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S1E23 - 'This Is the Color of My Dreams' · Dished at Birth

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  DANI: Guys, I got a dog in our spring break.
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  KARA: Yeah, huge
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  news.
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  DANI: So, and she is in the room with us right
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  now and you are going to be hearing some sounds.
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  Once she is fine being left alone, you'll hear
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  less of her.
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  KARA: Yeah. She's outside the door hitting
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  the mic a little bit right now.
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  DANI: Yeah, just a little.
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  KARA: But the best thing is she's the cutest thing
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  I've ever seen.
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  DANI: She's up there with Piper.
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  KARA: Two
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  cute gals.
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  DANI: Two evil twins. How are you good?
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  KARA: Good.
• 0:27
  DANI: How was your spring break?
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  KARA: I went to Portland.
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  That was really fun. I went with Sarit. Hi, Sarit.
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  DANI: Hey, Sarit.
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  KARA: Stayed there with her family for
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  Passover, and I had a great time. Did a lot of thrifting.
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  Yeah, Portland was delightful. We went to a Deaf
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  event there. That was really fun.
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  DANI: Oh, my God.
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  Tell them about the, were they Mormons?
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  KARA: Oh, my
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  God, yeah. There were two Mormons there and one
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  Jehovah's Witness attempting to convert the poor
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  Deaf people. Yeah, attempting to convert the
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  poor Deaf people of Portland, Oregon. The Mormons,
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  I think, stayed to themselves, but the Jehovah's
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  Witness approached Sarit and I and A and a couple
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  of others. We were sitting at a table. And she
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  was like, you should come to this event, some
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  church event. And it was like in two days. And
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  I signed, sorry, I'm not going to be here. And
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  then she was basically like, but you have to.
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  Like Jesus died for your sins. You need to come
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  to this Easter thing.
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  DANI: Girl, my sins? I don't
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  know about my sins.
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  KARA: We're here for Passover,
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  guys. And then we got into — not with this woman.
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  She ended up leaving. Her name was like Miss
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  Honey or something, but not like Matilda. It
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  was like — she had this crazy name. It was like—
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  DANI: I had such a crush on Miss Honey. Have we talked
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  about this on the podcast? I think we have.
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  KARA: We
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  have, but she's the opposite of Miss Honey.
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  DANI: Ugh,
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  Miss Honey's Wario.
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  KARA: She introduced herself
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  like that, and we were like, okay. But then—
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  DANI: She introduced herself as the opposite of Miss
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  Honey?
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  KARA: Basically. But—
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  DANI: She said, I'm ugly and
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  I'm not going to take in any orphans.
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  KARA: Apparently,
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  a lot of religious people learned sign to try
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  to take in Deaf people into their church.
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  DANI: Yes,
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  I get that content on Instagram reels.
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  KARA: Yes. I
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  found recently this white woman, whose entire
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  Instagram page was like, I love Deaf culture.
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  I love Deaf people. I can sign. And basically
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  it's trying to convert Deaf people. And she's
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  hearing. It's crazy.
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  DANI: I wonder if the Mormons
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  were, like true Mormons are like a special interest
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  of mine.
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  KARA: Yeah.
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  DANI: I'm obsessed with the culture.
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  And also I grew up a little bit adjacent to
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  it, because sometimes there'd be a homeschool
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  family that's just, like, a little bit weird,
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  and you wouldn't know why.
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  KARA: There's a lot more
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  out west, too.
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  DANI: Yeah, there were a lot of
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  homeschool families where, like, there would
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  be seven siblings, and they'd all be, like, gorgeous
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  blonde girls who do, like, 17 different sports
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  and are, like, very talented, smart—driven women.
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  And then, like, four years later on Instagram,
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  they'd be, like, getting married, and were
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  both, like, 17.
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  KARA: Okay.
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  DANI: And I was like, oh, okay,
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  I understand what's happening.
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  KARA: They want to have
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  sex so bad. That's why.
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  DANI: Do you think that the
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  Mormons at the Deaf event in Portland were Mormons
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  serving on their mission? The specific niche
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  interest that I have is in the spring when they
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  announce where they're sending the Mormons on
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  their missions. Because sometimes I used to think,
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  probably partially from Book of Mormon, but then
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  also just from what I was seeing on the internet,
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  that they were always sending them far, far
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  away.
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  KARA: But sometimes it's, like, Portland, Oregon.
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  DANI: No, exactly. That's what I'm saying is, like,
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  I just watched this girl read her, like, full
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  letter in front of her parents. It was, like,
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  an eight—minute Instagram reel, you guys. I
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  got, like, sucked the fuck in. And it's her being,
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  like, reading the full thing. And then at the
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  end, it says, you have been called to serve in
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  Austin, Texas, in the language of Spanish. So
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  she needs to learn Spanish, so then it's like
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  for the next six months you will learn Spanish
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  and then you will go to Austin, Texas and I'm
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  like, okay. Do you think that it was like, you will
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  learn sign language and you will go to—
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  KARA: Portland?
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  DANI: Court the Deaf community in Portland, Oregon? I
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  don't know.
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  KARA: I wouldn't say Portland, Oregon has
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  the largest Deaf community, though. If I would
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  really want to convert some Deaf people, I'd do
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  LA or New York.
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  DANI: I don't know. I don't know that
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  there's a lot of logic there anyway
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  KARA: Yeah. But
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  they were, like, in full garb with the tag.
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  DANI: So
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  then they were definitely serving their mission.
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  KARA: Wow.
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  DANI: Like, maybe they know sign language for
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  non—nefarious reasons.
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  KARA: They barely signed.
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  DANI: Okay.
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  KARA: This Jehovah's Witness, that was, she was our
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  main problem. Because she was kind of really
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  pushing it on us. Very paternalistic, too.
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  DANI: What
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  was she saying?
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  KARA: She was just kind of like, I'm
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  here to help you poor Deaf people, and you should
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  come to this event. And we're like, You're imposing
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  on our Deaf space. For context, we were at a
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  Deaf cafe. It's a Deaf—owned and Deaf—run cafe
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  in Portland, Oregon. It's called Woodstock Cafe,
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  if you're interested. Very cool place. But she,
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  a hearing person, infiltrated the space and was
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  like, I am here to convert you and take over
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  the space and also interrupt our conversation.
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  DANI: Right.
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  KARA: It also just makes me feel so icky because
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  I think a lot of Deaf people experience language
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  deprivation, they have a lot of language barriers
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  already. A lot of them struggle academically
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  or education—wise.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Or underemployed, which
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  we'll talk about in the podcast later. And I
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  think they really leech onto that and take advantage
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  of it. So, yeah, it just makes me feel very icky.
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  DANI: Yeah. It's gross.
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  KARA: You want to talk about Disney
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  animation?
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  DANI: Yes. Oh, my God.
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  KARA: For context, so, Disney
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  just released sign language videos of three
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  music videos? We Don't Talk About Bruno.
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  DANI: Yeah,
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  and then—
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  KARA: Frozen 2 and Moana 2. Or Moana.
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  DANI: I
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  think it's Moana, but then it was Frozen 2. Because
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  I remember seeing the clip and being like, that's
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  the song they chose? No offense to Frozen 2.
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  KARA: I never saw Frozen 2.
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  DANI: Obviously Frozen. Actually,
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  Frozen 2 has a beautiful plot line of, like,
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  land back. Like it's Elsa and Anna, guys, spoilers
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  for Frozen 2, but it's Elsa and Anna finding
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  out that their ancestors were like actually shitty
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  people who like colonized and oppressed a bunch
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  of people. And the land was like magic before
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  they came in and like leached it all out. And
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  it's them being like, we need to give control
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  back to these people.
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  KARA: Interesting.
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  DANI: Yeah. It's just that the
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  songs, most of them flopped.
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  KARA: Okay.
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  DANI: In my opinion!
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  I think Frozen 1 is just like banger after banger.
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  KARA: I love Frozen.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: So good. Anyway, Disney
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  released animations of the characters in these
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  Disney clips. And the characters are signing.
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  So like Elsa is signing. Moana is signing.
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  DANI: And
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  they were truly animated.
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  KARA: It's a traditional
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  animation style.
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  DANI: Yeah, which meant they were
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  drawing.
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  KARA: Like frame by frame.
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  DANI: Yeah, frame by
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  frame drawing.
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  KARA: Which is cool.
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  DANI: Super cool.
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  KARA: But
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  then.
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  DANI: Love the concept.
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  KARA: The concept is great.
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  It's groundbreaking, very cool to see. But, you
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  cannot understand anything they're saying. And
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  also the way it's quote unquote filmed, it'll
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  have like, it'll sweep back and then you can't
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  see their hands or you'll sweep behind them.
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  And again, you can't see their hands.
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  DANI: I think
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  what the animators chose to do was keep the, like
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  way that it was originally filmed. Quote, filmed,
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  I don't really know, captured, whatever, as close
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  to the original as possible. But unfortunately,
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  that's not the way that you would capture ASL.
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  KARA: No. And a lot of Deaf creators were like, what
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  you did is great. And it seems like they had
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  a lot of consultants who were Deaf, which is
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  wonderful, and consultants that matched the ethnicity
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  and race of the people they were supposed to
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  capture.
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  DANI: Yes.
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  KARA: But, someone did recommend like,
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  you know, it's really hard because you're doing
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  animation, traditional animation style frame
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  by frame, which is not how ASL really should
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  be captured. It should be motion capture.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Because it's so fluid. And also ASL is so 3D.
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  DANI: Yes.
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  KARA: And when you're watching it on TV, it's
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  just not going to be the same.
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  DANI: And some of the
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  facial expressions weren't necessarily matching
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  as well, again, because they're trying to keep
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  it true to the original.
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  KARA: And also the animators
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  were all hearing.
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  DANI: Right.
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  KARA: Which is another thing.
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  There could have been Deaf creators doing this,
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  but there weren't. There were Deaf consultants
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  specifically for the signing itself and not for
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  the animation part.
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  DANI: Yeah, I think probably what
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  happened was Disney was like, in the spirit of
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  inclusion, let's bring Deaf people into the space
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  to create when probably what should have happened
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  is they should have funded a project, you know?
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  KARA: I think it's a great first step.
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  DANI: It was great.
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  KARA: But what they should be doing next is funding.
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  Gallaudet has an animation lab.
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  DANI: Oh my God. The
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  Walt Disney—Gallaudet Animation Lab?
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  KARA: Literally.
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  DANI: Can you imagine?
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  KARA: But Gallaudet has a very cool
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  animation lab, but they use motion capture. But
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  that's also easier to capture signing.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  And I would imagine cheaper.
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  KARA: And cheaper. Easier.
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  DANI: Listen, the animation is beautiful and I'm
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  a really big proponent of Disney's original animation
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  styles. That being said, motion capture would
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  have been faster and cheaper and more accurate.
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  KARA: Yeah. I know Bluey had some signing, and that
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  was pretty good.
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  DANI: That's really nice.
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  KARA: Yeah. Because
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  Bluey, the characters, their hands are quite
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  big.
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  DANI: Yeah, their hands are quite big.
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  KARA: Which really
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  helps. And with the Disney ones, if you go see
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  it online, their hands are — no, like Elsa and
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  Anna, they have big heads and tiny hands. So
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  it's really hard to see what they're signing.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: So should we get to the show? [UPBEAT JAZZY MUSIC].
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  DANI: Oh, my God.
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  KARA: So much happened.
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  DANI: I was so excited to be back.
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  KARA: This was a great episode to start off this season.
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  DANI: Fantastic episode. Lenny has tucked herself so
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  intensely into between me and the microphone.
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  So, that's okay. I am annoyed that they like timeline
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  checked me so hard.
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  KARA: It's with Emmett's art?
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  DANI: I'm not even saying that. I'm saying to turn
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  on the TV and have it be like, it's the end of
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  summer, guys. We've just jumped, what, two and
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  a half months?
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  KARA: Season one, episode 23. This is
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  the Color of My Dreams, which aired September
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  3rd, 2012.
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  DANI: I didn't look it up.
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  KARA: It's a Joan Miro
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  painting. Let me spell it out for you. So picture
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  a white canvas. The top left is in beautiful
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  calligraphy and it says photo. And then the bottom
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  right is a blue blob. And then below it, in French,
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  it says, this is the color of my dreams.
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  DANI: Do you
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  like it?
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  KARA: It's fine.
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  DANI: Okay.
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  KARA: I think it's called
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  that because Regina has a dream.
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  DANI: Oh, my God.
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  This opening, to reference Twilight right away,
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  this is shot for shot.
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  KARA: Oh, yeah.
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  DANI: Breaking Dawn,
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  the movie.
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  KARA: Elaborate.
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  DANI: Bella has a dream where
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  she's walking down the aisle in an all white
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  dress that is so not her and like everything's
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  just a little bit too bright, a little bit off.
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  And then she gets up to the front and she looks
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  at the officiant and it's Aro the evil vampire,
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  like an enemy that she's afraid of. And then she
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  turns around and everyone she loves is dead. So
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  it was kind of giving that.
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  KARA: Yeah, Regina's walking
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  down the aisle. Bay and Daphne are bridesmaids.
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  Everyone's looking.
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  DANI: And they look so happy, like
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  too happy.
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  KARA: Yes, everyone looks thrilled. Angelo
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  is the groom. She walks up to Angelo and then
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  who's the priest but Patrick.
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  DANI: Patrick, who's
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  still fucking there.
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  KARA: Who's still there. Not for
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  long.
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  DANI: I thought we'd be done with him already,
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  guys.
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  KARA: Yeah. Then she wakes up. It was all a dream.
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  DANI: Yeah. And Patrick's like, what are you doing?
