edwards into that. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think I'll say it anymore because for how many
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  Speaker 3: weeks now have I been going, well, hope ty Edwards
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  Speaker 3: is healthy this week looks so good against good against Pitt.
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  Speaker 3: Hope to have him back this week. You learn he's
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  Speaker 3: down seeing a specialist in Alabama. So that doesn't sound
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  Speaker 3: good in the short term nor the long term. So
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  Speaker 3: you've got to move on that. And again, guys, I
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  Speaker 3: think we've moved right past remember night and the transfer
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  Speaker 3: from SMU at running back was supposed to be in
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  Speaker 3: there to split carries with jam Hite. He never even
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  Speaker 3: saw the field. I feel like that's a that's a
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  Speaker 3: bigger story than what we've made it because you never
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  Speaker 3: saw him and White started off okay, so you just
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  Speaker 3: kind of moved past him. But you're down to running
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  Speaker 3: back number four as well, four and running back for
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  Speaker 3: on a team that was trying to find its way
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  Speaker 3: with QB one and running back one. Yeah, no, wonder
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  Speaker 3: it looks so disjointed right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you're going into this game and Tyler Jacklitch
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  Speaker 2: is really your number four running back at this point.
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  Speaker 2: He came to the he joined the team in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of August practices, and he's and he is the
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  Speaker 2: big back now, like when they need a big back
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  Speaker 2: situation on Saturday, he'll be the guy that they run
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  Speaker 2: in there. That's that's how tenuous this has become.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's wild. So I don't think that's a surprise.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I think you're you're just looking now at
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  Speaker 3: this point there's one at least for our perspective. I
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  Speaker 3: get that Rich and the coaching staff isn't thinking this
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  Speaker 3: way at all. Hoppy, They're trying to win on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that. But for the rest of us, as
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: you're trying to look for next season to get a
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: head start, or just from a roster management standpoint, what's
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: this thing going to look like? Are you back to
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: eighty two new guys again next year? Can you get
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  Speaker 3: the number down to sixty? Are you at fifty. Where
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  Speaker 3: exactly are you? I think becomes just a critical point
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  Speaker 3: or quot question as we move through the final six games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned quarterback. You got to figure that
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: this is almost like spring practice in some respects. You think, Okay,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: we're not going to which one of these guys will stay?
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  Speaker 1: And do we want to stay for next year? You
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but go down the position groups. I think that's
• 15:20
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• 15:27
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• 15:29
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  Speaker 1: Here But at the same time, because I'm still trying
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• 16:01
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  Speaker 2: We should do. This is life I'm saying we should
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  Speaker 3: of keys to the game that includes some stats. Then
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  Speaker 3: we'll just go to some random numbers throughout that might
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  Speaker 3: mean something. Church Volly you open for that.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a big key, big key. This could have fallen
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  Speaker 3: under your obvious observation, though, hop all right, west Virginia's
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: rush offense against UCF's rush defense. If you look at
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's numbers there some of these raw counting stats
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  Speaker 3: aren't look okay, put.
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  Speaker 1: It that way.
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  Speaker 3: Almost five yards per carry good, you'll take it right right.
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  Speaker 3: Suggest the rushing game is pretty efficient when you get
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  Speaker 3: it going. My worry is a lot of those have
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: come late when a game's decided. But let's just leave
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that to a side the side for a second. UCF's
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: defense has to show it can it can stop the run,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: and I think this is a when you talk about
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: if you just look at West Virginia's offense versus UCF's
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: defensive numbers, it's a big advantage number wise on paper
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: to UCF's defense. But if you dive within that, it's
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: UCF's pass defense that's really driving their numbers. Their rush
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: defense is struggling one fourteenth nationally in EPA per rush.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: So can West Virginia finally get its running game on
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: track to a point, like you said, where it looks
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: like you think a Rich Rodriguez offense is supposed to
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: look so that's first and foremost. What you always watch
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: with West Virginia is can they have success running it?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: But going against a defense in Cincinnati that the numbers
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: say have struggled against the run, can that be a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: positive for West Virginia? Continue on what's West Virginia's defense
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: look like this week? It's getting what's been a pretty
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: balanced UCF offense that has some speed, right, no surprise there.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They'll put some guys and try and get those in space.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Those guys in space, Hobey. We've seen West Virginia really
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: struggle with explosive plays since it got into Big twelve play,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and that's a concern because that's kind of what UCF
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: has been doing. I'll get to some of these explosive
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: play numbers for them coming up here in a minute.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But I'm watching that first and foremost because you mentioned
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: did you mention or you mentioned it? Scott Frost talking
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: about the mistakes they've been making. Last week was a
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: great example. They kept the ball for two thirds of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the game against Cincinnata. They ran ninety offensive plays. They
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: did go up and down hop as you said, but
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: they couldn't finish drives. They're struggling in the finishing drives category.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Less than one third of their drives have ended in
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: touchdowns this year, and a lot of that's self inflicted.
