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Signs in the Heavens: Hope vs. Hype | Brad Reeves | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast. Hey everyone,
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Speaker 1: Mona Gonzalez here with a special podcast for you today.
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Speaker 1: I partnered with Pastor Brad Reeves of Coming Soon Ministries
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about all the things of which
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Speaker 1: the Bible says about in Luke twenty one, where Jesus
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Speaker 1: talked about things in the heavens coming.
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Speaker 2: Upon the earth. So this is kind of a fun podcast.
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Speaker 1: We talk about apophice, we talk about three I Atlas,
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Speaker 1: and any other of what you would imagine as cosmic
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Speaker 1: astronomical signs that we see in the Book of Revelation. Again,
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Speaker 1: we cover a lot of things. It was pretty fun,
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Speaker 1: so take a listen.
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Speaker 3: Well, Mondo, good to see you, Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: It is always good to be with you.
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Speaker 4: Hey, how's it going.
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Speaker 3: I want to just give a quick update for people
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Speaker 3: who are watching, and maybe there's somebody out there that
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Speaker 3: doesn't know who you are.
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Speaker 4: Would you introduce yourself please?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. My name is Mondo Gonzalez.
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Speaker 1: As a pastor for sixteen years and then about five
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Speaker 1: years ago was asked to come over here to prophecy Watchers,
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Speaker 1: which profecy watchers. Many people might know is a is
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Speaker 1: a very large ministry, television and radio and YouTube, social media,
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Speaker 1: you name it, print magazine and so conferences, some of
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Speaker 1: the biggest conferences of the year often come to profetcy Watchers.
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Speaker 1: So I felt honored to come here and join Gary
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Speaker 1: Gary Steerman and to help him co host our television program.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, he's going to be eighty eight this year,
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Speaker 1: so he slowed down a little bit as he deserves
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Speaker 1: two and he's in here when he when he wants
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Speaker 1: to be, and we give him the freedom to what.
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Speaker 2: Do you want to do?
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Speaker 1: Gary, So it's pretty amazing to join him and certainly
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Speaker 1: all the all that he has done.
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Speaker 2: So it's been good so far.
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Speaker 1: We were very busy as as you know, you've been
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Speaker 1: here now to the studios, which is great.
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Speaker 2: So it's a it's been a good time meeting everybody.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 3: I have such a deep respiet back for the work
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Speaker 3: the prophecy Watchers does and I've always enjoyed partnering with
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Speaker 3: you guys in any way we can, and I encourage
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Speaker 3: people if if they're not familiar with prophecy Watchers, which
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Speaker 3: I would be very surprised that if someone's watching this
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Speaker 3: program they're not familiar with with prophecy watchers, please check
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Speaker 3: them out. Uh, there's a And I have a lot
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Speaker 3: of respect for you, Mondo, because you have a very
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Speaker 3: analytical mind and with a strong and deep theological understanding
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Speaker 3: of things. And one of your great I don't know
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Speaker 3: if you would call it a hobby or a I
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Speaker 3: don't know how you define it, is your love for astronomy.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely the Uh I remember being I think I was
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Speaker 1: in eighth grade.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, I'm going to be an astronaut.
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Speaker 1: Of course, you know, you get a lot of a
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Speaker 1: lot of dreams when you're young. And then, uh, I
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Speaker 1: actually went to I went to the fair. Let me
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Speaker 1: turn my phone off. Sorry about that. I went to
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Speaker 1: the fair, the.
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Speaker 2: County fair to state fair, and I realized I get.
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Speaker 4: Horrible motion sickness.
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Speaker 2: So there with all of my dreams of being an astronaut.
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Speaker 1: And anyways, so I've loved astronomy back many years ago,
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Speaker 1: back in the late nineties, I goinged a love telescopes
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Speaker 1: and stuff, and I've just always been in love with
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Speaker 1: the heavens. And then recently my kids got I became
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Speaker 1: an empty nester, and you know, I think I was
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Speaker 1: forty six forty seven, I thought, you know what, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna get a telescope again because I want to start
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Speaker 1: taking photographs of the heavens because the technology is so
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Speaker 1: far advanced now, and they may it makes it very
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Speaker 1: easy for the you know, the new person. And so
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Speaker 1: I came here and Gary loves astronomy as well, and
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Speaker 1: so we're kind of talking to him and he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's do it. And then of course we were able
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Speaker 1: to through many people that joined on. God was just
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Speaker 1: very very generous to us and allowing people outside of
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Speaker 1: the ministry to say, hey, we want to support what
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Speaker 1: you're doing. So we have an extremely well equipped observatory
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Speaker 1: and so we take pictures of the heavens. People go
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Speaker 1: to sal nineteen project dot com and they can see
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Speaker 1: all of our pictures. They're all free, high resolution, beautiful,
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Speaker 1: beautiful stuff that God has created.
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Speaker 2: And we're right now we're just getting.
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Speaker 1: Ready just for the sake of update is we're getting
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Speaker 1: ready to move some of our best equipment to a
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Speaker 1: remote site in New Mexico where we're going to take
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Speaker 1: advantage of the dark skies. That's one of the things
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Speaker 1: bad here about Oklahoma is the skies are okay. So
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Speaker 1: even the pictures that we get are okay, which we
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Speaker 1: know they could be even better.
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Speaker 2: But we're going to go to this place and it's
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Speaker 2: up seventy five hundred feet, which is great elevation.
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Speaker 1: Skies are crisp and clear, the seeing is phenomenal, and
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Speaker 1: so I would say expect some even better stuff from
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Speaker 1: our project. But which again I find it interesting that
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Speaker 1: the Lord has allowed me to have this desire for
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Speaker 1: so long because here we are, Brad and and the
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Speaker 1: scripture is very clear that there's going to be a
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Speaker 1: lot of things happening in the skies as we know
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Speaker 1: as we approach the end.
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Speaker 3: Well, Mondo, I've I've been able to see some of
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Speaker 3: your work, and we were I think recently over dinner,
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Speaker 3: you and I were. You were showing me some of
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Speaker 3: your pictures do you have on your phone and dat
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Speaker 3: trump a lot of stuff what I see all with
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Speaker 3: on NASA sites and stuff.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's very well done.
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Speaker 3: And I know you you you've put a lot of
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Speaker 3: work into it, and you put a lot of passion
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Speaker 3: into and it comes out. So uh, this conversation we're
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Speaker 3: having today is really timely as we are seeing more
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Speaker 3: things happen in the heavenlies.
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Speaker 4: And there's there's.
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Speaker 3: A line between hope and hype and in a lot
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Speaker 3: of ways, and it's okay, it's okay to be excited
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Speaker 3: about something. But I think the Jesus gave us these
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Speaker 3: these these things about about.
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Speaker 4: Heavenly events.
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Speaker 3: It's not for us to get hyped up about it,
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Speaker 3: but for us to pay attention.
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Speaker 4: What do you think about some of that?
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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent?
