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Cowboys Draft Room REVEALED, Aaron Rodgers Wants a RAISE + Rookie Mini Camp Takeaways + NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast back again,
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  Speaker 1: took the weekend with my family. It's being a good
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  Speaker 1: Dad said, you know what, let's fire up the old
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  Speaker 1: podcast and give some takes on football. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: we will do today. So some thoughts these viral clips
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  Speaker 1: with this doc on the Cowboys, Aaron Rodgers Mendoza taking
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  Speaker 1: snaps under center, John Sterling, legendary Yankees broadcast broadcaster and
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  Speaker 1: play by play voice, Dies Dad diaries, some mailbag questions
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  Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, We've got a lot going on today.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys know the drill fire in uh fire
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  Speaker 1: on video because you just go to Netflix, hit the
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to start with the pick is in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would imagine NFL Films was
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  Speaker 1: involved in this. It's on. I watched on ESPN Plus
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  Speaker 1: and they did like an hour long documentary on the
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  Speaker 1: first round. I just kind of powered through the first
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. And because I saw a lot of content
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  Speaker 1: online of these inside the draft room of the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: talking to the Browns, talking to the Dolphins, talking to
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  Speaker 1: Howie when they made their trade, you know, late in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. I'm like, where is this coming from?
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  Speaker 1: And then you need a little AI and you realize
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  Speaker 1: there's this documentary out there. So I wanted to check
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  Speaker 1: it out. And one thing really jumped out to me
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  Speaker 1: in the clips and then watching it is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the funny part about the Cowboys. If I just said
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  Speaker 1: a meta random fan of football and I said the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, the first thing most people would say would
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  Speaker 1: be Jerry Jones, Right, I mean, Jerry Jones isn't just
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  Speaker 1: synonymous with Cowboys since they haven't won the last thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of the defining poster child of the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you think about Dallas, Jerry Jones just comes
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  Speaker 1: up in a lot. He's prominent in all these in
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  Speaker 1: anything going on in football, Jerry Jones is out front
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  Speaker 1: and center in a league where the owners never talk.
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  Speaker 1: Most owners talk once at the owners meetings and maybe
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  Speaker 1: if they fire a coach, and even then a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times they just throw out their general manager to
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  Speaker 1: speak for it. It takes something like the Roonies or
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  Speaker 1: Steve Bushatti when John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin had been
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  Speaker 1: almost a combined forty years for those guys to lead
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  Speaker 1: the press conferences. But a lot of times the GM
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  Speaker 1: just goes out there and runs it. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Jerry is just addicted to the spotlight. He's been like
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  Speaker 1: that since he bought the team. It's why he and
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. But it heads which listen, you cut the checks,
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  Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. You would say the
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  Speaker 1: best case for the health of an organization would be
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  Speaker 1: an owner in the background paying a guy a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money to run your franchise, coach your franchise. You
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  Speaker 1: just cast them checks, enjoy it in the suite, and ideally,
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  Speaker 1: you know, win some Super Bowls over the course of
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  Speaker 1: your career. Jerry is not taking that tactic. But I think,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of this, Jerry Jones the GM. Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Jones is the GM. I say it all the time
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  Speaker 1: because Jerry literally says it when they ask him, Jerry,
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  Speaker 1: when will you ever relinquish being the GM? And he
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  Speaker 1: always goes on these rants of like, well I'm signing
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  Speaker 1: the check, there'd be a middleman and might as well
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  Speaker 1: I just do it. So I'm watching this documentary and
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking Jerry is gonna be on the horn trying
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  Speaker 1: to wheel a deal. It turns out the guy running
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  Speaker 1: the entire draft room is Steven Jones. And listen, you
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  Speaker 1: get old enough. I knew a lot of people growing
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  Speaker 1: up whose families had small businesses, farmers, people in construction,
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  Speaker 1: and as either the grandparents or now you know where
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  Speaker 1: I'm at in life, the parents get into their seventies, raighties,
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  Speaker 1: it turns out so and so owns company X. But
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  Speaker 1: it's a family business. The kid is doing it all.
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  Speaker 1: And when we think about the cowboys, we go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry's making this happen. Jerry's negotiating in buttonheads with David Mulgetta,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry and some of the times clearly he is a
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  Speaker 1: part of that. But it's pretty clear when you watch
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  Speaker 1: these videos, and even if you haven't watched the documentary,
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  Speaker 1: if you just watch the clips that have gone viral online,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Jones might as well be the GM. He's running
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  Speaker 1: the trade chart, he's running the calls. And the other
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  Speaker 1: thing is when you see on these videos him calling
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, Jimmy Haslam's not picking up the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Berry when he calls the Miami Dolphins. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even see Stephen Ross in the room. I'm sure he's there,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not on the video. He's talking to the
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  Speaker 1: GM and the assistant GM when he called the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: be Stephen Jones. He's not talking to Jeffrey Larry. He's
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  Speaker 1: talking to Alie Roseman, who also on that video. Got
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  Speaker 1: down to brass tacks pretty quick and a deal was made.
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  Speaker 1: Hey we want this, you want this? No, Yeah, deal's done.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go two franchises. We're ready to pull the trigger
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  Speaker 1: when a deal needs to get done. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we do a poor job. And ultimately, like in the
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  Speaker 1: people that I've known, if whoever the patriarch of the
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  Speaker 1: operation wants something done, that thing will get done. But
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes they get discussed in the world like
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  Speaker 1: they're more active than they typically are. And as they age,
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  Speaker 1: most people become a little hands off, and the younger
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  Speaker 1: person in their family who is running point on all
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  Speaker 1: the deals is the guy actually doing everything. And you
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  Speaker 1: watched Stephen Jones handle himself in that room look pretty normal.
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  Speaker 1: Like I've said this forever, and Jerry has been a
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  Speaker 1: very very important figure in the history of the league,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously your Cowboy fan, you're pretty disappointed. You haven't
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  Speaker 1: even been to a championship game in three decades, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of unheard of. I mean, the Jags were
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  Speaker 1: in one not that long ago, right, The Cardinals have
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  Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl. I mean some of the
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  Speaker 1: worst franchises in the NFL have had success, right. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the Seattle Seahawks, who when I was a kid
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  Speaker 1: were not good, have won multiple Super Bowls in the
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  Speaker 1: last decade. Right, And I just think you look at
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you would say more should be desired. Totally
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  Speaker 1: agree in their own division, Eli won a couple. Howie's
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  Speaker 1: now won a couple, right, He's like, what is it
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  Speaker 1: took Dan Snyder ruining that franchise to only make it
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  Speaker 1: like you weren't the incompetent one. But you watch over
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  Speaker 1: the course of this last I don't know, seven eight years.
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  Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys do a good job. They've
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  Speaker 1: drafted well for a long time because they clearly empower
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  Speaker 1: their scouting staff. But I think when you get in
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  Speaker 1: your mid eighties, like Jerry looks old, Hell, Steven looks old.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like Steven's thirty eight years old. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think his kid was in high school like ten
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  Speaker 1: years ago. I remember when they played that high school
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  Speaker 1: championship game at AT and T and Steven's kid was
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  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. That that had to be a minimum
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  Speaker 1: seven eight years ago. So I just think this version
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  Speaker 1: the way we talk about the Cowboys isn't the version
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  Speaker 1: that's actually happening because Jerry no longer is running point
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  Speaker 1: in all this stuff. Like ultimately you have to okay it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in the draft room if Steven wanted to draft
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  Speaker 1: someone else, but like Steven's running the show. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing that happened I think over the last four or
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  Speaker 1: five days is the Steelers. You know, Aaron Rodgers is
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  Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent, but they placed some tender that
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  Speaker 1: so they would get a comp pick. I'd never even
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  Speaker 1: heard of it, and it's pretty clear this Aaron Rodgers situation.