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  Speaker 3: They're getting down in the scoring zone and then they
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: end up committing a penalty or two and it backs
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: them up. So it's one of those things. Hop we
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: say this all the time every year. Whichever team makes
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: more explosive plays is probably your winner. Both of these
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: offenses have had trouble sustaining and then scoring at the
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: end of drives. Wes Vidine has been efficient scoring, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: hasn't been able to sustain long drives. Who can hit
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: some big plays so you don't have to string together ten, twelve,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: fourteen play drives and what happens usually most teams when
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: they have to do that over and over, whatever mistake.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Penalty mistakes come in, especially to teams that are struggling.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So again, I'll get to some of the explosives from
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: a UCF perspective in a minute, but I'm watching that
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: is West Virginia's defense limits some of these explosives against
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a UCF team that has been pretty balanced so far
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: in the air then and again, these are cliche keys,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I get it, but I think they really matter in
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: this game. Third downs are going to be ultra important,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: and that goes back to can you sustain any drives.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: West Virginia is near the bottom of FBS one twenty
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: six out of one thirty six when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: third and fourth down success rate. It's going against the
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: UCF defense that on paper has been really good thirty
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: sixth nationally in that same category. So which one of
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: those plays off? Can West Virginia keep those sticks moving
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: which it has struggled to do in Big twelve play
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Flip over to the other side. UCF's offense is struggling
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: also on third down success going against a defense that's
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: sixty fifth nationally. That UCF offense is ninety fourth in
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: third down success. UCF's offense is one hundredth nationally in
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: third down distance to go seven and a half yards.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: So if West Virginia can keep that offense in third
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and long, you feel pretty good about that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You know what they do? Brat what did they do
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: last week though when they went third and well, what
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: did Fancher do took off?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now here's something else to look at. And we
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: say this every year we're halfway through the season, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: the numbers are still trying to mature. One of them
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: that jumps to you is the Sagarin Strength of Schedule rating.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So far, UCF's played the one hundred and tenth most
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: difficult schedule according to that metric. West Virginia fourteenth, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I say that a lot this time of year. Does
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: that start to show up for two teams that are
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: finding their way? Does West Virginia's benefit of playing a
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: difficult schedule so far, especially in Big twelve play, start
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: to work in its favor? On this we'll have to
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: see talk about explosive plays here for a second. UCF
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: is seventeenth nationally in plays of forty or more yards,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: fifth nationally in plays of sixty or more yards, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: only three teams have more plays of seventy yards or more?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: So can you And that's a small sample size, It's
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: not like they've had twenty of those, But can you
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: keep them from making those big plays? On you keep
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: that speed a little bit under control? Quarterback for them?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You guys mentioned this much like West Virginia, who starts
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: for them. Cam Fancher's raw stats were pretty good against Cincinnati,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: probably did enough, hopy to help them get the win.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: They just couldn't close the deal. Through for two hundred
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and twenty two yards, ran for another one hundred and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: eight ran for a touchdown to give UCF's rush quarterback
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: six rushing touchdowns this year. So regardless of who's in there,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: they're going to want to run the quarterback. Here's the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: thing with Fancer, though, Let's watch this. If it's him
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that gets the start through for two twenty two, which
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: yardage wise is a decent number, You'll take that all
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: day long, but only four point five yards per attempt,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: So he was not pushing the ball down the field.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: That was a lot of underneath stuff, trying to move
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: it down but not give up the big explosive, explosive
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: play and then making Fancier take off and run it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati bottled up Miles Montgomery, who I think is a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: really good running back, but UCF just did not have
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: success on the ground outside of Fancier and a lot
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: of that. If you listen to their folks, similar to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: what we talk about, their offensive line is still trying
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to find its way. They don't that the offensive line
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: is road grading like they would want in the running game,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: so they feel they haven't run the ball really well.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: They feel like they've thrown it better. But at least
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: with Fancer, they certainly weren't looking to throw the ball
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: down the field last week, Brad.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Didn't you see in that Cincinnati game a lot of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: underneath passes? But I know you're going to get to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: those wideouts, pretty good wideouts. Get the ball two guys
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in space, right, That's what they can make a plaint.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Correct, That's what they're trying to do. But I think
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: if you're West Virginia's defense, given what I just said,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: it's a good approach by Cincinnati, keep that stuff in
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: front of you. Four point five yards per attempt. Guys
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: would be near the bottom nationally at that number. If
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: that's the number against Weld, I like your chances because again,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: what are you banking on that UCF commits a penalty
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: or two and backs themselves up, and that's exactly what happened.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: So if it's Fancer and he takes off and runs
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but you bottle Montgomery, and if they
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: want to throw it forty nine times again, but everything's
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: in front of you, okay, so be it. I think
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you take your chances with those numbers. Here's another number
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to back that up about Cincinnati. Excuse me, UCF using
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: a lot out of the field but not being able
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: to finish. They come into this game one hundred and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: thirty second nationally. It's only a few teams worse in
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: starting offensive field position. Can West Virginia hold that number
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and keep them having to go long fields with a
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: bunch of plays again, you'll like your chance if you
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: do it. Now, flip over to the other side. This
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: UCF defense on paper has looked very good. Held its
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: first five opponents scoreless in the first quarter, so they've
