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OFSN 201: Commonwealth Recruiting Blueprint in 2021 · Boundary Corner Podcast

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The fields for the dirt. We don't even grow.
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I spent my morning just cleaning shit off your skin.
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This house is falling down. The beach.
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Bellas are poking out. It can ramble mother mold of
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Steel. Mr. Can attack.
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Welcome back in the boundary Corner podcast, along with Brian
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seagull of this is Curtis Wilson.
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What's going on, man. It's episode 3, man.
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How you been? Oh good man, good weekend,
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weekend treated me. Nice.
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Got to get to make some barbecue and enjoy this and some over to
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my pops in the new place, so it was a good time.
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We'll buy you all, we wrapped up basketball, season played
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Baseball with the kids in the neighborhood, getting ready for
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that and about a month here. So nice, relaxing weekend plus,
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you know, the weather Sunday was gorgeous, Saturday.
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It's freezing man. And, you know, watch some hoops
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a little bit of golf but overall great weekend in.
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And speaking of this weekend, we have to combine going on.
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Nope. Yeah, Brian and you just looked
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at what the next 60 days, hold as sports fans, May you got to
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give me the rundown because right now we're still in that
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Lake. It's not football season even
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though we got the XFL right now. So you got to give me the
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rundown to see. We got to look forward to.
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All right? So we just have to combine,
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right? Yep.
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Which were going to talk with Dalton key in a few minutes on
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that. All right, start in a couple
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weeks you get the conference tournaments basketball
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tournament. There we go.
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All over the place, then the madness starts early, release
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exactly, you know, No, I'm the golf nerd.
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The players in the Masters are on the Forefront.
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We got opening day in baseball. One of the best days of the year
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right there. Great day of the year, we got
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Spring football happening poke, start on the 21st spring games
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are happening. Spring game is going to be
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tape-delayed and on television this year, which is awesome
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because I know you're going to be out of town.
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I don't know if I'm gonna stay up to 10:30 and watch it but
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just knowing we can see the team play.
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It's going to be awesome. Definitely will.
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Maybe get some eyes on how the new ooh, alignments and stuff on
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defense. Whos playing.
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Whos not. And then we're going to cap it
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off in the legs in the 60 days with the NFL draft.
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So kind of football, season begins again.
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So the next 60 days, anybody telling you oh there's really
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nothing on. There's nothing sports to do
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know. They're so much so you know you
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know head out to your favorite bars, watch the tournaments.
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You know, if you get a chance we're probably not going to be
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able to Go down to Blacksburg spring game is one of the best
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experiences that you can go to. This circle is so cool.
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Just getting to see the players up close, getting to talk to
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them for a little bit after the game, get to see all the alumni
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and the old faces come back, come back into town and cut it
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up a little bit. It's nothing but a good sound.
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It is and it's and it's worth it if you're a Virginia Tech fans.
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An and you have that day available you know take the if
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it's just you and a buddy do that.
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If you can take the family and kids take it hit, downtown up,
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do a little tail gate and go into the stadium.
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It's free and did get on the field afterwards.
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And like Brian said, the the program really pushes the
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players to kind of stay around when we went, you know what?
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Five years ago. Now then 2015, I mean we met I
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am Adonis all these guys who were stars on the team and the
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Edmonds Brothers, the Edmonds Brothers.
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All three of them should post that picture.
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Biggest trick tree came back for the game.
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Exactly, it's just an experience worth going to and these other
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sporting events, watch them, enjoy them.
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It's a lot of fun. But the first thing that really
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kicked this off was the combine and man our boy Dalton Rambo, he
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tore it up. Up towards solutely, did had a
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great showing it to me, his take doesn't lie, he is a football
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player. I think what he did for himself
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is probably solidified that he's going to get drafted, he
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definitely solidified. He's going to get drafted.
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Then he made a push to say I might be able to get taken at
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the back end of day two, if the right fit is there and I think
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that's something that Didn't really think was even going to
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be a possibility going into it, just because of his skill set,
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being a little more Niche. But I think putting all those
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measurables together. I think, maybe cause some eyes,
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or some of those teams that may say, Hey, you know, we might
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want to take a chance on this guy even if even in the third
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round or something like that, if the, you know, the timing is
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right. Yeah.
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Well let me do the thumb for those who, if you haven't seen
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it on Twitter or went to the on FL comments, I will do a quick
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rundown Down what he did 21 reps and the bench, which I think was
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fourth, 47 140, which was third. Correct me if I'm wrong on his
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worst event was the vertical leap at 34 inches.
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I think he was like 9th or 10th three comb 7.07.
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Again, using that top five range.
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Now, the two events he really excelled at the broad.
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Jump 100, 25 inches. Which was best among the tight
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ends. Yep.
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In the one for me, where it showed Elite in all forms
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because he is on the on one on the first two pages, top of the
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20-yard shuttle at four point one nine seconds from real
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quick, kind of explain for a tight end having that Elite
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Shuttle time. What it what it says, two
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coaches like that because he was he's in there with some white
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out since Stuff where it's kind of like, whoa.