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Speaker 1: You know, if people know me, sometimes I get criticized that,
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Speaker 1: which I'm okay with that. I tend to be kind
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Speaker 1: of a naysayer. People say I always reject everything. It's like, well, no,
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Speaker 1: as you as you mentioned, my mind is very analytical
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Speaker 1: and I'm not prone to sensationalism, and so I don't
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Speaker 1: like that because there, as we know, if you've been
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Speaker 1: in the prophecy world long enough, there are those that
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Speaker 1: have hurt the cause, in the cause of Christ ultimately,
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Speaker 1: because when you have people, you know, in nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: four or in nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight reasons why
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Speaker 1: Jesus would come back in eighty eight, and then you
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Speaker 1: know Herald camping in ninety four, and then you have
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Speaker 1: you know, all these other people in twenty eleven, and
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Speaker 1: so all these these kind of predictions or which we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about the blood moons are the eclips Unfortunately, it
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Speaker 1: it brings up a good time, which we're discussing. But
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Speaker 1: when you have date setting and other things that come
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Speaker 1: along with it, and the hype and the sensationalism, then
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Speaker 1: when it comes and leaves, people are looking back and going, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're the boy who cried wolf. And so I have
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Speaker 1: family members who would challenge me through the years about
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Speaker 1: you know twenty eleven, you know, in May of twenty eleven,
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Speaker 1: you know, the raptures come in the end of the world.
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Speaker 1: And then I've said, well, I don't I've never accepted that.
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Speaker 1: I've never embraced that or the blood moons, all the
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Speaker 1: blood moons, what's going to come in the end of
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Speaker 1: the world. And then these things come and go, and
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Speaker 1: then the family members look at me and I was like, well,
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Speaker 1: you notice I wasn't a part of that. And so
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Speaker 1: I see it provides opportunity when it's not done carefully,
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Speaker 1: it provides opportunity for scoffing and mocking and hurting. Again, Ultimately,
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Speaker 1: true Biblical prophecy, which is accurate and as we'll discuss,
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Speaker 1: but it just has to be taken with wisdom, I
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Speaker 1: would say, And that's our goal. I mean, none of
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Speaker 1: us we pray for wisdom and discernment for sure, that
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Speaker 1: as we share these things, we could be humble and
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Speaker 1: uh and read the text, teach the text accurately, but
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Speaker 1: yet not get sucked into some of the hype.
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Speaker 3: So in biblical prophecy, one of the voices of the
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Speaker 3: signs in the heavens was Jesus himself, And in Luke
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Speaker 3: twenty one twenty five he said there would be signs
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Speaker 3: and sun, moon and stars. What exactly was he referring to?
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Speaker 3: Was he pointing to a specific event or was he
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Speaker 3: wanting us to just pay attention and stay awake? Was
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Speaker 3: where was his where was his leading in this?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes to both of those.
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Speaker 1: That the reason that Jesus spent the time in the
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Speaker 1: Element Discourse in giving such a descriptive response to the
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Speaker 1: disciples questions that you know they were they were Jesus
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Speaker 1: had just mentioned that the Jerusalem Temple would be destroyed,
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Speaker 1: and they're like, well, I mean it shocked their world.
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Speaker 1: They were not anticipating the heart of Israel, the Temple,
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Speaker 1: and the heart of Jerusalem to be destroyed. That again,
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Speaker 1: that didn't fit their eschatology, because the Kingdom was coming.
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Speaker 1: And so when Jesus responded to those questions, he expanded
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Speaker 1: and said, let me tell you what's really going to happen.
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Speaker 1: And of course the distance of time between even the
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Speaker 1: destruction of the Temple and seventy eighty all the way
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Speaker 1: to where we're at now. But one of the things
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Speaker 1: that he describes there was he describes the whole event,
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Speaker 1: the whole events leading up to what we call the
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Speaker 1: tribulation period, the seven year tribulation, the time of God's wrath,
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Speaker 1: which we see ultimately in Revelation Six's one all the
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Speaker 1: way to through chapter nineteen. And if you read, if
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Speaker 1: you read what he describes in the Alivid Discourse Matthew
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Speaker 1: twenty four, Mark thirteen and Luke twenty one, it parallels
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Speaker 1: very very nicely with what you see in Revelation six
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Speaker 1: and on. And one of those things is the the
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Speaker 1: sun and the moon and the stars, the Heaven's being shaken.
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Speaker 1: And so when you look at the various implications in
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Speaker 1: the book Revelation I mean, we see the sun turning dark,
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Speaker 1: we see the moon turning red.
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Speaker 2: We see the moon turning dark.
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Speaker 1: We see mountains of something like a mountain coming out
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Speaker 1: of the sky. We see something like a torch falling
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Speaker 1: from heaven. Jesus said before he returns all of the stars,
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Speaker 1: the whole universe is going to go dark. I mean
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Speaker 1: that to me, that is amazing that the universe would
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Speaker 1: go dark, because we live in the very nature of lights.
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Speaker 2: That's what stars do. They shine.
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Speaker 1: So there's no doubt when Jesus says this, he's telling
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Speaker 1: them that I think ultimately these things are going to
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Speaker 1: be fulfilled within the framework of what we understand is
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Speaker 1: Revelations six through eighteen. But it doesn't mean that we
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Speaker 1: aren't going to see some of the precursors of these things,
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Speaker 1: or the birthpangs of some of these things, or you
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Speaker 1: know what we might call what Jesus called as birth pangs.
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Speaker 1: So the great thing about astronomy is that we are
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Speaker 1: starting to see things being discovered that are periodic, like comets,
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Speaker 1: as an example, or asteroids, And to me, that's very,
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Speaker 1: very fascinating because of the proximity that many of them
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Speaker 1: are predicted to come to the Earth.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about some of these signs that we've
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Speaker 3: heard about. I know you've observed some of them yourself,
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Speaker 3: and let's just break this down a little bit. And
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Speaker 3: one of the first things that I think about is
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, there was a a lot of
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Speaker 3: hype around this interstellar object that was coming between Mars
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Speaker 3: and Earth and around called three I Atlas, and there
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Speaker 3: was all kinds of people making all kinds of predictions
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Speaker 3: about it.
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Speaker 4: What was it?
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Speaker 3: What was the hype about around it? And whatever became
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Speaker 3: of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good because it was This is this is
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Speaker 1: fascinating because we've entered into a new era in the
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Speaker 1: sense of the three I I just means interstellar Atlas
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Speaker 1: is the particular basically equipment that discovered it. This is
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Speaker 1: very well known, So it's not a lot of people
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Speaker 1: think about Atlas referring to some of the Greek gods.
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Speaker 1: That's really not why it was named that. That was
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Speaker 1: the basically the telescope that discovered it, and so Atlas
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Speaker 1: is a survey telescope that is used and so the
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Speaker 1: three on it.
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Speaker 2: Is has to do with it.
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Speaker 1: It's the third interstellar object that has been discovered, and
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Speaker 1: so how do.
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Speaker 2: They know that. So this was the only recent this
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Speaker 2: was just in July, and so they had been they're
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Speaker 2: with these surveys.
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Speaker 1: Now they just take these these massive amounts of images
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Speaker 1: and then they put them into you know, they have
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Speaker 1: people look at them over now they're putting them in AI.