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: been off to a good start. But here's where that
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: schedule strength matters. Are these numbers inflated against an early
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: season schedule that included Jacksonville State, North Carolina A and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: T and a North Carolina program that's an absolute disaster
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: mess right now and can't figure itself out.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Answers, Yes, because go ahead. Because when they played somebody good, Cincinnati,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Sincinnati scored two touchdowns in the first quarter.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what I mean. So if you start
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: to look and if you just want to go in
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to just take PFF, if you want to look at
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: their grades on the defensive categories, I think a lot
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: of this was inflated by that early schedule. So really
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: good numbers. I can go right down the list fortieth
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: nationally and havoc rate. I mean, every number looks really
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: good except their run defense.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Hop.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: But you just wonder how much of that should be
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: schedule adjusted for racking it up against some early teams.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: So you start to look down this group and you
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: look at them and say, do the numbers, well the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: numbers match up what you see on the field here,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: because I think West Virginia has some advantages even with
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: some of their gaudy defensive statistics. Now can that actually
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: come through and come to fruition?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Very good, good report, Very well done. Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: One last thing, sure betting line. We mentioned this open
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: seven and a half in favor of UCF right, yeah, right.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It's the fifth time in seven games this season West
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Virginia has been a touchdown or more underdog one in
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: three straight up in those games two and two against
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the spread. So you won against Pitt, You covered against
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Pitt and BYU it was a late cover, but you covered.
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  Speaker 1: Has it moved either, yeah, holding at seven and a half.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go, there's the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: It was good it was interesting he did. He did
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  Speaker 1: well to anyhow, he did real well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey, why don't you take it deep breath
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: right now, get yourself something to drink. Oh really, would
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  Speaker 2: you like to use the I twelve water cooler from
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Isn't it about time we put one of those?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Like right back there, just gonna say, do we have
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: one of those?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I mean we should. Comax Business Systems. They're all in
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: on keeping folks that work at your business place hydrate it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: But they don't want you to do it the old
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: fashioned way of lugging around those big plastic jugs. Not
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  Speaker 2: at all. Put yourself water machine in. They've got those
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  Speaker 2: what they have.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: We should be like the rat pack in Las Vegas.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You know they had a bar on stage. We should
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: have a water thing. Just get up and wander over
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and get some water and come back.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Did they have a bar in stage. Yeah, I didn't know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: They famously.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Bishop always the outlier I think in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: red pack money. It's God.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of weird. I'm kind of a weird thing. Yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: but he was there, he was, Yeah, Joey Bishop. Good
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  Speaker 1: to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Three guys also brought to us Joey Bishop of reference.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I brought up rat backs as my fault, but
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, three guys also brought to us by our good
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of water in the state of Florida
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  Speaker 2: right around surround it, right, Yeah, and all of the boats.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to the game on Saturday, any boat
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  Speaker 2: that you see will probably a very big chance there
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  Speaker 3: Back out head under the bridge and it won't be
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  Speaker 3: much further and you're sitting outside that stadium.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, that's what it is. Those are a look
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  Speaker 2: at some of the pontoons. The Avalon Pontoon Boats and
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  Speaker 2: manufacturer one hundred percent in the United States, So it's
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  Speaker 2: Tell them Hoppy sent you.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: That's gonna help.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Tell them Hoppy sent you. Basketball schedule times finally came.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of some weirdness excuse me, non traditional. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: shouldn't say weirdness, just non traditional.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: In what category?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Well, just a bunch six o'clock weeknights, start against pitt
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: for the backyard brawl. That's unusual it is. It's okay,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that's pick because I think you'll still be packed in there.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: But the weird six o'clock weeknight I can't remember many
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of those.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Is that for TV is? What is it? Yeah?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Well I don't know. You know, it's weird. Yeah, one
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: league play starts. There's only one ESPN Plus game the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: whole season.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: They are eleven of twenty conference games. Last year. We're
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: on ESPN plus eleven eleven of twenty this year.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: One And why is that?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: New networks? Okay, new new network involvement.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Peacocks involved, Foxes involved, which means FS one also CBS,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: CBS Sports Network.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more places, more places to uh for the inventory.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I'll cut down on the foul language across the state
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: at game time, people trying.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: To well, you just got to remember what now, so listen.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be really hard to find what TV
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: network it's on, so i'd encourage you just turned and
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: tune the radio on.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Well, have the radio on. I usually have radio.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Is gonna be in the same.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Place, video on, the video on and listen to you guys. Yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: thank you. It's my playing talking to a go to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of games, talking.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: To a nine o'clock home games, No, no good, got
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a couple of eight thirties mixed in there.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Talk to a guy in Stillwater Oklahoma rese.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, super Bowl Sunday games at one pm. People
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: like that. You can enjoy the red here in Morgantown, get
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: home watch super Bowl if you want.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be good.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So Kansas did catch a break, Kansas, Kansas caught a break.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So Saturday home game for West Virginia, Kansas coming in.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: They get the game at noon. Now it's Kansas. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: would think it'll still be a rocket Fireman, it'll still
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: be loud. Kansas caught a break there that wasn't lined
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: up at one nighttime, five o'clock, six o'clock, seven o'clock night.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I was talking to this guy in Stillwater, Oklahoma. He's