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  KARA: Yeah. He's like, what do you think you're doing?
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  She wakes up.
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  DANI: She wakes up and she's wearing,
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  I know this is just for TV, but it still pisses
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  me off.
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  KARA: Is it an underwire bra?
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  DANI: Yeah. She's wearing
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  a full coverage nightie. That's very cute. Like
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  a sexy little. But whatever. But like her boobs
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  fully covered and then a hot pink underwire bra
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  underneath.
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  KARA: To sleep in?
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  DANI: To sleep in.
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  KARA: It's so
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  uncomfortable. A was watching with me last night
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  and A was like, why is she wearing a bra?
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  DANI: I think
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  I'm just used to watching like HBO shows where
• 12:23
  you can see some nip and it's fine.
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  KARA: Right.
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  DANI: But
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  I guess I do remember watching like Hannah Montana
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  growing up. Specifically Hannah Montana, they
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  did this. They would have Miley Cyrus be like
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  in PJ bottoms, two layered tank tops and fully
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  in like, a padded underwire push—up bra underneath
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  the two tank tops. And the implication was like
• 12:45
  that she just woke up. And my nine—year—old
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  brain was like, am I supposed to be wearing bras
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  like to bed?
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  KARA: That's true. I used to go to sleepovers
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  with friends who would wear underwire bras to
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  bed. I think maybe they watched Hannah Montana and
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  they said perhaps.
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  DANI: Like all Disney shows. Probably
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  because it was like, yeah, we don't want to see
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  any nip.
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  KARA: It doesn't have to be like this.
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  DANI: It
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  doesn't have to be like this, guys. Free the
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  nipple. Regina, free the nipple.
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  KARA: Do you know
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  what else she's wearing?
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  DANI: What?
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  KARA: A carpal tunnel
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  wrist brace.
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  DANI: Oh, my God. Yeah.
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  KARA: Which we'll get
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  to.
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  DANI: We'll get to it.
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  KARA: Now, people are finally
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  swimming in the pool.
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  DANI: Finally.
• 13:20
  KARA: Finally.
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  DANI: They
• 13:22
  finally built the set.
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  KARA: Daphne and Toby are having
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  a little swimming race. Toby beats her. He is
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  signing up a storm now.
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  DANI: He's signing. They clearly,
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  the implication is they've had a summer of bonding.
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  KARA: Yes. It's really sweet.
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  DANI: And then Bay shows up.
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  KARA: She's back.
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  DANI: She's back. And oh, the implication
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  is that Bay's been away.
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  KARA: She's been away.
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  DANI: Regina
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  tells Patrick, I gotta go. Bay is coming back.
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  And it's like, where's she coming back from?
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  She's back and she's wearing tights under jean
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  shorts, which is so me freshman year of high
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  school.
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  KARA: I know. And a feather in her hair. She
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  went to the Galapagos, guys.
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  DANI: I can't speak on
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  the feather.
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  KARA: I used to have a feather in my hair.
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  DANI: Oh my God. What color?
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  KARA: I think green.
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  DANI: Was it
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  like in the era of people doing that?
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  KARA: Yes.
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  DANI: I
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  never fell for that propaganda.
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  KARA: Okay.
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  DANI: I want
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  to tell everyone. I want to spread the word.
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  KARA: Okay.
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  DANI: That I didn't.
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  KARA: Good for you. Mine
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  was really tiny. It was just like a few tiny
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  strands. It wasn't as big as Bay's was.
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  DANI: Yeah,
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  Bay's is huge.
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  KARA: It's hot pink. Huge.
• 14:18
  DANI: Yeah. It's
• 14:23
  a very visual way to show that she has undergone
• 14:27
  some change.
• 14:27
  KARA: She went to a tropical place.
• 14:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 14:30
  KARA: And her signing is kind of rusty.
• 14:30
  DANI: Yeah.
• 14:30
  KARA: She's
• 14:33
  trying to sign with Daphne after being away for,
• 14:35
  what, four or five weeks?
• 14:35
  DANI: Yeah. But she mostly
• 14:39
  wasn't signing with Daphne. She was mostly signing
• 14:41
  with Emmett. And now she's not signing at all.
• 14:44
  And she brought a boy home.
• 14:44
  KARA: Yeah, cut to the
• 14:48
  kitchen where we meet this guy. He says he and
• 14:51
  Bay bonded over their mutual hatred of sun, ocean,
• 14:55
  and sand. Why would you go to the Galapagos?
• 14:58
  DANI: Bay was just looking to go anywhere, I think.
• 15:00
  KARA: Guys, it's beautiful there. But you should not
• 15:03
  go if you don't like the sun, ocean, or sand.
• 15:05
  DANI: I kind of want to go to the Galapagos.
• 15:05
  KARA: I would
• 15:07
  love to go. ALEX: We should go.
• 15:07
  KARA: This boy's name is
• 15:09
  Alex.
• 15:09
  DANI: Yeah. He's cute.
• 15:09
  KARA: He's cute.
• 15:09
  DANI: I don't really—
• 15:13
  KARA: He's just some guy.
• 15:13
  DANI: He's also, he read as very—
• 15:17
  I was like, that's a gay man.
• 15:17
  KARA: He was in Spring
• 15:20
  Awakening on Broadway.
• 15:20
  DANI: Gay?
• 15:20
  KARA: No.
• 15:20
  DANI: Well, the actor.
• 15:24
  KARA: That I don't know. His Wikipedia wasn't expansive
• 15:26
  enough.
• 15:26
  DANI: Okay.
• 15:26
  KARA: Alex is meeting everyone, but he
• 15:30
  does not know about the switch.
• 15:30
  DANI: No.
• 15:30
  KARA: So he sees
• 15:32
  Regina and goes, are you her aunt? Awkward.
• 15:32
  DANI: But
• 15:36
  you know what? I get it. Bay's allowed to go
• 15:38
  have— first of all, she's trying to bring this
• 15:41
  boy back and make him work as a regular boyfriend.
• 15:43
  He's clearly a vacation boyfriend. Bay just doesn't
• 15:46
  understand that yet. But she's allowed to just
• 15:48
  keep that all separate if she wants.
• 15:48
  KARA: Yeah, it's
• 15:51
  her story too. She doesn't have to share it all.
• 15:54
  John is like, honey, enough. Enough. No more
• 15:58
  boys.
• 15:58
  DANI: John has a real attitude this episode.
• 16:01
  KARA: It's very annoying.
• 16:01
  DANI: What is going on with his
• 16:03
  voice this episode? He was clearly sick.
• 16:03
  KARA: Oh really?
• 16:06
  DANI: He, there's like some weird dubbing happening
• 16:09
  in the beginning scene with him and Kathryn.
• 16:12
  KARA: thank you, hearing.
• 16:12
  DANI: And then at the end when they're
• 16:14
  fighting at the end of this episode, he's like
• 16:16
  sounds hoarse as fuck. So I think he was sick and
• 16:20
  then they went back and it almost sounds like
• 16:22
  someone else is speaking his lines in the first
• 16:24
  couple scenes when they put that giant bowl of
• 16:27
  chips on the table.
• 16:27
  KARA: I — yeah, that was huge.
• 16:27
  DANI: I was
• 16:30
  dying. I'm like, I want a pool day with snacks
• 16:33
  afterwards. This seems so nice.
• 16:33
  KARA: That's so nice.
• 16:36
  DANI: It's just starting to get warm here. I'm really
• 16:38
  dying for it. I'm ready.
• 16:38
  KARA: Daphne tells Bay, Emmett
• 16:41
  gave me a letter and he would like me to give
• 16:43
  it to you.
• 16:43
  DANI: Yeah, I was kind of annoyed at Daphne
• 16:46
  for this. It felt like not the time or place.
• 16:46
  KARA: You
• 16:49
  couldn't wait a day? The boyfriend is here.
• 16:49
  DANI: Also,
• 16:52
  her being like, I hope it's okay. I've already
• 16:54
  left it in your room. I don't know. Like, maybe
• 16:57
  hold on to it for a couple days.
• 16:57
  KARA: I think I agree.
• 17:00
  During this exchange, A turned to me and said,
• 17:03
  why is she simcomming to Bay if it's just the
• 17:05
  two of them?
• 17:05
  DANI: Oh, sweet, sweet A.
• 17:05
  KARA: And Paolo. Yeah,
• 17:09
  I get it.
• 17:09
  DANI: You guys gotta watch the show.
• 17:09
  KARA: I'm
• 17:12
  like, A, do you realize that's why we say SimCom
• 17:14
  Alert every episode?
• 17:14
  DANI: Every episode. It's for
• 17:17
  all the SimCom.
• 17:17
  KARA: It's for all the SimCom.
• 17:17
  DANI: Who
• 17:19
  would have thought?
• 17:19
  KARA: Next scene, Daphne is school
• 17:22
  shopping in the fakest set I've ever seen.
• 17:22
  DANI: So
• 17:25
  fake. She's also wearing a jacket. What month
• 17:28
  is it right now that she needs to be wearing
• 17:30
  it?
• 17:30
  KARA: It's end of August.
• 17:30
  DANI: It's summer. A jacket
• 17:32
  inside.
• 17:32
  KARA: School starts, what, end of August or
• 17:35
  early September?
• 17:35
  DANI: I think.
• 17:35
  KARA: Either way, she should
• 17:39
  not need a jacket.
• 17:39
  DANI: No.
• 17:39
  KARA: But Emmett is there, I don't
• 17:42
  know, getting pencils. And he comes up and he
• 17:45
  says, how's Bay? And Daphne's like, she's good.
• 17:49
  She has a boyfriend now. Emmett is wearing so
• 17:51
  much foundation in this scene.
• 17:51
  DANI: I think they were
• 17:54
  trying to make him look tan.
• 17:54
  KARA: I think so. Well,
• 17:56
  maybe the lighting was weird because there was
• 17:58
  light behind them from the school shopping set?
• 18:02
  I don't know. It was just very odd.
• 18:02
  DANI: It was a
• 18:04
  bad set.
• 18:04
  KARA: Now Kathryn is helping Bay unpack
• 18:07
  from her trip to the Galapagos. Kathryn is
• 18:10
  also done with her book.
• 18:10
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:10
  KARA: It's about to
• 18:14
  be published.
• 18:14
  DANI: That's not how that works. It would
• 18:17
  not have been done and then put out that fast.
• 18:20
  KARA: That's what I thought. It's— my beautiful friend,
• 18:22
  Emma, who listens to this pod.
• 18:22
  DANI: Shout out, Emma.
• 18:24
  KARA: I think they do like two years in advance.
• 18:24
  DANI: Yes.
• 18:27
  KARA: Yeah.
• 18:27
  DANI: It's a long time.
• 18:27
  KARA: Correct me if I'm wrong,
• 18:30
  Emma, but you do this quite a while in advance.
• 18:33
  DANI: They're maybe rushing it to compete with the
• 18:35
  other book.
• 18:35
  KARA: That was my thought. And also, it's
• 18:37
  still a hot topic. And strike while the iron's
• 18:40
  hot.
• 18:40
  DANI: I think maybe they just knew that fans were
• 18:42
  getting tired of this storyline.
• 18:42
  KARA: I guess. And
• 18:45
  then she's like, Bay, did you read the book,
• 18:47
  at least? You know, like the unpublished copies
• 18:49
  of my book. And Bay's like, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 18:52
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:52
  KARA: She's lying.
• 18:52
  DANI: Super funny, great. She's
• 18:54
  lying. Can I say, I don't care. I don't think
• 18:57
  Bay should have to read it. I think it's fucked
• 18:59
  up of Kathryn to expect her to read it, actually.
• 19:01
  KARA: Bay doesn't have to read it, but maybe she should
• 19:03
  tell her mom instead of lying.
• 19:03
  DANI: I don't know.
• 19:05
  The way Kathryn is, I feel like I can imagine
• 19:08
  being Bay and getting that sent to her on her,
• 19:12
  like, vacation trip and being like, I don't want
• 19:14
  to fucking deal with this. If I tell her I'm
• 19:16
  not going to read it, it's going to be a whole
• 19:17
  thing.
• 19:17
  KARA: Right.
• 19:17
  DANI: Also, she actually didn't. She
• 19:20
  just says in the moment, like, yeah, it was great.
• 19:21
  Super funny. She's not, like, texting her, like,
• 19:24
  reading it right now. Love it so much.
• 19:24
  KARA: Right.
• 19:26
  DANI: Because Kathryn says, I never heard back. And
• 19:28
  Bay's just like, yeah, it was great.
• 19:28
  KARA: Also, she
• 19:30
  was doing work there in the Galapagos. It seemed
• 19:33
  like it was a Spanish enrichment program?
• 19:33
  DANI: Yeah,
• 19:35
  she was like, I had a lot of homework.
• 19:35
  KARA: Yeah.
• 19:39
  DANI: Whatever.
• 19:39
  KARA: I don't know. I feel like we should
• 19:41
  just leave Bay alone. She's had a rough time.
• 19:43
  DANI: Exactly. Let's leave Bay alone. I've become a
• 19:45
  big Bay defender. And I know that Kathryn doesn't
• 19:48
  know what happened with her and Emmett, like,
• 19:50
  really.
• 19:50
  KARA: But she knows they broke up.
• 19:50
  DANI: Yeah. But
• 19:53
  it's just like, if you're going to write a
• 19:55
  book about the most, like, vulnerable, still
• 19:57
  raw thing happening in your teenage daughter's
• 20:00
  life, the least you can do is not expect her
• 20:02
  to read it.
• 20:02
  KARA: Yeah, that's true.
• 20:02
  DANI: So.
