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- 0:05Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift.
- 0:36Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo,
- 0:40Speaker 2: back for another edition of the Thursday night Football Showdown
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- 0:50Speaker 2: Got my guys with me as always, Hoopster title gonna
- 0:53Speaker 2: break down all things for Bengals at the Ravens the
- 0:56Speaker 2: second of an AFC North Division battle, So we'll talk
- 0:58Speaker 2: about that. I love this slate, so I'll give you
- 1:00Speaker 2: the details right off the top. I'll break it down more.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Everyone knows from over at Triper Nation in the discord
- 1:05Speaker 2: this morning, I've been up early. It's week ten. We
- 1:07Speaker 2: got to get to work now. We're into the double digits.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I've been close, but not been able to close. That's
- 1:12Speaker 2: the English language for you. The same word looks the
- 1:15Speaker 2: same on paper, certainly not the same thing in the
- 1:17Speaker 2: bank account. So nobody cares. Work harder. We move on, Hoopster.
- 1:20Speaker 2: I'll bring you in fun game tonight. I'm excited for
- 1:23Speaker 2: this one. What's going on?
- 1:23Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, it should be a good one. I mean
- 1:25Speaker 3: a lot of times he's you know, one off Thursday
- 1:28Speaker 3: night football games are not all that appealing. They make
- 1:30Speaker 3: sure everyone gets a Thursday night game. So we've had
- 1:33Speaker 3: a lot of you know, not super appealing from entertainment standpoint.
- 1:37Speaker 3: This is good from an entertainment standpoint and a DFS standpoint.
- 1:40Speaker 3: I mean a lot of potential plays here, a lot
- 1:44Speaker 3: of guys that could you go off and be the
- 1:46Speaker 3: guy that you need in Captain. I think there're just
- 1:48Speaker 3: like six guys that you look at their names and
- 1:50Speaker 3: it's very difficult to not want to play them in
- 1:53Speaker 3: Captain and they're probably getting most ownership. But on the
- 1:56Speaker 3: other hand, it could be one of those slates where
- 1:58Speaker 3: you get like five guys that are between like eighteen
- 2:01Speaker 3: and twenty two and you need them, and then a
- 2:03Speaker 3: chief captain is necessary as well. So I think that's
- 2:06Speaker 3: in play today as well. Again, you know, my process is,
- 2:10Speaker 3: you know, pretty straightforward, like I do this show with
- 2:13Speaker 3: you guys. You know, I'll look in the morning, I
- 2:14Speaker 3: do the show with you guys, and then I go
- 2:16Speaker 3: and start really digging in doing my content and building
- 2:20Speaker 3: my team. So again, we talked about it all the time,
- 2:23Speaker 3: but I love this because a lot of times what
- 2:26Speaker 3: I come in thinking changes, just having these conversations with
- 2:30Speaker 3: you guys, interacting with the chat, getting some good questions
- 2:33Speaker 3: from the chat, and a lot of you know, good
- 2:34Speaker 3: nuggets as the show goes on. So definitely very excited
- 2:37Speaker 3: to talk this one with you guys. So let's let's
- 2:40Speaker 3: get a goner.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll title, I'll bring you into just a sex
- 2:43Speaker 2: some good folks here in the chat. You talked about
- 2:46Speaker 2: our hoops, some good comments, some things that you pick up.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Show up to all these people. I'm popping up on
- 2:49Speaker 2: the screen. And then justin Teeter, we appreciate you, says
- 2:52Speaker 2: just discovered this week and have been beyond impressed and
- 2:54Speaker 2: how much better it is than other DFS sides, justin
- 2:57Speaker 2: let us know, just give us some feedback, maybe if
- 2:59Speaker 2: we were wild to let us know sort of what
- 3:01Speaker 2: you like that's different from some of the other sites
- 3:03Speaker 2: that you watch. I'm always curious to know. Get the feedback.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Title bring you in, man. I don't know if you
- 3:07Speaker 2: think the same as me, but I really like this
- 3:09Speaker 2: slate tonight. I'm excited for this one.
- 3:11Speaker 4: Oh, I'm with you for sure.
- 3:12Speaker 5: I mean a lot of injuries like that are kind
- 3:15Speaker 5: of important both tight ends likely and Eric all both out.
- 3:19Speaker 5: So a lot of cheap pieces that are viable, guys
- 3:22Speaker 5: like Khalil Herbert Deontay Johnson, a lot of roles that
- 3:26Speaker 5: are unknown. And then I mean it's the biggest toll
- 3:29Speaker 5: on the slate, which is awesome to start it off.
- 3:31Speaker 5: Rarely do we get that on Thursday Division game two
- 3:34Speaker 5: great teams like who thinks his Lions have looked the
- 3:37Speaker 5: best so far? It's hard to argue that, But I
- 3:39Speaker 5: think you're Ravens man. I know the Chiefs are undefeated,
- 3:42Speaker 5: but man Lamar looks good and they just keep getting better.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Being able to run it down the throat. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 3:48Speaker 3: I mean I get it, the Ravens are good. But
- 3:50Speaker 3: like again, the same thing I say. You know, the
- 3:52Speaker 3: end result in Dan Tampa.
- 3:53Speaker 5: Battery, different dere brings, a different element, don't matter. Givee
- 3:59Speaker 5: Lamar too, skinny Lamars.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Mr Jackson's Lamar. Jackson's their quarterback. You know what the
- 4:04Speaker 3: end result is?
- 4:05Speaker 5: All right? Last time with Miller and rakeem how about
- 4:10Speaker 5: who gets farther? Ravens are Lions a little bet?
- 4:13Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, I'll take that one. Yeah, let's let's
- 4:15Speaker 3: put put some money behind that one. You want to
- 4:17Speaker 3: do a friendly just a friendly wager or something something,
- 4:21Speaker 3: you want to do something real. Yeah, we can do five,
- 4:24Speaker 3: all right, who gets further? Yeah, I'll uh yeah, we'll
- 4:26Speaker 3: do five, but five.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Right there we go. That's actually a good one. That's
- 4:30Speaker 2: why I perked up for that one. I know Hoops
- 4:32Speaker 2: are would like that. He's definitely gonna defend it as
- 4:34Speaker 2: if his guys got to the super Bowl last year
- 4:36Speaker 2: or something when they didn't get there to.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Try my ravens. We're seeing a history of the same result.
- 4:42Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. But I think it's a fun
- 4:44Speaker 2: one here. We're gonna break it all down. Shout up
- 4:45Speaker 2: to Oracle says, got the new blue ship and hoodie.
- 4:48Speaker 2: No one got it on today. We got it all
- 4:49Speaker 2: I know. Title. I think yours going to the mail
- 4:51Speaker 2: here soon. We got lots of stuff, wait to do
- 4:53Speaker 2: merchandise over on the site. Appreciate everybody for supporting. Uh
- 4:56Speaker 2: can just bet another shoey that Hoop won't ever do.
- 4:58Speaker 2: They're all over Hoops in the jet. That's the best
- 5:01Speaker 2: part to kick it off.
- 5:02Speaker 3: But well, hey, the shoey thing. Yeah, I'm not I'm
- 5:06Speaker 3: not accomplishing. But one thing I will say, if you
- 5:08Speaker 3: bet with me, I pay very quickly. And anyone can
- 5:11Speaker 3: anyone can attest to that I'm not I'm not sowing.
- 5:13Speaker 3: When money's on the line, that's handled very quickly.
- 5:16Speaker 2: He just doesn't want to drink a beer. It's bad
- 5:18Speaker 2: for I always kick it to you guys first. For
- 5:24Speaker 2: the grand scheme overview, I'm gonna start with mine because
- 5:26Speaker 2: obviously I told you I'm very excited for this one
- 5:28Speaker 2: entitled you hinted at it a little bit. Obviously we
- 5:30Speaker 2: have some injuries that make it better for that perspective,
- 5:33Speaker 2: But like Michael Pepe is popping in the chat with it,
- 5:36Speaker 2: the other thing is we got a lot of captain options,
- 5:38Speaker 2: and that's what I like. It's actually not about like
- 5:39Speaker 2: people always think, it's the diamond and the roughs on
- 5:41Speaker 2: the slate and oh I get to play all these
- 5:43Speaker 2: different punt plays and the polar colar bear and all
- 5:46Speaker 2: this other stuff they're gonna do. And I get it,
- 5:48Speaker 2: those guys will talk about them, they'll be in play.
- 5:50Speaker 2: But the biggest thing is more when there's a captain
- 5:52Speaker 2: separation like this, Lamar, there's so much value that Lamar
- 5:56Speaker 2: is definitely gonna be played. But some people still want Chase,
- 6:00Speaker 2: some people still want King Henry scoring multiple touch. I
- 6:02Speaker 2: think he's minus three hundred to score one tonight, big
- 6:05Speaker 2: fave even to score two. So there's that you got
- 6:07Speaker 2: a little bit of tight end ownership, soaking up captains
- 6:10Speaker 2: with Mark Andrews with no likely, Kaseki with no all.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Even though Hudson and Sample and guys like that, we're
- 6:16Speaker 2: still getting in the mixed last game. But it's just
- 6:18Speaker 2: getting thrown around Jamar, Chase, Chase Brown, all those guys.
- 6:21Speaker 2: That makes for a better slate in my eyes. The
- 6:24Speaker 2: other couple of things for me and then title, I'm
- 6:26Speaker 2: gonna go to you for your grand scheme overview. But
- 6:28Speaker 2: the other two things for me are second of a
- 6:30Speaker 2: division game. I know it's fifty to fifty, I get it,
- 6:33Speaker 2: And I know the sample size means nothing. It's something
- 6:34Speaker 2: that we do have a long history on because everybody
- 6:36Speaker 2: plays everybody twice for many seasons now. But there's the
- 6:39Speaker 2: setup of like this is a huge total, big boy total.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Two defenses that aren't super strong, but you never know, man,
- 6:45Speaker 2: Like I say, sometimes these defenses just show up at
- 6:48Speaker 2: home in these spots because of that, it's such a
- 6:50Speaker 2: battle between and how important this game means for a
- 6:53Speaker 2: team like the Ravens who can't figure it out against
- 6:55Speaker 2: the Browns when needed. Things like that, those games are
- 6:57Speaker 2: costly later on. So I mean that's good for building
- 7:00Speaker 2: in sets. Title I'll kick at do you other stuff?
- 7:02Speaker 2: Maybe I'll come up with, But I love to say,
- 7:04Speaker 2: what do you think? What's your first sons?
- 7:06Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 7:06Speaker 5: No, everything you said. I think the captain call is
- 7:09Speaker 5: probably the most important. If we're looking at the stone
- 7:12Speaker 5: right now, the highest owned captain we have twenty percent Lamar,
- 7:16Speaker 5: Chase Brown's ten, Chase Eleven's a nine, Henry thirteen.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Like that's really really spread out and things you love
- 7:22Speaker 4: to see.
- 7:23Speaker 5: And what I know is I'm gonna jam a good
- 7:25Speaker 5: amount of Lamar a captain, like twenty percent. And again,
- 7:28Speaker 5: already I just thought that said the Ravens I thought
- 7:30Speaker 5: looked the best so far in the NFL six point favorites.
- 7:33Speaker 4: I'm gonna be going more Ravens heavy stuff.
- 7:36Speaker 3: But I don't even.
- 7:37Speaker 4: Mind stuff like what's awesome is both sides.
- 7:39Speaker 5: You can go one fives with the one being captain
- 7:43Speaker 5: or two fours with the one like two being captain
- 7:45Speaker 5: because you have clear guys like a Chase Brown, as
- 7:47Speaker 5: we saw last week, a Jamar Chase, a Derrick Henry
- 7:50Speaker 5: is Zay Flowers, guys that can completely nuke it but
- 7:53Speaker 5: carry their team pretty much the whole way where then
- 7:56Speaker 5: they do almost everything and then you get more on
- 7:58Speaker 5: the other side. But usually the two fours captain's up
- 8:01Speaker 5: top are more contrarian. So also love Lamar slates. You
- 8:05Speaker 5: don't need to pair him with anything. You can also
- 8:07Speaker 5: pair him with three pass catchers. So playing him at captain.
- 8:10Speaker 5: We talk about it a lot with Josh Allen. So
- 8:12Speaker 5: many ways to do it. So you always say it,
- 8:15Speaker 5: and I like it. You trust yourself, even if I
- 8:17Speaker 5: play twenty percent he was twenty percent. I trust myself
- 8:19Speaker 5: to build better lineups less stuped. Other people will have
- 8:23Speaker 5: lineups that are duped three hundred times. That's a bad
- 8:26Speaker 5: line up in my opinion. I'll build better ones. But
- 8:29Speaker 5: I still think I'm gonna get overweight Lamar. But yeah,
- 8:31Speaker 5: everything you said, and fact of Lamar's legs and the
- 8:34Speaker 5: combination of you can do a lot of things with
- 8:36Speaker 5: him at captain is something I'm gonna be leaning into.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing too, is just so you know,
- 8:41Speaker 2: the second part you said there is like even if
- 8:42Speaker 2: he does get steamed up, I always feel fine with that.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Like I'm actually if I'm underweight on him, but I
- 8:46Speaker 2: know how I build. I can sometimes feel better about
- 8:48Speaker 2: that too. Who what's your first thoughts? Just sort of
- 8:50Speaker 2: grand scheme overview before we get into these captains, because
- 8:53Speaker 2: there's a bunch of them to talk about. But how
- 8:54Speaker 2: are you thinking about this slate? Just going in? What's
- 8:56Speaker 2: your first thoughts?
