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INTERVIEW: Taraji P. Henson Talks 'STRAW,' Protecting Black Women, Tyler Perry, Oprah, Sobriety Journey +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning, the breakfast club morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody in the j n V just hilarious charlamage the
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  Speaker 1: guy we are the breakfast club. Lonla Rosa is here
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  Speaker 1: as well, and we got a special guest.
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  Speaker 3: In the building. Yes, indeed, the legend Taji p Henson.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I can't tell that I'm a legend because
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  Speaker 4: I'm not on this wall. Can you get the wall?
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  Speaker 3: We got something special for you done yet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you I need to be on the wall.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be bigger than the wall, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be something that's in the studio because you know, we
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  Speaker 5: love you, Angie, love you.
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  Speaker 3: Watch you'll see watch, just watch. It's gonna be worth it.
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  Speaker 4: You know I've been I've been told them put you
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  Speaker 4: up here. What he's saying to me as soon as
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  Speaker 4: I walk ahead, you sound like Hollywood exect right now.
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  Speaker 3: Hell, legend, we're looking for somebody else.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody said that to you, no more than what they
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  Speaker 5: been looking for somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's just the whole Hollywood of it all. We
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  Speaker 4: love her, we love her. Well, where is my check?
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  Speaker 5: One thing I know about you and OG's like Mary
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  Speaker 5: j BLI, y'all over it.
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  Speaker 4: I can be I just you know. The thing is
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  Speaker 4: the older you get. I just can't do the b asked, like,
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  Speaker 4: just be real with me, that's all. I'm a grown
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  Speaker 4: ass girl, a woman. I can take it. Just be real,
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  Speaker 4: don't be blowing smoke.
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: Was great? I am feeling amazing, to be quite honest,
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  Speaker 4: because I'm not dealing with nobody's unhealed son or daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I.
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  Speaker 4: Can't. You're not on your healing journey. I can't help you, baby,
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  Speaker 4: because I can't take on your trauma while I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to get over mine. Yeah, and you not trying to
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  Speaker 4: heal yours. I can't help you. I'm not qualified yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, the peace that I found, like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: even somebody asking me to come out, the first question
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  Speaker 4: I asked, is is it going to disturb my peace?
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  Speaker 4: Because you know, when you're young, you just you gonna
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  Speaker 4: have phone mall a little bit. It's like I gotta go,
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  Speaker 4: and then you find yourself going why did not? Why
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  Speaker 4: did I just stay home? You know, no more of
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  Speaker 4: those moments because I'd rather be home with my fat frenchies.
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  Speaker 5: You don't always want to ask you as being an
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  Speaker 5: advocate for mental health ever made you feel more exposed
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  Speaker 5: than being just a public figure in Hollywood. More exposed, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because you tell you tell more of yourself being a
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  Speaker 5: mental health advocate, because you probably if you was just
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  Speaker 5: Taraji in Hollywood, who wasn't that you wouldn't have to
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  Speaker 5: probably give up so much.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. But I kind of always been that, So
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  Speaker 4: I wear my heart on my sleeve. So I just
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel any different. I'm still
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  Speaker 4: looking at this wall, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask, when did you get to the
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  Speaker 1: point where you don't have to come out for the BS?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. We just had this conversation the other day
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  Speaker 1: where it was like I got to a place a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago where I just say no. Before
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  Speaker 1: it was like I felt like I had to do it,
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  Speaker 1: I had to show up, I had.
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  Speaker 2: To go and sometimes things up your piece.
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  Speaker 1: But now to the point where if I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the energy is gonna be off or I just don't,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going.
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  Speaker 4: No. It is my favorite word. I love saying that
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  Speaker 4: word no, and that said I don't owe your explanation.
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  Speaker 4: Like when I was with our forever first Lady Michelle
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  Speaker 4: Obama doing her show She was like, no, it is
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  Speaker 4: a complete sentence, and it absolutely is.
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  Speaker 2: When did you get there?
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  Speaker 3: When?
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  Speaker 2: When did it click?