• 20:02
  KARA: Yeah, this
• 20:05
  is a Leave Bay Alone episode. She's like, by the
• 20:07
  way, I invited your current boyfriend, Alex,
• 20:09
  to the book party, which is very soon.
• 20:09
  DANI: Yeah.
• 20:13
  KARA: This book is being published, like, in two days.
• 20:15
  DANI: It almost seemed like it's that same evening.
• 20:18
  KARA: It feels like it. It feels like she got home,
• 20:21
  they started school, and the book party all happened
• 20:23
  in one day. It's very strange. Also, the letter
• 20:26
  that Daphne left on the bed is there. Bay sees
• 20:29
  it, and she puts it in the closet. And then Kathryn
• 20:32
  is like, so what happened with Emmett? But before
• 20:35
  Bay can explain, Regina comes in with aloe, I
• 20:39
  guess? And now it's exposition time to explain
• 20:42
  why she has a wrist brace on. And Regina says,
• 20:47
  oh, you know, signing and cutting hair gave me
• 20:49
  bad tendonitis. But it's because Constance Marie
• 20:52
  had carpal tunnel. And she couldn't sign. So
• 20:56
  they had to write into the show why she couldn't
• 20:58
  sign, which is really annoying.
• 20:58
  DANI: Also.
• 20:58
  KARA: I'm going
• 21:02
  to be mean. There's so many Deaf people out there
• 21:04
  who don't have carpal tunnel. What happened,
• 21:06
  girl?
• 21:06
  DANI: I do have carpal tunnel.
• 21:06
  KARA: And you can sign
• 21:09
  just fine.
• 21:09
  DANI: And I can sign just fine.
• 21:09
  KARA: Bay also
• 21:13
  asks about Angelo and his hearing is in a week
• 21:16
  and they're all going to present letters to try
• 21:18
  to get him to stay.
• 21:18
  DANI: And everyone's being really
• 21:21
  positive about it.
• 21:21
  KARA: They're like this is absolutely
• 21:24
  gonna work.
• 21:24
  DANI: Totally.
• 21:24
  KARA: Don't we remember last episode
• 21:27
  where John was like, I talked to an immigration
• 21:29
  lawyer.
• 21:29
  DANI: Yeah.
• 21:29
  KARA: It's very unlikely that if we explain
• 21:33
  that him leaving would be undue hardship on the
• 21:37
  girls that that would work.
• 21:37
  DANI: Yeah. I'm not like.
• 21:41
  I don't know. We'll get to it.
• 21:41
  KARA: We'll get to it.
• 21:43
  But right now we need to do something else. We're
• 21:45
  at a restaurant because Daphne is interviewing
• 21:47
  for a kitchen job.
• 21:47
  DANI: Yeah. I wish we could skip
• 21:50
  this.
• 21:50
  KARA: We're going to have to do it.
• 21:50
  DANI: So yeah,
• 21:52
  she is like, I took summer classes. So I'm getting
• 21:56
  off at two every day. I've been trying to get
• 21:59
  a job. Like she's telling this lady.
• 21:59
  KARA: She's very
• 22:01
  excited.
• 22:01
  DANI: She's very excited. And then this lady's
• 22:04
  like, what's your accent? I can't figure it out.
• 22:07
  Which I think genuinely it's like an illegal
• 22:09
  question to ask.
• 22:09
  KARA: I don't think you're allowed
• 22:12
  to ask about national origin.
• 22:12
  DANI: No, you aren't.
• 22:12
  KARA: Yeah.
• 22:15
  DANI: But I guess I don't know how the service industry
• 22:18
  works, like things might be more casual there.
• 22:21
  Like I've only really worked in corporate vibes.
• 22:23
  KARA: But then Daphne, which she does not have to do, guys.
• 22:27
  You do not have to do this. She discloses that
• 22:30
  she is Deaf.
• 22:30
  DANI: Yeah.
• 22:30
  KARA: And then everything switches.
• 22:33
  The interviewer's like, I am so sorry. My dog
• 22:37
  is Deaf.
• 22:37
  DANI: UGH.
• 22:37
  KARA: A was watching this with me and
• 22:41
  was like, oh my God, it happened to you too?
• 22:43
  DANI: Jesus Christ. Yeah, she's so apologetic.
• 22:43
  KARA: She's
• 22:46
  like, you poor thing.
• 22:46
  DANI: She literally says, you
• 22:49
  poor thing.
• 22:49
  KARA: And then yell talks, IT WAS SO LOVELY
• 22:53
  MEETING YOU! Story of my life. Poor Daphne. Tough
• 22:57
  time for the two of them, honestly.
• 22:57
  DANI: Tough time
• 22:59
  for the two of them. The thing I want to say,
• 23:02
  and it's not in defense of this woman. Fuck this
• 23:04
  woman, she's very ignorant, is that if I were
• 23:06
  her, I also wouldn't hire Daphne simply because
• 23:08
  I would not hire a high schooler to work in my
• 23:11
  fancy kitchen. Is that crazy? My whole thing
• 23:14
  this episode is I wish they'd picked a more realistic
• 23:16
  job for her to try to be getting.
• 23:16
  KARA: Inside out.
• 23:19
  Inside out? In—N—Out. Inside Out [Laughs].
• 23:19
  DANI: I was
• 23:22
  like, the Pixar film? Yeah, In—N—Out. Or like
• 23:25
  somewhere, yeah, somewhere where like, She's
• 23:27
  interviewing at like really fancy Kansas City
• 23:30
  places.
• 23:30
  KARA: She's a big foodie.
• 23:30
  DANI: I know. I know. I
• 23:34
  just—
• 23:34
  KARA: Also she can start from the bottom of
• 23:36
  her career. She can start busing. But it seems like
• 23:38
  she wants to immediately be a prep cook.
• 23:38
  DANI: She's
• 23:40
  also a junior. They're juniors.
• 23:40
  KARA: She's 16.
• 23:40
  DANI: That's
• 23:44
  crazy. Go work at Claire's. Like, go work at
• 23:47
  the mall, girl.
• 23:47
  KARA: She would be so good.
• 23:47
  DANI: Go pierce
• 23:49
  some ears. She'd be great at that. Oh, she'd
• 23:51
  be so good with the kids.
• 23:51
  KARA: I know.
• 23:51
  DANI: So that's why
• 23:54
  I'm frustrated. I'm like, I just wish the show
• 23:56
  had picked a different job to make her go through
• 23:59
  this, so that you could really highlight how ridiculous
• 24:02
  people are being.
• 24:02
  KARA: Yeah.
• 24:02
  DANI: Instead of being like,
• 24:04
  well, the pedophile chef doesn't. Sorry, spoilers.
• 24:07
  But, like, the pedophile chef doesn't want the
• 24:10
  high schooler working in the kitchen. He wants
• 24:12
  her back at his apartment. So, yeah. Anyway,
• 24:16
  yeah, but the job interview is awful, and she
• 24:20
  goes back to the book party and is telling Adrianna
• 24:23
  and Toby about it.
• 24:23
  KARA: Oh, yeah, Toby's giving ally.
• 24:26
  He's like, that's stupid. That's ridiculous.
• 24:29
  You're amazing. I don't know why they would ever
• 24:31
  do that.
• 24:31
  DANI: Yeah, he said, I spent one summer with
• 24:33
  you. Ally.
• 24:33
  KARA: And Daphne's like, I wish I could
• 24:37
  keep it from them, but I don't think it's honest.
• 24:39
  Yes, you can. Under the ADA, you do not have
• 24:43
  to disclose your disability.
• 24:43
  DANI: Okay.
• 24:43
  KARA: You're only legally
• 24:47
  required to disclose your disability if you're
• 24:50
  requesting a reasonable accommodation, like an
• 24:53
  interpreter. But Daphne was not doing that. So
• 24:55
  she's not required to disclose her disability.
• 24:57
  DANI: Yeah.
• 24:57
  KARA: Daphne goes, I have had 12 interviews.
• 25:00
  No luck. Okay.
• 25:00
  DANI: That's why I'm mad.
• 25:00
  KARA: But then Toby's
• 25:04
  like, why don't you use nepotism? Also, I think
• 25:08
  it's fine to ask your mom for help.
• 25:08
  DANI: No, I'm pro
• 25:10
  her asking Kathryn for help.
• 25:10
  KARA: Yeah. I'm very
• 25:13
  pro that, especially she's coming from a disadvantaged
• 25:16
  position already. Like, why not use everything
• 25:18
  you can?
• 25:18
  DANI: Absolutely. I don't think there's any
• 25:21
  problem doing that. I think that you should say,
• 25:24
  don't get me a job at the Kansas City equivalent
• 25:27
  of Noma since I'm in high school.
• 25:27
  KARA: Which is what
• 25:30
  she's going to end up getting.
• 25:30
  DANI: But Daphne doesn't
• 25:33
  know how to do that.
• 25:33
  KARA: But she's such a, it tracks
• 25:35
  to me because she's such a big foodie already.
• 25:38
  She's always watching Food Network. She's always
• 25:39
  cooking and she knows a lot about food. It makes
• 25:42
  sense that she would go high, you know?
• 25:42
  DANI: I'm just,
• 25:45
  like, thinking of The Bear. I just feel like
• 25:47
  I have so much more— watching this at 12, I was
• 25:49
  like, okay, yeah, whatever. She's working at
• 25:51
  a restaurant. And now I'm like, wait, I have
• 25:53
  so much, like, context for the scale of what
• 25:57
  she's probably working at. Whatever. Anyway,
• 25:59
  let's just suspend our disbelief. Daphne's qualified,
• 26:02
  sort of.
• 26:02
  KARA: Yeah, she knows how to do everything,
• 26:05
  which is very shocking to me. How would you know
• 26:07
  how to prep everything?
• 26:07
  DANI: Right. I think she's
• 26:10
  doing a lot more cooking off screen. It happened
• 26:12
  off screen.
• 26:12
  KARA: Whatever. Also at the book party,
• 26:15
  Toby and Bay are chatting and remember they're both
• 26:18
  victims are being cheated on. But it's okay because
• 26:21
  Toby apparently has a new girlfriend named Jenna.
• 26:23
  DANI: Okay. Shout out.
• 26:23
  KARA: I don't remember Jenna.
• 26:23
  DANI: Do we
• 26:26
  meet her?
• 26:26
  KARA: I don't remember.
• 26:26
  DANI: I can't wait to find
• 26:28
  out, guys.
• 26:28
  KARA: Yeah.
• 26:28
  DANI: I really don't remember the
• 26:31
  last like five episodes of this season.
• 26:31
  KARA: Me neither.
• 26:34
  DANI: But then I really remember season two.
• 26:34
  KARA: Me too.
• 26:37
  DANI: So I don't know what happened there.
• 26:37
  KARA: All right.
• 26:39
  Patrick approaches Regina. They're talking about
• 26:42
  the book and how it's going. He was like, it
• 26:45
  seems good. No one seems to be, like, tarring
• 26:47
  and feathering you for keeping it a secret. And
• 26:50
  Regina's like, yeah, it's going well. They look
• 26:52
  over at John and Kathryn and how happy they
• 26:55
  are together. And Patrick is like, I don't get
• 26:58
  the obsession with marriage. It's not my thing.
• 27:00
  DANI: This was so random.
• 27:00
  KARA: Why would you talk about
• 27:02
  this now?
• 27:02
  DANI: They have been dating for also at this
• 27:06
  point so long.
• 27:06
  KARA: Several months.
• 27:06
  DANI: Like four or five
• 27:09
  at least.
• 27:09
  KARA: I think at this point you would talk
• 27:11
  about at least what you want going forward.
• 27:11
  DANI: And
• 27:14
  not in this way. Like the way they're at like
• 27:16
  a very nice party and he just goes, no, I don't
• 27:19
  believe in marriage.
• 27:19
  KARA: Have you considered the
• 27:21
  tax advantages? Have you considered health insurance?
• 27:24
  DANI: A joint bank account.
• 27:24
  KARA: And the automatic legal
• 27:26
  status.
• 27:26
  DANI: So true.
• 27:26
  KARA: But Regina looks at him and
• 27:28
  goes, good to know. Thank you.
• 27:28
  DANI: Because I think
• 27:32
  later on, isn't she going to be like, well, you
• 27:35
  said you don't believe in marriage, so why do
• 27:36
  you care about this?
• 27:36
  KARA: Yeah.
• 27:36
  DANI: So evil. Which is
• 27:40
  so funny, actually. I would do that. Yeah, I
• 27:42
  love that. I would throw that back in his face.
• 27:44
  KARA: Alex at the party is reading Kathryn's book.
• 27:48
  Bay, again, did not read this.
• 27:48
  DANI: And then he's
• 27:50
  like, and who's Emmett?
• 27:50
  KARA: Apparently, Kathryn
• 27:52
  wrote about Emmett that he came up in his motorcycle
• 27:55
  looking like a Deaf James Dean. Not wrong.
• 27:55
  DANI: Yeah,
• 27:58
  she's not wrong.
• 27:58
  KARA: But Bay flips out. She grabs
• 28:01
  her book and she marches straight to Kathryn.
• 28:04
  DANI: She's not chill about it. Your new boyfriend
• 28:07
  definitely knows something's up with you and
• 28:09
  Def James Dean.
• 28:09
  KARA: He's like, I want to meet Emmett.
• 28:11
  He sounds cool. And Bay's like, no, you don't.
• 28:13
  DANI: He says, who's Emmett? He sounds hot. Which is
• 28:16
  why I was like, Alex is low—key giving bisexual
• 28:18
  king.
• 28:18
  KARA: I was going to say bi icon.
• 28:18
  DANI: Yeah, he's
• 28:21
  a bi—con.
