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Why Jaylen Brown ACTUALLY got traded, LeBron James next move, Balogun returns for US | 07.06 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 2: a hater. We're going to talk about what happens next
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  Speaker 2: for LeBron James, but you know, Got to be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you guys, man. I think all of us are
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  Speaker 2: like kind of coming to grips with what the new
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  Speaker 2: world order is about the NBA. And that's what happened
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  Speaker 2: to me. Like I had intentionally taken me a vacation
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  Speaker 2: so that I could come back like now, because in
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  Speaker 2: my mind now is like all free agency would have
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  Speaker 2: got back cracking. You understand what I'm saying? And then
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  Speaker 2: once that happened, boom, we'd have the stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: And I just missed the times that there wasn't nothing
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. But Ryan, no, it's not free agency
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  Speaker 2: season anymore. It's about trade season.
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  Speaker 3: Right. It's like trades, the draft, and like this weird
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  Speaker 3: in-between where the league year ends and starts and people
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  Speaker 3: trying to make all these acquisitions then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I did not expect it to be all
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  Speaker 2: this action in that time. I never would have left
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  Speaker 2: you under these circumstances if I had realized that that
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  Speaker 2: was what it was going to be. I did not.
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  Speaker 2: But what I really didn't think was that the biggest
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  Speaker 2: topic of conversation coming out of it was going to
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  Speaker 2: be Jalen fucking Brown. Like LeBron James is a free
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  Speaker 2: agent as of this moment.
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  Speaker 4: We got.
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  Speaker 2: other things that we could talk about a little bit
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  Speaker 2: lots of big trades top five player wound up being
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  Speaker 2: traded and I guess Jalen Brown is kind of sort
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  Speaker 2: of caught up in that also but he got the
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  Speaker 2: streets on fire Ryan from what I could tell from
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  Speaker 2: popping in on the internet while I was gone the
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  Speaker 2: the the people were in a frenzy over a dude
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  Speaker 2: that his team apparently could not wait to trade.
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  Speaker 3: Right I mean could not wait to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: and I mean it's not only that he got traded
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  Speaker 3: it's that he is uh discovered that he can livestream
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  Speaker 3: on his own, for better or for worse.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He done got twitchy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, he just... This is not a good idea for
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  Speaker 2: most of you guys. It's not a good idea for him.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into the why it's not a good idea
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  Speaker 2: for him part in a second. But I do want
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  Speaker 2: to start, before we get to the other stuff, because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to forget this. I do not understand
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  Speaker 2: you Boston Celtics. And look, I understand. I'm not making
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  Speaker 2: any point right now that nobody else has made in
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  Speaker 2: the last 10 days or whatever it is. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who the hell, Hugo or the other one was,
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  Speaker 2: that they said that they wouldn't trade in order to get... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to trade those dudes to get Giannis?
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  Speaker 2: And then all you get back off this cat is
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  Speaker 2: what's left of Paul George? Like, logically, I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: how you got that far down the line on the
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  Speaker 2: Giannis trade. And don't just go ahead and bring it home. Because,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would look at Brad Stevens as
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  Speaker 2: a Danny Ains disciple, and therefore you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: settle for a trade unless you get exactly what you
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  Speaker 2: want out of it. But all you wanted, really, for
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown was to get Paul George and, like, a
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  Speaker 2: smattering of picks. I do not, I do not understand this.
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  Speaker 2: I do understand the idea though, that once you decided
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  Speaker 2: you're going to put Jalen Brown in all these packages,
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  Speaker 2: then he needs to go ahead and trade them, which
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  Speaker 2: is why you just go ahead and do it for Giannis.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the way you're going to go about it.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, they did not. Now let's get to the
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown of it all, because I have been fascinating
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  Speaker 2: by what I've seen of the surrounding conversation when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to him. Um, And Jalen Brown is a very
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  Speaker 2: interesting type of player, which is a player that I
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  Speaker 2: think that generally speaking, all of us would say was
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  Speaker 2: a good player. And most of us would say is
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  Speaker 2: a very good player. And some people would say is
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  Speaker 2: an excellent player who has a distinct shortage of advanced numbers.
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  Speaker 2: that indicate that those things are true.
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think the thing about the analytics discussion that
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  Speaker 2: often gets lost is that, generally speaking, the analytics match
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  Speaker 2: up to what you think.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like you go look at who the players are that
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  Speaker 2: have the best advanced numbers for seasons and for careers.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the guys that you would expect to have
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  Speaker 2: those numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Michael Jordans. It's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. It's the Will Chamberlain's.
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  Speaker 2: It's the LeBron James. It's all those guys like there
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  Speaker 2: aren't too many people that pop up on those numbers
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, that's a shock. No, like generally speaking,
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  Speaker 2: they tell the story of what you might expect. But
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  Speaker 2: every now and then, you do wind up with a
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  Speaker 2: player where the advanced numbers do not match up with
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  Speaker 2: generally what we believe about how good those players are.
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  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant fits this description to a degree, though he's
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  Speaker 2: not an extreme example. Isaiah Thomas is an extreme example.
