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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Crime Launch Daily from
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  Speaker 1: here in New York City. Divorcee finds a new law
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  Speaker 1: and starts a new family.
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  Speaker 2: It was his life. He would hold her brusha here.
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  Speaker 1: But on his way home from running errands, the Brooklyn
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  Speaker 1: father is amble shot dead on his doorstep from.
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  Speaker 3: Loud poppin Loran.
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  Speaker 4: She's on the phone.
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  Speaker 5: As he's doing yes, saying that she believes that the
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  Speaker 5: shoot is still inside the house.
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  Speaker 1: Was it a botched home invasion? Or was he set
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  Speaker 1: up three entrance houses?
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  Speaker 4: Totally?
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  Speaker 6: Nine hundred thousand dollars big money, big.
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  Speaker 1: Money, then in arrest. Twenty five years in the making.
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  Speaker 7: He's been among us, he's been in the community.
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  Speaker 1: A special education teacher disappears from her second job at
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  Speaker 1: a gift shop, only to be found dead.
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  Speaker 8: He said, we found her, and I went She's dead,
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  Speaker 8: isn't she? Now?
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  Speaker 1: After years of intense searching and ugly allegations.
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  Speaker 9: They were saying I did it, they're saying I knew
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  Speaker 9: did it.
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  Speaker 1: Police finally believe they know who the killer is.
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  Speaker 10: It was virtually impossible that this was ever going to happen,
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  Speaker 10: and then it did.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, So.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go Jason Motteler with Crimewatch Daily.
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  Speaker 11: I mus also going up from Crimewatch Day.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, let's be smart from Crimewatch Daily.
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  Speaker 2: It's Ana Garcia.
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  Speaker 1: From crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 13: You got anything to say?
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  Speaker 1: Crime Watch Dale? Don't know if he's thirteen?
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  Speaker 6: You're running away? Now.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to crime Watch Daily everyone, I'm Chris Hansen. We
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  Speaker 1: start today right here in New York Brooklyn, to be exact,
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  Speaker 1: where a father is gunned down outside his home, his
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  Speaker 1: wife and baby girl just inside the door. But this
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  Speaker 1: case would take a sudden turn when investigators realized he
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  Speaker 1: was shot with his own gun, one he wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: carrying that day. What a divorce say? In Brooklyn named
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  Speaker 1: Omr Murray met the girl next door, He took a
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  Speaker 1: second chance at love.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like her.
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  Speaker 1: Omar fell hard for Alicia Knowl. But two years later,
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  Speaker 1: the sacred bond to love and to cherish until death
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  Speaker 1: to his part, would be broken in an unholy haale
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  Speaker 1: of bullets, and Omar would die in what NYPD homicide
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  Speaker 1: detectives initially believed was a botched home invasion.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I still.
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  Speaker 4: At a window.
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  Speaker 2: He was a good person and.
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  Speaker 4: Deadness.
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  Speaker 1: Despite her heartbreak Omar's bomb. Eunus opened her home and
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  Speaker 1: her heart to me, sharing these family photos of her precious,
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  Speaker 1: fun loving son.
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  Speaker 14: Yes it's Omar, this isn't Country's find Where come from
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  Speaker 14: in my and why did you decide to move here
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  Speaker 14: from Mandria?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Better life?
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  Speaker 1: Omar thought he had found that better life with Alicia,
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  Speaker 1: but his mom was worried about their whirlwind romance.
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  Speaker 14: When I found out that they were engaged, I really
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  Speaker 14: wasn't too pleased about it.
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  Speaker 1: Eunice was concerned her son was rushing into another marriage
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  Speaker 1: with blinders on.
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  Speaker 2: He really liked this girl. That's why I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: try to turn.
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  Speaker 14: Just wait a while and see where it goes now,
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  Speaker 14: because it was happy, and you know, I want my
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  Speaker 14: children to be happy.
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  Speaker 1: But the opulent wedding festivities had cooled her misgivings about
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  Speaker 1: her new daughter in law.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was the right person for him.
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  Speaker 14: She was kind of quiet, the little control him, a
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  Speaker 14: little poss.
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  Speaker 1: Then baby daughter oh Maaya was born.
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  Speaker 2: It was his life. He would hold her Brushia, you're
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  Speaker 2: far back.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed marriage the second time around was the charm,
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  Speaker 1: his family says. The well paid iron worker lavished his
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  Speaker 1: new bride a home health aid with whatever she desired.
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  Speaker 13: I remember brother, You know, he's the type of person
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  Speaker 13: like he would give you the shirt off his.
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  Speaker 4: Back if she made your brother happy.
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  Speaker 13: That's exactly if he's happy, I'm happy.
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  Speaker 4: What kind of a person is Alicia?
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  Speaker 13: I thought she was a good person.