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We talked about, you know, being able to change direction that's
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going to come in handy on if there's some sort of scramble
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drill when the quarterbacks and trouble being able to change
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directions, real quick and get to the spot get open.
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It's going to be handy on those angle routes that you had talked
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about in episode 2, things that he has really shown chilling out
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on film already. That, you know, he can show one
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thing and then all of a sudden you know he's cutting across the
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middle of the field into that into that void and once he gets
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the His hands. He's so good at making making
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people miss and breaking tackles for a guy, his size.
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So, you know, I think that we're definitely looking at.
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Like I said, the stocks definitely Rising after that
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combine performance and, you know, talking about the shuttle
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but also talking about the broad Jim, I mean there's a lot of
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what we think about blocking from a tight end position.
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You know the explosiveness for the broad jump.
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A lot of that is tied to the explosiveness of At the point of
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contact when you block. So, you know, those things
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definitely definitely showed that he's got that exposed as an
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ability to like we talked about finished blocks and be able to
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make really good contact at the point of attack.
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Absolutely, I'm really interested to see, you know,
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about, I guess. We'll be about a month here at
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his pro day down at Virginia Tech and then kind of see where
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he gets interviewed. You know, the combine everybody
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can interview you, but it's, those sort of second ones where,
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teens might fly you out because it's like, we need to know more.
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Going to be interested to see how that, how that happens for
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him over the next two months here.
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Ben Curtis wants a trip to Santa Clara I don't know.
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Yes well I mean you know I looked at Cal juice check come a
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49ers fan Hokie nation and is similar numbers to juice.
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Check now juice check was a full back in college.
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We're dying was Dalton was more of a you know tight in HVAC but
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some of the stuff he does I can see it translating to us but we
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don't know. Brian, did you catch the Brock
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Hart hit series. You know, I did, you know I did.
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What do you think, man? Love to production.
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Another again, let's let's get the personalities out there.
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So my biggest takeaway and what I'd loved from watching that and
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I was tweeting about it. I know some people are called on
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to that but just things kind of going south in terms of his
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eligibility and how he really pivoted to being that off the
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field leader last year for that team.
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And that's what really stuck with me doing all that.
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Because that's, that's hard. When when you're used to playing
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and you're used to being the guy that is out there in the alpha
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role and showing it on the field and showing it on game day and
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all of a sudden you have to take a new role, the fact that he was
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able to blossom into that so fast and get and gain all the
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respect from guys in the Locker room right out the gate that
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says something about his character and says something
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about his ability to lead and the fact that we're going to
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start getting some of that on the field this year, just
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thinking it's got me height, agree on something else on that.
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I want to say about brought me and Brian, luckily had an
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interaction with him at the pit game after the game was over.
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We sort of walk down behind the Virginia Tech bench, just kind
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of set their dapping up guys, me and him chitchat looking around.
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Round and Brock is if he can remember Brian, he was probably,
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I don't know 10 or 12 feet on the field on the field.
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So they've even gave me some further and actually probably
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passed us in terms of yeah or field of view and me and Brian
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were called we called out free broadcasting and he stops and he
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like, gives us the thing and he stops again and he came over, he
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took his time to walk all the way over.
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You know, we sort of said hey you know, good luck.
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Next year, can you know, we're glad you're here.
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Adapt us up, gave us a couple minutes, talks and then walked
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in, but when you have something like that where he could have
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just did the fist bump and do that that made our day him
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walking over and talking to us and kids Special that bloop is
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going to be nasty because I think his mentality you saw some
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of the think it was Silas right? Or you can see in silence like
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these guys want to go kill people, to put it lightly and I
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think him coming into that group.
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The competition's going to get higher.
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And I think the group was very good last year in very young.
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I think we're going to be, I don't, I'm not going to say
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Elite this year, but we're going to be borderlining on that.
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If everybody takes the steps coach Vice, I mean, he's really
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going to have some options because he's gonna have about
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six or seven guys that have seen significant snaps weather for
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the Hokies or in Brock's case for Coastal just coming in And
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guys, they can lean on and just put together the best five out
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of that experience group. And that's going to be something
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that, you know, he really didn't have, he hasn't really had it
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hit during his time at in Blacksburg.
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So I'm excited to see what the finished product is going to
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look. Like, we've got so many young
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guys that played significant snaps last year and then, we've
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got a couple of Veteran, guys, anchoring The Tackle positions.
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So I'm really interested to see how they end up shaking out the
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starting five but I mean having seven like I said, seven guys
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that have starting potential going into the season is pretty
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incredible. Yeah.
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And that's going to make the depth gray and that's going to
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make the competition. Unbelievable, one more thing.
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Before we get into the day's topics, thus California to VC
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movement and I'm going to, I'm going to say my perspective was
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like this, I saw it, we giving offers that's cool, you know.
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But then we'll all there some milk Midnight Madness.
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Some guy showed up. I'm like that's cool.
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Probably two or three guys know. Brian.
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You looked a little closer and you texted me like not all how
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many good man, it was. It was a whole busload, man.