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  Speaker 2: The advanced numbers do not indicate that Isaiah Thomas is
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  Speaker 2: the Isaiah Thomas that We saw if you want a
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  Speaker 2: guy playing right now that I think also fits under
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  Speaker 2: this heading, that is Anthony Edwards. The advanced numbers are
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  Speaker 2: not saying that he is a bad player, but they
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  Speaker 2: don't speak to him as though he is a superstar,
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  Speaker 2: which I think most of us believe that he is.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is another guy who fits that description. Now,
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  Speaker 2: here's what Jalen Brown can do for you. Hey, what
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  Speaker 2: can Brown do for you? Anyway, here's what Jalen Brown
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  Speaker 2: can do for you. He can go get you 35.
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  Speaker 2: And this league, to this day, there is no more
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  Speaker 2: valuable skill than being able to go get buckets. It's
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  Speaker 2: a really, really important thing to be able to do.
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  Speaker 2: And Jalen Brown is able to go get buckets.
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  Speaker 3: Go get buckets in the regular season and in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Regular, yes. Yes, and I think the... But.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about that, though. Stick with me for
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  Speaker 2: a second on this, where I think is an important
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  Speaker 2: distinction to make. Where it's really helpful to have a
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is when your number two guy can go
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  Speaker 2: out there and get you 35.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Where your best player, for whatever reason, is only going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to get you 27. Don't worry, I'm
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  Speaker 2: over here. I can get you 35. I can do this, too.
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  Speaker 2: It's the value that Jalen Williams played with the Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: City Thunder in their championship run, for example. Like James
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  Speaker 2: Worthy is a great example of this in NBA history, right?
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  Speaker 2: If that other guy that you got can go get
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  Speaker 2: you 35 on a night where you need it. Kyrie Irving,
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  Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, right? Even if it's not a, I left
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  Speaker 2: the house today and I'm going to go get 35
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  Speaker 2: type of 35. Just acknowledge that, hey, we got another
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  Speaker 2: guy out here too that could also get you into
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  Speaker 2: high 30s if it comes down to it, right? That
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  Speaker 2: if he's really rolling, we can just say, it's your world,
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  Speaker 2: big baby. You can take it. There's a value in
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  Speaker 2: having that. The thing is, let I just say, it's
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  Speaker 2: really helpful to have that guy as your second best player.
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  Speaker 2: And he's getting paid like not just somebody's best player,
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  Speaker 2: but like the best player in the goddamn league. Like
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  Speaker 2: remember when he signed that contract, it was like the
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  Speaker 2: biggest contract in the history of the NBA. And It
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  Speaker 2: was the kind of contract that you signed guys to
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  Speaker 2: under the paradigm under which that deal was signed, which
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  Speaker 2: is if you are the Boston Celtics and your number
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  Speaker 2: two players deal is up, you pay them. It's also
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  Speaker 2: with an understanding of how the max contract worked, which
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  Speaker 2: is the max contract is a ceiling, which is to
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  Speaker 2: say that it is entirely possible that somebody's value exceeds that, right?
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  Speaker 2: The max contract under that era did not require that
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  Speaker 2: you grade on a curve. And what I mean by
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  Speaker 2: that is when you grade on a curve, one person
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  Speaker 2: gets the A +. Everybody else's grade is slotted based
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  Speaker 2: on that A +. It's not really how it worked there, right?
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  Speaker 2: The max contract thing is A plus is the highest grade.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, we got two guys that get A pluses.
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  Speaker 2: And so you go ahead and throw it out there, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Things are a little different now in the way the
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  Speaker 2: deals are done and the way the CBA is going
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  Speaker 2: to work. And Giving Robin all this money is something
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  Speaker 2: that teams are not going to be able to continue
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  Speaker 2: to do. And not only is it something that teams
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  Speaker 2: are not really going to be able to continue to do,
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  Speaker 2: those who have already given Robin these giant deals, those
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  Speaker 2: are the teams that are going to have to reckon
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  Speaker 2: with what those decisions are. This is a decision that
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  Speaker 2: the New York Knicks are going to have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with with Carl Anthony Towns. He's got that giant salary
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to have to deal with, with him
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  Speaker 2: being their second best player that you can't necessarily count on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Carl was great in the postseason, but we
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  Speaker 2: also saw how he ended the postseason. He wasn't great.