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a designing a new radio that will have the delay
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: on it. There's been some that are out there. Some
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: people have bought them through the years, but now they
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: stop making them. It's been difficult. So this guy's created one.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: They'll give you a delay on regular radio, regular terrestrial
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: radio signal, and also has Internet capability, so you could
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: get an audio stream off of an Internet source and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: delay it as well. That but it won't be out
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: till next football season. But it's very pretty encouraging.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: So you can listen I kind of like it throws
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: my wife and it's dizzy, but I like it when
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I when you or a play ahead, oh, something like this,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and I know what to watch for.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I can't do that, just sync it up. I can't.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I don't like. No, I watch well like you say,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, cliol back to pass throws it down.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Feel like, oh, okay, I'll watch to see what happens. Yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm okay. I just look, I'm watching. I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: listening to you. I love the comments you and Dwight
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and Jed make. Then I want to see it. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: want to see it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But you don't want them both at the same time.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. It doesn't have to be SYNCD up
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  Speaker 1: for me.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. Let's do some textual healing.
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  Speaker 2: we go. These are we run a good wide swatch
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: of thoughts here, Curtis and Portland rights in. I really
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: hope that you skip from episode number six sixty five
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to six six seven. Whoops. I would be curious for
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Brad to get the data around our increased defensive turnover rate.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Is there a stat that reflects a ratio of the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: amount of turnovers to the number of plays played. I'm
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: curious if our defense has truly improved in that aspect,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: or is it just around the field a lot more
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: due to poor offense. So much time on the field
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: means more plays, which means more opportunities for a turnover.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Red Interestingly, I actually saw this before we went on
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: the air and did some quick numbers. Oh good, So
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I think I've got this, but bear with me if
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: not sure, I'm trying to do it fast because I
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: do not see these beforehand. Interestingly, West Virginia almost dead
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: on pace defensively to face the same number of plays
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: as it did last year. Real if it projects out,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: it's almost half what it was last year, just slightly
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: over that. West Virginia has been good at takeaways this season.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: In fact, they're twenty ninth nationally with ten takeaways in
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: the first six games. The problem internoti Marge has been
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: even given too many back and.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I've been able to capitalize in other instances. When you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: got the turnover.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Correct To answer Curtis's question specifically, you are ahead of pace.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: You've almost doubled your turnover rate this season versus last season,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: about two point three percent versus one point three percent
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: last year. Wow. We actually that's a rare answer on
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: the fly of a text question.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with a fact.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Well, that one that's very unusual.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: We just used a fact and the answering the question.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Dear Scope senator and hoppy cubed, I'm yet another long
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: first time listener. Long time first time can't thank you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: all enough for the years of enjoyment and entertainment so
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: needed for lifetime mounts. In your fans question, given the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: new funds available, do you think that rich will be
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: able to retain his useful talent from this year's team
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: and or recruit top talent for next year. Well, our
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: mediocre record this season handicap our recruiting next year. Signed
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: by J D Anderson Frederick Maryland.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say what I think I said
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: on the previous show is that and this is all
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: kind of nebulous out there, that they did not spend
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: all their football money. There's I think about four or
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: five million maybe that they didn't spend that they can
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: spend next year along for next season, but probably before
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: July first, along with the thirteen to fourteen million that
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: football is going to have, so you should be brad
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: well funded going into next year.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the optimistic approach on this, guys.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And we've seen this before with Rich. We've seen it
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: look not ideal in year one and then it turned
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: around fairly quickly. So I'm going to unless I know
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: there's factors between now and his first time here that
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: make things a little bit different, but just take the
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: basic premise and I think this, guys, I'm gonna take
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the optimistic approach that the talent influx continues to grow
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: in that think about what they were doing. They just
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: were not around for the first high school class, right,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: That was not the class that they signed. It was
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: just Rich by himself for a long time. You didn't
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: have the GM on board, you weren't evaluating portal as
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you are doing now where you have almost a year
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: runway in both of those areas high school guys for
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the most part. That will build the program down the road,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: and then you should have a better handle on the
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: portal who will be in there. You know, some of
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: that stuff's already floating around. You have an idea of
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: who's going to be available. I would think the talent
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: influx will be there next year in the year to come,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: as they've now settled in from a staff perspective.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Agreed that time you shut my microphone off one of
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the fir times you've pulled that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Tread wear ability from over here.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I would say to answer your question JD, that West
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Virginia will not have the most money in the league
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: going to the market, they will be far away from
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: having the least amount. I think the probably in the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: top five or six when you add everything in, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I think that West Virginia will be in a very
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: good position. When you talk to the folks over at
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: football and I specifically ask them do you have enough
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to go get good players? They go, yes, we do,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and as Brad said, much better identification of who is
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: out there and who they need, both at the high
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: school level and in the transfer portal, and Rich did
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: a good job of explaining this during his talk show