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They were just, I was, I was like, I didn't even think that
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was something that we would, we would see.
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Like I said, we heard the quiet Rumblings and things on Twitter.
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Like, okay, California to VT and all of a sudden, you know, we
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Got this whole crew there in Lane stadium and midnight
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medicine. I'm like oh man, that that's
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some that's some special stuff. And you know, they're getting
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likely from that perspective and experience it that they can't.
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You just can't be replicated anywhere.
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I'd say definitely not the Pac-12.
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So you're right out the gate that's got to be.
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That's got to be a big impression on them.
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And we're kind of putting our best foot forward with that.
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It Interesting to see where it goes.
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If we can land any of them, one of them.
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I mean, at this point stretching, our footprint is not
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going to hurt. I mean, casting a wider net.
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You know, we get some more recognition across the across
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the whole country versus just in our region.
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So I don't think it's a problem there, especially since we're
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starting to see some of the recruiting resources climb a
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little bit, which, as we have said in a couple episodes past
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that, that's definitely something we like to see.
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Absolutely. All right, so guys, what we're
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going to be looking at today is we got see a 2 V T, but we're
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going to be looking at Virginia. We're going to be breaking down
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kind of the overall. What?
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Recruiting looks like in Virginia, this year, where the
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Elite Talent is some of the names, things like that, for the
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what we consider the elite of elite guys, four guys in the
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top. 10 Brian did some video breakdown.
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So, you know, this is going to be thinking about guys that play
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in live near you. We're going to give you some
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more info on them so we'll start that out right now.
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Braun the 2021 Virginia High School class.
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There's only one word for its Elite.
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Big time, man, big time. So you know, as we as I started
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kind of looking through some of the recruits and Where we, you
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know, where they are. I want to kind of give a
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breakdown. Like who are the Hokies
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recruiting? Are we not offering guys?
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Because after 2020, you know everybody, we didn't get anybody
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got one guy in state looking Rudolph and now it's like what's
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going on. You know, why?
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We recruit the state of Virginia?
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Well, that's you just won an appeal and straight or one the
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peeling in State this year. Let me just say looking at some
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of the numbers. It is definitely.
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We are trying to get the state this year.
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So I'm looking at just the top 20 Braun.
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And okay, we have offered 14 of the top 20 players in the state.
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That sounds more like a Virginia Tech recruiting push in the
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state than what we saw last year.
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Absolutely. I mean, you know, 70% of the
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class, all varieties of positions.
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So, you know, I think last year again, like, kind of like the
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20/20 class in general. It was just that weird cycle.
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And I think we're back to more of what we do in the state.
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Now, looking at these 20, guys, and again, Just to kind of throw
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you the difference between lasting this year.
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Seven of those guys are in the top 24/7.
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I've told you guys before I think, 247, Sports does a great
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job. I think how they break the guys
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down, how they rank them, how they're consistently moving them
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up and down, based on their skill level, their size, offered
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us and so on. But there are seven this year in
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the state and Compared to the last year.
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I think it was. What to the top two guys wore in
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the top 24/7. Yeah, yeah.
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So we were looking at the two guys that we that we worked on
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last year with were the only two that they're really cracked the
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24/7 there. So yeah, right now you guys kind
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of wondering. Well so we only offered, we've
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offered 20, you know, 14 of the top 20 who didn't, we offer, and
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want to give you their names positions and where they are.
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Just just so you maybe get an idea.
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Is it a position where he committed on?
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Or are there bigger dogs out there?
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As we look into this further? The first guy I'm going to look
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at is trim Atkins. He is out of Clintwood, VA
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Ridgewood High School 61 195 athlete.
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I'm just looking at that body frame type and that tells me
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probably whiteout or defensive back, doesn't give the full
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breakdown. Next guy, is James Gillespie,
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6-foot to 300 pounds. Of tackle at a Woodbridge, you
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know, body type seems they're not offered yet again.
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There are things probably behind the scenes, we don't know, we
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don't know their grades, we don't know the fit but not
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offered yet. Another one, Trevon green
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six-foot-seven 367 found offensive tackle out of Colonial
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Heights like Christian Academy. I would say just looking at his
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size not seeing any tape, he sounds like more of a motive.
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Motor grader type offensive. Lineman as you know Brian from
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looking at a lot of the tape. We're not looking for the huge
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linemen to push the pile. We're looking more athletic
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guys. Next couple guys, need Evans 61
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175, again listed as an athlete out of cocks down.
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VB he's already committed to Tennessee, I don't have his
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commitment date. So my apologies for not having
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the research there, but again, you see that fit?
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You think defensive back wide receiver?
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And Jay wolfert 6-1 200-pound Jewel threat quarterback out of
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Richmond. Benedictine already committed to
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UVA. So, out of the six guys that are
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in the top 20, 20 minutes committed, a couple of them are
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athletes at positions. That as Brian, you can see
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what's on the board. This year, we might have already
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thrown a number of offers out. What do you think?