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  Speaker 4: Which trip was it? The first one? The first one
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  Speaker 4: when I went alone, the first one, because that that
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  Speaker 4: refocused me, recentered me. I was. I didn't I felt
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  Speaker 4: outside of myself before I went to Bali. That was
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  Speaker 4: a well needed trip because I was literally losing myself.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know who I was the joy. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a I'm the one that brings the life to the party,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I become I was like tight all
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  Speaker 4: the time, not happy and complaining a lot. That's just
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  Speaker 4: not me. Even my team noticed, they were like, is
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  Speaker 4: everything okay? You don't you seem a little you know,
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  Speaker 4: And that's just not in my DNA. So I had
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  Speaker 4: to unplug and just go away and be with myself
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  Speaker 4: and in the middle of a rice field.
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  Speaker 5: You want to share that with the world that I
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  Speaker 5: started seeing that people need to hear that.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes when they see public figures, they think
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  Speaker 4: we have it all together because we've you know, we've
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  Speaker 4: found some money or whatever. You know. People think that
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  Speaker 4: money heals and money will bring you more problems than
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  Speaker 4: you had when you were broke. I often find myself saying,
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  Speaker 4: damn I missed when I was broke and dreaming because
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  Speaker 4: everything seemed possible, you know, but then when you make
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  Speaker 4: it and you you get behind the Wizard of Oz
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  Speaker 4: curtain and it's like, oh, it ain't what it seems.
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  Speaker 3: Straw.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, a very moving film.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Yes, listen, what did you What did you channel?
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  Speaker 4: Because you you are healing, you mean your healing journey.
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  Speaker 6: But to put yourself in a role like that, you
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  Speaker 6: had to go back. You had to go back. That
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  Speaker 6: was a trying day. So the movie was like it
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  Speaker 6: took place one day to deal with all that in
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  Speaker 6: the day and to have to embody that much trauma.
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  Speaker 4: Because I don't want to give away to ending.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna fuck you. What what did you pull from?
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  Speaker 6: Did you have to go put yourself back where you were,
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  Speaker 6: where you were going through everything?
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  Speaker 3: Executives.
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  Speaker 4: I am a single mother, you know. I moved to
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood with my son, who was a toller at the
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  Speaker 4: time of seven hundred dollars in my pocket and just
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  Speaker 4: a pocket full of dreams and Jesus and so I've
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  Speaker 4: you know, humans, we all have can have a moment
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  Speaker 4: where we can snap. You know, I think what made
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  Speaker 4: me different from Jenia's that I've always had a support system.
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  Speaker 4: So I have a sister circle where they'll talk me
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  Speaker 4: off the ledge, you know what I mean. But have
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  Speaker 4: I ever got to the point where I wanted to snap? Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that's why I went to Bali, you know what I mean. So,
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  Speaker 4: but she didn't have the resources, she didn't have the support,
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  Speaker 4: so all she had was the voices in her head,
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  Speaker 4: and she literally reached them her point where she just
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  Speaker 4: couldn't take it anymore, and things just got out of
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  Speaker 4: control and she God, bless her heart, she was just
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  Speaker 4: trying to do the best she could with what she had,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And I in particular, I am drawn to
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  Speaker 4: characters who are voiceless and need a voice because I
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  Speaker 4: am such a big personality. I like to breathe light
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  Speaker 4: into those characters because I feel like those characters are real.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Tyler Perry and just pulled us out of
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  Speaker 4: the sky. These women exist, These people exist, and they
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  Speaker 4: need to see themselves, and they need to know that
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  Speaker 4: they're not alone and that people do see them.
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  Speaker 7: To make you mad when people tell Tyler Perry to
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  Speaker 7: stop showing those women on camera, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that's their own trauma's trigger because in the community
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  Speaker 4: black community, we don't deal with it, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. So if you're forced to look at it,
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  Speaker 4: often you will be triggered. So the first thing you're
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  Speaker 4: going to one to say is I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: see it, but there are people out there that need
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  Speaker 4: to see it. He's forcing real conversations in the community.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I'll never stop working with him.
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  Speaker 5: So for a person that doesn't work on themselves the
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  Speaker 5: way you do, when you got to go on an
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  Speaker 5: intense emotional journey for a four day shoot, what is
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  Speaker 5: your approach to that?
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  Speaker 3: Like, how do you prepare for like those inevitable triggers.