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  Speaker 1: One of their local beat rids was I think wrote
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  Speaker 1: in his column over the last couple of days that
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  Speaker 1: patients could be wearing thin inside the Steelers kind of
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  Speaker 1: brass to this. Aaron Rodgers situation hasn't been figured out.
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  Speaker 1: And one of my predictions was during the draft is
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  Speaker 1: I thought we'd know. I guess Thursday, But if you
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  Speaker 1: would have told me over the course of Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: and even Sunday, I would have been like, we have
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  Speaker 1: a resolution with Aaron Rodgers and a contract has been determined.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't think this is that emotional, like
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  Speaker 1: I'll defend Aaron Rodgers. Here Aaron Rodgers saw him Alik Willis,
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  Speaker 1: who started a career four games, who's gonna get his
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: teeth kicked in down in Miami, who couldn't throw a
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  Speaker 1: strike to save his life. I don't know if he
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  Speaker 1: saw that clip. Just get twenty five million dollars year.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers cut them a major discount. I think he
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  Speaker 1: had ten million dollars guaranteed, and when it was all
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  Speaker 1: said and done, his contract was thirteen million dollars. If
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  Speaker 1: I was Aaron Rodgers, I'd go, well, if I played
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  Speaker 1: for twenty million dollars, that would essentially be giving you
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  Speaker 1: guys a two year, fifteen and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 1: a year. Look around the league, Who the fuck is
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  Speaker 1: playing for that much money. Daniel Jones just got forty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars a year, couldn't even make it to December
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  Speaker 1: without tearing his achilles and breaking his leg. So you
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  Speaker 1: have this guy who without me last year, there's no
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  Speaker 1: way you make the playoffs. I think we can all
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  Speaker 1: agree on that you need me. I've seen your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: room texing people in the league, and I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: The Drew Aller pick people think is insane. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: he was not getting drafted probably like the fifth or
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  Speaker 1: sixth round. This is I mean, you look at the
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  Speaker 1: two guys the previous year, Kiley Leonard, Will Howard both
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: went in the sixth, seventh round. So Drew Aller, I get,
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  Speaker 1: he's got some traits like car I understand Carson Beck
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  Speaker 1: went on the second day as well. Carson Back actually
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  Speaker 1: has proven to be a decent football player. Drew Aller
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  Speaker 1: has not proven that by any means, and he's coming
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  Speaker 1: off an injury. But that's neither here nor there. I
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  Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers wants a big race because he goes
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  Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be my last year. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: playing again for fifteen million dollars now, you don't need
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  Speaker 1: to pay me forty. But if we look at it
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  Speaker 1: over a two year span, I would say that number
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  Speaker 1: somewhere between twenty and twenty five million dollars. And that's
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  Speaker 1: where I would guess the Steelers are balking at a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of like we thought we could just keep
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  Speaker 1: rolling you for ten fifteen million dollars a year, and
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers goes not so fast. And that's where I
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  Speaker 1: think this Arizona Cardinal. When I was at the Combine
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the first night I got there, I was just having
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  Speaker 1: dinner by myself at this at this like restaurant bar,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like a steakhouse. I was like, you
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: know what, I kind of want a nice meal first
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  Speaker 1: night away from the I think it was my first
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  Speaker 1: night ever away from the baby. I was like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I just I just want to get like
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  Speaker 1: a nice steak. Got a couple of crab cakes in Indianapolis.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I did that, though they were fantastic,
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  Speaker 1: A couple of cocktails, and just there was a basketball
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  Speaker 1: game on. I think it was like a duke North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Just enjoying myself and I saw James Palmer, and you
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: know he's reporter covered the Broncos forever worked at NFL Network,
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: say what's up to him? And Nate Hackett was with him,
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  Speaker 1: so I introduced myself. Nate Hackett went to UC Davis,
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  Speaker 1: where I'm born and raised, where my dad went to school,
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  Speaker 1: and I spent eighteen years of my life. Nate Hackett's dad,
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  Speaker 1: who coached at UC Davis, sold his house to one
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  Speaker 1: of my best friends, Guy Haverman's parents, when they moved
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  Speaker 1: to Davis. Guy Haverman lived in Nate Hackett's house as
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  Speaker 1: a kid. Guy showed up to Davis I think in
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  Speaker 1: like eighth or ninth grade, and so we start talking
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  Speaker 1: about it and shooting the shit. They're drinking a bottle
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  Speaker 1: of wine. I just walk over my cocktail kind of
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  Speaker 1: barge in on their conversation. But we're just all shooting
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  Speaker 1: the shit, and then I what are you doing now?
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I'm working for the Cardinals. So I
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I live in Scott Seale. We just
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: talked really quick and then I left and their night
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  Speaker 1: went on. So when I saw this story about Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers Cardinals gaining some buzz I went, was it Nate
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  Speaker 1: Hackett one of his best friends. Mike Lafleur is Matt
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  Speaker 1: Lafleur's brother, who obviously Aaron Rodgers holds in high regard.
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  Speaker 1: And then I look today, they have forty million dollars
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  Speaker 1: in cap space. Now, Jeremiah Love, I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 1: what his contract will be, but you advertise that money whatever,
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  Speaker 1: the signing bonus is thirty million dollars over the course
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: of the four year contract. You have a lot of
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: room where you could easily sign Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: we'll give you one year twenty five million dollars. So
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: what if the Steelers have to bid for a service.
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  Speaker 1: What else do the Cardinals have going on? Jacoby Brissett,
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  Speaker 1: who's mad and wants the contract guaranteed, Gardner Minshew, who
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been good in a long time, or Carson Beck
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  Speaker 1: who to me, if Aaron, you know, obviously goes back
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  Speaker 1: to the Steelers, I would think about when Carson's ready,
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving him as many games as I can this year.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think this thing is simply over money,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't blame eron like I think it gets
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  Speaker 1: blown out of proportion when players go you guys know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a business, Like, yeah, guys, we understand it's a business.
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  Speaker 1: Like everyone's getting paid here, but sometimes like you have
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  Speaker 1: to act in your best interest and if this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be your last year, you're not just gonna take
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  Speaker 1: a discount because like I get to wear the Steelers uniform.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you're think you're getting me easy because Mike
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: McCarthy's back now, Like what you're just gonna roll out
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  Speaker 1: will Howard mcarthy can tack him up all you want,
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  Speaker 1: Like not typically how it works. You're just starting a
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  Speaker 1: six round pick year two when he's never played in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. So I think the Steelers will eventually cave
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: and his number will be much higher than it was
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  Speaker 1: last year. Some other stories around the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: is you know anthy Richson over the course, I think
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  Speaker 1: at the combine asked for a trade, which I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the Colts were gonna trade him no matter what. But
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  Speaker 1: then once Ota started, it's like, bro, you haven't been traded.
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  Speaker 1: The draft came and went. The Packers, who were interested
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  Speaker 1: in him, just signed Tyrod Taylor. So it's like the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: who I would have been. I could see Andy Reid
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  Speaker 1: having some interest signed justin fields. It's like, bro, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a market right now. You can ask for
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  Speaker 1: a trade, but it takes two to tango. It's like
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  Speaker 1: in the draft, like, hey, I'd love to trade back.
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  Speaker 1: You start picking up the phone. No one wants to
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  Speaker 1: trade up. You just have to stick and pick. So
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Anthy Richison eventually had to look in the mirror and
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: go I got to rehab my brand because obviously on
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: the field is not good. But off the field, I
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: don't think people are doing cartwheels like, let's get Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Richardson in our building. So to me, I guess i'd
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  Speaker 1: give him credit. But to me, you didn't have a choice,
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  Speaker 1: Like you just gotta show a kind of a team player.