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I think the big thing is the number of offers we already
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thrown out at those positions and combine that with with fit,
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I mean I think that's going to be the biggest thing as far as
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those guys that we didn't offer, particularly some of the
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defensive backs. We're already looking at a
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couple guys at the top of that list at that position, you know,
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the further we get down in the top 20.
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I don't think we're going to necessarily, just keep offering
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guys down the list, especially in the same.
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State and then the quarterback that's at UVA regardless of that
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situation. You know we had a very early
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commitment from from D there so I don't think that's really any
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comparison there and I think we got the better end of that that
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exchange. So I'm not concerned about that
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at all. So yeah, just think I think
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we're looking at probably a combination of fit.
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Maybe some personality things that just don't quite quite
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bash. And obviously guys, we have
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maybe already made offers to A little bit further up the the
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totem pole for us, in terms of what we want to do and you say
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what we want to do. Because just and again I've
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looked further than the top 20 in VA.
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There are some guys 20 to 30 range.
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The biggest one is Jalen's Stroman.
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Greg Stone, his brother. He's offered you know the other
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guys and that 20 to 30 range in the Virginia that maybe fit what
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we want to do and we've offered them versus the guys in the top
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20. Maybe per our coaches eyes.
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These guys get better. The big December Stroman there.
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I'll say was strong and because we're talking about what we're
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trying to do. You know we have really started
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to hang our Hat on at least at the skill position, versatile
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players, whether it's guys that can play, you know, Whip and
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Rover where it's guys are going to play Corner safety.
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I mean, we're looking at trying to get more versatile on
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defense. When we look at offense, we're
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looking at guys that can play, you know, do stuff in the chat.
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We do stuff from the wing, but also split out wide, and just
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run your traditional route tree. So, I think the versatility is,
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what we've really been hanging our hat on from a skill position
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perspective. And so I think some of that
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Strickland down into some of how we're recruiting some of these
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players. Oh, that's lutely.
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And I think you're 100% right on that.
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The other thing I look at Brian, you know, we as the state,
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everybody likes to beat their chest, right 75.
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So, yeah, I know. Let's hear the echo from where
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the best part this year. You look at the top 20 guys and
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it's a it's crazy how this breaks down, but you're looking
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at of the top 27 from the 75 76 or from the 80 46, or from Nova.
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And one is from the southwestern part of the state.
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So what this tells me, we all like to beat our chest about
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where we live and the kids that play there.
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But what this tells me is the state of Nia is a well-balanced,
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take their here. There are talented, guys, in
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every Corridor and leave no stone unturned.
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And as we've seen through, you know, side of the offer list,
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they're not. They have offered guys in every
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sector so does that shock you in anyway?
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Brian from coaching in the high school ranks or this is what
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Virginia is. We are very well balanced state.
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It is good more. So I'd say in probably the last
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decade or so in the last decade or so I've really seen Nova and
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the 804 really step up their game relative to what when used
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to be going on with 75 70 75. I don't think there's been any
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drop-off and 757. I just think that those other
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regions have started to catch up a little bit and they're really
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given 757 Run for the money and so I think that's what you're
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seeing is that there's a lot more balance across the state as
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you said. Ed in this in this prospect game
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now and I think some of that's just coming coming from the 804
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and Nova catching up on some of the things that the 757 was
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doing 10 15 years ago. And I think they're starting to
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do that in the 804 and start to do that Nova now and it's really
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paid some dividends. Yeah 100% And also the guys who
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are coming back you think Lauren Johnson over at Highland
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Springs. If you think about the Louis guy
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going down, the They're guys who played at different levels, that
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are coming back to the 804 and they're going back to the 757
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there guys up in Nova great coaches.
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But it, you're right, Brian. It has kind of trickled and I
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think that's good for Virginia Tech as a program because if
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it's all over the place, there's no one hot bed.
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So for us, it's get the guys you want from those particular
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areas. Now I'm going to say this, I
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said at the beginning Elite Eat. You want to hear how Ali run
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about? Let's go for a top three players
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in the state. So the top three players in the
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state as follows. They are Tristan Lee.
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The offensive tackle about a Nova, he got a huge bump
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recently. He is the number for offensive
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tackle in the country. In the country, not in the state
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in the entire country and I know Brian.
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You're going to do some break down a little while in these
25:05
guys but let me just more elite elite part of this class.
25:09
Oh yeah. Treyvion Henderson down at hope
25:13
will help because the number two, running back, not in the
25:16
state in the country in the country country, and that's
25:24
where 24/7 Rob will put Henderson at one a couple days
25:27
ago. So, In Elite, and clearly the
25:32
the top dog number one, in the state.
25:34
Number one quarterback in the country, number six, overall, in
25:38
the country, The Joker, Tony Grimes.
25:42
Number one in the country. Do all three of these guys are
25:46
top 20 in the country in the country.
25:51
Literally what that is saying is for any of these three guys, if
25:56
you get on, it's almost Active of day one, they're going to
26:00
come in and play. Oh yeah.
26:02
Any high-capacity. So Brian is you know there's one
26:07
other guy too and I just saw this a few minutes ago.