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Speaker 1: And so AI is very very good at looking at patterns,
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Speaker 1: and so they just they just look and say, oh,
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Speaker 1: look at this, here's it, here's And I do this
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Speaker 1: with with my telescope. When I want to set up
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Speaker 1: a pointing model. I have a very sophisticated mount and
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Speaker 1: I go up and I'll put maybe eighty points or
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Speaker 1: one hundred points in so that the telescope will it'll
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Speaker 1: zoom over there and that it takes the picture of
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Speaker 1: the sky and then it records it. It zooms over there,
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Speaker 1: takes a picture of that part of the sky, and
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Speaker 1: so it'll go to all these different points and then
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Speaker 1: what it does is it plate solves it. It'll take
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Speaker 1: a picture and it says, oh, I know exactly where
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Speaker 1: this is, and it has all the coordinates connected with
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Speaker 1: all of it, and then it brings it into one
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Speaker 1: specific model and then it downloads that information to the
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Speaker 1: Mount and then the mount after that point. Once I
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Speaker 1: tell it go here to Jupiter, it zips over because
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Speaker 1: it knows exactly where everything is perfectly. It goes over
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Speaker 1: to Jupiter and it puts it right in the center.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it is phenomenal. So what's happening is because
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Speaker 1: we have so much information, especially with the Guy a telescope.
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Speaker 2: The Guy was a telescope.
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Speaker 1: That was built by the Europeans and it went and
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Speaker 1: it mapped billions of stars and our galaxy and beyond,
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Speaker 1: and so we understand the sky.
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Speaker 2: So when you're looking at something, what happened is they
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Speaker 2: took a picture.
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Speaker 1: They took a picture, they go, oh, whoa, whoa, that's
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Speaker 1: that moved from this image to this image, and so
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Speaker 1: that's how they discovered that this was a non It was.
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Speaker 2: Not a normal star. It was either an asteroid or comet.
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Speaker 1: So then what they did is the reason it's interstellar,
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Speaker 1: is they were able through the next few months to
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Speaker 1: tell that it was. It didn't have a normal trajectory
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Speaker 1: that a solar system calmet would and so then they realized, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is this is coming at a very sharp angle
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Speaker 1: to our solar system. The plane of the Solar System.
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Speaker 1: This is coming from interstellar that's unusual. So the three
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Speaker 1: just tells us it's only the third one ever discovered.
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Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that this is only the third
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Speaker 1: one that has ever been here. It's just only the
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Speaker 1: third one that we've ever discovered and recognized. Because a
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Speaker 1: new telescope, one of the ones that everybody's been waiting
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Speaker 1: on is the Veris Reuben telescope down in South America.
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Speaker 1: It just came online over the last six months and
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Speaker 1: it is the largest telescope with the biggest camera. It's
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Speaker 1: like a three point two gigapixels.
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Speaker 2: It's terabytes and terabytes petabytes of information that is planned
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Speaker 2: to do it.
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Speaker 1: And what it's designed to do is to survey the sky.
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Speaker 1: So I think this isn't a let's say, with Lord prediction.
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Speaker 1: This is just a common sense prediction that because it's
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Speaker 1: able to survey the sky every few days, the full sky,
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Speaker 1: and then take that information and then it's going to
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Speaker 1: be analyzed, I think we're going to be discovering far
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Speaker 1: more interstellar interstellar comments or asteroids and asteroids, Solar System commets,
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Speaker 1: and so I think the attention that is going to
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Speaker 1: happen over the next from here on out is going
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Speaker 1: to be much greater, and the precision is going to
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Speaker 1: be greater because now all of a sudd they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be like, hey, there is something there that wasn't caught
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Speaker 1: because it's very difficult most people. But now with this
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Speaker 1: amount of information, we're going to see more and more
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Speaker 1: of this, which again I think as timely as we're
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Speaker 1: approaching the end of the age, we're going to be.
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Speaker 2: Able to have much more coordinates.
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Speaker 1: That that I could look up in my telescope. We
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Speaker 1: had one of our guys which we put on Facebook.
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Speaker 2: He took.
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Speaker 1: A series of pictures of three iatlis and you could
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Speaker 1: see it moving right in there. So this is exciting
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Speaker 1: time for sure.
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Speaker 4: So whatever became of it? Did it?
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Speaker 3: Did it just fly out out of a solar system?
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Speaker 4: Is that you know?
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Speaker 3: Obviously it wasn't the alien mothership that everybody said it
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Speaker 3: was going to be. But and but it just it
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Speaker 3: just it's gone on about its way or is it
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Speaker 3: still so much?
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you getting me back on track. I'm good
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Speaker 2: excited to lose focus.
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Speaker 1: So discovered in July first it came closest to the
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Speaker 1: Earth in December, and so that there were a lot
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Speaker 1: of pictures were taken in December. It came by It
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Speaker 1: first came in by Mars, and the Mars reconnaissance took
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Speaker 1: some pictures of it, and then as it came it
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Speaker 1: came around the Sun, and then.
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Speaker 2: As it as it approached.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because it came around the Sun in October
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Speaker 1: and then the idea was based on the where the
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Speaker 1: worthy the Earth was. It was making its way out,
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Speaker 1: and so in December it it was the closest that
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Speaker 1: it was here and there were some images that were taking.
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Speaker 1: Now it's on its way to Jupiter. It's it's heading
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Speaker 1: out of the Solar system. And so really in the
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Speaker 1: spring basically March or so, it is going to go
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Speaker 1: by Jupiter.
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Speaker 2: And then it's heading out, it's leaving.
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Speaker 1: And so what has come of it, Well, it's not
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Speaker 1: necessarily over yet because there's still analysis because it's moved
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Speaker 1: out of the Sun's basically view, which was blurring everything.
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Speaker 1: There's hubble and a whole bunch of other telescopes, including
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Speaker 1: amateur astronomers, are taking pictures of it. But I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you brought up the idea of what what was made
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Speaker 1: of it. The big deal was it was it an
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Speaker 1: alien mothership? And the one primarily responsible for even the
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Speaker 1: topic is Avi Lobe, a Harvard astrophysicist, very brilliant guy
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Speaker 1: from again from Harvard. He he manages what's known as
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Speaker 1: the Galileo Project, and which is meant to again, they
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Speaker 1: have many telescopes, but one of them is to survey
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Speaker 1: this guy looking for potential extraterrestrial idea.
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Speaker 2: Or you know, or or things.
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Speaker 1: So he began to analyze some of the what he
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Speaker 1: called coincidentals or improbables, which led him to create what
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Speaker 1: he known. What he created was the Lobe scale. You know,
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Speaker 1: one being natural just normal, ten being it's a it's
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Speaker 1: an alien mothership. So that's kind of his uh. I
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Speaker 1: think I appreciate his openness to challenge the consensus of
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Speaker 1: the astrophysics community because many times they're so narrow. But
18:55
Speaker 1: I think also he's certainly, being director of the of
18:58
Speaker 1: the Galileo Project, he has a little bit of a bias.
19:00
Speaker 1: But again I appreciate that he's at least asking the conversation.
19:03
Speaker 1: So many of the things, the improbables that he brought up,
19:07
Speaker 1: led people, especially online, to go crazy, calling it a
19:10
Speaker 1: mothership aliens certain very odd, unusual quirks about.
19:16
Speaker 2: This particular object. But at the end of the day,
19:20
Speaker 2: what basically, if you read the critiques.
19:24
Speaker 1: Of him the astronomical community, there are relative answers to
19:29
Speaker 1: all of the things, the improbables that he brought up.
