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Shattered Pandemic Lies & Malpractice Uncovered Tammy's Story · Wellness Uncensored

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, and welcome to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
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Speaker 2: My name's Patty g I am going to be your
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Speaker 2: host here today. I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Long story past.
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Speaker 2: What brought us here to Wellness Uncensored nearly three almost
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Speaker 2: three years ago was surviving the pandemic, should I say
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Speaker 2: the plandemic and some of the murderous hospital homicides that
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Speaker 2: took place during my time. I'm in executive leadership, and
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Speaker 2: today's show is not going to be for the faint
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Speaker 2: of heart. In what we've shared in the past three years,
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Speaker 2: and I've shared with all of you in my book
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Speaker 2: They call Me Harriet. It's a book that you can
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Speaker 2: get on my website. You can get it on Amazon
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Speaker 2: as well. I called it they call me Harriet because
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Speaker 2: I felt like I was working like Harriet Tubman in
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Speaker 2: the underground, trying to help people, trying to save lives,
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Speaker 2: trying to get the word out to people about what
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Speaker 2: was going on right underneath their eyes in hospitals with
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Speaker 2: doctors and nurses and administrators, and no one seemed to
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Speaker 2: even blink an eye. So I encourage you all, if
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Speaker 2: you want to hear more to the story from today
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Speaker 2: as well as much more, grab a copy of that book.
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Speaker 2: They call me, Harriet. We've got a phenomenal guest on today.
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Speaker 2: And like I said, it's not for the faint of heart.
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Speaker 2: Myself being a survivor of the remdesivir drug. God only
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Speaker 2: knows how I survived it, and many that were in
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Speaker 2: the hospital weren't so fortunate. And those that chose not
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Speaker 2: to get desevere or chose not to get the vaccine
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Speaker 2: were also treated horribly mistreated. And as Tammy's about to
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Speaker 2: share the story of her sister, sorry with her sister,
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Speaker 2: she really succumbed to a tragedy. And so these stories
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Speaker 2: are important, especially now of all times, with what we
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Speaker 2: have going on in the world. We really want folks
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Speaker 2: to face the music and wake up and realize things
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Speaker 2: are not always as they appear. The superficial story is
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Speaker 2: not necessarily the narrative. So let's bring Tammy up. I
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Speaker 2: want to welcome you, Tammy. I know this is a
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Speaker 2: really tough story to share, but I think the world
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Speaker 2: needs to hear it. And that's really the essence of
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Speaker 2: what brought Wellness Uncensored out was because I was being
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Speaker 2: censored and I was being limited with what I could do.
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Speaker 2: I walked away from hospital leadership and I brought a
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Speaker 2: career back as a psychiatric nurse practitioner because I knew
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Speaker 2: there were going to be a lot of people damaged.
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Speaker 2: I knew there are a lot of people that were
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Speaker 2: going to have to survive people's murderous deaths. And for
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Speaker 2: that aftermath and all the craziness that they did with us,
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Speaker 2: with the ssyops of masking and everything else. It's been
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Speaker 2: quite a busy three years for me in this type
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Speaker 2: of a role. So welcome. Tell us a little bit
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Speaker 2: about you, and you can just roll into wherever you want.
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Speaker 3: To start with telling us about your wonderful sister.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate that. A little bit about me. I'm
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Speaker 4: a My sister and I were preachers kids, We grew
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Speaker 4: up in church. We were the very best of friends.
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Speaker 4: It's just me and her. My dad passed away seven
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Speaker 4: years ago in April. So her and I dealt a lot,
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Speaker 4: you know, with that together, the grief through that about
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Speaker 4: me though well I hadn't really wanted, I hadn't expected
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Speaker 4: to talk about me.
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Speaker 2: It's good to know a little bit about your like
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Speaker 2: the rest of us, right, which is average people, and
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Speaker 2: nobody ever knows our story.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely no. I help worship song leader at a small church.
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Speaker 4: My husband is a lay preacher there every other week,
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Speaker 4: and then I work full time helping folks with disabilities
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Speaker 4: find employment. I also am raising two of my grandchildren,
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Speaker 4: one is nine and one is seventeen. So I am busy, busy,
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Speaker 4: busy lady. But I love it because you know, I
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Speaker 4: think it keeps me young and keeps me moving and
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Speaker 4: keeps me going.
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Speaker 3: So I enjoy it. I love it well. And so
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Speaker 3: you're a woman of faith.
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Speaker 2: Faith obviously, that faith, I believe is what maybe helped
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Speaker 2: to get you through some of this. But tell us,
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Speaker 2: tell us the story. Tell us about Tammy, I tell
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Speaker 2: us about your sister.
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Speaker 4: Sure, no, Tammy and Sandy. You know, actually my mom
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Speaker 4: Sandy to rhyme sort of with Tammy. So that should
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Speaker 4: tell you everything you need to know. So we were just
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Speaker 4: like mirrors of each other. So it started in the
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Speaker 4: fall of twenty twenty one. I went down to see
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Speaker 4: my sister. She was living in a suburb of Memphis, Tennessee.
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Speaker 4: She lived right across the border in Mississippi. There was
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Speaker 4: a it was like a camp that was going on
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Speaker 4: for three days, Pipeleship camp. She invited me, she actually
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Speaker 4: paid for it, wanted to visit with me, wanted me
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Speaker 4: to experience it. We went down there together, or I
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Speaker 4: met her there. I'll shorten the story. She developed COVID.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, So she developed COVID, and the only
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Speaker 4: reason they knew that was because she was having really
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Speaker 4: hard time breathing. She was very, very much out of breath.
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Speaker 4: So they did a test, which is a whole other
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Speaker 4: story about the testing system, as we know, but they
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Speaker 4: said she had it. She went home. I called her
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Speaker 4: when the camp was over, because it was a day
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Speaker 4: early then camp was supposed to let out. I called her.
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Speaker 4: She said, you know, I'm not feeling best. I don't
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Speaker 4: want you to come over and see me before you
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Speaker 4: leave town, so I'll just call you. So this was
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Speaker 4: just like three days before she went into the hospital,
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Speaker 4: which was October sixth she did go into the hospital.
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Speaker 4: Then she had called the ambulance because she was having
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Speaker 4: such a hard time breathing. They came out checked her.
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Speaker 4: They told her they didn't want her to go into
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Speaker 4: the hospital because they felt like her breathing was not
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Speaker 4: to the level of wanting to admit her, so they left.