26:10
You know naquan Brown's not down the number 10 defensive end in
26:13
the country. That's crazy man, that's crazy.
26:17
So we talked about it earlier, you know, and one of our podcast
26:22
last year wasn't a great year for the state this year a lead
26:26
of elite and We'll move to here is Brian, has actually looked
26:32
the four guys that just mentioned.
26:34
Brian is actually looked at the tape and done a little Scouting
26:37
Report. So we're going to move on to
26:39
that next. All right, Brian.
26:42
Let's start with maquon brown, Ocean.
26:46
Lakes VB6 3205 defensive end. What you see on this text,
26:52
right? So, the biggest thing I'm seeing
26:53
about the quad Brown, we're looking at an elite Edge rusher.
26:58
He can Get off the ball and he can beat you with speed over the
27:02
edge. He's really strong relative to
27:04
his weight. Actually, I saw him take on a
27:06
number of double teams on tape. Never seem to get overpowered on
27:10
those, even giving up a bunch of weight.
27:13
The biggest thing that I liked was when looking at running
27:17
game, especially when he was on the backside is that he was
27:20
really good at getting flattened fast in inrush Pursuit from the
27:24
backside. So he was able to walk down a
27:26
bunch of plays going away from him.
27:28
Because of his Pursuit angle because it'd be getting a really
27:31
good read at the snap of the football.
27:35
So piggybacking on that he diagnoses please quickly, he
27:39
attacks me and he trusts his instincts.
27:42
He did a really good job of knocking the offensive lineman's
27:46
hands down and pass plays plays fast but disciplined.
27:53
You know, he's going to need some weight.
27:54
Probably to be an every down player at the power 5 level.
27:59
But I think out the gate, you can probably see him as an
28:02
immediate contributor on special teams and probably some select
28:06
packages on defense. All right, now when you're
28:09
talking about the hands and stuff so you feel technique-wise
28:13
football IQ eyes, he's there? Yeah.
28:16
So he's definitely a guy that knows both knows his technique
28:21
but also is has really good instincts, and is able to put
28:26
that technique into practice and plays really.
28:30
Let me ask this because the way it is, the concern 2005.
28:33
You know, you don't see any guys at the D1 level, play it that
28:39
way July's, a big Camp time so that's about five months from
28:43
now. Where would you want to see his
28:45
weight be at come July. When he comes to maybe the Tech
28:50
camp or some of the other you know can see some more bleep
28:52
Prospect going to the Under Armour camps going to the rivals
28:55
camps. What would you like to see his
28:56
way that in four to five months? I definitely like to see you at
29:00
least put on 10 pounds in that time.
29:02
If he can get up to the to 15, maybe even to 20 range, I think
29:06
we're looking at, you know, moving in the right direction,
29:09
I'm especially considering he hasn't been in a college weight
29:12
program yet. And that, you know, once he gets
29:14
to Blacksburg will probably will be good to probably put on
29:17
another. Another 10 pounds at least over
29:20
over what is being done now. But I think if he can get at
29:24
least 10 more on him before he comes in, that would be, that
29:27
would go a long way to Helping his his prospects as far as
29:30
getting on the field year, one understood?
29:34
Alright, next guy, I want us to take a look at our, you took a
29:37
look at. I should say, probably a guy
29:39
he'll be competing against potentially in some of these
29:42
camps and for us, Hokies we hope they're competing.
29:46
You know, next fall against one another in Camp, Tristan, Lee
29:50
the offensive tackle, the guy got the huge bump this week
29:55
Robinson. Secondary School fair fight.
29:58
Max, 65 to 75 what you see on him, you know, looking at this
30:04
tape there is nothing that I could really point to and say, I
30:08
don't like that. I mean this guy can in can
30:10
really do it. Also the biggest thing I saw
30:13
right out the gate, he has a nasty Gene.
30:16
This guy's not happy until he puts the guy he's blocking on
30:19
his back. He finishes blocks he has great
30:23
dry block technique. He does a good job of making
30:27
contact with power. And then keep running his feet
30:29
until his man's finished. What I also liked is that on on
30:34
down blocks where the play is going off of him.
30:37
He does a great job of spreading the holes so he's not just
30:41
blocking the man in his Gap. He's moving moving.
30:44
The defender out of the Gap, creating a bigger hole for the
30:47
running back to get through. That's the biggest things.
30:51
I like from a technique perspective, when I was looking
30:53
at his, his film on huddle, I didn't see a ton of past Pro
30:57
because the offense that he is in high school, they run a lot
31:00
of wing T and Pro Set and occasionally will go to like a
31:04
Spread spread option, run offense, when they go and
31:08
shotgun but they don't do a ton of passing but I did go and look
31:12
at some of his rival camps tape and he's got a really good pass
31:17
set. He has a great great punch.
31:20
So he stops the, the momentum of the defender.
31:22
So moves his feet. Well, so I like I said, really,
31:25
there's nothing that I could say bad about it, especially as a
31:28
prospect coming coming out of high school.