• 28:21
  KARA: She goes up to Kathryn. Kathryn's
• 28:23
  like, of course I added him. He's like the first
• 28:26
  argument that Regina and I had. He's part of
• 28:29
  our story.
• 28:29
  DANI: And he's Daphne's best friend.
• 28:29
  KARA: Like,
• 28:31
  he's a big part of our lives. Of course I'm going
• 28:33
  to add him. I didn't add that you two dated or
• 28:35
  any of that.
• 28:35
  DANI: Shout out to Kathryn. That's great.
• 28:37
  I feel like that's what should have happened
• 28:39
  there.
• 28:39
  KARA: Yeah, I think that's completely fine.
• 28:41
  And Kathryn's like, you really can't complain
• 28:43
  because you didn't read the book.
• 28:43
  DANI: Yeah. I think
• 28:46
  both of them are, I think Bay's right to be like,
• 28:48
  sorry, I didn't want to fucking read about my
• 28:49
  own life.
• 28:49
  KARA: Yeah.
• 28:49
  DANI: Written by my mom on my vacation.
• 28:52
  And then Kathryn's like, that's fine, but I
• 28:54
  don't think you get to complain.
• 28:54
  KARA: Yeah. I think
• 28:56
  they're both right.
• 28:56
  DANI: I think they're both right.
• 28:57
  But I don't even think they're mad at each other.
• 28:59
  Bay's just kind of like, all right, heard.
• 28:59
  KARA: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Bay kind of was like, all right, respect.
• 29:01
  DANI: Yeah.
• 29:03
  KARA: Which was good.
• 29:03
  DANI: And then Daphne asks Kathryn
• 29:06
  for her help. She says, can you do nepotism for
• 29:09
  me?
• 29:09
  KARA: And Kathryn's like, I would love to, because
• 29:12
  I love you.
• 29:12
  DANI: Yeah, it's really sweet because Daphne's
• 29:15
  like, I'm sorry, I don't want it to be weird
• 29:16
  for you. And Kathryn's like, why would it be
• 29:18
  weird? This is literally my favorite thing in
• 29:20
  the world.
• 29:20
  KARA: Yeah.
• 29:20
  DANI: Is like helping my child get
• 29:22
  a leg up in the industry that they want.
• 29:22
  KARA: Yeah.
• 29:25
  DANI: She's like obsessed with that.
• 29:25
  KARA: That is so true.
• 29:27
  She is.
• 29:27
  DANI: And then John is like, ugh, my wife has
• 29:31
  a life. She's busy.
• 29:31
  KARA: But the cable guy's coming!
• 29:35
  DANI: The cable guy's coming and there's a game on
• 29:37
  later!
• 29:37
  KARA: And Kathryn's like, sorry, girl. It's
• 29:41
  book publishing day.
• 29:41
  DANI: Yeah, she's like, I'm going
• 29:43
  to whatever, an interview. I don't actually know
• 29:45
  what she has to do.
• 29:45
  KARA: She has to start a blog and
• 29:47
  go see the editor about it.
• 29:47
  DANI: Oh, okay. And he
• 29:50
  has a tee time.
• 29:50
  KARA: She says, move it.
• 29:50
  DANI: He says, my
• 29:54
  tee time [WHINES].
• 29:54
  KARA: I know.
• 29:54
  DANI: It's got something
• 29:57
  to do with the car wash business, but she's like,
• 29:59
  okay, fine, whatever.
• 29:59
  KARA: I get it.
• 29:59
  DANI: Also, can I just
• 30:02
  say, you live with so many other people. There
• 30:05
  were seven people.
• 30:05
  KARA: Adrianna can't stay home and
• 30:09
  let the cable guy in?
• 30:09
  DANI: Right. Regina's not around?
• 30:12
  I don't know. It's just like, find someone.
• 30:14
  It's not that big of a deal.
• 30:14
  KARA: It's really not.
• 30:16
  DANI: But John's very upset.
• 30:16
  KARA: Yeah. Also, it's book
• 30:19
  release day.
• 30:19
  DANI: It's book day. It's book day.
• 30:19
  KARA: It's
• 30:22
  day of book.
• 30:22
  DANI: It's day of book. It's also back
• 30:25
  to school day.
• 30:25
  KARA: Bay has a Hello Kitty lunchbox
• 30:29
  and Daphne, I couldn't really see Daphne's lunchbox.
• 30:32
  It was either a Strawberry Shortcake or a Rainbow
• 30:34
  Brite.
• 30:34
  DANI: I don't feel that Bay would be a Hello
• 30:36
  Kitty girl.
• 30:36
  KARA: Interesting. I could see that, like
• 30:39
  anime, Sanrio.
• 30:39
  DANI: Do you know how Hello Kitty is
• 30:42
  not a cat? It's a girl?
• 30:42
  KARA: It's not a cat, it's
• 30:45
  just a girl?
• 30:45
  DANI: Yeah.
• 30:45
  KARA: A human girl?
• 30:45
  DANI: Like Hello Kitty
• 30:47
  canonically is a little girl dressed up as a
• 30:49
  cat.
• 30:49
  KARA: No, I didn't know that.
• 30:49
  DANI: Like wearing a cat
• 30:51
  costume. She's not a cat. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
• 30:55
  KARA: That is crazy.
• 30:55
  DANI: Yeah. Anyway, Bay goes to school
• 30:58
  and Simone is there. I thought that they were
• 31:00
  just going to exit Simone out. I thought they
• 31:02
  were going to write her on out.
• 31:02
  KARA: No, but Simone
• 31:04
  is chasing after Bay. And it's like, I am so
• 31:07
  sorry.
• 31:07
  DANI: Girl, give it up. The way she's like,
• 31:09
  you guys made such a cute couple. Don't let me
• 31:12
  fucking your boyfriend ruin your boyfriend and
• 31:14
  your's relationship.
• 31:14
  KARA: Like, literally, what can
• 31:16
  I do to help? And Bay goes, leave. Switch schools.
• 31:19
  DANI: I actually am obsessed with Bay just going, I
• 31:21
  want you to change schools.
• 31:21
  KARA: I think this was
• 31:23
  kind of a callback to when Simone bullied that
• 31:26
  girl so bad she had to switch schools.
• 31:26
  DANI: Yeah.
• 31:29
  KARA: I think Bay was like, your turn.
• 31:29
  DANI: Yeah, go.
• 31:29
  KARA: Bye.
• 31:32
  Yeah.
• 31:32
  DANI: Regina is visiting Angelo at the holding
• 31:37
  facility that he's in.
• 31:37
  KARA: At the ICE facility.
• 31:37
  DANI: That's
• 31:40
  five minutes from their house.
• 31:40
  KARA: That's five minutes
• 31:42
  from their house because his hearing is coming
• 31:44
  up and she brought over a suit and tie that he
• 31:47
  can wear.
• 31:47
  DANI: This sounds like a job for his lawyer.
• 31:49
  Does it not?
• 31:49
  KARA: That's a great question. I don't
• 31:52
  know.
• 31:52
  DANI: Or Bay. Send Bay over.
• 31:52
  KARA: Why Bay?
• 31:52
  DANI: So that
• 31:55
  she can get some face time with her dad.
• 31:55
  KARA: But
• 31:58
  in the ICE detention facility?
• 31:58
  DANI: She's already
• 32:00
  gone.
• 32:00
  KARA: I don't know. But Angelo's like, I'm really
• 32:03
  nervous about this. And Regina says, I have a
• 32:06
  great feeling about this. And I'm never wrong.
• 32:08
  That's literally what she says.
• 32:08
  DANI: Says the woman
• 32:10
  with the worst instincts in the world.
• 32:10
  KARA: A turned
• 32:12
  to me and said, what?
• 32:12
  DANI: I'm feeling really good
• 32:15
  about this.
• 32:15
  KARA: Okay. Yeah. Daphne, I know.
• 32:20
  We're going to be groaning.
• 32:20
  DANI: Can we spoil this
• 32:22
  plot point for people? I think we should, right,
• 32:25
  because we wanted to give a trigger warning.
• 32:25
  KARA: Yeah
• 32:27
  okay.
• 32:27
  DANI: Okay. So trigger warning what, so age—gap
• 32:32
  relationship?
• 32:32
  KARA: Daphne is going to work in a
• 32:34
  kitchen with this new character we're about to
• 32:37
  meet named Chef Jeff.
• 32:37
  DANI: And that is his name.
• 32:37
  KARA: That
• 32:40
  is his name. We're gonna call him Chef Jeff.
• 32:40
  DANI: Chef
• 32:42
  Jeff.
• 32:42
  KARA: And he, I would say canonically is about
• 32:46
  late 20s, early 30s. He's the head chef of this
• 32:49
  restaurant.
• 32:49
  DANI: I think he's 27.
• 32:49
  KARA: Great. Anyways, he
• 32:53
  is an adult and Daphne is a minor. And later
• 32:56
  on, there will be an age—gap relationship that
• 32:59
  is very inappropriate. And it seems like he has
• 33:02
  groomed her. So if this is not something you
• 33:05
  would like to listen to, that is fine because
• 33:09
  Episodes 1 through 22 do not have Chef Jeff in
• 33:12
  them.
• 33:12
  DANI: Yes. But we are going to rail against him
• 33:16
  for the rest of the season because it's so disgusting.
• 33:19
  KARA: But anyways, if you're uncomfortable or you're
• 33:21
  just not feeling up to listen to that, that's
• 33:22
  totally fine. Take care of yourself.
• 33:22
  DANI: Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:25
  So Chef Jeff is there.
• 33:25
  KARA: Played by Justin Brunin,
• 33:29
  who's in that soap opera, All My Children. Daphne's
• 33:32
  like, love you. You're amazing.
• 33:32
  DANI: Yeah, she's
• 33:35
  fangirling out.
• 33:35
  KARA: This is a fancy restaurant. It's
• 33:38
  called Maize.
• 33:38
  DANI: Yeah. It's like, it's not actually
• 33:42
  Noma, like I was exaggerating, but it's upscale
• 33:45
  fancy. Like, they're serving foam as dishes.
• 33:49
  You know a place is fancy when they're like,
• 33:52
  here's some deconstructed foam.
• 33:52
  KARA: It's $40 plus
• 33:55
  per dish.
• 33:55
  DANI: Yeah.
• 33:55
  KARA: You can guess. Chef Jeff is like,
• 34:00
  I literally don't give a fuck. Get to work. You're
• 34:03
  only here because your mommy knows someone.
• 34:03
  DANI: Yeah.
• 34:06
  And Daphne's like, oh shit, I thought this was
• 34:07
  an interview. And he's like, nope, you got the
• 34:10
  job already.
• 34:10
  KARA: And Daphne's like jumping for joy.
• 34:13
  DANI: Yeah. Also in the background, I just want to
• 34:15
  call out that one of her other co—workers is
• 34:17
  cute. I don't think anything's going to happen
• 34:19
  there, obviously, because of Daphne.
• 34:19
  KARA: Is this
• 34:21
  the one that she talks with later?
• 34:21
  DANI: Yes. Who's
• 34:23
  nice to her.
• 34:23
  KARA: Yeah.
• 34:23
  DANI: He's handsome.
• 34:23
  KARA: I think he
• 34:25
  has a crush on her, but then she's, like, no.
• 34:27
  DANI: I think they have, like, yeah, they have, like,
• 34:29
  a little friendship. And he's, like, more age
• 34:30
  —appropriate. Like, he's, I mean, still too old
• 34:33
  for her, but I think he's, like, in college.
• 34:34
  KARA: He's giving, like, freshman in college.
• 34:34
  DANI: Yeah.
• 34:37
  KARA: With, like, a job. I don't know. Or maybe, like.
• 34:40
  DANI: He's giving, like, no, he's giving, like, college.
• 34:42
  Yeah, he's giving, like, 20, 21.
• 34:42
  KARA: Okay.
• 34:42
  DANI: To me.
• 34:45
  I don't know. But also it's hard because like
• 34:47
  Katie LeClerc, the actress.
• 34:47
  KARA: Is like 23, 24
• 34:50
  while filming this.
• 34:50
  DANI: Yeah. And she looks a little
• 34:52
  bit older. Like she just like looks like an adult.
• 34:54
  KARA: But she is a child.
• 34:54
  DANI: Canonically in the show,
• 34:57
  she is a child and Chef Jeff is an adult.
• 34:57
  KARA: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Which no one talks about in this.
• 35:00
  DANI: Yeah. That's
• 35:03
  like not the issue.
• 35:03
  KARA: No. I remember even Kathryn
• 35:06
  and Regina meet him and they're like, oh, he's
• 35:08
  cute. Daphne has a cute little crush.
• 35:08
  DANI: Yeah.
• 35:10
  They're like not bothered by that. I think it's
• 35:12
  that he's her boss, isn't it? That's why they're
• 35:15
  like, this is wrong. Not because he's a grown
• 35:17
  man.
• 35:17
  KARA: Not about the age. I know. It's...
• 35:17
  DANI: [GROANS] Okay.
• 35:21
  KARA: Much to discuss.
• 35:21
  DANI: Okay, wait. This was happening
• 35:22
  a lot. Let's talk about this more. Let's unpack
• 35:25
  this. This was happening a lot in. — wasn't Pretty
• 35:28
  Little Liars also ABC Family?
• 35:28
  KARA: Yes, with Ezra.
• 35:31
  DANI: Yeah, and you were supposed to root for that
• 35:33
  relationship.
• 35:33
  KARA: Yeah, we loved him and Ari together.
• 35:36
  And now we're like, that's insane. He's a freak.