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  Speaker 1: No one is trading for you. They would give you
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  Speaker 1: away if the would, if someone would take the contract.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: So Anthony Richardson showed up was basically a formality because
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: nobody right now wants them. These rookie mini camps. I
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: saw Fernando the Raiders just had their rookie mini camp
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and he gets under center for the first time. I
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: remember talking to a friend, I think it was Khalil
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Max first year and he was like bro rookie Mini
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Camp and he worked for the Raiders for a while
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  Speaker 1: and he used to always tell me they are the
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: biggest shit shows because you have all these rookies, especially
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: if you have a high pick like Fernando Mendoza. He's
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: a bad example because he hasn't been making visits. But
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: you know, if you get if you're the Chiefs and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: you bring in Delane and Peter Woods and r Mason Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: and you bring these guys have been making visits. They
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: haven't been working out. I saw Brian Schottenheimer. I think
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  Speaker 1: they just had their rookie. Minnie Camp said no one
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  Speaker 1: was in shape, because no one's in shape right. All
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  Speaker 1: the draft picks are doing private workouts, traveling to different teams,
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  Speaker 1: or doing zoop interviews. Football players are creatures of habit,
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  Speaker 1: Like I know, I am. I'm sure a lot of
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: people listening are creatures of habit. This is where the
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  Speaker 1: kid has really thrown me off. When my routine gets
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  Speaker 1: thrown off, I mentally I kind of break. So I've
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  Speaker 1: had to learn to kind of be adaptable. And I
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: think players are no different. Typically, their life January through
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  Speaker 1: December is pretty structure, how they work out, when they train,
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  Speaker 1: when they practice, and during that draft period, it's all
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  Speaker 1: thrown out the window. So you go to rookie minning camp.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the guys you drafted are not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: in shape, so you got to be very careful, careful
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  Speaker 1: about pushing it too hard because they get injured. You
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: have all these Johnny tryhards and listen, sounds like I'm
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: making fun of them. Clearly, if you played a high
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: level college football and are getting invited to a NFL
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  Speaker 1: mini camp, like, that's an impressive accomplishment in itself. If
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you know a dude that's forty and went, hey, I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: played it. I played you know, football at Boise State,
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  Speaker 1: and I got invited to the Kancy Chiefs mini camp
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. I didn't make it, but that's that's
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  Speaker 1: my claim to fame. Like God, a pretty decent player, right,
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  Speaker 1: So all these guys getting invited have done something in college,
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  Speaker 1: right and showed enough to at least get a phone call.
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  Speaker 1: But no one knows the place. Half the people are
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  Speaker 1: in shape, no one knows what they're doing. You only
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  Speaker 1: get a couple days. It's just kind of a zoo.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: So I saw the headline that Fernando Mendoz is taking
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the first snaps under center really of his career. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: would say the only thing holding him back from being
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the starter week one over Cousins is how quickly he
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: can get comfortable under center and then the dropbacks from
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there and in that offense play action, the boots, the waggles,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: all his stuff was in shotgun. So even if I'm
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on the move, balls snapped to me, I'm going right
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: or left. A huge part of the Kobak Shanahan, Mike,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: going back to Mike and going back to Bill Walsh
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: under center movement, the steps turning your back to the defense.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: It is just something that you can't really prepare for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: being in shotgun in your whole career. Now, how quick
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you get accustomed to that. That's how quick he'll get
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: on the field. But there's no guarantee. So when people
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: go you think Fernando Mendoza will start Week one, all
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: have an opinion in like middle of August, is he
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: comfortable doing that? Because if he is, then he's going
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to be better than Kirk Cousins. If he's not. Remember
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who played for Sunny Dyke's at Cal who's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: now at TCU. Entire offense, spread offense in the shotgun right,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So Jared Goff's rookie year now it was Jeff Fisher.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. But I bet even if Jared
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Goff was sitting here right now, even if he had
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, he would have been a little uncomfortable. I mean,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers said the first year they
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: were around the floor in Shanahan and Atlanta and in
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, like playing under center and turning their back
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to the defense is just an uncomfortable feeling that they
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: weren't at ease with. And then once they got over it,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: it opens up the offense and make things a lot easier.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So that's definitely something to keep an eye on with
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. I think Veitch said last week to McAfee
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that Mahomes' rehab is and I remember talking to a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: buddy on the staff at the combine. They're like, this
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: guy's attacking it like it's fucking climbing Mount Everest. You know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: The headline is he's gonna be ready to participate in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: No ta's I would imagine they will ease him into
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the offseason. I think the goal would be by the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: time the Pats come on in training camp, is Patrick
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Mahomes a full go because I think you got to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: be very careful acl achilles. I mean, look at Jason Tatum,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: right Jason Tatum said after they lost, He's like, yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: my right leg was only eighty five percent of the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: same strength as the other leg. And once you get
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: off kilter with the leg, it's like how Klay Thompson
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: torn achilles. Next year he tears his h or acl
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: that he tears achilles. Because until your both legs are
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: at full strength, like most healthy humans are when you're
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: rehabbing back, Daniel Jones is gonna be into the same
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: category different injury. But you want to be very very
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: careful with the opposite leg that you're not putting too
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: much pressure on it because then you're likely to tear
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: something in the other leg and then you're just back
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: at square one. The whole rehab process was pointless. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: my guess is with Patrick Mahomes, they take this May
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  Speaker 1: comes to a quarterback is Brendan Soorsby, who officially, over
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days acquired legal counsel. And I
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: think they're trying to find out immediately whether he's gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: be suspended and if so, how long. And I've kind
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of come around. I mean, I don't think he's in
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: trouble for gambling on Cincinnati Reds games. He's clearly in
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: trouble for betting on his own team. He was also
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a true freshman, like boys are dumb, but I also
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: understand if you're gonna be in bed with gambling. You
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: cannot have players betting on games that, even if they're
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: red shirting, they're a part of. That is a very
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: very slippery slope. I don't think and definitely the NFL
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't care about this. Like you're allowed to gamble on
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the NBA, You're allowed to gamble on the PGA Tour.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: You're just technically not supposed to do it in the building,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: but you can gamble on other sports. You just can't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: gamble of Like, Hey, I'm on the practice squad. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: know Lamar Jackson's injured. I'm gonna bet on our team
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to lose or win or win, right because maybe I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: got a buddy on another team who, hey, three of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: their five offensive linemen are out this week. Can't have that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: There has to be some integrity. And I also though,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: would have to see, like if you bet one hundred
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: dollars for his own team to win, I don't really
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: give a shit. I don't think most people care, though
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I understand that I could see them taking this extremely
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: seriously and suspending him for the season. Now. One thing
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that is very clear about the NCUBLEA is they don't
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like getting sued. I mean, they have lost lawsuit after
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: lawsuit after lawsuit. I mean, you could argue that their
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: kind of operation and their organization is holding on by
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a very very thin string. If these football programs ever
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to go into business with each other and ditch them,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: what would they do if they ever separate from the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: academic side of their universities and just become the Alabama
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: football program where you don't have to go to school.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you would need the NCUBLEA, but
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: my guess will be he's gonna get a harsh suspension.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: They will try to sue or get an arbitrator involved.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You know, the supplemental draft. The way that works is
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: historically it's like a guy right now realizes he's going
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to be academically ineligible for the fall, and he's a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: good player. Well, do you know who doesn't care about
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: your academic eligibility? The NFL. They don't give a shit
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: what your GPA is if you're a good player, right, So, guys,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: historically a lot of it has been that, and back
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in the day, the transfer situation was much more difficult.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: So once the supplemental and there hasn't been one I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: think since twenty nineteen is the first round starts, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: if you want to pick Brennan Soorsby, you just say, hey,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: we'll pick Brennan Soresby. But if I'm the Arizona Cardinals,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I have the third pick, and that it's the same
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: draft order that just happened. And if I'm the you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just picking teams New England Patriots. I don't pick
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: till the end of the round, so as the rounds go.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Obviously no one would take this guy in the first round,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and I haven't watched that much of him. If he