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  Speaker 1: But Omar's happy life with his new baby and wife
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  Speaker 1: would come to a sudden and violent ad. On a
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  Speaker 1: freezing day in February, he is returning home from the
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  Speaker 1: grocery store went out of nowhere in broad daylight. He's
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  Speaker 1: ambushed in the foyer of his Brooklyn, New York building.
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  Speaker 1: Three rapid shots ripped into Omar's chest.
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  Speaker 4: How did you hear that your brother had been shot
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  Speaker 4: to death?
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  Speaker 13: I remember it like it was yesterday. The phone, and
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  Speaker 13: it was my mother.
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  Speaker 6: Alicia told us. He'll told me.
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  Speaker 5: That that morning all mom was running errands and she
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  Speaker 5: was inside of her home taking care of her daughter.
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  Speaker 5: And as she's pacing back and forth with her daughter,
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  Speaker 5: she looks out the window and she's Omar pulled up
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  Speaker 5: to the house and exit his vehicle his groceries. She
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  Speaker 5: sees him walking towards the front door, and two seconds
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  Speaker 5: later shears gunshots.
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  Speaker 1: Then she hears omar screen.
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  Speaker 5: She says she hears omar saying mama, mama, mama. She
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  Speaker 5: calls nine one.
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  Speaker 15: One the emergency home.
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  Speaker 4: She's on the phone as she's doing Yes.
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  Speaker 3: From one house, and I heard and I was popping noise,
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  Speaker 3: your lord, my husband, baby?
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  Speaker 4: And where does she say she is?
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  Speaker 6: She says that she's in her bedroom.
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  Speaker 4: The bedroom, Yes, on the second floor with the door line. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: go shut one off the hose.
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  Speaker 1: In all this time, responders there having difficulty finding him
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  Speaker 1: as he lives.
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  Speaker 5: Time right because she's telling the nine one one operated
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  Speaker 5: that the shoulder may be in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Are deer, I mean the house and I need somebody
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  Speaker 4: to get me out of here. So what goes down
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  Speaker 4: after that?
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  Speaker 5: Emergency service units respond, remove the door, the ambulance rushes
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  Speaker 5: homeward to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Tragically, it's too late.
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  Speaker 4: He dies in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce signs homicide Detective
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  Speaker 1: David Senteno to the case.
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  Speaker 4: What did you think he had on your hands when you.
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  Speaker 6: First caught this, kas I thought it might have been
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  Speaker 6: a home invasion robbery.
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  Speaker 1: Centeno quickly catches a break a street surveillance camera captures
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  Speaker 1: this mysterious black car crawling up to Omar's residence. The
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  Speaker 1: passenger gets out and walks into the building. Centeno suspects
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  Speaker 1: that it might be his God.
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  Speaker 5: It gives you chills down his fine because as Omar
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  Speaker 5: is leaving his residence, there's a black vehicle, and the
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  Speaker 5: black vehicle pulls over across.
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  Speaker 1: The street up next. Was it a random robbery?
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  Speaker 6: I had no idea at the very beginning.
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  Speaker 1: But Omar's mom wasn't buying the botched burglary angle one bit.
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  Speaker 2: You kill my son.
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn iron worker Omar Murray is gunned down in what
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  Speaker 1: appears to be a botched home invasion, but as police
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  Speaker 1: would soon learn, the killer was after some money, but
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  Speaker 1: not the money in Omar's house. This picture perfect, happy
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  Speaker 1: couple with a brand new baby is shattered by three
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  Speaker 1: bullets on a cold winter day. Omar Murray gunned down
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  Speaker 1: in broad daylight just as he gets back to his
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn home from the corner store.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it might have been a home invasion robbery.
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  Speaker 1: But as detectives dig deeper, they discover cracks in the
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  Speaker 1: marriage that make them suspicious. Turns out the couple was
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  Speaker 1: deep in.
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  Speaker 5: Debt, understanding she was buying expensive bags, going on trips,
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  Speaker 5: and with all that money, her house was still in
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  Speaker 5: the process of foreclosure proceedings.
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  Speaker 13: She's the type of person that wants to be in
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  Speaker 13: the spotlight.
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  Speaker 4: She lived a pretty big lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that big lifestyle was carrying a freightload of
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  Speaker 1: IOU's car payments, a five hundred and seventy five thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars mortgage, and shopping spreees. The lavish spending was costing
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  Speaker 1: them their marriage.
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  Speaker 4: How bad did it get?
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  Speaker 13: My mother would call me twice, once saying that my
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  Speaker 13: brother just left the house to its freezing outside, barefooted
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  Speaker 13: with no jacket.
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  Speaker 1: Cops claim Alicia even stole one hundred thousand dollars from
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  Speaker 1: her own mother. Then detectives uncover another shocking secret. Alicia
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  Speaker 1: is having a torn fling with this man. A write
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  Speaker 1: a drugstore worker named Damian lovell.
