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Weirdo GM Gets His Dad Called On Him: Ep. 186 · Sessions Canceled

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  Internet. The GM got caught in a Reddit
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  Horror Story and we all saw it and yeah, we can't.
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  We can't associate with him anymore.
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  It wasn't our game. It was a different game.
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  He was jamming for, you know, and then, but then we found out
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  through the Grapevine and we, we read the post and it was, it
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  was, it was Yikes. Bro, you want to talk about
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  reading the post I OK, so for some reason the Internet just
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  refuses to not give me Crispy's Tavern videos.
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  And I watched the whole satin Phoenix, the Jameson Stone
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  thing. Jeez.
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  Christ brother, it got it got the.
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  It got so bad the whole way, so deep.
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  I forgot, man, it's been so long since that happened.
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  Man. She really?
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  You want to talk about someone who really legitimately got
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  cancelled? Yeah.
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  Oh, she's trying to come back. Apparently she was delete.
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  I don't think it's going to work, but she was fucking
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  deleted from existence. I I literally haven't heard
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  about that fucking Jameson dude. Wasn't she?
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  Wasn't she, didn't she work on like a third party book with
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  Wizards or something at one point?
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  Not with Wizards that book as far as I'm aware, despite being
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  crowdfunded for $300,000. I'm I'm pretty sure they said in
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  the video that it hasn't come out.
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  Shocker. And it's.
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  Been years. Wasn't there she was working
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  with Wizards in some capacity. I feel like like like like sort
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  of official officially hired or semi officially hired situation.
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  But I, I. Could be wrong about that.
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  She kind of did some like some of the stuff that Matt was doing
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  with Wizards where it was like G Ms. Guide stuff.
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  Or no, that was. That wasn't wizard, that was
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  Geek and Sundry. Ah, maybe that's what I'm
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  thinking of. Maybe that's what I'm thinking
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  of. Yeah, Yeah, No, she was like all
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  over the place. And then.
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  Bye. And.
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  Then the twit longer came out. Yeah, which by the way, man, you
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  know, crazy, but she's really not to get too deep into it, but
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  she's really perpetuating the stereotype, as it were, by being
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  a person who was abused that then goes on to abuse.
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  Oh yeah, It's like, God damn, dude.
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  Because she has a whole fucking history with her.
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  I think it was her dad. I remember I remember seeing a
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  video where she went into her tragic back story but I never
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  ended up watching it so I. A tragic back story.
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  When it's somebody's actual life, it is I.
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  Brother, I mean, fair enough. I don't know, it just feels like
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  a literal, like a literal like sense of word.
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  Tragic back story. It is a literal example, but God
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  damn. You booing me?
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  I'm I. Mean, I know you are.
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  I just don't like. I just don't like saying it that
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  way. Wow, wow.
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  If anyone's curious what the fuck we're talking about, look
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  up, I don't know, Satine Phoenix cancelled or something along
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  those lines. Just the controversy.
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  Controversy. Yes, Satine.
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  How did she spell it again? SATINE.
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  That's what. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Oh, man.
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  Yeah. Yep.
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  Wasn't she? Was she?
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  She was the one who was the porn star, too, right?
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  Yes, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Which didn't help the situation. Not that it was relevant to the
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  the like emotional abuse part, but didn't help the dog piling
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  afterward. No, yeah, I mean it, definitely.
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  Because people use it as, you know, ammo.
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  Yeah, brother, I saw, I saw some of the comments people, some of
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  the screenshots on that that like Instagram live thing she
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  did were brutal. Even I was like, man, fuck this
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  chick. But like my guy, think think
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  back, think back to to trash taste when when Joey was talking
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  about two Chan and he was like, is this really something another
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  human being says to another person?
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  That's the energy. Yeah.
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  I mean, yeah, people say some fucking weird shit and they the
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  problem is people be taking some weird digs like creator or
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  whatever does a bad thing and then people take digs at them
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  completely unrelated to the bad thing.
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  You know, they'll be like, the creator stole money and they'll
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  be like, also, you're a fat piece of shit.
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  It's like, all right, well, that's not.
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  Related to, we don't have to. Throw that in there.
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  It's like, yeah, yeah, embezzlement.
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  Also, you're ugly and you're like.
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  You're like, hey, all right, what the fuck?
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  Let's let's focus on the embezzlement here.
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  That's literally what happens during the completionist, by the
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  way. Yeah, no, I know.
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  Can I just say? That's that one was particularly
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  weird for me because like as it like I've always known Gerard,
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  but I but I never watched completion of stuff, but he's
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  friends with Jesse Cox and he was also on the podcast.
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  I listen to friends per second, which is set up by skill up.
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  If you know that YouTube. I don't and I don't know them
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  now. Oh, you should watch Skill Up.
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  He's very good, Very good. He's a really good reviewer.
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  But anyway, that whole thing happened and on Jesse's channel
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  they had Scary Game Squad and Gerard just mysteriously wasn't
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  there anymore and they just like, didn't bring it up.
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  And then on Friends Per Second, they were like, you, Gerard's
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  not going to be on the show anymore anyway, moving on.
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  And you're just like, yeah. That one kind of reminds me of
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  the oh God, what's his name, Critical Role.
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  Not Orion. Not Orion.
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  Not Orion. I don't know.
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  Brian W Foster. Oh.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, that was a bad one. A part of me wants to look up
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  the litigation going on with that, but I also like I feel
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  like I should really respect these people's privacy, but I'd
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  be lying if I said the the curiosity didn't.
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  Yeah, I was almost. Taking a hold of me.
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  If I didn't want the tea. I'd look, yeah, I mean, it's a
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  natural. It's a natural reaction.
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  I want to know what the fuck is going on.
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  But like, yeah, I specifically have been like, no, I need to
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  not do this. These people deserve privacy, as
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  much privacy as Internet celebrities can have.
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  I feel like we owe it to them, especially Ashley.
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  As much as they can have. Yeah.
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  Good point. Yeah, that's.
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  Yeah, anyway, you know, it, it might seem like we're bringing
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  up a completely unrelated topic, but we're sort of on topic
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  already. We are, yeah, I mean, sort of
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  kind of way. Privacy violations T on the
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  Internet horror stories is all on topic, baby.
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  Yeah, it's all on topic, baby, because we're about to hit that.
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  We're about to hit that low brow content today, baby, we're going
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  to read some RPG horror stories. We're getting sloppy I.
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  Know we were calling it that, but like it's not, I don't know.
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  I feel like there is a level of quality.
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  It's a reading horror stories even though it is kind of a meme
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  at this point. Yeah, but like, we're not going
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  to do that. But I I'm not here for quality.
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  I'm here. For sloppy.
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  So when like when like Jacobs does it or when crit crab does
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  it, that's quality. But what we're doing, this is
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  pure Pulp Fiction, baby. I mean, they get a little sloppy
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  with it too. I feel like Crit Crab in
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  particular, really just, he just turns him out.
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  It's such a pace. It's like God damn dude.
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  I don't even know where he finds.
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  All these fucking things. Usually it's Reddit as far as
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  I'm aware also. I know, but like the the amount
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  he finds. I cannot say a fucking thing
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  against crit crab. That dude got me through working
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  at one of the shittiest jobs I've ever worked in my life.
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  It's fair, it's fair. I do.
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  The rage that those that those horror stories.
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  Gave me. Literally fueled my ability to
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  do my job so I will never say a fucking thing against crit crab.
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  That dude is my savior. We're about to relive some of
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  it. I'm going to.
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  Say some heinous things. I can feel it.
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  Probably. Probably.
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  Look, it's a good thing this video is not monetized because
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  it's never going to get it. It's funny because so I mean,
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  just for the, just for the brief context, like I had a different
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  idea. I had a different topic in mind
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  which is going to be dealing with the the the post arc slump.
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  I didn't realize we already did an episode on that like not that
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  long ago. I don't know why.
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  I forgot or why? Yeah, like 10 episodes ago.
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  I don't know why I didn't like Register in my brain.
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  I guess just because I think honestly, the reason is because
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  it's something that that frustrates and pisses me off so
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  God damn much that I just was like, I wanted to bitch about it
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  more. I guess.
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  I don't really know because man, let me tell you that feeling
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  after you finish a big arc, big adventure, going into that
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  awkward in between phase, it is the bane of my existence in
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  every game and I just, I just wish I could not.
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  I just want to not. I I like that I had this exact
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  reaction two months ago and you were like just don't forehead
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  fuck you. I don't remember I.
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  Don't remember saying just don't.
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  You literally like just don't do it forehead just don't have just
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  don't have the. Same.
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  It's like that's how I responded because I've always had this
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  frustration. I don't know if I believe you.
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  I don't know if that's how I responded.
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  I feel like go back and. Listen back to it.
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  Baby, I feel like you're slamming.
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  Someone in the comments, did he or did he not say just don't
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  have this problem forehead at some point in that video?
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  If not, I'll eat my words. But if he did, I don't.
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  I don't feel like I I don't. Feel like that's how I
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  responded. I may have responded slightly
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  dismissively to the exact problem in your campaign at the
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  moment, but like the problem in general, I don't feel like, so
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  that I don't feel like I would respond that way.
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  I, I suppose I could be wrong, maybe I did, I don't know.
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  Anyway, that's not really the point.
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  Point being, I didn't realize I was rehashing something from not
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  that long ago. And, you know, we may still come
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  back to it in some capacity if I, you know, something comes to
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  me. But instead, it's time for a
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  little sloppy topic. Why don't you?
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  Say it like. I said.
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  I said what I said. Also, you got to, you got to
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  really, if you're going to do the sloppy, you got to commit to
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  sloppy. You got to.
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  You got to do it. What?
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  What do you mean you? Got to do the, you got to do the
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  thing. Do what thing?
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  Sloppy thing? I don't know what you're
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  referring to. 14th. Do bastard.
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  What? Fucking what's his nuts the the
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  Crystal Braves guy send? Oh Schlopper.
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  Yeah, what the fuck is his name? The Griffin.
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  Yeah, what's his actual name is? It's like Bertrand or.
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  Something or like Gilbert. Ilbert.
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  Yeah, fucking stupid ass name. In him with the Schlopper, yeah.
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  Rope fucking hate that guy anyway.
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  Yes, yes, we're doing the schloppy and also we haven't
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  done this before so this is a fun one to fuck around with.
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  You ever want to talk about a character where it's like, I'm
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  literally 2 seconds from blowing you the fuck up and then you
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  don't get to and you're like, this guy's not that cool, I can
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  fuck this dude up. I beat Zenos in a fight, I swear
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  to God let me kill him. All right, well, two things.
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  One, you haven't beaten. You haven't even seen Zenos at
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  that point in the game. You you killed Ilberg.
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  You killed Ilbert before. Yes, Ilbert dies way before
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  Zenos even appears because that whole arc is leading into into
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  Storm Blood. Oh right.
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  Either way you beat fucking Gaius, you beat Ultima.
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  At that point you beat fucking Laha Brand like.
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  Debatable on Gaius. You beat him, you didn't like,
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  you didn't kill him, but you beat him.
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  You beat him in a fight. That's.
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  Pretty what does any of that have to do with Ilbert diagram?
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  You do get to kill him. You beat him.
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  Yeah but he gets to talk a lot of shit for like 1/2 an
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  expansion before you kill his ass.
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  'Cause you don't know he's evil at first, yeah.
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  And. Then he does the evil thing and
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  then, you know, the whole thing ends when fucking round one.
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  Yeah, I gotta wait half an expansion to put his ass in the
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  ground. Yeah, 'cause he ran away.
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  Talking all that shit I don't. Understand what the complaint
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  is. There's no actual complaint.