31:31
Let me ask this concerning. You talk about the nasty Gene
31:33
and finishing blocks. When you see, or when you
31:36
coached guys, who wouldn't finish blocks unlike this guy?
31:40
What's, what is where does that concern?
31:42
You where it's not a concern for this guy, but maybe there's some
31:45
other guys were recruiting that. You don't see that what concerns
31:48
you when you don't see a guy. Finishing, I think the big thing
31:52
is that you don't want a guy that's just going to get to his
31:54
spot and be be happy with with area blocking a guy because
32:00
eventually that guy's going to keep going and try to make a
32:02
play Down feel. Now, when you're talking about a
32:05
guy, that's finishing a Blog that means, they are taking that
32:08
player out of making a potential tackle, whether it's at the
32:11
point of attack or whether it's 10 or 15 yards downfield.
32:14
So if he's finishing the block that means that guy is not able
32:18
to make a play. Something else as an offensive
32:24
line coach, not seeing you saw the tape, you said you felt good
32:27
about the way he looked and Rivals Camp but does it still
32:30
give you some worry about? Not seeing a guy with a lot of
32:34
live action pass Pro where I do say in these camps you think he
32:40
can kind of see what's coming where compared to in a live game
32:43
if they run a stunt or if they run Slants little different than
32:47
knowing? Well this guy's either going to
32:48
try a bull or he's going to try. You know, bending get underneath
32:52
me. Does that concern you?
32:53
Or is it more? He so refined that the running
32:56
aspects, he's such a. You see plays hard?
32:59
He come in. This is what we can work on.
33:01
Well, he seems to be a guy with a high football IQ from the
33:04
tape. I'm watching, it doesn't look
33:05
like he's ever out of position or anything like that.
33:07
So, I'm thinking he can pick up on past pass protection, call
33:13
nature, that that would come into play if there are those
33:16
stunts and inputs, but yeah, you're right.
33:18
There is the CERN of this guy probably hasn't seen a ton, a
33:22
ton of of looks where guys are coming it from multiple angles
33:27
at him so that that could be an area of concern.
33:30
But just looking at the tape when you're looking at these
33:33
Rebel camps, generally the drills do kind of favor the
33:39
defensive lineman more, because there's more room to work than
33:42
there would be in a normal game situation.
33:46
And also most of the time, you know, the Your nose, either the
33:50
snap or can anticipate the snap? It's not like a live game, so
33:54
offensive. Lineman is a lot easier in those
33:56
situations and he's still out there handling.
33:58
Some of the guys that are Elite at that defensive end position,
34:02
so that gives me encouragement. So, like I said, the biggest
34:04
thing is going to be, can he figure out those calls on the
34:08
Fly and I think you can based on just looking at his as tapings
34:12
and knowing that I think he's a guy that can pick up things
34:14
pretty quick, right? Thanks for educating us on, you
34:17
know about always someone to take some things that are done.
34:19
Those camps. So when we look at it we get an
34:22
idea to say okay doing the right things or the guys were looking
34:26
at are doing the right things. Alright next number one corner
34:30
in the country. Tony Grimes Princess Day in
34:32
Virginia, six foot 180. Sounds like a perfect corner to
34:35
me. What do you see from The Joker?
34:41
You know, he's think they might be the Joker with this kid is no
34:43
joke on the feet. He has a nose for the football
34:48
and that's what we like to see in her.
34:50
Nation. That's what the lunch pail
34:51
defense has always been about. That's what Beamer ball is.
34:54
Always been about news for the football, and once he gets the
34:58
turnover he loves to take it to the house.
34:59
He's not somebody that's going to settle with just getting the
35:01
turnover and you know, first Contact he's going down, he's
35:05
trying to get into the end zone so that that's what we like to
35:07
see. He's got a great blend of size
35:10
and speed. I know you kind of talked about
35:11
the, the size there in the speed, is there as well.
35:14
He's, he's both fast and quick which is what you like to see
35:19
because he can move, Move move laterally, he's got fluid hip,
35:22
so you can change direction. Well, he lined up all over the
35:26
secondary on his high school team Corner, nickel safety.
35:32
So he's a very versatile Defender which is what we've
35:36
been talking about. We like to see some versatility
35:38
guys, being able to, you know, attack for multiple positions.
35:41
The guys being able to Blitz from the corner position Blitz,
35:43
from the safety, Blitz from the nickel.
35:45
So, this is a guy that can do that for us.
35:48
Good at, said, in the edge in the Run in a willing tackle when
35:51
it when the scheme is calling for him to set the edge, he does
35:55
a good job of squeezing the Gap and enforcing the action back
35:58
inside, so he doesn't get get pinned in to get some.
36:02
Let some of those big runs get to the edge.
36:05
He played a lot of offense to so that means he's probably got
36:08
some pretty good hands which means if the ball is thrown in
36:11
his Direction and he's there, he's going to catch it.
36:13
He's got to make that play. Yeah, everything I saw he was
36:17
really great in man. Coverage.
36:21
He gets in the receivers pocket and stays there when he does,
36:26
occasionally get full, he recovers.