19:32
Speaker 1: And so as it's leaving, it's leaving, it's heading out
19:35
Speaker 1: like it was. It's coming in and went around the Sun,
19:37
Speaker 1: and it's leaving at a very high rate of speed.
19:40
Speaker 2: Which is unusual for normal solar system.
19:42
Speaker 1: Comments one hundred and forty thousand miles an hour, which
19:45
Speaker 1: is pretty fast.
19:46
Speaker 2: So what has come of it?
19:48
Speaker 1: It's to me, Brad, it'll be interesting that six months
19:52
Speaker 1: from now it'll be past Jupiter, it'll be heading out,
19:54
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll take a little while to get out
19:56
Speaker 1: of our solar system. But there's no doubt that if
20:00
Speaker 1: you go on YouTube, I mean, the gates were open.
20:05
Speaker 1: As it relates to sensationalism, it's certainly an other ship.
20:08
Speaker 1: People praying to it, New Age stuff. So the key
20:12
Speaker 1: thing here for us as Christians is you remember do
20:18
Speaker 1: you remember I think it was I believes in nineteen
20:21
Speaker 1: ninety seven Comet Hailpop.
20:23
Speaker 2: Remember the beautiful. I remember, I know where I was
20:26
Speaker 2: where I saw it. It was just beautiful my binoculars on
20:29
Speaker 2: my telescope.
20:30
Speaker 1: Well even back then, remember the people that killed themselves
20:33
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. They committed suicide because they thought it was
20:37
Speaker 1: a mother ship and they were going to join it.
20:39
Speaker 2: And so this is the this is the risk of
20:41
Speaker 2: deception in.
20:43
Speaker 1: Our world with the sensationalism that happened absolutely over something
20:47
Speaker 1: that is very natural.
20:50
Speaker 3: And I think as we're there's a theme in here
20:53
Speaker 3: that we're talking about today about hype versus.
20:55
Speaker 4: Hope, and hope grounds you.
20:58
Speaker 3: Hype will send you flying and off off the rails,
21:01
Speaker 3: and that that really takes us back to the to
21:06
Speaker 3: our our theme here about you know, there's a difference
21:09
Speaker 3: between hype versus hope because.
21:13
Speaker 4: Our hope is in Jesus Christ, and that grounds us.
21:16
Speaker 3: In in who we are and.
21:18
Speaker 4: What we're where we're going, and what we're doing right.
21:21
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, I mean, and this is where I mean.
21:25
Speaker 1: You're you're an eschatology guy, you know, as well as
21:28
Speaker 1: a pastor, so you know as as I am. So
21:31
Speaker 1: you have a broad we have a broad We're like
21:33
Speaker 1: general practitioners many times, uh, you know, in the sense
21:36
Speaker 1: of preaching, because yeah, we know what's in the Book
21:39
Speaker 1: of Hebrews, we know what's in Colossums. We teach all
21:42
Speaker 1: of the Bible, but you know, the the hobby is
21:45
Speaker 1: eschatology for me at least. And so but what we
21:48
Speaker 1: realize is in Matthew twenty four to four, the first
21:51
Speaker 1: thing he tells the disciples, it's amazing. The first thing
21:54
Speaker 1: he says is letting no one deceive you. Absolutely that
21:58
Speaker 1: the lead right out of the gate is there. The
22:00
Speaker 1: deception and the lack of discernment is going to be
22:03
Speaker 1: ubiquitous everywhere. And we need to avoid the sensationalism that
22:08
Speaker 1: is peering not only with people, but with social media,
22:11
Speaker 1: you name it, all over the place. We need to
22:13
Speaker 1: stay grounded in the word. We need to stay grounded
22:16
Speaker 1: in caution. We watch, but we're cautious. We test all things, right,
22:22
Speaker 1: Scripture says that test all things. So this is what
22:25
Speaker 1: I find is we're entering in this age, especially with
22:30
Speaker 1: the introduction of ai which obviously you wrote a book
22:33
Speaker 1: on it, and so the ability for the images that
22:37
Speaker 1: we see to be changed or to be completely fabricated
22:42
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. What's real anymore, so so important for
22:48
Speaker 1: us as Christians to be cautious with everything. People send
22:51
Speaker 1: me things all the time and I say, hey, hey,
22:52
Speaker 1: did you vet that?
22:54
Speaker 2: Did you see if?
22:56
Speaker 4: Who made it?
22:56
Speaker 2: Who created it? And anymore?
22:59
Speaker 1: Brad is kind of sad that sometimes I've come to
23:02
Speaker 1: the point where I almost only trust the things that
23:04
Speaker 1: I've taken myself absolutely.
23:07
Speaker 3: And we can also shift to the other side of
23:10
Speaker 3: the spectrum where we just where people are just baring
23:14
Speaker 3: their heads in the sand, and we're not using any
23:17
Speaker 3: discernment that way either. So that's why we you know,
23:22
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring you on because you have such
23:24
Speaker 3: a great idea of how to find balance in this
23:29
Speaker 3: and not only with scripture, but also looking at the
23:32
Speaker 3: heaven LEAs, because we can look at the heaven leaves
23:34
Speaker 3: and we can, as as you have with the Psalm
23:37
Speaker 3: nineteen project, the heavens declare the glory of God. So
23:40
Speaker 3: by looking at the heavens, we're reminded of where our
23:45
Speaker 3: hope is. And one of the things that we're seeing,
23:48
Speaker 3: and I've been reading about coming up, is there's going
23:50
Speaker 3: to be a supernova. Some reports I've read says that
23:54
Speaker 3: we'll be able to see it in daytime.
23:57
Speaker 4: That's quite amazing.
23:59
Speaker 1: Well, this is the so this is kind of the
24:03
Speaker 1: challenge is if I've seen articles too, and and you
24:07
Speaker 1: see the headlines, but it's it's not necessarily going to
24:11
Speaker 1: be a supernova.
24:12
Speaker 2: It's just going to be a nova.
24:14
Speaker 1: And so there's a there's a big difference because a supernova,
24:17
Speaker 1: as you said, is something that is is magnificent.
24:19
Speaker 2: It's the basic difference between a supernova and nova.
24:23
Speaker 1: Is a nova, you know, in Latin just means new, right,
24:26
Speaker 1: and and so it's it's a new star. The reason
24:29
Speaker 1: they use that language is because of star brightens. So
24:31
Speaker 1: a nova in this particular case with this this one,
24:34
Speaker 1: the and the saget To constellation which is right near Signus.
24:39
Speaker 2: The Northern Cross. It's it's a very beautiful area.
24:43
Speaker 1: Primarily you can see it mostly in the summer. But
24:46
Speaker 1: so what what they see here is there they have
24:49
Speaker 1: this white dwarf star. It's it's a binary star, which
24:51
Speaker 1: most actually star systems are. So it's this white dwarf
24:54
Speaker 1: star that is sucking, sucking its companion star all the
24:58
Speaker 1: the all the mass over and it's basically draining its
25:04
Speaker 1: companion star. But what it does though is by draining
25:07
Speaker 1: that it'll brighten, and so as it brightens, sometimes it'll
25:11
Speaker 1: it'll brighten and then it goes it goes back and
25:14
Speaker 1: it sometimes these things can go over decades. Well, with
25:17
Speaker 1: this particular white dwarf star, they're seeing it and they're
25:20
Speaker 1: watching it, but they think that the true nova event
25:25
Speaker 1: where it'll potentially be able to be seen, maybe even
25:29
Speaker 1: in the day with particular equipment, but certainly at night.