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  Speaker 5: Alicia and Damien informed me that they would have sexual
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  Speaker 5: encounters in the home onto a second floor while Omar
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  Speaker 5: was upstairs taking care of the daughter.
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  Speaker 4: So wait a minute, Omar's upstairs taking care of the daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and Alicia and Damien are having sexual relations downstairs. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but it's early in the investigation and cops tread carefully
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  Speaker 1: before jumping to conclusions. They look at the evidence, starting
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  Speaker 1: with three security cameras inside the Murray apartment Omar and
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  Speaker 1: Alicia's home.
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  Speaker 6: We were hoping we were going to get some video footage.
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  Speaker 4: And what did you get?
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  Speaker 6: Nothing? Nothing at all on the cameras well disconnect it.
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  Speaker 4: Did that make you suspicious?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but there's more. This never before released street surveillance
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  Speaker 1: video and the man captured right here is Alicia's secret lover,
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  Speaker 1: Damien Lovell. Cops say he was on his way to
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  Speaker 1: pick up the murder weapon.
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  Speaker 4: Did Omar have any idea that this was going on?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 1: Alicia's defense attorney, went in Sharp, says she may be
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  Speaker 1: guilty of bad behavior, but Alicia is not the mastermind
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  Speaker 1: kind a plot to have her husband whacked.
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  Speaker 16: She mixed a fatal mistake. She decides to have sex
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  Speaker 16: with this guy, and yes, she did decide to have
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  Speaker 16: it in her house. That, however, does not equal murder.
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  Speaker 16: Unfortunately for my client, as soon as anyone hears that,
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  Speaker 16: it creates an emotional Oh my god, I can't believe
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  Speaker 16: she did that. Everyone takes a position she's a horrible person,
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  Speaker 16: you know, how could she do that?
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  Speaker 1: But detectives tell me this isn't the only time Alicia
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  Speaker 1: had tried to kill her husband.
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  Speaker 4: How did this relationship come off the rails?
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  Speaker 5: Alicia thought Omar was cheating on him. She attempted to
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  Speaker 5: poison him.
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  Speaker 4: Poison him? Yes, and how did she attempt to do this?
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  Speaker 6: She was poisoning this food.
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  Speaker 1: The prosecution charge your client tried to poison her husband.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely no, Well they didn't charge it.
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  Speaker 7: They just threw it out as they did elyntics.
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  Speaker 16: There was an accident and he went to the hospital.
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  Speaker 16: The specialist who they brought in said there was no
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  Speaker 16: evidence of any poison. So all they did was they
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  Speaker 16: put in the jury's mind that, oh, on our first occasion,
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  Speaker 16: he tried to poison.
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  Speaker 1: The police say Alicia gave her lover and crime thirty
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  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars and Omar's own gun to hire triggerman
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Portias, a CRIPS gang member. In this never before
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  Speaker 1: released surveillance video, a car drives up at twelve forty
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  Speaker 1: three and comps claim that it's Portias getting out on
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  Speaker 1: the passenger side. He walks into the entrance of Omar's building.
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  Speaker 1: Omar pulls up at twelve to fifty six and walks in.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly after that, you can see Portias hurry out in
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  Speaker 1: the other direction. Alicia's attorney doesn't dispute the video, but
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  Speaker 1: he insists Alicia is not the mastermind behind the murder.
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  Speaker 16: The person who murdered Omar in his home never met
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  Speaker 16: my client met him. The only person who had contact
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  Speaker 16: and planned this over weeks is Damian Lavelle.
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  Speaker 4: But what does Damian get out of it?
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  Speaker 7: He gets the lifestyle.
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  Speaker 4: He used my client as a skipgo.
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  Speaker 1: So why would Alicia want her new husband and father
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  Speaker 1: of her baby dead. Cops say there may be nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand reasons.
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  Speaker 6: Three entrance houses, totally nine hundred thousand dollars big money, big.
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  Speaker 1: Money, and Omar's brother says Alicia was going to get
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  Speaker 1: it all.
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  Speaker 13: Unfortunately he signed his own death mind.
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  Speaker 1: You kill my son right there at her son's gravesite.
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  Speaker 1: Omar's mom accuses Alicia of pretending to hide behind a
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  Speaker 1: mask of mourning.
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  Speaker 14: I said to her at the Federal you killed my
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  Speaker 14: son because of greed.
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  Speaker 1: Was Alicia the weeping widow or the dry eyed mastermind
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  Speaker 1: behind a murder for hire plot to kill her husband.
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  Speaker 2: I said, any idiot would know that this is an
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  Speaker 2: inside job.
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  Speaker 1: Despite her defense, Alicia is now on the top of
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  Speaker 1: the list of suspects. Insurance companies refused to shell out
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  Speaker 1: at Don cops hauling Damien Lovell for questioning he rats
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  Speaker 1: out his lover in return for a prison sentence of
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years to life.
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  Speaker 4: How was she when you interviewed her after the murder?