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  It's just funny. He's one of those characters
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  where you're like, oh, when I get you, Oh, when I get my hands
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  on you. Sure, fair enough.
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  I'm basically saying he talks a whole lot of shit for somebody
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  in Warrior of Light distance. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely
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  not, not particularly tough or anything like that, that's for
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  sure. Before we get on to the Schloppy
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  though, follow or subscribe on your podcast platform of choice
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  if you would like some more disgusting sloppy pea soup fed
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  into your mouth directly. Why do you say these things in
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  this order? Why do you use your voice to
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  make these sounds? Because it's funny, and because
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  I can. I have free will.
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  I Oh God. What more do I need?
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  Fair enough. And that's why you follow or
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  subscribe. Anyway, let's do this.
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  Let's start. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna read
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  the, the, the first one that I came across when I happened to
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  be looking around because I feel like it's a good opener because
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  it's just a, it's just an up and down of just, I don't know,
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  nonsense, I guess. I mean, I feel a little bad for
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  the guy, but yeah, it's, it's also a long one.
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  That's yeah, that's the other reason.
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  So we're, we're starting with something saucy and girthy and
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  meaty, you know? Yep, a concept warning for
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  addiction apparently. Yeah, sort of kind on this one.
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  Yeah, sure. All right.
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  All right. Yeah.
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  Also, these are our PG horror stories.
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  So like, you know, they they might get a little much.
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  Yeah, I don't. I don't think any of them were
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  too bad. There's one.
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  There's one that brother is genuinely like yo doggy, but the
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  other ones I don't think are too bad.
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  Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so this one's just
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  titled. What else was I supposed to do?
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  Which is just like a what? A what?
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  A title. So, oh, I clicked off on it.
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  All right, so OP says here. By the way, OP stands for
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  original poster for some reason you don't know that.
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  And it just means the person who made the post for the thing.
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  I hate saying OPI think it's a stupid phrase.
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  I hate I hate it as an acronym. But it's what we got anyway.
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  So they say. I played DND with a group of
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  friends for a good few years, good few years now, ever since
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  2021. They posted this like a week
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  ago. So five year, five years ago, or
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  four or five years at least. Our recent campaign, which just
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  ended heading into a new one, Yippee had a problem player who
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  at one point used to be a good friend of the group, but for the
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  sake it's used to be a good friend for the friend of.
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  The group period. I added words in there for the
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  sake of simplicity. Will refer to him as Vera or
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  Vera I guess. Vera, short for his character's
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  name Veritor, which it's not a bad name, I don't hate it.
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  It does go a little hard. For a bit of a history on Vera
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  up to this point, he is a friend of the DMS and one that our
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  group got along with for a long time.
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  Knew him for about two years, question mark give or take.
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  He's a pretty mellow guy, usually smokes a lot, but had a
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  had a pan of interests that were a bit weird, but we'll get to
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  that pan. I don't know what they meant by
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  pan there. I mean, I I get that they meant
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  like a bunch of entities. Yeah, a a bunch.
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  A group also smokes a lot. Seems like kind of an
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  understatement as this one goes on.
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  Oh, no. Throughout throughout the
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  campaign, we were following the main quest line involving an
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  undead legion led by an undying king named Theodore.
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  Theodore's right hand man, a lich whose half of his face
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  remains not decayed, is a character that has been haunting
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  the party for quite a bit at this time.
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  Vera's character had tied to ties to this undead legion,
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  which is exciting, which is exciting to see a character's
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  back story be tied into. To explain how this came to be,
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  Vera has been getting voices that urge him to open
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  sacrificial portals to land to the land of Undeath, Theodore's
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  region. Out of character.
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  He's been having quite a bit of fun doing this early on.
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  This is pretty much everything you need to know about Vera and
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  his character up to this point. Fast towards in the middle of
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  the campaign, Vera begins being very uncooperative not only at
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  the table, but outside of the table.
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  First off, getting him online to play D&D since we play on
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  Foundry was like a flip of the coin.
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  Sometimes he would hop on, other times he would either not hop on
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  at all without a word or leave the leave the group to go get
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  Burger King for an hour right when D&D was supposed to start.
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  Or, or at times even go out smoking weed for like 2 hours in
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  the middle of the session and come back not knowing what's
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  going on. Which is kind of doubly funny
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  because 1, he doesn't know what's going on because the
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  weed's probably frying the neurons a little bit, and two,
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  he was just gone for two hours. Bro I this reminds me, Oh my
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  God, I'm a small tangent. This reminds me when I played at
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  my first ever campaign, the notorious campaign, and there
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  was one time where one of our players asked her came on and he
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  was we were like about to start session and he kind of was the
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  reason why we hadn't started on time because he was driving to
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  Chick-fil-A. He minded us.
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  Back in 2018, he was driving to Chick-fil-A to get the new
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  chicken sandwich or the Popeyes to get the new Popeye's chicken
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  sandwich. And it was such an ordeal that
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  he came into the chat maulding and he was like, I went out.
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  I've been stuck in traffic this line long as hell.
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  People got into a fight. I ate the sandwich.
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  It was OK. I ate the sandwich.
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  It was OK. He's.
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  Like I didn't get the spicy one, that was my first mistake.
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  He spoke for like 5 minutes on end in that cadence and tone.
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  Just so much angrier. I just really like, I got the
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  sandwich, it was OK. Yeah, literally.
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  He's like, I got the sandwich. It was OK.
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  I didn't get the spicy one. That was my first mistake.
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  I like that he had to throw that in there in case you were
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  curious about the sandwich. Yeah, it was magic.
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  So returning second off for the in game portion, he at times
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  would carry over his frustration from out of game stuff into the
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  table tops experience. For example, we were trying to
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  say of course. That that's the worst shit.
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  Oh yeah, for example, we were trying to fight through a walled
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  off border to an ice Kingdom of some sort.
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  He began getting very aggressive with everyone else and the DM in
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  that moment for the entirety of the encounter, but when we asked
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  him why, his response was I shit you not.
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  I'm tired at losing it. I'm tired of losing at League of
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  Legends. As as he was begrudgingly
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  fighting siege siege golems. We kind of didn't know what to
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  say about that, so we moved on. I.
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  That was my first. That was the first line that got
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  me. I was like, oh nice.
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  I'm just so salty at league. I hate this so much.
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  Yeah, I'm so salty at League that I'm bitching at my D&D
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  group is like a wild. Like obviously it's more than
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  just the league problem, but just to go from A to B, it's
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  like OK dude, it's. Like, all right, brother, have
• 21:24
  you ever talked about that time that Ant was an hour late to my
• 21:26
  campaign because he was playing league?
• 21:29
  No, but I'm also not that shocked.
• 21:31
  Yeah, that happened. I'll never forget that Ant, you
• 21:34
  bitch. But he if if you were an hour
• 21:38
  late, he must have started like started the game like 10 minutes
• 21:43
  before. Yep.
• 21:46
  Cause 'cause like a league game's like 45 minutes ish.
• 21:49
  Well, that league's a little shorter.
• 21:50
  It'd be like 30 minutes, but still.
• 21:54
  So he had to hit start. Like if you were starting at 8,
• 21:56
  he hit the start button at like 750.
• 21:59
  Oh fuck. OK.
• 22:03
  Sorry, I didn't mean to segue again.
• 22:06
  That's, listen, that's part of the point of this, is to segue
• 22:08
  into stupid shit. That's part of the objective
• 22:11
  here. That's what we're getting at
• 22:13
  throughout the rest of the story surrounding this point in time.
• 22:16
  He would start taking the whole madness plot of his character
• 22:19
  with ties to the undead powers and went in very random
• 22:23
  directions with it. He would try to kill off his own
• 22:26
  character by voluntarily looking into Medusa's eyes when it was
• 22:29
  for a funeral ceremony, which is like what?
• 22:33
  Tried sabotaging our party to rather annoying extents such as
• 22:36
  stealing quest items from the party and getting us into
• 22:39
  trouble by, you know, murdering civilians.
• 22:45
  Always. It always comes back to the
• 22:48
  murders. Always the problem.
• 22:51
  Players want to kill random civilians dude, it's just that.
• 22:56
  So you know what? I'm just going to start doing
• 22:57
  terrorism. That's surely that'll go great.
• 22:59
  So many of these dudes need to just play prototype.
• 23:04
  Yeah. Or.
• 23:07
  Infamous. Or infamous, GTA, any of those
• 23:11
  open world games where you could just be heinous.
• 23:16
  I understand that his character being semi.
• 23:19
  I understand his character is being semi possessed in the
• 23:22
  story but this was something that happened all the time.
• 23:26
  Not even the DM suggestion for his characters at this point.
• 23:28
  To me it screams it's what my character would do scenario.
• 23:31
  But I don't know. I mean yeah it's absolutely that
• 23:35
  out of game was even more of a mess that may have trickled into
• 23:40
  his playing of DND. This is this is where the this
• 23:43
  is where the fun begins. He began getting more frustrated
• 23:47
  with everyone in our group. Now, at the beginning of his
• 23:49
  depressive episodes, we all collectively talked to him as a
• 23:53
  group, seeing that he needs help.
• 23:54
  The first talk pretty much involved him lamenting his past
• 23:56
  instances with people during high school, which although he
• 24:00
  is like 25 at the time, we still tried to console him, which
• 24:06
  worked for two days. Yeah.
• 24:11
  Look, brother, I've had, I've had the, the, the fucking two
• 24:15
  AMI get real hard. I get it I guess been seven
• 24:20
  years you. Need to get the fuck over.
• 24:22
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah.
• 24:25
  Listen, it cannot be the actual start of your real life villain
• 24:28
  back story. This isn't Marvel Comics.
• 24:30
  Please, that's kind of seems like where this goes a little
• 24:33
  bit, Not a lot. He he, he came back day after
• 24:37
  day needing to be talked about. What's on his mind for that day?
• 24:41
  We try helping him the best we could by giving him advice,
• 24:44
  giving him ideas as to what we should do to help mitigate these
• 24:47
  constant downward spirals. To introduce you to some of my
• 24:52
  friends who I refer to as their character names, we got Guar and
• 24:55
  Spring. Spring tried giving him
• 24:57
  relationship vice since Vera is very.
• 25:01
  I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Delusional.
• 25:05
  Not the I'm not. That was not me adding it by the
• 25:10
  way. That's.
• 25:11
  What he that is literally tired here out here with the he's
• 25:14
  hashtag? He said.
• 25:16
  I'm not going to sugar coat it. Delusional.
• 25:25
  Yeah, yeah, it gets better from here.
• 25:30
  Vera has this belief that he will only better himself and his
• 25:34
  lifestyle if a girl he meets truly loves him while he's at
• 25:38
  his worst. Which, like, that's not even I
• 25:43
  see. When I first read this and I saw
• 25:45
  the delusional bit, I was like, ah, he's gonna go down some red
• 25:49
  pill pipeline that's not even really like a red pill thing.
• 25:52
  That just doesn't make any sense.
• 25:54
  Yeah, it's, it's kind of going closer to the in cell.
• 25:58
  It's not even like standard like but but I feel like the in cells
• 26:02
  are like, oh, a woman should just love me as is and deal with
• 26:06
  it. This guy's saying like no, no, I
• 26:07
  need to be actively at my worst and then she will make.
• 26:11
  Better as hard as possible and she will remake me like a
• 26:15
  phoenix. I will be reborn into my best
• 26:18
  self. She.
• 26:20
  Will save me from the darkness brother.
• 26:24
  As I said. Like it's not even.
• 26:25
  I was really expecting some red pill shit but I don't even know
• 26:28
  what to call that maneuver. I yeah, I don't know.
• 26:33
  All right, here comes some more fun ones to bring more emphasis
• 26:36
  to his lifestyle and his weird interests, quote UN quote.