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: on Monday night. We spent a pretty good chunk of time.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: But the reality of it is this. There is daily
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: conversations that are happening right now between agents and the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: general managers at football programs shopping players. So every school
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: already has its list of this player is going to
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: be available when the portal window opens. What's the deal
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: going to be. That happens every single day. I know
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: for some folks they would be aghast by that. Are
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you kidding me? No, that's what's happening. And so these
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: guys are right now in the midst of doing that
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: like everyone else. And so they have a pretty good
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: idea right now today, who's going to be out there,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: what it's going to take. And now they have to
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: make sure that they don't error when it comes to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the evaluation. And that's going to be the key. So
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: they're going to be able to get people. They just
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: need to make sure that they're a fit and that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: they'll instantly be able.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: To help Tony. That's well said. One of the challenges
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I think is going to be that, look, we know
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: West Virginia very well, and we know that they do
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: things right. They're going to follow the rules, but not
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: everybody is. And I think you're still going to have
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: schools that will have because West Virginia is taking its
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: collectives internal. There will be schools that have outside collectives
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that are still going to exist even if the school
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: is taking some of that work inside, and that outside
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: collective is going to say rules, we don't care about
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: now stinking rules, and it's still gonna is going to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: push that nil envelope, okay, And that's where I think
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: that other schools could still have an advantage if they
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: push beyond what the rules are and that's gonna happen.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: That's gonna happen.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be times where someone's gonna
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: be your your number is whatever. Let's just say, for
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the heck of it, easy math your numbers, three hundred
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Kid really wants to come here, but school
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: X comes in and says, hey, we got five fifty
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: here for you. Well, it's gonna go five to fifty.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: That's always going to happen. It's always gonna happen. So
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. But even though those
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: things happen, these guys internally feel there'll be enough. They'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: be they'll be able to get good enough players to
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: accomplish what they want to accomplish. Three guys, Justin and
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Petersburg ren Baker stated that West Virginia did not spend
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: its entire revshare. Is West Virginia able to invest this
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: leftover money without state and federal tax hits? Especially if
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: a crew moneies go toward more scholarship creation and not
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: toward nil thoughts given the university's tax exemption status. Question Mark,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: appreciate all you do. Sure, Justin, thanks for that question.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Contact Conley CPA Group. They'd be more than happy to
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: walk through the liability issue and inform you as to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: how that would go. When you said, Mike, Mike is
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: his name? Mike Overck right, Brad Mike over great guy? Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Conley CPA Group, Texter, Well, I guess the SEC. This
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: is about the UH, the private equities coming into these conferences.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I guess the SEC is going to be next with
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: a three billion dollar deal. And like Pro football did
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: many years ago with the merger of the AFL and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the NFL, the Big ten of the SEC will merge
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: pick up a few other blue bloods, so all their
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: politicians will outnumber our politicians, so the Feds won't step in,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and the rest of us will be in a pickle.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I know our scholarship ads will help, but it's not
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: equivalent to a share of billions. And didn't universities develop
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: these teams and brand? So where is their share? Where's
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: our commissioner? It'll be interesting to see if this big
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: ten deal does come to fruition with the private equity opportunity.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: See that a couple of the schools, Michigan and USC
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: are both going like, uh, not really interested in this, No,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: thank you, So that will be the next frontier.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Why would Ohio State go for this?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know John. You know John Willner out in
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the West Coast. Who right? He made some pretty good points, like,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: hey man, once you give away ten percent of your
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: of your conference, you'll never get that back. No, you
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: will not, You'll never get that back. Like you better
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: you better think about this twice or three times.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think produce just giddy, produce just giddy. How
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: about andy football side of things? Not basketball? Basketball has
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: been very good preseason number one, but Purdue football is
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: just giddy, just haven't won a thing for a long time,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: and just sitting out there just just fund money just
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: falling down on them. I mean they walk in the office,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: they can't open the doors of money. I haven't won
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: since ninety eight. All due respect, of course, the boiler
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Makers respect.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: How about this next picture series of pictures only two
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: days took two days of smoking.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Minnesota just out there just shoveling snow in money around.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I ain't getting all this mouff Minnesota, give.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You right, They're just they're rowing the boat man part
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: of the plane. Only took two days of smoking and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: cooking to get to the goal of a brisket on
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a biscuit worth it still not as good as redcap.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Look at that brisket. You talk about a perform ar there. Yeah,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: and then that became this, oh, and then that became.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: This connections connection three all four there.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: So he went biscuit egg love it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks good.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, horse radish with them.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I would think on the side, there's probably some horse
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: radish around there and a homemade biscuit there.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be did good job getting that connection
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Thriell four in there. Yeah, friends, over at Parker's available
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: many go March Rum State.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Oh at the party store in Yeah, they carried in
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the Suncrest.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, were you over there?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I was over there? What are you doing over that area?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I bought Connections three O four?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Really yeah? Interesting?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: A couple cans in the fridge right as.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: We speak, Texter. Last week, the Big twelve women's basketball
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: poll came out. I'm guessing the men's will be out