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  Speaker 6: Stone Cold?
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  Speaker 4: Stone Cold? Did that surprise you? Yes, your husband gets killed,
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  Speaker 4: you think you'd be emotional.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I thought, But cops say it wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: attitude that did her in. It was the evidence and
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  Speaker 1: the other man who claimed he loved her.
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  Speaker 4: What was the key to solving this chism?
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  Speaker 5: It was the cooperation from mister Lovell and at the
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  Speaker 5: time of the murder, the cell phone records that showed
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  Speaker 5: Alicia and Damien and constant contact with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Triggerman Kirk Portias is sentenced to life in prison, and
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  Speaker 1: the wife cops call the murderous mastermind, is stopped in
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  Speaker 1: her high heeled tracks, charge with first degree murder.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think would happen between him and Aalicia?
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  Speaker 6: I think they might live happily here after.
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  Speaker 1: It took the jury just three hours to convict the
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  Speaker 1: femme fatale, and the judge showed no mercy. Instead of
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  Speaker 1: pearls and champagne, it'll be handcuffs and stale sandwiches as
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  Speaker 1: she rots behind bars for the rest of her life.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not sorry that they didn't have the death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever scratch your head sometimes as a detective
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  Speaker 1: and wonder why don't people just get a divorce if
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  Speaker 1: they hate each other?
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  Speaker 4: Why need to kill someone?
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  Speaker 5: I think Alisa and he saw Dallas science. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think she can love. I don't think she could only hate.
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  Speaker 1: Alicia Noel Murray continues to maintain her innocence, and her
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  Speaker 1: attorney says she plans on appealing the conviction. Their daughter
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  Speaker 1: is now living with Murray's grandfather, who makes regular visits
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  Speaker 1: to see his daughter in prison. Calling up a killer
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  Speaker 1: walks into this gift shop, snatching the woman behind the counter.
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  Speaker 17: I always felt at somebody who's watching her?
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  Speaker 1: Who really killed Lisa Zeger? From the small town rumors.
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  Speaker 12: They decided for some reason that he was the person to.
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  Speaker 1: The eventual big break.
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  Speaker 10: It was virtually impossible that this was ever going to happen,
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  Speaker 10: and then it did.
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  Speaker 4: That's match.
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  Speaker 1: This next story is a very personal one for us
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  Speaker 1: here at Crime Watch. Danley, one of our top investigative producers,
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  Speaker 1: has spent just about her entire life searching for answers
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  Speaker 1: to one of Massachusetts' biggest unsolved murder mysteries. That's because
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  Speaker 1: she actually went to high school with the victim. Today,
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  Speaker 1: after twenty five years, there's finally been a huge development.
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  Speaker 12: Average siblings and an average family living a happy, average
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  Speaker 12: life in that small town that nothing ever happens.
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  Speaker 1: In until one day it does.
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  Speaker 17: But it's her parents where it's nightmare.
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  Speaker 12: It's a day that changes who you are forever.
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  Speaker 1: And exactly what happened will destroy this tight knit community's trust.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe a friend of a friend of a friend who
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  Speaker 8: might have become fixated with her and leave.
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  Speaker 1: Them pointing fingers at one another.
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  Speaker 8: Rumors about people who are close to us.
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  Speaker 1: The truth won't come easily, but prosecutors are determined to
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  Speaker 1: unearth the evil in their midst.
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  Speaker 3: We will solve this case, find the person who did this,
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  Speaker 3: and bring him to justice.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking through the eyes of a monster, seeing exactly
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  Speaker 1: what he saw. The night he entered this Agawam, Massachusetts
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  Speaker 1: gift shop with murder on his mind. But just four
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  Speaker 1: hours before he'll walk in, someone else will enter this storm.
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  Speaker 1: Her name Lisa Ziegert.
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  Speaker 8: She was the second of our four children. Curly curly
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  Speaker 8: brown hair, big blue lies, and a wonderful giggle that
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  Speaker 8: if you heard it you had to laugh. The smallest,
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  Speaker 8: she was tiny. She was only five to two. She
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  Speaker 8: was not a big person, but she was big inside.
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  Speaker 8: It were accounted.
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  Speaker 1: The twenty four year old is a teacher's assistant working
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  Speaker 1: with special education children. It's her passion, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: pay much, so, like many teachers, Lisa gets a second job.
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  Speaker 8: She started working in the gift shop. She worked there
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  Speaker 8: a couple of nights.
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  Speaker 1: A week, and on this night is Crime Watch Daily
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  Speaker 1: first investigated. It's an average Wednesday for Lisa, working behind
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  Speaker 1: the counter at Britney's gift shop.
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  Speaker 17: Her shift, which would start at five and usually end
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  Speaker 17: about nine o'clock at night, and like.
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  Speaker 1: Clockwork, one of Lisa's regulars stops in is her sister Lynn.