• 26:40
  I mentioned earlier this man is horrifically addicted to weed,
• 26:44
  alcohol, and more importantly, adult content of the depraved
• 26:48
  variety. What kinds?
• 26:51
  Question mark? Whatever exists I guess.
• 26:53
  In fact, he has openly admitted this.
• 26:57
  This is this one's unhinged as fuck.
• 27:00
  He has openly admitted he cannot play Skyrim without a copious
• 27:03
  amount. A copious amount of 18 plus
• 27:06
  mods, if that stands as an example of anything.
• 27:13
  Which like, copious isn't a number.
• 27:16
  But when you're talking mods, if you're using the word copious, I
• 27:20
  feel like we got to be talking. About the hundreds and the I, I
• 27:22
  would say dozens, yeah, I. Dozen double digits to triple
• 27:26
  digits. Like you got to be over.
• 27:28
  We're like over 20 if we're using the word copious I feel
• 27:31
  like at least. Yeah.
• 27:33
  So I'm like oh boy. Also what kind of 18 plus mod?
• 27:36
  Because like there's 18 plus mods that just have full on
• 27:40
  fucking mini games in Skyrim. So like how insane are we
• 27:44
  getting here? This level of 18 plus stuff
• 27:50
  usage has absolutely destroyed his mind and outlook on life as
• 27:53
  a whole. It was a daily activity for him
• 27:58
  daily. Anyway.
• 28:00
  Spring gave him advice that he will have better luck finding
• 28:02
  someone if he works on himself. Such as, you know, moving away
• 28:06
  from the adult content he's been binging for years.
• 28:09
  Binging is also a strong word. He refused pretty vocally about
• 28:13
  it and for what reason I do not remember.
• 28:16
  Probably because it was a dumb reason.
• 28:18
  Whenever he tried. Whenever we tried giving him
• 28:20
  other suggestions, coping mechanisms, requesting for
• 28:23
  possible medication, he would openly refuse them.
• 28:27
  At this point there is only so much we can do.
• 28:29
  Since at this point in time this has been ongoing for two weeks,
• 28:33
  we advised that we should. Also, two weeks is not even that
• 28:36
  long. Like this is so much shit in two
• 28:38
  weeks. Yeah, this is just the like
• 28:41
  Series of Unfortunate Events. Bro is speed running the the the
• 28:45
  fuck ups like I don't even we. Advise 1 Stand up bit where he's
• 28:49
  like and then it got worse. Then it got worse.
• 28:55
  We advise that he should seek a counselor or a therapist.
• 28:58
  Guare even further advised on the therapy thing, saying that
• 29:03
  so far we haven't been able to meaningfully help him, so a
• 29:05
  professional would be a better idea.
• 29:08
  Vera confirmed that he wants attention.
• 29:11
  Not like for a funny joke, but he thinks getting attention for
• 29:14
  his constant emotional distress will help fill the void or
• 29:17
  something. It's just like Yikes.
• 29:27
  As much as being consoled eases the mind, this is to a point
• 29:32
  where to where it was constant and stagnant.
• 29:35
  He wasn't taking advice and it and anytime we spend hours to
• 29:38
  help him feel better he's back to the same state when he he was
• 29:42
  in and he was in the next day. Some days he'd even get
• 29:46
  unreasonably angry at people over games as well, especially
• 29:49
  league. Rush should probably stop
• 29:51
  playing league. Yeah, I look, I have opinions on
• 29:55
  league, but I do know and this this is pretty unrefutable that
• 29:58
  it does boil people's blood pretty easily so.
• 30:01
  I mean, I, I, I do want to point out that I don't, I am, I, I do
• 30:05
  not believe that League boils people's blood any more than any
• 30:08
  other competitive game. I simply think everybody hears
• 30:11
  about League purely on the basis of it's one of the most popular
• 30:15
  ones. It's the most popular MOBA for
• 30:17
  sure. So I don't actually think League
• 30:20
  is any worse than I have been called heinous things in League,
• 30:24
  in Overwatch, in Dota 2, in World of Warcraft, in 14,
• 30:29
  they're all the same. League just gets extra news
• 30:35
  attention because it's one of the big boys.
• 30:37
  It's the big boy, basically. It used to be Call of Duty
• 30:43
  lobbies, you know, like I don't think League is actually
• 30:46
  anything special in terms of the rage bait.
• 30:49
  No, no, here's the thing. Here's the thing that you're
• 30:51
  missing League, I feel like, and I've not played League, but it's
• 30:54
  I. Was going to say you're about to
• 30:55
  say some shit from. No league is it feels like is
• 30:59
  the last bastion of the Call of Duty lobbies.
• 31:08
  Maybe a little sort of kinda, I don't know, like Overwatch has a
• 31:11
  lot of that too. I'm sure Marvel, I'm sure Rivals
• 31:15
  is getting there. Well, no, you can't.
• 31:18
  My Rivals is well, you can get toxic people, but the the sheer
• 31:22
  level of things that people will call you Marvel's is pretty
• 31:26
  heavily moderated. Rivals is, but so is League too.
• 31:33
  That's the thing. League isn't unmoderated.
• 31:35
  That's like a thing that League used to be, not very heavily
• 31:38
  moderated, like years and years and years ago 'cause they were
• 31:41
  such a small studio, but like, League is just as heavily
• 31:44
  moderated as anything else these days.
• 31:47
  That's just like a thing people say 'cause I don't know, they're
• 31:50
  stupid. I don't know.
• 31:52
  Fair enough. Anyway, back to the D&D side of
• 31:55
  things, 'cause, you know, we drifted from D&D.
• 31:59
  The DM ultimately decided to talk to Vera about potentially
• 32:03
  leaving the campaign since Vera would join.
• 32:06
  Since Vera would join for like 10 minutes, then leave the rest
• 32:10
  of the session to hang out with his friends IRL and smoke in the
• 32:13
  garage, which were these other like, clowns this man is hanging
• 32:18
  out with. We assumed he simply didn't want
• 32:23
  to play D&D at this point due to his constant absence.
• 32:25
  Which, like, Yeah, very like, completely fair assumption.
• 32:30
  Apparently they should not have assumed that it would make more
• 32:34
  sense to reserve a slot for someone who wants to play D&D.
• 32:38
  When Vera was confronted about it, strangely enough, he went.
• 32:41
  That's all right, I get it. I've been a bit busy.
• 32:44
  Much. I'll sit out.
• 32:45
  Which isn't doesn't sound like it's true.
• 32:49
  Unless you count just smoking in the garage is busy.
• 32:51
  I guess we thought we thought that cool.
• 32:56
  Everything worked out on that front.
• 32:59
  Oh, we were wrong. Not even a day later he began
• 33:04
  screaming to the other people in our discord server that they
• 33:07
  kicked me out of the party. We even told him that it was his
• 33:10
  choice to leave. We were not forcing him, the
• 33:13
  option was his, he said. But the DM told me if I wasn't
• 33:16
  enjoying it, I should leave. That means you guys want me to
• 33:19
  leave? The team quickly told him no.
• 33:22
  I told you if you're not willing to participate in the D&D, you
• 33:26
  can leave if you want. You said you were busy and
• 33:28
  didn't have a problem with it, so why now?
• 33:30
  Vera said. I didn't want to leave.
• 33:32
  I was testing you guys. Bro, ain't no way.
• 33:35
  I was testing you guys. I I didn't want to leave.
• 33:39
  I was just saying that I would leave hoping that you would come
• 33:44
  crawling back and beg me not to leave because I was your friend.
• 33:48
  Yep, Yep, actually fuck off. It's the, it's the crazy
• 33:52
  girlfriend who, like, you know, says the crazy shit to, you
• 33:56
  know, I wanted you to fight for me or whatever, or like, goes
• 34:01
  out and, like, cheats specifically so her man won't
• 34:04
  get in the fight with the guy that she cheated with, you know,
• 34:06
  like that. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:08
  You weren't giving me the attention I needed, OK?
• 34:13
  Naturally we were about done with this and later that night
• 34:16
  he left the server out of rage. An hour later after that he
• 34:21
  began sending messages to all of us for an invite back.
• 34:25
  Guare Spring and the DM decided not to send an invite back
• 34:29
  because we were exhausted at this constant repeat of events.
• 34:32
  They were willing to then send an invite once he has cooled
• 34:35
  down on his own behalf, which didn't end up coming to pass.
• 34:37
  I tried helping him myself meet people across the discord who
• 34:41
  play similar games as he does, such as League so he doesn't
• 34:43
  feel like he's so he doesn't feel left out of playing
• 34:46
  anything since sometimes we branch out into other servers.
• 34:50
  But he was still very bitter and focused on my other friends.
• 34:53
  Even still, I don't know if I didn't have to try and help him,
• 34:56
  or if my friends didn't have to help him, or if the DM letting
• 34:59
  Vera know he can leave if he wasn't willing to participate in
• 35:03
  D&D was a good idea for that point in time at least.
• 35:06
  I felt like it was falling on deaf ears.
• 35:08
  There wasn't much left we could do.
• 35:11
  Let me know what y'all think. Yeah, so bro crashed out hard
• 35:22
  and then wanted everyone to fight for him to come crawling
• 35:27
  back. And I don't even, I can't even
• 35:31
  really understand a lot like the idea of being like, no, I do
• 35:37
  want to play, but also I'm going to go smoke all the time and
• 35:40
  also I'm going to be like angry all the time.
• 35:42
  Like I just don't. The back and forth is unhinged.
• 35:46
  Yeah, well, so I mean, here's the thing.
• 35:47
  You got to, you got to take this thing apart piece by piece.
• 35:50
  This guy does not like this guy's problem is not that he
• 35:55
  smokes, drinks and beats his Dick too much.
• 35:57
  That is not what is going on here.
• 35:58
  That dude is deeply. Clinically depressed.
• 36:01
  And those are the three big coping mechanisms that he's
• 36:03
  using. Yeah.
• 36:05
  Yeah. So, you know, telling him, you
• 36:09
  know, stop doing XY and Z, you're not actually solving the
• 36:12
  problem. You have to go deeper than that.
• 36:13
  And yes, motherfucker, you absolutely need professional
• 36:16
  help. I mean, yeah, for sure.
• 36:18
  I. Had several people that I've
• 36:20
  played with who are just fucking like this and there's nothing
• 36:23
  you can do for somebody who doesn't want help.
• 36:26
  Nothing you can do. No, especially.
• 36:27
  If someone wants to be coddled. Yeah, I mean, if you're
• 36:31
  specifically saying I want attention, yeah.
• 36:33
  I mean, yeah. I, I also feel like the, you
• 36:42
  know, OP originally, you know, the title of the of this post is
• 36:46
  what else was I supposed to do? And like, yeah, nothing else.
• 36:49
  You, you can't. This is beyond your, your, your
• 36:52
  scope as a random person who you're who you're playing D&D
• 36:55
  like. You couldn't.
• 36:56
  There's no other steps you could have taken here, I think.
• 37:00
  The the only real thing that I could have offered that I could
• 37:04
  offer you in hindsight is like maybe call a professional for
• 37:09
  him. You know, just be like, hey, I
• 37:11
  think this person is unwell and maybe needs a check up.
• 37:15
  Yeah, I don't know how that works.
• 37:18
  But yeah, also there is a little bit of a little bit of a gas
• 37:25
  lighting thing going on there with Mr. Vera, like a couple of
• 37:29
  things where you're like, huh. Oh yeah, the gas light was deep.
• 37:33
  That's not good either. But yeah, that, that that's our
• 37:38
  opener. Yeah, that one I thought was
• 37:46
  interesting because there was a, there was a few layers to it, if
• 37:50
  you will. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:53
  It just seems like so dudes with like it's crazy how one not
• 37:59
  simple issue but one direct issue spirals is completely out
• 38:02
  of control. Yeah, go ahead.