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  Speaker 4: I have trained well, I think out of necessity. I've
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  Speaker 4: trained my instrument. My body is my instrument, just like
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  Speaker 4: you know, a musician has a guitar, they know how
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  Speaker 4: to hit the notes. I have a know and off switch.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's because I was a mother very
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  Speaker 4: young and when I would work and come home, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have time to process and deal with the character
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  Speaker 4: that opportuny because now it's homework. He got eat, I
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  Speaker 4: got a science fait project, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So I had to turn it off, so I'm just trying.
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  Speaker 4: I Literally, you ask anybody that I've worked with. I
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  Speaker 4: could be in the middle of a singing, balling my
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  Speaker 4: eyes out and they'll yell cut, and I'll be like,
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  Speaker 4: what a fried chicken? Or I have these games that
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  Speaker 4: I play on my iPad to because I have to
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  Speaker 4: separate myself from the character. I cannot stay again that
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  Speaker 4: is that character's trauma. I can't take that on. I
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  Speaker 4: just can't because I have my own shit to deal with.
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  Speaker 4: So literally, when they yell cut, I'm back to Taraji
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  Speaker 4: just like that.
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  Speaker 1: Is it easier to shoot a four day movie because
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  Speaker 1: you did this movie in four days, right? Or is
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  Speaker 1: it more difficult because you got to do everything in
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  Speaker 1: those four days.
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  Speaker 4: It's taxing, But I like it, especially when the subject
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  Speaker 4: matter is so heavy, because I don't have to stay
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  Speaker 4: in it long like I you know, that fourth day,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I gotta do this again,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because it's not comfortable. Showing
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  Speaker 4: a character's trauma and pain is like showing you some
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  Speaker 4: of my trauma and pain and it's healing, but having
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  Speaker 4: to open up those wounds, it's not comfortable. It's not
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  Speaker 4: comfortable to be in that, but it is healing.
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  Speaker 8: There's a visual reference in the movie.
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  Speaker 7: I think what I call it is a visual reference
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  Speaker 7: to Annie Lee's Blue Monday. Yes, that's exactly it. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: So I'm not crazy, no talk, Okay. So even visually
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  Speaker 7: showing things like that in a film and it being
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  Speaker 7: like that's like that image is so iconic and you're
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  Speaker 7: speaking without speaking when that scene happens, when you're looking
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  Speaker 7: at a script. Is that something that's already there when
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  Speaker 7: you and Tyler Perry are discussing. Perry came up with
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  Speaker 7: that all on his own, okay, Yeah, and he nailed it. Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I know the painting too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I've had Blue Mondays, you know where I just
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  Speaker 4: felt like, shit, I don't want to do it today.
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  Speaker 4: I think we all understand that. That's why that painting hits,
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  Speaker 4: especially for black women.
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  Speaker 5: How did your advocacy for mental wellness inform your portrayal
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  Speaker 5: of Janaia's.
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  Speaker 4: Psychological understanding her breaking point and understanding what it is
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  Speaker 4: to just be going through the motions barely hanging on
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  Speaker 4: by a thread, Like I get that, I understand what
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  Speaker 4: that looks like. That's why at the end when they
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  Speaker 4: go back, you kind of you like, oh, you can
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  Speaker 4: see exactly when she snaps it's crazy. I ain't trying
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  Speaker 4: to do it is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody in the movie said it's more expensive to be poor.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, So prime example, Tyler said when
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  Speaker 4: he was homeless, he called his mother and was like,
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  Speaker 4: can you send me twenty dollars? She said, you need
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  Speaker 4: to bring your black ass home because it's gonna cost
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  Speaker 4: me fifteen dollars just to send you twenty dollars. Damn.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think people really understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to know, without giving too much a way,
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  Speaker 1: what's the message in Straw that you hope sticks.
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  Speaker 2: With people after the credits roll?
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  Speaker 1: So there was women unity, There was so much about it.
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  Speaker 1: What's that one message that you want people to get
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  Speaker 1: it and understand.