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  Speaker 2: He's not necessarily the guy that you can count on
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  Speaker 2: in the same way that Jalen Brown is not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: the guy that you can count on. And when you
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  Speaker 2: ask the question as to why it is that the
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  Speaker 2: Celtics probably needed to make this move, they needed to
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  Speaker 2: get from under that. And I think that there was
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  Speaker 2: a recognition that they needed to. And again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why you don't go get Giannis if that's the play.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe, look, something in their spreadsheet or whatever told
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  Speaker 2: them that the numbers are going to be bad in salary.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But there are a million different reasons
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  Speaker 2: to trade Jalen Brown. There are a bunch of them.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, though, and where it got weird, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that this happens often with these guys where the
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  Speaker 2: analytics tell a different story than a lot of our
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  Speaker 2: eye tests tell us, is somebody needs to come out
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  Speaker 2: here and seem really smart about explaining why it is
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  Speaker 2: that a team would trade him, and you wind up
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  Speaker 2: with something like what Bobby Marks reported, that somebody had
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  Speaker 2: told him that they saw Jalen Brown as the seventh
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  Speaker 2: best player on that team. Now, to me, I thought
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  Speaker 2: that was an interesting factoid and not really something worth
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  Speaker 2: being upset about. I thought it was an interesting factoid
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  Speaker 2: in that I bet there are numbers that you could
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  Speaker 2: point to where somebody will say that about him.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's their seventh best player.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like I did not receive that or hear that as
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  Speaker 2: the defining outlook as to what kind of player Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Brown was. But you can go look at those numbers
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  Speaker 2: and see how somebody would come to that conclusion. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But then once that happened, now it's a whole goddamn battle.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, this battle, we've talked about it in
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  Speaker 2: the past. It's the athletes versus the math elites.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And team captain for the athletes I saw was my
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  Speaker 2: man David West.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he was not hearing none of this shit from
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  Speaker 2: the math elites, dog.
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  Speaker 3: No. Even when he was on the Warriors, he was
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  Speaker 3: still taking 17-footers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, man, if you can make them,
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  Speaker 2: You can make them. The problem with the math elites,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, I don't know how many of these
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  Speaker 2: math elites were actual people, right? But the math elites
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  Speaker 2: get really, really, really defensive, right? The athletes also get really, really,
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  Speaker 2: really defensive. And I'm not saying this about David West,
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  Speaker 2: just to be clear. I want to say this part generally.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the athletes can feel a
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  Speaker 2: little insecure and feel like the math elites are saying
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  Speaker 2: they are smarter than them, which is often happening.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think often the math elites don't notice they
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  Speaker 2: doing it because when this happens in athlete versus math elite,
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  Speaker 2: it is very often white people versus black people. And
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  Speaker 2: that's just the way white folks talk to us. All
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  Speaker 2: the goddamn time.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They don't notice they're being patronized. It's just they just
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  Speaker 2: talk it right now. They talk to their fellow whites
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  Speaker 2: the same way when it comes to these things. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, the math elites have their insecurity
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  Speaker 2: because they dorks. and these other guys aren't, right? It's
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  Speaker 2: the tension that exists in all these spaces and all
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  Speaker 2: the time. It's always there. But in sports, the math
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  Speaker 2: elites took a disproportionate amount of power and decision-making and
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  Speaker 2: everything else, and often at the expense of the experiential
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  Speaker 2: knowledge that is possessed by the athletes, okay? But you
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  Speaker 2: don't even have to be a basketball player to get
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  Speaker 2: to Jalen Brown's, not the Celtics' seventh best player. But
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  Speaker 2: it is fair to ask Is he worth paying $ 50 million?
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  Speaker 3: A third of your salary slot for what is essentially
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  Speaker 3: becoming a hard cap sport. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Now, on another day, someone can explain to me how
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia is making this work with Maxie and Embiid already
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  Speaker 2: under that. Embiid's not different. We'll get to that part, right?
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  Speaker 2: But this is me talking. I believe that the numbers,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to call them necessarily advanced. I
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  Speaker 2: want to call them, we'll call them, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know if non-conventional is the right way to put it,
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  Speaker 2: because these numbers aren't necessarily advanced. But the on-off numbers
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  Speaker 2: have come up a lot for Jalen Brown. And I
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  Speaker 2: actually looked at the on-off numbers this morning before we
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  Speaker 2: recorded this, and I think there's a really interesting story
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  Speaker 2: there that's not actually being told for reasons that I
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  Speaker 2: don't quite understand. And for those who don't understand how
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  Speaker 2: on-off numbers work, it's very simple. It's just a matter
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  Speaker 2: of what is the point differential for your team when
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  Speaker 2: you are on the floor? What is the point differential
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  Speaker 2: for your team when you're not on your floor? Is
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  Speaker 2: your team better off when you are on the floor
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  Speaker 2: or off the floor? And for much of Jalen Brown's career,
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  Speaker 2: his teams have been better with him off the floor
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  Speaker 2: than they were with him on the floor. This includes
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  Speaker 2: the 2024 postseason where he won a conference finals MVP
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  Speaker 2: and NBA finals MVP. I want to say something per
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  Speaker 2: 100 possessions. They were 7.5 points worse with him on
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  Speaker 2: the floor than on. And this is when he won
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: That's not good. But you know who else doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: have great odd-off numbers or hasn't for the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of full seasons that he's played? Jason Tatum. And that
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  Speaker 2: was not always the case with Jason Tatum. I would
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  Speaker 2: also say that wasn't always the case with Jalen Brown
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  Speaker 2: from looking at the numbers. Something changed when Missoula took over.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a great answer for what it is.