- 8:58Speaker 3: Yeah? So much as in play guys talked about, and
- 9:00Speaker 3: I think that's what makes it fun in dynamic, Like
- 9:03Speaker 3: there's so many different things you can do talk about
- 9:05Speaker 3: like naked Lamar actually kind of prefer pairing him, but
- 9:09Speaker 3: you know, we'll talk about that when we get to
- 9:10Speaker 3: the quarterback stuff. You can do that, but all these
- 9:15Speaker 3: high end guys are clearly implay at captain. It be
- 9:18Speaker 3: tough to to if you are someone that likes to
- 9:20Speaker 3: fade and make stands, it's gonna be hard to get
- 9:23Speaker 3: away from these six main guys in the captain spot.
- 9:26Speaker 3: So that's definitely one talking point. But like I said
- 9:29Speaker 3: in the opening, like this is a slate where you
- 9:31Speaker 3: could see five guys get to that eighteen to twenty
- 9:36Speaker 3: five fantasy point performance where you need them, and then
- 9:39Speaker 3: like a cheaper captain comes into play, maybe like I
- 9:42Speaker 3: don't know Andrews or Bateman or Yoshi. I mean, we'll
- 9:45Speaker 3: talk about all these guys as we go on. So
- 9:49Speaker 3: I am probably more interested in cheap captains today than
- 9:53Speaker 3: I typically am for that reason because if you do
- 9:56Speaker 3: which I'm gonna obviously have a lot of lamar up
- 9:58Speaker 3: there in jamar Cha, but you are sacrificing a lot
- 10:02Speaker 3: of shares of the other guys that aren't in those lineups.
- 10:06Speaker 3: I mean, So introducing some cheaper captains I think keeps
- 10:09Speaker 3: your exposure where it needs to be in the flex
- 10:12Speaker 3: as well. So it's a dynamic slate, a lot of fun,
- 10:15Speaker 3: a lot of different ways to go about it. We
- 10:17Speaker 3: taught you know, you guys touched on some five one builds.
- 10:21Speaker 3: It's it's wide open. We got a big total. I mean,
- 10:23Speaker 3: the Ravens are projected to score like twenty nine points
- 10:25Speaker 3: and we have the Bengals you know, twenty three twenty
- 10:28Speaker 3: four range. That's those are big boy numbers and it
- 10:31Speaker 3: should be a fun, appealing one tonight, so looking forward
- 10:33Speaker 3: to to diving in.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing too, just you mentioned another point
- 10:36Speaker 2: there is like the cheaper captains. That's that's the other thing.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I mean, if it's a low scoring slate, I think
- 10:42Speaker 2: it's actually still one of the big names. If it's
- 10:44Speaker 2: a high scoring slate, I still think it's one of
- 10:46Speaker 2: the big names. And that's kind of how it sets
- 10:48Speaker 2: up here.
- 10:48Speaker 3: So you don't have so you don't have as much
- 10:51Speaker 3: interest as it stands now in the cheaper stuff.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Not for me really right now, and again that could
- 10:56Speaker 2: bite me, but I just I'm okay with it. I
- 10:58Speaker 2: think it's better to have like a Lamar, Henry Burrow,
- 11:01Speaker 2: Chase somebody like that up there. I guess you could
- 11:03Speaker 2: get away with. You know, Mark Andrews is going to
- 11:06Speaker 2: be in such a good spot here, but that's it's
- 11:08Speaker 2: not he's coming in super low own. He's just more
- 11:10Speaker 2: than more than easy enough to get leverage on him.
- 11:12Speaker 3: I just think it's not a good point, honestly. I mean,
- 11:14Speaker 3: you look at I mean, the odds have to be
- 11:16Speaker 3: extremely high of like one of these guys like nuking,
- 11:19Speaker 3: like going off tonight, like Lamar, Chase Burrow, Henry, Zay Flowers,
- 11:25Speaker 3: Chase Brown, like one of those probably does go off
- 11:29Speaker 3: and is the captain you need. So maybe reverse course
- 11:32Speaker 3: and don't play chief captain. We'll see.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I'll give another take on captain and then I'm gonna
- 11:36Speaker 2: go to you title to start us off at your
- 11:38Speaker 2: captain thoughts. But I will say three leverage captains I
- 11:42Speaker 2: love tonight. Just off the top is Derrick Henry because
- 11:44Speaker 2: no matter what, it's going to be Lamar over Henry,
- 11:46Speaker 2: Like it's just the way it is. But like I said,
- 11:48Speaker 2: in a Division game, second of the pairing, all of
- 11:50Speaker 2: that automatic how good he is even if he gets
- 11:52Speaker 2: like twelve or thirteen, I just don't see a world
- 11:55Speaker 2: where he ever gets more than Lamar because Lamar is
- 11:58Speaker 2: only three hundred bucks more and does it all and
- 11:59Speaker 2: gets the every time. So there's that. On the flip
- 12:02Speaker 2: side of Lamar is the guy that threw five touchdowns recently,
- 12:06Speaker 2: like with Joe Burrow, And yes he's missing dudes, but
- 12:08Speaker 2: he's got tons of guys that he can spread it
- 12:10Speaker 2: around to and throw those touchdowns. Who it's the worst,
- 12:12Speaker 2: one of the worst, if not the worst, pass defense.
- 12:15Speaker 2: And they picked up Tredevius White who doesn't even matter
- 12:18Speaker 2: to me, like good for him, nice name, long term, awesome.
- 12:20Speaker 2: But I don't even think he's in tonight right. I'd
- 12:22Speaker 2: have to look it up again. I don't know if
- 12:23Speaker 2: they're gonna get him into the mix right away. I'll
- 12:25Speaker 2: check that out here shortly. If anybody knows, throw it
- 12:27Speaker 2: in the chat. So I'm not concerned about that. So
- 12:29Speaker 2: he's opposite side Lamar. And then the other thing is
- 12:31Speaker 2: a guy that Lamar may just hone in on here,
- 12:34Speaker 2: and that's Zay Flowers. Nobody wants to give Zay his Flowers,
- 12:37Speaker 2: even though he's been dominating the league. It's been incredible
- 12:40Speaker 2: to watch z Flowers, even in his bad games have
- 12:42Speaker 2: been like eight for one hundred and thirty two or
- 12:44Speaker 2: something and just didn't get in the box. He's affordable.
- 12:47Speaker 2: He's fourteen to four in the captain slots. I think
- 12:49Speaker 2: we got three really good leverage captains beyond the Jamar Chase,
- 12:53Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson obvious stuff. That's just the guys that I'd
- 12:56Speaker 2: be willing to get in on and get leverage in.
- 12:57Speaker 2: But title, I'll kick it to you. Your thoughts on captain,
- 13:00Speaker 2: cheap captain, any of the stuff. I just talked about.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I think there's lots of ways to go, but I
- 13:04Speaker 2: like some of those right out of the gate.
- 13:05Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with what you and or you were
- 13:08Speaker 5: telling Hoop, and Hoop came to agree. It's seeing like
- 13:10Speaker 5: I'm not really going cheap captain. The cheapest by far
- 13:12Speaker 5: and go to is Mark Andrews. And again, if you
- 13:15Speaker 5: play Mark Andrews, you have to be leaving money on
- 13:17Speaker 5: the table playing someone low owned. He's clearly miss priced
- 13:20Speaker 5: at four point two K. But other than that, I
- 13:23Speaker 5: think the cheapest I might Nixon, and that's if I'm
- 13:25Speaker 5: playing a good amount of lineups is Rashad Bateman, and
- 13:28Speaker 5: again that's a lot of lineups, he's gonna be very
- 13:30Speaker 5: low owned. Talking about leverage that leverages Zay Flowers stuff,
- 13:34Speaker 5: Henry's stuff like Lamar to an extent, obviously they go together,
- 13:38Speaker 5: but my favorite captain's by far. Lamar, for the things
- 13:41Speaker 5: I said is upside is unmatched. You can do so
- 13:45Speaker 5: many things with them at captain. Playing with three pass catchers,
- 13:47Speaker 5: there's enough cheap ones were like a Charlie Kohler, he
- 13:51Speaker 5: get just three for thirty that could be on the
- 13:53Speaker 5: optimal with Lamar, Andrews, what really cheap et cetera. My
- 13:57Speaker 5: second favorite Zay Flowers, I think, I mean, I'm on
- 14:00Speaker 5: the Ravens and he just been so so good this year.
- 14:03Speaker 5: This Bengals defense isn't any good. There's really nothing bad
- 14:08Speaker 5: to say about day at nine point six K. And
- 14:10Speaker 5: you'd also get like twelve hundred savings off of Chase,
- 14:13Speaker 5: you get sixteen off of Henry Burrows even eight hundred more.
- 14:17Speaker 5: So he's in a solid price range. My third favorites,
- 14:20Speaker 5: and I've been going back and forth. It's either Chase
- 14:22Speaker 5: or Chase Brown. The thing with Chase Brown is Zach
- 14:24Speaker 5: Moss is gonna be out for the regular season. Khalil
- 14:27Speaker 5: Herbert was brought in this week. I do expect him
- 14:29Speaker 5: to play, but like how much does he play?
- 14:31Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
- 14:32Speaker 5: Joe Burrow can really just tell him anything he wants
- 14:34Speaker 5: to do. But Zach Moss played ninety percent of snaps
- 14:37Speaker 5: last week or eighty percent. Looked really good and in
- 14:40Speaker 5: any game script is what I like about him. Explosive
- 14:42Speaker 5: out of the backfield, can catch passes, it doesn't matter
- 14:45Speaker 5: if they're trailing or ahead. And man, this workload at
- 14:48Speaker 5: nine K and I think he's actually a good running back.
- 14:50Speaker 5: Leaves me a lot of interest in him. The thing,
- 14:54Speaker 5: I do think I like Chase more than Henry. I'm
- 14:56Speaker 5: gonna play a little Henry, but I like Lamar a
- 14:59Speaker 5: lot more. I think I like Chase for four hundred less. So, man,
- 15:02Speaker 5: is it scary fading or being underweight on a minus
- 15:05Speaker 5: two sixty five touchdown prop and with how good Dereck
- 15:08Speaker 5: Henry's been.
- 15:09Speaker 4: But I like Lamar Moore and I think they like
- 15:11Speaker 4: Chase Moore.
- 15:11Speaker 5: But I will say both of them are projected higher
- 15:14Speaker 5: than Derrick Henry, so that'll be a popular take. Henry
- 15:17Speaker 5: will still get ownership as he always does. But yeah,
- 15:20Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go more Lamar Chase. The last one
- 15:22Speaker 5: I'm gonna mention Andrews. Giseki stuff is interesting. I don't
- 15:27Speaker 5: know Gaseeki stuff. I'll throw back to you, Tambo. He
- 15:29Speaker 5: got there obviously. He's actually a good tight end slash
- 15:33Speaker 5: wide receiver is how I look at him. But the
- 15:35Speaker 5: snapshare still was not great. He only played thirty six percent.
- 15:38Speaker 5: Eric all is out, but it was Drew sample for
- 15:40Speaker 5: the most part. They mix in Hudson like Burton will
- 15:43Speaker 5: be back this week and they went irwin, so maybe
- 15:46Speaker 5: they go eleven personnel a little more.
- 15:47Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 15:48Speaker 4: Do you have a Leni Giseki tight end captain?
- 15:50Speaker 2: He's almost ten k. He's almost ten k, so I
- 15:52Speaker 2: don't even I think the whole field knows what they're
- 15:54Speaker 2: doing with him, and I don't think they'renywhere near him.
- 15:55Speaker 2: I think he might be four or five percent, Like
- 15:58Speaker 2: I mean, you could look at that.
- 15:59Speaker 4: Dive like, are you going to play any of that?
- 16:01Speaker 3: Are you just zero?
- 16:02Speaker 2: I don't know. Like when I build my stuff, it'll
- 16:04Speaker 2: be up on the sleigh plant. I didn't build anything yet.
- 16:06Speaker 2: I'm just saying I can't imagine. It's gonna be very
- 16:07Speaker 2: hard to get to a ten thousand dollars gasiki. He
- 16:10Speaker 2: has to almost it either has to be a super
- 16:12Speaker 2: low scoring game or he has to almost do what
- 16:15Speaker 2: he did last game, which I'm just not chasing that
- 16:17Speaker 2: they literally involved everyone you talked about. I like him
- 16:19Speaker 2: in the flex. I think he's very fair sixty six hundred.
- 16:22Speaker 2: You can make cases for that, but man, it's pretty
- 16:25Speaker 2: tough to get to him up top, and I think
- 16:27Speaker 2: everybody knows that, so you'd be able to get lower
- 16:30Speaker 2: ownership on him up there, but you could also argue
- 16:32Speaker 2: that it's probably more than he should be. Like we
- 16:33Speaker 2: have him as optimal captain four point seven percent of
- 16:36Speaker 2: the time, we've got him owned a round five, it's
- 16:38Speaker 2: about even for even, But I just I like way
- 16:41Speaker 2: more dudes. I also don't think many people are gonna
- 16:43Speaker 2: get to your Chase Brown one. Just of note, I
- 16:46Speaker 2: just don't think many people can get there. We'll see
- 16:48Speaker 2: how the ownership actually shakes out when we get closer
- 16:50Speaker 2: to Locke, but how do they get there? Like Burrow Chase,
- 16:54Speaker 2: some are playing GASICKI Like, we just talked about the
- 16:56Speaker 2: other side's Lamar, Henry Zy Andrew's maybe guys after that.
- 17:01Speaker 2: I just don't even see how Chase Brown gets as
- 17:03Speaker 2: much ownership. So sure he's a he's a leverage play
- 17:05Speaker 2: as well, but he's almost fourteen k in a very
- 17:08Speaker 2: tough matchup and you can play him in any script.
- 17:10Speaker 2: But yeah, that'll be unique for sure if you go
- 17:12Speaker 2: that way. Did you have something else their title?
- 17:13Speaker 3: Sorry?
- 17:13Speaker 2: I just yeah, I don't see it.
