Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #430 Making Mornings Magic
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now, I guess a tip for moms in particular is
- 0:13Speaker 2: not necessarily believing your.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Children when they say they know exactly where it all lives.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Yeah, we've actually learned that there's two very important words
- 0:22Speaker 4: to say right then, and that is show me.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
- 0:28Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:28Speaker 5: Could I everyone?
- 0:29Speaker 4: This is doctor Justin Courson here with Kylie, my wife
- 0:31Speaker 4: from Under our six kids. I'm the author of six
- 0:33Speaker 4: and we're growing a new one. They're almost seven books.
- 0:38Speaker 4: I'm almost halfway through my I thought.
- 0:40Speaker 3: We were growing a new baby.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Getting scared for a second there, the way I said that,
- 0:44Speaker 2: it could have been a little bit confusing.
- 0:46Speaker 5: I appreciate you making.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Me well six and six okay, horrify.
- 0:50Speaker 4: So we're the parents have six kids, and I'm the
- 0:53Speaker 4: author of six books, and I'm growing a new book.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Normally you don't grow a book. Normally you write. Your
- 1:02Speaker 2: wording was scaring me.
- 1:03Speaker 4: Yeah, while I was trying to be funny, and I
- 1:05Speaker 4: realized that maybe I was a little too. I mean,
- 1:08Speaker 4: you're not You're not you're not okay, great, well, we're
- 1:11Speaker 4: not growing anything other than a new book and.
- 1:13Speaker 5: Daily podcasts Kylie.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Today, I thought, with school going back, we should probably
- 1:18Speaker 4: have a conversation about something that that a lot of
- 1:21Speaker 4: parents start to worry about when it's time to get
- 1:24Speaker 4: the routine going.
- 1:25Speaker 2: After a long break, especially over the Christmas break, there's
- 1:29Speaker 2: been no routine. Everybody slept in till when they want
- 1:32Speaker 2: to sleep in, and there's really no bedtime going big kids.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Right, if you've got little kids, they're still up track
- 1:37Speaker 5: of dawn.
- 1:37Speaker 4: But our kids now that they're starting to get bigger,
- 1:39Speaker 4: they're like, they're gont to get out of bed till
- 1:41Speaker 4: nine o'clock, ten o'clock.
- 1:42Speaker 5: It's like there's a life to live out here. Kids
- 1:45Speaker 5: come on.
- 1:46Speaker 2: But over the years, the biggest challenge we have after
- 1:49Speaker 2: you've had that break is getting back into the school routine,
- 1:53Speaker 2: getting those mornings working so that everything else runs smoothly.
- 1:59Speaker 4: And we've found our children have gotten older mornings kind
- 2:02Speaker 4: of take care of themselves. The kids know what time
- 2:04Speaker 4: they've got to get up. We might give them a
- 2:05Speaker 4: little bit of a shaker, bit of a reminder, but
- 2:07Speaker 4: they know how to get themselves going from about the
- 2:09Speaker 4: age of I would say ten or eleven, they're making
- 2:11Speaker 4: their own lunches, they're making their own breakfasts, they're getting dressed,
- 2:14Speaker 4: they're doing all the basic stuff they need to do
- 2:16Speaker 4: in the morning.
- 2:16Speaker 5: But prior to the age of ten, it's kind of
- 2:19Speaker 5: hard work.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Well, it's very hands on for parents. And I'm saying
- 2:23Speaker 2: parents as in, if both of you can be in
- 2:25Speaker 2: homd that makes it easier for eaven It does make
- 2:27Speaker 2: it easier, but it's still full on, especially the more
- 2:30Speaker 2: children you have in that younger age bracket.
- 2:32Speaker 5: Yep.
- 2:32Speaker 4: Yeah, So we over the years have worked very, very
- 2:36Speaker 4: hard with our younger kids so that by the time
- 2:37Speaker 4: they're ten, we don't have to work very hard with
- 2:39Speaker 4: them at all. We really believe in the idea of
- 2:42Speaker 4: pre arming your kids or developing them so that they
- 2:44Speaker 4: can figure things out for themselves as they get older.
- 2:46Speaker 4: And we've come up with a formula for parents of
- 2:49Speaker 4: kids at any age, but particularly in the under ten
- 2:52Speaker 4: age range, to make your morning magic.