36:28
Well, think about think about a Kindle Fuller when when he did
36:32
get fooled, what did he do? So well, he got to the recovery
36:36
spot and was still able to make a play on the ball.
36:38
And that's what, that's what Tony crimes does when he does
36:41
get fooled. But again, from what I'm seeing
36:43
on tape, that's of, that's a very rare occasion as well.
36:45
So nothing but good things about him.
36:47
And I think think we're going to see some Some really, really
36:51
incredible, play from him, whether we end up Landing or we
36:54
go somewhere else. All right, where do you want to
36:56
play? If he commits to Virginia, Tech,
36:59
he's definitely Corner, maybe eventually a boundary Corner.
37:04
Ha ha. Hey, all right.
37:08
But but you see from him day one, if whether it be germane
37:11
Waller, Caleb Farley, I don't, I think one of those guys will be
37:16
there next year. I don't think both, but you see
37:18
them coming in competing. ASAP with the respect of other
37:22
side of the corner. He's that good.
37:23
He's that technically sound. He's that much of an elite
37:27
player where similar to Kendall Fuller brand and face on coming
37:31
in freshman playing right away and contributing right away,
37:36
he's too good. Not to have him on the field.
37:39
A good majority of the snaps on defense, it's awesome that
37:43
you're probably going to be doing yourself a disservice, not
37:45
getting him out there. That's great to hear.
37:49
All right, let's go with the last guy on your list, frying,
37:55
treyvion Henderson down at Hopewell in the 80 4511. 195 is
38:02
he every every offensive lineman's dream to block for.
38:09
Yeah, he's the guy that you know, patient at the point of
38:12
attack and reads us blocks well, so he's not just going in there.
38:16
Whatever is aiming. Is you know, sticking it in
38:19
there and sometimes you know as offensive lineman things change
38:23
at the snap of the ball and he's he does a very good job of
38:25
changing with that going with the blocks reading those blocks,
38:29
and then just exploding through the whole once it opens up, he's
38:32
got home run speed. Once he's at the second level,
38:35
which is what we like to see. We like to hit those long play
38:38
as we like to make some big plays on offense, he's great at
38:42
making people miss. So he runs through arm tackles
38:45
and he's good at turning. Nothing into something, which I
38:48
think is sometimes important for us, especially with, with the
38:52
scheme that we have. There's going to occasionally be
38:54
penetration and he does a good job of making people miss and
39:01
finding the lame or the alley. Even when you know that point of
39:05
attack gets shut down. Great, it changed Direction and
39:11
accelerating. He was also used in the slot a
39:15
lot for his high school. So you know, I think you're
39:19
going to see a guy that has the ability to do is Swing passes
39:24
screens, run a wheel route, things like that, he's a guy
39:28
that can definitely is used to catching the ball.
39:31
He also ran some of the, the Wildcat formations for them and
39:34
go live situations, or short, yardage situations.
39:38
So he's comfortable. With the ball in his hands at
39:40
the snap as well. There wasn't a ton of highlights
39:46
showing your straight up the gut run.
39:49
So I'm not sure how he is kind of, on those inside zones, in
39:52
between the outside shoulder of the Guard threw into the center.
39:57
They, mostly were running some outside Zone and sweeps and
40:01
things of that nature. So, he did run more inside when
40:05
he was with the wild cat stuff on the short yardage.
40:07
So, in those aspects, you know, you know, you can run up in
40:11
those a gaps and get the job done.
40:13
Done. But I did see a ton of that when
40:16
they were running their more traditional offensive sets, let
40:19
me ask this with him. Working in the slot is something
40:23
that we can use to our advantage and recruiting talking about the
40:27
jet sweeps. I mean, is that something to
40:29
say, trivia on you come here you're going to get the carries
40:32
from the backfield, but we're going to give you an opportunity
40:35
to hear your first year to you're going to be our slot.
40:37
You can be one of our slot, guys, taking some of those
40:39
sweets, and you talked about talked about a couple times, As
40:43
when those sweeps are blocked correctly, a guy with home runs
40:47
feed. Good night.
40:51
Exactly. And I, you know, I like the
40:53
points you make there because I think that's going to be
40:56
something where if we're not in a situation where we can say,
41:00
hey, we can guarantee you're going to be our number one, a
41:04
bag, but they're definitely going to get some carries.
41:06
You're going to be, at least a few, have a featured role of the
41:08
offense, even if it's not something that is that, you
41:13
know, one a roll. So I think that's going to be
41:16
key in terms of trying to get him to stay home.
41:20
I see so Brian can can we land all four of these guys?
41:26
I think we can. I think we have the potential to
41:29
do that. Now we are getting some Some
41:33
major run on, especially on Grimes.
41:36
And on in, on Henderson Clemson's, making a big push, it
41:40
Henderson and George's down there is, is pushing really hard
41:44
for Tony. So those are going to be our two
41:47
biggest, our two, biggest opponents for the, the top two
41:51
guys there. I think we've got a really,
41:54
really good chance at the Quan Brown.