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  Speaker 12: I went into the card store and it was a
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  Speaker 12: very slow evening for her. She was talking to me
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  Speaker 12: about what she wanted to do with her life, how
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  Speaker 12: she was feeling about, you know, being in assistant teacher.
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  Speaker 1: Lynn eventually takes off and leaves her sister to finish
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  Speaker 1: her shift.
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  Speaker 12: A few people came in and out of the store,
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  Speaker 12: not anything out of the ordinary.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly after Lynn leaves, another customer stops by and makes
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  Speaker 1: a purchase according to a receipt timestamped eight twenty pm.
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  Speaker 1: Then not long after that, a final customer pops in
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  Speaker 1: right as the store is.
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  Speaker 17: Closing at nine o'clock. This customer comes to the store
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  Speaker 17: this story looks like it's still opening. She comes in,
• 18:30
  Speaker 17: she looks around. Nobody's coming to assist her, which she
• 18:34
  Speaker 17: feels his odd because the store is open.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: After looking around for a few minutes.
• 18:40
  Speaker 17: She thinks she hears some type of a noise in
• 18:43
  Speaker 17: the back area of the store. She does not investigate it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 17: She then leaves the store.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: The next morning, a co worker arrives to begin her
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: morning shift at the same gift shop. She too finds
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the door open, lights on, and.
• 18:57
  Speaker 17: She knows that Lisa car is still in the parking lot.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: But when this employee enters the store right away, she's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: unnerved by what she sees lying right next to the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: cash register.
• 19:08
  Speaker 17: She knows is Lisa's pocketbook. She knows Lisa sets a
• 19:11
  Speaker 17: key is still there.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But early Lisa is nowhere to be found. Frantic, the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: coworker calls nine to one one. At the same time,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Lisa's family is flooded by worried phone calls from Lisa's school,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: where she was a no show that morning.
• 19:26
  Speaker 12: No one is prepared for that. There's no way that
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: you wake up in the morning, or you go to
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: bed the night before and you say, I think tomorrow
• 19:33
  Speaker 12: is going to be a day that's going to change
• 19:36
  Speaker 12: my life.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: The Zigert family races to the gift shop and finds
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: it cordoned off and surrounded by police. Detectives on the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: scene interview Lisa's family and coworkers.
• 19:48
  Speaker 17: She was a very responsible young lady. This isn't some
• 19:51
  Speaker 17: way that just went out and didn't check in with
• 19:54
  Speaker 17: friends or anything like that. They knew relatively quick that
• 19:57
  Speaker 17: this is a mis in person case, a.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: True nightmare, a true nightmare. You keep helping that of course,
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: that oh, it's just a mistake, and she went someplace
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: and with someone.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But as investigators search the store, they make a chilling discovery.
• 20:17
  Speaker 17: There's evidence at the card shop. At that scene, there
• 20:20
  Speaker 17: is evidence of a struggle.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: In the back room as seen on this actual crime
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: scene footage, what appears to be shoe markings on a.
• 20:28
  Speaker 17: Door, and there is a small amount of blood at
• 20:32
  Speaker 17: the scene.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Right away, investigators believe Lisa Zeger isn't only missing, she
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was taken.
• 20:40
  Speaker 17: Everything indicated that she did not leave the store on
• 20:43
  Speaker 17: her own.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: A court but where did this abductor take the twenty
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: four year old school teacher. Multiple law enforcement agencies joined
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the search for Lisa, including the Agawan Police, Massachusetts State Police,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and the FBI.
• 20:58
  Speaker 17: I mean everybody. Everybody wanted this to end well.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Then on Easter Sunday, and four days after the school
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: teacher went missing, police get a.
• 21:09
  Speaker 17: Call from a resident indicating that he went for a
• 21:13
  Speaker 17: walk with his dog in the woods and he believes
• 21:16
  Speaker 17: he found some human remains.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: They are the remains of a young woman who has
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: been raped and staffed. Shortly after the grizzly find, a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: detective from the Agawam Police Department knocks on d Zer's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: front door.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: He said, we found her, and I went She's dead,
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: isn't she? And he had tears in his eyes, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: I don't remember. I remember kind of going to my knees,
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: the worst day of my life.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Coming up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: There's nothing that prepares you for that type of a scenario.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Who killed Lisa Ziegert?
• 21:58
  Speaker 17: She always felt as somebody who's watching.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Her, watching her from afar or perhaps up closed and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: very personal.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: There are rumors involving specific people. Lisa knew this offender, and.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Can science finally put a face on her killer. Twenty
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: four year old Massachusetts school teacher Lisa Ziegert is found
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: raped and stabbed to death just four days after she
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was abducted. But who took Lisa and killed her has
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: left the small New England town of Agaam shaken to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: its core.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 22:34
  Speaker 15: Now the crime of the decade, women being fearful getting
• 22:39
  Speaker 15: pistol primits, and because no one knew exactly what happened.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Cops on the case chased down every league.