• 38:08
  No, it just deeply ingrained depression transfers into
• 38:12
  potential substance abuse issues.
• 38:14
  Definitely chemical dependencies.
• 38:16
  I don't know, absolutely malding in league and then.
• 38:20
  Turning into a. Borderline schizo in your game
• 38:23
  like I don't. It's a lot.
• 38:25
  It's a, it's a lot of things there.
• 38:29
  Here. We'll, we'll, we'll do a, a much
• 38:30
  shorter, a little bit of a palate cleanser run after that
• 38:33
  one though, 'cause I just thought this was kind of funny.
• 38:36
  AI thought it was funny, but B, there is one little tidbit in
• 38:40
  here that I was like, that's a little concerning you.
• 38:42
  Want me to take care of this one because you just did a long one.
• 38:45
  No, no, this is a really short 1.
• 38:49
  This one is. Am I an RPG Horror Story player?
• 38:52
  The person's. Asking.
• 38:55
  You're gonna laugh. So to just come out with it, I'm
• 38:59
  a cigarette smoker. Every few hours into a session,
• 39:02
  I excuse, I excuse myself to smoke a cigarette.
• 39:05
  I always make sure that it's not an RP heavy moment or doing any
• 39:08
  sort of combat. I pay attention during
• 39:10
  everybody's turn. I take notes during the game,
• 39:12
  but I do take 3 to 5 minutes every few hours to go outside
• 39:15
  and smoke and be alone. Would this annoy you as a player
• 39:19
  or Adm? And like my immediate response
• 39:21
  is like, no, that's definitely not that big of a deal.
• 39:24
  I've dealt. I've actually had a player who
• 39:26
  did that in my game at like, it's fine.
• 39:30
  You just spend the 5 minutes and then get back to it, you know?
• 39:33
  Yeah, I mean like. It's.
• 39:35
  If you, if you make it sort of like a, a, a tradition, like a
• 39:38
  you know, oh, OK guys, you know, it's worth 2 1/2 hours in.
• 39:41
  Take a 5 minute. Break we're at the break time
• 39:43
  yeah yeah, yeah. So like in that regard I yeah I
• 39:47
  was just like lol OK so I just thought it was kind of funny
• 39:50
  that this person's even asking because like hilariously
• 39:53
  innocuous thing. But the little little follow up
• 40:00
  ETAI showed my partner this post and he has concluded that I am
• 40:06
  in fact an RPG Horror Story. I have condensed his points
• 40:10
  below. Smoking is bad and gross.
• 40:14
  This is a constant and not sarcastic.
• 40:18
  I am not that engrossed for smoking once or twice during A5
• 40:21
  plus hour session, but I am in fact the worst because when I
• 40:24
  leave I don't get to hear everyone's awesome theories.
• 40:28
  Cigarette smoke is worse than weed smoke in an enclosed space.
• 40:33
  I do agree with this even though as a smoker I have not been
• 40:36
  especially offended by heavy weed.
• 40:37
  But some of my fellow chimney smoking brothers and sisters
• 40:41
  smell like David Chain smoking packs in the closet for days on
• 40:43
  it. So the initial post I was like
• 40:49
  Nah bro you're fine. And then the I asked my partner
• 40:52
  and they have considered I am in fact an RPG Horror Story.
• 40:55
  I was like, wait, what? Yeah, that.
• 40:58
  That seems like what? Yeah, I don't know, Like, I
• 41:05
  don't know if they're your partner, they have every right
• 41:07
  to be like, look, I don't like that you spoke and whether or
• 41:10
  not you do something about that's kind of up to you.
• 41:11
  But being like yes you are actually the worst kind of
• 41:15
  player because you don't get to sit in on everyone's head
• 41:19
  cannons like. Yeah, what I saw that I was
• 41:22
  like, what are you? Smoking.
• 41:25
  Also smoking is bad and gross. This is a constant and not
• 41:29
  sarcastic. I mean, if your partner is
• 41:36
  saying that to you all the time, there might be some other
• 41:40
  baggage here. Like I feel like we've unlocked
• 41:43
  some secret baggage that this person didn't know they were
• 41:45
  giving up. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know
• 41:48
  if you you started dating a smoker expect smoking.
• 41:51
  I don't know you. Expect smoking.
• 41:52
  Yeah, right. Like expect smoking.
• 41:53
  Like, what the fuck? Like you, you're going to tell
• 41:57
  me that you went on several dates with this person and
• 42:00
  didn't know they were a smoker like that?
• 42:02
  There's just no way. It's just impossible.
• 42:05
  You know, like. But I see you.
• 42:08
  You misunderstand Josh. I can change them once I trap
• 42:11
  their ass is typically the methodology.
• 42:15
  Yeah, I just somehow don't think so.
• 42:20
  I just don't think so. No, but.
• 42:23
  Look, I'm not here to tell someone that their idea is
• 42:25
  fucking idiotic. I am just here to state the fact
• 42:27
  that it's. Yeah, yeah, I just like I'm
• 42:29
  imagining like even on a on a fucking first date, you go to a
• 42:38
  restaurant or some shit, good chance that person says, hey,
• 42:41
  I'm going to step out for a smoke.
• 42:43
  You know, like that's really common.
• 42:45
  So I feel like we what's going on here where you're trapped
• 42:50
  homeboy down, you're like, Smokey's fucking gross.
• 42:52
  You're like, OK, well, you knew that.
• 42:53
  You knew he was smoking. So or they were smoking.
• 42:58
  Can you imagine a situation where someone's like?
• 43:01
  This is. Really holding on.
• 43:02
  They're just holding off on smoking until it's like a year
• 43:05
  in and then they're like I unleash MY2 chaos and start
• 43:09
  pounding like a pack a day. Just chain smoking them like an
• 43:13
  animal. Yeah.
• 43:15
  Yeah. I mean, I just, the thing about
• 43:19
  this one, I this isn't even really about the like RPG Horror
• 43:22
  Story. I just thought it was really
• 43:23
  interesting that I read the first half and I was like, this
• 43:26
  is a weird, innocuous post. And the second-half, I was like,
• 43:29
  oh, there's some baggage there that.
• 43:30
  You're not. Oh this guy was toxic.
• 43:33
  Yeah, wait a minute. Whoa.
• 43:34
  We got a little toxic on the back half.
• 43:36
  Like what's going on there, bud? Oh, Oh no.
• 43:41
  I, I really and I and no one in the comments said anything about
• 43:44
  it, which really had me confused.
• 43:47
  Really did no one say anything about it?
• 43:49
  Hold on, as far as I could see everyone else in the in the
• 43:55
  everyone else commenting was only responding to the first
• 43:58
  half where the person was asking like am I an RPG horror
• 44:01
  basically answering the question yes or no?
• 44:04
  I don't see anyone responding to the weird backhanded comment
• 44:09
  about the person that they're dating.
• 44:13
  You know what I mean? Maybe it was an edit like maybe
• 44:15
  that that second part came after everybody commented.
• 44:18
  Maybe, I don't know, but I thought that was really odd that
• 44:21
  nobody said anything about that part.
• 44:26
  Yeah, what the fuck now? Yeah, I'm looking through it
• 44:28
  now. No one made a point to talk
• 44:29
  about that. Right, right.
• 44:31
  That's all. I was like, I was like, what's
• 44:33
  going on here? Am I seeing something secret?
• 44:37
  What the fuck? Yeah, there was also a lot of
• 44:42
  people that were basically like, get the fuck out of my house,
• 44:44
  which I mean. Bro hit someone hit him with.
• 44:49
  If it's at an IR table you're banned.
• 44:51
  Smoking is disgusting. Yeah.
• 44:53
  Which what? Yeah, that feels like I.
• 44:56
  Feel like vehemently despises tobacco smoking.
• 45:02
  Hate it. Grew up in a family full of
• 45:04
  smokers. As long as I don't smell this
• 45:07
  shit, you're good. There are ways to smoke without
• 45:10
  smelling like a fucking wet pack of cigarettes.
• 45:12
  I mean, you're going to smell it a little bit when they come back
• 45:14
  in and stuff. But yeah, there's there's
• 45:17
  there's definitely a like a margin of error.
• 45:22
  There's some leeway between absolutely not and yeah,
• 45:24
  whatever. I don't care.
• 45:25
  You know, I mean, look, if if you're exhaling into your shirt
• 45:29
  and like, or yeah, if you're sitting at the table and puffing
• 45:32
  it straight in the D Ms. face, like, all right, different
• 45:35
  conversation. But yeah, I just, I just really,
• 45:41
  I just really, I just really want to message this person and
• 45:45
  be like, hey, bud. So about the second-half of your
• 45:47
  post about your partner. What's?
• 45:49
  Going on there dawg, your. Partner's a little toxic, I
• 45:53
  like. I have some questions 'cause you
• 45:55
  kind of hinted at something. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:58
  Oh my God. Anyway, I just I showed this to
• 46:02
  my partner and he has concluded I am in fact an RPG Horror
• 46:06
  Story. He's a crazy statement.
• 46:08
  I'd be kind of mad. If my partner's right, I would
• 46:11
  be. Mad I'd be like, dude, I'd be.
• 46:14
  So tight, like be mad if if, if I was like going full murder
• 46:19
  hobo to what my character would do, like the worst kind of
• 46:22
  Horror Story, Yeah, I could see that.
• 46:23
  But someone being like, you're actually a red flag because you
• 46:26
  smoke cigarettes. Yeah.
• 46:29
  I. Fuck you bro.
• 46:30
  I'd be pissed. That's what I'm saying.
• 46:32
  That's what I'm saying. I'd be pissed.
• 46:35
  That was my whole thing. I was like, huh?
• 46:37
  All right, all right, let's see. I I I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if
• 46:44
  I so what's the one I want? That's a good one.
• 46:47
  I might want you to read. I I won't make you read the
• 46:53
  really heavy one. I brother, it's staring at me.
• 46:59
  Well, I don't know. Do you know which one?
• 47:00
  I'm tired. 56788 to me is the one that feels really heavy.
• 47:09
  Oh, no, five I think is. Worse. 05 is worse.
• 47:12
  Oh no, I. Think 5 is worse?
• 47:13
  You want to read 8. No, I'd rather think hold on.
• 47:17
  Oh, come on. I almost want to read 5.
• 47:19
  I just see I. I mean if you want to you.
• 47:24
  I'll brother it gets. Oh, yeah, I'll do it.
• 47:26
  Fuck it. OK.
• 47:28
  Oh, no. All right.
• 47:31
  Give us the. Title Title My then boyfriend
• 47:36
  fed my DM my personal trauma for character growth, content
• 47:39
  warnings, abusive relationship, alcohol abuse, underage
• 47:43
  drinking, in game, child death, and vomit.
• 47:46
  Oh my God. Yes.
• 47:47
  Sir, the regret is beginning to set in very quickly.
• 47:52
  Yes, Sir. All right, so to preface the
• 47:58
  actual D&D, my then boyfriend and I had gotten together in
• 48:01
  high school when I was 16 and he was 19, and we had been together
• 48:05
  for six years at that point. In high school, that's not that.
• 48:08
  Like it's on, it's on the edge, you're it's on the edge, it's on
• 48:11
  the edge and. It's on the edge.
• 48:13
  I hadn't really played D&D since the start of our relationship.
• 48:16
  It was a part of how we got to know each other.
• 48:18
  But Locked Down hit while I was in university on the other side
• 48:21
  of the country and I had a couple of close online friends
• 48:24
  who wanted to start a campaign, so I had to finish that.