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: this week. Where do you think they will be picked?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I hope it is not last, won't be last, won't
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: be last. It'll be ten eleven. You think it'll be
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: that high. So the Athletics preseason had West Virginia at ten,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: which is pretty darn good when there's sixteen teams and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: you're starting from scratch.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Ye that the writer that did that understands basketball really well. Yes,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: we'd on Sports one for He's good.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: He gets it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: That's why West Riene is ten.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: So I think that, Yeah, you're not going to be
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: in the basement, You're not going to be in the
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: upper eight. You're going to be you know, probably Brett anywhere,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, somewhere. I mean in that section,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: which is fine.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Which is my fine, don't matter.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Last show, I talked about coaching Momp the football player,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: the punter. I think he was at Cincinnata that had
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the really short shorts. And this person says, hey, for
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Tony's search for the shortest pants in college football. Look
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: at this cat from the University of Florida. Wow, he
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: basically a basketball short time.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, how long before it's just like a guy
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and a T shirt out there? Well, just a onesie
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: maybe like a onesie you know that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are no knee pads in that outfit. It's
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: also interesting, how how about how slim down our shoulder
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: pads from the old Remember those big ones shoulder pads
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: out here?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Texter says it looks like with the firing of James
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Franklin that we can expect Andy Kotelnicki's mentioned index to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: make a return.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been on hiatus for a while.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Can I is this why I shouldn't strip my Penn
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: State stuff? We want to wait?
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's a dandy time.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: So Franklin's firing, the first thing you saw was the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: buyot right, forty eight to fifty million dollars, right, nobody's going,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, forty eight to fifty million dollars and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that So I have two takes on this. One is
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: that is that is nuts. That's a full amount of
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: his contract until the extent of the contract, which is
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: through twenty thirty one. And I did some math on that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Penn State has got some financial issues.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: It comes at a time when Penn State is closing
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: seven of its satellite campuses after the spring twenty twenty
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: seven semester due to declining enrollment and financial pressures. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the average annual cost for an undergraduate Pen State students
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: about the student about thirty thousand dollars. That's tuition, fees, housing,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and food. The average undergraduate leaves Penn State with a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: degree and a debt of about forty thousand dollars. So
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I know it's apples and oranges. So there's but still
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: it seems like bad optics. However, However, when you take
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a closer look at his contract, Brad, I think it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: fascinating and other schools should take note because and you
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: know this right, you know the story here.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I know what you're gonna say, because the office
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: this is why you said, yeah, set, most schools do that. Now,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: this isn't unique to Penn State. West Virginia had an
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: office se is that standard in the standard in the industry?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the offset because all the stories have been
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: just about the forty eight million dollars or the fifty
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: million dollars. And then Front Office Sports got a hold
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a contract and they saw the offset so that if
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: he gets another job, and he and by the way,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: he has to look for another job. He can't not
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: look for another job, so that there's a mitigation clause.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: So he has to look for another job. What what, yes,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how but he's got to look for another job. Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: well he over the unemployment office.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Here's the way.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: So he has to look for another job. So whatever
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: he gets then that offsets whatever he's paid, offsets what
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Penn State owes him, which, as you said, right, if
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it's standard down in the industry. In West Virginia had
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: some of that too. Texas A and M did not,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I don't believe, right, So they had to pay Jimbo
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: seventy seventy six million. But certainly every school, now I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: mean as as athletic departments figure out that they don't
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: want to be, you know, bum rushed that they got
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to have that claw. Has it meant a getting calls?
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know who wouldn't have that clause at this
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: point you mentioned Texas am. I don't know how you
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: overlook that is that is standard, And I think that's
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: the interesting part of that is that that's a wild
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: quick trigger there from a program that's a lot of
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: games and was a few plays from a national championship,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: and the replacement will be fascinating you go to market there,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I'll be fascinated to see who they end up with,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: because that's a that's a high floor that he at
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: least set. I get all the numbers that people want
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: to throw out. I understand that. But that's also if
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: you're if you're any other school with a job opening.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: That's why if you're Penn State, you probably had some
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: more comfort in pulling that Traeiger than in a normal situation.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: James Franklin is infinitely marketable to another school if he
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: wants to coach next season. Now, he could go take
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: a broadcasting job at a lot less than that, But
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: if he wants to be a head coach at a
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: power of program next year, I would think they're going
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: to be lining up to get I mean, if Virginia
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Tech could get James Franklin, you do that deal yesterday.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: If Oklahoma State could get James Franklin, I would have
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: done that job yesterday. If Florida opens, I would talk
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: to James Franklin. That guy's won a lot of games there.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: So I would think if you're Penn State, as ridiculous
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: as fifty million dollars is to not come to work,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: you have some comfort there that he's going to land
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: a pretty high paying big college job next, Maybe more
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: so than a lot of other coaches that are in
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: that same situation.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: He's he's not a guy that has to has to
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: take the UAB job. All due respect to UAB. Okay,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you're right, there'll be and there's a there are how
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: many big jobs are going to be open?