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Speaker 4: She called about four hours later, they came back. She
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Speaker 4: wanted to go because she was just miserable. She's had
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Speaker 4: asthma all her life. They took her to the hospital.
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Speaker 4: So when she got to the hospital, of course she
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Speaker 4: was completely isolated. Nobody could come in to see her. Her
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Speaker 4: husband couldn't go with her. She had a nine year
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Speaker 4: old daughter, she of course couldn't go. She ended up
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Speaker 4: being there for let's see, she ended up going into
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Speaker 4: rehab so eleven nineteen, So she was there six weeks
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Speaker 4: and for the first three and a half weeks she
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Speaker 4: was by herself, like no one could go see her. Finally,
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Speaker 4: after her COVID was I guess touch that they could
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Speaker 4: come in or it was gone, but they let her
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Speaker 4: husband come in and visit one one person could come visit.
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Speaker 4: Her daughter still couldn't come because no children were allowed
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Speaker 4: in there, but no one was there to advocate for her.
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Speaker 4: She had no one. She could still text a few times,
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Speaker 4: and she did text me a number of times the
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Speaker 4: first three weeks that she was there. She did text
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Speaker 4: me and told me that that doctor had come in
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Speaker 4: and asked her if they could give her rim deesevir,
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Speaker 4: and she said, absolutely not. I do not want room DESERVERR.
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Speaker 4: She even knew at that time some of the things
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Speaker 4: that were out about, you know, the medications and some
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Speaker 4: of the protocols, not everything. She was not as aware
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Speaker 4: of as much stuff as I had learned, and I
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Speaker 4: didn't think to share it with her because I never
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Speaker 4: knew she was going to be in this position. She
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Speaker 4: knew a little bit enough to know that, and so
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Speaker 4: the doctor told her, well, if you don't want to
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Speaker 4: take this, then I guess you want to die. Well,
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Speaker 4: she absolutely was horrified and was texting me. And I
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Speaker 4: don't remember if she couldn't call because of the way
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Speaker 4: the system was, the calls weren't going out, but she
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Speaker 4: could text, and she was just over whelmed with that.
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Speaker 4: I texted her back and said, you need to ask
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Speaker 4: them to give you avermectin they you know, and or
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Speaker 4: she did, and of course they said, we're not allowed
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Speaker 4: to give it to you. That's not what we're the
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Speaker 4: government or the rules or not. We can't get that
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Speaker 4: protocol exactly. So she was not given that. They of
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Speaker 4: course they never even mentioned that. Was it monoclonial I
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Speaker 4: don't know how.
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Speaker 2: To say that anybody, or convalescent plasma. They didn't give
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Speaker 2: her any of that.
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Speaker 4: No, they didn't even offer that to her. So she
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Speaker 4: was on oxygen and I had a I have a picture,
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Speaker 4: might see the one where she's on the oxygen.
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Speaker 3: That you could see.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Rebel put she did have a
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Speaker 2: picture up why we were talking, but go ahead, oh.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know right, that's it. Yeah, no, she had
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Speaker 4: so that was like not the full face mask, but
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Speaker 4: she was on that. And and even though she was
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Speaker 4: on that, they weren't letting her eat, which I never understood,
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Speaker 4: while they were keeping food from her and stuff. So
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Speaker 4: she was she was able to eat a little bit
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Speaker 4: of jello and some water and that was all that
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Speaker 4: she had. And that was literally the food that she
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Speaker 4: had from October the sixth until she went into rehab
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Speaker 4: on November the nineteenth, which is what is that about
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Speaker 4: six that's about six weeks. Yeah, so yeah, and and
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Speaker 4: her they you know, they kept her on the oxygen
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Speaker 4: the whole time, which was uncomfortable, but it was that
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Speaker 4: that one. I guess that's the low flow it's not
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Speaker 4: the high flow mask. Yeah, she had that later, but
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Speaker 4: I don't have a picture with her that on. So
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Speaker 4: she had gotten to where they thought she could go
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Speaker 4: into rehab. They thought, you know, she's at least stable there.
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Speaker 4: She has lame a kiss. Yeah, so she so they
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Speaker 4: she was there, she was stable enough where they thought
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Speaker 4: she could go to rehab. Well, once she went to rehab,
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Speaker 4: that's when everything turned dark, evil, just the worst possible scenarios.
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Speaker 4: So she gets to the rehab, which was at Regional
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Speaker 4: one in Memphis. She gets there, they said that she
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Speaker 4: had had a terrible setback from just the jostling of
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Speaker 4: her being moved from one hospital to another. She was
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Speaker 4: again gone down to only water and ice for another
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Speaker 4: two and a half weeks after she got there. But
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Speaker 4: now this time, mind you, now she she was overweight,
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Speaker 4: she was trying to lose weight, but at this point
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Speaker 4: she's lost seventy five pounds in just river six weeks.
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Speaker 4: Uh huh. Because that because they weren't giving me starved her. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: they did. I can't even I just I can't imagine that.
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Speaker 4: So let me see so. So at this point though,
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Speaker 4: they put her on the high flow mask, So now
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Speaker 4: she's got a face mask on, which took away her
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Speaker 4: ability to communicate. Her speech was impaired because of that,
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Speaker 4: the forced oxygen in her interface. So I got there
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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving weekend because I lived six seven hours away in Louisville.
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Speaker 4: Once I found out that she was going to go
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Speaker 4: to rehab, well my mind was, well, she's getting better,
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Speaker 4: so I'll see her at Thanksgiving. Right, I'm thinking she's
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Speaker 4: going to rehab. She'll be better by Thanksgiving, because, like
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Speaker 4: I said, she went to rehab eleven nineteen, so I'm
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Speaker 4: thinking when I get there, she's going to be ready
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Speaker 4: to go home. Well, we went there to visit her,
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Speaker 4: and I was absolutely not prepared for what I saw.
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Speaker 4: I was absolutely not prepared at all. When me and
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Speaker 4: my mom walked in, she had the high flow mask on.
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Speaker 4: We couldn't understand what she was saying. Her hands were tied,
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Speaker 4: she was strapped to the bed. I did not know
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Speaker 4: that her husband and her daughter, who was twenty six
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Speaker 4: at the time. They didn't forewarn me about her being
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Speaker 4: strapped down. It was she was in agony. So while
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Speaker 4: we were there visiting, she would try to move it enough. Well,
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Speaker 4: we took her hands out while we were there because
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Speaker 4: we were holding and she was trying to talk, and
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Speaker 4: she would pull it out a little bit and just
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Speaker 4: try to speak.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 4: She had had such that forced oxygen, which was the
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Speaker 4: pressure was incredible because she kept saying, the oxygen's too strong.