- 17:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just what's interesting with Kaseki.
- 17:17Speaker 3: I think it was.
- 17:18Speaker 5: Lastly we talked about too the next highest price after
- 17:20Speaker 5: Gaseki is Chase Brown at nine k that's twenty four
- 17:23Speaker 5: hundred bucks for talking right below that. Batman is eight
- 17:27Speaker 5: hundred less, and then you get like kickers and defense
- 17:29Speaker 5: and all that. So it's just a really interesting range
- 17:32Speaker 5: where like no one's gonna fall in it, and maybe
- 17:35Speaker 5: I will. In fifty teams, I play six percent Baitman,
- 17:38Speaker 5: six percent Kaseki.
- 17:40Speaker 4: Very few are going in that range.
- 17:41Speaker 5: Everyone's going up er maybe andrews Moore and both the
- 17:44Speaker 5: guys are gonna be.
- 17:44Speaker 4: On the field.
- 17:45Speaker 5: They have upsides we've seen. So that's a really interesting
- 17:47Speaker 5: thing that I noticed with pricing. That's all I got.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Yeah, who did you you want to add on to
- 17:51Speaker 2: any of that stuff? Do you have a Gaseki thought
- 17:54Speaker 2: there too?
- 17:54Speaker 3: Or it just feels like chasing a little bit. I
- 17:58Speaker 3: don't know. I mean he went off obviously last week,
- 18:00Speaker 3: and I mean it was like the one touchdown, it
- 18:02Speaker 3: seemed like a I don't know, it seemed like a
- 18:03Speaker 3: broken play type thing where he's wide open and walked it,
- 18:06Speaker 3: walked it in for like fifty sixty yards, Like I
- 18:09Speaker 3: just don't see that happening tonight. If I if I'm
- 18:13Speaker 3: playing like a cheap captain up there or cheaper captain.
- 18:17Speaker 3: I'd probably just go to Andrews just because i've kind
- 18:20Speaker 3: of I've been playing him for the last like three weeks,
- 18:22Speaker 3: kind of like what I've seen out of him, or
- 18:23Speaker 3: even I don't mind like the Bateman call probably over Jesseki,
- 18:28Speaker 3: but just you guys talking about those dudes up top,
- 18:31Speaker 3: I think Zay Flowers has to has to get squeezed
- 18:34Speaker 3: like a little bit, and he's one that I really
- 18:35Speaker 3: want to be on. I mean, he's truly benefiting from
- 18:38Speaker 3: this Derreck Henry situation. I mean again, we talk about
- 18:41Speaker 3: these guys that are like wide open, like he's getting
- 18:44Speaker 3: the deep stuff's he gets the stuff behind the line
- 18:47Speaker 3: of scrimmage. They'll do end a rounds with him, like
- 18:49Speaker 3: he's clearly benefiting big time from like the Lamar Jackson
- 18:54Speaker 3: Derrick Henry won two punch and I think that can
- 18:57Speaker 3: absolutely continue tonight. So I really like him. And you
- 19:01Speaker 3: know the price tag, it's ninety six hundred, Like he's pop.
- 19:04Speaker 3: People view him as like a mid tier probably like
- 19:07Speaker 3: wide receiver on these full slates. Well now he's priced
- 19:09Speaker 3: up there with all the big dogs on the slate,
- 19:12Speaker 3: and I think he has gets squeezed a little bit,
- 19:14Speaker 3: so very interested in him up top in the Captain spot.
- 19:19Speaker 2: So I mean Tucker, what you.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Need with Tucker, Like, it's the scenario that I talked
- 19:25Speaker 3: about in an opening where Lamar, Jamar Ches Burrow, Henry
- 19:29Speaker 3: Flowers Brown, none of them go over thirty. They all stay,
- 19:32Speaker 3: you know, twenty five and below, and then Tucker goes
- 19:35Speaker 3: out and gets like, you know, fifteen to eighteen fantasy points.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Like it's worked before. I mean, it's definitely worked on
- 19:41Speaker 3: these high scoring slates where you know, the guy that
- 19:44Speaker 3: gets like fifteen, a cheap guy that gets fifteen to eighteen,
- 19:47Speaker 3: you just need because you need those other five dudes
- 19:51Speaker 3: or four dudes whatever it may be, that get in
- 19:53Speaker 3: that range. But don't go off once we like you
- 19:56Speaker 3: kind of talked about a little bit or alluded to
- 19:58Speaker 3: in the opening, like once one of the these guys
- 20:00Speaker 3: go off, once La Margo's off or Henry or whoever
- 20:03Speaker 3: it is, once they go off, you're gonna need them
- 20:05Speaker 3: in Captain. And you know, I think that is the
- 20:08Speaker 3: biggest talking point on the slate. Do you think one
- 20:11Speaker 3: of those six go off? If you think one of
- 20:13Speaker 3: those six go off. You should not be playing any
- 20:16Speaker 3: other captains. You shouldn't be playing the chief captains. And
- 20:19Speaker 3: after talking back and forth with you, I think that
- 20:22Speaker 3: just might be the case on this sledge. Just seems
- 20:24Speaker 3: very likely that one of these dudes just goes off
- 20:26Speaker 3: for at least thirty some fantasy points.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think this is pretty likely. It's just,
- 20:31Speaker 2: you know, anything could happen. It's this game, and obviously
- 20:33Speaker 2: they'll get opportunities because of the injuries. I'm not saying that,
- 20:36Speaker 2: but I mean, the other thing I was gonna say
- 20:37Speaker 2: is he's eighteen hundred dollars more at captain to play
- 20:41Speaker 2: Tucker than Mark Andrews. Like Mark Andrews. Here is a
- 20:44Speaker 2: great spot by the way Bengals will get lit up
- 20:46Speaker 2: by tight ends all season, especially the week they played
- 20:49Speaker 2: the Ravens the first time. It was likely going off
- 20:51Speaker 2: and other dudes that were involved there, even the Polar
- 20:54Speaker 2: Bear Cole or Charlie Cole, he got to catch and
- 20:57Speaker 2: I think three catches for fifty or something. It was
- 20:59Speaker 2: like so and then other teams recently, even some of
- 21:01Speaker 2: the smaller outputs still included fifty yards and a touchdown.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Like they can get crushed there. So it is pretty crazy.
- 21:06Speaker 2: But obviously that setup would be you need to play
- 21:09Speaker 2: for you know that type of game, right, you're just
- 21:12Speaker 2: telling yourself that story building your lineup around it. I'm
- 21:15Speaker 2: not if I'm using Tucker, it's not because it fits
- 21:18Speaker 2: me a bunch of stuff. He's eighty one hundred. It's
- 21:19Speaker 2: more of I see, I'm building those lineups to go
- 21:23Speaker 2: that way. So I think you got to think of
- 21:24Speaker 2: that as well when you're talking about it. There so cool,
- 21:28Speaker 2: anything else who from you? If not, you can talk
- 21:30Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks. I don't have much else up at
- 21:32Speaker 2: the captain, but I think we hit it pretty good.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Quarterbacks for Burrow Burrow, Tamba.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Burrow for sure. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't
- 21:39Speaker 2: know why people wouldn't. It's literally perfect leverage. It's he's
- 21:42Speaker 2: gonna be he could be half the ownership of Lamar
- 21:44Speaker 2: Jackson and he has the best matchup. He's been pretty
- 21:47Speaker 2: solid and he's even though it's more it's it's actually
- 21:50Speaker 2: more condensed, but there's the ability to spread it out more.
- 21:53Speaker 2: And if he does that, I mean he could certainly
- 21:55Speaker 2: put up thirty five and then thirty to thirty five
- 21:57Speaker 2: DK points as possible if it's a high scoring and
- 22:00Speaker 2: then you get the one and a half x up top.
- 22:02Speaker 2: He's fifteen to six versus Lamar seventeen to one. Pair
- 22:06Speaker 2: him up. Tons of different ways to play him too.
- 22:08Speaker 2: By the way, I should note that, actually, good, good,
- 22:10Speaker 2: you brought it up. You can play Burrow with no
- 22:12Speaker 2: Chase as well. That's another thing. If you're saying it's
- 22:14Speaker 2: not Chase up top. Most people that go Burrow and
- 22:17Speaker 2: captain it's almost like building main site lineups. People start
- 22:20Speaker 2: with their quarterback, build out their stack, get their run back.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying this case
- 22:25Speaker 2: is the same way anybody who's handbuilding is gonna put Burrow,
- 22:30Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and then figure out the pieces they can
- 22:32Speaker 2: fit in. Well, if you think it's gonna be high
- 22:34Speaker 2: scoring and it's not gonna be Jamar Chase, that does it.
- 22:36Speaker 2: There's still plenty of outcomes that that happens. He throws
- 22:39Speaker 2: one touchdown eighty yards and you still need Jamar Chase.
- 22:42Speaker 2: But I'm saying there's fun with that build. You could
- 22:44Speaker 2: have a Joe Burrow with a Gasiki, you know, Yoshi
- 22:48Speaker 2: vas and Chase Brown or something and just have them
- 22:50Speaker 2: scoring a bunch. Burrow does more than Chase Brown Jamar,
- 22:53Speaker 2: Chase doesn't, and you still have money to fit good
- 22:56Speaker 2: Ravens on the other sides. I actually think that's a
- 22:58Speaker 2: great play. Tonight mentioned it off the top. He's one
- 23:00Speaker 2: of those three. Really it's four leverage captains because it's Burrow,
- 23:05Speaker 2: it's Henry. I guess it's three for sure. But Zay
- 23:08Speaker 2: Flowers fits into that mix as well because he's another
- 23:10Speaker 2: guy that's opposite to Chase, not Lamar, a guy Lamar
- 23:13Speaker 2: would throw to all of that combined. So that's all
- 23:16Speaker 2: I got.
- 23:17Speaker 3: I think we got one question on that, just on
- 23:19Speaker 3: the captain stuff. Just curious, do you guys think, like,
- 23:22Speaker 3: just looking at this and everyone's going to look at
- 23:24Speaker 3: the projections and see that there's a clear top tier
- 23:27Speaker 3: of projected guys, Like there's six guys that are the
- 23:30Speaker 3: projected to score more than everyone else. Do you think
- 23:32Speaker 3: there's a chance that when people go in and build
- 23:34Speaker 3: that it just gets spread out, maybe all these guys
- 23:37Speaker 3: get like twelve to eighteen percent. Do you think that's
- 23:39Speaker 3: viable possible?
- 23:42Speaker 5: I think Burrow would probably be like the seven to
- 23:44Speaker 5: eight range. Lamar probably low twenties. Then I think you
- 23:49Speaker 5: get the Chase Henry's.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Ace, Chase Brown the rest kind of falling between what
- 23:53Speaker 4: you're saying.
- 23:53Speaker 5: Yeah, because quarterbacks people always are hesitant for just like
- 23:57Speaker 5: I mean, maybe I'm just speaking for myself what it
- 23:59Speaker 5: feels like not rushing quarterbacks.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Mainly you don't look at Burrow as a rusher.
- 24:03Speaker 5: And then everyone loves Lamar obviously for the reasons that
- 24:06Speaker 5: he's priced close enough to Henry Chase and projected more.
- 24:10Speaker 5: I think it's probably like that those four with Lamar
- 24:12Speaker 5: and Burrow low.
- 24:14Speaker 3: Twenties, high teens. Yeah, well, I think I've fully talked
- 24:17Speaker 3: myself out of the cheaper captain stuff, to be honest,
- 24:20Speaker 3: after having these conversations. But you know, maybe maybe Mark Andrews,
- 24:24Speaker 3: because I mean, I think he has multiple touchdown upside.
- 24:27Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen it and it hasn't been great
- 24:30Speaker 3: for him, but he is, he is getting he is
- 24:33Speaker 3: converting all his targets into receptions. So let me just
- 24:36Speaker 3: fix this. So there we go, all right. In terms
- 24:38Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks, that was an initial question. Yeah, I mean,
- 24:42Speaker 3: just as much of these guys as possible, like in
- 24:45Speaker 3: the flex for sure, very high floors. I mean, that's
- 24:49Speaker 3: definitely what you want, and you know it's gonna be
- 24:53Speaker 3: as much as possible. And some of those other guys
- 24:55Speaker 3: actually prefer more in the captain spot that we'll get to,
- 24:58Speaker 3: like Jamar Chase and Flowers probably prefer them more in
- 25:02Speaker 3: the captain slot a post to like the flex. Obviously
- 25:04Speaker 3: going to play them in flex as well, but these
- 25:06Speaker 3: quarterbacks just very solid captain options like we talked about,
- 25:11Speaker 3: and then flex options as well.
- 25:13Speaker 2: We're shipping tonight. Look at this dry run fixed it
- 25:16Speaker 2: properly everything. There's no chance it wants to give forty
- 25:19Speaker 2: four percent Lamar and twenty five percent Mark Andrews, ten percent,
- 25:23Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and then nothing. No Burrow, no Henry, no
- 25:27Speaker 2: Chase Brown, no Bateman, No, I mean two percent, I'm
- 25:30Speaker 2: calling it no, But I mean that's no, that's that's nothing.
- 25:33Speaker 2: These are all amazing captain place Zay, Henry, Burrow and
- 25:38Speaker 2: then maybe even you know, Chase Brown's really tough. I
- 25:40Speaker 2: don't even know if I'll get there, but at least
- 25:41Speaker 2: Title brought it up so we can can lean on that.
- 25:43Speaker 2: If you're right, good good for you. Title. I won't
- 25:46Speaker 2: get there as much, but I think it was a
- 25:48Speaker 2: good point that you brought up. It's like games minus.
- 25:50Speaker 4: One fifteen to score too, Like that's a pretty surprising number.