- 2:55Speaker 3: So let's talk about it.
- 2:56Speaker 4: So for those who are not familiar with what's in
- 2:58Speaker 4: twenty one days to a happy family in the bucket metaphor, basically,
- 3:02Speaker 4: your relationship is a bucket, and our job is to
- 3:04Speaker 4: fill our children's buckets with connection, And metaphorically, that's the
- 3:09Speaker 4: water that goes into a bucket. Like you don't want
- 3:11Speaker 4: a bucket full of air, you want a bucket full
- 3:12Speaker 4: of water. That's what buckets are for for carrying water.
- 3:15Speaker 4: So the water is represented by connection and the air, well,
- 3:20Speaker 4: that's correction and direction. And so the question pretty much
- 3:23Speaker 4: is this morning, how much time do you spend connecting
- 3:24Speaker 4: and correcting versus connecting?
- 3:28Speaker 5: And I think as we sort of.
- 3:30Speaker 4: You know, we'll talk about the morning routines and stuff
- 3:33Speaker 4: in a sec I think that if we can get
- 3:35Speaker 4: good quality connection into our mornings, which is, let's face it,
- 3:38Speaker 4: missing from most people's mornings most of the time because
- 3:40Speaker 4: there's so much to do and so little time to
- 3:42Speaker 4: get it done, we spend all of our mornings correcting
- 3:45Speaker 4: and directing.
- 3:46Speaker 5: And we wonder why our relationships allows you in the mornings.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Well, we find our children kind of you know, get
- 3:51Speaker 2: sidetracked along the way, don't then they start really well,
- 3:55Speaker 2: but they get a bit side tracked. Do we constantly
- 3:57Speaker 2: having to redirect them back to what they need to do.
- 4:00Speaker 4: So that's where that metaphor comes from and I reckon
- 4:03Speaker 4: that if we keep that in mind as we talk
- 4:06Speaker 4: about what we're going to talk about today in terms
- 4:08Speaker 4: of making our mornings magical, that is probably going to
- 4:13Speaker 4: be one of the most important things that we can do.
- 4:15Speaker 2: When you think about all of the things that you're
- 4:17Speaker 2: doing in the morning, you're thinking about everything that needs
- 4:19Speaker 2: to be done and the need to hurry because this
- 4:22Speaker 2: you know, you've got to get them out the door
- 4:23Speaker 2: and get them to school, and then you've either got
- 4:25Speaker 2: to go off to work or come home and you know,
- 4:27Speaker 2: do all of the enormous list of ongoing chores that
- 4:30Speaker 2: just never seem to you, never seem to be able
- 4:32Speaker 2: to get through.
- 4:33Speaker 5: See how I let you just cut me off and
- 4:35Speaker 5: keep going.
- 4:36Speaker 2: You did?
- 4:36Speaker 5: I'm deferring. See if you like that? All right, So
- 4:38Speaker 5: let's talk about how to make our morning's magic.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Next, it's the Happy Families Podcast.
- 4:43Speaker 2: For a happier family, try a Happy Families membership, because
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- 4:49Speaker 5: Details at happy families dot com dot au.
- 4:53Speaker 4: It's the Happy Family's Podcast. I'm doctor Justin Colson here
- 4:56Speaker 4: with missus Happy Families. Kylie Colson, my wife and mum
- 4:59Speaker 4: to our sick kids, and we're talking about how to
- 5:01Speaker 4: make mornings magic.
- 5:02Speaker 5: And I think it's.
- 5:03Speaker 4: Fair to say that we've had our fair share of
- 5:05Speaker 4: pretty average mornings, which is why we're pretty passionate about
- 5:08Speaker 4: getting mornings right. What do you reckon are the integral
- 5:11Speaker 4: essentials of making mornings magic?
- 5:14Speaker 2: Well, you talk specifically about four different things that we
- 5:18Speaker 2: can do in helping to create those magic moments each
- 5:23Speaker 2: morning with our kids. So the first one was really
- 5:27Speaker 2: recognizing and understanding that our morning actually starts the night before.
- 5:32Speaker 3: Do you want to unpack that for us a little bit?
- 5:34Speaker 5: Yees?
- 5:34Speaker 4: So we know that if we can get everything organized
- 5:37Speaker 4: the night before, the next day just runs so much
- 5:39Speaker 4: more smoothly.