• 48:27
  OK. Been together six years at this
• 48:30
  point. So we're jumping to 22 and 25
• 48:33
  just for like Adrian context because I think it's kind of
• 48:36
  relevant here. Fair enough.
• 48:37
  Yes. So currently 22 and 25 as of.
• 48:41
  Story We were a small group and played exclusively through video
• 48:46
  calls using our usual paper, pencil, and physical dice.
• 48:49
  It was nice to have something to look forward to, and I really
• 48:52
  enjoyed getting back into D&D after not touching it at all for
• 48:55
  years. So I'd tell my boyfriend just
• 48:58
  how much fun I was having. I'd make the hour long walk to
• 49:01
  campus for my classes once the school opened back up and would
• 49:04
  fill at that time telling him about all the cool things my
• 49:07
  friends and I were doing in D&D. He wasn't particularly pleased
• 49:10
  that I spent so much time talking to other people when I
• 49:13
  would, and then wouldn't stop talking about it when I called
• 49:16
  him. And so and so I just stopped
• 49:20
  telling him and we would walk, talk about other things.
• 49:23
  Red flag. Yeah, opening red flag.
• 49:28
  He's mad that I'm talking to other human beings.
• 49:31
  Yikes. OK, our campaign was pretty
• 49:34
  basic, our DM pretty forgiving, and since they were my friends
• 49:39
  and I and I could constantly back and forth with them about
• 49:42
  character lore and my PCs family members that would be
• 49:45
  introduced. So back and forth I did.
• 49:48
  And my character had tons of siblings with whom they had a
• 49:51
  tense relationship, one that mirrored my own with my younger
• 49:54
  sister. Big mistake.
• 49:57
  Jump forward about a year and a half slash 2 years and I'm back
• 50:00
  home from university for Christmas and New Year's.
• 50:03
  I'm baby's like. 24 in the situation.
• 50:06
  About Yeah, I'm babysitting my younger sister, 16, who has
• 50:10
  slipped out to meet up with a couple of friends.
• 50:14
  She came back in a state, the kind of state that has you
• 50:17
  mopping up blood and vomit at 3:00 AM in tears.
• 50:21
  Jesus. Agonizing over whether or not an
• 50:23
  ambulance was a good idea. She's fine now, but the whole
• 50:27
  ordeal was traumatic. There was a lot of blame I laid
• 50:31
  on myself for not being able to track her down, not knowing who
• 50:34
  she was with, and not exactly knowing how badly things could
• 50:38
  have gone under different circumstances.
• 50:42
  My boyfriend stayed on the phone with me until he fell asleep.
• 50:45
  I was still emptying buckets of dirty water and trying to get
• 50:48
  the smell out of wooden floors. Eventually the term time
• 50:52
  started. Yeah this is, this is wild.
• 50:54
  I I almost want to hear a story about what the fuck.
• 50:57
  Happened. What the fuck happened?
• 50:58
  Right. Yeah, that's kind of nuts.
• 51:01
  I'm trying to figure out what situation are we mopping up
• 51:04
  blood and vomit and it's seeping into the wood floor.
• 51:08
  Like what the fuck did she cause?
• 51:11
  Like the first half of that you're kind of like, oh, she's
• 51:14
  16. She probably went and got really
• 51:15
  hammered, but it seems like it was more than just she got
• 51:18
  really hammered, you know? What I mean, Yeah, yeah.
• 51:21
  So I'm kind of like, what the fuck happened?
• 51:24
  All right, this is this is maybe I don't know, when I was
• 51:27
  younger, I would, you know, I fell a lot.
• 51:29
  I got hurt a lot and I never really like people are like talk
• 51:33
  about like that, that irony smell that it happens when you
• 51:35
  like get like when there's blood.
• 51:38
  And not until I was an adult that I could finally smell that
• 51:41
  smell. And I'm just like.
• 51:42
  Oh that sucks. What?
• 51:46
  What do you mean you couldn't smell it?
• 51:48
  Like I just, I don't know, my body never perceived that irony
• 51:51
  smell or taste really for that matter, until now that I'm an
• 51:54
  adult and like. Well, you probably just didn't
• 51:57
  have a point of reference. Potentially, yeah.
• 52:01
  But yeah, now that I'm older, I'm just kind of like.
• 52:03
  Yeah, this sucks. It's definitely a weird smell.
• 52:06
  Like once you really lock it in it is a weird smell for sure.
• 52:11
  Yeah, odd mix of salt and burning pennies.
• 52:15
  Not a good smell burning. Pennies.
• 52:21
  Not just not exactly how I describe it, but I I know what
• 52:23
  you mean, yeah. Eventually the term time started
• 52:27
  and I went back to classes, back to playing DND, and back to not
• 52:31
  discussing the campaign with him.
• 52:33
  And back to not discussing the. Yeah, just and back to.
• 52:36
  Sweeping this shit under the rug.
• 52:38
  And back to just not bringing that shit up ever again.
• 52:41
  Around this time our DM introduced us to a new city with
• 52:45
  a plague outbreak, and at the city gates we were informed that
• 52:48
  my P CS younger brother had travelled through the city ahead
• 52:51
  of us, but hadn't left yet. Said brother had been made the
• 52:55
  closest one to one of my own sister in age and behavior.
• 52:59
  The city itself took us maybe four or five sessions to
• 53:02
  complete, this kid brother being dangled as a carrot on a stick
• 53:05
  to keep the party moving. When we eventually reached the
• 53:08
  final gauntlet, it was revealed that he was there the whole
• 53:12
  time, being tortured in the castle while we searched and
• 53:16
  solved puzzles before being infected with vampirism and left
• 53:20
  as a feral monster in a cage. Nothing could be done.
• 53:24
  He was essentially dead before we had arrived, and it was cruel
• 53:27
  and senselessly mean spirited when compared to the rest of the
• 53:29
  campaign. I don't if if this is going
• 53:34
  where I think it's going. Oh baby.
• 53:37
  I really don't like the implications of what are going
• 53:40
  on with this brother fam. I'm not vibing.
• 53:45
  The fucking vibes are rancid. The.
• 53:49
  The vibes have gone decrepit. Yeah.
• 53:52
  Truly rigor mortis. I was devastated at this point.
• 53:57
  I hadn't completely worked through what had happened a
• 53:59
  couple weeks prior and I couldn't understand why I was
• 54:02
  getting so upset about a character in an RPG that had
• 54:05
  never really had any development.
• 54:07
  I felt like I was swallowing rocks.
• 54:10
  I was wet in the eyes, but we were still in a video call and
• 54:13
  still had the BBEG of the area to take out.
• 54:16
  So I sucked it up miserably and onwardly pressed the last.
• 54:20
  Puzzles are like a haze now. There was something about a
• 54:23
  severed finger that took me way too long to figure out, and I
• 54:26
  was kind of useless at that point.
• 54:29
  But that was what opened the way up to our final fight.
• 54:33
  Our little party climbed the stairs and as we entered the
• 54:36
  final room, ping my boyfriend joined the call.
• 54:40
  He proudly announced that he was going to play the BBEG for this
• 54:44
  fight. I don't remember remotely
• 54:46
  anything about it about it, aside from how awful it felt.
• 54:50
  After the fight. I just kind of stumbled my way
• 54:54
  through goodbyes and thank yous, left the call and broke down,
• 54:57
  utterly inconsolable. There was something.
• 55:00
  So there was just something wrong and disgusting and
• 55:03
  violating and I couldn't put my finger on it.
• 55:06
  A text came through and it started to unravel.
• 55:12
  All right, focus yourself. Focus your fucking chakra.
• 55:17
  Focus your chakra. BF did you have fun?
• 55:22
  That one, really. That one really sent me to the
• 55:24
  next stratosphere. I was.
• 55:26
  Like this fucking guy. Homicide is on the menu.
• 55:30
  I. Was like dude.
• 55:31
  Put his ass in the ground. When I saw that part I was like
• 55:36
  wow, why this motherfucker is sadistic like.
• 55:40
  Holy shit. Fucking nuts.
• 55:43
  He told me either he's. Sadistic.
• 55:46
  Either he's sadistic or he's so fucking oblivious that he just
• 55:52
  couldn't register what the fuck was happening, you know what I
• 55:55
  mean? Like.
• 55:55
  I'm gonna be real that this kind of reeks of sociopathy like.
• 55:59
  No, yeah, this reeks of like that eight.
• 56:00
  Year old disorder. Yeah, yeah, I think that's more
• 56:03
  likely, but I'm just saying, I guess there is a possibility
• 56:05
  that he is that fucking clueless, which is crazy.
• 56:08
  Yeah, no. Well, no.
• 56:10
  And after no, no, specifically after this line, absolutely no.
• 56:13
  They're no clueless actual monster, He told me he was
• 56:17
  speaking to my DM on the sly. I'd gotten in touch with my
• 56:20
  friend online after feeling envious of how much time I spent
• 56:23
  talking with them. Feeling frustrated and wanting
• 56:26
  to be involved without inserting himself into my friend group, he
• 56:30
  had begun feeding them ideas for the campaign.
• 56:33
  A fun boss gimmick here, a dungeon map there, until
• 56:36
  eventually the two of them had crafted the whole plague city
• 56:40
  and the tortured slash dead brother.
• 56:42
  I hadn't told my online friends about what had been happening
• 56:45
  with my sister, and while one of the other players could tell I
• 56:49
  was off during the session, they had no, oh they had nobody had
• 56:55
  any basis for why. In some, in some fucked up way,
• 57:00
  he thought this was a good way for me to work through things
• 57:03
  with your sister. His words.
• 57:05
  I had to tell my DM exactly what had happened.
• 57:08
  It was the first time I'd actually put it into words since
• 57:11
  the incident, and it was very traumatic.
• 57:13
  I didn't want to tell them, but the way he'd woven something so
• 57:16
  traumatic to me into a plot point and fed it to my friend to
• 57:20
  regurgitate to me was disgusting.
• 57:23
  It had felt so personal because it was personal.
• 57:26
  I just didn't realize because it had come from a place I assumed
• 57:29
  safe and separate and wanting him just showing up to play some
• 57:34
  grandiose boss at the end with salt in an already festering
• 57:38
  wound. I'm not with him anymore.
• 57:40
  Definitely for the better. I don't speak to the DM friend
• 57:44
  anymore either. They were another issue
• 57:47
  altogether. I do wonder what the fuck the DM
• 57:51
  friend because like the the the last chunk there makes it sound
• 57:54
  like the DM friend just didn't know what was going on so they
• 57:57
  didn't know it would be a big deal.
• 57:58
  But that last little sentence makes it seem like maybe they
• 58:01
  did know what was going on in some capacity.
• 58:05
  No, to me, what that smells of is.
• 58:07
  But it was good content, though. Like, that's what that said.
• 58:12
  Yeah, like, you know, him being like, you know, maybe I imagine
• 58:16
  OP being like, look, I know you didn't do it on purpose, but I
• 58:19
  do feel a certain kind of way about it.
• 58:21
  And I'm kind of upset. And in my head it feels like
• 58:24
  they were like, well, why are you upset?
• 58:26
  It was such a good plot point that.
• 58:30
  Would be, I mean crazy if true. Dog, I'm going to jail.
• 58:38
  I promise you if someone hit me with either of these scenarios,
• 58:41
  my ass is going to prison. And then they hit you with.
• 58:48
  But it was good content though. Bro, what was that video you
• 58:52
  showed me? It's like.
• 58:52
  And then Goldilocks made the pasta.
• 58:54
  Not al dente. Oh yeah, she's going to be real
• 58:57
  sorry when I bury her in the dirt like the fucking dog that
• 58:59
  she is. That's me.
• 59:00
  That's me. Well, you don't have to.