- 25:54Speaker 2: For two are to score as well, just to score
- 25:58Speaker 2: got you, got you, got you. I was like, damn,
- 25:59Speaker 2: that's been ringing good.
- 26:00Speaker 3: If that's insane?
- 26:02Speaker 2: More, what is Derreck Henry to score too?
- 26:04Speaker 4: Minus?
- 26:05Speaker 3: Oh? To score two? Where do you get that on
- 26:08Speaker 3: the two?
- 26:09Speaker 2: We can look it up after but I don't know
- 26:10Speaker 2: who do you see.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Any three plus? The heck's two plus exactly Andrews.
- 26:15Speaker 2: By the way, Hoop, Yoshi vas this is your thing here, Hoop.
- 26:18Speaker 2: This is where you play off it, right?
- 26:20Speaker 3: You just I mean, I don't know if I would
- 26:23Speaker 3: play like sixty percent like I would, I think I
- 26:26Speaker 3: would make I wouldn't play him at sixty. There's no
- 26:29Speaker 3: way I play him at sixty. And he's a per
- 26:31Speaker 3: I mean he again, I know we talked about this
- 26:33Speaker 3: a lot. I think it's important. But he's a perfect
- 26:35Speaker 3: guy for those Burrow captain teams. Like we've seen him
- 26:39Speaker 3: be a red zone target like we've seen him be
- 26:41Speaker 3: a multiple red zone target guy. So he's perfect for
- 26:44Speaker 3: Burrow captain teams. But no, I don't think I would
- 26:46Speaker 3: do the the sixty percent Yosivoch. I mean, you're gonna
- 26:51Speaker 3: these guys are gonna get jammed in there, for sure,
- 26:53Speaker 3: Andrews Yoshi, for sure, I would get one hundred percent.
- 26:56Speaker 3: I think, like right right now, capping him at like
- 26:59Speaker 3: something like forty, I think is viable. And I probably
- 27:02Speaker 3: cap Mark Andrews a little bit as well. And I
- 27:05Speaker 3: guess I'm kind of curious to see it. Like, so
- 27:07Speaker 3: Mark Andrews, if you capped him, was he coming in?
- 27:10Speaker 3: Just captain cap mat fifty and just see what happens
- 27:12Speaker 3: when you read run it probably gonna start to see
- 27:15Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. Is Lamar Jackson's captain ownership is gonna
- 27:18Speaker 3: come down a little bit, and then you're gonna start
- 27:20Speaker 3: to see some of those other guys trickle in there.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Probably Burrow goes up, Chase Brown goes up, maybe even
- 27:26Speaker 3: like Zay Flowers comes up a little bit too. It
- 27:28Speaker 3: wouldn't be my guest, But yeah, I don't think I
- 27:30Speaker 3: would just run the sixty Yoshi. That's that's a little
- 27:33Speaker 3: bit too much in my preer.
- 27:34Speaker 2: That's the juju spot. And then people are talking about.
- 27:36Speaker 3: So well, yeah, so not lock hit the lock button,
- 27:38Speaker 3: and based on the based based on our track record,
- 27:41Speaker 3: that means hit the lock button.
- 27:42Speaker 2: People don't like it. I mean, this is what makes
- 27:44Speaker 2: it fun tonight. But I mean this, I mean certainly
- 27:46Speaker 2: in Showdown, it's lovely stuff right there. Yeah, maybe make
- 27:48Speaker 2: till it take to the end. But he wants to
- 27:49Speaker 2: catch look at Miller hoops boy Miller on the on
- 27:52Speaker 2: the mother time.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Baby.
- 27:54Speaker 2: It wasn't Miller time until it was literally the last
- 27:57Speaker 2: drive of the game for them and he got in
- 27:59Speaker 2: the box. So it's that's that's kind of what you're
- 28:01Speaker 2: waiting on with some of these dudes, for sure. The
- 28:03Speaker 2: other thing, you know, our guy Naids is talking about
- 28:06Speaker 2: Irwin b wand is talking about Jermaine Burton Actually is
- 28:11Speaker 2: the guy talking about the guy if you saw he
- 28:12Speaker 2: was playing the slots last weekend after he was scratched
- 28:15Speaker 2: from the game, had the same hoodie on that he
- 28:17Speaker 2: was rocking. If you watch the sideline stuff where Joe
- 28:19Speaker 2: Burrow extremely disappointed in his dude, like, come on, you
- 28:22Speaker 2: got to get your shit together. And when you don't
- 28:24Speaker 2: get to play and you get scratched after we drew
- 28:27Speaker 2: up a ton of plays for you and had a
- 28:28Speaker 2: plan to include you and involve you in the game,
- 28:31Speaker 2: and you don't show up. Don't even sit on this bench, man,
- 28:34Speaker 2: get off, get up, get back, get get over there.
- 28:36Speaker 2: And so that's what he told him. Maybe though he's
- 28:39Speaker 2: in play tonight, I'm assuming he's gonna be in for
- 28:41Speaker 2: this one. They showed him getting on the bus today.
- 28:43Speaker 2: I saw the video earlier, the everybody hopping on the bus. So, yeah,
- 28:46Speaker 2: lots of ways you can do it. But I mean
- 28:47Speaker 2: that's another thing. If you want to cap Yoshi Vas here,
- 28:51Speaker 2: you could do that, and then you could go back
- 28:53Speaker 2: to players and find some other guys that you like
- 28:58Speaker 2: down here, like Jermaine Burton, and go in and set
- 29:01Speaker 2: a minimum and say, I know I'm dropping my max
- 29:04Speaker 2: down on Yoshi Vas, but I'm gonna get Burton into
- 29:07Speaker 2: the mix. And then if you see them popping into
- 29:08Speaker 2: too many line if you're pop into a bunch of
- 29:10Speaker 2: lineups together, it's not likely, but if you did, then
- 29:13Speaker 2: you can go to player groups and separate them in here.
- 29:16Speaker 2: So I mean, this is the power of the optimizer.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Whether you're playing one lineup one hundred and fifty, obviously,
- 29:20Speaker 2: it makes your lineup your life storry a lot easier
- 29:23Speaker 2: to be able to build one hundred and fifty lineups.
- 29:25Speaker 2: But the power of the optimizer is that it doesn't
- 29:27Speaker 2: really matter. It's helpful in more ways than one. So
- 29:30Speaker 2: all right, who want to talk any more on these quarterbacks?
- 29:33Speaker 2: I think we spent a lot just talking about them
- 29:34Speaker 2: up in the Captain, but just in general otherwise, anything
- 29:37Speaker 2: else you got to mention at quarterback.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Yeah, just as much. I mean, they're definitely going to
- 29:40Speaker 3: get it as much as possible in the flocks, you know,
- 29:44Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson obviously up top Burrow up top, like we
- 29:47Speaker 3: talked about, but in the flocks, I want, you know,
- 29:50Speaker 3: as much as possible.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Money.
- 29:51Speaker 3: It could be challenging tonight, honestly, because we have so
- 29:54Speaker 3: many guys that are good plays like it might be
- 29:57Speaker 3: a challenge when you go in there and build get
- 30:00Speaker 3: a lot of these guys because they are expensive, so
- 30:02Speaker 3: it'll be interesting. But I'll make sure to get a
- 30:04Speaker 3: good chunk.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I will note this too before I kick it
- 30:06Speaker 2: the title, but just chet out our guy Derek saw earlier.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I missed the comment, but he said he had took
- 30:11Speaker 2: a little bit of time to get the kids on
- 30:12Speaker 2: their independent schedule. He's a teacher, always here to support
- 30:15Speaker 2: and we appreciate you, Derek, he said, you know it's
- 30:17Speaker 2: time to lock in with the fellas. I actually don't
- 30:20Speaker 2: even like four. I would like you know, seven, seven, six,
- 30:23Speaker 2: or you know, twelve eight and teach their own. It's
- 30:27Speaker 2: all risk vers reward. You can play one captain in
- 30:29Speaker 2: twenty if they are the winning captain and you need them.
- 30:31Speaker 2: You got lots out to the top and still what's
- 30:33Speaker 2: probably a pretty large field. If they miss, you just
- 30:36Speaker 2: move on to the next slate and say that's the
- 30:37Speaker 2: way I play. So some people do this. I like
- 30:40Speaker 2: playing a two to three. I don't really like playing
- 30:42Speaker 2: five five five five. But again, there's no set magic
- 30:45Speaker 2: number that somebody knows that hey, if you play five
- 30:48Speaker 2: four four this you actually win. It's not a magic fun.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Right, So it's a tough question, especially on a slate
- 30:54Speaker 3: like this, But there's so many like guys that you
- 30:57Speaker 3: want to play up there. So I would play with
- 31:00Speaker 3: the best way to put this, play as many as
- 31:02Speaker 3: you can where you're overweight on them, like where you're
- 31:05Speaker 3: getting above the field, where you're creating some leverage. Don't
- 31:07Speaker 3: just play all the popular ones at where the field is.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Make sure you have some leverage points and if you
- 31:13Speaker 3: have to eliminate one or two, then do it that way.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Just make sure you're getting above the field on the
- 31:19Speaker 3: main ones for.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Sure, money modge bringing the good stuff today speaking my language, yeah,
- 31:24Speaker 2: it doesn't mean shit for a one game slate for
- 31:26Speaker 2: DFS and what we're doing. So you're correct. Thank you
- 31:29Speaker 2: for bringing that in. I do appreciate that. That's certainly that.
- 31:32Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a risk tolerance question like our guy
- 31:35Speaker 2: Billy who's been throwing some good stuff in there. He
- 31:37Speaker 2: had earlier too. I will try and scroll back and
- 31:39Speaker 2: find that one. But you see, yeah, hard to get
- 31:41Speaker 2: to Chase Brown title. I know you're gonna talk quarterbacks
- 31:44Speaker 2: in the second, but you can take it right in
- 31:45Speaker 2: the running back with this hard to get to them
- 31:47Speaker 2: and Nick Chubb the best case scenario so far, and
- 31:51Speaker 2: that's recently, so maybe they're getting worse. I don't know.
- 31:53Speaker 2: That's the most they've given up, and it was when
- 31:55Speaker 2: Chase came back for his first game back. So just
- 31:58Speaker 2: title anything else you want to.
- 32:00Speaker 5: The stone shows that if you look at it, F
- 32:02Speaker 5: pass D rush DA obviously Chase Brown doesn't look great
- 32:06Speaker 5: on paper, but if you look at the price range,
- 32:08Speaker 5: he's a lot lower on than them. You get leverage
- 32:10Speaker 5: off of stuff, and again he doesn't need to get
- 32:12Speaker 5: it through the ground.
- 32:14Speaker 4: But he also is.
- 32:14Speaker 5: A type of guy that he can break a seventy
- 32:16Speaker 5: yard run like He's just that explosive workhorse.
- 32:19Speaker 4: No, Zach Moss, you talk.
- 32:21Speaker 5: About all the time. Tim like individual matchups. Oh, certain
- 32:23Speaker 5: hands on him. So one game, slate, one play changes
- 32:26Speaker 5: at all people, I think overvalue that stuff, and then
- 32:30Speaker 5: I'll take the ownership discount when I win. Give me
- 32:32Speaker 5: it once every three years, six figures. I'd be good
- 32:35Speaker 5: that way. So I'm playing Chase Brown for sure. Good
- 32:37Speaker 5: segue to running back. He has my favorite running back
- 32:40Speaker 5: at ownership. I'm probably gonna be under Henry. I know, yeah,
- 32:44Speaker 5: it's scary. I'm not saying I'm fading Henry. But I
- 32:47Speaker 5: like Lamar a lot lot more like I very well
- 32:50Speaker 5: might have one hundred percent Lamar captain flex just like
- 32:53Speaker 5: he's the guy today for me. So after that, there's
- 32:57Speaker 5: Chase Brown, cheaper Jamar, Chase Burrows, Flowers. I think I'm
- 33:01Speaker 5: gonna be playing more of them, and any Henry team,
- 33:04Speaker 5: I can drop down, I can play one of them
- 33:06Speaker 5: cut out dupes that way. Again, Henry's a great play.
- 33:09Speaker 5: Look at the game log, look at six point favorites,
- 33:12Speaker 5: big total. There's nothing bad to say it. Just if
- 33:15Speaker 5: Henry fails, Zay has a better chance of doing good.
- 33:17Speaker 5: Bateman has a better chance of doing good. Lamar, I
- 33:20Speaker 5: will be playing some Justice Hill. What if the Bengals
- 33:23Speaker 5: get up early. We saw week one Henry in game
- 33:26Speaker 5: scripts they're trailing. His playing time goes down, Hill's goes up.
- 33:29Speaker 5: That's a perfect direct leverage right there, built for Bingals
- 33:32Speaker 5: winning or at least or leading the game that way.
- 33:36Speaker 5: Bingles stuff like don't play Trayvon Williams. I think it'll
- 33:40Speaker 5: be Khalil Herbert as the backup. It's a really just
- 33:44Speaker 5: dart throw one to fifty type stuff. Who knows his role.
- 33:46Speaker 5: He was just signed this week. Chase Brown had a
- 33:49Speaker 5: great game, got most of the work. I expect that
- 33:51Speaker 5: to continue.
- 33:52Speaker 4: So just a really low own pivot from those guys
- 33:55Speaker 4: down below.
- 33:56Speaker 3: In largefield stuff.
- 33:57Speaker 4: I don't even think I can mention Keaton Mitchell will
- 34:00Speaker 4: be back today.
- 34:01Speaker 3: He is two to four.
- 34:02Speaker 5: But man like Justice Hill has been good as RB two, Like,
- 34:05Speaker 5: what kind of role is Keithon Mitchell gonna get? Maybe
- 34:07Speaker 5: a desion runner too good to see him back after
- 34:10Speaker 5: the awful knee injury.