25:33
Speaker 1: There the idea is is they think it'll go as
25:35
Speaker 1: bright as Serious, which is the brightest star in the
25:37
Speaker 1: sky near the Orion constellation. But here again where there's
25:43
Speaker 1: a lot of hype because it's not going to be
25:45
Speaker 1: a super nova. It's just gonna be a nova, because
25:49
Speaker 1: a supernova will destroy the star.
25:51
Speaker 2: This is simply just.
25:52
Speaker 1: Grabbing some from the neighbor. But they say, well, when's
25:55
Speaker 1: this gonna happen, Well, it could happen in the next century.
25:59
Speaker 1: Like wait a minute, So I read this article and
26:03
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I going to stay up tonight to
26:05
Speaker 1: see it? Like it's it's going to be potentially fifty
26:08
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty years off.
26:11
Speaker 4: Wow.
26:12
Speaker 1: So this is this is where we have to be
26:15
Speaker 1: careful with clickbait and the language because we click and
26:21
Speaker 1: we're like, oh my gosh. And then how often have
26:23
Speaker 1: we read the title of the article that we read
26:25
Speaker 1: in the main body and we're like, that said nothing
26:28
Speaker 1: about what the title said. So this is again another
26:33
Speaker 1: example of clickbait.
26:36
Speaker 2: Sadly, well with that, let's move.
26:40
Speaker 3: To another star that's a little closer to us, our
26:42
Speaker 3: own son. And another thing we always read about are
26:47
Speaker 3: solar flares, and you know these X class solar flares
26:50
Speaker 3: or so on, and you know there's warnings. Now there is,
26:53
Speaker 3: there is some there is some credence right to what
26:56
Speaker 3: can happen with solar flares and how they affect.
26:59
Speaker 4: Our our you know, our the Earth.
27:07
Speaker 3: There is let me let me rephrase that, there is
27:10
Speaker 3: some credence.
27:10
Speaker 4: To what.
27:12
Speaker 3: The solar flares bring and how they can affect life
27:16
Speaker 3: here on Earth. Can you explain a little bit more
27:18
Speaker 3: about the solar flares.
27:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is phenomenal because the Sun has a normal
27:24
Speaker 1: eleven year cycle.
27:25
Speaker 2: We have solar filters in solar telescopes.
27:30
Speaker 1: We took some great images last year at the eclipse,
27:33
Speaker 1: which we well we can talk about as well, but
27:36
Speaker 1: so normal eleven year cycle. So it goes from a
27:40
Speaker 1: minimum up to a maximum and then it comes back
27:44
Speaker 1: down to the minimum over eleven years, or you can
27:47
Speaker 1: start at the maximum whatever. So within that eleven year
27:50
Speaker 1: cycle you have the ups and downs. Well, the last
27:54
Speaker 1: minimum was around twenty nineteen, and so the high point
27:59
Speaker 1: then it was between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,
28:03
Speaker 1: which is beautiful to look at through a telescope because
28:07
Speaker 1: you can see the sunspot. That usually the minimum and
28:11
Speaker 1: the maximum you can determine it based on the amount
28:13
Speaker 1: of sunspots that are being recorded, and so in twenty
28:17
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five that was the highest and
28:19
Speaker 1: we're still we're still making our way down, we're starting
28:23
Speaker 1: to decline.
28:24
Speaker 2: But what's crazy now, Brad, is that.
28:28
Speaker 1: One of the most well known was known as the
28:30
Speaker 1: Carrington Event eighteen fifty nine. It was this massive solar
28:35
Speaker 1: flare which was the biggest solar flares you have. There's
28:39
Speaker 1: different levels is an X and one of the biggest
28:42
Speaker 1: is is X ten.
28:43
Speaker 2: Well this was.
28:44
Speaker 1: Greater than an X ten and even at that time
28:47
Speaker 1: it caused massive what we call northern lights, not northern
28:50
Speaker 1: anymore because they're normally normally only seen over the North
28:54
Speaker 1: Pole and down you know, maybe into Canada in a round,
28:58
Speaker 1: but these came all the way down and so it disrupted.
29:02
Speaker 1: Back at that time the technology, which was telegrams and
29:05
Speaker 1: other electrical things. Well, the difference being is that right
29:09
Speaker 1: now we're in an age of massive amounts of technology satellites,
29:14
Speaker 1: and so if you were to have something like that today,
29:17
Speaker 1: it would take down the power grid itself because of
29:20
Speaker 1: the electrical storm that it would produce, and you would
29:24
Speaker 1: imagine it would fry a lot of the satellites. I mean,
29:26
Speaker 1: you know Starlink elon Musk. Starlink itself has almost ten
29:29
Speaker 1: thousand satellites, and then if you think about all the
29:32
Speaker 1: other weather satellites and military satellites, that's one of the risks,
29:36
Speaker 1: that's one of the challenges that is happening right now.
29:39
Speaker 1: And so what we're seeing is there's no doubt I
29:42
Speaker 1: find it interesting too, so that if you look at
29:44
Speaker 1: the next cycle, the next cycle of high point is
29:48
Speaker 1: going to be right around twenty thirty four, twenty thirty five.
29:52
Speaker 1: So people can run with those dates if they want,
29:54
Speaker 1: as it relates to all the other things.
29:56
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, what you see in the.
30:01
Speaker 1: In the in the again in the book revelation is
30:04
Speaker 1: the Sun turning dark or the sun I would say
30:07
Speaker 1: the Sun going bright, the Sun turning nova as as
30:09
Speaker 1: I mentioned that a star will go nova. We see
30:12
Speaker 1: in Revelation sixteen that one of the bold judgments is
30:16
Speaker 1: people getting burned because the radiance of the Sun's heat
30:21
Speaker 1: and energy is expanding and turning brighter, and so people
30:25
Speaker 1: getting burned and having to get out. It's it's very astronomical.
30:29
Speaker 1: It's part of the natural world. But yet there's no
30:32
Speaker 1: doubt the Book of Revelation is describing supernatural events where
30:36
Speaker 1: God basically kickstarts some of these natural events to happen.
30:41
Speaker 3: Okay, So uh, with with these solar flares, do we
30:47
Speaker 3: is there concern about them?
30:48
Speaker 4: Are are the are the.
30:51
Speaker 3: The odds of something like this happening remain very low
30:55
Speaker 3: for us?
30:58
Speaker 4: Are what are we? Are we seeing the precursors to
31:01
Speaker 4: what could be? What? Revelation sixteen talks about what do
31:03
Speaker 4: you think?
31:04
Speaker 1: Well, the when you get to Revelation, the question is,
31:10
Speaker 1: and this is a theological question.
31:13
Speaker 2: So you're a pastor, Okay.
31:16
Speaker 1: Is God doing something supernatural or is he's Is he
31:20
Speaker 1: planned it from the beginning of time? For these natural
31:23
Speaker 1: events to occur at the specific time that he wants.
31:26
Speaker 1: It's like Joshua ten with the sun standing still or
31:31
Speaker 1: you know. It says there that basically meteorites were killing
31:35
Speaker 1: It says more people were killed by meteorites than they
31:39
Speaker 1: were by the people of Joshua.