• 35:38
  DANI: So, like, were they trying to, like, groom young
• 35:41
  women to be like, it's completely normal that
• 35:43
  my, like, 27—year—old boss slash teacher is
• 35:46
  my boyfriend?
• 35:46
  KARA: I don't know.
• 35:46
  DANI: That, like, seems
• 35:48
  insane.
• 35:48
  KARA: It's so—
• 35:48
  DANI: Like, I understand them trying
• 35:52
  to be like, ooh, like, like sexy forbidden
• 35:55
  love. I get that like forbidden love was like
• 35:57
  a big theme. Again, Twilight's happening during this
• 35:59
  era and obviously Edward is canonically like
• 36:02
  109 years old but it's different contextually
• 36:05
  because he's a 17 year old.
• 36:05
  KARA: He's a vampire, whatever.
• 36:07
  DANI: Yeah this is, it's different when it's your predator
• 36:11
  boss.
• 36:11
  KARA: Or your teacher?
• 36:11
  DANI: Yeah your teacher is fucking
• 36:16
  insane because it's even, I think for Jeff, doesn't
• 36:20
  Daphne like lie about the fact that she's in
• 36:22
  high school? Doesn't he not know and she's—
• 36:22
  KARA: I think
• 36:26
  she does lie to him.
• 36:26
  DANI: Not to defend him but
• 36:28
  like there's some context where it's like he
• 36:31
  thinks she's like 19.
• 36:31
  KARA: Yeah and then he's like
• 36:34
  uh oh but then I think he still is like, I like you
• 36:37
  anyway.
• 36:37
  DANI: No yeah yeah yeah. After he finds— but I
• 36:39
  think that's how they try to justify it, is being
• 36:41
  like well he didn't know when he fell for her.
• 36:43
  What, gross, okay. You can tell she's wearing a
• 36:46
  side braid, sorry.
• 36:46
  KARA: The whole time.
• 36:46
  DANI: She's wearing
• 36:49
  a side braid. That's a teenager. That's a 16—year—
• 36:53
  —old girl.
• 36:53
  KARA: I know.
• 36:53
  DANI: But, yeah, this was a thing
• 36:55
  on Pretty Little Liars. I didn't watch. So I
• 36:57
  only now see the clips of people being like,
• 37:00
  oh, my God, can you believe we were all, like,
• 37:02
  rooting for this?
• 37:02
  KARA: I know. I remember thinking
• 37:04
  Ezra was hot.
• 37:04
  DANI: Well, yeah.
• 37:04
  KARA: I know. It's messed
• 37:06
  up.
• 37:06
  DANI: Okay.
• 37:06
  KARA: After school, after Simone and that
• 37:10
  whole thing with Bay is like, why don't you just
• 37:12
  switch schools and fuck off? Bay storms home,
• 37:15
  and she's about to text Emmett. She whips out her
• 37:18
  phone. She types in Emmett, but then she's like,
• 37:20
  Emmett, put the phone down. Smart. Smart. I think.
• 37:23
  Then she goes into a closet and she picks up
• 37:25
  the box where she threw the letter in. And she's
• 37:27
  also going to look through pictures of her and
• 37:29
  Emmett wistfully.
• 37:29
  DANI: The same damn photo. The amount
• 37:32
  of times I've had to see this selfie of them
• 37:34
  on the fucking motorcycle.
• 37:34
  KARA: In the junkyard. Enough.
• 37:37
  DANI: Enough! And you know why they're pulling out
• 37:39
  that photo? Because that was the only damn time
• 37:41
  they were happy together as a couple.
• 37:41
  KARA: Literally.
• 37:43
  DANI: It's that and them like fighting with swords
• 37:45
  right after he fucking cheated on her.
• 37:45
  KARA: The only
• 37:48
  two times.
• 37:48
  DANI: The only two times they had fun together.
• 37:51
  KARA: She opens the letter.
• 37:51
  DANI: Yeah.
• 37:51
  KARA: And there's directions
• 37:54
  somewhere.
• 37:54
  DANI: And she drives straight there.
• 37:54
  KARA: Yeah,
• 37:57
  she gets in The Thing and drives to like a warehouse.
• 38:01
  DANI: Yeah, it's just like a nondescript lot.
• 38:01
  KARA: And we
• 38:05
  see art now, street art. And it's the timeline
• 38:08
  of their relationship. And we also get a beautiful
• 38:10
  timeline check here. It says, first meet, June
• 38:14
  2011. First kiss, September 2011. First birthday
• 38:19
  surprise. October 2011. First I love you. February
• 38:23
  2012. Then Emmett makes a mistake, which must
• 38:27
  be May, June 2012. And then Bay forgives Emmett.
• 38:33
  Bay and Emmett forever.
• 38:33
  DANI: What do you mean they
• 38:36
  met in June? That's what it says?
• 38:36
  KARA: It says first
• 38:39
  meet in June and it has a picture of eyes.
• 38:39
  DANI: Right.
• 38:42
  Okay. That's all fine and well. When they met,
• 38:45
  school was already in session because Bay was
• 38:48
  going to school. Because Bay was still dating
• 38:50
  Liam and broke up with. The first episode, they're
• 38:53
  in school taking the blood test.
• 38:53
  KARA: Yeah.
• 38:53
  DANI: And then
• 38:56
  it's a couple of weeks later. And then Daphne
• 38:59
  moves in. And the same episode that Daphne moves
• 39:02
  in and they meet Emmett. First of all, they meet
• 39:05
  Emmett because Emmett comes to pick Daphne up
• 39:07
  for school.
• 39:07
  KARA: Maybe it's the very end. But that
• 39:10
  doesn't make sense. It's the very end of the
• 39:12
  school year.
• 39:12
  DANI: But then we don't have summer because
• 39:15
  they're in school.
• 39:15
  KARA: But then summer doesn't happen.
• 39:17
  DANI: So the show fucked up. That's why I'm saying,
• 39:19
  like, timeline check, it doesn't count.
• 39:19
  KARA: No.
• 39:19
  DANI: The
• 39:22
  show fucked up. They did not meet in June. Because
• 39:25
  school was happening.
• 39:25
  KARA: Or did they— Or maybe it
• 39:28
  happened off screen. Or they met.
• 39:28
  DANI: We saw them
• 39:31
  meet for the first time. For sure, they did.
• 39:33
  Because we see Emmett go, who's that? And Daphne's
• 39:35
  like, me, in another life.
• 39:35
  KARA: Yeah, that's right.
• 39:38
  DANI: And then the next episode, he's picking up Daphne
• 39:41
  from school. Guys, watch your own show. I understand
• 39:45
  when they wrote this episode, it had been a while
• 39:47
  since they wrote the pilot. But, like, come on.
• 39:49
  Let's lock in a little.
• 39:49
  KARA: They could have had them
• 39:52
  meet in September and maybe just cram everything
• 39:54
  shorter.
• 39:54
  DANI: Right. The way that it was. It was crammed.
• 39:57
  KARA: Yeah.
• 39:57
  DANI: Be accurate. Secondly, this art is ugly.
• 40:01
  KARA: Oof.
• 40:01
  DANI: It's really ugly. It's childish and it's
• 40:05
  giving, like, Bay's, like, sketches.
• 40:05
  KARA: It's giving
• 40:07
  Bay sketches. I think it's the thought. I thought
• 40:09
  it was sweet.
• 40:09
  DANI: Like, yes, the thought counts,
• 40:12
  but, like, Emmett is a good artist.
• 40:12
  KARA: Is he?
• 40:12
  DANI: Well,
• 40:15
  he managed to put up her birthday graffiti.
• 40:15
  KARA: Right,
• 40:19
  but we don't know how he did that. Like, if that
• 40:20
  was a stencil of Bay's already.
• 40:20
  DANI: He's like a photographer.
• 40:23
  I'm just like, I don't know. I think he could
• 40:24
  have done better. He's not a good photographer
• 40:27
  either. Okay, the art is bad.
• 40:27
  KARA: Maybe Bay looks
• 40:30
  at that and goes, that's shit, actually. I don't
• 40:32
  want to be with him.
• 40:32
  DANI: I think I would have looked
• 40:34
  at that and been like, not only is it bad, but
• 40:37
  he made such a big stink about, like, I can't
• 40:39
  do street art with you anymore. I don't want
• 40:41
  to get arrested because of you again. So for
• 40:43
  him to go and do more of it feels insane.
• 40:43
  KARA: I was
• 40:47
  thinking that, too. I'm like, so you're going
• 40:48
  to do the thing that you got arrested for? All
• 40:50
  right.
• 40:50
  DANI: That you, like, made Bay's problem. You
• 40:53
  know?
• 40:53
  KARA: I just...Emmett.
• 40:53
  DANI: I understand he's trying
• 40:57
  to do a grand gesture. This felt like the wrong
• 40:59
  one.
• 40:59
  KARA: I agree. I was like, the gesture's sweet.
• 41:03
  I just don't know. And it doesn't even work at
• 41:05
  the end.
• 41:05
  DANI: No. Because she doesn't— it's not even
• 41:07
  like she goes straight to him to be like, what
• 41:09
  the fuck? She like really.
• 41:09
  KARA: She ponders.
• 41:09
  DANI: She ponders.
• 41:11
  KARA: She does ponder. Daphne comes back home after
• 41:15
  her first day on the job. And she tells Kathryn,
• 41:17
  she's like, Mom, I had the best day ever.
• 41:17
  DANI: Yeah.
• 41:20
  KARA: Thank you. Thank you for giving me this job.
• 41:21
  DANI: She's telling her about family meal.
• 41:21
  KARA: Yeah. She
• 41:24
  just discovered what family meal is.
• 41:24
  DANI: She just
• 41:26
  discovered family meal. And she said the best
• 41:28
  part, I didn't have to cook it.
• 41:28
  KARA: Yeah. So now
• 41:31
  she's in the kitchen. It's like her second day
• 41:34
  at work or something. We have a coworker friend.
• 41:36
  We don't know his name yet.
• 41:36
  DANI: No, but he's cute.
• 41:38
  KARA: And he's prepping raw chicken. And Daphne is
• 41:41
  trimming artichokes. And the guy is like, oh,
• 41:44
  I didn't realize there was artichoke on the menu
• 41:46
  tonight. And Daphne's like, yeah, they told me
• 41:47
  to prep it. And then Jeff approaches and he's
• 41:50
  like, you dumb bitch. I said haricot vert.
• 41:50
  DANI: I
• 41:54
  don't know what that is. When he was like, do
• 41:56
  you not know what haricot vert is? I was literally
• 41:58
  like, no, I don't.
• 41:58
  KARA: It's green beans.
• 41:58
  DANI: Just say
• 42:01
  green beans!
• 42:01
  KARA: Yeah. And then at that exact moment,
• 42:05
  another cook says, behind, but Daphne, of course,
• 42:10
  can't hear. And they bump into each other and
• 42:12
  all the food falls on the floor. It's upsetting.
• 42:16
  And then Jeff kind of kicks her when she's down
• 42:18
  and he's like, get out of my kitchen. Daphne
• 42:21
  looks crazy with her side ponytail.
• 42:21
  DANI: That's not
• 42:23
  going to keep your hair out of the food.
• 42:23
  KARA: I was
• 42:25
  just thinking that. Your hair needs to be up
• 42:27
  in a way.
• 42:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 42:27
  KARA: No hairnets in this kitchen,
• 42:30
  guys. No gloves either.
• 42:30
  DANI: No. So Chef Jeff.
• 42:30
  KARA: She
• 42:35
  goes, so this happened. The artichoke thing happened
• 42:38
  because you didn't face me when you speak. So
• 42:40
  one reasonable request I would like is that you
• 42:43
  face me when you speak. And he's like, no.
• 42:43
  DANI: He
• 42:45
  literally just goes, no.
• 42:45
  KARA: This is my kitchen.
• 42:49
  I'll do whatever the fuck I want. And then he
• 42:51
  goes on like this rant.
• 42:51
  DANI: Yeah. My favorite part
• 42:55
  about this rant, like it's so stupid, is him
• 42:58
  like kind of flexing on himself as he's doing
• 43:02
  it. He goes, I can't be a jockey because I'm
• 43:04
  6'4.
• 43:04
  KARA: He goes, you can't do everything. I can't
• 43:07
  be a jockey because I'm too hot and tall.
• 43:07
  DANI: Yeah.
• 43:09
  He's like, my sister can't be on Broadway because
• 43:11
  she don't sing so good.
• 43:11
  KARA: Is that
• 43:14
  what he says?
• 43:14
  DANI: She don't sing?
• 43:14
  KARA: Okay. And you can't
• 43:17
  be a cook because you're Deaf, basically. You
• 43:19
  know, it's very, like, gross and paternalistic.
• 43:21
  Very discriminatory language, too.
• 43:21
  DANI: Yeah.
• 43:21
  KARA: And
• 43:23
  then he says, fuck the ADA. Go wash dishes. So
• 43:26
  under the ADA, there's an essential functions
• 43:29
  rule. So Daphne just needs to be able to do the
• 43:31
  essential functions of a job. And if she was
• 43:33
  hired as a prep cook, let's assume she was hired
• 43:35
  as a prep cook.
• 43:35
  DANI: Yeah.
• 43:35
  KARA: Her essential function
• 43:37
  is wiping down the kitchen counters and, like,
• 43:40
  prepping veggies. So, if she's tired to work
• 43:44
  in the kitchen, they need to first try to accommodate
• 43:47
  her so she can do these essential functions.
• 43:49
  Have the mirror or have a separate workstation
• 43:52
  so people aren't bumping into her. Also, kitchen
• 43:56
  accidents happen all the time, even to hearing
• 43:58
  people. And just using one incident.