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Speaker 4: It hurts. I can't stand it. My numbers are good.
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Speaker 4: And she would turn and point to her all the
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Speaker 4: machinery and she'd be like, my numbers are good, they're up,
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Speaker 4: and they were up. And they let her take the
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Speaker 4: mask off long enough and then gave her one that
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Speaker 4: she could hold and pull back and forth so she
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Speaker 4: could talk to us while we were there visiting, and
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Speaker 4: she told me that not to trust the respiratory therapist.
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Speaker 4: She said, Pam, I don't trust the respiratory therapists. I
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Speaker 4: think they're messing with my numbers. I think something's really wrong.
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Speaker 4: I don't trust them. Please go watch him well, I
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Speaker 4: don't know what I'm looking for. I go back and
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Speaker 4: stand behind the guy that's over messing with the computers,
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Speaker 4: and I'm just standing there like I want to help,
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Speaker 4: but I don't know what to do. Uh my mom?
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Speaker 4: And I called for the nurses many times to ask
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Speaker 4: them why she had to be strapped down, why were
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Speaker 4: they putting so much flow was so high and forceful?
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Speaker 2: And what did they say about that? About the tying
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Speaker 2: her down? Because if you've got somebody on restraints, you
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Speaker 2: have to check them every fifteen minutes. In document, Oh no,
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Speaker 2: are only supposed to be used if they're not able
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Speaker 2: to to be oriented to time and place because they're
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Speaker 2: afraid they're going to pull it something. But even then
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Speaker 2: they try to just tie at least restrictive one.
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Speaker 3: What happened? What did they tell you? Why was she restrained?
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Speaker 4: They never answered our question about restraint. And they told
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Speaker 4: us that if we were continually going to ask questions
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Speaker 4: and continually to be what they thought as combative, because
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Speaker 4: we were asking questions and no fist raised, no voices
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Speaker 4: even raised. We were just continually saying, could we get
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Speaker 4: someone in here to answer some question for us? And
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Speaker 4: we would walk out in the hallway, could we get
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Speaker 4: a nurse over here? We have some questions because we
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Speaker 4: were doing that every fifteen or twenty minutes. They told
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Speaker 4: us we were compative, and we asked leave if we
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Speaker 4: kept it up. And we never had to answer as
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Speaker 4: to why her hands were tied down. She when we
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Speaker 4: took him out to hold him, she wasn't trying to
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Speaker 4: rip it off or being aggressive.
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Speaker 2: And she knew who you were and she was talking
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Speaker 2: with you, so she has oriented.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: She said, that's that's violation alone, is a violation to
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Speaker 2: have shut a facility down. Not during COVID, of course,
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Speaker 2: because no one knew, but that is criteria to shut
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Speaker 2: a facility down.
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Speaker 3: Wow, I've done.
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Speaker 4: It, man, You know the things that knew. Then her
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Speaker 4: doctor at one point, and I even I even asked him,
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Speaker 4: I said, can we give her is she? Can she
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Speaker 4: get some vitamin C, vitamin D? Can we give her ivermectin?
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Speaker 4: I know that, And I even told him I was
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Speaker 4: at this point. I was just a said, I know
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Speaker 4: there are protocols that you guys are following, but she
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Speaker 4: is able to breathe without this mask because is can
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Speaker 4: we do something else about this? And he just said,
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Speaker 4: the nutritionists know what they're doing and we're doing everything
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Speaker 4: that we know to do. He politely and just dismissed
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Speaker 4: me completely, dismissed me completely. You know, I was overwhelmed
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Speaker 4: with the fact that she was being tied down and
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Speaker 4: not beating and crying the fact that the oxygen was
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Speaker 4: hurting her so bad. At one point she told me
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Speaker 4: when she had the little mask that she was able
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Speaker 4: to talk and take it off. And she said which
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Speaker 4: I had to wait to understand her. I kept because
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Speaker 4: her voice was like you know, someone that can't hear
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Speaker 4: very well, that how they speak sometimes. It was a
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Speaker 4: hard understand her because of the damage that had been
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Speaker 4: done to her lungs and her voice, of her voice box,
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Speaker 4: her throat everything. But she said, come and brush my tongue. Well,
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Speaker 4: I didn't know what was gonna I was gonna see.
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Speaker 4: So I went over there to her, and she opened
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Speaker 4: her mouth. Her tongue was swollen twice its size with
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Speaker 4: it was totally white. I brush or I'd never seen it.
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Speaker 4: The teeth that she had worked so hard with braces
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Speaker 4: on as a teenager kept white and clean and lovely
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Speaker 4: or brown, and they looked like little tobacco patches on
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Speaker 4: her gum. I was I had to excuse myself, I said,
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Speaker 4: saying I don't know how to scrape that without hurting you.
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Speaker 4: I'll be right back. I had to leave the room.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was overwhelmed.
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Speaker 4: I was overwhelmed.
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that that so folks, because folks,
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Speaker 2: y'all need to hear why this is so profound, because
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Speaker 2: these are simple, subtle things. Yeah, and look at Sandy
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Speaker 2: on a good day. This is her before going into
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Speaker 2: the hospital, a bright, beautiful woman. Some of these subtle
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Speaker 2: signs and effects and side effects. These are all things
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Speaker 2: of someone who's got a lot of inflammation, a lot
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Speaker 2: of overgrowth. And all these things are happening because of
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Speaker 2: the medications that they're using, the food they're restricting, the
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Speaker 2: fluid that they're restricting. She's got an overgrowth of yeast,
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Speaker 2: which shows that the body is starting to attack itself
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Speaker 2: and it's inflaming. Her tongue was inflamed. And these are basic, basic, basic,
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Speaker 2: one of one things that everybody needs to understand. When
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Speaker 2: you get things like that that happen, you should be
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Speaker 2: intervening to heal, not to keep slamming excessive treatments in
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Speaker 2: and like you said, nothing in terms of good ivy,
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Speaker 2: you know, Like how about hyper alimentation? That's a liquid
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Speaker 2: IV of nutrients, and they weren't feeding her no seventy
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Speaker 2: five pounds. So what happened when you walked away and
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Speaker 2: you came back to try to help her?