- 34:11Speaker 4: But Chase Brown's my favorite.
- 34:13Speaker 5: Obviously, Henry's great, but I will be underweight today, And yeah.
- 34:16Speaker 4: I think that's it. I prefer receivers and tight ends
- 34:19Speaker 4: when we get there over running backs.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that breakdown. I think also to just
- 34:23Speaker 2: you know, some of the little things, like you said,
- 34:24Speaker 2: the Justice Hill wont being a key piece, Like you're man,
- 34:27Speaker 2: maybe you're setting up maybe this is the ship or you,
- 34:29Speaker 2: but you get your Chase Brown up top. He does
- 34:32Speaker 2: the work early, they get an early touchdown, they you know,
- 34:34Speaker 2: maybe the d picks up a little something. They just
- 34:36Speaker 2: stay in there tight and then get another one. And
- 34:39Speaker 2: now it's Lamar and Justice Hill on the run back.
- 34:41Speaker 2: That's the bonus title core he never knew belong to him,
- 34:44Speaker 2: Chase Brown and the Captain with Lamar and Justice Hill
- 34:48Speaker 2: in the place. There you go, all right, I like it, Hoop,
- 34:51Speaker 2: I'll go to you same question.
- 34:52Speaker 3: You know.
- 34:52Speaker 2: I thought title already broke it down pretty good at
- 34:54Speaker 2: running back. Gave some good concepts there, but theything you
- 34:56Speaker 2: want to add at the running back position.
- 34:58Speaker 3: In full action up with my boy title at the position.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Likely going to be underweight on on Derrick Henry. Unfortunately
- 35:04Speaker 3: it does not feel good, but you know, you can't
- 35:07Speaker 3: be overweight on everyone. And I just prefer like the
- 35:09Speaker 3: pass catchers and like it's still eleven to two price
- 35:13Speaker 3: tag like in the flex, like I gotta be. I
- 35:15Speaker 3: gotta be on the quarterbacks over him. So I'll be underweight,
- 35:18Speaker 3: underweight probably captain Derrick Henry and underweight flex Derrick Henry.
- 35:24Speaker 3: And it's scary as hell. I'm not going to fade them.
- 35:26Speaker 3: I'm going to play them, but I'm going to be
- 35:28Speaker 3: lower lower than the field on Derrick Henry. And then
- 35:31Speaker 3: love the Chase Brown stuff like he can get there
- 35:34Speaker 3: multiple ways. Yeah, the Ravens do have a really good
- 35:36Speaker 3: run defense as you can see here, but one play
- 35:39Speaker 3: man is all it takes. And he can catch passes too,
- 35:42Speaker 3: and I really like what I saw of him. And
- 35:44Speaker 3: then I believe last time the Ravens were on a
- 35:47Speaker 3: showed on Slater or whatever I was early in the season,
- 35:49Speaker 3: like Justice Hill was on on the optimal and again
- 35:53Speaker 3: can that, Well it happened tonight. Not likely, but it could.
- 35:56Speaker 3: Fifty two hundred his role, he can get it all
- 36:00Speaker 3: in a hurry man like one one two minute warning situation,
- 36:04Speaker 3: and he can get everything he needs, you know, right
- 36:07Speaker 3: in that short period of time. Fifty two hundred dollars
- 36:10Speaker 3: price tag not super I.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Don't know if it's one. Well that mister Justice Hill,
- 36:17Speaker 2: Yeah good, yeah, it is.
- 36:18Speaker 3: It's up there like he's above the kickers. He's above
- 36:21Speaker 3: a lot of cheap guys. That's why I do think
- 36:22Speaker 3: it's gonna be like, what are we showing for ownership here?
- 36:26Speaker 3: It's got to be lower, I'm guessing than even what
- 36:28Speaker 3: we're thinking. I would imagine that comes down. I'd imagine low,
- 36:33Speaker 3: I don't know, twelve thirteen, fourteen percent because of all
- 36:35Speaker 3: these cheap wide receivers. So yeah, you know, looking at this,
- 36:40Speaker 3: at what do we have nineteen percent? I'm not thrilled
- 36:44Speaker 3: to play Justice Hill at fifty two hundred. I just
- 36:46Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be that high of a number.
- 36:48Speaker 3: I think we get him like more twelve thirteen, and
- 36:51Speaker 3: you're right, you know it is fifty two. He probably
- 36:53Speaker 3: does need to do more than you know, one two
- 36:57Speaker 3: minute drive. So you're probably right there, so maybe not
- 36:59Speaker 3: as about Justice Hill after we're talking through it here,
- 37:02Speaker 3: but I still want to include him in my player
- 37:04Speaker 3: pool because I don't think he's gonna get you know,
- 37:05Speaker 3: close to twenty percent. But you know, Chase Brown than
- 37:09Speaker 3: Henry then Hill, you know Henry again. For me, it's
- 37:13Speaker 3: probably gonna be an underweight stance tonight. And man, it
- 37:15Speaker 3: sure as hell does not feel good.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to add a couple of things. One,
- 37:19Speaker 2: I mean, I just brought that up. I think things
- 37:20Speaker 2: can be correct and others not in the sense of
- 37:22Speaker 2: like this could be a pretty fair projection. I just think,
- 37:26Speaker 2: you know, he's almost the same price as Bateman, and
- 37:28Speaker 2: I think Bateman's ownership is correct. And I think because
- 37:31Speaker 2: of all the cheap guys we're about to get to
- 37:33Speaker 2: that we see this eighteen come down by the time
- 37:35Speaker 2: our stuff locks in closer to Locke, so it is
- 37:38Speaker 2: tougher to get to Justice Hill. That's the play if
- 37:40Speaker 2: you're going there. On how to do it on a
- 37:42Speaker 2: on a trailing game script, whatever it might be, maybe
- 37:44Speaker 2: even a quick loop up over the top from Lamar
- 37:46Speaker 2: and then he takes it in or something that's great,
- 37:48Speaker 2: But it like to Hoop's point, my point with the pricing,
- 37:51Speaker 2: it doesn't he doesn't need to do a little bit
- 37:52Speaker 2: more there. So there's that. I got a couple more
- 37:55Speaker 2: comments so before we go to wide receiver, and we'll
- 37:57Speaker 2: spend more time at wide receiver probably, But one the
- 37:59Speaker 2: two cheap dudes like Herbert got in the mix. They
- 38:03Speaker 2: got him involved in and he's up on the playbook
- 38:06Speaker 2: they said, and all that. Like, I'm not trying to
- 38:07Speaker 2: figure this out. I get it, Like I think this
- 38:09Speaker 2: is a fantastic slate. That's not even one of the
- 38:11Speaker 2: reasons because it's almost impossible to project him for a
- 38:15Speaker 2: real number that you'd have any idea about, so you
- 38:17Speaker 2: would have to change your stuff, do it that way
- 38:19Speaker 2: and figure it out from there. So that's if you
- 38:21Speaker 2: want to do it, go ahead. Same thing on Mitchell,
- 38:24Speaker 2: Keith Mitchell for the Ravens. Sounds like he's gonna be
- 38:26Speaker 2: back in the mix tonight again too. Just again not
- 38:28Speaker 2: trying to figure that stuff out. If it happens, it happens,
- 38:30Speaker 2: if it doesn't, it doesn't. I feel much better about
- 38:32Speaker 2: all the other options we have, and you can play
- 38:35Speaker 2: them just to be different. But I just think there's
- 38:36Speaker 2: other way. There's so many ways to be different tonight
- 38:38Speaker 2: that I don't even think you need to get there.
- 38:40Speaker 2: And even in higher or lower scoring games, I don't
- 38:42Speaker 2: see him being as big of a part of it.
- 38:44Speaker 2: So I feel very good about where I'm at. The
- 38:46Speaker 2: last thing, I'll say, just wait for them crown emojis
- 38:50Speaker 2: to get sent in Discord voice. I don't know why,
- 38:52Speaker 2: but this is like the best leverage play we might
- 38:55Speaker 2: have got all season if ownership does what I expect
- 38:57Speaker 2: it to. Because in Flex almost the same price, Captain
- 39:01Speaker 2: almost the same price doesn't make sense. It's Lamar. I
- 39:04Speaker 2: get it, he's so cheap, but so many Lamars hurts. Allen's.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Expensive quarterbacks that look like the nuts fail on showdown slates,
- 39:13Speaker 2: and oftentimes their ownership isn't actually associated with who they
- 39:16Speaker 2: are and what they're capable of, in this case, the
- 39:18Speaker 2: best running back in football as many will say, but
- 39:20Speaker 2: I believe he's a quarterback and MVP quarterback that is.
- 39:23Speaker 2: And it's nothing to do with that. It's to all
- 39:26Speaker 2: to do with value on the slate. You have a
- 39:28Speaker 2: million ways to get to him, So why wouldn't I
- 39:30Speaker 2: just play Lamar? That doesn't mean, he's the best play.
- 39:32Speaker 2: So remember that there's other factors. He's shown as the
- 39:35Speaker 2: most optimal, but everything else reflects that. His projection forces
- 39:39Speaker 2: that his ownerships reflect it. There's tons of other captains
- 39:42Speaker 2: on this slate. When the King Henry emojis start getting
- 39:45Speaker 2: posted in Discord tonight, don't be surprised they're gonna jam
- 39:48Speaker 2: this guy. It's November, where he's getting even closer to December,
- 39:51Speaker 2: he does better. They have almost a thirty point team total,
- 39:54Speaker 2: and it all depends on what you think's happened. I
- 39:56Speaker 2: think the Bengals stay in the game, but if they don't,
- 39:59Speaker 2: it gets even better for Henry. The more they go up,
- 40:01Speaker 2: the more that happens. Just jam it, jamm it jammitt.
- 40:04Speaker 2: And I really like Henry quite a bit tonight, actually,
- 40:07Speaker 2: so I'll leave it at that, but title kick it
- 40:09Speaker 2: back to you, man. Let's go into wide receiver. Lots
- 40:10Speaker 2: to talk about here.
- 40:12Speaker 4: That most definitely a lot to talk about.
- 40:13Speaker 5: I'll start with the Baltimore side, and I mean, I
- 40:16Speaker 5: think it's pretty clear for a lot of it.
- 40:18Speaker 4: Baltimore is definitely clear.
- 40:19Speaker 5: Zay Flowers, Rashod Bateman got pretty much all the work
- 40:23Speaker 5: and they did get Deontay Johnson over from the Panthers.
- 40:29Speaker 5: Obviously he was mixed in. He had seventeen routes. Aglar
- 40:33Speaker 5: had nineteen routes his walls due at twenty, So that
- 40:35Speaker 5: part's tough, and I think I want to make a
- 40:38Speaker 5: rule Max one of those guys, because they also are
- 40:41Speaker 5: fine going two tight end sets. It will be interesting
- 40:44Speaker 5: if they go a little less of that with no
- 40:46Speaker 5: likely today. But you mentioned Charlie Cold multiple times like
- 40:49Speaker 5: he had a real role on that team.
- 40:52Speaker 4: I love Zag's by far my favorite on the slates.
- 40:54Speaker 5: I really like Bateman at his price too, because I mean,
- 40:57Speaker 5: we've seen big Bateman games.
- 40:58Speaker 4: The price is very fair.
- 41:00Speaker 5: Again, I talked earlier Gaseki Bateman in a tier of
- 41:03Speaker 5: their own around like kickers in that and no one's
- 41:05Speaker 5: really above them. So why could Bateman out score a
- 41:08Speaker 5: Chase Brom Why can't Bateman out score a Zay Flowers.
- 41:11Speaker 5: We've seen it before, so I'm definitely in on Zay
- 41:14Speaker 5: and Bateman. Again, I do like the Ravens today. I
- 41:17Speaker 5: know you're a Ravens guys, so maybe you can talk
- 41:19Speaker 5: me into agelar deonce this wall of stuff. I'm gonna
- 41:22Speaker 5: probably have some in my pool, but I'm thinking Max
- 41:24Speaker 5: one right now. You could change my mind. Bingle side.
- 41:28Speaker 5: It's easy because it's Chase in Yoshi Bas. Eighty eight
- 41:30Speaker 5: percent of snaps Chase ninety one Yoshi Bas. They do
- 41:33Speaker 5: run a lot of two tight end sets as well. Again,
- 41:35Speaker 5: no Eric All but sample Kasecki, Tanner, Hudson. When we
- 41:39Speaker 5: get there, when they do run eleven personnel, it'll be interesting,
- 41:42Speaker 5: though everyone we just talked about the Burton thing extensively.
- 41:45Speaker 5: You're supposed to have a big role. The dude doesn't
- 41:46Speaker 5: show up. He's playing slots after he's a rookie, Like, hey,
- 41:50Speaker 5: what are you doing? Man? Like you're a rookie, you
- 41:52Speaker 5: finally got there. Higgins is hurt, you have your chance,
- 41:55Speaker 5: you don't show up. I don't know what's going on.
- 41:57Speaker 6: Crazy, it's crazy indeed to make zero, But like CT,
- 42:02Speaker 6: I don't know what's goin anyway, you think he probably
- 42:05Speaker 6: like he's he's better than Trent Irwin.
- 42:08Speaker 5: He can at least extend the field. He has that
- 42:10Speaker 5: big play upside that can break this late. So I
- 42:12Speaker 5: know I prefer him to Irwin.
- 42:15Speaker 3: That's a rule.