- 5:40Speaker 5: So that means when you go.
- 5:41Speaker 4: To bed, the kitchen's actually tidy and the house is
- 5:44Speaker 4: in reasonable shape. But more than that, it's specifically the
- 5:48Speaker 4: morning stuff like do you know where the kid's shoes are.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Or a school bag or their lunchbox.
- 5:55Speaker 4: They're reading their library books, so it's making sure that
- 5:59Speaker 4: the bag is pretty well packed, the uniform is laid out,
- 6:03Speaker 4: the shoes and the socks and the sports uniform, everything
- 6:05Speaker 4: that they need is ready to go. If you remember
- 6:08Speaker 4: to do that the night before. It just means that
- 6:10Speaker 4: you don't have that pressure of you, what do you
- 6:12Speaker 4: mean you can't find your shoes You were wearing them
- 6:14Speaker 4: yesterday in the car on the way home, Like, you
- 6:17Speaker 4: don't have to deal with that stuff.
- 6:18Speaker 2: And I guess a tip for mums in particular or
- 6:21Speaker 2: dad's but that for me is not necessarily believing your
- 6:25Speaker 2: children when they say they know exactly where it all is.
- 6:29Speaker 5: Yeah, we've actually.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Learned that there's two very important words to say right then,
- 6:32Speaker 4: and that is show me.
- 6:35Speaker 5: I want to see them.
- 6:38Speaker 3: So definitely has had such.
- 6:41Speaker 2: A significant impact on making our mornings move forward in
- 6:47Speaker 2: positive ways when we have done that preparation the night before.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Yeah, now, if you want to go over the top,
- 6:52Speaker 4: we've done this. We haven't done it for a while,
- 6:54Speaker 4: but we both know that it works supremely well.
- 6:57Speaker 5: We actually put together a breakfast.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Menu and a lunch list, and before the kids go
- 7:04Speaker 4: to bed, we get the kids to circle on the
- 7:07Speaker 4: laminated breakfast menu what they want for breakfast the next day,
- 7:10Speaker 4: and they choose what they want for lunch the next day,
- 7:13Speaker 4: because you know, sometimes they walk out into the kitchen
- 7:15Speaker 4: and they're bleary eyed and they're tired, and they can't
- 7:17Speaker 4: decide what they want.
- 7:17Speaker 5: They just open the fridge and stare at it for
- 7:19Speaker 5: four minutes.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Well the TV is it's not a TV, but they
- 7:23Speaker 3: think it is.
- 7:24Speaker 5: The fridge is so changed what's in the fridge.
- 7:28Speaker 4: And so what we found is that when the kids
- 7:30Speaker 4: are making decisions they might be for for what they'll
- 7:32Speaker 4: have for breakfast and lunch, they just come out into
- 7:33Speaker 4: the kitchen and get on with it. And we've spent
- 7:35Speaker 4: time helping them to learn how to make this stuff,
- 7:37Speaker 4: how to prepare their own lunches, how to prepare their
- 7:40Speaker 4: own breakfasts, and they can do most of it pretty
- 7:42Speaker 4: well without our assistance. But the great thing is now
- 7:44Speaker 4: that the decisions are made, even if they do need help,
- 7:47Speaker 4: it's so easy for us to step in. So that's
- 7:49Speaker 4: that's kind of going over the top for some parents,
- 7:52Speaker 4: but for us, we found that it's tremendously helpful.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Definitely, And I think in the early early stages there
- 7:58Speaker 2: was a lot of needed from me. But as our
- 8:01Speaker 2: children have I guess gone through that process and like
- 8:04Speaker 2: you said, we've trained and taught them how to do
- 8:07Speaker 2: it that they are very much independent in relation to that.
- 8:12Speaker 2: So I guess one of the other things that we've
- 8:13Speaker 2: talked about in those four different steps is waking our
- 8:18Speaker 2: children up just a few minutes earlier then they need
- 8:21Speaker 2: to be awake, and doing it in such a way
- 8:24Speaker 2: that it's not such an abrupt, rude, you know, intrusion
- 8:27Speaker 2: to this beautiful night's sleep that they've had.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Yeah, so most of the time when we wake the
- 8:31Speaker 4: kids up in the morning, it sounds like this, would.