• 43:58
  DANI: In The Bear,
• 44:02
  Ayo's character stabs Cousin.
• 44:02
  KARA: Using one incident
• 44:06
  to justify her being demoted to dishwasher is
• 44:09
  discriminatory, obviously. I just need her to,
• 44:12
  like, talk to the general manager. There's no
• 44:14
  general manager cast in the show.
• 44:14
  DANI: No. This is
• 44:17
  his restaurant. Like, he is the, I think the
• 44:21
  buck stops with him. Although that doesn't make
• 44:23
  sense because then he's like, well, you have
• 44:24
  a friend in high places. So she was hired against
• 44:27
  his will.
• 44:27
  KARA: Yeah, he didn't hire her.
• 44:27
  DANI: It's kind
• 44:29
  of giving the same situation with the basketball
• 44:31
  coach.
• 44:31
  KARA: Yeah.
• 44:31
  DANI: Who was, like, forced to have her
• 44:33
  on the team.
• 44:33
  KARA: Yeah, but we don't know the principal,
• 44:36
  you know?
• 44:36
  DANI: Yeah, exactly.
• 44:36
  KARA: Yeah, you're right.
• 44:39
  Okay, we'll get back to this. Because Kathryn
• 44:42
  returns home from a book thing. And John
• 44:44
  is like, where's my baked ziti?
• 44:44
  DANI: It's really bad.
• 44:47
  I feel like they're regressing John's character
• 44:49
  for the sake of this.
• 44:49
  KARA: It is crazy.
• 44:49
  DANI: He's like,
• 44:52
  what's for dinner? And he's just like chilling
• 44:54
  at the computer.
• 44:54
  KARA: She's like, so you could be
• 44:56
  cooking right now if you wanted to.
• 44:56
  DANI: Yeah.
• 44:56
  KARA: It's
• 44:59
  not that hard. And John's like, this book is
• 45:01
  such a commitment. I thought like once it was
• 45:03
  book day, it'd be done.
• 45:03
  DANI: He's like, book day happened
• 45:06
  two days ago. Aren't we done with book?
• 45:06
  KARA: And Kathryn's
• 45:09
  like, so book just started.
• 45:09
  DANI: Book just begins
• 45:12
  now.
• 45:12
  KARA: Yeah. I need to do tours. I need to do signings.
• 45:17
  I need to go speak on TV.
• 45:17
  DANI: And then she's like,
• 45:19
  and once this is done, I'm going to do something
• 45:22
  else, by the way.
• 45:22
  KARA: Because I love being a working
• 45:24
  woman.
• 45:24
  DANI: Yeah.
• 45:24
  KARA: Respect.
• 45:24
  DANI: Girl boss.
• 45:24
  KARA: And John's like,
• 45:27
  things are changing around here.
• 45:27
  DANI: Yeah. And she's
• 45:30
  like, okay, get used to it. And he's like, I
• 45:33
  will. To his credit a little bit. He goes, I'll
• 45:35
  adjust.
• 45:35
  KARA: I think he's just surprised at how much
• 45:38
  of a commitment it was.
• 45:38
  DANI: Someone teach John how
• 45:40
  to order delivery Thai food.
• 45:40
  KARA: Or boil water and
• 45:44
  pour pasta in.
• 45:44
  DANI: Sure.
• 45:44
  KARA: You know?
• 45:44
  DANI: Or Thai food.
• 45:47
  KARA: Bay and Alex are on a date and she's finally
• 45:50
  giving him the tea and she's telling him about
• 45:53
  Angelo.
• 45:53
  DANI: This was so unfair. She was just like,
• 45:56
  oh, I just like wish you'd been there. Like he's
• 45:58
  trying to ask questions and she's like. You just,
• 46:00
  like, kind of had to be there. I don't know.
• 46:02
  It's like, okay. KARA He's like, I don't get it.
• 46:04
  So is Angelo gay? And she's like, no, that's
• 46:07
  the other Angelo.
• 46:07
  DANI: She's like, I just wish you'd
• 46:09
  been there. You'd lived it with me.
• 46:09
  KARA: She's yearning
• 46:11
  for Emmett. And then they go back to talking
• 46:13
  about sea turtles.
• 46:13
  DANI: But I actually think, and
• 46:15
  we'll find this to be true, that it would be
• 46:17
  good for her to date someone who maybe wasn't
• 46:20
  there for all that drama. Because it's, like,
• 46:22
  good to have someone that's separate from it.
• 46:24
  KARA: That's true. No Ty and no Emmett. Daphne returns
• 46:27
  home from work after having an awful day. And
• 46:30
  Kathryn's like, how'd it go? Did you have a
• 46:32
  family meal? Did you make mussels? And I like
• 46:34
  the way she signed mussels, like the food, but
• 46:36
  she points to like the muscles on her biceps.
• 46:39
  It was really cute. And Daphne goes, nothing
• 46:40
  happened, bye.
• 46:40
  DANI: When Daphne's down. She's real
• 46:43
  down.
• 46:43
  KARA: And she doesn't let anyone help her.
• 46:43
  DANI: No,
• 46:47
  she like—
• 46:47
  KARA: It's giving episode six where she
• 46:50
  worked in that kitchen at Buckner.
• 46:50
  DANI: Yes.
• 46:50
  KARA: But she
• 46:53
  had that cooking class.
• 46:53
  DANI: Yeah.
• 46:53
  KARA: So sad.
• 46:53
  DANI: She, like,
• 46:56
  looks like a sad little puppy.
• 46:56
  KARA: I know. I get
• 46:59
  that she doesn't want Mommy fighting for her,
• 47:01
  but this is workplace discrimination.
• 47:01
  DANI: Yeah, Daphne
• 47:05
  feels a very specific way. She's sort of a, like,
• 47:10
  bootstraps.
• 47:10
  KARA: Yeah.
• 47:10
  DANI: Deaf person.
• 47:10
  KARA: She really is. She's—
• 47:14
  DANI: Like there's a specific term for that. I know
• 47:17
  that that's like— we were talking about that when
• 47:18
  it came to Trash.
• 47:18
  KARA: Yeah, that's exactly what I was
• 47:21
  thinking right now. She's basically like I don't
• 47:23
  want to be like the other Deaf people who have
• 47:25
  all these hardships and they're being discriminated
• 47:27
  against. I'm different.
• 47:27
  DANI: It's like calling back
• 47:29
  to her telling Travis to go sell pencils at the
• 47:32
  airport and then sue people when they don't buy
• 47:34
  them.
• 47:34
  KARA: Right, it's very strange.
• 47:34
  DANI: Yeah.
• 47:34
  KARA: I just. Part
• 47:39
  of me wants to shake her by the shoulders and
• 47:41
  be like, Daphne, first of all, you need a community.
• 47:44
  DANI: Yeah, she does.
• 47:44
  KARA: Of people to talk to.
• 47:44
  DANI: And she
• 47:47
  also—
• 47:47
  KARA: We don't know— she doesn't speak to anyone
• 47:49
  about this at Carlton. She didn't speak to Emmett
• 47:51
  about this.
• 47:51
  DANI: No.
• 47:51
  KARA: Nor does she really have any
• 47:53
  adult Deaf role models besides Melody.
• 47:53
  DANI: Yeah.
• 47:57
  KARA: That she could talk to about experiencing workplace
• 48:00
  discrimination. Like, I think there should have
• 48:02
  been a scene either this episode or the next
• 48:04
  to be like work sucks and here's why and Melody
• 48:07
  could provide some advice.
• 48:07
  DANI: Yeah it's very frustrating.
• 48:11
  KARA: Yeah.
• 48:11
  DANI: To watch her go through it because yes, she
• 48:14
  is unwilling to let anyone else advocate for
• 48:17
  her but then I also feel that she is slow to
• 48:20
  advocate for herself.
• 48:20
  KARA: Yeah.
• 48:20
  DANI: In this situation. Which
• 48:24
  I get. She's coming into a kitchen. It's a job
• 48:27
  that the chef already is like, I don't want you
• 48:29
  here. You were forced upon me by nepotism. Whatever.
• 48:33
  Take away her being Deaf. She's still— I guess
• 48:36
  they don't know she's in high school— but like
• 48:37
  she's still like a young girl that like was forced
• 48:40
  into this kitchen role against the chef's will,
• 48:43
  whatever. And then I feel like up front to not
• 48:46
  be like, I need to you to face me when you're
• 48:49
  speaking.
• 48:49
  KARA: Yes.
• 48:49
  DANI: By the way, one small accommodation
• 48:52
  I need. I need you to look at me when you talk.
• 48:54
  KARA: And a very reasonable accommodation.
• 48:54
  DANI: Yeah, very
• 48:57
  reasonable.
• 48:57
  KARA: Yeah, I wrote a list of potential
• 48:59
  accommodations that the kitchen could do.
• 48:59
  DANI: Please,
• 49:02
  let's hear it.
• 49:02
  KARA: For tickets, have digital tickets
• 49:05
  or write them down. Have prep written down. So
• 49:09
  instead of Chef Jeff being like, Daphne, do the
• 49:10
  haricot vert. He can write down like, so—and
• 49:13
  —so is doing the chicken. So—and—so is doing
• 49:15
  the onions. So—and—so is doing haricot vert.
• 49:18
  DANI: I feel that that would be helpful for the whole
• 49:19
  kitchen.
• 49:19
  KARA: Literally everyone.
• 49:19
  DANI: What is that called?
• 49:21
  It's like a term where when you make an accommodation.
• 49:25
  Everyone benefits.
• 49:25
  KARA: It's like universal design, it's
• 49:28
  the curb cut effect?
• 49:28
  DANI: Yes, the curb cut effect.
• 49:30
  KARA: It's a curb cut effect.
• 49:30
  DANI: The curb cut effect.
• 49:32
  Everyone fucking loves a curb cut.
• 49:32
  KARA: Yeah, it benefits
• 49:35
  everyone. Not just people in wheelchairs, but
• 49:37
  for people who have—
• 49:37
  DANI: People with strollers,
• 49:38
  people with bikes.
• 49:38
  DANI: Yeah. People with all kinds
• 49:40
  of disabilities, but also just people, like,
• 49:42
  people in heels who don't want to step off the
• 49:44
  curb.
• 49:44
  KARA: Yeah.
• 49:44
  DANI: Like, it benefits everyone.
• 49:44
  KARA: Yeah,
• 49:47
  so the same thing with, like, writing prep on
• 49:48
  the board or having digital orders or things like
• 49:50
  that.
• 49:50
  DANI: Or, like, I like when the movies have captions.
• 49:55
  I would prefer it if the movie theaters would
• 49:57
  mostly have captions. That would be very nice
• 50:00
  for everyone. Also, because sound design in film
• 50:03
  is getting worse. And that is like an actual—
• 50:05
  it's same with lighting design. But sometimes
• 50:08
  I need a little help to understand, follow what's
• 50:10
  going on.
• 50:10
  KARA: Oh, my God. Yeah. It's so dark.
• 50:10
  DANI: Yeah.
• 50:14
  I can't see anything or it's so bright. It's
• 50:16
  too bright. There's no mood lighting. Anyway,
• 50:19
  curb cut effect. Beneficial for everyone. I feel
• 50:22
  if I was working in that kitchen, I would love
• 50:24
  if all my instructions were also written down
• 50:25
  in case I forget something.
• 50:25
  KARA: Yeah.
• 50:25
  DANI: Because I'm
• 50:27
  not actually great at listening to instructions
• 50:30
  and then remembering them.
• 50:30
  KARA: No.
• 50:30
  DANI: That's not the
• 50:32
  way I process things. So...
• 50:32
  KARA: I used to always
• 50:34
  get stressed watching Hell's Kitchen because
• 50:36
  Gordon Ramsay would read, like, one risotto and
• 50:39
  two steak, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 50:41
  blah. And everyone goes, yes, chef. There's
• 50:43
  no way I remember that.
• 50:43
  DANI: Also, waiters write things
• 50:46
  down. Like, they write the ticket down.
• 50:46
  KARA: But then
• 50:48
  usually they read it out loud.
• 50:48
  DANI: Do they? Oh, I
• 50:51
  don't like that system. I would be really bad
• 50:53
  in a kitchen.
• 50:53
  KARA: I think now it's changed.
• 50:53
  DANI: Right,
• 50:56
  with technology.
• 50:56
  KARA: Because usually they'll just,
• 50:57
  like, they input the order into the POS system
• 51:00
  and then it comes up.
• 51:00
  DANI: Yes.
• 51:00
  KARA: Written down. And
• 51:02
  then they just read it.
• 51:02
  DANI: Yes. But I don't even
• 51:05
  think Daphne's plate— like she's not plating
• 51:07
  things. She's just doing prep.
• 51:07
  KARA: She's just prepping
• 51:09
  so all they have to do is write down I need you
• 51:12
  to prep these five things tonight.
• 51:12
  DANI: Yeah, and it's
• 51:14
  a good call that yeah she doesn't really need
• 51:16
  to be moving around the kitchen if they have
• 51:17
  her at one station.
• 51:17
  KARA: No.
• 51:17
  DANI: So she doesn't need to
• 51:20
  be worried about bumping into people.
• 51:20
  KARA: No.
• 51:20
  DANI: And the
• 51:23
  mirror is a great idea.
• 51:23
  KARA: The mirror is a great
• 51:25
  idea which she does do herself with no help from
• 51:27
  the restaurant.
• 51:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 51:27
  KARA: Whatever. Whatever. Back on
• 51:31
  the date with Alex and Bay, Bay sees a motorcycle
• 51:33
  and she goes, God, I miss him. Alex, I'm breaking
• 51:36
  up.