31:40
Speaker 2: So you have all these meteorites coming out of the sky. Well,
31:43
Speaker 2: God obviously put those.
31:45
Speaker 1: In orbit and the specific trajectory to land at a
31:48
Speaker 1: very specific and it hit a person.
31:49
Speaker 2: Okay.
31:50
Speaker 1: So so the question then is when we nevertheless, what
31:53
Speaker 1: we see in the book Revelation, is God Jesus the
31:57
Speaker 1: one that is opening the seal. The time is now,
31:59
Speaker 1: you know when he does that, So there's no doubt
32:02
Speaker 1: as it relates currently, I think astronomers are looking at
32:06
Speaker 1: the solar cycles beginning to decline. Even though we had
32:08
Speaker 1: a solar flare just a couple of weeks ago that
32:11
Speaker 1: provided some you know, northern lights bringing it was.
32:14
Speaker 2: A pretty big solar flare.
32:15
Speaker 1: So I think they're watching and going, well, we're heading
32:18
Speaker 1: down now. So I think for them they're going to
32:20
Speaker 1: be glad because if you go three years from now
32:23
Speaker 1: at the solar minimum, let's say, or four years, Musk
32:28
Speaker 1: is probably going to have thirty thousand satellites up, So
32:34
Speaker 1: what does that look like for the next solar maximum
32:36
Speaker 1: again around that twenty thirty four timeframe.
32:40
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy.
32:42
Speaker 3: It's amazing to watch, and I'm glad we have people
32:46
Speaker 3: like you to understand this a little more to help
32:49
Speaker 3: bring some good clarity to it.
32:51
Speaker 4: So thank you.
32:53
Speaker 3: On the other sky object that we often talk about
32:57
Speaker 3: is the moon, and you mentioned earlier there's a lot
33:00
Speaker 3: of hype about blood moons and eclipses and so on,
33:04
Speaker 3: and we're going to experience a couple significant events this year.
33:07
Speaker 4: I think they're they're going to be well worth watching.
33:12
Speaker 3: But first of all, every blood moon isn't an indicator
33:16
Speaker 3: that the rapture is going to occur.
33:18
Speaker 1: Uh.
33:19
Speaker 3: Second of all, blood moons do have significance, and God
33:23
Speaker 3: uses the moons, so it uses the moon to help
33:28
Speaker 3: and has used the moon to help proclaim things. What's
33:32
Speaker 3: going on this year with the moon?
33:34
Speaker 2: Yeah? The Uh so there there are always lunar eclipses.
33:40
Speaker 1: They're they're pretty consistent in they're they're more regular than
33:44
Speaker 1: what people might think. And so you have lunar eclipses
33:47
Speaker 1: happening and you're like, okay, you have another solar clips.
33:52
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily over America, but there's you can go
33:56
Speaker 1: fly to these.
33:57
Speaker 2: Uh.
33:57
Speaker 1: I think the next one is is going to be
33:59
Speaker 1: in Egypt. I might be wrong on that, but I
34:02
Speaker 1: remember seeing an ad Is like, hey, I wouldn't mind
34:04
Speaker 1: going to Egypt because it's going to be like six
34:06
Speaker 1: or seven minutes.
34:07
Speaker 4: So you were just there not too long ago.
34:10
Speaker 2: I was actually here, which was pretty cool.
34:13
Speaker 1: And so you have the Bible talks about the month
34:17
Speaker 1: the moon turning red blood red, which again most of
34:22
Speaker 1: the time, depending on the time of the year or
34:26
Speaker 1: the time of day.
34:27
Speaker 2: Even that you see the lunar eclips, you'll see.
34:30
Speaker 1: Where the light basically the moon, that the Earth is
34:34
Speaker 1: between the Sun and the moon, and the light from
34:37
Speaker 1: the Sun is going around the edges of the Earth
34:41
Speaker 1: through the atmosphere, and then it's the lightest is basically
34:43
Speaker 1: being shifted to the red, which is why the moon
34:47
Speaker 1: terns red. It's very predictable. Sometimes some are more red
34:50
Speaker 1: than others. If there's been a volcano, or there's been
34:53
Speaker 1: you know, certain maybe pollution or dust storms, you'll see it,
34:57
Speaker 1: you know, basically magnified. But there's other times when it
35:03
Speaker 1: says the sun will not give its light, and the
35:06
Speaker 1: moon will not give its light, and so this isn't
35:09
Speaker 1: just a normal lunar eclipse. This is because without if
35:14
Speaker 1: the sun goes dark, there is no there is no
35:17
Speaker 1: light from the sun from the moon.
35:19
Speaker 2: It's just dark. So and the stars going dark.
35:21
Speaker 1: So to me, there's a whole bunch of things happening
35:23
Speaker 1: in the book Revelation which are beyond the normal cycles.
35:29
Speaker 1: These aren't just a normal lunar eclipse. And so when
35:32
Speaker 1: you talk about blood moons, there's been in history. The
35:36
Speaker 1: reason why that became very important. I remember, I remember
35:40
Speaker 1: around two thousand and eight I was looking at the
35:42
Speaker 1: blood moon phenomenon and I did not write a book
35:45
Speaker 1: on it, which mainly because I was I was actually
35:50
Speaker 1: I researched it, and I'm like, well, this doesn't really
35:54
Speaker 1: plan play out, because what I was looking for was
35:58
Speaker 1: blood moons that happened on Jewish feasts, because for example,
36:03
Speaker 1: Passover is always a full moon, which a full moon is.
36:07
Speaker 2: When you have a lunar eclipse.
36:09
Speaker 1: And so I began to look at all these in history,
36:12
Speaker 1: and it was very cool to do this, you know,
36:15
Speaker 1: But if you looked at like, for example, a tet
36:18
Speaker 1: trad that's usually the tet trad is four. So you
36:22
Speaker 1: see where, for example, there was a tet trad of
36:25
Speaker 1: blood moons solar eclipses that happened on Jewish feasts back
36:30
Speaker 1: in fourteen ninety three and fourteen ninety four, and so
36:33
Speaker 1: I thought, well, that's interesting, But it happened after fourteen
36:38
Speaker 1: ninety two, when all the Jews were expelled from Spain
36:42
Speaker 1: and Columbus discovered the New World. So I thought, well,
36:44
Speaker 1: that happened afterwards, so it wasn't a predictor. Well, then
36:48
Speaker 1: the next one happened in nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty,
36:51
Speaker 1: which we know was when. It wasn't nineteen forty seven
36:55
Speaker 1: predicting the establishment of the State of Israel, it was
36:58
Speaker 1: after after. So I was like, well that doesn't Again,
37:02
Speaker 1: wasn't a predictor of anything. And so I think that again,
37:05
Speaker 1: that doesn't really help. And then the next one was
37:07
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven and sixty eight, which again was
37:11
Speaker 1: just right after the Sixth Day War, Right, I thought, well,
37:18
Speaker 1: again it was not a predictor.
37:19
Speaker 2: It would have been really neat. I'll tell you what,
37:21
Speaker 2: Brad if.
37:23
Speaker 1: At this time I don't remember anybody else looking at it.