- 8:33Speaker 1: You just wake up?
- 8:33Speaker 4: This is the fifth time I told you, You're ten
- 8:35Speaker 4: minutes later already, it's going to be horrible.
- 8:37Speaker 5: And nobody likes those kinds of wake ups.
- 8:40Speaker 3: I don't think I ever had that. It was just
- 8:42Speaker 3: they turned the light on.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Right, Yes, turn the light on to get up.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Yeah, that sort of stuff just doesn't work well. And
- 8:50Speaker 4: so if you want to have magic morning with connection
- 8:53Speaker 4: rather than correction and direction, I reckon, go and sit
- 8:55Speaker 4: on their bed ten minutes early. Give them a squeeze,
- 8:58Speaker 4: give them a hug, let them know that you love them,
- 9:00Speaker 4: are your set for the day?
- 9:01Speaker 5: What can I do to help?
- 9:02Speaker 2: And so then your last one, justin you talk about
- 9:06Speaker 2: the need to not tell our children what to do,
- 9:09Speaker 2: but ask them what to do.
- 9:10Speaker 3: How does that actually work?
- 9:12Speaker 4: So so much of our mornings, would you hurry up?
- 9:14Speaker 4: Why haven't you done this? Go and get this for me,
- 9:16Speaker 4: Go and pack that away. Like we're constantly telling our
- 9:19Speaker 4: kids what to do, we're correcting and directing, But when
- 9:21Speaker 4: we connect. A great way to engage with the kids
- 9:24Speaker 4: when they're not moving is to connect by asking questions.
- 9:27Speaker 4: You might say, Hey, what's next on your list? Or
- 9:29Speaker 4: is there anything you need help with? I noticed that
- 9:30Speaker 4: you're standing there looking a little bit lost. And when
- 9:33Speaker 4: you reach out and offer to help, or when you
- 9:35Speaker 4: say what's next on your list, those kinds of responses
- 9:38Speaker 4: are much less likely to be perceived as correcting and
- 9:40Speaker 4: directing and much more likely to be felt like, you know,
- 9:42Speaker 4: we're connecting with and we're seeing them, we're valuing them,
- 9:44Speaker 4: we're offering to help them. And that's good for building
- 9:46Speaker 4: the relationship, and it's good for making warnings magic, and
- 9:49Speaker 4: it's good forgetting about the door on time.
- 9:51Speaker 3: And there was lots of ants there.
- 9:54Speaker 2: So I'm going to add my own one little tip
- 9:57Speaker 2: and I think that it has a huge impact on
- 9:59Speaker 2: mind morning. It's just using those gentle reminders. So when
- 10:04Speaker 2: the kids have actually finished or perceived to have finished
- 10:07Speaker 2: their morning routine and they're ready to go to school,
- 10:10Speaker 2: and they're already just to kind of, you know, chill
- 10:11Speaker 2: out and wait for the school bus.
- 10:13Speaker 3: To come along.
- 10:15Speaker 2: That being me, sometimes I'll recognize and say that they
- 10:19Speaker 2: haven't actually done a few of the things that they
- 10:21Speaker 2: needed to do chore wise or helping out around the house,
- 10:25Speaker 2: and so just a gender or reminder, hey Annie the
- 10:27Speaker 2: laundry is enough for her to kind of kick into
- 10:30Speaker 2: gear and go, oh yeah, I've got five minutes I
- 10:32Speaker 2: can go and do you know, put a load on.
- 10:34Speaker 5: I love listening to you. I reckon, we should do
- 10:36Speaker 5: this podcast more often.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Well, I really enjoy speaking with you.
- 10:40Speaker 4: We really hope that this has been a helpful episode
- 10:43Speaker 4: as you try to make your morning's magic. Can get
- 10:45Speaker 4: set for a brand new school year. Queensland supposed to
- 10:48Speaker 4: be back at school already, but that's not quite happening yet.
- 10:51Speaker 4: We wait with haited breath here in the Sunshine State
- 10:54Speaker 4: to find out how much longer the school holidays are
- 10:57Speaker 4: going to be.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Extended for and for the rest of us the country.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Pretty much almost everyone's back next week, all things going well,
- 11:04Speaker 4: Fingers crossed The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin
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- 11:08Speaker 5: Craig Bruce is our executive producer. If you'd like more
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