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: came to supplemental draft, I'll peak at him. But like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I guess is these teams like this is one of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: those situations that are how comfortable are you going to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: be when you have similar situations. We've had guys get
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: suspended for this, and you don't have that much time
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: one to vet the person because he's not coming out
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like a normal prospect where you have all off season
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and a huge part of his story was what was
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: he gonna look like transferring to Texas Tech. All eyes
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: were gonna be on him. So I know a lot
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of people think he'll go to the supplemental draft. I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: think it's a pretty big red flag because there's so
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: much unknown about what's going on. He's checked himself into rehab.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: As he's still there, he's getting this lawyer like. It's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: kind of a messy situation for a league that is
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: also very sensitive with the gambling of their own players,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: because we can't get to a spot where it's just
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like no integrity of the game and it's like everything
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is everything fake because some people believe that, and there
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: are times when you're watching, especially if you're gambling on it,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you're like, I think this thing's rigged. In these leagues
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I've see college, they're very sensitive to that. And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: my guess is, you know, would Sores be be cool
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: if he only gets a three game suspension and playing
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: out the rest of the year. Cause to me, if
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it gets like over half the season, I would guess
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he just goes in the supplemental draft. Uh. The other
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: story from this week or it happened a day. Actually,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not a Yankee fan, but I've always appreciated the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: brand and the power of their fan base. I remember
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: going to Europe when I was in college and seeing
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the Yankee hats everywhere. They're a worldwide brand and John
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Sterling was the voice of the Yankees. Didn't miss a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: game for thirty years. And when I was a kid,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: it felt like they won a World Series every single year.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: It's like, did they win ten World Series? Turns out
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: they wanted ninety six, They won a ninety eight, ninety
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: nine two thousand and then Luis Gonzales actually not far
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: away from where I'm sitting, hits the crazy Bloop single
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: with Kurt Shieling and Randy Johnson. The Diamondbacks. They could
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: have won four straight and then they lost again to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the Marlins. They didn't win again until the late two thousands.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But you know, baseball, I grew up loving radio, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: once you start working in sports radio and you see
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: how the sausage is made Historically, you know, radio's never
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: meant less terrestrial radio than it does today. But in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: certain markets it's still pretty big. Like the Celtics losing
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know who. That was great for Mike Vrabel because
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: ninety eight to five, which you could argue is as
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: big and in terms of their market, might be the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: biggest radio station currently in America because in Boston and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: New York and Philadelphia and Chicago, some of these markets
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: still crush when it comes to radio, they get massive ratings.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Where I live in Arizona, local radio is deader than
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: door nail when it comes to sports talk and your
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: voice of a baseball team, especially when it's as prominent
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of a baseball team as the Yankees become a huge
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: part of people's and when the Yankees really took off
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: from the nineties, the Internet didn't exist. Most people did
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: not have one hundred cable TV channels. You didn't have
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that many options for things to do. So if you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like sports and you like the Yankees, you hurt that
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: guy a lot. And because of the sport, not every
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: game's on it at seven o'clock at night. You play
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of day games. You play on the weekends.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: So if you're in your car, you were just hearing
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this human being and growing up a big Giants fan.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Mike Kruco and Dwayne Kuiper, it's a little different sterling
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: because they were TV guys, but they also did radio
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and the way the Giants worked. They got John Miller,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they got Dave Fleming. All their guys kind of do
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it all now. Kuiper and Mike Kruco, the majority of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: their work is on television, but like they can be
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: heard on radio constantly and they become a huge part
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of your life and you feel like you know these guys.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And obviously baseball isn't quite the same of what it
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: used to be the national pastime, but this guy. When
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the Yankees really took off, baseball was enormous. And the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yankees in the late nineties, I remember watching those World
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Series on television. I remember when Bruce Bochie and Tony
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Gwynn took them on in that World Series after they
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: beat the Braves and the Yankees did they sweep them
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: or maybe those gentlemen sweep It was like, this team
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is fucking incredible and unlike you know the Dodgers, who
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you know they trade for Mookie Bets, they buy Otani
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and Yamamoto. You know, Derrek Tito was a homegrown guy.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Hori Pisada, Andy Pettitt, like there was
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: an organic nature to those teams. And I can't imagine
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of Yankee fans and New York is our
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: biggest media market. Now, he's eighty seven years old, he's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: been sick, he's hasn't been doing it for a while,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: but the guy went thirty years, thirty years and didn't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: miss a baseball game. I feel very fortunate that when
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I the way my life has played out working in sports,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it turned out to be football. Like there was a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: point in time if a professional baseball team would have
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: hired me out of college. Who knows, not that I'm
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that big of a baseball guy, but I probably would
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: have tried it and done it. I worked for this tiny, tiny,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: little summer league team when I was at cal Pauly.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fun, but it was like you played
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: thirty straight You played thirty games and thirty five days.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: It was like, god damn every single day. Football you
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: played once a week, you know. So these if you're
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Mitch Holtis or Greg Popo or San Dusky who retired,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: not that Sandusky, but the guy that called the Ravens games,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you just get the prep ball week, get excited to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: get to watch all the other games and call your game.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Travel with it. It's it's the easiest sport by four
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to be associated with it on the outside, obviously as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a player and a coach's intention, but in baseball, like
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: these guys are there every single day and they become
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: a huge, huge part of people's lives, and you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: rip because to have that career to be a part
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: of one of the biggest dynasties of my lifetime, definitely
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: in baseball, the biggest dynasty. We'll see if the Dodgers
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: can match them, but that team to win that many
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: World Series and that short period of time was really
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: cool to watch. Before we do a mailbag, I do
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: want to do a quick Dad diaries and this is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: actually about my nephews. Maria is in a wedding. So
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: last week she went home on like Friday, She went
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to the wedding shower on Saturday, and then just stayed
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: with her mom throughout the week. And I was like,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: when they left on Friday morning, I drove them to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the airport, helped him load all the stuff, and then
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: she just took Jack through check in and they were gone.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, She's like, come help me,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: come back. So I went out on Friday and we
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: went to her brother's has a daughter who just turned one, Lucy.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: She had a birthday party. Her birthday party was nicer
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: than any birthday party I ever had in forty years
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: of life, not even close. I mean it was. It
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was incredible. There were like eighty people there, kids everywhere.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I kept telling mad Or brother, I'm like, none of
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: your friends have fertility issues. I'll tell you that their
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: babies everywhere you turn. And uh, my brother. We stayed
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: with my mom who lives in the general Sacramento area,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and my brother, she lives in the cul de Sac,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: lives in the Cold de Sac too, and which is great.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You know, my dad's dead. The kids or he has
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a six year old and a three year old. Of
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the three year old Maddie, she takes to school and
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: picks up and I guess every single day Maddie's no dummy.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, I want to go to McDonald's. So she
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: takes them, but get chicken nuggets and he asks for
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a milkshake all the time. My mom' struggles say no,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: gets some a lot of milkshakes. He's living large. They
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: hang out. I came out one morning at like seven
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: thirty in the morning on Saturday morning and Maddie was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: just sitting there with my mom watching cartoons. So it's
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it's very cool for her. But one thing these kids
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: no is that she doesn't say no. And I was
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: thinking this weekend, Like I remember begging for stupid shit
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: at like Long's Drugs, which is like CVS mixed with
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a target. I don't think they exist anymore. Always wanting toys,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: her saying no, always wanting to go to McDonald's or
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: burger King on the way home, her saying no. Or
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: one time I don't exactly remember what happened, but like
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: most probably the first twelve thirteen years of my life,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: we said this two bedroom house. Since they've remodeled it
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in the house, that's a lot different. But then it
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was just two bedrooms, probably like I don't know, two
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: thousand square feet, two bedrooms, a kitchen. Honestly, it might
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: have been less than that. It was a small house.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Houses in the eighties, you know, in the seventies. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: think the house was built in the sixties. They were