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  Speaker 2: With Tatum, it gets better once he gets to the postseason,
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  Speaker 2: or it has gotten better in the postseason under Missoula,
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  Speaker 2: but not so much the same way with Jalen Brown. Now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe part of that is Missoula ball got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of try hard in it, and you can do a
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  Speaker 2: lot in the regular season just by trying hard. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? You can get a lot done
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  Speaker 2: trying hard. It don't necessarily work the same way in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason. But I say all that to say that
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  Speaker 2: the on-off stuff It begs more, it gives more questions,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, than answers when it comes to Brown,
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  Speaker 2: because I could say something very similar also about Jason Tatum, right? However,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think those numbers speak to a superstar caliber player.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't. You could say that Jalen Brown, and
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like what a lot of games where Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Brown has been there, that is true. The question is
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  Speaker 2: how much is his contribution to the winning, not just
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  Speaker 2: his contribution to the scoring. My man Tom Haberstroh, I
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  Speaker 2: believe it was him, he wrote something really interesting about
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  Speaker 2: like with numbers involving Brown. But it's one thing to
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  Speaker 2: be a really good offensive player. It's another thing to
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  Speaker 2: be an engine that the offense works off of. And
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  Speaker 2: he's not an engine. He's a guy that can go
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  Speaker 2: get you buckets. He's also a guy that dribbles a
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  Speaker 2: lot even though he can't dribble. And a guy that
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  Speaker 2: gets the ball took from him a lot because he
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  Speaker 2: dribbles a lot even though he can't dribble. You see
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, there's a complexity to who this
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  Speaker 2: guy is as a player. But in the end, he's
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  Speaker 2: able to get buckets. And getting buckets is important if
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  Speaker 2: we want to say you're getting buckets is important. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was saying that Kiki Vandeway was
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  Speaker 2: a top 10 player in the NBA back when Kiki
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  Speaker 2: Vandeway was averaging 30 points a game. For example. You know?
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  Speaker 3: Um.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, to me, Jalen Brown's probably in the top
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  Speaker 2: 20 class of player. By the way, it's really, really
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  Speaker 2: good guys up that high. Do I think he's a
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  Speaker 2: top 10 player? Probably not. Do I think that he's
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  Speaker 2: one of the best two-way players in the NBA? Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Brown is the new Klay Thompson, which is all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff I hear about how good he plays defense, yet
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  Speaker 2: nobody ever wants to put him on an all-defense team.
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't understand how those two things are
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the case at the same time. Right? Anyway... I say
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: all that to say there are reasons that the Celtics
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: would make a trade involving Jalen Brown that are easy
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to understand that don't require going into a hyperbolic space
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: in discussing him as a player or as a person
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: because Ryan, apparently while I was gone, did Colin kind
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: of get like, a little profiled, but it's his own
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: fault on this one.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yes. This is the short answer.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. So, so I want you to stay with me here.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Let me know if I'm, let me know if I'm,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: if I'm looking at this wrong, because this is the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: way that I looked at this. Colin Coward got on
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: after this trade and said something about talking to a
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: couple of NBA executives. And they say that Jalen Brown
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: has the disease of believing that he's the smartest person
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: in the room. And he went from there to say
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that basically he feels like the people he talked to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: feel like Jalen Brown doesn't listen to anybody. But his
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: explanation was, you get money and then dot, dot, dot.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yes. Right?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Which then quickly became, that's what they say about black people.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Sort of.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I am speaking in this conversation as
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: a person that has many times been accused of being,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of believing that he himself is the smartest person in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the room. Right? Like, I've been in this place and
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I understand it. I also say this as somebody who,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Who finds it incredibly frustrating when someone believes themselves to
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: be the smartest person in the room? And I don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: think they're as smart as me. We're going to keep
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: all those things together at one time here and get
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: back to the Colin part.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: The first time I heard people say that they believe
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that Jalen Brown had a problem believing he was the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: smartest guy in the room was six years ago coming
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: out of the bubble. And that was coming from black people. Okay,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: that was coming from the player end of things. This
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is not the first time anybody has said this about
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. It's not the first time this has been
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: said about anybody else. This is also something that white
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: people have to deal with people being frustrated with them
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: about all the time is the idea of you think
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you're the smartest person in the room. And again, there
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: are two types of circumstances where this happens, which is
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: when the problem really is that they don't like that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you're the smartest person in the room. And when people
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: know good and goddamn well that you are not.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I would also make the point that Jalen Brown on
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: his stream, his response to this idea that he thinks
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he's the smartest person in the room was to say
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the bar is pretty fucking low, which is exactly what
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you say when you believe you are the smartest person
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in the room.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: His defense to people saying everyone thinks he's the smartest
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: person in the room is, well, everyone else in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: room is pretty dumb. Yes, yes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: But by the way, people don't like... Right. I've said this.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard me say this, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: this is the truth. OK, if you exist in a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: space where people really, really believe that you're smart, it
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: behooves you to find a way to make that something
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that works for other people.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It behooves you. to find a way to present that
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: in a way where people appreciate having access to that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: resource as opposed to feeling like you always need to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: lord it over them. I was talking to a friend
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of mine, Ryan, that you may know, and I was
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: explaining to him that like, hey man, you're talking about
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: how His wife doesn't like it if she feels like