- 42:15Speaker 5: I probably make Max one, Like those two are gonna
- 42:17Speaker 5: eat into each other, but they also are cheap. I
- 42:20Speaker 5: don't know, man, I think I'm gonna play get him
- 42:22Speaker 5: on a Burton. I'm looking at eight percent. They wanted
- 42:25Speaker 5: him last week, hopefully they really sat him down, got
- 42:27Speaker 5: things straight, and he has big play upside, So he's
- 42:30Speaker 5: my uh. I'm gonna play a lot of Chase yoshibas
- 42:33Speaker 5: Zay Bateman. I think it's very very clear. Could leave
- 42:36Speaker 5: money as pivots after that, though. Burton's my favor and
- 42:39Speaker 5: it's scary. But talk to me with this Raven's wide
- 42:41Speaker 5: receiver three situation.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think you nailed it. Like that was
- 42:44Speaker 2: what I was gonna say too. I sortaly think Deontay
- 42:46Speaker 2: just ramps up a little bit more this week, and
- 42:48Speaker 2: I think it really hurts the guy like Nelson Agelore.
- 42:50Speaker 2: So it's gonna come down to if you even think
- 42:53Speaker 2: you'll get them. But they're close enough in price, I don't.
- 42:54Speaker 2: I don't even think you're gonna get again. The Tyland
- 42:57Speaker 2: Wallace is the you know who else? Else? Can I
- 43:00Speaker 2: say from earlier, like the Khalil Herberts, the Mitchell's, all
- 43:02Speaker 2: those guys, if they you know crushed me on this slate.
- 43:05Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm pumped up to this slate. Won't hurt
- 43:07Speaker 2: my feelings. I've been super pumped for slates before that
- 43:09Speaker 2: didn't go my way. But I just I don't see
- 43:11Speaker 2: how when I have a million different ways, with different captains,
- 43:16Speaker 2: roster construction, leaving money, a million different things that I
- 43:19Speaker 2: can do to tonight instead of trying to find that
- 43:22Speaker 2: play and have that thing even be needed or hurt me,
- 43:25Speaker 2: Like Tylan Wallace could get a touchdown tonight and not
- 43:27Speaker 2: be needed with all the studs that we have in
- 43:29Speaker 2: the different constructions that you can do. So to me,
- 43:32Speaker 2: I'm just sticking to that, and I think, whop, you've
- 43:34Speaker 2: sort of been doing the same. Hopefully that answers your questions.
- 43:35Speaker 5: On the one more, why like he went from ten
- 43:39Speaker 5: five snaps, ten six all the way to twenty and
- 43:42Speaker 5: that was Deonta's first game.
- 43:43Speaker 4: Did they Zay and Bateman's were down a little bit?
- 43:45Speaker 4: Did they get hurt a bit?
- 43:47Speaker 2: I can't remember. Maybe the chat remembers too, if there
- 43:49Speaker 2: was left.
- 43:50Speaker 3: I think he left the game for a little bit
- 43:51Speaker 3: and maybe that's why.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and these guys, I mean this
- 43:58Speaker 2: is the best about our I mean, our discord is
- 43:59Speaker 2: just phenomenal. Saw some stuff in there today, especially on
- 44:02Speaker 2: the NBA side of things, just incredible. Shout out to
- 44:04Speaker 2: Little Neck BG and all the other members that are
- 44:06Speaker 2: chiming in on a daily basis, but like new one's
- 44:08Speaker 2: in here talking game theory in the YouTube chat and
- 44:12Speaker 2: then Billy coming back with the right ideas like this
- 44:14Speaker 2: is the best, right, this is what it's all about.
- 44:16Speaker 2: So really appreciate that, guys. I'm definitely breaking it all down.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Certainly something to look at there. The Burton stuff to
- 44:22Speaker 2: kick back to that. I guess I was going to
- 44:23Speaker 2: kick it to Hoop and hopefully that answered yours. But
- 44:25Speaker 2: the one thing I want to bring up there, I
- 44:28Speaker 2: guess Hoop, I'll kick it to you, because how do
- 44:30Speaker 2: you think the team handles this. They already gave him
- 44:32Speaker 2: shit like Burrow gave him a piece of his mind.
- 44:35Speaker 2: Chase said he had a talk with him before that,
- 44:37Speaker 2: and he's not going to do it no more. He said,
- 44:39Speaker 2: he's a grown man. He could show up if he
- 44:40Speaker 2: wants to show up. I've been there myself. By the way,
- 44:42Speaker 2: there was a game where Chase missed and interestingly enough,
- 44:46Speaker 2: the storyline on this, I'm always deep diving that you
- 44:49Speaker 2: know it. Chase missed or was late for a practice,
- 44:52Speaker 2: came into play. Guess who he played the Ravens. Guess
- 44:55Speaker 2: what he dropped two hundred and one yards and a touchdown.
- 44:57Speaker 2: So maybe you want to play narratives and something like that,
- 45:00Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton, not Jamar Chase to me. But if you
- 45:03Speaker 2: want to get up, you know, to play a little
- 45:05Speaker 2: bit differently. I mentioned it earlier. That would be a way.
- 45:07Speaker 2: But who do you think they say, you know, continue
- 45:10Speaker 2: to punish him for this, or say, how do we
- 45:13Speaker 2: get this guy's head in the game. Well, let's get
- 45:16Speaker 2: him in the game, Let's get him involved, Let's make
- 45:18Speaker 2: him a part of this offense so he knows how
- 45:20Speaker 2: good this could be for him, and get him dialed
- 45:22Speaker 2: back in because you don't want to waste a pick
- 45:24Speaker 2: or a player or a guy like this when you
- 45:25Speaker 2: could get to using them. But how long do you
- 45:27Speaker 2: discipline them for two short season?
- 45:29Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so they're down pass catchers obviously, you know,
- 45:32Speaker 3: no t Higgins, now Eric All, who is a big
- 45:34Speaker 3: part of what they're doing, gone as well. I'm playing them.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot of them. I hope the ownership
- 45:40Speaker 3: remains in check. Like we're talking about a twenty two
- 45:43Speaker 3: hundred dollars a wide receiver at eight percent ownership. Right,
- 45:46Speaker 3: So if you want to be in on him and
- 45:48Speaker 3: you don't want to go super in on him, you
- 45:50Speaker 3: play him at ten percent. If they're still punishing his ass,
- 45:53Speaker 3: ten percent of your lineups are dead. Whip do you do?
- 45:55Speaker 3: Depending on what you do, you know, depending on how
- 45:57Speaker 3: many teams you make. So it's like not a huge
- 46:00Speaker 3: risk at the price tag and the ownership uh to
- 46:04Speaker 3: to say, all right, you know they're gonna have him
- 46:06Speaker 3: go out there and be a part of the team.
- 46:08Speaker 3: The punishment's over, we need him, Like that's the side
- 46:11Speaker 3: that I'm gonna be on. I hope the ownership remains
- 46:14Speaker 3: in check because I want to play this guy and
- 46:15Speaker 3: I'm gonna play them at a pretty big rate. But again,
- 46:17Speaker 3: if you are somewhat skeptical of the situation, fatom, that's fine.
- 46:22Speaker 3: If you're a little bit intu play every yeah or
- 46:26Speaker 3: play yeah and play everyone yeah. So to me, like
- 46:29Speaker 3: the it's not much of a risk at like you know,
- 46:32Speaker 3: less than ten percent ownership into twenty two hundred dollars
- 46:36Speaker 3: price tag. So I'm gonna be in on him, and uh,
- 46:40Speaker 3: you know that that's my opinion there. I agree with
- 46:43Speaker 3: you guys on the other cheap dudes, like I'm not
- 46:44Speaker 3: fucking with Wallace and you know guys like that on
- 46:48Speaker 3: the slate like if they beat me, like, okay, that's fine,
- 46:51Speaker 3: I'll see you Sunday for the main slate. Like I'm
- 46:53Speaker 3: cool with stuff like that. The one thing, the one
- 46:57Speaker 3: guy that's interesting to me, and I'm gonna play so
- 47:00Speaker 3: and I think his ownership does come down because everyone
- 47:02Speaker 3: kind of has the projection super Low's Deontay Johnson. And again,
- 47:07Speaker 3: he's not gonna have like a full on roll you
- 47:10Speaker 3: know this this week, but it has to be more
- 47:12Speaker 3: than last week, right, it has to be more. They're
- 47:13Speaker 3: projected to score twenty nine. They traded for the guy,
- 47:16Speaker 3: they want to get him involved. He's gonna be involved.
- 47:19Speaker 3: Forty eight hundred is a little bit uncomfortable because we
- 47:22Speaker 3: have like Justin Tucker there, and there's other guys in
- 47:24Speaker 3: the range that you're gonna want to play over him.
- 47:27Speaker 3: Mark Andrews as well is going to be right there.
- 47:30Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in on Deontay especially on in like
- 47:34Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson captain teams, I think the ownership probably ends
- 47:38Speaker 3: up lower. We're showing twelve. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 47:41Speaker 3: he gets under ten, just because everywhere you look like
- 47:44Speaker 3: they have a low projection number on him. Just has
- 47:48Speaker 3: to be more involved than he was last week. You know,
- 47:51Speaker 3: is it gonna be like a DeAndre Hopkins situation where
- 47:53Speaker 3: it's like full like nothing and then like full go.
- 47:56Speaker 3: Probably not, But at forty eight hundred team projected to
- 48:00Speaker 3: score thirty, he's gonna have an increased role this week.
- 48:03Speaker 3: I do have interest in Deontay Johnson and probably a
- 48:06Speaker 3: little bit less in Eglar. I'll probably play Aguilar as well,
- 48:09Speaker 3: But if Deontay Johnson has a bigger role, it's gonna
- 48:12Speaker 3: be at the expense of a guy like Nelson Aguilar.
- 48:16Speaker 3: Shot Bateman's looked great, man. I just can't imagine them
- 48:18Speaker 3: scaling back on him. He you know, we talked about
- 48:20Speaker 3: Zay Flowers, how he's benefited from, you know, the the
- 48:24Speaker 3: Derrick Henley, Henry, Lamar Jackson's success on the ground, like
- 48:28Speaker 3: Bateman just gets wide open man, and fifty eight hundred
- 48:31Speaker 3: is again one of those price tags. That's like, you know,
- 48:34Speaker 3: I don't do I really want to play fifty eight
- 48:35Speaker 3: for Bateman, so ownership should be in check. I think
- 48:38Speaker 3: he's a good play talked about Yoshi, very solid. The
- 48:41Speaker 3: guy's up top, Chase, Zay Flowers, love them both. You know.
- 48:45Speaker 3: Something just tells me that Zay Flowers like goes off.
- 48:48Speaker 3: So I want a lot of him obviously in Captain
- 48:50Speaker 3: and Flex as well. And then you know, not not
- 48:54Speaker 3: not really going to play a ton of Trent Merlin
- 48:55Speaker 3: because I think that I'm going to bank on them.
- 48:57Speaker 3: Given given Burton a legitimate chance here today, there.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Rowin stuff is certainly going to mix in. I'm going
- 49:03Speaker 2: to separate those two. I don't see a world where
- 49:05Speaker 2: it's Burton and Irwin. It's certainly possible, but again, if
- 49:08Speaker 2: that type of thing kills, I have to look. Maybe
- 49:09Speaker 2: I won't say the rule specifically, because they'd have to
- 49:12Speaker 2: look at the lineup. Like I said, I do have
- 49:13Speaker 2: some interest to a Burrow Captain tonight that does not
- 49:16Speaker 2: include Chase. I just think it would probably end up
- 49:19Speaker 2: more like you know, Burton and Gasecki or something like
- 49:22Speaker 2: that instead. But I'll have to look at it and
- 49:23Speaker 2: see Kenny did bring up a good point, like they
- 49:26Speaker 2: didn't give up anything for him either. I do think,
- 49:28Speaker 2: like Hoops said, they'll want to get him involved. But
- 49:30Speaker 2: I think it's what we said, and when Title asked
- 49:31Speaker 2: about it, that's exactly how I saw it too. I
- 49:33Speaker 2: think it's kind of just get rid of it or
- 49:35Speaker 2: it's kind of the set up there, right.
- 49:37Speaker 3: Yeah, and like like that's just the market for these
- 49:40Speaker 3: wide receivers, which is kind of surprising. I mean, the
- 49:42Speaker 3: Chiefs gave up nothing for DeAndre Hopkins and he's going
- 49:45Speaker 3: to be like their you know, wide receiver won for
- 49:47Speaker 3: the rest of the season. So I mean, yeah, I
- 49:49Speaker 3: get that they gave up nothing, but there's a reason
- 49:52Speaker 3: they brought him in and it's not to sit on
- 49:53Speaker 3: the bench. So I'm gonna, you know, take some chances
- 49:56Speaker 3: because I do think the ownership is lower than what
- 49:58Speaker 3: it's shown around the industry.
- 49:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly I agree there too, And it also
- 50:02Speaker 2: reflects like he's forty eight hundred, so you gotta get
- 50:04Speaker 2: a little something at him. But I think when the
- 50:06Speaker 2: snaps go up and there is more chance and if
- 50:08Speaker 2: they put up the actual three, if they put up
- 50:09Speaker 2: their thirty points, that always boosts everybody, right, all of
- 50:12Speaker 2: their squad is involved, and we certainly agree that he's
- 50:15Speaker 2: gonna play more and eat up more of Eggalore's lunch
- 50:18Speaker 2: likely is out. There's all kinds of role and opportunity
- 50:21Speaker 2: for him tonight, so I definitely don't hate that. I
- 50:23Speaker 2: will say to this one, I looked a lot better
- 50:25Speaker 2: in Pitchers five years ago too, a little healthier, little thinner,
- 50:28Speaker 2: all those things like people did stuff on different teams
- 50:31Speaker 2: years ago that has literally nothing to do with tonight.