37:25
Speaker 2: If it would have happened before, I would have wrote
37:28
Speaker 2: I would have wrote a book on it.
37:29
Speaker 4: Yes, I would have helped you.
37:32
Speaker 1: Exactly because I thought wow, And so I remember looking
37:35
Speaker 1: at it, and I thought, well, the next one's going
37:36
Speaker 1: to happen in basically twenty fourteen and fifteen. But since
37:40
Speaker 1: it wasn't a it didn't happen before those events, I
37:44
Speaker 1: just was like, well, it's not.
37:45
Speaker 2: A predictory event. And so sure enough.
37:47
Speaker 1: But you know others have written about this, you know,
37:51
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, John Hagen, others.
37:54
Speaker 2: And they obviously sold a lot of books. But what
37:58
Speaker 2: happened in twenty fourteen and fifteen nothing nothing, well.
38:03
Speaker 3: And the and the basic idea is also that the
38:06
Speaker 3: Jewish calendar is a moon cycle calendar, so there's going
38:11
Speaker 3: to be a lot of there's going to be a
38:13
Speaker 3: lot of connections there too, don't right, I mean, it's
38:15
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of there's going to be some correlations there.
38:20
Speaker 3: And also revelation talk, I think to your go back
38:24
Speaker 3: to your point you made. What John was seeing were
38:28
Speaker 3: things that were happening outside of the norm, above the
38:31
Speaker 3: norm of what we normally see Uh. And and there's
38:35
Speaker 3: how there's a number of eclipses that happen every every year,
38:41
Speaker 3: and there's a number of you know, type of blood
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Speaker 3: moons that can happen every year. So, uh, what gets
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Speaker 3: all the hype?
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Speaker 2: How?
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Speaker 3: How how do people who are watching, how do we
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Speaker 3: how do they sift between the hype and the truth?
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Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate that because last year, as we know,
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Speaker 1: there was I remember watching the solar eclipse that came
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Speaker 1: across America in twenty seventeen August of twenty seventeen. I
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Speaker 1: was living in the Northwest Pacific, Northwest and it came
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Speaker 1: right through there.
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Speaker 2: And then of course we had the eclipse of twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four.
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Speaker 1: And so now the hype that was going on, it
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Speaker 1: created the shadow or these the clipse mart line created
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Speaker 1: an X over over the United States and X marks
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Speaker 1: the spots the United States is going down.
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Speaker 2: It's a judgment.
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Speaker 1: And I remember writing at the time that prior to
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Speaker 1: this is do not fall into the hype. I mean
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Speaker 1: there were people that were that were just you can't
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Speaker 1: this is beyond coinns.
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Speaker 2: That's that's their favorite phase. You can't make this up.
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Speaker 1: This is beyond coincidence, and yet it came and it went,
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Speaker 1: and what happened nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, And yet millions
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Speaker 1: upon millions of views and hints and YouTube and everything
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Speaker 1: else and clickbait, and so here again afterwards, the mocking
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Speaker 1: of the prophecy people, m h.
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Speaker 2: Was just vicious.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, the people that were making the predictions,
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Speaker 1: you know, they earned that, They earned the viciousness. Now
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Speaker 1: and so when again it hurt the cause of Christ,
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Speaker 1: because when you look in the Bible, and I wrote
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Speaker 1: an article people can find it on our website on
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Speaker 1: Prophecy watchers dot com, where I simply just asked the question,
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Speaker 1: what in the Bible ever do you see where an
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Speaker 1: eclipse is a normal eclipse is used as an omen
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Speaker 1: and it's not the word itself. Nowhere in the Bible
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Speaker 1: does it show the normal pattern of astronomical events.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful.
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Speaker 1: The eclipse is beautiful, whether it's a lunary eclipse or
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Speaker 1: a solar eclipse. Now, what the Bible does say in
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah ten, verse two is Jeremiah says, the Pagans, the
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Speaker 1: pagan religions, they use these eclipses and these roomical events
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Speaker 1: as omens to control you. And he says don't be
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Speaker 1: like the pagan nations. So anybody that says that God
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Speaker 1: uses these normal natural events as a sign of omens
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Speaker 1: or destructions is simply being unbiblical.
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Speaker 2: God doesn't do that nowhere.
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Speaker 1: That's why it's important to say in the book or revelation,
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Speaker 1: these are not natural, normal events. It's not normal for
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Speaker 1: the moon to be blood red, when the sun is dark,
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Speaker 1: the sun is as black as sacloth. Those are all
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Speaker 1: out of the normal events, and that's why they're relatively supernatural.
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Speaker 1: With the sun is burning or the sun is going dark,
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Speaker 1: God pours out darkness on the beast of the kingdom
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Speaker 1: or the kingdom of the beast. Those aren't normal. That's very,
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Speaker 1: very unusual. And so this is why it's important where
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Speaker 1: I think, for us to be discerning not get sucked
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Speaker 1: into the hype again. The Holy eclipsysteria of twenty seventeen
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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, what it came in went and
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Speaker 1: you asked what was it?
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Speaker 3: And I think there was one in twenty twenty right
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Speaker 3: when right in the middle of COVID and everybody was
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Speaker 3: losing their mind over that one too. You know what
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Speaker 3: reminds Memando is when I look at stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: How perfectly God put the universe together. You know, the
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Speaker 3: sun rises every day and the sun sets every day,
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Speaker 3: and the moon is there, it has his cycles. God
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Speaker 3: put everything in perfect sequence. And how you know with
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Speaker 3: there are laws that are in place that God, as God,
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Speaker 3: formed the universe that if things were off just by
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Speaker 3: just a half a degree here or a little percentage there,
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Speaker 3: the whole universe would practically fly apart. But there was
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Speaker 3: such precision made with such intelligence that we look at that,
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Speaker 3: and as Psalm nineteen says, the heavens declare the glory
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Speaker 3: of the Lord. And I don't know if the Psalmists
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Speaker 3: really understood the significance of what he was writing when
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Speaker 3: he wrote that. And as we have come to understand
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Speaker 3: the natural world even more, what an amazing time to live.
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Speaker 3: We have technology that's giving us more opportunities to see
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Speaker 3: things in greater detail. I love going to your website
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Speaker 3: and just seeing your latest work. It just it blows
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Speaker 3: me away. And every time I do I and I
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Speaker 3: got the I got the website there in front of me,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Wow, Lord, thank you for this. And we
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Speaker 3: can look at moon cycles, we can look at sun
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Speaker 3: cycles and and everything and everything is made with precision.
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Speaker 4: We got to wrap this up.
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Speaker 3: We could talk about this forever, and I know you
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Speaker 3: could too, because it's one of your passions. Let's let's
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Speaker 3: land this on some hope for people that are have
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Speaker 3: been buying into this hype before and they feel like
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Speaker 3: they've been let down. The youtubefits have have tried to
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Speaker 3: sell all this to get clicks and stuff. What do
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Speaker 3: you say to somebody that's like man mondo, I just
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Speaker 3: I keep hearing all this stuff, and I keep getting
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Speaker 3: excited and everything. Every time I hear this, nothing comes together,
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Speaker 3: nothing happens, and I just don't know what to do anymore.