• 59:01
  No, I don't have to do it, but I want to do it.
• 59:03
  That's the. Problem.
• 59:03
  I want to do it, yeah, but I want to do it.
• 59:05
  That's the problem. I mean, fuck his ass.
• 59:10
  Yeah, I mean, I just. What?
• 59:18
  Happened. I need to like when you take the
• 59:24
  content warning when you do like alcohol abuse under drinking
• 59:30
  what? I so I like what I can gather is
• 59:36
  basically her her her sister got to the point of, you know, like
• 59:42
  severe alcohol poisoning and was throwing up blood maybe is like.
• 59:49
  Potentially gave himself an ulcer.
• 59:50
  I could see that, yeah. Something along those lines.
• 59:53
  That's kind of my first thought but I feel like it's got to be
• 59:57
  more than that though, because you take the you take the
• 1:00:03
  brother turned into a feral animal vampire angle and I'm
• 1:00:09
  like was was the turning him into a weird feral monster in a
• 1:00:12
  cage like. Was her sister on drugs and
• 1:00:16
  acting crazy too? You know what I mean?
• 1:00:19
  Like like. How many parallels were there?
• 1:00:22
  Between that's what I'm saying, how many?
• 1:00:25
  Parallels were there between the brother in the game situation,
• 1:00:29
  right? The fictional brother and the
• 1:00:30
  real life sister. How parallel was it?
• 1:00:33
  You know what I'm saying? I'm.
• 1:00:34
  Gonna be like, I'm gonna be honest, I think you need more
• 1:00:37
  than a breakup. I think this motherfucker needs
• 1:00:38
  a restraining. I I mean, maybe, but like,
• 1:00:41
  'cause my initial because to me I'm thinking like, OK, if the GM
• 1:00:48
  had this like vampire brother left as a feral cage or left as
• 1:00:53
  a feral animal in a cage that doesn't that's not so close to
• 1:00:59
  the initial description of what happened with her sister to be
• 1:01:02
  that. I mean, there's still some
• 1:01:03
  awkward parallels, but it's not that bad.
• 1:01:07
  But if the weird vampire feral vampire thing was a was like a
• 1:01:13
  not an allegory, but like a metaphor for something else that
• 1:01:18
  happened to her sister, then you're really pushing it into
• 1:01:21
  the next level. Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Jesus. And like, I don't know, you know
• 1:01:25
  what I mean? We we don't we don't have those
• 1:01:27
  details, obviously. And she kept saying her
• 1:01:31
  relationship with her sister was like, strained.
• 1:01:34
  But like in what way it? Seems like it it so just given
• 1:01:39
  how the brother thing worked of like brother just disappeared,
• 1:01:42
  don't know where he is, came back in a state.
• 1:01:46
  But you know, if I'm if I'm so bold as to make some
• 1:01:49
  assumptions, maybe younger sister is party animal that
• 1:01:52
  cannot be controlled and this is a repeat problem and the problem
• 1:01:55
  described is the worst instance of the problem.
• 1:01:58
  Right. Yeah, I I think that's probably
• 1:02:00
  the case, but I I'm almost wondering if it goes beyond
• 1:02:04
  that, if there's another element to it.
• 1:02:07
  Oh, it's such a bad time for a song called Absinthe to come on
• 1:02:10
  my playlist. It's a really good song, but.
• 1:02:15
  Fair it up. Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  So that was that was I think that that's the worst one.
• 1:02:19
  I grabbed it personally, I think because that one is like, just
• 1:02:25
  like what? Just there's a lot.
• 1:02:30
  There's a lot. There's a lot of a lot.
• 1:02:33
  I mean, yeah, all right. Which one should I hit next
• 1:02:40
  here? I feel like the last two are.
• 1:02:50
  I have strong opinions about #7. I shouldn't.
• 1:02:57
  Why didn't I hold on? Can I actually number these
• 1:02:59
  right? Now you can, yeah.
• 1:03:02
  There we go. Yeah, I got stronger pains about
• 1:03:04
  #7. Oh, well, that one's really
• 1:03:06
  quick. So I mean, yeah, if you want to
• 1:03:08
  a. Short 1 Sure, that's a short 1
• 1:03:14
  title. Why do people keep advertising
• 1:03:17
  bleakness as realism? Topic or discussion?
• 1:03:24
  Something that keeps popping up is people advertising their
• 1:03:27
  story slash tabletop campaign, etcetera as very realistic.
• 1:03:32
  But what that actually means is that the vast majority of
• 1:03:34
  characters are jerks and the setting is bleak.
• 1:03:37
  Once I even had AGM in such a setting who was bothered that
• 1:03:42
  our characters actually cooperated and didn't try to
• 1:03:45
  backstab each other for short term gains, claiming that our
• 1:03:49
  behavior was unrealistic. Of course the world has issues,
• 1:03:53
  but by far not everything is awful.
• 1:03:55
  So what's up with that? All right, Isaiah's got on the
• 1:03:58
  soapbox. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Well, can I just say I just threw this one in.
• 1:04:01
  I, I threw this one in here. It's not really a story, but I,
• 1:04:03
  I just, it is kind of an interesting, like thought
• 1:04:08
  experiment to throw up randomly there.
• 1:04:10
  Like, yeah, why do people seem to do that a lot?
• 1:04:12
  It's a valid question. It's.
• 1:04:14
  Because it's the easy answer. It's OK, I've this is a soapbox.
• 1:04:17
  I get on so fucking much. There is a stark difference
• 1:04:23
  between gritty realism, grim darkness and just depressing.
• 1:04:30
  Very, very, very distinct, different.
• 1:04:33
  Gritty realism is knowing that like, yeah, maybe your character
• 1:04:38
  can just die of the flu. That's gritty realism, right?
• 1:04:42
  You're like, you got, you got to cut, you got infected, roll on a
• 1:04:44
  table. Now you have, you know, now you
• 1:04:47
  have fucking tetanus or rabies, or you drank water and now you
• 1:04:52
  have typhus, right? That's gritty realism.
• 1:04:54
  Expecting a level of crunch and upkeep because the real world is
• 1:04:58
  trying to kill you pretty regularly.
• 1:05:02
  Grim darkness, as in like the grim darkness of the 41st
• 1:05:06
  Millennium, is not about everything being bad and sucking
• 1:05:10
  all the time. That's not the fucking point of
• 1:05:13
  grim darkness. Grim darkness means that at the
• 1:05:16
  end of the day, victories are pyrrhic.
• 1:05:20
  You lose a mile to gain an inch. That is the idea.
• 1:05:24
  Everything is teetering on a knife edge and you don't really
• 1:05:27
  know when it's going to go bad. But within grim darkness, if you
• 1:05:31
  don't have things like revelry and joy and cooperation and
• 1:05:36
  valiant last stands or like romance and it's not grim
• 1:05:42
  darkness, there's nothing it like.
• 1:05:43
  The grimness of it is seeing how people could be when they work
• 1:05:47
  together and then watching as people unfortunately fail
• 1:05:50
  because of their personal weaknesses.
• 1:05:55
  What you're describing is just fucking depression.
• 1:05:58
  No one likes each other, nobody gets along, everybody
• 1:06:00
  backstabbing each other. You're just describing like
• 1:06:02
  fucking you're. You're describing like this
• 1:06:05
  scaven but like with none of the fun parts of the scaven.
• 1:06:11
  Like as someone who's played in this kind of setting, it is so
• 1:06:16
  fucking taxing and draining when every character treats you like
• 1:06:20
  a dog shit. And like I I'm just seeing that
• 1:06:24
  the first comment here is referencing Game of Thrones.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah. Living in Game of Thrones sucks.
• 1:06:31
  It sucks as much as living in medieval times.
• 1:06:35
  But have you noticed when you watch Game of Thrones, people
• 1:06:39
  who like from warring factions get along pretty well and like.
• 1:06:45
  I haven't watched it, so no, but take a word for it.
• 1:06:50
  The point being is that the powers that be do the evil shit
• 1:06:53
  and it's the people on the bottom who suffer through it,
• 1:06:56
  and more often than not they suffer through it together.
• 1:06:59
  They're not constantly at each other's fucking throats just
• 1:07:01
  because you belong to a different place.
• 1:07:03
  Like bro. OK, but I don't feel like you
• 1:07:09
  totally answered the question here though is specifically no,
• 1:07:13
  I said because why does? It answer people don't know how
• 1:07:16
  to create the nuance of a truly tragic setting.
• 1:07:20
  It's easier to get cheap payoff by everyone being a Dick to you
• 1:07:25
  all the time. But how is why do they call it
• 1:07:29
  realism? Like why are they coding it and
• 1:07:32
  claiming it's realistic when they just want to be like sad
• 1:07:34
  and dour because I use the. Cover because they are using the
• 1:07:38
  idea that life can suck and often fantasy is about better
• 1:07:45
  tomorrow's. Whereas like you know, Game of
• 1:07:48
  Thrones, people die easily. Things bad shit just happens to
• 1:07:52
  good people, that's realistic. That happens.
• 1:07:55
  Bad things do happen to good people, but if nothing good ever
• 1:07:59
  happens to good people, that's not realistic.
• 1:08:02
  You're not taking into like, the natural chaos of the universe.
• 1:08:06
  Good shit happens and bad shit happens.
• 1:08:10
  I will say somebody left a little comment on this one that
• 1:08:13
  I I thought was pretty good like analysis, they said.
• 1:08:19
  Because some folk who run games online aren't exactly the kind
• 1:08:22
  of people who are socially well adjusted, and from those few a
• 1:08:27
  good amount like to give their type of weirdness a paint job
• 1:08:30
  that makes it look legit. Realistic in this case is
• 1:08:33
  translating to well in real life I don't like my life.
• 1:08:37
  So if my life is unfair and Gray and if I had the chance to stab
• 1:08:40
  people I vaguely disliked or otherwise exploit I think is a
• 1:08:44
  weak I think is weaker than me in real life.
• 1:08:46
  I do it in a heartbeat. Therefore this is realistic as
• 1:08:49
  everyone is as much of A jerk as I am.
• 1:08:53
  It's like, yeah, the degrees of that can shift, right?
• 1:08:57
  The, not the. Idea that.
• 1:08:59
  But. Well, yeah, but the idea that
• 1:09:01
  someone's like, I feel shitty about my life, so everyone must
• 1:09:04
  feel the way I'm feeling. It's like, yeah.
• 1:09:08
  It's fucking brutal, dog. It's not fun to play in those
• 1:09:11
  kind of settings. I, I try to to instill a level
• 1:09:17
  of grim darkness into Lancer when I'm running, right?
• 1:09:20
  Bad things do happen to good people, shit gets fucked up bad,
• 1:09:24
  and people are treated very poorly.
• 1:09:26
  But there is such a reverie in my campaign.
• 1:09:31
  Characters are just irreverent and they laugh really hard and
• 1:09:35
  people have good times and party like fucking animals because
• 1:09:38
  tomorrow could suck. So have a good time today, you
• 1:09:42
  know. There is a, I don't remember
• 1:09:48
  what culture it is, but there's a particular culture, but that's
• 1:09:50
  like a whole. It's like a whole ethos they
• 1:09:52
  have is like party hard now because like could be big L's
• 1:09:56
  tomorrow. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  All right, so how about waifu harem though?
• 1:10:03
  Oh God, waifu harem. Good old #9 little #9 express,
• 1:10:08
  all right. This one's kind of just funny, I
• 1:10:10
  ain't even gonna lie. Is it OK?
• 1:10:12
  I think it is just. Jesus, this one is saucy.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah. Oh, not that.
• 1:10:19
  Not an essay warning it it. The essay warnings, kind of It's
• 1:10:25
  like half true. OK, all right, well, constant
• 1:10:28
  warning essay. They put the essay warning tag
• 1:10:31
  on it and like, yeah, sort of, but not really.