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  Speaker 4: That we should move with grace at all times because
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  Speaker 4: you never know what somebody's going through. Never judge a
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  Speaker 4: book by its cover, because you never know what battles
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  Speaker 4: a person is a fighting You just don't and really
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  Speaker 4: see people, really don't just throw how you doing, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, really wait for a response and really ask
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  Speaker 4: the question to want to know you know, connect with
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  Speaker 4: people say hi, how are you? You know, and really
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  Speaker 4: mean it, because that could save a human's life, just
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  Speaker 4: that human interaction, especially for people who feel unseen.
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  Speaker 5: Only when Tyler even was casting you for that role,
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  Speaker 5: did he even know what you had went through? Because
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  Speaker 5: if I write a role about somebody getting to their
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  Speaker 5: breaking point, knowing somebody already had got on, it feels kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of Tyler and I are friends of verse, and so
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  Speaker 4: we talk all the time about personal things, and so
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  Speaker 4: he knows a lot about But he said when he
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  Speaker 4: started writing, he just had to. He was going through
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  Speaker 4: his own thing and he had to get it out
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  Speaker 4: and on the page. And then he said, as he
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  Speaker 4: was writing, he saw me, and he'll bring me a
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  Speaker 4: lot of projects, and I'll be like, you know what, time,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this is for me. I think this
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  Speaker 4: is somebody else's blessing, you know. And then he'll just
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  Speaker 4: keep writing. And when he got straw, he said, he
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  Speaker 4: hit me. He said I got one for you, and
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  Speaker 4: he sent it to me and I read it. I said,
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  Speaker 4: this is it. This is the one. So that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of how we operate.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not fight somebody over Tyler?
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  Speaker 1: How do you not fight because they attacked time, but
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  Speaker 1: one because he does so much for people and he's
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  Speaker 1: so good to especially our community, and I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times people don't see that, and even people
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  Speaker 1: that he don't know that he doesn't know. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: He helps so much. He talks to, he godes, he mentors,
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  Speaker 2: and you guys are so close.
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  Speaker 3: How do you not just say you know?
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  Speaker 4: Because his action speaks louder than the because this man
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  Speaker 4: owns a studio. What you got? Every raise that I've
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  Speaker 4: gotten and how I've whenever I'm treated the best in
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  Speaker 4: this industry is always by him. Every raise that I've
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  Speaker 4: gotten has come from a black man.
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  Speaker 8: Tyler Perry.
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  Speaker 4: He doubled my quote in Straw four days of work,
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  Speaker 4: which is so important for when you go on to
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  Speaker 4: that next he understands that that man has helped. He
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  Speaker 4: does so much that we don't even know because he's
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  Speaker 4: not even talking about it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you filmed two movies at the same time, Fight
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  Speaker 6: Night and Straw. Right, did you find the two characters
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  Speaker 6: bleeding into each other?
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  Speaker 4: It's not at all totally different. He was the first
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  Speaker 4: director to challenge me in that way because I was
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  Speaker 4: in the throes of Empire. When he called with acrimony,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, Tyler, I don't know. It's being
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  Speaker 4: a thesbian. I don't know if I can get into
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  Speaker 4: this character. He was like, girl, with your instrument, you
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  Speaker 4: can do it. He was like, you're gonna come down here,
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna shoot it in five I was like five days.
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  Speaker 4: He said, you can do it. If anybody can do it, Taji,
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  Speaker 4: you can do it. And he challenged me. He knows
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  Speaker 4: I love a good challenge. That's I lean into roles.
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  Speaker 4: That scared the shit out of me because I have
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  Speaker 4: to grow in some way or change or be transcended
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  Speaker 4: or something. And that's what I want from my audience.
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  Speaker 4: And if I'm not doing it as the artist, then
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  Speaker 4: how is the audience going to transform? So I lean
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  Speaker 4: into challenges and he knows that about him because he's
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  Speaker 4: a virgo as well. And so now I'm a pro
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  Speaker 4: ad it because of Tyler. So when he called this time,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even think about it. I was like, great,
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  Speaker 4: four days in and out, Okay, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: In the industry is finally catching up to your arrange?
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  Speaker 5: Are you still underestimated in certain rooms?