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just smaller. So me and my brother shared a room
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and I just remember pissing her off so bad and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: she came at me with a spoon. I definitely deserved it,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and she was just she It was great. I mean,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: when I would get in trouble, she'd always threatened to
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: call my dad. She wasn't the disciplinarian, but this time
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I remember I made it really really mad. That's probably
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, nine ten. But on Sunday morning,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we're flying out at like noon. I can hear it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: probably seven fifteen in the morning. We're in the back
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: bedroom and they're out like toward the kitchen, but there's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like a hallway, but you can the sound travels in
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the house. So sometimes like if she's watching TV in
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the living room, even though it's in the opposite end
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of the house, she has tiles and the sound just travels,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: so you can hear a lot of what's going on
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: out there. And I just hear my brother really and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: his two kids, Maddie and David, like ah, and there's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a commotion going on out there. It turns out Maddie
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and David, who you know, young kids walk over to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: my mom's house like seven, seven thirty in the morning
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and look at my mom Joan and say can we
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: get some ice cream? And she can't say no, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: she gives them a bowl of ice cream. And then
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: my brother, who is just looking for his children who
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: are nowhere to be found, walk in and there is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: David eating ice cream at seven forty five in the morning.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So It's just it's funny how life works, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and you see these memes and these videos on online,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Like your parents treat you way different than they treat
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: their grandchildren. Right, So, yeah, my nephew's at ice cream
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: for breakfast. Okay, let's bang out a couple of mailback
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: questions at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: fire in those dms, get your questions answered here on
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the show. Just curious. What are a couple of your
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: favorite first round picks. Well, if rvel rees, let's say
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: goes back to school, I think there's a chance non quarterback,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: he's the best player in the country. One more year
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, one more year of Patricia puts up dominant,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: is unblockable, and we go this is one of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: better players in recent memory coming out of the draft.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But he was twenty years old, didn't have that much experience.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: People didn't know what position he was really gonna play.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: It's like he could be Micah Parsons. But those are
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the type guys I am taking all day long, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I think in a couple of years, if they are
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: able to figure this out, they could have one of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the best pass rushing duos in the NFL because that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: duel Carter is he has no excuse not to be
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player, and rvel Reese's ceiling is every
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: bit is high, if not higher. So I think them
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: getting I think the Titans could regret that. I really do.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I think they could have got a wide receiver later.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I understand liking Carnell Tape, but I would have had
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a really, really hard time passing on Rfl Reeves. And
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: then the other is I would imagine on every draft
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: board Caleb Downs was a top three or four player
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in the draft. People just thought he was one of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the best football players in this draft. The Dallas Cowboys defense.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously he trade Michaeh Parsis right before the beginning of
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the season, but no one knew where to go. You
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: would watch them play. It was like watching Texas Tech
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: for Mike Leach. I was like, are these even Division
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: one players? Are these even NFL players? Does anyone know
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Could have been Ibra Flus, who I think.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know what cons he's been on, but he's
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: he's pulled a pretty good con job. Bill Pollian got
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: him hired, and then you know with the Bears and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: then the Cowboy I mean, Matt Everflus is just position
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: coach at best, but no one knew where they were going.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So now you get Caleb Downs, who's one of the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: best players in the draft, who is also like a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: genius and just can point everyone where to go and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: what to do, and you're clearly gonna have a defense
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: with a lot more younger players on it. You know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: they draft Lawrence later in the first round. They have
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a bunch of veteran defensive linemen. Now, I just think
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: if you would have told Jerry Jones, Brian Schottenneimer, Stephen
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Jones that Caleb Downs would be on your team and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you would only have to trade up one spot, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: don't think they would have believed you. I don't think
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: most people in the league would have believed you. So
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you could argue that's my favorite pick just because the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: plug and play nature of it. It's just perfect when
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: it comes to playmakers that dcs specifically scheme for JJ, Chase, CMC, etc.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Once they start regressing, how long does it take for
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the coordinators to catch up where they realize they no
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: longer need to scheme for them. Example, I keep hearing
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: AJ is regressing, but defense is still treat him as
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a prime threat even if he isn't. At what point
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: do the dcs realize this. I think it's got it. It
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: takes a little time because you can't go into a game.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Let's say AJ Brown is never the same, and then
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you play him and you're like, you know what, We're
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: not gonna shade the coverage over there. We're just gonna
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: treat him like a run of the mill wide receiver
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: because we think, I know, he's making twenty eight million dollars.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: We view him as just a guy we see every week,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: no big deal. And then he goes for ten one
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns on you. You're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: gonna get crucified. It's like, oh, McCaffrey's not the same.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And then he rushes for one hundred and forty yards
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and scores three touchdowns against you. You are getting eviscerated.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of the coordinators get very nervous,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: like you gotta be really shitty for them not to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: pay attention to you, because like that's the whole point
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of the game plan. The other thing is if the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: player's regressing, but is the offense still revolve around him,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Because if the offense still revolves around him, if you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: take out their number one option, it makes it more
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: difficult unless you believe like their number two option is
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: like sneaky underrated. So I think it takes a little while,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it is because self preservation.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You don't want to get crushed. Big Steeler fan out
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City. Beautiful place, salt Lake. I can't
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: speak to Pittsburgh, never been there. What are your initial
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Will Howard seems like a big kid with
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a strong arm and won the Natty with Ohio Staten's
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that behind Rogers for a year. Everyone wants to know
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: about this guy. I just I've said over and over,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I think it is very, very difficult for a franchise
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to start a six rounder who's never played before Week one,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: even if it turns out like he's the next Kurt
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Warner or he's the next Rock Party. Kurt Warner got
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to start because Trent Green towards Acl Brock. Perty got
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to start because Trey Lance broke his ankle and Jimmy
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Garoppolo broke his foot. You just don't throw you can't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: be taken seriously inside your building. If you just hand
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the starting job to that guy. Now people on the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: team can go, this guy's good, this guy's good, this
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: guy's good. But typically it takes an injury for that
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to guy to get on the field. Now, if it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Will Howard Verse, you know, if Rogers never shows up,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it's Will Howard, Drew Aller and Mason Rudolph. You can
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: start him. But if it goes wrong, you're gonna get crushed.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Like it's a slippery slope. Part of when Kurt Warner
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: or Purdy gets in, there's no expectation. Right when Kurt
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Warner started Week two, no one, no one even thought
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: or was it week one? The trunk had hurt in
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the preseason perty got thrown in in like December or
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: late November. Your expectation on the player is nothing. Enjoy
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: when you talk about what it was like growing up
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: as a kid in the nineties, hop on our bikes,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: meet up with neighborhood friends, kys a little mischief that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we did that we did. I remember I was telling
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: someone the other day we had this water balloon launcher,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and I remember in the summer one year me I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: used to run with these older kids, and the UPS
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: truck used to drive around the neighborhood, you know, like
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the afternoon to do his drop offs. And if you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: could time it up right on the water balloon launcher,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: if you hit the side of the UPS truck as
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he's driving by, it would make like a bomb like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: sound because the UPS thing. And one day we were
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: on bikes and one dude was in a golf cart
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and the guy got out of his golf cart and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: chased him down and we all got caught and we
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: got in big trouble. But it's simpler times. This is
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: one I was like twelve. I was born in a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: nine so right in the cusp, growing up without cell
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: phones and the internet. Gaming has become a huge kids
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: even prefer to watch others play video games. Don't get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: me wrong. My siblings and I got down and sixty
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: four GoldenEye, NFL Blitz Mario Kart as a JV high
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: school football coach. Now I'm noticing how gaming is all
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: they want to do and talk about. My step son