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Speaker 3: Did you?
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Speaker 4: I told her that I did not know how to
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Speaker 4: do that without hurting her. I didn't know if it
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Speaker 4: come off. I mean, it didn't look like it was.
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Speaker 4: It looked like it was part of her tongue. Now
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Speaker 4: there was nothing I could do to scrape it off.
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Speaker 4: So she just told me, she said, don't worry, Just
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Speaker 4: don't worry. So she so that was you know that
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Speaker 4: we just held her hand about that. Yeah, gave her.
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Speaker 2: No nurse helped you. Now that's the other thing too.
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Speaker 2: No one went in there and did oral care. And
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Speaker 2: on so many of the patients that we were I
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Speaker 2: was fighting against.
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Speaker 3: You know, they would put these.
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Speaker 2: Patients on the high flow or they would have them
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Speaker 2: they were obviously ventilated at that point. There was such
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Speaker 2: poor care that the tubes were actually causing necrosis in
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Speaker 2: their skin because they weren't doing hourly checks and turning things.
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Speaker 2: Much like your sister Sandy. This is all basic care
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Speaker 2: that was neglected, neglectful care, And I think I have
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Speaker 2: to say purposeful care one and done, get the money
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Speaker 2: and run one and done, get the money and run. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about that in just a bit. But
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Speaker 2: so you guys just stayed there with her your probably.
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Speaker 4: You know, no no nurses came in while we were
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Speaker 4: there to check on her. She never had anybody check
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Speaker 4: on it. And we were there from We probably got
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Speaker 4: there at nine in the morning and didn't leave until
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Speaker 4: well after dinner time. We probably left it seven. I mean,
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Speaker 4: we stayed the whole day because we were only going
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Speaker 4: to be there two days, So we were there two
18:28
Speaker 4: full days and not.
18:29
Speaker 2: Where's that standard of care hourly rounding and you were
18:32
Speaker 2: there two full days.
18:35
Speaker 4: Nurse we had there was a respiratory therapist that came
18:38
Speaker 4: in each day. He was there maybe twenty minutes both
18:41
Speaker 4: times with that, and that was and then I saw
18:43
Speaker 4: our doctor come in the one day and I them
18:48
Speaker 4: and he brushed me off.
18:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, the doctors are.
18:51
Speaker 2: Supposed to come every twenty four hours, and you know,
18:53
Speaker 2: if they do any lab work and they build for it,
18:56
Speaker 2: they're supposed to address changes or address the labric.
19:00
Speaker 3: And alter the plan of care. And that was the
19:03
Speaker 3: other thing that was going on. With these folks.
19:05
Speaker 2: They were billing, They were biling big, they were billing
19:07
Speaker 2: for lots of tests. There was no change to the
19:09
Speaker 2: planet care. They followed the protocol and they shut the door.
19:13
Speaker 4: Man. Well they well ended up happening was they said
19:17
Speaker 4: her lungs were brittle. They put at one point she
19:20
Speaker 4: had two tubes in each lung. Oh my god, Yeah,
19:25
Speaker 4: in each of her lungs there were two tubes. What
19:29
Speaker 4: I read and found out about later was that it
19:31
Speaker 4: was making it worse. The air was in her chest cavity,
19:34
Speaker 4: and I mean it was horrendous the effects that those
19:38
Speaker 4: can call like when they were penetrating into her, and
19:40
Speaker 4: just because she was not getting worse quick enough, they
19:45
Speaker 4: put she made.
19:46
Speaker 2: It out of the hospital. And my guess is when
19:49
Speaker 2: she made it out of the hospital, much like myself,
19:51
Speaker 2: I went home on oxygen. I couldn't tolerate not having
19:55
Speaker 2: oxygen on And there was probably some you know, miss
19:58
Speaker 2: of something somewhere where that she wasn't connected and she
20:02
Speaker 2: needed to kind of collect herself. And then movement, just
20:04
Speaker 2: even subtle movement from a chair to a stretcher, trying
20:07
Speaker 2: to decompensate being that debilitated and so her post socks
20:10
Speaker 2: probably went down so quick. They get her over to
20:13
Speaker 2: rehab and then they really charge her up. And then
20:15
Speaker 2: that's when they started her on the high flow because
20:17
Speaker 2: we're going to dry her out even more.
20:19
Speaker 4: It was, it was awful.
20:21
Speaker 3: It was awful. That's incredible.
20:23
Speaker 2: You know, every time I hear a story, it makes
20:25
Speaker 2: me madder and madder and just more angry to want
20:29
Speaker 2: to just the world needs to know what has gone
20:32
Speaker 2: on behind our noses. And it still continues, it still continues, Yes,
20:39
Speaker 2: And what happened from there?
20:40
Speaker 4: So because uh, you know, the tubes were in her
20:45
Speaker 4: she became weaker and weaker, and of course at this
20:48
Speaker 4: point she's susceptible to getting infection with those you know,
20:51
Speaker 4: four cuts in her sides of her body getting in there.
20:55
Speaker 4: On her death certificate ended up going you know, they
20:58
Speaker 4: listed septic. I have a list of what they had
21:01
Speaker 4: on her death certificate. But so from there she just
21:05
Speaker 4: continued to they had the tubes in her lungs. She
21:09
Speaker 4: ended up, as we all heard the story, probably by now,
21:13
Speaker 4: you know, on the dead of night, at three in
21:14
Speaker 4: the morning, she needs to go on the vent or
21:16
Speaker 4: you know.
21:17
Speaker 3: Dressed her lungs. I saw that in your story.
21:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so on December the night. Now, get this,
21:24
Speaker 4: she'd been there November nineteenth. So, I mean, this kid's
21:27
Speaker 4: a fighter. All the stuff that's going on, she's not eating,
21:31
Speaker 4: she's on those the high flow mask which she is
21:34
Speaker 4: is absolutely killing her to breathe. It's the forest. I
21:37
Speaker 4: can't even imagine the force going down your throat. I
21:40
Speaker 4: just I can't. It's hurt. She's hurting, She's crying and hurting,
21:43
Speaker 4: and all that time, and though finally on the on
21:46
Speaker 4: December the ninth, they put her on the vent. Her
21:50
Speaker 4: husband agreed to having her on the vent. She didn't
21:53
Speaker 4: want to be on the vent. She had told him
21:54
Speaker 4: she did not want to be on the vent, but
21:55
Speaker 4: he did it because he thought, well, there might just chance.
21:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wanted to help.
22:01
Speaker 4: And after that she never that we know, of conscious
22:05
Speaker 4: again because of the sedation that they had her under.
22:07
Speaker 4: I came back at the day after Christmas, we were
22:10
Speaker 4: up there again for three days. She I went up
22:14
Speaker 4: there to see her, but she was totally unresponsive. You know,
22:18
Speaker 4: I was whispering in her ear, holding her hand. That
22:21
Speaker 4: was really hard to see, you know, that was hard.
22:26
Speaker 4: But yeah, so, uh, there was really, you know, she
22:30
Speaker 4: couldn't talk. It was hard to be there for a
22:31
Speaker 4: long period of time. But I just sat with her
22:33
Speaker 4: and would talk to her and uh, you know, relived
22:36
Speaker 4: memories with her that only she knew about our childhood memories.
22:40
Speaker 4: Talked to her and you know, tell her to come back,
22:42
Speaker 4: and you know, not to leave, and you know, leave
22:45
Speaker 4: me things like that. So it was difficult. We went
22:50
Speaker 4: back to her house and I left her Christmas gifts
22:53
Speaker 4: there while she was in the hospital. Did put a
22:57
Speaker 4: pair of Christmas socks on her that I brought, you know,
23:00
Speaker 4: I just I thought maybe a miracle kid happened. I
23:04
Speaker 4: was not giving up thinking that she something would happen
23:08
Speaker 4: for her. She's so young. She was just fifty years old.
23:11
Speaker 4: She was getting ready to graduate in May as a
23:13
Speaker 4: Christian counselor. She was doing online studies and in May
23:17
Speaker 4: she would have graduated and been a Christian counselor. I
23:20
Speaker 4: just thought, no, she's got so much going on, there's
23:22
Speaker 4: so many things for her still at this young age.
23:26
Speaker 4: But John had other plans, and she died on January
23:30
Speaker 4: the third. My husband, we got a call. It was
23:34
Speaker 4: probably I don't even know, four four thirty in the morning,
23:37
Speaker 4: and when that phone ring, I knew, and I screamed
23:40
Speaker 4: at him to not do not tell me, do not
23:43
Speaker 4: tell me. I don't want to hear it.
23:45
Speaker 2: I was.
23:46
Speaker 4: I was unwilling at that point because I knew, and
23:49
Speaker 4: he just came over and held me, and he didn't
23:51
Speaker 4: even have to say aything. It was the worst worst
23:55
Speaker 4: moment I've had. So we just immediately we drove to
23:59
Speaker 4: my mom's house, which is twenty five minutes away, and
24:03
Speaker 4: I just sat over her house and cried for hours.
24:05
Speaker 4: I don't even remember that day. That next morning, I
24:09
Speaker 4: just I don't even recall it. I was just too
24:12
Speaker 4: overwhelmed with I just couldn't believe that it happened. I
24:16
Speaker 4: couldn't believe.
24:17
Speaker 2: It's incredible, Tammy, and you know the tragedy of all
24:20
Speaker 2: this is it happened to so many Yeah, and still
24:25
Speaker 2: to this day. You know, I had COVID back in
24:29
Speaker 2: August of twenty twenty. It's twenty twenty six. I cannot
24:33
Speaker 2: believe we're going on six years. When I read more
24:36
Speaker 2: of your story and the letter to the hospital, I mean,
24:40
Speaker 2: it's still it hits me. It hits me because I
24:43
Speaker 2: know what it's like to be there. I know what
24:45
Speaker 2: it's like to feel that inability to breathe and that
24:49
Speaker 2: inability to feel like you're being cared for. Mine was
24:52
Speaker 2: a little unique because I happened to be the chief
24:54
Speaker 2: nursing officer of the hospital that I got admitted to,
24:56
Speaker 2: So they were on their best behavior, even while on
25:01
Speaker 2: their best behavior. And I wrote a lot of it
25:03
Speaker 2: in my story, and I don't want to take away
25:05
Speaker 2: from Sandy's, but the concepts of things that I saw
25:08
Speaker 2: firsthand as a patient, and I was getting better care,
25:11
Speaker 2: and you know, I got REMDESIVI or I still don't
25:14
Speaker 2: know how I survived that, but I also got convalescent plasma.
25:18
Speaker 2: But the fascinating thing to me, and I think I
25:20
Speaker 2: saw it somewhere in what you had shared. You know,
25:23
Speaker 2: they came to give me physical therapy. And it's so
25:26
Speaker 2: funny because physical therapy, like we all know, there was
25:29
Speaker 2: no physical therapy. They came in, they looked at me
25:31
Speaker 2: and said, oh, you're not ready to get out of bed.
25:33
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? Like that is the
25:36
Speaker 2: standard of care anybody in the hospital. You're supposed to
25:38
Speaker 2: help facilitate their movement because movement is muscle and movement
25:43
Speaker 2: helps the body to repair and heal. They did nothing
25:46
Speaker 2: for her. They basically, from everything you shared, created a
25:50
Speaker 2: very slow, painful, tragic death. Yes, mismanaged care. They didn't
25:56
Speaker 2: follow nursing one on one or physician one on one.
26:00
Speaker 2: They took all that was sent out by the CDC
26:04
Speaker 2: and it was thrown out literally every hour on the telewire,
26:08
Speaker 2: if you will, because where I was at and across
26:11
Speaker 2: the country, these mandates, these edicts were coming out nearly
26:14
Speaker 2: hourly to every four hours, and we were having these
26:17
Speaker 2: mass meetings, and during these meetings it was it was literally,
26:20
Speaker 2: I tell you, on this side of the fence, it
26:23
Speaker 2: was like George Orwell. The voices came from the speaker
26:26
Speaker 2: across the zoom calls, this is what you'll do, this
26:29
Speaker 2: is what you'll do, this is what you'll do. And
26:31
Speaker 2: the staff it was sickening. They just complied. And I
26:35
Speaker 2: felt like I was in the twilight zone. I'm like,
26:38
Speaker 2: it's an even in our think and this doesn't make sense.