• 51:36
  DANI: Alex is talking and she shoots to the side. I
• 51:40
  feel so bad.
• 51:40
  KARA: Then she turns to him and she's
• 51:42
  like, Alex. And he goes, I know.
• 51:42
  DANI: He goes, I know.
• 51:45
  It's that Deaf James Dean, right?
• 51:45
  KARA: It's not you.
• 51:48
  It's me. I get it. You want to break up. And
• 51:49
  she's like, yeah, I'm sorry.
• 51:49
  DANI: Also, they have
• 51:52
  nothing in common.
• 51:52
  KARA: No. Oh, he's vacation boyfriend.
• 51:55
  DANI: He's vacation boyfriend. It's really important
• 51:57
  to learn that vacation boyfriends rock, but you
• 52:00
  can't bring them home.
• 52:00
  KARA: And that's beautiful.
• 52:02
  DANI: That's beautiful.
• 52:02
  KARA: She's young.
• 52:02
  DANI: Let it be a forever
• 52:05
  encapsulated beautiful thing.
• 52:05
  KARA: Yeah.
• 52:05
  DANI: It's like
• 52:07
  high school relationships. You're supposed to
• 52:09
  sort of leave them there.
• 52:09
  KARA: Some people don't.
• 52:11
  DANI: I know. And they regret it usually.
• 52:11
  KARA: Sure.
• 52:11
  DANI: Do
• 52:14
  you know a lot of high school sweethearts?
• 52:14
  KARA: I
• 52:16
  know a couple.
• 52:16
  DANI: Wow. Good for them. Sometimes
• 52:19
  there's an exception to the rule.
• 52:19
  KARA: Sometimes there
• 52:21
  is. Now Daphne is swimming laps at the pool.
• 52:25
  And Toby says, hey, girl. Hey, sister. What's
• 52:28
  up? And Daphne tells him about the kitchen and
• 52:30
  how much it sucks.
• 52:30
  DANI: And Toby says, that's discrimination.
• 52:34
  She says, I got demoted to dishwasher. And he's
• 52:37
  like, well, that's illegal. And she goes, it's
• 52:39
  not, because he says it's unsafe for me. Like,
• 52:42
  I'm not safe in the kitchen. And then Toby goes,
• 52:46
  well, he isn't right, is he?
• 52:46
  KARA: Why would you ask
• 52:48
  that?
• 52:48
  DANI: [GROANS] Toby.
• 52:48
  KARA: And then Daphne goes on a great rant
• 52:52
  where she's like, the least he could do is face
• 52:55
  me. Maybe learn some signs, like the sign for chicken
• 52:58
  or cook or cut, like it's literally not that hard.
• 53:02
  Deaf people get pigeonholed. They're underemployed
• 53:05
  into jobs like janitor or a truck driver, and I'm going
• 53:09
  to end up being a truck driver.
• 53:09
  DANI: Yeah. It's like,
• 53:11
  no, you're not, queen.
• 53:11
  KARA: Right.
• 53:11
  DANI: We've seen her
• 53:14
  get in, like, two car accidents.
• 53:14
  KARA: Right. You're
• 53:16
  going to be an awful truck driver.
• 53:16
  DANI: You're not
• 53:17
  going to be a truck driver.
• 53:17
  KARA: Also, you can't hear
• 53:19
  the radio, girl.
• 53:19
  DANI: Is the radio an important part
• 53:22
  of truck driving?
• 53:22
  KARA: I feel like it is.
• 53:22
  DANI: I have honestly
• 53:25
  no clue.
• 53:25
  KARA: I don't know. I wrote down some—
• 53:25
  DANI: I just
• 53:28
  feel like it would suck to be a Deaf truck driver
• 53:29
  because you couldn't even listen to podcasts
• 53:31
  while you're driving.
• 53:31
  KARA: Can't listen to music.
• 53:33
  Can't listen to Dished at Birth.
• 53:33
  DANI: Oh, my God.
• 53:33
  KARA: What
• 53:36
  would you do?
• 53:36
  DANI: That's awful.
• 53:36
  KARA: I know. I wrote down
• 53:38
  some statistics, though.
• 53:38
  DANI: Okay.
• 53:38
  KARA: According to the
• 53:41
  National Deaf Center, 57.7% of Deaf adults
• 53:44
  in America are employed compared to 72% of hearing
• 53:48
  adults. Many Deaf people are underemployed. And
• 53:52
  by that, I mean they end up in jobs below their
• 53:54
  skill or education level due to perceived communication
• 53:57
  barriers. So, yeah, very true life.
• 53:57
  DANI: Yeah.
• 53:57
  KARA: But
• 54:01
  Toby then says, but you're not like other girls.
• 54:04
  You're different. And also because you're rich
• 54:06
  and privileged. Don't forget that.
• 54:06
  DANI: Don't forget
• 54:08
  about that. That's new to her.
• 54:08
  KARA: Yeah.
• 54:08
  DANI: She doesn't
• 54:11
  know yet that she can take advantage of that
• 54:14
  system.
• 54:14
  KARA: And Kathryn's going to because the
• 54:15
  very next scene, we're at the restaurant.
• 54:15
  DANI: Yes.
• 54:18
  KARA: And Kathryn—
• 54:18
  DANI: Kathryn storms in. She's ready
• 54:20
  to Karen out.
• 54:20
  KARA: I guess Toby—
• 54:20
  DANI: She's like, let
• 54:21
  me speak to the manager. Yeah. Toby tells her.
• 54:24
  KARA: Toby told her off screen. She comes in and she
• 54:26
  goes, I can't believe. This is her sense of justice.
• 54:29
  You know, like, he can't do that. He can't discriminate.
• 54:32
  You know, like with Justina, they were like,
• 54:35
  they can't fire you.
• 54:35
  DANI: Exactly. Yes. She has a
• 54:37
  strong sense of justice.
• 54:37
  KARA: Yeah. And Daphne says
• 54:42
  he can actually because I'm considered unsafe.
• 54:45
  This girl needs to talk to NAD, like the National
• 54:47
  Association of the Deaf. The National Association
• 54:50
  of the Deaf has a law and advocacy center that
• 54:52
  provides free counseling support. Okay?
• 54:52
  DANI: Shout
• 54:56
  out.
• 54:56
  KARA: And then Kathryn's like, well, what if
• 54:58
  I hire an interpreter? And Daphne, I understandably
• 55:01
  get it. It's like, it's too crowded in there.
• 55:03
  It's just going to get in the way.
• 55:03
  DANI: Also, she
• 55:05
  doesn't really need an interpreter.
• 55:05
  KARA: She just
• 55:08
  needs him to face her.
• 55:08
  DANI: She just needs him to
• 55:11
  very clearly explain what — just use the word
• 55:15
  green bean, you fucking prick.
• 55:15
  KARA: I know.
• 55:15
  DANI: Yeah,
• 55:19
  she doesn't need an interpreter to interpret
• 55:21
  behind when someone's behind.
• 55:21
  KARA: No.
• 55:21
  DANI: But she gets
• 55:24
  it together. She puts the mirror up. It's just
• 55:26
  she shouldn't have to.
• 55:26
  KARA: No. But Kathryn's like,
• 55:29
  let me talk to Chef Jeff. And Kathryn's like,
• 55:31
  not Kathryn. Daphne's like, get out.
• 55:31
  DANI: Yeah.
• 55:34
  KARA: Please leave.
• 55:34
  DANI: And Chef Jeff comes out and is
• 55:36
  like, do we have a problem? And Daphne's like,
• 55:38
  no. No. And then you can kind of see Jeff, like,
• 55:42
  earn a little glimmer of respect for her in that
• 55:45
  moment, I guess.
• 55:45
  KARA: How so?
• 55:45
  DANI: I mean, not in a good
• 55:48
  way.
• 55:48
  KARA: Because she wasn't telling Mommy.
• 55:48
  DANI: Yes, exactly.
• 55:51
  Because he comes out being like, so she told
• 55:53
  Mommy. And then realizes.
• 55:53
  KARA: Oh, she didn't tell
• 55:56
  Mommy.
• 55:56
  DANI: She didn't tell Mommy. Right. So. Yeah.
• 56:00
  KARA: Now we're at Patrick's apartment. And he and
• 56:03
  Regina are getting ready to fuck. She's taking
• 56:06
  off the wrist brace.
• 56:06
  DANI: We do not need to be seeing
• 56:08
  this. I know. Like, why is he sensually unbuttoning
• 56:12
  his shirt? Okay, we already have the hottest
• 56:15
  man alive, the actor playing Angelo.
• 56:15
  KARA: Sure.
• 56:15
  DANI: We
• 56:18
  don't need to see this, like, sad, white bread
• 56:21
  man. He's so blah, nothing, whatever. And then,
• 56:24
  like, Regina is, like, pulling off her shoes.
• 56:28
  And he's like, oh, you're quick to it tonight
• 56:30
  or something. Like, it's so gross.
• 56:30
  KARA: I know.
• 56:30
  DANI: It's
• 56:32
  making my skin crawl. She was, like sliding
• 56:35
  her wrist brace.
• 56:35
  KARA: He's like, wow, really getting sexy
• 56:38
  tonight.
• 56:38
  DANI: I don't want to shame. And we didn't
• 56:40
  see. And maybe it happened off screen. But I
• 56:42
  feel like Patrick is being given, like, a boyfriend
• 56:45
  arc, but then we only ever see them meeting up
• 56:48
  to fuck at his apartment. And she never is, like,
• 56:51
  staying for breakfast.
• 56:51
  KARA: Or eating ice cream.
• 56:51
  DANI: Yeah,
• 56:52
  I guess that one time they were getting ice cream
• 56:54
  and, like, he showed up to Daphne's game. But,
• 56:56
  like, we don't see them out at meals together
• 56:58
  or, like, at her place, like, hanging around.
• 57:02
  It's literally just her pulling up to, like,
• 57:05
  booty call and then leave.
• 57:05
  KARA: Which is surprising
• 57:07
  because Patrick then turns to her and he's like,
• 57:09
  you rock and I want to be with you forever.
• 57:09
  DANI: I
• 57:11
  don't know.
• 57:11
  KARA: And Regina's like, oh, okay. Thanks.
• 57:15
  DANI: But I don't want to marry you.
• 57:15
  KARA: Yeah. Bay, after
• 57:18
  leaving Alex and breaking up with him, is sitting
• 57:21
  outside on top of the hood of The Thing. And
• 57:24
  Emmett pulls up.
• 57:24
  DANI: It's at their, like, makeout
• 57:26
  spot that you were talking about. How they have
• 57:28
  that spot off the road.
• 57:28
  KARA: A random spot at night
• 57:31
  in front of, like, some telephone wires.
• 57:31
  DANI: And
• 57:33
  she's chilling there. Clearly she asked him to
• 57:35
  meet up.
• 57:35
  KARA: And yeah, he, and then he takes off
• 57:38
  his helmet. He's like, oh my God, I'm so happy
• 57:40
  to see you.
• 57:40
  DANI: Yeah.
• 57:40
  KARA: This is amazing.
• 57:40
  DANI: He literally
• 57:42
  thinks that they're like going to get back together
• 57:45
  right now.
• 57:45
  KARA: Yeah.
• 57:45
  DANI: He's literally like, hey girl.
• 57:47
  KARA: SimCom Alert.
• 57:47
  DANI: Miss you.
• 57:47
  KARA: Yeah.
• 57:47
  DANI: Yeah. But I,
• 57:50
  not to say this is a justified one, but I, Vanessa
• 57:54
  Marano is doing such good vocal acting, yelling.
• 57:57
  And so I do think part of it is like, well, that's
• 57:59
  not her native language and she can't act as
• 58:01
  well in just sign language. And she's so mad.
• 58:01
  KARA: She's
• 58:05
  so mad. And she's also been very rusty. She hasn't
• 58:08
  signed all summer. So I get it.
• 58:08
  DANI: Well, that wouldn't
• 58:10
  have mattered. But sure, we'll give it to her.
• 58:13
  We'll give it to her.
• 58:13
  KARA: Yeah. But she's like, hey,
• 58:15
  Emmett, by the way, you ruined everything.
• 58:15
  DANI: Yeah.
• 58:18
  KARA: You suck. I have trust issues now, thanks to
• 58:21
  you.
• 58:21
  DANI: Yeah. This is so 16—year—old to be like,
• 58:24
  how am I supposed to ever be with anyone else
• 58:27
  ever again when you do sweet things like put
• 58:30
  mediocre graffiti up on the side of a warehouse,
• 58:33
  inaccurately stating the dates of our relationship?
• 58:36
  KARA: And then Emmett's like, but we're meant to be.
• 58:39
  He does apologize.
• 58:39
  DANI: Yeah, he apologizes a lot.
• 58:42
  And he's like, but we're meant to be. But let's
• 58:43
  remember, he sucked as a boyfriend.
• 58:43
  KARA: He sucked
• 58:46
  and I wish she said this.
• 58:46
  DANI: Yeah it wasn't just—
• 58:50
  and she kind of is like so you fucked someone
• 58:52
  else while I was talking to your parents about
• 58:53
  how to help you.
• 58:53
  KARA: Yeah.
• 58:53
  DANI: And because you were mad
• 58:56
  at me for doing that. And it's like not just—
• 58:56
  KARA: I'm
• 58:58
  glad she had that.
• 58:58
  DANI: He was such a fucking baby for months
• 59:00
  and months and months. He was such a moody brat.
• 59:02
  KARA: I know.
• 59:02
  DANI: He was not a good boyfriend to you.
• 59:02
  KARA: She
• 59:05
  should have done another timeline. I would like
• 59:07
  it in—between. Emmett yelled at me here. Emmett yelled
• 59:09
  at me here. Emmett ignored me here.