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: I mean a ton, there's already a there's already some
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: major jobs.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So there's going to be others. You know, Wisconsin's probably
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: going to be open, Florida may be open, Florida State
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: may be open, right, I mean these other so there's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: going to be jobs. And I was really I was
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: really appalled by that forty eight million dollars bout until
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I read the contract language about the mitigation course.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know that? I mean it's standard.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Now say I just I guess I'm behind the curve
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: on that. I didn't.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, now that your summer retire, you can go
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: over law school. I'll teach a few things over there.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: All these offsets work, you know what. All I think
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: internally over a decade, there had to be people that
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: James Franklin had upset in the highest levels of Otherwise,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: you don't blow this guy up like that. He had
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: pissed off enough people where they used those numbers of
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: not winning these big games, and that's enough. If he
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: had built up a tremendous you know, goodwill within, I
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: don't think they blow him up like that.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I just don't sigger.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Given where you were, You've also been their twelve seasons.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: So it's what we always say. You start to mount
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: the number of seasons and the fl laws become the
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: talked about point. Matt rules, the obvious candidate that everybody's
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: writing about and putting on their lists.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Played for Joe Paterno. He and the ad were at
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Temple together like I get why Matt rules on there.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Would you just say about James Franklin and the numbers?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: It was the wins over top ten teams. Everybody lost
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: their mind about Matt Rule's done a fantastic job at
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: multiple places. He's two and twenty three lifetime against ranked teams.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I mean not that I need to tell Penn State
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: who to hire, what to look at, but you're going
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: to run James Franklin for a number that's similar, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Matt Rules in a position to be two and twenty
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: three against ranked teams.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just decide it's.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: But I'll be abest to watch where they let where
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: they start to go for this search, because it's a
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: small group of people that you can go to and
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: be fairly certain that it will be better than what
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you had. And that always the crux of these decisions.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: It is, and also it has to be whether it's
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: said or implied, it's like, Okay, Brad, we're going to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: hire you, by the way, you have to win a
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: national championship.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Which is their expectation. I get that that's Penn State's expectation.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: That's also really hard. I was gonna say, I mean
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: that I think it's more to me, it's more about
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: the challenge and the decision becomes where do you go.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: It's and we've said this a lot, it's easy to fire,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: it's hard to hire. So that's why I can't wait
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: to see where they land. Who do they go to
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: that you have a higher certainty that you're in a
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: better spot to win a national.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Champion because Franklin, you look at coach hires, and we've
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: seen coach hires and you say, wow, that looked good
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: at the time, but it turned out to be a mistake,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: didn't work right, Franklin was not a mistake. It worked.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it worked out except for winning a national championship.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: You could easily make a mistake and be worse.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a bigger chance of making a mistake
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: than you do of hitting the right guy.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Now, they would tell you some of the things we
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: just talked about. There likely had had frayed some relationships
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: over twelve years. That's a long time. That's a that's
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: a lifetime in coaching circles. Now, where you get hire
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: of what you have, I just I think it's going
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: to be really interesting moving forward where they land.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Longtime text or Dave texts in.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Just Live while we're talking about this kind.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Of sort of relatively short, he says, I got too
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: much time to think. Penn State loses to Oregon. Realignment
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: has them traveling across the country to UCLA the very
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: next week, never ready to play red Iback lose to
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Northwestern Oregon. Game beats them three times. Costs when all
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: sudden down one hundred million dollars that would have never
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: happened if we are geographically aligned, and one hundred million
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: dollars would not be wasted between travel costs, kids, time, buyouts, assistance,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: new staff, fricking waste of money. Same week, West Virginia
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: flies to BYU, University of Washington plays at Maryland. Utter nonsense,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean good, We're starting to see the
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: reality of these stupid expansions that took place in the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Big ten that caused all this West Coast, East coast.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: We're in the same league. It's just now you're just
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: looking at it, going like, then, you know what, this
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: is just freaking stupid to the.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Point where for West Virginia, to the point where West
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Virginia go, oh good, You're going to.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Florida exactly We're excited to go to Florida, which used
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: to be the longest road trip.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Texter.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: You used topeak, gotta go get a bigger plane going
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: to Miami. Longer trip, Gotta go to Pittsburg. Fish right,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: longer trip.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Texter says. We are back from the Jack Daniels World
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Invitational Barbecue Competition, and I'd say that West Virginia was