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: loves sports, just turned six. I have a PlayStation I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: never use and hesitate to introduce him to because I
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: don't want him to lose the passion for real life
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and interaction. How do you think you will approach this
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: with Jack as he continues to grow up, not saying
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: gaming is bad, but I'm learning on the fly how
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to balance, so it's not all he wants to do.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on parenting and potential gaming. I yeah, I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I didn't love video
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: games when I was a kid. I remember PlayStation and
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: sixty four Sega. I remember I had a Sega when
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I was probably in junior high and sixty four was
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: pretty sweet. But by you know, Xbox, I never that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: was a little past my time. I didn't really play
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: video games. So after freshman year of college, so I mean,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I've gone twenty plus years of playing video games. My
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: wife does not like them, so that that's he We're
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: not gonna have a gaming kid. But I'll be honest.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, i'd write down a lot of
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: stuff and how I'm gonna approach life lessons and stuff.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned this before. When your kid is
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: so young, you're just trying to get day to day.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It's like yesterday we're in the plane flying home and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: he has a meltdown, and I'm like, oh my, what
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: do you do. You're just You're like Darrell Reeves on
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: an island. Everyone's staring at you. He's he's screaming as
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: loud as he's ever screamed. I mean, the whole American
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Airline plane is just echoing up and as like, oh
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: my god. Everyone. A couple of people like, hey, I'm
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a grandparent. No worries. One late, he said after it
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: went on for a couple of minutes, like I didn't
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: even know he was there till that. So everyone was cool.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But you're just in the fog award, just trying to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: get by. But I think there's gonna be a fine balance.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've thought big picture about this. You can't
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: be one of those people that never gives your kid
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a device, right, or never let your kid go on
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a computer. Because he was born in nineteen or twenty
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: twenty six, so he's gonna be growing up in the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: thirties and the forties where think how often I mean,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I got I'm talking into a computer to make a living.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I wrote down notes on my iPhone, I'm recording it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: into an external monitor where I got two televisions that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I'm about to throw in the Knicks game that are
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: wired to my I mean, our whole life is technologically determined,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and we lived through it, most of us. Obviously, some
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: people for jobs don't. But even if you run a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: restaurant and you're this head chef, well, can I order
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: door dash? Can I get the thing delivered through my phone?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You don't want them to not understand and be technologically advanced.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: My brother's kids are older, you know, at six, and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: there's a balance of how much you let them watch.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: You can't just never let them use the iPad or
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: never let them learn, you know, mess around with a computer, right,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: or they will just get lapped in society. Now, there's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: clearly a balance of you know, I can't just have you,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you know, being thirteen years old have a phone just
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: looking at porn all day. I don't know exactly how
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna attack that. But their life. It's funny. You
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: hear some of these stories from people who have like
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: high school kids, and they will like DM the girl right,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and they'll be talking on Snapchat or Instagram or TikTok
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And he says, when they get to school,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they won't even communicate like they will just text it
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: all night and they walk right by each other at school.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: That's like, we're not gonna that's not gonna be Tell Rady,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta communicate. We gotta talk. The one
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: thing he'll never have to do, which my generation did
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and everyone younger. If you wanted to talk to a girl,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: call your girlfriend, you had to call her house. Her
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: father might pick up the phone, her older brother might
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: pick up the phone. Her dad could listen as you're
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: talking to her. I remember text messaging first came out
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: when I was he was like a junior senior in
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: high school. I remember my high school girlfriend. We were
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: texting all the time. But back then you don't get
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: charged for texting anymore, right, it was like ten cents
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: of text. And I remember I was working for my
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: dad on the ranch and I remember like kind of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: looking down and I see this cloud of dust and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I was like doing something on a tractor, and it
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: was it had beds. So like if you're going to
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: drive a truck onto the field, you would have to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: kind of go around and then go up. You couldn't
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: go horizontally from an angle, You'd have to go vertically,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: so you weren't bumps. He doesn't even break stride. He's
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: going like fifty miles an hour hitting these bumps. I'm like,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: did I kill someone? And then as he gets closer,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the window comes down and I see outside the window
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: him holding some paper. So finally I just get out.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like what. He's just fucking furious. This shows yet
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: where we are with The bill was like six hundred dollars,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: which you know, two thousand and two a cell phone
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: bill for a high school kid six hundred dollars would
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: probably be like five thousand. Now he was so mad.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, I'm just texting her, like what you
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: didn't even I mean at the time, he wouldn't even
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: be able to comprehend what that meant or what that was.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And you got you got charge per text message. So uh,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: simpler times now, John, Who would you consider the next
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: up and coming coach in the NFL. That's a good question,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I would say. I think I heard someone say this
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the other day. There were ten openings this year, right,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: so next year or the previous year. I forget how
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: many there were in twenty four, but let's just say
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: there were five or six and that's like half the league,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: So half the league has come open in the last
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: couple of years. More than likely there aren't gonna be
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: ten again. There's a decent chance that it's three or four.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: If Mike Tomlin wants to coach in the NFL, Mike
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Tomlin is one hundred percent getting a job. So like
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is immediately taking one of the jobs, like
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh this year, like Vrable last year, they're just taking
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: one of the jobs. So then let's just say there's four.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I think Anthony Weaver, the Ravens defensive coordinator, is I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: met him at the combine. He's an impressive guy. He's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: he's very highly thought of. I would say Flores from
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: just a coaching standpoint, is clearly one of the best
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: coach in the league. Did suit the league and is
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: not great treating quarterbacks, so he's got to do a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: little rehabilitation with just I'm cool with offensive people because
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: one of the knocks I remember a coach telling me,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like Bro, some of the stories I've heard the way
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: he treats the offensive staff, It's like Bro, offense pays
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the bills in this league. But he's he's pretty elite.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I would say those two guys defensive guys offensively, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: mean all the Kobi X, all the floors have jobs.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: You know, if Jackson Dart and the Giants are really
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: good this year offensively, you know, Naggy clearly wanted that
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Titans job and they went with Robert Sala instead. Who
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you know, Saul was just coming off an incredible year
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: with the Niners and Naggie had a bad year, so
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't even that crazy. But if you tell me
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the Giants win eleven games and their offense is awesome
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: like Noggi, you probably get a job. But I you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is never getting a job. No one's hiring
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: that guy in the NFL. What if the Vikings sucked
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: this year, could Kevin O'Connell get fired because he would
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: immediately get high. But like, is he just safe there
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: for the next couple of years regardless how things go.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on. That'd be kind of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: my wild card. I'm a Seahawks homer, so I'll admit
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I'm biased. But are the Niners in trouble roster wise?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: They are now a clear third in the division in
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: my opinion. Kyle is no doubt about it. One of
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the best coaches, which is why they run Last year
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: was insane, but they lost solid. That being said, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: wonder if his power in the draft room is becoming
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: a problem. If you look at the niners last five
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: or six classes, it's abysmal. Outside of a generational pick
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: with Purdy, I look up and down their roster and
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I see age, injury prone, and lack of depth. They
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: will still be good because they got Kyle, but it
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: still feels like they're far away from a talent standpoint.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Only they could only go so far from a talent standpoint.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: You have to go back to nineteen to find a
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: great draft for them. Yeah, I mean your position coaches
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: cannot be making your picks. The position coach one. I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: was texting with a buddy this. You know, Kyle told
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Rich Eisen that the position coaches have to sell him
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: on a player. The position coaches are not your scouts.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: The position coaches are paid to coach their position. You
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: think Bill Walsh or Al Davis or Andy Reid or
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: John Schneider, Howie Roseman would let his position coaches pick
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: players or just have a ton of influence. Position coaches leave.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: There's no guarantee they'll be there more than a year