26:40
Speaker 2: And the people were dying. And the money, there's a
26:43
Speaker 2: money trail because I stopped following all of the things
26:47
Speaker 2: that we did, like hourly rounding, looking at good rates
26:51
Speaker 2: of success of people getting better, and they were managing
26:54
Speaker 2: rates of death, who was vaccinated, who wasn't vaccinated, which
27:00
Speaker 2: is on the event, what's her ratio of E or
27:03
Speaker 2: MED surge and ICU. It was crazy. So when I
27:06
Speaker 2: tell you, I just want to validate for you. You have
27:10
Speaker 2: lived hell for the murder of your sister. That's what
27:14
Speaker 2: happened to her. It's so tragic. I wish there was
27:16
Speaker 2: justice for this, and I hope by telling more people
27:19
Speaker 2: we can continue to find others and that you can
27:22
Speaker 2: get justice.
27:23
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well she would have done the same for me.
27:26
Speaker 4: And that's what and that's really what keeps me going
27:29
Speaker 4: is I try to be uh empathetic in the that
27:33
Speaker 4: if I put myself, if we had switched places, she
27:36
Speaker 4: would have he would have fought like it might have
27:40
Speaker 4: even been more ferocious than me. She's just she was
27:44
Speaker 4: a tiger, and I know she would have done it
27:47
Speaker 4: for me. I just, you know a lot of part
27:50
Speaker 4: parts of me wished I would have done more. Wish
27:52
Speaker 4: I would have known more. I know a friend of
27:55
Speaker 4: our mutual friend of ours, Gail, you know, I mean
27:57
Speaker 4: her husband comes in to take her out. But I
27:59
Speaker 4: mean you get faced with going to jail yourself for
28:03
Speaker 4: trying to take out your loved one out of the hospital.
28:06
Speaker 4: I mean, I just it blows my mind. I have
28:08
Speaker 4: I can't even conceive of a world like that, and
28:12
Speaker 4: yet we went through it, you know.
28:14
Speaker 2: We went through it, and you know why, and not
28:16
Speaker 2: not for nothing, but because I was pretty deep in
28:18
Speaker 2: it and I was fighting, and you know, I'm pretty
28:21
Speaker 2: tough that way, and I couldn't get my I couldn't
28:23
Speaker 2: get anybody. I mean, and I was working with people
28:25
Speaker 2: across the country, and I found people literally all over
28:28
Speaker 2: the world, and we were like these single little silos, going.
28:31
Speaker 3: How do we help, how do we help?
28:32
Speaker 2: What do we do? I was putting flyers on people
28:35
Speaker 2: people's cars. I was I had people I didn't even
28:38
Speaker 2: know popping up on my phone that were asking questions,
28:40
Speaker 2: and I was trying to get ivermect into them because
28:43
Speaker 2: at the time I didn't have the ability to prescribe
28:45
Speaker 2: and had I had the ability, I.
28:47
Speaker 3: Mean, I couldn't even get ivermectin for myself.
28:49
Speaker 2: It was that that pulled back and I look at this,
28:52
Speaker 2: and why is this so important to all of you
28:54
Speaker 2: out there today? Because you guys got to realize there's
28:58
Speaker 2: many of us out there. There's less of them, but
29:02
Speaker 2: the few that controlled all this. I mean, picture Fauci
29:06
Speaker 2: ready to swing that first baseball out on the field
29:09
Speaker 2: with all of our masks on. He was the only
29:11
Speaker 2: one out there. The power and the greed and everybody
29:14
Speaker 2: that was given the ability to make choices in our life.
29:17
Speaker 2: This still happens today, maybe not to the level, maybe not,
29:22
Speaker 2: but it's still happening. Your choices is people in hospitals
29:25
Speaker 2: and healthcare. You can't let them tell you absolutes or
29:30
Speaker 2: must and you have to have a voice. And if
29:32
Speaker 2: it doesn't, look where it's sound right, and you have
29:34
Speaker 2: a loved one in the hospital, raise questions, ask for
29:38
Speaker 2: the patient care advocate. Go put yourself in the administrative
29:43
Speaker 2: offices and ask calmly and peacefully. Look, I need to
29:46
Speaker 2: hit some answers. And if you have to bring an attorney,
29:49
Speaker 2: I mean, it is that obscene, It's terrible.
29:52
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, you're right.
29:53
Speaker 2: No.
29:54
Speaker 4: I even wrote a letter to the Joint Commission. I
29:57
Speaker 4: had one to the oh it's called the Truth for
30:00
Speaker 4: Health Foundation. I sent that I get a centennial report.
30:03
Speaker 4: I've got the report number, you know, for all the
30:06
Speaker 4: patient's safeties and stuff like that, and I've sent stuff asking,
30:10
Speaker 4: you know, since then, a couple of times sent the
30:13
Speaker 4: incident number. I've not heard anything. Of course, I don't
30:16
Speaker 4: expect to. Of course I never heard back from the
30:19
Speaker 4: hospital after sending those letters and to her doctor and
30:22
Speaker 4: to the board of directors.
30:24
Speaker 2: Think about this. We were tracked and tagged, all of
30:29
Speaker 2: our lab work, all of the medication, We got all
30:32
Speaker 2: of the dosages of everything, and oxygen and high flow.
30:37
Speaker 2: We were nothing but a giant science experiment for research,
30:41
Speaker 2: and big money was paid to everybody who supported it.
30:45
Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to.
30:46
Speaker 2: And now because what they've done, I mean, we still
30:49
Speaker 2: have people that actually think getting those shots are of benefit.
30:53
Speaker 2: I mean, it goes way back beyond COVID. There were
30:55
Speaker 2: so many earlier tests. I hate to even tell you all,
30:57
Speaker 2: but you know, even the flu vaccines and all those things.
31:00
Speaker 2: If y'all want to hear the conspiracy theories, you got
31:02
Speaker 2: to go way back beyond all that. But it's coming out,
31:07
Speaker 2: and it's you know, I don't have all the information,
31:10
Speaker 2: but I've just been following the information since my son
31:13
Speaker 2: had his first vaccine injury at a year old, and
31:16
Speaker 2: so he's twenty six, so you know, and when when
31:20
Speaker 2: COVID hit. You know, we all saw when COVID hit
31:24
Speaker 2: and we were starting to lock down. I had just
31:26
Speaker 2: been in Idaho in February. We locked down March tenth,
31:30
Speaker 2: and somewhere between February and March, that whole video came
31:35
Speaker 2: out of the Pandemic of the Experiment twenty nineteen, and
31:41
Speaker 2: it was took place at John Hopkins. I mean, if
31:44
Speaker 2: I saw it, then other people had to see it
31:46
Speaker 2: then and nobody raised the flat.
31:48
Speaker 3: The other funny thing this book.