• 1:10:34
  OK so this one's titled Creep DM tries to build his own waifu
• 1:10:40
  harem, which I just is a great title.
• 1:10:44
  I am terrified. So the this is my first time
• 1:10:50
  writing something on Reddit and English is not my first leg and
• 1:10:53
  Coed should be patient. There are definitely a couple
• 1:10:55
  misspellings that threw me off here so I may I may get tripped
• 1:10:58
  up again reading it but my wife and me met the DM in a
• 1:11:03
  university and he seemed nerdy and like a really nice guy.
• 1:11:06
  Now, I would like to point out OP doesn't say this out
• 1:11:10
  outright, but I via context clues, I realized the person who
• 1:11:15
  posted this is also a lady, which might seem like a weird
• 1:11:18
  thing that I'm pointing out that it's a lesbian couple, but it's
• 1:11:21
  relevant. Understood.
• 1:11:24
  So just yeah, yeah, yeah. So keep that in mind.
• 1:11:27
  Yes, the person who's posting this is a lady, and they are
• 1:11:29
  also playing with their wife in this game.
• 1:11:32
  That is a relevance point. He was a bit awkward at times,
• 1:11:36
  but nothing out of the ordinary or creepy yet.
• 1:11:42
  For the first sessions, the plan was that only us 3 would be
• 1:11:47
  playing and then he would search for other players to join.
• 1:11:50
  Fine for us, we were hyped to try Pathfinder and learn how to
• 1:11:52
  play. She didn't mention the third
• 1:11:56
  player, but there's a third player.
• 1:11:57
  But we'll get there in a SEC. We started character creation
• 1:12:02
  and some things were a bit off, but I couldn't put my finger on
• 1:12:05
  it at the time. He began to hint to my wife that
• 1:12:08
  she should play a front liner and was kind of disappointed
• 1:12:11
  that she chose to play a male Mystic but let it slide.
• 1:12:17
  At the same time. I created a female fighter.
• 1:12:24
  He was. He showed me some races that he
• 1:12:27
  deemed fitting for female characters.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah, that should have been the first red flag, but at the time
• 1:12:35
  I thought he meant what would be the best for your female fighter
• 1:12:39
  and worded it awkwardly. Which, like, fair.
• 1:12:41
  If you don't know someone that well, you give him a little bit
• 1:12:44
  of the benefit of the doubt. OK.
• 1:12:46
  I chose a changeling because I thought her race could make a
• 1:12:49
  fun plot point, overcoming her mother and all.
• 1:12:51
  I made her AI made her a buff. I made her buff butt, girly
• 1:12:56
  scars, muscles, flower crowns and love of things that smell
• 1:12:59
  good. I really loved her.
• 1:13:00
  She was kind strong. She was kind, strong and loyal.
• 1:13:03
  Side note, loved that character trope.
• 1:13:06
  A big buff. Dami Mommy, who?
• 1:13:08
  Also Carlacks. Yeah, the Carlack.
• 1:13:10
  Yeah, Kyle. Well, no.
• 1:13:12
  No, but like, more than Carlack like.
• 1:13:16
  No way from Doro Headoro 6 foot 5 loves high heels.
• 1:13:20
  Yes, yes yes. The no way for yes, giant
• 1:13:23
  massive woman but like gorgeous likes dresses and flowers and
• 1:13:27
  all that yes. Amazonian.
• 1:13:29
  Who wants to be feminine? My Queen.
• 1:13:31
  Yes, love that energy. Yeah, fair enough.
• 1:13:33
  Good trope. Good trope.
• 1:13:35
  The DM. Didn't like her at all.
• 1:13:39
  Shame. What a loser.
• 1:13:42
  And here we get the first real good juicy one.
• 1:13:45
  In the first session he made us roll for Dick and boob size just
• 1:13:55
  to be a weird little fuck. Oh just to be one of those guys.
• 1:14:02
  We laughed it off and I decided to not roll and let her have
• 1:14:06
  smaller boobs. He was upset and ignored her
• 1:14:09
  most of the time or was weirdly mean towards my character
• 1:14:12
  because she got tighty titties. You know, totally reasonable
• 1:14:17
  thing to be mad about. As you do.
• 1:14:19
  As you do. He oh, Reddit was having a
• 1:14:24
  moment there. I just lost where I was, damn
• 1:14:28
  it. Oh no, OK.
• 1:14:31
  He introduced us to his world, in which every character is at
• 1:14:35
  least bisexual. It's just like a crazy thing to
• 1:14:40
  be like everyone, everyone. Everyone is player sexual one.
• 1:14:46
  Is player sick? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:14:49
  More accurate to say everyone's DM sexual in this case because
• 1:14:52
  later we found out it was so that every character, especially
• 1:14:56
  the women would be into his DMPC.
• 1:14:59
  Oh, no. OK.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah, his DMC, Pete, his DI can't even.
• 1:15:14
  Oh, I'm losing it. His DMPC was a beautiful Bard
• 1:15:19
  lady. Everyone knew her, everyone
• 1:15:21
  liked her, everyone was into her.
• 1:15:23
  He showed us a picture he had drawn, which I I really wanted
• 1:15:28
  it to be like. It was a really shitty drawing,
• 1:15:30
  but. Apparently not.
• 1:15:31
  Yeah, no, apparently it's actually pretty good.
• 1:15:33
  He was a skilled artist, but boy was she sexualized.
• 1:15:37
  Oh no. He named her after his
• 1:15:40
  girlfriend so we thought OK maybe she is made after her
• 1:15:45
  liking and the horses went wild with him.
• 1:15:47
  I don't know what the fuck that means.
• 1:15:50
  I I think he, he made her to his girlfriend's liking and then
• 1:15:55
  like I think just meant they just like ran wild with it, like
• 1:16:00
  it got out. Of hand, yeah, maybe.
• 1:16:02
  I don't know, he couldn't take it that our characters weren't
• 1:16:07
  totally into her and found her suspicious after she actively
• 1:16:11
  stole from us. Which like lol.
• 1:16:16
  The next the next session he introduced us to his real life
• 1:16:20
  girlfriend that would join our game.
• 1:16:22
  She was nice and fun but meeting her started the real horror.
• 1:16:26
  Not because of her, though. I know the way this person
• 1:16:30
  buries the lead on this is really good 'cause there's a,
• 1:16:33
  there's a, there's a plot twist coming in here.
• 1:16:34
  I'm bro, I'm not ready. There's a plot.
• 1:16:37
  Twist. It's great.
• 1:16:38
  I just see something that says wrong and I'm scared.
• 1:16:41
  It's only a couple paragraphs of where I'm so scared.
• 1:16:45
  There's a good plot twist after that.
• 1:16:47
  The red flags were accompanied by sirens.
• 1:16:56
  He said he started to argue with us that it wasn't rape when
• 1:17:01
  somebody used magic or potions on someone that didn't want to
• 1:17:04
  have sex with them because they wouldn't remember or think they
• 1:17:08
  wanted it afterwards. He didn't understand why drugs
• 1:17:11
  or alcohol were the real life equivalent for that stuff and
• 1:17:14
  why we were so sensitive with that topic.
• 1:17:17
  His girlfriend was on our side, which like I, I don't know how
• 1:17:24
  you're missing that one, bud, but all right.
• 1:17:25
  After one session, he started telling Have you seen?
• 1:17:29
  Have you? Have you seen the green text
• 1:17:31
  about the the Enchanter wizard? I don't think so.
• 1:17:35
  OK, I please someone on the Internet, if you can find this
• 1:17:39
  fucking green text, tell me there's a there's a, a thing.
• 1:17:42
  I I, I read once where problem player was playing a enchanter
• 1:17:49
  wizard and was basically doing this but was just enthralling
• 1:17:54
  people. It's like no, it's not weird
• 1:17:55
  because it's magic. It's not it's not assault
• 1:17:58
  because it's magic. I'm just making them want to
• 1:18:00
  believe they want it. Like oh oh dude, brother.
• 1:18:07
  Nice. Please, someone find that
• 1:18:10
  someone, I beg of you. I could be misremembering a
• 1:18:13
  little bit, but on like on the the argument the person made,
• 1:18:16
  but I'm pretty similar to that, yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Yeah, yeah. So after after one session, he
• 1:18:26
  started to tell me my character would die in the next fight just
• 1:18:30
  like that. First I thought he was trying to
• 1:18:32
  warn me and help me be prepared for the next fight.
• 1:18:34
  So I searched up and down for things I could do and he denied
• 1:18:37
  every idea I had beforehand. He always just circled back to
• 1:18:41
  Nah, she will die. But I created a better character
• 1:18:44
  for you, my sexy sex worker Kitsune Bard and that knows my
• 1:18:49
  DMPCI. Think they dated or something.
• 1:18:52
  Just play her that's easy you will like it.
• 1:18:55
  I didn't, I just wanted to play my girly pop berserker.
• 1:18:59
  Girly pop is good, I like that. It's a great way to put it.
• 1:19:02
  Between the sessions, he told us about how his abusive girlfriend
• 1:19:07
  all right, sorry. He told us about how abusive his
• 1:19:09
  girlfriend was and that she was cheating on him, which was weird
• 1:19:13
  because we weren't that close with both of them at the time
• 1:19:16
  and she seemed really nice. Nonetheless, we were there for
• 1:19:19
  him. Oh baby, we're getting to the
• 1:19:22
  good one. In the session after he made
• 1:19:26
  that, he made his girlfriend's character drunk and forced her
• 1:19:30
  to roll if the DMPC and her had sex and how good it was.
• 1:19:34
  Oh my. God.
• 1:19:35
  Yep, yeah, the classic roll for roll for did you fuck is like
• 1:19:40
  every creepy weirdo who runs a creepy DND game does this one
• 1:19:45
  OK? It's so stereotypical.
• 1:19:47
  I can't. There's a podcast I watch of
• 1:19:49
  these two guys and they were watching, they were watching
• 1:19:54
  Mighty 9 and talking about it and one of them was like, I ship
• 1:19:58
  Jester with Molly and he and the other guy was like, no, are you
• 1:20:02
  fucking kidding me? No, you're not going to have
• 1:20:05
  Laura Bailey's actual husband playing the actual love interest
• 1:20:09
  and be like, no, I shipped this too.
• 1:20:11
  As if he's going to be like I roll for.
• 1:20:13
  Does she like that? I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:20:21
  She. Liked.
• 1:20:22
  That it set me off. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:20:23
  It had me in tears. By the way, Otaku is Anonymous
• 1:20:26
  is the podcast with with Nick Hammer and Danny Moto.
• 1:20:29
  Very good. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:33
  So yes, creepy GM is having his girlfriend's character
• 1:20:38
  potentially fuck his DM. Roll for Did she like that?
• 1:20:41
  Roll for yeah OP says my wife and I were uncomfortable but
• 1:20:46
  they were dating right Maybe they had made-up and were really
• 1:20:49
  hot for one another and he knows her boundaries right The next
• 1:20:53
  time we could just talk to them and say that was weird, right?
• 1:20:57
  Wrong. I mean, like, yeah, fair, like
• 1:21:01
  there could be some scenario where the the two people in
• 1:21:04
  question don't think that's weird, but don't do it.
• 1:21:07
  I there's ways to go about that one anyway.
• 1:21:09
  Yeah, yeah, I'm. Doing this.
• 1:21:12
  Here comes the plot twist. Wrong.
• 1:21:16
  We drive her home and talk to her about it and she was
• 1:21:19
  confused because they never dated.
• 1:21:27
  What They were never a couple. He lied to us.