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: he is doing the I'm smarter than you thing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I know exactly what we're talking about.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And so my thing is, I'm like, hey, man, I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: said it to him, just level with him. I was like, hey, brother,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: this is what you got to understand. She knows this
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and she humbles herself every day before you with this recognition.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: You don't know what it's like to have to humble
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: yourself every day to the idea that somebody else is
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: smarter than you. I imagine that's not a lot of
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: fun to do, right? So you got to show deference
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to that fact.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, if you're actually smarter than, you know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if it really is.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Then it's on you to, you know, help the other
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: person in this relationship.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It's not an easy position to be in is what
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, right? And you got to get this. Jayla
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Brown's response.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Is.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It's for someone who hasn't learned that fact.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Well, someone hasn't learned that, but also the criticism of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: him among a lot of people is that it is
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the performance of smart that they don't like. Right. I
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: saw the internet catch on fire talking about this, this
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: whole notion of Jalen Brown. And well, you know, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: don't know how smart Jalen Brown is personally. I just
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: want to make two points. One Kyrie, his OG number two,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: He was represented by Donda Sports at a time where
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the president of the agency was Antonio Brown. Does that
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: sound like some smart shit to you? And I remember
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: when Antonio Brown was the head of Donda Sports, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: did a show with Dominique. We made short content about this.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You can find it. I did a show with Dominique
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: where I said that to him. And Dominique's first response was,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear nothing about how smart Jalen
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Brown is ever again.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Like like off off of that simple detail and right there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That's that's what we got. When people talk to me
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: about how smart Jalen Brown is, they always tell me
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. It's always some proxy. He he did a
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: lecture at Harvard. Right. He took a master's class when
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: he was in college. I had somebody talk about how
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: educated he was and I was like, he went to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: college for a year. Again, I'm not saying that he's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: not smart. I just haven't seen it myself personally. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: for me, the bar is pretty fucking high for us
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to get out here and have this discussion, right? Like
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: that's where it stands to be. But we didn't have
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to go to any of these places. It didn't have
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to get to any of this. Keep in mind, somebody
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was willing to trade for Kyrie and pay him. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: he's a much bigger pain in the ass, at least
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he was, than this guy has been, right?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I do think for the Celtics, you kind of had
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to look up and they said to themselves, this dude
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: scored 29 points a game, but he used 36% of
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the possessions.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Is that the world that they wanted to live in
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: going into the future? I don't think they did, right?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I just think that there were a lot of ways
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to talk about why Jalen Brown got traded. And internet
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: broke our brains. It seemed that so many people went
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: straight to the ones that were going to get people infuriated.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: as opposed to the one that used to get people
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: infuriated back in the day that just don't do the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: job no more. He makes $ 50 million! They don't want
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to pay that shit! Hey, man. Shout out to the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Lakers and LeBron James who realized there was no need
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to make it petty at the end, even though it
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: is very obvious that they told LeBron that he was
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: done in that town.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: They spent the last eight years making it petty. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, LeBron came out and said, hey, ladies,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: go on about their business. He won't be going back there.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, that's how that went. Yeah, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: believe you, dog. It's not how that went. This is
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: where I don't have any idea. I don't know what's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a good idea for anybody where you should go any
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of this stuff, right? He became very similar to Jalen
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Brown in the sense of, hey, man, this ain't no 50...
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: we don't pay you $ 50 million anymore.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: We used to, but we don't, we don't pay a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: guy like you $ 50 million anymore. Um, so what do
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: we do now? Where does he go? Your agent does
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a podcast where he does a flow chart, whatever the fuck,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: where he just had all the teams and all the,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that was the wildest thing I've ever seen. I've never,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the idea that your agent would turn this into content
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I am a flip flopping with between, uh, That is
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: terrible podcasting.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was great.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: And that is terrific podcasting.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: That was great content.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He's up there basically trying to prove the JFK assassination.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also a thorough explanation of the thought
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: process of the man who's been the face of the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: NBA for the last almost 20 years and where he
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: would go, like how the decisions are being made. You know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's weird that Rich gets on there and
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: talks about so many things. But if there's any place
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that Rich Paul has expertise, it's negotiating something for LeBron James.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And LeBron James' thought process and the big decisions.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the only thing about it is, no matter
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: what Rich Paul say, what has been very clear is
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: there's one man who makes decisions about what's going to happen.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It is LeBron James.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: And as far as I can tell, It's been a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: long time since LeBron James made a decision about where
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to play basketball that was simply a basketball decision. The
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: one time that he did that, everybody got mad at him.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So everything's been a story after that. He went to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Cleveland because he wanted to bring one home. He went
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to L.A. because he wanted to be a movie star, right?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: There's no telling what the ultimate driving and deciding factor
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: will be. I just think it's important to note that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you can't keep betting on things Year 24 health.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's not a wise play. He can't play with so
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: much defense. I thought he did a good job, obviously,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: as the third option or ever was in L.A., and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: then when they needed him to step up in the playoffs, obviously,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: he did that, and it went well. But I don't...