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: well represented. Both teams from the state of West Virginia,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: ourselves and Poor Boys Barbecue from Ocanna were able to
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: make the walk to the big stage. Dog Bite Barbecue
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: finished second in brisket with a perfect score.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Of one hundred and eighty.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: We were able to get fiftieth place out of ninety
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: of the best barbecue cooks in the world. Take you
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: look at some these pictures. Look at that brisket, boys,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding me? That looks so beautiful
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: presented and moist.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got green underneath it.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: It does a nice little thing cuts off and there
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: he is getting that stuff ready and go ahead, Jake,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: just flash him through. So he had the whole barbecue
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: thing going there. And then they had a big old
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: had a big old event inside that barn. You know,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Jack Daniel's people. They got to have a nice barn
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: all lit up, and there he is and there she is,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: and they barbecued together and they had a great showing
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: for the state of West Virginia at that Jack Daniels
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: World Invitational.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for representing three guys.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I've got a West Virginia connection story and a comment
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: on Hagis. My wife and I took three weeks to
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: celebrate my sixtieth in Scotland. Flew into Heathrow and then
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: when we were getting our rental car, another couple came
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: in to do the same thing. When they were asked
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: where they're from, they said Pittsburgh. Being who I am,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I said, let's go. They both turned and said mountaineers.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I was, as the British would say, gobsmacked. I didn't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: get to speak with them, but we gave each other
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: a wave and a smile. As we were leaving, I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: promised myself I would try Hagis so I could say
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: that I did. The first meal we ate in Scotland,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: we ordered Hagis delicious. I ordered it with every meal
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: where it was offered. I even had it with my
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: traditional Scottish breakfast. A couple of times. Thank you for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: all that you do for the state and the university,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Samba Gary and Scott Depot.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, how about that an aged Scotch might help that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: go down to HM hoppy.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Next texter says, I cannot stand this year zero. Have patience,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it'll take time, negative and narratives anymore. Signetti and Iowa
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: have proven that one year is plenty of time and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: other talk is a loser mentality where ten years removed
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: from relevancy in a moment when relevancy is the key
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to the future of programs.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I still stand by the year zero for a reason, stated.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I would tell the Texter that, I mean, what Kurt
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Signetti is doing at Indiana is absolutely the exception rather
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: than the rule. If you take a look at first
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: year coaches in any of the powerful conferences, that is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: not normal. I mean, what he's doing is unbelievable, but
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: that is not the norm. That would be the exception.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: And props to him and to Indiana. I mean, Indiana
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: goes to Oregon, beats Oregon, and Oregon lined up. It's impressive.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Did you guys think the coach salary bubble is speeding
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: toward bursting? I'm listening to some Florida State media shows
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: and podcasts. They've brought up the idea of hiring small
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and making it a first player, first model, also the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: idea of a GM being the face of the program.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Poor buddies are scrambling and they haven't even fired Mike Norvel.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: These fifty million dollars buyouts and long contracts don't seem
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: tenable with revenue share and all the other new signed
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: by Dave and kayser ps. I highly recommend listening to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: the Blue Blood Schools podcast when there's major turmoil happening.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just being a petty hater when other
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: when what.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Do I always say? No, nobody's reaching down with a
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: hand to help you up. So Florida State's struggling, best
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: of luck, Penn State's and turmoil, best of luck North
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Carolina can't find its way out of the paper bag,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: so be it.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: That's the lute guys, Brad, you've brought me on board
• 1:02:29
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  Speaker 2: All right, so we're back in here Sunday morning to
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  Speaker 1: I like again. I I defer to Brad on the stats, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: and you on the stats. You have a lot more
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  Speaker 1: I just like it situationally, and I spent again, I
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  Speaker 1: spent the off week getting somewhat optimistic about possibilities. And
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  Speaker 1: so I'm going in with some level with a level
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  Speaker 1: of optimism. And I don't think I'm bad. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I'm being have rose colored glasses year. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, better situation than you've had the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Go see what those young quarterbacks can do. Driv you
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  Speaker 3: a little, But can you run against this UCF defense.
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  Speaker 3: That's first and foremost what I'm watching.
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  Speaker 1: Go get you one.
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  Speaker 2: So by the time we come back on, not only
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  Speaker 2: will the football squad have played Game seven, but also
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  Speaker 2: the newly formatted Born Mountaineer men's basketball team will play
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  Speaker 2: it's quadruple secret scrimmage. They bring everyone in with a
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  Speaker 2: like it's most Virginia Maryland, like who squeaks? Who squeals?
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  Speaker 3: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think happens? Because you know creative, they're
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  Speaker 3: They'll be very crafty about how they do it though,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia women are getting ready to scrimmage Virginia Tech
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing? So they're gonna play Tech this
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, rolling along doing great.
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