31:51
Speaker 2: I have to push this book again because it's almost
31:54
Speaker 2: impossible to find. I don't know if you have this
31:56
Speaker 2: rebel still, but it's the Coronavirus Prevention Handbook one space tips.
32:01
Speaker 3: Guess what, Look who wrote it? That's it. Oh, it's
32:04
Speaker 3: kind of foggy on there. Wang Wang Zhao MD.
32:08
Speaker 2: He is the physician of the Wuhan Center Disease Control
32:13
Speaker 2: and Prevention and magically, if you read the little thank
32:18
Speaker 2: You in the beginning of the book, they talk about
32:22
Speaker 2: thanking the folks.
32:24
Speaker 3: That were involved.
32:25
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, the National Institute of Health, the
32:29
Speaker 2: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the National Health Commission
32:34
Speaker 2: of China, among others, and the people that are named
32:38
Speaker 2: in this book.
32:39
Speaker 3: I mean, good luck getting a copy. I have several in.
32:43
Speaker 2: Several writing it down and I was like, oh, oh yeah, oh,
32:46
Speaker 2: I'll send you, I'll send you link. In fact, I
32:47
Speaker 2: actually have an electronic copy of the entire book. And
32:50
Speaker 2: what's fascinating about this book, folks, because I've shared this
32:53
Speaker 2: book on the show before. This book talks about really
32:56
Speaker 2: the common cold, okay, but what it tells you to
32:59
Speaker 2: do is to be preventative. You need to heat your body,
33:01
Speaker 2: you need to stay active, you need to hydrate.
33:04
Speaker 3: Okay.
33:04
Speaker 2: First of all, they didn't hydrate patients. Then they starve patients,
33:08
Speaker 2: then they kept them still okay, so they really didn't drive.
33:11
Speaker 2: But the worst part is in this book there is
33:14
Speaker 2: a little chapter and it talks about you must remain
33:18
Speaker 2: calm and don't start to get aggravated towards others, and
33:22
Speaker 2: don't ask questions for if you do, you may find
33:26
Speaker 2: yourself put in a behavioral health facility.
33:30
Speaker 4: I kid you not.
33:31
Speaker 3: This book I got.
33:33
Speaker 4: This book came.
33:34
Speaker 3: Out March twenty twenty.
33:38
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, March twenty twenty.
33:41
Speaker 2: So Tammy, it's just incredible to me, what do you
33:44
Speaker 2: do now? How do you advocate for Sandy? What things
33:47
Speaker 2: are you sharing and doing? And how do you take
33:50
Speaker 2: care of yourself?
33:51
Speaker 4: Well, I have, I've done. This is my fifth podcast.
33:55
Speaker 4: I have two more scheduled in the next couple weeks.
33:59
Speaker 4: I want to I just want to do them so
34:01
Speaker 4: that people will keep hearing the stories, that they would
34:03
Speaker 4: know that someone out there has got information to share
34:08
Speaker 4: and that they are still loved and thought of. They
34:10
Speaker 4: aren't forgotten and it never should have happened, and murders
34:14
Speaker 4: should not be acceptable. I mean, I'm just I'm floored
34:18
Speaker 4: that it's just allowed, you know so. And taking care
34:23
Speaker 4: of myself honestly, like you, we've already discussed a little bit.
34:26
Speaker 4: Was is just through my faith, you know, prayer and
34:29
Speaker 4: just knowing that she's up there right now dancing and
34:32
Speaker 4: praising Jesus is the only thing that really keeps me
34:35
Speaker 4: from honestly sitting around and missing her desperately because she
34:40
Speaker 4: was my best friend. We called and talked to each
34:43
Speaker 4: other three or four times a week. And even now
34:45
Speaker 4: I'll see something in the store or go by and
34:48
Speaker 4: hear a song and I'll want to call and tell
34:49
Speaker 4: her something that only she would get you know, one
34:51
Speaker 4: of our inside jokes, and it brings me down again
34:55
Speaker 4: another notch, and like she should still be here, you know,
35:00
Speaker 4: then we can go around the circle. It well, God
35:02
Speaker 4: wanted her new time to take her home, but I
35:05
Speaker 4: just felt like it was just too soon for me,
35:07
Speaker 4: you know. And I know she would have loved to
35:10
Speaker 4: have loved her family longer, and she certainly wouldn't have
35:13
Speaker 4: wanted anyone to suffer the way that she did. It
35:15
Speaker 4: just not ever, it is.
35:18
Speaker 2: It's just unspeakable. And you know, I'm glad to hear.
35:22
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that's what got me through my faith
35:25
Speaker 2: lying in the ICU. You know, I made a deal.
35:28
Speaker 2: You know how you make those deals bargaining? Oh God, please? Yeah,
35:30
Speaker 2: And it was an moment of Okay, look God, I'm
35:32
Speaker 2: too young. I got to see my kids grow up.
35:35
Speaker 2: I've got a wonderful husband. I had dogs. I gave
35:38
Speaker 2: it my dogs. I meet my husband, give up my
35:40
Speaker 2: dogs for adoption while I was in the ICU, because
35:42
Speaker 2: I didn't know, and I was like, and if I
35:44
Speaker 2: go my babies, he's going to be so devastated. He't
35:47
Speaker 2: forget to feed them. It just won't be good.
35:49
Speaker 4: No, I hear you.
35:50
Speaker 2: But I got them back when I got home from
35:52
Speaker 2: the hospital. So it's a beautiful story in that regard.
35:55
Speaker 2: But I made a deal with God. I said, every day,
35:58
Speaker 2: if you let me live every day, I promise that
36:01
Speaker 2: I will do something, something to make a difference. So
36:05
Speaker 2: that's how this podcast was born, even though it didn't
36:08
Speaker 2: happen right after COVID collecting people. You know, I do
36:12
Speaker 2: a weekly trauma group anywhere we can catch people and
36:15
Speaker 2: help them. But for you and for everybody out there,
36:17
Speaker 2: I need you all to get the story that what
36:22
Speaker 2: Tammy's chosen to do is to live full. She puts
36:25
Speaker 2: her trust in God or faith in God. She's inspired
36:29
Speaker 2: through sharing the story of her sister. And you're choosing life.