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: or two, and with the forty nine ers they leave
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: all the time, so that that was like what are
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: we doing? That being said, I would not count these
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: guys out. I think the Niners gonna be good. A
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: lot of question marks with health, but the high end
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: talent they have is elite. Their quarterbacks still elite, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: their coach is awesome. And Sala hurts, but you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, one of Kyle's best friends, like Sala, big
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator. He was awesome with McVeigh who's also
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: one of his best friends. I think that's about as
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: seamless of a transition as you're gonna make. And you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Kyle's pretty ruthless when it comes to that type stuff.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Everyone thought Gus Bradley was gonna be the job. You
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: cannot hire Gus Bradley to be your defensive coordinator, and
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I'm glad they did not. Nice guy, felt member of
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the bald community. He cannot be your defensive coordinator. So
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I think from a coaching standpoint, they'll be high end.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I just think Kyle and again strippling I had no
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: issue with, but the running back. You know, I think
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: some people are questioning that one A little bit understandable.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Everyone thought lat you know, they went twelve to five
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: last year with scrubs all over the place. So what
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: happens if they're just not nearly as injured because the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: previous year they were I guess three years ago now
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: they were in the Super Bowl. But yeah, there's no
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: doubt about it coming into the season, they're not going
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to be favorite to win the division like they were
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: last year. Seattle and the Rams should be both. I
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: haven't even looked through the odds. I would say Seattle
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and the Rams I would both put it like plus
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: one twenty five, and I put the Niners like plus
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: two to seventy five plus three hundred and the Cardinals
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like a plus ten thousand. I enjoyed the segment on
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: NFL Finance Cash in the Cap. This is a little
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: bit of an old DM. I tried to I got
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: so many new ones. I've left some people in the dust,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't want if you sent me a DM,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I want to answer it. But it seems to me
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that a top ten coach in a top ten quarterback
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: is what wins closer you get to the top five
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: in each category at the same time, the deeper the
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: playoff run is. This seems proven time and time again. Lombardi, Star, Noel, Bradshaw, Walsh, Montana, Akeman,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, Belichick, Brady Read Mahomes, so on. Even the
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Cardinals put it together short term with Air and Carson Palmer.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Slide the rankings any direction and you'll get winning seasons,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: playoff success, and more importantly, hope. As a fan, I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: would not disagree with you. I think football has become very,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: very simple. If you have an elite coach and you
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: have an elite quarterback, and the quarterback is playing well,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: you're a lock to win. If you have an elite
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: coach and your quarterback is a little up and down,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: but he's talented Bo Nicks, you can make the playoffs.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: You can be in the championship game. Rabel Drake may
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Right a couple of years ago, Hardball, Lamar Jackson. If
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady is better than Sean McDermott, the Bills are
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: gonna win big because we know Josh is unreal. Chan
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: was solid, but I don't think anyone thought Sean was
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like a top seven. I think he's better than the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: public beliefs, but like, you're not ranking him ahead of
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. If Joe Brady becomes like
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: one of the top offensive head coaches in the league,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win a Supa Bow in the next couple
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: of years. So totally agree. But that's where you also,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking about this the Celtics losing.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: They made a trade this summer or during the season
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: where they traded Anthony Simons for a center and the
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: reason for the trade was it saved him money that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: they it keeping below the luxury tax. I think the
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Knicks this year paying like fifty or sixty million dollars
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: in luxury tax. The Nuggets a couple of years ago
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: got rid of a bunch of guys to get under
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: the threashold. Several years ago, the Warriors, because they were
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: a repeat offender, were paying like one hundred and fifty
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million dollars in the luxury tax.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: If they hadn't shed some salary, the next bill the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: next year would have been like three hundred million in tax.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: In the NFL, there's no luxury tax, right, there's a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: hard cap. You can't go above it. You can spend
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: more cash than the cap right and manipulate deals, but
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you can never just have unlimited players because you can't
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: manipulate the cap that much once you have high priced players.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: We're in the NBA like it is what it is,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: and if you want to go way over the cap,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you are going to get a huge bill, and unless
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: you're winning championships, it is never going to be worth it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's like the Bengals, who are quote
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: unquote cheap, have three guys making huge cash on offense, quarterback,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: two wide receivers, and then this year trade the tenth pick,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: which would actually be a cost effective player for a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: guy making twenty five million dollars a year and give
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: him an extension in dexter lawrence. It's like, yeah, we
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: don't pay tax on any of it. I was like
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the power of the NFL over the NBA, who just
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: three x their media deal is everyone's rich. Everyone has
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the money if they want to. Everyone pulls from there.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: There is no local television deals. They're not as I
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: would say, what word am I looking for? Rely? They
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: don't rely on the local revenue like they do in
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the NBA and baseball. In baseball, it's a huge advantage
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: that the Dodgers sell out every single game fifty thousand people.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Like the Giants over the last couple of years have
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: not been good. They don't sell out like they used
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: to do with Buster Posey, Tim Linscom and Madison Bumgarner.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: They are making less money now than they used to
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: make and that impacts their bottom line. Where in the football,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's like the Bengals just had an awful season and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: they're still flushed with cash. It's just up to the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: owner whether he wants to be aggressive or not. And
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: it's one huge, huge advantage of just being in the
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: NFL in terms of the business structure of an owner.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: It's like you got the money if you want it,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and if you get the right GM who can figure
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: it out, Like you can do some serious damage. Where
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I mean baseball, only teams are even trying, and even
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: if you try, you're not guaranteed. Look at the Phillies
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and the Mets. They suck. Phillies got right ectually because
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: they played the Giants, but the Mets have been terrible.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Would love to know how you think the Rams will
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: approach paying these younger players. In twenty three, the Rams
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: drafted Puka, Byron Young, Steve Avila, Kobe Turner, and more.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams will have to make some serious
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: decisions over the next twelve months. This is the knock
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: on not going all in right now because Jared versus
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: going into year three, if he has a big year,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get an enormous contract. We saw if Puka
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: can get right with you know, with the UH rehab stuff,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: that number is not going to be small. So the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Chiefs have traded Tyreek Hill, have traded Trent McDuffie, not
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: because they didn't like those players on their team, because
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: financially it was like, we can't pay this much. So
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna have very very tough decisions now
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: maybe less need would go. This is why we got
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. So when Stafford was say he retires
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, we have a quarterback
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: who we like, who also doesn't make that much money.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: So I see both sides. But this could be the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: last year with this many good players on the team
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: because there's no way you can pay all these guys,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: especially if Puka gets on the straight and narrow. We
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: know how much his contract costs. If Jared Verse has
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a big season, we know how much edge rushers cost.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: So just in those two guys alone, I mean, Puka
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: would be one hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed, Jared
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Verse be over a hundred million dollars guaranteed. That's just
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: two players, not even counting your quarterback. Gets very, very complicated.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know which players want to see how this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: year plays out, but they're gonna get Trent McDuffie. They
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: just gave a hundred million dollars. It's complicated. I'm expecting
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: my second in July. Buckling Up Part two. I got
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the gram partially to message you. I enjoy and uh
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: most of your takes. I love football and graduated back
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: in eight. You have that I do disagree with is
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: that the cream always rises at the top. There are
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: plenty of quarterbacks who don't get the recognition like Stafford
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: when he was in Detroit did on a national scale. Also,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's career has been awesome since he left the Browns.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Imagine how many other quarterbacks got one shot and did
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: not get another. What do you think contributes to the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: third point is haven't heard too much business talk from
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: you in the last couple of months. Do you have
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: any stocks uc value in? I have one. I have
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: an ETF. No, this isn't financial advice called PBW. It's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: like a clean energy that I got heavily in like
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: three years ago, and that thing four years it plummeted.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I was down eighty percent and he goes like,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I could either take a loss or we