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: When they ran Barry Bonds out of baseball, he was
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: still one of the 10 best hitters in the league.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: It just kind of stopped being worth it. I don't...
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Are you winning a championship with LeBron James on your team?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I think there is... If he's a... If he takes
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the veteran minimum, which it sounds like he's going to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: have to, I think that's on the board.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I am so... Yeah, but I'm saying this. Even if
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he does.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: What is the level of contribution that you need from him?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: What is the team or the way that you put
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a team around him? How long is it going to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: be before teams just start hunting him on defense relentlessly?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Who are we here now? We're here in Miami. We're
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: here in Golden State.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: We're in Cleveland.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Cleveland.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: We're in Minnesota.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: That's... He ain't going to no goddamn Minnesota. Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was on the conspiracy whiteboard.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Let us not forget what would be interesting is former
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: clutch client Anthony Edwards in Minnesota.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't put that one together.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, man, we're going to get to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: this a little bit later also, but the idea of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, LaMelo Ball, and LeBron James, Minnesota is not.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Minnesota could barely handle Prince Morris and Jerome. At the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: same time, I don't know if they can handle all
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of this. God damn. That's a chaotic situation.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have to remember Kyler's going to be there, too.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: That's true. That is true.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: But it is crazy, though, that he is good enough
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: that we actually have to have.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: He's the best free agent available. Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I just don't know how
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: we keep doing this. And personally, I'm personally tired of it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just ready to move on to other stuff. The
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: other stuff is really dope in the league right now. Right. Like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: like this is, you know, this is, and this is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: really interesting. And it's actually a testament to how good
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: he's been. No matter how long it went with Shaq,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: when he showed up to a place that still had
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: had a press conference, like even when he got to Boston,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: by the way, just so people don't get this twisted.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Shaq was unguardable every day that he played in the NBA.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: He was still unguardable in Cleveland. And he was still really,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you still had to deal with him in Boston. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: just want to be clear. Shaq was never a bad player,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: but he didn't really matter anymore. But you always had
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: to have the press conference. LeBron is kind of at
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the got to have the press conference point, except he's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: way better than Shaq was in the last year of Shaq.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And he's like, he's still there. He's still something. And
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I just don't care.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: It's over.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: This is done. This is, we have wrung everything out
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: of the story that there is. Now that is for me.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: If I am him, I'm playing until I don't want
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to play anymore. And apparently that will be for every
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: satchel fucking page. I just cannot believe that he has
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: not found a single other thing to do with his life.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Golf's getting close.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Well, golf is getting close, but you know, he tried
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the production company thing and they don't really do that anymore.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know, but I just, I am
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It is impressive that he can keep going this long.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. But if
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I were him, probably do the same thing.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's on the board? How long do
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you think this is going to go on?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: It better go on past Wednesday because we got a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: recording schedule that does not involve him making any decisions
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I would... Whatever the date is, I'll take the over.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I mean, he's got a chance to bask
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: in this.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to be closer to Labor Day
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: than July 4th. Ooh, I didn't think it would be
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that long. I think it's more likely like the Roger
• 30:51
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• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I was thinking just, I was just thinking you're
• 30:57
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• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I see a, I see a long, long, long content
• 31:08
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• 31:13
  Speaker 3: one thing we have learned over again, about 20 years, if,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: if there is a content gap, LeBron James can and
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: will fill that gap.
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  Speaker 3: Morant heading to Portland. What move surprised you the most?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, you left out the one, which is LaMelo ball
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: going to Minnesota.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of this. You know,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: my buddy Rod, he a LaMelo defender. I don't want
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to say apologist because I don't feel like that's fair.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I would use the term anyone defending LaMelo as apologist.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: But no, I mean... The people, I mean, I'll be
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: watching them, right?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair. That's fair. Me neither. That's a good counter.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: So, LeBron makes a lot of good points on a
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: lot of defenses of LaMelo, and he's not a bad
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: basketball player. He just seems to be such a moron.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean that he is one. I don't know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: but he gives moron. Like, he gives it so strong
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that we're, like, Anthony Edwards does not give morons. Even
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: though he had to prove himself, I think, to a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: lot of people. But he's not giving you morons. LaMelo
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: with that stupid shit he be doing when he drives
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and everything else, he's just giving that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: And LaMelo's been in our lives now for... 10 years
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: because of the LeVar Ball year. Yes. So we've known
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: about him for, we are in like several chapters into
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the story.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: We are, but I will tell you this, and I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: think this part is easy to lose sight of. Man,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that's a big, talented backcourt. Kim and Ant together? Like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: there is a high end of this that could be really,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: really excellent. And let's not forget, it's not like LaMelo
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Ball has played with a lot of good players. Like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is by far the best dude. that he
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: will have ever played with. Like Minnesota is going to