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Speaker 4: Where's the hope?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think that this is where the Lord would tell us,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't don't be deceived, that deception is going
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Speaker 1: to get worse and worse. And just the amount of
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Speaker 1: different viewpoints out there, and the amount of just bombardment
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Speaker 1: that we see in social media, and again we're in
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Speaker 1: the age of AI.
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Speaker 2: So what is there? I think the hope comes back
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Speaker 2: to number one. We know that that there are going to.
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Speaker 1: Be supernatural cosmic events. Clearly that you read the book
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Speaker 1: or revelation. You know, they're they're Apophas that the people
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Speaker 1: talk of Apophas as example, and just you know, it's
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Speaker 1: coming back in twenty twenty nine, and you know there's
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Speaker 1: been a lot of writings about it, and I would
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Speaker 1: just say stay cautious, you know, don't get sucked in
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Speaker 1: any predictions about any of these things. Apophesi is coming,
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Speaker 1: It's April thirteenth to twenty twenty nine, and then twenty
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Speaker 1: thirty six, it's coming back, so amongst many others. But
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Speaker 1: I think for us, we stay rooted in the scripture,
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Speaker 1: we stay rooted in the reality of the events.
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Speaker 2: We don't deny the reality of these cosmic events.
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Speaker 1: But I think that the challenge that we have is
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Speaker 1: not necessarily to assign any specific meaning or predictive meaning
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Speaker 1: to any of these except in general. So the hope
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Speaker 1: is found in the truth of scripture. It's found in
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Speaker 1: our relationship with the Lord. I mean, the key thing
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Speaker 1: is is Jesus said, seek first the Kingdom in God's righteousness,
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Speaker 1: and God will take care of the rest. And so
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Speaker 1: I think if we keep the gospel first, we will
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Speaker 1: continue to grow in that we continue to share the
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Speaker 1: Gospel with those around us. But also I enjoy being
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Speaker 1: I enjoy learning as much as I can and try
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Speaker 1: to be as well equipped as I can about as
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Speaker 1: many topics that interest me. Why because when I talk
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Speaker 1: about Him, I can then use those to bring it
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Speaker 1: back to the gospel. Because you know, you could talk
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Speaker 1: about I love archaeology, so you could talk to about
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Speaker 1: people in the archaeological world that maybe aren't saved, or
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Speaker 1: in the astronomical world, and there's no doubt there's people
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Speaker 1: that love astrophotography. So I go in there and I
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Speaker 1: could talk to him about it, and we could talk
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Speaker 1: about all the technology and everything.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: But then you can point him, you know who created that,
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Speaker 1: right got God's a creator, and look at our project
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Speaker 1: of what we're doing. But the hope, as we know,
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Speaker 1: is ultimately found in the one who created all, and
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Speaker 1: that he has a purpose, He has a plan. As
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, the precision of all these these orbital mechanics
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Speaker 1: and laws are phenomenal for what He has done. And
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Speaker 1: that is this brings this comfort because over and over
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Speaker 1: God tells us to look at the heavens, look at
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Speaker 1: the seasons, and just say I made those, and nothing's
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Speaker 1: out of my control, nothing's outside of my sovereignty, and
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Speaker 1: that gives me comfort and hope.
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Speaker 3: So it's good that we serve a God who who
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Speaker 3: is stable.
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Speaker 4: He's not just he's not.
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Speaker 3: Living in heaven by the seat of his pants, just
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Speaker 3: pacing around wondering what he's going to do or how
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Speaker 3: he's going to how he's going to keep the stars together.
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Speaker 3: He has in his power is doing all these things.
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Speaker 3: If you're finding yourself just chasing, you know so many
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Speaker 3: different things. You hear people on on YouTube, or you
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Speaker 3: hear people here or there talking.
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Speaker 4: And you just don't know what to believe.
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Speaker 3: Reach out to somebody you can trust, reach out to
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Speaker 3: prophecy watchers and ask, hey, I heard this on YouTube.
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Speaker 4: What do you guys think is?
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Speaker 3: Or you can reach out to me or your or
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Speaker 3: your pastor but you know, this book is what we
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Speaker 3: hold onto.
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Speaker 2: It is uh.
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Speaker 3: It is where we we, it's where we stand, it's
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Speaker 3: where we sit, it's where we rest. And uh when
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Speaker 3: when we start adding stuff to that or exploring outside
47:58
Speaker 3: of that is where we find ourselves. And a lot
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Speaker 3: of we get ourselves in a lot of problems. But
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Speaker 3: at the same time, we're not going to hide our
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Speaker 3: heads in the sand either and just kind of pretend
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Speaker 3: like nothing's happening. Mondo has been a great conversation today.
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Speaker 3: I again, I could talk to you for hours and
48:16
Speaker 3: it just find it fascinating. We'll have to have you
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Speaker 3: back on again really soon before we close. Where can
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Speaker 3: people find you? How can people get a hold of you?
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Speaker 3: And what's coming up next for Prophecy Watchers.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate Brad. It's it's been great being here and
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Speaker 1: profsy Watchers to come. If you go there, you can
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Speaker 1: just see access to all the different places we are again.
48:36
Speaker 1: Profts Watchers has a pretty big footprint, television, radio, social media,
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Speaker 1: you name it. And the next thing up for us
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Speaker 1: is we have an Israel trip planned in May and
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Speaker 1: that'll be good as well as our upcoming conference in June,
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Speaker 1: June fourth through seven.
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Speaker 2: The title of the theme is the Rapture in the Rockies.
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Speaker 1: We're hoping that we're raptures while we're in the Rockies
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Speaker 1: then and not a prediction, but I hope and so
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Speaker 1: people can check that out. Of course they can show up,
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Speaker 1: which will be great. It's gonna be it's gonna be,
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Speaker 1: you know, a nice time certainly in Colorado. But there
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Speaker 1: will be a live stream option as well. But here
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Speaker 1: we are, we're twenty twenty six, Brad. As you know,
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Speaker 1: things are heating up. We've got we got something called
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Speaker 1: the Board of Peace. Now we've got potential war with
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Speaker 1: iron I mean here we are. We get front row
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Speaker 1: seats to be able to share of all that God
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Speaker 1: is doing, and he's bringing it to a point, the
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Speaker 1: point of the return of Jesus, which is what we want.
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Speaker 4: He is and we are watching this.
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Speaker 3: It's it's amazing days they'll be living in just to
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Speaker 3: watch how these things happen. There are foreshadows, they're birthing pains. Uh,
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Speaker 3: there's there's set up and you can go to prophecy
49:46
Speaker 3: Watchers for trusted understanding of how these things are formulating
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Speaker 3: because there's no.
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Speaker 4: Hype behind that.
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Speaker 3: It's it's grounded solidly in the Word of God. And
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Speaker 3: also the same here in coming Zoon ministries. We're here
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Speaker 3: to point p well back to scripture, back to the
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Speaker 3: hope in Jesus Christ. And that's why I love partnering
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Speaker 3: with prophecy Watchers so much.
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Speaker 4: Mondo.
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Speaker 3: Thanks again for having for being on with me today,
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Speaker 3: and I hope I can join you guys in the
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Speaker 3: studio again sometime. Until then, I will see you in Colorado,
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Speaker 3: by the way, So until then, UH hang in there
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Speaker 3: and enjoy the enjoy this brisk winter events we're having,
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Speaker 3: and we'll see you guys again soon. Tell everybody at
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