36:33
Speaker 2: You're choosing to make a difference because so many out there,
36:37
Speaker 2: and I'm sure somebody's listening today, they are so distraught
36:40
Speaker 2: by the death of their loved one. It's so incapacitated them,
36:45
Speaker 2: and I want them to live and I want more
36:47
Speaker 2: people to know about these stories, because I swear to God,
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Speaker 2: there's people out there picking daisies, going.
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Speaker 3: Oh everything's great, and oh yeah, that pandemic.
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Speaker 2: Was terrible, and they don't even know the impact. And
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Speaker 2: right under their noses, our choices, our voices, we were
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Speaker 2: just shut down. Yeah, so don't lose logic. What else
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Speaker 2: would you like to share in terms of Sandy or
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Speaker 2: what you want the world to know?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's good note for me. Sharing her story
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Speaker 4: really does help keep her alive still with me because
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Speaker 4: I feel like she's with me when I share her story.
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Speaker 4: Like she uh, we had a love that was very special.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we were sisters, but Mom said, you know,
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Speaker 4: you guys were twins. You were just born three years apart.
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Speaker 4: Because we just you know, everything was together for us.
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Speaker 4: We had a lot of similarities, we love the same things.
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Speaker 4: We just we just really messed well. So without her
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Speaker 4: being here, it's it's hard for me. But like I said,
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Speaker 4: when I look through her notes, I mean the notes
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Speaker 4: for doing keeping track of all that I've done with
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Speaker 4: letters and different things and writings, and I write on substack,
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Speaker 4: I have a blog and I've written about her quite
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Speaker 4: a few times. I've got poems and just keeps her
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Speaker 4: alive in my heart and it keeps her feel she's
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Speaker 4: just so with me and connected with me still by
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Speaker 4: keeping her memory alive and I will tell you that
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Speaker 4: the devastation that causes when someone is gone is the
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Speaker 4: fact that families can break up, and ours has because
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Speaker 4: of this, Like her husband very much didn't believe anything,
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Speaker 4: like he thought the hospitals were amazing and they were
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Speaker 4: on target and on spot, and it has totally broken
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Speaker 4: the relationship there. My mom doesn't get to see my
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Speaker 4: sister's youngest child, who is now twelve. That that relationship
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Speaker 4: has been severed because we believe that something happened to
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Speaker 4: her that shouldn't have the hospital and he believes that
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Speaker 4: they did everything they could and so just because of
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Speaker 4: that belief, he doesn't want to have anything to do
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Speaker 4: with us anymore. I don't understand it. It's what happened,
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Speaker 4: and it's terrible for my mom. She can't see her
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Speaker 4: youngest grandchild now, and she hasn't seen her in over
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Speaker 4: about a year and a half now. It's just it's just.
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Speaker 2: The same situation. So that's yeah, and that's happened too.
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Speaker 2: You know where he's appa, perhaps he has his own
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Speaker 2: sadness and guilt and grief because she has gone. But
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Speaker 2: instead of clinging to each other, you know, he's pulled away,
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Speaker 2: and that's that's equally tragic. Absolutely, So, folks, I want
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Speaker 2: you how can people reach you too? Again, if somebody
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Speaker 2: saw your story and wants to share it further, how
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Speaker 2: can people reach you? Is there a good way that
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Speaker 2: you have set up that you'd like people to reach
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Speaker 2: you on substack or do you have a you know
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Speaker 2: what I do have?
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Speaker 4: My substack is just real similar to my Gmail, which
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Speaker 4: I don't mind to give out. My Gmail is just
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Speaker 4: like my full name, it's Tammy t A M M.
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Speaker 4: Y Baker b A K E R twenty three at
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Speaker 4: gmail dot com. And then my substack is Tammy Baker
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Speaker 4: twenty three dot substack dot com. And you can reach
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Speaker 4: out to me either anyway. And I and I would
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Speaker 4: love to be just a sounding board or listen to
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Speaker 4: your story and just be there for someone who needs
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Speaker 4: to share something that's so uh, it's so frustrating and
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Speaker 4: you don't want to get and take it out in
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Speaker 4: an angry way, but you're so upset and distraught that
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Speaker 4: sometimes you just need to tell somebody and then it
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Speaker 4: just helps you, you know.
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Speaker 2: No, that's wonderful. Well, I think you know. And again
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Speaker 2: this message out there for everyone to hear. Tammy's story
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Speaker 2: about her sister Sandy. You may have a different twist
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Speaker 2: to it, but it's the whole concept too of how
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Speaker 2: do you heal, How do you heal from grief? How
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Speaker 2: do you go forward when you're the devastation of losing someone,
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Speaker 2: but also additionally when it doesn't really feel justified or
40:31
Speaker 2: in Tammy's case, where Sandy it really feels a lot
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Speaker 2: like a little bit of a homicide, you know, neglect,
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Speaker 2: poor care, whatever you want to stick the label on it.
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Speaker 2: I know personally from working in these places and personally
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Speaker 2: from living it myself. There were mistakes, many mistakes. There
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Speaker 2: were bad choices, there were bad protocols, and there was refusal,
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Speaker 2: absolute refusal of the right to try. And you don't
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Speaker 2: get to have a refusal of the right to try.
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Speaker 2: If the family member or the patient want to ask
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Speaker 2: for something else, you have to give them the option
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Speaker 2: of how to do it now, what that entails that
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Speaker 2: may need to be worked out, but ivermacton.
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Speaker 3: Come on, folks.
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Speaker 2: So again, I want to thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: being on the show. We probably have lots more we
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Speaker 2: can do in future settings too, and I really want
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Speaker 2: everybody to remember too, if you are stuff, if you
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Speaker 2: are stressed, if you were anxious, if you were depressed,
41:25
Speaker 2: if you don't know where to go, you always down
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Speaker 2: nine eighty eight. That is the national hotline. It's a
41:29
Speaker 2: crisis line. You can always reach out. Magnolia B Wellness
41:33
Speaker 2: is a place where you can either call or leave
41:35
Speaker 2: your name and number on our website. We can help
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Speaker 2: you with a referral for something in your area or
41:41
Speaker 2: if you happen to be in Florida, I can certainly
41:42
Speaker 2: help you out and hook you up. And again, this
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Speaker 2: show is for Sandy, and may Sandy be just alive
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Speaker 2: and proud all over us as you shared her story today.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Tammy and tight We will talk
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Speaker 2: to you all next week. Don't go anywhere and I'll
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Speaker 2: see all next Thursday. Have a great day and we're
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Speaker 2: here for you at Wellness uncensored to you until next time.
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Speaker 3: Thanks m HM.