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  Speaker 4: This is an actress no, I think they get it.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm at a really particular point in my
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  Speaker 4: special place in my career where I've done so much
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  Speaker 4: that I can't just do anything anymore because y'all will
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  Speaker 4: be like, why should do that? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: And so you know, it's just looking for that right
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  Speaker 4: material and it doesn't come like that, so that my
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  Speaker 4: fans are frustrated because I'll post a pretty picture and
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  Speaker 4: they're like, that's cute. When your next movie coming out, like,
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  Speaker 4: I have to be very particular about what I'm choosing now,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: and some of this stuff doesn't exist and I have
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: to create it, and so that takes a little longer.
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: What age were you when you did Empire?
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: That was ten years I was forty five. It was
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: The reason why I asked you that is because I
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: saw your interview where you talked about your overseas and
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: how people received you overseas, and you realized then how
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: big like us overseas were like that whole thing, And
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: I'm wondering right now in your career, you just said
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: you can't do anything, and you get into these different
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: levels so early in your career, even though you've been
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: our Taraji forever. What are new experiences that you're having
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: just in your celebrity life at where you are right
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: now in your career that we might have thought that
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: you've already experienced before.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess for me, it's always because
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I people always go do you not know who you are?
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Like I went to the girl. I still like to
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: go to the groceres.
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: So by my own damn produce, like by Empire, you
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: were iconic to us.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, But you know, after so many years
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: of being told by the industry, oh, no one knows
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: you overseas, and then I get overseas and they're like,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: did ogi please please? Picture? That still throws me, Like
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I just came back from can and it's the age
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: range for me, it's like the Grandma all the way
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: down sometimes to the great grandchildren. And I'm leaving Connor
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: and I forget, you know, I'm overseas. I'm like, don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: nobody know me? And all of a sudden I get
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: crowded by this group of people and then over in
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: the corner, I see these young boys and it's like
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a soccer team or something. They're standing there with their
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: camera and I just I don't even think they spoke
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: fluent English, but they knew exactly who I was because
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: one of them and I was like, babies, come on,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: and they all gathered. I'm telling I'm like maybe ten,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: but that always throws me when the babies know who
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I am. You know, I'm just like, dang, I'm still relevant.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Fifty four years old? You ever want a young girl?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: When black women?
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: He was like, the age you remind me asking that?
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: The reason I asked I tell people my age.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Because I hate that women we feel ashamed of age
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: and when men can have beer bellies balding, sorry.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: I gave, and then we can kind of seehere the like,
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: but you understand what they.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Can and then they can have a young thing on
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: there and we let that pass and we have to
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: be ashamed of our age. No, I'm not doing it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: At one point, you were flirting with leaving Hollywood. You
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: said you were tired with the bullshit, the.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Little ball before I went to the first time, Yeah
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I had, I remember, I had gotten too a better place.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: But see, that's what happens when you give so much
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: power over to humans. See, I know God chose me.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I'm called chosen and covered. So when you know that
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: everything's not gonna be easy, you know, I had to
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: get back to that. That's what got me to Hollywood
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: with seven hundred dollars in my pocket and my toddler,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: because I knew I had a calling and I just
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: stirred away from that. But I'm back.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You feel appreciated more.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I do, I do. I don't. Look, you know, it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: like it's interesting because you go, I didn't get it
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: nominated for this award again, that's did you see the
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: powerful talk that Denzel did about how he got bitter?
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I mean that was me. That was me, and it
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: particularly happened after hitting figures. I was like, what do
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I have to do? Like you know, y'all didn't see
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the rain. Yeah, I'm still playing cookie. And then I
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: gave you a rocket scientist like what? And that hurt
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit, But again it hurt because of the
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: power I placed in man's hand. But if you step
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: back from that and take that power back, Look how
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: many black girls are coding now? Not even black girls,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: young kids, kids, period. Like So that's what I always wanted,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and that's what I asked God. I said, I want
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: longevity and I want the work that's going to affect
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: lives in a positive way. I want the work that
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: people are gonna study long after I'm gone, like I
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: did the greats that came before me, you know, And
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: when you ask that's specific. It may not be the awards,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: you know. I figure if I keep working, that shit'll come.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: But what's rewarding to me? Or when fans come up
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: to me and go bay whatever? That last it touched me.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: It made me change the way I, you know, think
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: about things like that's rewarding to me.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Was on the phone yesterday and she was just saying
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: how much of a fan of you she is?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, but I'm just like, there's nothing wrong with
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: expressing that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Share that with her because you just existing provides that inspiration.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: And then she's shamed me because I was just like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, you damn right. We saw Toaji.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I saw to Rogi in the theatters for baby Boy,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: and she was like you saw baby Boy in theats.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: She made you feel older.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: I've never thought about baby Boy in a movie theater about.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Crazy my son.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: But I don't know just how you feel, but I
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: feel like wanting to be in entertainment being television like
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: it's you think of you because you're able to be.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: It always seems like you've been able to be yourself.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: So when we were like, I know for myself, when
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: I heard you talk about that before that first body trip,
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: not feeling like enough, I'm like, wait, what, Like she's
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: been the this is how you can be the girl
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: from where are you from?