- 50:34Speaker 2: So just little things like that not something I'm going
- 50:36Speaker 2: to consider. But I think there's some other reasons. And
- 50:37Speaker 2: Hoop made some good points there. So our guy Rob
- 50:40Speaker 2: shout out the RM here says hoops Lan is great
- 50:43Speaker 2: for flowers. I said it earlier. Zay still hasn't got
- 50:47Speaker 2: his flowers. He's the guy man. Everyone thinks he's like
- 50:50Speaker 2: a basic wide receiver. He's been killing him all season long,
- 50:53Speaker 2: so I love to see it. He's certainly made Lamar
- 50:56Speaker 2: look a lot better. Bro. I had hair of you
- 50:59Speaker 2: exactly when when Deontay Johnson was killing the Bengals as
- 51:03Speaker 2: a stealer. A lot of things were going on different.
- 51:07Speaker 3: Like those analogies like like looking back like that stuff.
- 51:10Speaker 3: That's like, yeah, if my aunt had a dick, she'd
- 51:12Speaker 3: be my uncle. Like, I mean that's like, you know,
- 51:15Speaker 3: it's totally it's just yeah, those.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Comments, the jack got all the good ones. Now I
- 51:21Speaker 2: was jacked five years ago. Yeah, lots of stuff. Shit,
- 51:24Speaker 2: I was married then, Derek, oh Man, this is too good.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff going on. But yeah, I love
- 51:30Speaker 2: this chat for that reason.
- 51:32Speaker 5: So all right, Like one last thing on that, how
- 51:35Speaker 5: much eleven and twelve personnel do you like? Do you
- 51:38Speaker 5: think the Ravens go more eleven with no likely or
- 51:40Speaker 5: you think they'll just jam Cohler and and Andrews a lot?
- 51:44Speaker 5: Like what are your thought because they've been previous, they've
- 51:47Speaker 5: ran a bunch of two tight end sets, I mean
- 51:49Speaker 5: sometimes even three.
- 51:50Speaker 3: Like, what are your thoughts on make? It depends on
- 51:52Speaker 3: the game, the score the Bengals are able to keep Yeah,
- 51:56Speaker 3: the Bengals are able to keep this competitive. I think
- 51:58Speaker 3: they do a little bit lots of that stuff than
- 52:00Speaker 3: they normally do because you know, having likely likely is
- 52:04Speaker 3: a legit pass catcher. You know you're going to a
- 52:06Speaker 3: guy like Cohler that that's you know, obviously more blocking
- 52:09Speaker 3: type stuff. So if it's a close competitive game, I
- 52:11Speaker 3: think they do a little bit less of that, and
- 52:12Speaker 3: then we have the opportunity for Deontay Johnson to get
- 52:16Speaker 3: more reps and then maybe even Egler.
- 52:18Speaker 2: These are good comments, and Julius then came back, man,
- 52:22Speaker 2: he's a title is still in diapers. But oh man,
- 52:26Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I guess this one was the
- 52:28Speaker 2: only one that came up. The title and you could
- 52:29Speaker 2: take us to tight end, But was like any thought
- 52:32Speaker 2: on that, like they just start fitting them in for
- 52:34Speaker 2: that stuff. Because I'm not a big eleven twelve personnel expert,
- 52:37Speaker 2: I don't know too much about that. And again make
- 52:39Speaker 2: his likely's out, Like, I just think there's more nuanced
- 52:42Speaker 2: to this slate because of all of these things. So
- 52:44Speaker 2: I guess my thoughts were like do you see that
- 52:46Speaker 2: being a thing. I don't even know how they would
- 52:49Speaker 2: play it here where it's like, hey, let's ease him
- 52:50Speaker 2: in this way and just give him an easy role
- 52:53Speaker 2: and he racks up you know, six for sixty five,
- 52:55Speaker 2: maybe gets a touchdown, and it's really interesting at forty
- 52:58Speaker 2: eight hundred if that happens.
- 52:59Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, the reason I do think he gets involved
- 53:03Speaker 5: a bit.
- 53:03Speaker 4: I think he's better than Agilar. I think they know it.
- 53:05Speaker 5: I think he should be taking over in three receiver sets,
- 53:08Speaker 5: so though E's a man, he should know the playbook
- 53:10Speaker 5: another week down. I do like what Hoops said, though,
- 53:13Speaker 5: and kind of what I'm building in mis eleven and
- 53:15Speaker 5: twelve is like if I knew they'd be an eleven
- 53:17Speaker 5: person a lot more than twelve. Deontay gets a huge
- 53:20Speaker 5: bump there, and the ownership really doesn't follow. I do
- 53:22Speaker 5: think you're probably right, Hoop, Like, if they're up seven
- 53:25Speaker 5: fourteen pound it with Derrick Henry, go big two receivers
- 53:29Speaker 5: and play like they usually have. But if they're down
- 53:31Speaker 5: like that's when you can definitely see them run a
- 53:33Speaker 5: lot more through receivers because they still have Agilar and
- 53:36Speaker 5: Deontay want to mix them in too, So I don't
- 53:39Speaker 5: really have too much more to add. Their tight end, though,
- 53:42Speaker 5: I think, is I love tight end today. I hope
- 53:44Speaker 5: at least one tight ends on The Winner. I would
- 53:46Speaker 5: probably love to see two tight ends on the Winner.
- 53:48Speaker 5: Start with Koseki talked about him a lot. I love
- 53:51Speaker 5: people saying he's too expensive. He does look like that,
- 53:54Speaker 5: but he's also an arranged. Not many are going to go,
- 53:57Speaker 5: so I like him.
- 53:58Speaker 4: Andrews.
- 53:58Speaker 5: He's one of the most popular values on the site
- 54:01Speaker 5: with no likely there's obvious reasons.
- 54:03Speaker 3: To like him.
- 54:04Speaker 5: Drew Sample at two point six K. He's right in
- 54:06Speaker 5: between Herbert and Mitchell. We both agreed. I'm in the
- 54:10Speaker 5: same page. I don't like those guys much. You have
- 54:12Speaker 5: Yoshi Boss for higher owned for above. Burton's right below,
- 54:16Speaker 5: who's not gonna be two owned, but he ran. He
- 54:19Speaker 5: had seventy six percent of the snap show last week.
- 54:21Speaker 5: The other ones all got hurt. He had twenty percent,
- 54:23Speaker 5: Kaseki thirty six, Hudson twenty seven. Like Drew, Sample is
- 54:27Speaker 5: on the field a Ton three fourths of the snaps.
- 54:30Speaker 5: Is he a great pass catcher? No, he's mainly meant
- 54:32Speaker 5: for blocking. You give me anyone at pretty low ownership
- 54:34Speaker 5: for cheap that's on the field this much. I'm in
- 54:37Speaker 5: at two six next guy Tanner Hudson one point six
- 54:40Speaker 5: K like Burton. That think's fine above, but otherwise in
- 54:43Speaker 5: that range, I prefer Hudson to Irwin.
- 54:45Speaker 4: I don't like Irwin much.
- 54:47Speaker 5: Otherwise there's no one around there, So if you want
- 54:49Speaker 5: a cheap play, Tanner Hudson, he was on the field
- 54:51Speaker 5: a little bit, go down a little more.
- 54:54Speaker 4: Charlie Kohler.
- 54:55Speaker 5: He looks like the best play outside of Andrews, probably
- 54:57Speaker 5: because of his price only six hundred bucks. There's only
- 55:00Speaker 5: two tight ends Andrews still last week, Like, I don't
- 55:04Speaker 5: see them giving Andrews seventy five plus percent of the
- 55:06Speaker 5: snaps or anything. Maybe I'm wrong there, but Coler thirty
- 55:10Speaker 5: nine percent, Andrew's forty nine percent.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Some two tight end sets.
- 55:13Speaker 5: You can't find anyone below one K that's worth clicking
- 55:16Speaker 5: down there in my opinion.
- 55:18Speaker 4: Cohler is that guy will be on the field a lot.
- 55:21Speaker 5: You can down from Yoshibas to Cohler and leave three k.
- 55:25Speaker 5: You can drop down from Beyonte from Justice Hill. Heck,
- 55:29Speaker 5: you can even drop down from Gyiseki to Coler and
- 55:31Speaker 5: leave six K. So all plenty of tight ends will
- 55:34Speaker 5: be on the field. That's gonna be five of them.
- 55:35Speaker 5: Giseki Hudson sample for the Bengals, Andrews, Kohler them on
- 55:40Speaker 5: the field.
- 55:41Speaker 3: They're cheap.
- 55:41Speaker 5: I'm gonna be playing a lot of tight ends. I
- 55:43Speaker 5: hope one pretty much. I kind of hope two are
- 55:46Speaker 5: on the optimum today, that'd be good for me.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the Sinsey side more like spreading it
- 55:51Speaker 2: around because I think, like the Tanner Hudson's of the world,
- 55:54Speaker 2: the samples, they can all just get in there for
- 55:55Speaker 2: the cheap guys if you're getting them. I like the
- 55:57Speaker 2: Seki way more in flex than like we talked about,
- 56:00Speaker 2: you'll put them at a captain earlier. But I mainly
- 56:02Speaker 2: like these guys more because two reasons. One, if I'm
- 56:05Speaker 2: playing by Derek Henry up top, they're gonna be needing
- 56:08Speaker 2: these guys coming back. It means they're probably down in
- 56:09Speaker 2: the game. They're just tossing around as many guys as
- 56:11Speaker 2: possible too. When I flip the Lamar quarterback another Lamar
- 56:15Speaker 2: leverage play. I talked about the Ellen Lamar stance for leverage,
- 56:17Speaker 2: and there's multiways you can get it on Lamar himself
- 56:19Speaker 2: and go way overweight, or you can leverage against him
- 56:22Speaker 2: and play these other guys that make perfect sense on
- 56:24Speaker 2: the opposite spots. And I think Burrow when I do that.
- 56:26Speaker 2: If I go away, even when I'm playing with Chase
- 56:29Speaker 2: in the flex, to be honest, then it's like if
- 56:31Speaker 2: I go Chase with Hudson or sample instead of Chase Gaseki.
- 56:35Speaker 2: The people automatically try and fit in and just land
- 56:37Speaker 2: on the same build as everybody else. I'm gonna be
- 56:39Speaker 2: able to get different a ton of different ways in
- 56:41Speaker 2: those builds. So I like them a little bit more.
- 56:43Speaker 2: I guess, you know, kicking it to you hoop on
- 56:45Speaker 2: the raven side of things like that, Andrews Coler like
- 56:48Speaker 2: Andrews Man, it's gonna be super owned for good reason.
- 56:52Speaker 2: I like them up top at sixty three hundred. You'll
- 56:54Speaker 2: get similar lineups to most, but there's ways to get different.
- 56:56Speaker 2: But maybe play them with Cohler together or something like
- 57:00Speaker 2: Lamar up top with both of them in the flex
- 57:02Speaker 2: and just call them forty eight hundred bucks for two.
- 57:05Speaker 2: It's it's forty hundred bucks for two guys, and you
- 57:07Speaker 2: take two spots up. That's that's why I would look
- 57:09Speaker 2: at the combo pack.
- 57:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna group these guys out.
- 57:14Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot of them. I feel good about them. Both.
- 57:18Speaker 3: These quarterbacks like throwing two tight ends, and they in
- 57:22Speaker 3: backup tight ends too, like they'll throw. They'll definitely throw
- 57:25Speaker 3: to these guys. So I'm very even if even if
- 57:27Speaker 3: someone is labeled like a blocking tight end, like they
- 57:30Speaker 3: can be successful in the Bengals and Ravens offense. So
- 57:33Speaker 3: in on all these guys Jasecki, Andrews, Sample, Hudson Coler,
- 57:40Speaker 3: I think all really solid plays on this late all
- 57:44Speaker 3: very affordable and again, like the main reason I like
- 57:49Speaker 3: these guys again, like do you feel comfortable with a
- 57:52Speaker 3: Sample Hudson Coler Like their names like no, hell no,
- 57:56Speaker 3: but there's injuries on both both sides likely and then
- 58:01Speaker 3: the the Eric All and Higgins on the Bengal side,
- 58:03Speaker 3: and I know both these quarterbacks will throw it to
- 58:05Speaker 3: whoever's on the field, and especially the tight end position.
- 58:08Speaker 3: So kind of you know, I agree with you know
- 58:11Speaker 3: what title laid out. They're not too much more to add.
- 58:13Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do kickers d quick. But I'm just saying,
- 58:16Speaker 2: like that's the other thing too, is those guys like
- 58:19Speaker 2: Sample and Hudson were already in the mix with all
- 58:22Speaker 2: in the mix, like all four of them were in there.
- 58:23Speaker 2: Everyone was pissed off that Koseki wasn't coming through, and
- 58:26Speaker 2: then everybody was pissed off that he did because he
- 58:28Speaker 2: broke the slightest chalk that's DFS nfldfs for you in
- 58:31Speaker 2: a nutshell. But I definitely think that you know there's
- 58:34Speaker 2: something to that because they're missing Multiple, they're still missing Higgins,
- 58:37Speaker 2: even though they bring Burton back in this time versus
- 58:39Speaker 2: not before. They were using those tight ends before anyway,
- 58:42Speaker 2: So I don't hoop. I'll stay with you Kickers and
- 58:44Speaker 2: d's anything quick you want to add there.
- 58:47Speaker 3: A little bit different approach for me at at defense.
- 58:50Speaker 3: I always say like, whatever I get, I'll take and
- 58:52Speaker 3: move on. Today I'm not playing either of them. I'm
- 58:54Speaker 3: just gonna plan. I'm just gonna fully fade on and
- 58:56Speaker 3: they're gonna come with it. It's not a ton of
- 58:58Speaker 3: ownership that people will play them. They'll just be fades
- 59:00Speaker 3: for me. Like I love all the pass catchers that
- 59:03Speaker 3: are priced right around these guys, and I could see
- 59:06Speaker 3: a scenario where one of these defenses does do well
- 59:09Speaker 3: and gets you a ten, eleven, twelve points, but one
- 59:12Speaker 3: of the cheap guys outscores them. So I am I'm
- 59:14Speaker 3: gonna fade both defenses most likely. Again, I haven't built,
- 59:18Speaker 3: but I can't imagine that I'm gonna get any And
- 59:21Speaker 3: then I'm in on the Kickers. Tucker justin Tucker and
- 59:25Speaker 3: then McPherson. Fine with both, but the one thing for
- 59:29Speaker 3: sure is I'll be fitting those defenses today.