41:56
Interestingly, I think those are the guys that I feel really
42:00
comfortable with us being able to close the deal on How
42:04
important is it to getting the first Domino to fall to Landing
42:10
all for getting one of these guys become it.
42:13
Let's say between now in the middle of summer, how big would
42:16
that be to Landing off of work? I think that would go a long way
42:20
because it would build on what the kind of that momentum that
42:25
we got with Demetrius committed. We would start building seeing
42:29
some of that tidal wave start pushing in our direction.
42:32
And, you know, people, Start saying, you know, it's not just
42:35
a one-off. We've got all these big names
42:37
are starting to say, hey, I want to go to Blacksburg and make
42:40
something special happen this year.
42:43
Now, I'll throw this one at you man.
42:47
Do you think if we land at least two of these guys, is that good
42:50
enough? No, it shouldn't be good enough
42:53
Lanie to shouldn't be good enough.
42:55
All four should be the target. These are four guys in state
43:01
that we've recruited what it appears to be very well.
43:04
So far, each position was, let's just kind of go through each
43:07
position, always need Edge rushers, Right.
43:13
Oh absolutely. You don't have enough of them.
43:15
Yeah Tristan Lee, he's an offensive tackle and some people
43:17
say that's our strength. We have a lot of really good
43:19
players there. One of those really good players
43:22
is Christian day, assault Christian Daris all has another
43:24
season, like he did his first two, he will not be around,
43:27
twenty Twenty-One, he will be in the NFL.
43:30
I agree. Tony grab.
43:32
It's a similar situation for Tony if Jermaine and Caleb
43:35
continue their Trend one, if not both of those guys will be in
43:40
the NFL next year. And there it is.
43:43
It's you want to start. Here's your Prime opportunity in
43:48
treyvion Henderson. We don't have a 1A back.
43:51
Even this year, we're looking at Herbert in probably King
43:55
Herbert's going after next year. So the Playtime is there.
43:59
I don't see this as a situation where it's worth, so loaded at
44:02
any of these four positions that that should be on the table.
44:09
Blanding for should be the Target and I'll probably be
44:14
dissatisfied as we land just to, okay.
44:16
And okay, man. Yeah, can I can I throw a little
44:20
little factoid that you though? Go for it.
44:22
All right, so just throw it through this out there.
44:25
When was the last time we landed?
44:27
At least two of the top five prospects in the state of
44:29
Virginia. Well hasn't been recently, um
44:33
I'd say 07 tie rod. All right, so it was actually
44:37
2009 was the last time So that was Logan and David.
44:42
Hold on. You aren't married.
44:44
I weren't married. We had no kids.
44:46
We didn't have houses. Yeah, that's a long time ago.
44:50
Yes. So this isn't a recent Trend
44:55
with us not being able and that the top five talent in the
44:57
state. This is something that goes back
44:59
a while we landed. We actually had back-to-back
45:01
years, 2008 and 09, we did land two of the top five players in
45:06
the state and then we haven't been able to do But since I
45:09
think before that, I can't remember the last time we land
45:13
at more than two to be honest with you, I wasn't able to find
45:15
the stats on that. So if we end up letting 4E with,
45:20
you wouldn't just be you know, really damn good.
45:23
It would be something that's pretty much unprecedented in the
45:26
last at least, 15 years of hokey football history.
45:30
So while it's definitely something that we want to set as
45:35
a goal and try to achieve, it would be Fairly unprecedented
45:40
from if we were able to pull it off.
45:42
But I think we could probably go back and look how many times has
45:44
it been four guys at Fourth various positions?
45:48
It's not like two defensive backs or two running backs where
45:52
we're not gonna get both of these guys.
45:53
And I really think if I'm going to say this, in the sense of
45:58
college, football, ACC football wheel, and all four of these
46:01
guys and take back the state, the way, we're starting to
46:04
create a nation wide footprint down into Texas.
46:07
If you guys haven't seen the last few days, we're making
46:10
offers two guys in California. Which is just unprecedented for
46:14
what we've done throughout our lifetime as fans but to take
46:19
back your state in to that could say something not only do the
46:24
kids in state, but potentially to a more Nationwide audience of
46:28
you don't go in there and take the top dogs.
46:31
If they've got spots where they can play, you're not going to
46:33
get them. So that's what I'd like to see
46:35
happen and essentially get back to where we were 03 04, 05 a
46:41
week. Pretty much if we wanted them
46:43
and they were in state. They weren't leaving.
46:45
Exactly. Exactly.
46:48
So we'll move on. So, we're going to throw out a
46:50
Twitter poll. And the question is going to be
46:55
because of all the Elite Talent hospitalized in the state of
46:59
Virginia this year. Are you more likely to go see a
47:04
high school football game? Where one of these guys are
47:07
playing and not just the guys, we discussed.
47:09
But there are guys all over the state so respond to us.
47:14
Tell us. Yeah, tell us where tell us, who
47:17
you look forward to seeing on that.
47:19
Well that's going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary
47:23
Corner podcast will let our buddy.
47:25
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47:33
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