• 22:47
  Speaker 15: A lot, hundreds of interviews.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Then investigators get a lucky break when they're able to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: extract the killer's DNA from the crime scene.
• 22:55
  Speaker 15: We've had the proverbial bloody fingerprint in this case, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 15: we just need to get that match.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: The crux of the case is attaching an identity that
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: at DNA and we likely had an offender.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But detectives in even Lisa's own family, take special note
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of the curious place where Lisa's body was discovered, a rural.
• 23:15
  Speaker 15: Area, no houses or anything like that around.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's not a visible turn off from the main road.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: In fact, it's a spot that someone would have to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: know in order to get there.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Always thought it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: Was somebody who's very familiar with the area, just based
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: on where she was found.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't take long for the small town rumor mill
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to start spinning, and as the months passed, the talk
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on the streets turns into a full fledged accusation. The
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: finger pointing is squarely at one man.
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: Edward Gotti, was a friend of my sister's.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Friend or fatal foe. Ed attended high school with Lisa
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and even live with Lisa's sister and boyfriend at the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: time she was murdered. Coincidence not according to the court
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of public opinion.
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: They decided for some reason that he was the person, and.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: There's something else. Not only were some residents claiming Ed
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: killed Lisa, but that police were.
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: Covering it up because Ed's dad was a member of
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: the police department.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But there's one huge problem with this theory. ED has
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a rock solid element.
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: I was working in the restaurant that night, you.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Know crime watched daily exclusive ED speaks out publicly for
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the first time since Lisa's murder.
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: I was working between my office and down on the floor,
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: and my sister was there waitressing. So I was with
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: my family and my friends that night. And there were
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: plenty of witnesses severify that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And according to Belice, Ed's DNA does not match the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: sample taken at the crime scene.
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: It was never anything to hide.
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: Ed is one of my dearest friends. ED had nothing
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: to do with it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Ed is immediately cleared by police without a suspect in custody.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Vicious rumors keep swirling.
• 24:56
  Speaker 12: They wouldn't let it go.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: My thought on the whole thing was just move ahead,
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: just keep moving forward, and not worry about what people think.
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: And you just know it's not true, and you just
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: continue to just live your life and.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Police continue with their investigation.
• 25:13
  Speaker 15: We just kept on getting samples from everyone that we could,
• 25:16
  Speaker 15: and we just always hope that at some point we
• 25:18
  Speaker 15: would get a DNA hit.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: But they don't get a hit. In fact, months, years
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and even decades go by twenty three years to be exact,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and there's still no DNA match.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: When it first happens, I think everyone thinks, you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: they watched the TV shows and you know CSI and
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: things like that, And in an hour, everything's gonna get
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: wrapped up. The person's going to be arrested, and everybody
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: is going to know what happened. And as time goes on,
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: you begin to understand how reality doesn't match that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: The case appears to be cold and on the fast
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: tract of Frozen the New DA Anthony Galooni remembers the case.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: He was a young boy growing up in the area
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: when the news first broke of Lisa's abduction and murder.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: I was in my adolescence at the time.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: You know, it's something that resonated and stuck with you
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and in some ways haunted the town of Aguaam and
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the people.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: Who experienced it. This case means the world to a
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: lot of people who.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Developed a commitment to Lisa and developed a commitment to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Lisa's family to tell them that we had the person
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: who's responsible for their dear daughter's death.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Then, just months into his administration, Diegalooni gets wind of
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: cutting edge technology known as phenotyping. It's a process that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: takes a DNA sample and turns it into a digital
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: composite sketch.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Today, I am releasing the snapshot from posit sketches as
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: developed by Paara.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Bonds to the Bubble. This forensic testing has predicted that
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Lisa's assailant has fair to very fear complexion, with soft
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: hazel or brown eyes in brown or black hairs. The
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Seagert family is front and center for the unveiling.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: We're so helpful, hopeful that this is going to bring
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: for Lisa the justice that she so richly deserves.
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: I thought, this is our chance, this is our biggest
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: chance in probably twenty years to find the person who
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: had killed her.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And when they look at the sketch of the man
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: who apparently took Lisha's life, it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: Was very difficult when I first saw it, trying to
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: think do I know that person? Did I go to
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: high school with them?
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Were we friends?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So cops have the killer's DNA and a composite of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: his face. Now they just need a name.
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: What's the face of a killer? It's hard to say,
• 27:49
  Speaker 15: but his face is one.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: We ended up looking back at persons who had been
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: identified for one reason or another, and then sort of
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: cross referencing that with people who had refus used to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: give their DNA voluntarily.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Then prosecutors make an unprecedented move.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: We went through a legal process that was devised by
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: our team led by myself and Captain Chris Wilcox, and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: through that legal process, we were attempting to compel a
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: certain identified, small list of individuals to provide their DNA.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Massachusetts State Police visit a handful of homes serving search
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: warrants to collect DNA samples. One person on the list
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: has been on their radar since the investigation began, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: refused to give his DNA at the time. When troopers
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: knock on his door, the man is not home, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: his roommate passes on the information.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: With essentially a message that state troopers are looking for
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you coming up. We thought this was and wrote a
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: series of notes that amounted to his confession.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Finally a colossal crack in the case.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: It was twenty five years of wonder and more and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: anxiety and hope all coming to a head.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But now their number one suspect is on the run.