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: can just battle back. And you know, you would think
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: that the Democrats would be good for clean energy, but
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Trump this this thing has exploded when he's been in office,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: so it has ripped back. I meant like I averaged
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: down to like forty five dollars. I mean at one
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: point I was into like seventy. It was down below twenty,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and I think it closed the day at like thirty
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: seven thirty eight. I was always like, if I ever
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: get back to even, I'm out. But if I ever
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: get back to even, it means it's been ripping. So
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: no financial advice here, none. I wouldn't even recommend that one.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I've just I've been in it
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: so long and haven't wanted to take an l I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: would say the quarterback thing. Most guys do get another shot, though,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Like find me people that don't get another shot who
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: are drafted, I, you don't get another shot. The cream
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't always rise if you're drafted later, Like there's no
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: guarantee Will Howard or Riley Leonard or you know, Garrett
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Nussmeyer or any of those. But that's you weren't drafted
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: that I you did not have much value coming onto
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the market, and then you haven't done enough to get
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: a shot. But if you are drafted, I Baker Mayfield,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you get shots. Sam Darnold, you get shots. Daniel Jones,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: like Trey Lance has been signed multiple spots. He just
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: can't win a job. But Zach Wilson, like those guys
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: just haven't gone away. They're getting opportunities to play, you know,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: or to be on a team, to be a backup,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to win a backup job. And when you're a backup,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you're one rolled ankle or one broken classical away from
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: being the full time starter. So Matt Stafford also signed
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: up to stay in Detroit, right, he kept taking in
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: an obscene amount of money in contracts He could have
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: got out at points done or forced his way out
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: but he never did. He like of money and he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: got kind of lucky the way it played out, But
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: he was I don't want to say it was cool
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: with losing, but the money made him okay with losing.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: There's no way around it. Love the show and Dad Diaries.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I've just recently became a father as well, and ready
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to snap on the daily with the lack of sleep.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: It's no joke. Do you think less Need is secretly
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: happy the Puka went to rehab. Now they don't have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to match the contract from Smith and Jigba and allows
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: them to use the immature behavior as a bargaining chip. Well,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: it wasn't sustainable, you know. It's like he was in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: kind of no man's land where he was so elite,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: but then off the field like it was one thing
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: after another, and you just can't have that, especially when
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: the guy wants a lot of money. But if I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: go to rehab and I cleaned my shit up, it's like, Okay,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I understand you're not gonna pay me top dollar because
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I just went to rehab. That's part of life. See
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it came, I'll be ready week one. Well, what if
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I'm dominating again? You could argue the price and then
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I stay out of the straight and narrow. I don't
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: think the price is gonna go down if he has
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: another huge season. So I think he's happy when to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: react because he wants one of his best players, one
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: of the best picks that he'll ever make, to like
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: get a shit together, Rea, I don't. I think it
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: was technically like a wellness center or whatever, one of
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: those things they have in SoCal that for the rich
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: and famous. Regardless, I can't see another headline about you, buddy,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: But it can't. They're not gonna happen. Like justin Jefferson,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith, all these guys making all this money, they
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: never have negative headlines. They're never an issue. We get it,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: you're famous, you're in LA, but you can't be causing problems.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So do I think he was happy. I don't know
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: if he was happy. He just I think they just
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: want this to go away, Like figure it out, be
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: able to a hand. Mature if you can't handle booze,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: No more drinking. If you can't handle booze, trick a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: little less. Start hanging out with some fucking non losers,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Get with some normal people, Like can you just hang
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: out with Davante, Can you just hang out with like
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: people with some families, said of these streamers that have
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to lose because their job and the business
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: they're in is to do crazy shit. That's how they
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: make money. A potential fugazi Friday, I'm about to graduate
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: law school and pursue a career as a tax attorney.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Like any other business. A lot of what I do
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: is rubbing elbows. My fugazi is all these successful attorneys
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I talk to, love to chat for thirty minutes about guidance,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: career choices, et cetera. But each one of them, of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: these people make it very clear at the end of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: the convo that their firm is not looking for hire.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't freaking ask them for a job. I don't
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: expect them to just offer me one while we're sipping
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: on a beer the first time we met. I get
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: it from their angle. It's just funny to me. I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: hear you, Doug, actual bad question. Being a Birds fan,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I got to suffer through the awkward twenty five season
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: like us all. I don't think the old line collapse
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: injuries gets enough credit for the contribution to the mess.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's a one off disaster, but I designed it.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: At least twenty five percent of the twenty five offensive
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: implosion blame thoughts. Big Dom was extended. I saw that,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: So you lost Halliby, who I started working with back
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in the day, and Big Dom. Big Tom told me
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: some pretty funny stories. I don't think I'm privy to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: say about his life in the ex you know, not
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: about the extension necessarily, but Big Don's gone just a
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: lot going on. Guys just stud love that guy. There
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: can't be many security guards for people in his role.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: They extend, get a contract extension, and people talk about
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: online shows you he's really become a caricature. You guys
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. You had a guy have one
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: of the great seasons in the history of the league
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: at running back. And I mean the league was defined
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: by Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, like historically running
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: backs were like the best players in the league beside
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, and right there with the quarterbacks, especially in
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Walter Payton and Jim Brown's era. He just yeah, I mean,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I think you're running game. You know. Saquan even said,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: like did he work as hard? Was he his focused?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Just clear the offensive line injuries, the stout land, the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the mesh was off with the cohesion, the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: play calling was shitty. Saquon just couldn't get going. Did
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: he lead the league and most times hit behind the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage? It was his off. I mean, I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: totally agree, I couldn't agree more might even be more
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: than twenty five percent. But also shows you, like a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: lot of hurts of success is tied to the run game,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: which is why they hired Manion, who kind of is
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: going to get them under center, running the ball, play action,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: some easy layout throws. It's gonna be fascinating to watch
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: when on this. Being a Canadian fan, I'm also a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: huge CFL guy, and the rivalries that developed with the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: nineteen league make the games exciting. My questions are this,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: do you ever watch the CFL in the summer when
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: the American sports calendar is slow? If so, what are
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: your thoughts in the game overall? When you were a scout,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: how often did you look for CFL players? Appreciate the question.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: My second year in the league, I was a pro
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: quote unquote a pro scout, so basically you evaluate, I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: got like ten teams, so I evaluate all the players
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: on the team throughout the year. And then I also
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: do the leagues right practice squad guys too, and then
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: like the random minor league teams and CFL was one
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: of them. I actually went to Vancouver to scout this
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: guy in the BC Lions who was a defensive tackle
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  Speaker 1: who ended up staying in Canada, but we tried to
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  Speaker 1: sign him and he just wouldn't come. But he was
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: a legit remember in like six four two ninety. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I scouted the CFL multiple years. Actually I got nothing
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  Speaker 1: against the league. One of a buddy of mine's brother,
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  Speaker 1: Travis Brown, coached there for a long time. In the league,
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  Speaker 1: I've always you know, people have gotten their coaching professions
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  Speaker 1: started there. Obviously, once you play in the winner, it
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  Speaker 1: gets really cold certain places. It's a competitive league, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Where I grew up in Davis, UC Davis's rival with
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Sack State. Ricky Ray was the quarterback at Sack State,
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  Speaker 1: like when I was in junior high high school. He
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  Speaker 1: went on to become like a legendary quarterback the CFL.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't at this point in time in my life,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't watched it in my adult life. So beside
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  Speaker 1: for work, when I did it in the league. I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: have not watched the CFL. Now, if it's like on
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  Speaker 1: TV and I'm like having a beer and there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: else on, I will watch a little bit of it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the running starts from the wide receivers. The difference between
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: the two downs and the three downs right before a punt, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I respect it. That's why I would say I respect it,
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  Speaker 1: just don't really watch it. The volume