• 1:21:34
  He thought when we thought they were dating we would we would
• 1:21:38
  convince her that he was a good guy and that she would fall for
• 1:21:42
  him. The guy he told us she cheated
• 1:21:45
  with, that was her actual boyfriend.
• 1:21:47
  What? What is?
• 1:21:50
  What is this Arcanum level nonsense?
• 1:21:54
  You got me so fucked up. Yes, Sir.
• 1:22:00
  That was my favorite bit. Nothing would have prepared me
• 1:22:03
  for that. That's not where I thought this
• 1:22:06
  was going. I know.
• 1:22:12
  My the, the way, the way that this person, the way that this
• 1:22:18
  poster buried the lead on that was so good.
• 1:22:24
  It's such a good plot to waste. Oh my God.
• 1:22:29
  I know it takes such a good turn right at the end there.
• 1:22:31
  It's like dog. I just, I'm sorry.
• 1:22:34
  You have to. You really have to.
• 1:22:37
  We drove her home and talked to her about it and she was
• 1:22:39
  confused because they never dated.
• 1:22:42
  They were never a couple. He lied to us.
• 1:22:45
  Like, yeah, it's great. You can like you can see the
• 1:22:49
  Charlie Day conspiracy. I think that part is like the
• 1:22:55
  way that this, that she wrote this too is particularly funny
• 1:22:58
  because it reads you can like see the, the sitcom scene.
• 1:23:03
  You know what I mean? Like the way the, the like you
• 1:23:06
  can see the script, read the acting.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah. For.
• 1:23:09
  Sure. So after that DND was over for
• 1:23:14
  us. He really tried to build his own
• 1:23:18
  PC harem with female characters and players he found desirable.
• 1:23:24
  We. We later found out that my wife
• 1:23:27
  could only play a man because he thought she was the man in our
• 1:23:31
  relationship and found her not sexy because she is strong
• 1:23:35
  willed and not really into girly stuff like the not girlfriend
• 1:23:39
  and me. We also found more things.
• 1:23:43
  We also found more things about found out more things about him.
• 1:23:46
  He sexually harassed 2 girls and the not girlfriend 2 outside of
• 1:23:50
  D&D. He also used our messages after
• 1:23:53
  he told us she cheated to gaslight her that the harassment
• 1:23:56
  wasn't harassment slash not so bad because two other women were
• 1:24:00
  on his side after finding out. After finding out that we did
• 1:24:05
  the only reasonable thing, we went to the police and after
• 1:24:09
  that they told us nothing will come out of it if she files a
• 1:24:11
  report. So we searched for the telephone
• 1:24:15
  number of his parents and called them.
• 1:24:18
  Yo. Telling his dad what he did but
• 1:24:24
  this is this is the this is the good ending on this one.
• 1:24:26
  His father was sadly not surprised but mad as fuck and
• 1:24:31
  took care of him, sending him to therapy and cutting off the
• 1:24:35
  money for his apartment. I'm.
• 1:24:40
  Not surprised. Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Yeah. Can you imagine if it was like,
• 1:24:45
  hey, your son sexually harassed me and my girlfriend and a
• 1:24:51
  random woman, he lied to us and gas lit up into thinking he was
• 1:24:54
  dating to get him to get this person to actually date him.
• 1:24:58
  And your father goes, yeah, that checks out.
• 1:25:03
  Yep. Yeah, that's rough, bud.
• 1:25:08
  I'm not going to say motherfucking KMS.
• 1:25:13
  It's pretty bad. I mean, I, I just, the, the fact
• 1:25:21
  that they, the fact that Opie went out of her way to like
• 1:25:25
  call, call his parents and tell his dad bro, he's crazy.
• 1:25:30
  Sometimes I think that's what it takes.
• 1:25:32
  You just got to hit him where it.
• 1:25:33
  Hurts. My dad was like, whoa, whoa,
• 1:25:36
  whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's talk about this.
• 1:25:39
  And I'm telling you, dad, bro. They're in college.
• 1:25:44
  What's all happened, man? Yeah, my wife and me met the DM
• 1:25:49
  in university. Right.
• 1:25:52
  So like that's why the part that I think the funniest part to the
• 1:25:57
  ending there is sending him to therapy, but the cutting off his
• 1:26:01
  money for his apartment is diabolical.
• 1:26:06
  So funny. Like he's like Nah, you, you're
• 1:26:09
  just going to lose that lease bitch.
• 1:26:10
  Yeah, consequences or a bitch, ain't they?
• 1:26:17
  Yeah also like someone someone commented I would have left the
• 1:26:23
  second he asked to roll for Dick and boob size.
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  And she's like nowadays I would too.
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  But back then I didn't want to make a scene because of a joke
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  or a quote. Like you fool, yeah, I get it,
• 1:26:36
  but it is still funny. I like if that didn't get me to.
• 1:26:43
  Leave a role for. Does she like that?
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  I'm. I'm out.
• 1:26:47
  Yeah, I'm out. I don't care if it's consensual.
• 1:26:49
  I'm fucking out. I'm not doing it.
• 1:26:53
  Oh my God. I mean, and like, yeah, again,
• 1:26:57
  it like there could be some situation where that is like a
• 1:27:01
  consensual thing, but yeah, don't be doing it in front of
• 1:27:03
  everybody like that. What the fuck?
• 1:27:04
  Yeah, I know, Literally SpongeBob or my head out.
• 1:27:08
  Or like, if you do do it a little bit in front of everyone,
• 1:27:10
  like be quick about it, make a goof about it, move on.
• 1:27:12
  You know what I mean? Like don't, don't be lingering
• 1:27:14
  on that shit. Don't be making rolls and shit.
• 1:27:16
  What the hell? I OK, like you know, to that
• 1:27:18
  point, I think I would laugh if if the girl the quote UN quote,
• 1:27:21
  the girlfriend rolled AD 20 and went you did well, that would
• 1:27:25
  that would kill me. That would be funny as fuck.
• 1:27:27
  But yeah, don't. Right.
• 1:27:29
  That that's what I mean. Like there is a scenario where
• 1:27:31
  you could do that if you know, the people are dating, what's
• 1:27:33
  the scenario? You could do it and it could be
• 1:27:35
  like a funny little bit and like, you know, maybe they
• 1:27:39
  whisper it to each other that night or whatever.
• 1:27:41
  But like, yeah, don't make it like a whole ass thing.
• 1:27:50
  Yeah, but really, the way this person wrote in the plot twist
• 1:27:56
  is the bit that really just fucking sent me over the edge.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah, she really, she set that one up.
• 1:28:04
  It wasn't his girlfriend. I was like, dog, what so funny.
• 1:28:09
  I just Oh my God. Also, what kind of what kind of
• 1:28:14
  crazy ass motherfucker you got to be to be like?
• 1:28:18
  All right, here is my master plan.
• 1:28:20
  I'm just going to gaslight her so hard.
• 1:28:24
  And she thinks that actually I'm a good guy and then she'll love
• 1:28:27
  me. I'm gonna gaslight her so hard
• 1:28:31
  and lie like I'm gonna gaslight her so much about being my
• 1:28:34
  girlfriend. She'll decide to actually be my
• 1:28:36
  girlfriend. It's like what?
• 1:28:39
  And And the way I'm gonna do it is by getting two other women
• 1:28:44
  who I'm friends with to basically say that I'm not that
• 1:28:49
  bad. And somehow that's gonna
• 1:28:52
  convince her. Like what?
• 1:28:56
  That's not. There's just no scenario where
• 1:29:01
  that's how that works. Yeah, there's no shot.
• 1:29:03
  There's there's no shot like. Like even if let's say, let's
• 1:29:09
  take the creepy parts out of it and let's just do the the more
• 1:29:12
  innocuous bit of it where he, like he tries to get two of his
• 1:29:15
  free male friends to talk positively about him.
• 1:29:19
  I don't see that convincing a woman, a woman to be suddenly
• 1:29:22
  into you. Like you know what I mean?
• 1:29:26
  I feel like the simplest answer is just hey yo, can you wing man
• 1:29:28
  for me? Like right, Which is just be
• 1:29:31
  honest, just say it. Just be like, look, I'm trying
• 1:29:34
  to pick up jigs. Can you help me?
• 1:29:37
  I can't hear you. More often not, that'll go down
• 1:29:39
  better than you'd expect. Oh.
• 1:29:41
  For sure it will definitely go down better, but wing manning is
• 1:29:43
  not the same scenarios whatever the maneuver this motherfucker
• 1:29:46
  was trying to. Pull, right.
• 1:29:47
  Yes, true. Worth mentioning, yeah.
• 1:29:50
  And. And, and I feel like the only
• 1:29:53
  scenario where that's gonna work, like having two female
• 1:29:56
  friends talk positive about me to like shift this person's
• 1:29:59
  opinion. I feel like the only scenario
• 1:30:01
  where that's working is if she was already like maybe debating
• 1:30:05
  if she was in the like, you know, she was on the edge or
• 1:30:07
  something. True.
• 1:30:07
  Yes, very good point. Yeah.
• 1:30:09
  In that scenario, sure, but like.
• 1:30:11
  Brother, you had no shot. There was no shot.
• 1:30:15
  She. Had a boyfriend.
• 1:30:18
  She already had a boyfriend. You ever read that book?
• 1:30:20
  She's just not that into you. She's just not that into you.
• 1:30:24
  Oh my God, I get so funny. Anyway, yeah, I'm, I'm debating
• 1:30:37
  how hard, how much of A savage do I want to be?
• 1:30:40
  Say whatever, be as savage you want, I don't give a shit.
• 1:30:43
  Like brother, this is just such fucking loser behavior.
• 1:30:46
  Like I don't. Know yeah 100% you're.
• 1:30:47
  Such a fucking loser bro. I can't, I cannot.
• 1:30:52
  It's you are the reason why we need to have safety tools.
• 1:30:58
  I mean, yeah, pretty much. It's really that this is the
• 1:31:02
  kind of, I feel like this is the kind of dude who's going to go
• 1:31:04
  online and be like, God, women only want rich, sexy, hot men
• 1:31:10
  with abs. And they're like, I think
• 1:31:14
  there's a bit of a, a middle ground.
• 1:31:16
  If at some point this person procreates, I will take that as
• 1:31:19
  a personal failure on my part. Oh, my God.
• 1:31:28
  All right. Well, I think, I think we'll
• 1:31:30
  wrap it up with that one because it ends positively, more or
• 1:31:34
  less. And positively enough.
• 1:31:35
  Yeah, yeah, positively enough, right?
• 1:31:37
  He gets punished. Yeah.
• 1:31:40
  And it is funny. And also the I'm gonna call your
• 1:31:42
  mom is like. I'm calling.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah, I'm telling I'm. I'm.
• 1:31:46
  Telling you it's. So funny.
• 1:31:50
  Such a funny move, Oh my God. That is quite a gangster move,
• 1:31:56
  I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:59
  Anyway, if you liked all that nonsense, you may give us a
• 1:32:02
  follow on the social media. We also have a donation link in
• 1:32:06
  description if you're feeling generous.
• 1:32:10
  I promise we don't normally do this level of stupid.
• 1:32:16
  In fact, this is the first time we've done it.
• 1:32:18
  Yeah, we probably will Again, though it is.
• 1:32:21
  It is kind of amusing, I ain't even going to lie.
• 1:32:23
  It is pretty funny, yeah. It's.
• 1:32:26
  It's hard not to like, you know? Anyway, I normally I'd say
• 1:32:32
  closing thoughts, but there's no closing thoughts to be had here.
• 1:32:35
  Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just roll to see if she likes
• 1:32:40
  it. I don't know, see if she likes
• 1:32:42
  it. Oh my God, That's all I got.
• 1:32:48
  Peace, motherfuckers.