• 29:08
  Speaker 15: It was all hands on deck to Gay's location.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: The loss of a child is something no parent should
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: ever have to endure, and adding to the pain was
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the fact that the Zegret family wasn't sure they were
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: walking past the unknown killer of their daughter every day.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well now, after years of wondering, police were about to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: make a surprising arrest. Massachusetts schoolteacher Lisa Ziegert has been
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: abducted and killed for twenty five years. Investigators tracked down
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: every lead and even use the latest technology to create
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: a composite sketch of her killer. The composite narrows down
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: their suspects, but when troopers attempt to collect DNA from
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: their remaining persons of interest, one man appears to skip town.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And at that point put him on our radar much
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: more significantly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Then the very next day, Massachusetts State troopers get a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: surprise visit.
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: Someone walked into a state police barracks and provided us
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: with some information that was very compelling.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It's potentially explosive evidence in the form of letters, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the writer none other than the man who is currently MIA.
• 30:19
  Speaker 15: I read the letters and at that moment I called
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: the disc attorney, Anthony Glogi and when we thought this
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: might be our guy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: He purportedly hand wrote a series of notes that amounted
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to his confession and responsibility for the killing of Lisa's eager.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: If true, police have a confessed killer on the loose,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and they have no idea what else this seemingly desperate
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and dangerous man is capable of doing. Right away, cops
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: issue an arrest warrant for their suspect and alert surrounding
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies to be on the lookout. They also
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: give a heads up to the Ziggert family that an
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: arrest could be imminent.
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: The police really wanted to share with us, but they
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: had to be very careful with what they shared. What
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: we knew was this is the best lead we've had
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: since the beginning of the investigation, and we're sorry we
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: can't tell you more.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Hours later, the fugitive is spotted outside of Massachusetts and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: police close in.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: He was tracked down to Connecticut, where he had made
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: some efforts to commit suicide.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: The man is treated for a failed overdose attempt and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: arrested a waiting extradition back to Massachusetts. Meanwhile, investigators get
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a search warrant and collect the suspects DNA from items
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: found at his home. The sample is sent out for
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: comparison against the DNA of Lisa's Zegurds killer, and after
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: years of waiting, it's just a matter of hours before
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the lab results come back.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I remember that moment very distinctly, and it was very
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: short email. I can remember seeing the word match underline.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: The next morning, the Segurts get a knock on their door,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one which they've been waiting a quarter of a century.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: Man, it was the DA, the Chief of Police, Oh,
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: my good head of the Detective Bureau. And they sat
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: us down and said, we got them, We got them.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: And it was like a cold wash going over you,
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: and then a flush and then a really are you sure,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: because over twenty five and a half years we've had
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: lots of looking.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Good investigators explained they have a written confession in DNA match.
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: My immediate thought to myself was, wow, this is finally it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: It was literally unbelievable in that after that amount of time,
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: you know, statistically, it was virtually impossible that this was
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: ever to happen, and then it did.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But exactly who is Lisa's alleged killer? The DA calls
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: an urgent news conference to reveal once and for all
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the man's identity.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Today, I am informing the public that the search for
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Lisa's assailant is over. Last Friday, September fifteenth, and arrest
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: warrant was issued from the Westfield District Court for Gary E. Shara,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: aged forty eight, of West Springfield, Massachusetts, which charges him
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: with the murder, aggravated rape, and kidnapping of Lisa's Eggert
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: on April fifteenth, nineteen ninety two.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: It was probably one of the strangest moments I've had
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: in my life, looking at the face a picture of
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: the person who had done this to our Lisa.
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: After twenty five years, being able to have a name,
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: have a face to put with the anger that I
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: had about my sister's killer was I was feeling like
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: at least I had a focus now.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And it turns out the local residents' worst fears were realized.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: He's been among us, He's been in the community.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: The suspect grew up in the neighboring town of Long Meadow,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: only five miles from Lisa's hometown of Agalon.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: He had been married and went through a divorce around
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the time or just before the murder.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: He has one child. That child is now adult.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And according to recent news reports, Gary's ex wife, Joyce MacDonald,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: told relatives at the time of Lisa's death that she
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: thought her husband was involved. Sadly no one took her
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: seriously because she was battling alcoholism. And what about a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: likeness to the earlier composite.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: I wasn't ready for to see his twin and I did.
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: For me, it was more important with the picture to
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: eliminate people as opposed to identify people.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: But do they recognize the man who allegedly murdered Lisia?