- 59:33Speaker 2: How close is Bellevue, Washington to anywhere near Baltimore?
- 59:39Speaker 3: Hell of a question.
- 59:43Speaker 2: I'm doing some extra research for the people, And what
- 59:46Speaker 2: I was really checking in on was Tanner Hudson versus
- 59:50Speaker 2: Drew Sample. Now Drew Sample has I know, like when
- 59:53Speaker 2: Washington played the Ravens recently, Everyone's like, oh, it's a
- 59:57Speaker 2: close game, it's a battle of these two teams and
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: all this stuff. So obviously the you know, the state
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: that they're in, all that stuff. So I just wondered
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: because Drew Sample went to school there and was born there.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: But Tanner Hudson's birthday is this weekend, So is one
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: of those guys getting the touchdown? Was the question. But
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: you know, if nothing else, just have to look into
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: that stuff. So title Kickers and D's to round it out,
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: what do you got.
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: If you're playing MMA Saturday and you like your birthday narrative?
- 1:00:24Speaker 5: Underdog Cody's statement, it's his birthday on fight day. So
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: there you go, Tambo, That's.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: What I like, man, that's what I like. Get me
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: that that's winner automatic.
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: There you go. I'm with hoop On.
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: I'm not playing Bengals D, but I am playing Ravens
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: D because like as six point favorites at home, if
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: they get out fourteen nothing or something and make Burrow
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: drop back fifty times, they can pin their ears back
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: and make a lot of plays.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: So I'm definitely playing some Ravens. No Bingals D.
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I'm kind of indifferent with these Kickers,
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: like they definitely have to do something. I like Bateman
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: in the range, I like Koseki, I like Andrews, and
- 1:00:57Speaker 5: you can save money and go like the Yoshi Bosses
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: of the world for lower owned as pivots.
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: So I'm going to play some, but I don't love
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: him today.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Oh, Kenny did have a good one in here. We
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: do get a fair sam. You know, I'm big on
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: sample size, and this one we got might have to
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: have a little sample of Drew in the lineups tonight
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: because he's an option as well. So yeah, I like
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: that call. And you know, I don't have much else
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: on the Kickers, and D's the only thing I will
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: say just again, people number picks, plays, fades, exacts, all
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: this stuff if you, we'll get exact playerpool, slate plan
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: everything on the site once we get our final numbers up.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: We can't be more honest and transparent and exact than that.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: That's what goes up on the site once we get
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: our finals. This is just to talk through the slate
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: and one thing that just hit my mind, and this
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: would be the slate for it. Trust me, AFC North
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: Battle second game of the season. We have not had
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: a we haven't yet have we had a D captain
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: win yet.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: I don't think why why.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Thirty point Ravens D just prints That's gonna be the.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Uh so much great momentum on the show. And then
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: you start he even opened.
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: Up no Chief Captains and how he circles back to Ravens.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: Well, the only thing is I'm not as excited. So
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: when we talked through the show, I like that. But
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: what I was gonna say is the one thing I've
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: been coming down on a little bit after talking to
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: the whole show is this Mark Andrews play. I know
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: how good he is, I know he's turned it on
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: since the beginning of the season and all that stuff.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: I'm a major Ravens fan. I'm saying I do worry.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: I know that automatically we do this all the time.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Likely's out big game for this guy. Well, what ends
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: up happening is now it's like we don't got our
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: set like that. We need Andrews to block a little
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: bit more. Let's do this, And it's Henry and Deontay
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Johnson and Zay Flowers and Bateman that are doing all
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: the work. It's not Andrews. And guess who is sixty
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: three hundred at captain versus sixty six hundred at captain
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: for the D. So I'm just saying I'm thinking about
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: it now a little less Andrews, even though he's got
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: the good injury spot. I'm thinking a little more about
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: this Bateman and Deontay's stuff, and I'm thinking a little
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: bit about this raven stuff even in flex though it's
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: the same in flex. You don't have to give me
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: the shit about captain. He's two hundred bucks more. It's
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: two ter bucks more to play the Ravens D versus
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: Mark Andrews. There's definitely a possibility he starts with ten
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: more points than Andrews starts with too.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: So oh oh gosh, man, so much great momentum, on
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: the show. Nothing worse than like just a complete buzzkill.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: As we're like finished.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: There's been so many quarterbacks shit on this season. I've
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: pumped you with Aaron Rodgers. Horrible play goes on and
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: has a great game, but it's.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: All about I don't even know what you said. I
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: blocked it out after, but like I just.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't happened yet, so it's gonna happen soon.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: That's that's the thing. Don't don't be mad about it.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: And I'm gonna put Ravens up top Henry in the
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: flex and then Burrow in the flex. There's the other
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: core for you. Let let's do it that.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: Ever on one hundred and fifty and Max that core.
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: Just tell me what turn is your plan?
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: Yeah, you can use it for marketing, just to make
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: sure when when you you the slate locks, make sure
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: you screenshot your winning. If it works, this will all
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: be marketing and you and I are gonna, yeah, I'll
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: be on vacation for the n'na be Like, where did
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: Hoop go? You know?
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: On the we play it back, Hoop says, I closed
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: my ears. I didn't even hear what you said. That's
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: the one. But this is the other thing. Like I'm
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: not against it, I'm just saying, you know, Andrews, we
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: already know. Everybody knows what you just said here, Like
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: that's the facts. Everybody expects that. It's what what aren't
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: they thinking about? And those two dudes are literally even
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: if you take the Captain one because you're angry about
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: it and throw it out the window, it's two undred
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: bucks more to get the Ravens D in flex. There
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: is lineups that could have Henriette, Captain Ravens D and
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: the Flex and they just crush. They go up and
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: they don't need Andrews. Andrews stays in and blocks. They
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: have all these other dudes to get into the mix.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: There's Bengals that beat him and smash him on the
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: other side. Like that part is not crazy. Hoop just
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: doesn't like Captain up top. You can definitely play the
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Ravens D in flex. Title was just on them too.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: So I just bring up the points. You guys build
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: your own lineups. It's my money versus your money, and
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: I'm okay with it.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: The best way to deploy the Ravens defense night for sure,
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: I mean for sure, is Derrick Henry captain teams and
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: hope that you get that sort of game where the
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: tight ends are blocking, they get up fourteen to nothing
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: and it's Derrick Henry just pounding it down their throat
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: for you know, the second half of the game. So
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: that's to me the best way if you're hand building. Again,
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: it's somewhat challenging if you're you know, doing one hundred
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: and fifty with the optimands to get a bunch of
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: teams like that, But if you're handbuilding, I think that's
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: definitely the best way to play Ravens defense.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can still get away with some other
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: stuff like if you go Henry up top Ravens D
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: in the flex and pick a pass catcher for the Ravens,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: maybe it's Andrews. Still maybe play Andrews, but then you've
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: got the Bengals are down in that scenario and you
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: just jam the Bengals coming back. So again, not what
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: everybody's gonna like, but certainly one thing at TCB went
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: and figure it out little too far, a little too far,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: three thousand miles away. I don't know if nobody's going
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: three thousand miles to check this out.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: It was it was the state of Washington, not Washington,
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: d C.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Kay, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what's up. Yeah,
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: Who've got his Miller time at the end. That's that's
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: certainly true. It worked until it didn't. I had him
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: in a really nice lineup, and then they decided not
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: to go for two, which I'm still pissed off about
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: as I know.
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: That was so stupid. Man, that's just incredibly dumb, especially
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: knowing I mean that's a whole different conversation, but knowing
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: you're going to overtime on the road with Patrick Mahomes
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: just baffling to me. These coaches are so stupid, it's
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: it's wild.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that was one of the worst I've
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: ever seen. Not anything to do with money on the line, just.
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: Yeah, literally from Actually I actually made good money by
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: it going to overtime, Like I actually profited on this
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: site because it went to overtime. But that is just
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: an incredibly dumb, dumb decision.
- 1:06:54Speaker 5: Nothing worse than your your coach though, who last year, Dallas.
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: I love Dan Camp. Yeah you're Dallas.
- 1:07:00Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna beat that when they move
- 1:07:02Speaker 5: it back ten yards and he still goes for it.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: I'm like he's got to be like Burton asked where
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: it's like he's burning money on like slot machines and
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: shut on his off days. Like, hey, he has to
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: love the gamble like he has to him as a coach,
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: I would love him.
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: But that decision that that will always rain in.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: My head.
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Coach them.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: Oh wait, we gotta have conflicting reports. Caddy, who's Maryland resident,
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: says for those researching as the m D Living and
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: Ravens Fan, Bellevue is a neighborhood in d C, not
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: far from National Harbor.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: So the last part of that comment's crazy. Come on, guys, easy,
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: Like how's that easy?
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: Google it? That's what he say.
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: I didn't google it.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: I just didn't have enough time to do it all
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: and have to get That's why we got a good
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: chat in here. We always got the people looking out
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: for us. Hoopster, do you got any fan duel talk tonight?
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: With the pricing that's up? Do you see anything?
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: It's soft pricing? Unfortunately, like very soft, Like this is
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: a slate where we could you know, see guys seventeen
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: to five or eighteen k Lamar Jackson at fifteen to five,
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: way too cheap. Burrow fourteen k, Jamar Chase thirteen K,
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: Henry fourteen to five, Flowers twelve, Chase Brown twelve five.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: So all those top end guys between fifteen to five
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: and twelve five just too cheap. The one guy, ironically
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: that's not too cheap is Deontay Johnson, who I think
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: the FanDuel thought that he was still playing for the Panthers.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: Eleven K for Deontay Johnson, that is, that's a tough
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: price tag, a very very tough click. Andrews at ten K,
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Jaseki at nine to five. I think both viable options.
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Bateman stands out at eight k flat, Justice Hill seventy five,
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: Yoshi at seventy five, our Burton guy sixty five. You're
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: gonna be able to get whatever you want over there.
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: The pricing is super super cheap. Lamar Jackson will be
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: even higher owned in the MVP spot, so I think
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: anything out side of him you can probably get some
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: decent leverage. Maybe Derrick Henry up there. Derek Henry is
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: the second highest priced guy on the slate, so maybe
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: he keeps his ownership and check up top a little
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: bit but soft overall, I'd say, for FanDuel.
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: My favorite saying of the year, this is so far,
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: this is the best. But Hoop crushes over there. That's
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: why we let him talk about it. Once we hit
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: about an hour. I'm obviously onto stuff that's not related
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: to anything you guys want to talk about. But Hoop,
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: I mean title, do you even remember this?
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: No?
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: No, he doesn't even know what it is.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: Hoop.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: You got to remember I'm the same age as Hoop.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: This is a like a I don't know if it
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: was a competitor even maybe it was even before Google.
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: Either way, it was all around that same time. And
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: now someone's a million dollar idea right now. You could
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: start up ai Jeeves and basically just use ai'd ask whatever.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: They already have it and exists. But ask Jeeves was
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: just a search engine where instead of typing in the
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: topic and it just pops up, you could type like
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: a question, what about where is this place located? And
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: you do it? So ask Jeeves maybe you're your lesson
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: of the day. I got nothing else to add. Title,
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: You got any final thoughts for this? Late?
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: No? You just thowt I asked Jeeves and may Siri
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: took all their business. Hey, instead of typing, just go hey, Siri,
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: what is.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: Euri took out Jeeves? Think about the game of clue,
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: who done it? Who did it? Like Jeeves in the
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: in the kitchen or wherever, you got to figure out
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: the rules. That's that's what happened.
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: I did not have a clue mentioned on my Bengo card,
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: but I love it. Never know what you're gonna get
- 1:10:26Speaker 5: on this show.
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: But now who hoop.
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: Covered fan do well? I think we walked through it
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: very clearly.
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: I know someone asked above, like, you can't play everyone
- 1:10:33Speaker 5: above seven K, who's your least favorite? I think I
- 1:10:35Speaker 5: made it clear. I'm gonna be most underweight on Henry.
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: But I played a lot more lineup so I can
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: play all of them, and I will again. I try
- 1:10:42Speaker 5: and build my individual lineups to make sense. I think
- 1:10:45Speaker 5: we talk good game theory, game scripts about certain guys,
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: the Hills, the Henrys of the world, defense, et cetera.
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: So good slate, I agree, and let's make some cheese.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for this one. Lots to do. Best
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: play on the slate. But Derrick Henry, you just said
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: you're going light on him. That's gonna be the massive
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: leverage spot on Lamar tonight. It's gonna be incredible stuff
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: and then we'll see how it goes. I tried that,
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: guess I didn't quite work out in the NBA suits.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: Curry shout up to my guy Sean Sullivan. He's in
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: there somewhere. I got the Curry side right, not the
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: tambo so or not the the Tatum side right. But hoop,
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: any final thoughts on this slate for you?
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: No, man, Let's start week ten off on a on
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: a high note and carry the momentum into the weekend.
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: I wasn't listening, but all I heard was play ravens
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: he and the Captain. So hey, that's who to take
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: for tonight. If that's what he likes, gotta listen to
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: do it.
- 1:11:31Speaker 4: Everybody, play them all jam.
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: It all right.
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. This was amazing. Love this chat.
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- 1:11:48Speaker 2: for title for myself, Totag and tambo Let Ship it.
- 1:12:06Speaker 4: Most have ends.
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: Mother and brothers died, and Monsie
- 1:12:16Speaker 4: Mother with them.