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: miss Nas Reed. It's going to be some things there,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: but no, there's a world in which this works and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: there is no question. It's going to be hilarious.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine the two of them giving a press
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: conference together?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: So that's going to be the other part too. Is
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that like, when's the last time LaMelo wasn't the biggest deal?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Also, Anthony Edwards is very good at defending his teammates.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: And he's had a lot of experience because he had
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to defend Carl Anthony Jones.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: This is a completely different archetype, right? He's gone from
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: having to do it with Carl and having to do
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it with Rudy and having to do it with Eeyore.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: And now he's got to do it with someone completely different.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Right. It is going to be interesting to see.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: He's got to defend a guy that he's going to
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: be like, man, just let me talk to you.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem was he was talking to four people.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: That is correct.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Dollar, if you don't shut that shit up.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: All right. The Soccer Bowl has been going on the
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: last few weeks. USA putting on a good performance. They'll
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: take on Belgium tonight in the round of 16. Big
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: news that Flo Baligan, who was previously suspended for a
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: red card, will be playing in this game. Bo, have
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: you been enjoying the Soccer Bowl so far?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: So, first of all, are you familiar with the name
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Jack Tunney? This is a decision Jack Tunney would have made.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody out here who know who Jack
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Tunney was. Jack Tunney was the man that they invented
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: in the 80s as the quote unquote commissioner of the WWF.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And it was time to come up with one of
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: these contrived decisions. Jack Tunney would decide, oh, we're stripping you.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: The number one contender is whatever it is. This is
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: straight wrestling. Your rules do not allow you to rescind
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a red card.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: It's crazy that you don't have an appeal process, but
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: your rules just don't let it. And one thing that
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the World Cup is always about is home cooking. And
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: so they're like, wow, this would probably be really bad
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: for business. And so, boom, there we go. He's going
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to play. Let me tell you this about the soccer
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: ball ride. I watched a lot of soccer ball before
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I left for a vacation.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You know where I went for a vacation. People don't
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: know where I went for vacation. I went to Italy
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: for the vacation. I don't know if you guys know this,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: but I believe it's been three straight World Cups that
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Italy has not qualified for. Ryan, I saw... zero evidence
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: of any World Cup.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: They're like all sitting out.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I saw nothing. I saw no, not running on no TVs,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: not at the airport, not in the hotel, not in
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: no restaurant. They seem to be boycotting the World Cup
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in Italy. It's like it's not happening. I've seen a
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: lot of wonderful internet discussion about the soccer ball. And
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I just want to tell everybody something right fast because
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I've seen it, okay? I've seen a lot of y'all
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: talk about how now y'all want to go to Cape Verde, right?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: You've seen the women on the internet from Cape Verde.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You've seen the women in the crowds from Cape Verde.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And you want to book you a vacation to Cape Verde.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Talked to one of my Cape Verdean homeboys and he said,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you'd be better off going to the new Cape Verde
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: New Bedford, Massachusetts. That's where they at. It is most
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: likely that that bad little thing that you saw in
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the crowd, she caught a flight from Logan. She did
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: not catch a flight from Kate Faraday in order to
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: go there. Just letting you know that. But boy, Kate
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Faraday had beat Argentina, boy. It would have been cracking.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: That would have been like... one of the biggest upsets
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: in sports history.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And look, man, you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I generally, or generally, like, I root at the World
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Cup according to geopolitics, which is to say, I don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: know who Argentina would have to play in order for
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: me to root for them. I went to Argentina in April.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I was so surprised that nobody called me no names
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: to my face. Like, that's... I was bracing for it
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the whole time. Like, Argentina... I don't think any country
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: got a worse rep than Argentina.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Any. For a variety of reasons.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's earned, dog.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: It is earned. But, like, it was my reminder. Everybody
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: goes somewhere overseas. People are like, yo, what about the racism?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if you know where I'm from, dog.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: But it won't be the first time.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: All right, speaking of, we had a bit of an
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: ironic situation during the 25th, 250th celebration of July 4th. Several,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: 5,000 Trump supporters got stuck riding out a DC storm
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: in the Smithsonian African American History Museum. Beau, what did
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: you make when you saw this?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: First of all, I was not alive for the bicentennial.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: But you heard about it. Like, it was a really big, $ 2. 51.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: we really ain't got no school spirit like we used to, man.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: For a variety of reasons.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It was also 150 degrees, at least in this part
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of the world. But the idea that they had to
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: hang out at that museum, for me, is hilarious. And
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious, man, because the one thing I know
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: about my people, man, they was going to be willing
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: to show them folks around. You know? Like, hey, you
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: got any questions about whatever it is? How wild would
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it be if somebody went in there and it was
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: like a Rocky IV moment? If I can change, anybody
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: can change. You know, the concert, no, no, no, we're
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: going to stay in here. We're going to just keep,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: you know, tell me more. Hey, man, you go down,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, that first flow, it started in 1619,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It is, yeah, it is not gentle.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: In fact, now that I think about it, I'm glad
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: they ain't tearing that motherfucker up.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, several voicemails as we took a bit