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: Run away?
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: Whatever you want to call it, But like you're in
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Hollywood and you're graceful in your career impacts. So I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: glad you're out of that because I was like, what
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: this is?
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: Dteragp intem like it was.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Actual burnout because of the work. You know, people go,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: you work a lot. I too, because the math ain't
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: math and the zeros ain't adding up, you know. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: so because you see somebody working a lot a lot
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of times when it's us, it's because that one job
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: is not gonna cover you for the year. I wish
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I could just do two films and be like, I mean,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of to that point now, you know what
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I mean. But there are actors out there that's just
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: one job a year because that's how they get paid.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And I don't think people really understand the breakdown of
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the math. You know, fifty cent. If somebody goes they
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: made ten million dollars, right, you got to remember Uncle
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Sam's coming to take half of that off the top,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: and then you have to pay your thirty or forty
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: percent whatever you're paying your team off your gross. So
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: you're not taking home ten million dollars. I know it
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: sounds amazing, but you're not taking it home. Somebody gets
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: paid one million for a film, they not seeing that
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: one million in their bank account. Do the math, you know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: So that's why. So I think a lot of it
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: was burnout and frustration because once I lifted my head
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: and was like, why do I have to work so much?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: You know, I just got burned out. That became bitter.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: You know a lot of people thought you were kicking
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Thiland Oprah's back in during the Color Purple.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, why would they think that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I guess that they were the producers of the film,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: and they thought that when you were complaining about the pay.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You know, they had bosses, right, thank you? And when
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: have you ever seen me drag another woman, particularly a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: black woman? Ever? I'm ten toes down for us. Never?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: And then the fact that blogs, and I think it
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: was just a campaign so that this black movie wouldn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: do well, right, because to say I even saw some
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: bits about it was my fault that the film didn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: do well? Oh yeah, I saw that. What how did?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: How did? How? How?
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: They tried to say that you because of the conversation
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: you raised about the money and things that weren't right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: It pivoted the focus to people aren't going to go
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: see the film. They care more about what is Taraji saying?
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: Is it true or not?
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: That's you know that total now I know it is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you what the conversation, what you're
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: referring to. We're telling jess what the most.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: And me and Oprah, I have such a love and
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: a fondness for her. She just texted me the other
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: day commending me on a job well done in Straw.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: So that was all fixtures like and to draw a
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: wedge between us. But see, I'm not gonna let you
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: do that because I went to her defense right away.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Y'all not gonna do that to this woman. All of
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: this what she does, I mean, like, stop it, stop that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Even with Tyler, Tyler is the person that pays you
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the most.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: What I'm never gonna not work with Tyler. That just
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: is that's insane to me. I enjoy working with him.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I really really do. We have fun on that set.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I love that he challenges me. I understand. I'm never
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: gonna turn my back on us. You know, people that
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: go to the Tyler Perry films is a huge population
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: of us. Like, so for me to say I'm not
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: gonna do it time about, that's me turning my back
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: on us. I would never speaking of black women in
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: relationships your character and Strolgian and during her like worst moment,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: black women in the movie still like get around her
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: and heller around her even almost like forcibly, but like
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: not really because they identify with her absolutely.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: What is you know, not even the importance? But like
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: when people watch those moments throughout the movie, what do
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: you want them to take from that?