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: I have never heard the name Gary Shara. Before the
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: news conference, I had never heard of this person.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Lisa's friend Ed Burgotti, who lived the past two and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a half decades under a cloud of suspicion, is also
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: present at the press conference.
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: That's a feeling of incredible relief. A friend of mine
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: summed it up perfect and he said, for twenty five years,
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: he said, he woke up seventy percent, Edburgotti, and he said,
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: and today you're one hundred percent. And I appreciated that,
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: and that summed it up.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: Edberg Gotti is owed an apology by every person who
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: slandered him and had a mean and horrible comment to
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: say about him.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Well, the news conference is underway. Massachusetts State Police troopers
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: pick up the suspect from Connecticut and begin extradition back
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to Massachusetts. And as they make their way across Route
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: five South End Bridge connecting the two states.
• 36:04
  Speaker 15: There was a line of traffic and there was bumpet
• 36:05
  Speaker 15: a bumper, and people in the community knew that we
• 36:08
  Speaker 15: had them and we would bring them back. As we're
• 36:11
  Speaker 15: going through that traffic, people were literally putting their hands
• 36:13
  Speaker 15: out the windows of the cars, fist pumping that, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 15: so it felt good. That part of it felt felt
• 36:18
  Speaker 15: very rewarding to all the troopers and the local officers
• 36:22
  Speaker 15: that were involved in this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: There's a bit of excitement and joy about the prospect
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: of this being something real, but there was a lot
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: of caution too, because there were some false alarms in
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: the past over many, many years.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: The news media gets wind of an arrest and cameras
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: are recording as a police escort arrives outside the Agawam
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: police headquarters. It'll be the first time the community will
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: get a glimpse of the man who terrorized their small
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: town all those years ago. Then the moment everyone has
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: been waiting for, Gary Shara enters the court to be
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: charged with Lisa's murder in April fifteenth, nineteen ninety two,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: in the town of Aguam.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: You did commit murder aggravated rate in kidnapping.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: The Segret family is in court as the interest of plea,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: if not guilty. It is the first time they have
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: seen the man who stands accused of killing their Lisa.
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: I'm bordering between that angry and that that feeling that
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: you just your nomin and you don't have any feeling.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But for the Ziegertz, this trial is not about the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: man who allegedly murdered their daughter. It's about justice for Lisa.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: Your life will never be the same, but bringing the
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  Speaker 8: person to justice at least that's something you can do
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  Speaker 8: for them.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me here in New York now is the producer
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  Speaker 1: of the story you just watched, Karen Debrowska. Karen, thanks
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  Speaker 1: very much for being here. We've covered a lot of
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  Speaker 1: crime stories together, but this one, knowing the victim, in
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  Speaker 1: investigating the story that has to be difficult.
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  Speaker 11: It is thanks for having me here too, Chris. It
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  Speaker 11: was difficult because I actually went to school with Lisa.
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  Speaker 11: I graduated a year before her and It was really
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  Speaker 11: hard not to have it affect your life. I remember
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  Speaker 11: the day my mom called to tell me she was missing,
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  Speaker 11: and then days later that she had been found. And
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  Speaker 11: for the past twenty five years, it's kind of haunted
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  Speaker 11: all of us, and it's really sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's tragic.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of an impact did this have on this
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  Speaker 1: small town in Massachusetts called Agawam.
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  Speaker 11: I think for Agwam, where this type of thing doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 11: it was very hard. I think in the beginning people
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  Speaker 11: were afraid, was this a serial killer that came into town?
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  Speaker 11: Was this somebody that she knew that was still living
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  Speaker 11: amongst us? And I think for years to come, people
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  Speaker 11: just wanted answers. They just wanted to know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: You were recently in your hometown for your high school reunion.
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  Speaker 4: I assume this was the talk.
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  Speaker 1: Of the reunion.
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  Speaker 11: Everybody was talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Chris.
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  Speaker 11: I think everyone wanted to know why this happened. I
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  Speaker 11: think now that they had a name and knew that
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  Speaker 11: the killer was behind bars, I think at this point
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  Speaker 11: everyone wants to know why it happened. Did he know Lisa?
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  Speaker 1: Sara lived with and miles of the victims family for years.
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  Speaker 11: I think that's what makes Evo so angry, and I
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  Speaker 11: think he watched as the family kept looking for her killer.
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  Speaker 11: He watched the visuals happen, the fundraisers, and then he
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  Speaker 11: watched Edward Gotti go through this cloud of suspicion that
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  Speaker 11: he actually did this. That's evil, it's really messed up,
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  Speaker 11: and it angers a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Karen, thanks for a great reporting on this case. I
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  Speaker 1: know you'll continue to follow the story as Shara heads
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  Speaker 1: to court, and of course we'll bring you the very
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  Speaker 1: latest right here on Crimewatch Daily.