• 59:09
  DANI: I hope she does
• 59:11
  that.
• 59:11
  KARA: That would be amazing.
• 59:11
  DANI: Anyway, she is screaming
• 59:16
  at him, just being like, you've ruined everything.
• 59:19
  And then Emmett's basically just like, I'll wait
• 59:22
  for you.
• 59:22
  KARA: And Bay goes, bye, and drives away.
• 59:25
  DANI: Yeah, Bay goes, all right. She leaves. So then
• 59:27
  Daphne's back at the guest house, and Kathryn
• 59:32
  comes and finds her.
• 59:32
  KARA: What time do you think she
• 59:34
  gets off work?
• 59:34
  DANI: 7, 8? Does that make sense?
• 59:38
  KARA: No.
• 59:38
  DANI: 9, 10, 11, 12?
• 59:38
  KARA: I was thinking like 11 or
• 59:42
  12. That's crazy. Girl needs some sleep. But
• 59:45
  Daphne's doing homework and Kathryn comes in.
• 59:47
  And Daphne says, thanks for coming to my work.
• 59:50
  But I've been through this. Story of my life.
• 59:52
  I can handle it on my own. And Kathryn starts
• 59:54
  crying.
• 59:54
  DANI: It's nice. They're both like trying to
• 59:57
  apologize to each other.
• 59:57
  KARA: Yeah. She was like,
• 1:00:00
  I've only been your mom for a few months.
• 1:00:00
  DANI: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  KARA: It's been over a year, but okay.
• 1:00:02
  DANI: According to
• 1:00:04
  their own timeline. Again.
• 1:00:04
  KARA: Yeah. And I want to
• 1:00:08
  protect you. And then I was just like, Daphne,
• 1:00:11
  it's not a failure on your part to get your mom
• 1:00:14
  involved or like the general manager of the restaurant.
• 1:00:17
  DANI: It's just like a tough situation. I mean, she's
• 1:00:21
  a fictional character, but I want to respect
• 1:00:23
  her autonomy in theory.
• 1:00:23
  KARA: Yeah, sure.
• 1:00:23
  DANI: It's like,
• 1:00:25
  yeah, girl.
• 1:00:25
  KARA: I just want her to say that's not
• 1:00:27
  my job. Like when she says I'll go back to work
• 1:00:30
  and create a system that works for me. I was
• 1:00:32
  like, that's not your job.
• 1:00:32
  DANI: Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  KARA: So this job
• 1:00:34
  is so hard because I don't really have like an
• 1:00:36
  HR.
• 1:00:36
  DANI: No. God, if there was HR in that kitchen,
• 1:00:39
  a lot of things would be going different.
• 1:00:39
  KARA: I know.
• 1:00:41
  DANI: But yeah. And she says, Kathryn says, like,
• 1:00:44
  I'm sorry, I should have talked to Regina first.
• 1:00:46
  And Daphne is basically like, Regina only knows
• 1:00:50
  how to do this because she's fucking blown everything
• 1:00:54
  up so many times and like pissed me off in the
• 1:00:58
  process so many times. So it's clear that it's
• 1:01:01
  a step. Daphne needs to do things for herself
• 1:01:04
  at her own pace.
• 1:01:04
  KARA: Yeah. And also because historically,
• 1:01:08
  her mom has kind of ruined everything.
• 1:01:08
  DANI: That too.
• 1:01:11
  KARA: But Daphne does go back to the kitchen the next
• 1:01:13
  day and she put up a mirror, like this wide convex
• 1:01:16
  mirror, so that she can see the blind spots.
• 1:01:18
  DANI: And she's washing dishes and she's doing it in
• 1:01:21
  a way where you can tell she's like, I'm going
• 1:01:22
  to be the best damn dishwasher this kitchen's
• 1:01:24
  ever seen.
• 1:01:24
  KARA: You know what? Go for it.
• 1:01:24
  DANI: Go for it,
• 1:01:27
  girl.
• 1:01:27
  KARA: And Chef Jeff sees the mirror. He's like,
• 1:01:29
  huh, okay. And then she asks, is that alright?
• 1:01:32
  And he goes, yeah, it's fine.
• 1:01:32
  DANI: And then there's
• 1:01:35
  like a moment between them.
• 1:01:35
  KARA: I know.
• 1:01:35
  DANI: Ugh. Gross.
• 1:01:35
  KARA: Now,
• 1:01:40
  Bay's in her bedroom. The Galapagos era is
• 1:01:42
  done.
• 1:01:42
  DANI: Done. She takes the feather out.
• 1:01:42
  KARA: The feather's
• 1:01:46
  gone.
• 1:01:46
  DANI: Is maybe just a clip—in? It's unclear.
• 1:01:48
  KARA: It looks like a clip—in.
• 1:01:48
  DANI: It looks like a clip
• 1:01:50
  —in. It's not even like tied into her hair.
• 1:01:50
  KARA: I
• 1:01:52
  know. Regina comes in and goes, so Daphne told
• 1:01:55
  me what happened with Emmett. So sorry about
• 1:01:57
  that. That sucks.
• 1:01:57
  DANI: She's also like, we haven't
• 1:02:00
  really had a chance to talk since you got back.
• 1:02:03
  And it's like, girl.
• 1:02:03
  KARA: And whose fault is that?
• 1:02:04
  DANI: Whose fucking fault is that, Regina? Stop going
• 1:02:07
  over to Patrick's.
• 1:02:07
  KARA: With your stupid wristband.
• 1:02:10
  DANI: And the wrist brace is really sending me.
• 1:02:10
  KARA: I know.
• 1:02:14
  But Bay's like, it's all right. Thanks for helping
• 1:02:16
  with Angelo's case. I'm really excited for him
• 1:02:19
  to stay here.
• 1:02:19
  DANI: Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  KARA: Cut to the hearing.
• 1:02:19
  DANI: She's
• 1:02:21
  like, it's all going to be OK because Angelo
• 1:02:23
  is going to stay. Girl.
• 1:02:23
  KARA: There's an interpreter
• 1:02:26
  for Daphne.
• 1:02:26
  DANI: Yeah. Wow.
• 1:02:26
  KARA: Reasonable accommodation,
• 1:02:29
  guys. So the judge has finished reading the letters
• 1:02:32
  about how Angelo leaving would be an undue hardship.
• 1:02:34
  And the judge is like, I don't believe that for
• 1:02:36
  a second. You have not been in their lives for
• 1:02:38
  13 years. They don't give a fuck about you.
• 1:02:38
  DANI: [WHISPERS] And
• 1:02:40
  she kind of has a point.
• 1:02:40
  KARA: [WHISPERS] I know. They're fine without
• 1:02:44
  you. They have many other parents. You have never
• 1:02:47
  showed up for them. Not to mention you've overstayed
• 1:02:49
  your visa. All right.
• 1:02:49
  DANI: She's like, listen, you're
• 1:02:53
  kind of a criminal.
• 1:02:53
  KARA: I don't want you here. And
• 1:02:55
  in fact, you're going to go back to Italy within
• 1:02:57
  48 hours. Bay starts sobbing.
• 1:02:57
  DANI: Yeah, runs out.
• 1:03:01
  And she is wearing to court a chunky brown statement
• 1:03:04
  belt. So there's that.
• 1:03:04
  KARA: Yeah. Regina runs to comfort
• 1:03:08
  her and then turns around and runs right back
• 1:03:11
  into the courthouse.
• 1:03:11
  DANI: Runs right back into the
• 1:03:13
  courthouse. Cut to next scene.
• 1:03:13
  KARA: Marries him.
• 1:03:13
  DANI: Her
• 1:03:17
  and Angelo are standing with the most awkward
• 1:03:21
  looking officiant I've ever seen under like a
• 1:03:24
  really sad little archway — like.
• 1:03:24
  KARA: It's like a
• 1:03:27
  steel canopy. It's very strange.
• 1:03:27
  DANI: It's very sterile
• 1:03:31
  and that's how it ends. I know that realism
• 1:03:33
  sort of like isn't a factor here, but let's talk
• 1:03:36
  about how is them getting married and then applying
• 1:03:40
  for a green card after he's already legally been
• 1:03:42
  ordered to leave the country going to fix anything?
• 1:03:45
  KARA: Okay. As someone who has a wife with a green card.
• 1:03:49
  DANI: Yes.
• 1:03:49
  KARA: This is not a get out of jail free card.
• 1:03:52
  In real life, he would be deported as scheduled.
• 1:03:54
  DANI: Yeah. And then he would have to fight his way
• 1:03:56
  legally through the system to get back in, wouldn't
• 1:03:59
  he?
• 1:03:59
  KARA: Yes.
• 1:03:59
  DANI: And it would still take years and work
• 1:04:02
  against him that he'd already been deported once.
• 1:04:05
  KARA: Yeah. They don't live together. They have no
• 1:04:07
  proof they've been together recently. It seems
• 1:04:09
  like he came to the U.S. legally, but he overstayed
• 1:04:11
  his visa by many years. Getting married does
• 1:04:13
  not stop ICE from deporting you.
• 1:04:13
  DANI: And especially
• 1:04:16
  to be like, if you get married and then your
• 1:04:18
  spouse needs a green card, as you've been through,
• 1:04:20
  we've talked about this, you have to go through
• 1:04:22
  an extensive interview process to prove that
• 1:04:25
  you are not married solely for a green card.
• 1:04:28
  KARA: So yeah, USCIS, which is like Immigration and
• 1:04:31
  Customs Services, they're going to immediately
• 1:04:34
  see that he had removal proceedings and got married
• 1:04:37
  that same day. And they're going to be like,
• 1:04:40
  well, obviously this is a sham. They don't live
• 1:04:42
  together. They don't have any share of living
• 1:04:44
  expenses.
• 1:04:44
  DANI: No.
• 1:04:44
  KARA: And he lived in, what, Chicago
• 1:04:48
  beforehand? I understand this is for the plot,
• 1:04:51
  but this would never, ever work.
• 1:04:51
  DANI: No, it would
• 1:04:55
  fix nothing. Stupid, I hate all the relationship
• 1:04:57
  plot points at this point in the season.
• 1:04:57
  KARA: I'm
• 1:04:59
  so sick of them together.
• 1:04:59
  DANI: I actually don't. I
• 1:05:03
  want Angelo back in the show because he's so
• 1:05:05
  pretty to look at and so chaotic. And I want
• 1:05:07
  Patrick gone. Which will happen. We're going
• 1:05:10
  to get Patrick gone. Don't worry. I just feel
• 1:05:13
  like the best thing for Angelo would be to go
• 1:05:15
  back to Italy and just chill for a little while
• 1:05:17
  and then just have Bay come visit him.
• 1:05:17
  KARA: It'd be
• 1:05:21
  extremely hard for him to come back to the U.S.
• 1:05:23
  DANI: No, I'm telling him not to come back to the
• 1:05:24
  U.S. for a while. I'm saying go chill in Italy.
• 1:05:27
  KARA: And like, can't Bay, with all of her money, fly
• 1:05:29
  and go visit him?
• 1:05:29
  DANI: Right, and he was telling Bay
• 1:05:31
  about all of his extended family.
• 1:05:31
  KARA: Yeah, like,
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  I'm Arab, cool. Yeah, I remember.
• 1:05:34
  DANI: Yeah. Remember
• 1:05:37
  when he was like, I'll bring you to Italy this
• 1:05:39
  summer and we'll, like, go meet everyone.
• 1:05:39
  KARA: I know.
• 1:05:42
  DANI: So it's like, go there.
• 1:05:42
  KARA: Yeah. Also, yeah, he's
• 1:05:46
  not in trouble anymore in Italy. They said it's
• 1:05:49
  a fine.
• 1:05:49
  DANI: They cleared that up and he paid it.
• 1:05:50
  So, like, he's good. He's good to go.
• 1:05:50
  KARA: But he
• 1:05:54
  has two daughters here that he just—
• 1:05:54
  DANI: He doesn't
• 1:05:56
  give a fuck about them!
• 1:05:56
  KARA: He doesn't. He cares
• 1:05:58
  about Regina.
• 1:05:58
  DANI: He just cares about Regina.
• 1:05:58
  KARA: This
• 1:06:02
  plot line is so stupid.
• 1:06:02
  DANI: I feel like if he went
• 1:06:04
  to Italy and he was like, Bay, come and visit
• 1:06:06
  me for a week every winter and summer and Regina
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  can bring you, he could romance Regina in Italy
• 1:06:14
  back into being in love with him. And then they
• 1:06:16
  could be there.
• 1:06:16
  KARA: My God. I honestly could see
• 1:06:19
  Regina moving to Italy to be with him.
• 1:06:19
  DANI: Absolutely.
• 1:06:21
  No, she absolutely would. She's obsessed with
• 1:06:23
  him.
• 1:06:23
  KARA: Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  DANI: And they could be happy there. And
• 1:06:25
  then Daphne can go to cooking school out there.
• 1:06:27
  You guys, it's — I'll try to get back in there.
• 1:06:31
  Let me fix this.
• 1:06:31
  KARA: Let me rewrite this.
• 1:06:31
  DANI: And then
• 1:06:34
  that'll save Angelo from his later fate.
• 1:06:34
  KARA: Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  So much to come. Much to come for the rest of
• 1:06:40
  the season.
• 1:06:40
  DANI: Much, much to discuss. Thanks for
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  listening, guys.
• 1:06:43
  KARA: Thank you for listening. And
• 1:06:46
  we'll be back next week.
• 1:06:46
  DANI: We'll be back next week.
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  BOTH: Bye! [UPBEAT JAZZY THEME MUSIC]