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: That we need each other and we're more powerful when
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: we support each other. I'm a huge you know how
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I am with the sister girls, you know? And I
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: told this to the Spellman Lady graduating class of twenty
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: twenty five. The last thing I said to them was like, ladies,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: like we are more powerful in numbers. We need to
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: support each other. Do not air your grievances with another
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: sister in public. You got a problem with her, pull
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: it to the side. That's between you and her. To
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: fix that is not for the public to weigh in
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: with their shallow opinions. I said, it's black women. We
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: take too many bullets from society. Why why would I
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: be another obstacle for another sister to get over. I'm
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: just not gonna do it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: Earlier today. I need it to depend on her. How
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: we've had this.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I'm glad. That's beautiful, and that's growth and more of that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: But it breaks my heart when I see sisters go
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: at it in public. It does something to me because
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: we have enough to overcome. Why should it be another
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: sister like we got the same struggle.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: So the dynamic between you and Sherry Shepard and Leanna
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Taylor in the movie, that's the enhanced like the exploration
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: the sisterhood and solidarity is.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Absolutely Tyler wrote that, and he doesn't do anything by mistake,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: like he's a virgo. He's very calculated.
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: Because I was wondering that dynamic was that something you
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: brought in?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But it was already there. It's already there. He wrote
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: it like that, see, because you know Detective Raymond, who uh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Tiana plays so effortlessly that girl. Let me just say
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: this about Tiana. She coming for everything, y'all. She's coming
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: for everybody and everybody's next and everything. She what I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: love about her. I mean, she just leaves nothing on
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the table. She checks every box. She's just incredible. Have
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you seen the snippet for her new video Come As
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the mini movie that she directed.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, in front of the camera, behind the camera.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Every gift that God gave her, she is using an
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, sweetheart, I love her anyway. When she starts
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: hearing my character Jania's story, she totally identifies because she's
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: a single mother, so that touches her right. She's like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: wait a minute and see for us. Do you have
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: you ever seen that that series call is it The Center?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: It's called The Center, and it's about people who do
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: these crimes. And there's this gentleman who's a detective and
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: he goes to the why. There's always a why, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: when you understand the why, then you're able to show
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: compassion and give some grace because people just don't do
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: stuff just because they're pushed to a point. I'm not excusing. Yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not excusing the d that has been done. But
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: if we can just understand why, the why. And that's
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: why I'm always playing the why of my characters, because
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I want the audience to feel for the person. If
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't play the why of cookies, she could have
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: been just another sass, smart mouthed black woman. No one
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: would have cared. But because I got to her why,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: everybody in the world could identify with her. Lays the
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: cookie too. You know, do you.
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: Think that the layers that we see in Jenia and
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Straw in her having to learn to be like actually
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: admit that she's not okay and not just covering things up,
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: and you talk about your personal life not being a
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: life of a party anymore and being okay with that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Do you think that that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: That's something that after watching this movie people can take
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: on easily or like, what do you think people's journey
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: to get to that point will be after watching this movie.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Everybody's journey is different. Some people find it hard to
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: very difficult to deal with trauma because it's it's not
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: easy going through therapy. You gotta deal with the ugly
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: shit first before you get There is no way to
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: get over a storm or under a storm. You gotta
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: go through it before you can see the sun. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: the sun always shines, but you have to go through it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: And that therapy journey is not for the week, and
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: some people, unfortunately, spend their lifetime just dodging it. And
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because your life can be so much better
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: if you could just heal, because you find yourself, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: almost like a Gerbil in the wheel. If you're not,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: because the same shit that you think you're running from,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you're gonna wherever you are, wherever you go, there you are,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: and all your problems you cannot.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: You're not drinking or decision and not drink anymore.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, So I do have my wine, and I do
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I love my seven daughters, but I do take breaks.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: For five months, I had stopped drinking because I felt
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: like I needed clarity. I needed to get rid of
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: some negative energy that was in my life that I
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: couldn't see because and not to say that I have
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a drinking problem or anything like that, I just think
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: like you fast sometimes because you need to reset your system.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I did this sobriety for like five months, and then
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, when I have to promote my wine and
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I do really like my seven daughters, but it's a
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: it's low in calories, and it doesn't get you like
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: plastered like you. I mean, I can sip it by
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: the pool and still function, you know, But I do
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: have moments where I fast from that as well, because
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I just think it's great for my mental because I'm