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: of a hiatus from these. A lot of good ones.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Here's our first.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Hey, Bomani. Long time listener of your shows.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Always appreciated your perspective on sports and non-sports issues. Of
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: all the non-sports topics you venture off into, my favorite
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: by far is the city of New Orleans. I'm from
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: just outside Baltimore, and I've lived in seven states across
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: the country, and I was stationed in NOLA as a
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Marine in fell chase for five years in the mid-2010s.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: It is my favorite place in the world for any
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: number of reasons, and you can guess most of them
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: reasons have names and accents. I thought it was a
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: shame that it was not one of the host cities
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: for the World Cup this year, so I have a
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: hypothetical for you. If you could pick four countries to
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: play in New Orleans, which four countries' fans would make
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: the most entertaining cultural exchanges? This could be for good
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: reasons or bad. Unrelated, Where are we at on the
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: name Lester? I'm 41 and the.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Third Lester in a row of white Lesters out of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: West Virginia. Thank you for your time.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: I appreciate your work.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: See the West Virginia part, right? Like once you do that,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: anything is possible.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Over there they all sound like randy moss right anything's
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: fine all right so like i feel like we would
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: have to send um well we have to send france
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: to new orleans i.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Think you have to send france or one of the
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: french-speaking african countries like morocco algeria.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I look i tell you this how about we send
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: because morocco they don't really speak french over there anymore
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: it's a real hodgepodge but let's see in Cote d'Ivoire
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the way everybody be talking about Cape Verde Cote d'Ivoire
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: this is interesting I don't think I've met an Ivorian
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: person in my life and every time I watch a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: soccer match where they be playing I be like damn
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: we need to fix that so yeah let's get them
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: down there let's think about sending the Mexicans.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I mean they'll have a great time.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: They'll have a great time Ireland Ireland Yep.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, similar cultures, lots of drunks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, there's going to be somebody
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: going to be fighting according to this. And do we
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: send the Japanese?
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just to really, yeah, really mix it up.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I just want to have some people be like, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: don't understand anything that's going on around me. Like, riddle
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: me this.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: For sure. All right, here's our next one.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Joel Anderson is... maybe the funniest person I have ever
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: heard make words come out of his mouth hole. He
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: is the world's greatest hater. There is no second place.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Thank you for introducing the country and the world to
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the greatest hater of all time. Haters ball, baby.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, but he sounds like
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: up next, Al Jarreau on The Quiet Storm. My favorite thing, too,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: is how everything that Joel says that makes everybody laugh
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: so hard, none of it's jokes.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: He means every word of those things.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: He is the funniest person who never tries to be funny. No, no.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: And like, we're lucky that like, he doesn't get mad
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: at us for laughing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Normally when people are funny, like that unintentionally, it's like
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: ghost face. Like, was that a joke?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: All right. Here's our last one.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: What's up? This is Andy from Marietta, Georgia. I just
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to call in with a little main story. Uh,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I went to a medical appointment earlier, and I had
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: a new-to-me doctor, and I saw that her name was Tanisha.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, cool. Without thinking about it,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: my brain just reads that as that's going to be
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: a black woman. I've known several Tanishas. And then the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: doctor walks in the room, and she is a white woman. And,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't comment on it, but I thought
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that this would be, you know, immediately I was like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: this is something for the right time with Belani Jones.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: So I thought I would throw that one y'all's way to,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you know, think about. I don't know if anybody else
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: has called him with a white Tanisha before, but that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: does seem like a rare one. So it is a South,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you know, so I think that, as y'all discussed before,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: there's some overlap. because that's just how we do down here. But, yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: love the show, y'all. I know there's kind of less
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: going on in the summer on the show, but hope
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: y'all are taking the time for yourselves, taking care of yourselves.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Love the show.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Is it possible that why Tanisha's name is actually not
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Tanisha and this is just a scam she's running to
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: get business in Atlanta?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: If it is, it's a very good move.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have to say, before we're thinking, it's
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: also on the board. Number two, right? You know who
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: else is from Marietta, Georgia? Jalen Brown.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Wheeler High School's own. I just want to throw this
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: out there, by the way, and I'm not saying he
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: did this for real, but it's just coincidental. Like, you
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: know how Rick Ross took his whole thing for freeway
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Ricky Ross? Just like completely... Jalen Brown did a lot
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: of Xerox in a Sharif Abdur-Rahim from the same place
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: they went to the same high school they both went
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: to Cal they both Muslims you know what I'm saying
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: like he's just doing it's a different spin on Sharif
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: but very similar and give it time and by the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: way if Sharif was a different person Sharif would be
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: like put me on the Celtics see what I would
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Brown now I'm thinking about this Actually,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. Basketball reference only has Jalen Brown as a 8.9%
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: chance of making the Hall of Fame. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to the Hall of Fame. He's getting his
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  Speaker 2: jersey retired. Finals MVP, champion with the Celtics. Like, he's
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  Speaker 2: had a good career.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, five or six Hall of Star teams. Making the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep. And he a legend at the bank.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why he got traded. But ladies and gentlemen,
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