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I'm present.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: I was going to ask what presence did it bring
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: before you at and prepare for this role?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I was able to get up in
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the morning. And another thing I find when I don't
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: drink is that I can work out, you know what
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: i mean. Like, that's one vice that I pick up
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and I go hard with. I mean, I'm sure you've
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: seen some of my videos that I'm pouring into myself
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: because I'm present, you know, I'm not numbing out.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: What's one quiet decision to Roger you made that had
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: the biggest impact on your career but never made.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Headlines the biggest say that again, it was one.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Quiet decision you made that had the biggest impact on
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: your career but never made headlines.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Quiet decision. I mean, it seems like everything I do
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: makes the headline because I thought me going to BALI
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: was gonna be quiet, and it's still we're still talking
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: about it. I think I talk about everything. I don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: think you know, because I feel like if you have
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: a story to tell, tell it. I try to keep
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: my breakup. Gab. Oh, that's a good one. I'might have
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to call you back on that one. You have to
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: call you back. Well, this is not even this is
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: not even a question.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: But in watching Straw, I got John kevibes, Oh my gosh.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Well. The difference with John Q is that he was
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: very conscious and what he was doing. He was trying
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: to save his son, and he was like, I ain't
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: got no money. The insurance is not paying, so I'm
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: gonna stick y'all up, you know. But it was like
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: what you would do, what links you would go through
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: your new mom for your kid. It hits you in
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: a new way, doesn't it. When you become a mother,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: and it's real, like it's not about you anymore. Once
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: you become a parent, you have this whole existence and
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: being and human that you are responsible for. And if
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: you are a responsible person, that's a very serious job
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: for you. Like you know, before you were probably like
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a you know, you know, a public figure. Now
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: it's like I'm a mom first, you know. So it's different.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Life is different when you have that kind of responsibility
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and you'll do anything for your child and you and
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: the hurt that they feel, you feel it ten times
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  Speaker 4: more because you feel like it's my job to protect
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: this child. And so when they're bully, you ready to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: go to wall because it's like, no, how dare you?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: And Jeniah snapt but she kept going, didn't he Really
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: she didn't know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: She had no idea. She was operating outside of herself.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: A lot.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: We know a lot of things you do are super
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: intentional because, like you said, you so, what's the most
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: strategic thing you've ever done?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: That people mistook as emotional?
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Probably talking about the paying that because I have a
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: crying about money. I tell you what, bitch, if you
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: want to eat, you better speak the fuck up right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: The squeaky wheel gets figged, mouth don't get fed right.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you who's not complaining about that
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: money anymore?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Because after that, Hollywood started coming.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Correct, man, listen, they have to you do you want
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: to hit my mouth again? I demanded that respect. This
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: is my last question. Are you happy? I'm so happy.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I can't expect people go you're glowing? Yes, because I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: am not dealing with nobody's a hell child at peace,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the peace that I have been fighting for. I have it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: and it has nothing to do with anybody, no other human.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: It's all in me. I love you. I love you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Do you even tell the unhealed people anything anymore?
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: No? No, because sometimes they ain't ready to hear it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I will say, I hope you heal.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I do say that, you know, I just cause sometimes
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: they take that all right right, you know? So it's
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: just for you to discover.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: Sweet well, thank you?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Is this Friday?
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Netflix?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Definitely check it out.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: And wait till you see what we do for you
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: in this building.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: You see is it a bust?
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: What does that mean?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It is a bus like a.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Don't put no badass wig on it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Like yesterday will be a bust.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, were in the situa of his table in the.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Hall because people will see it whenever they want. So
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: you have to go buy Angie Studio and.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Coming it look like me. Don't like.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: The way waves when the way Wade statue that don't.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Don't do that, yeah, because that's okay, not mine. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I met thank you.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: For your career than not ending the interview yet. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: thank you for that, thank you, thank you for you.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's your career, you the person that you are,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: because your career has given you the platform to be
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: out here being the mental health advocate that you are.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: And I think that that work is going out outlive
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: probably anything, I hope.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that to me feels like probably why God
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: set me up to be a public figure to get
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to that. Absolutely, yeah, so grateful, Thank you so much, guys.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: This is beautiful and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: wake that ass up in the morning.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.