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Do Transgender Men Have Male Privilege? | Maintaining Frame 48 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number forty eight. Do transgender
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  men have male privilege? Which is a video? I think somebody sent you
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  right or did no? No, I found it. I found it.
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  Oh you found it. You've ferreted it out? I did, I did.
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  I don't remember. You followed the veins of cringe in the Interwell,
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  yeah, ug it. So we're yeah, so we're gonna be looking at
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  this video that's going to make the case that transgender men don't have the same
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  privilege as sisgender men. So okay, yeah, I know what the question
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  is. Do does that then follow that trans women still have the privilege of
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  men of sis men? Yeah? Interesting? That yeah, interesting, but
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  also interesting how they want to disavow the position of privilege. It's almost like
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  privilege is a hot potato. Huh Yeah. It seems like the only thing
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  it does is puts you in the bottom to be listened to or cared about.
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  It. It's quite the you know, it's quite it's almost it's the
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  Ministry of privilege, you know. Nineteen eighty four, the Ministry of Peace
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  dealt with war. The Ministry of truth dealt with lies. The Ministry of
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  privilege is actually the ministry of dis privilege. So when you when you're tagged
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  with the privilege tag, you don't get any privileges at all, because you're
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  already mysteriously privileged by the privileged ghosts that nobody can actually identify. Oh God,
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  this this world just just it spends. Our society must spend a good
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  like sixty percent of its GDP gross domestic product just lying to itself. Yeah,
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  the tip. All right, shall we just do it? Get intesting?
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  Yes, let us go to the web page. Let's press play. So
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  the video is from a website called Advocate dot com and it's entitled do trans
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  Men Have Mail Privilege? And the I guess like the reason why I thought
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  it was interesting was sort of comes out in a predictable way. It's basically
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  like, you know, because they lived as women for a while and then
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  became men, they understand both sides, you know, um better, and
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  somehow that cancels out all of the male privilege, or at least that aspect
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  though anyway, So that's what the question is, and I just thought it
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  was interesting because, um, you know, we have trans men speaking on
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  behalf of men. Now, do transgender men have male privilege? Yes?
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  All right, cool, that's a video over by Peace. No, it's
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  not all right. I'm just pausing. We're going to just point one thing
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  out. I was. I was briefly in an argument with with a bunch
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  of feminists on Twitter about the Selective Service, and I found out something a
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  little bit interesting about selective service. Okay, so this is from who needs
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  to register? Okay, US citizens, and it's under their heading transgender people
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  people US citizens are immigrants who are born male and change their gender to female
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  are still required to register. Individuals who are born female and change their gender
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  to male are not required to register. And interestingly, when you look at
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  when when they talk about, um, you know, the obligation to register,
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  they say that if you don't register, if you avoid registering, it's
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  unfair because another man has to take your place. But it's funny how one
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  gender is taking the entire place of another gender when it comes to selective service
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  and this obligation to put your life to the protection of your society, that
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  is what male citizens are obligated to do. That means this guy, who
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  I presume is a trans man, is not obligated to that. Sis men
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  are obligated to that. That means that a sists man has to give up
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  his future, his education and he hopes for future education, has to give
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  up his job, has to give up his home, has to give up
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  his well being, has to give up his comfort, has to give up
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  his life, has to give up his physical integrity, has to give up
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  every conceivable privilege that a human being has, every conceivable right that a human
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  being has if his society requires it of him. That's the position sis men
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  are in. So this is like when he says, oh, oh,
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  trans men have male privilege. No, you have trans man privilege, which
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  is actually female privilege. You have the privilege right here in black and white
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  that the Selective Service Registry illustrates puts out just just white and black and white.
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  You're born female, you don't have to make those sacrifices, and they
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  are sacrifices. There is no greater sacrifice that any person has ever given their
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  society than soldiers do, period. And that's partly because it is not voluntary.
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  Men will enforce this on other men. They will believe it is man,
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  a man's role to sacrifice for his society. And you see that in
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  Ukraine now, and you see the same thing happening in the Ukraine. You
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  think you're a transwoman, No you're not. If you were born with the
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  penis, you are expected to pick up a gun and go die for your
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  country. So after that, after you set that, this entire discussion of
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  privileges is insane, it's insane. There is there is no male privilege,
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  none, because every single bit, even the privilege, like every single bit
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  of privilege a human being can have, is put is sacrifice on the altar
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  of this society sustaining itself for men. When it comes to men, that
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  means there is no such thing as male privilege at all. Period. The
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  selective service and it's secretive cryptic forms and other countries. You know, guys,
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  there's there's no country that doesn't do this it's just the US is more
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  public about it. For example, the Canada just signs men up to a
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  registry without telling anyone, doesn't tell anyone because they don't want any fuss.
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  But believe me, if Russia comes over the North, guess who's going Guess
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  who's going to be signed up? Okay, so it exists. It exists
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  in every country. This expectation exists. It's just that in the US if
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  there's a bit more of a publicity around it. And some states they sign
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  you up automatically when you when you try to to license, or when you
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  try to get a voters registration card, or when you try to get like
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  an ID, they just sign you up automatically. Other states they send you
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  the Selective Service a list, and they send you a letter and they say,
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  ah, you gotta sign up, or you pay a quarter million dollars
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  in a quarter million dollars to go to jail. All right, okay,
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  right here, right here. Mail privilege doesn't exist, period, full stop.
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  Let's go out and end end of this, end of this podcast.
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  Guys, no need to go on. Good night, everybody, good night,
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  everybody. All right, Oh god, but let's see what this delusional
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  human being has to say about things and also work harder. I'm passing,
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  oh man, monetized passing is a human being? Yeah, this is not
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  the best trans man like in terms of passing as a human being. But
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  what I'm saying passing as a human being, I'm not even sayings a man?
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  Yes, yes, of course, oh God, as adult? How
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  about like, oh, stop moving like that. That's creepy. Okay,
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  okay, of course the actual answer is more nuanced than that. It's of
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  course, it's always more nuanced. Okay. Can I just make a rant
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  about the word nuanced and how these people use it, these individuals on this
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  particular with this particular behavioral pattern. Nuanced means that the answer is always men
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  are privileged, and nuance means is uh, because that is always the answer,
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  We're going to do some elaborate acrobatics and shooking and jiving and lies and
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  deceit and the dance of the seven vales to arrive always on the same answer.
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  That's what they consider nuance. They only is one answer, but because
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  it's so wrong, we have to do this incredibly elaborate gymnastics routine to get
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  to it. And that's what's nuanced. Okay, yeah, nance, I
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  think I think I'm gonna be ranting a lot today. Does sound like it.
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  I'm here for it. Slay, all right, let's keep going.
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  As Jesse Jenner established in her video, according to Debbie and John Phillips,
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  male privilege is quote a special status conferred on males and societies where male supremacy
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  is the central social organizing feature. Beautiful sight that stop. No, no
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  male supremacy. Okay, right off the bat. A man loses every single
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  one of his privileges when he's called up for war to serve to protect you.
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  Like, I just don't like that you have to just ignore huge swaths
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  of reality to even vomit that shit out of your mouth. Yeah, Like,
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  it's it's just just like, no, you you, you, you
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  cannot ignore this. There is nothing that a man creates for himself, dreams
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  for himself, or anything that is not he is not expected to sacrifice should
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  he society decided to send him to war to protect you? Like, is
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  that the actions of people who that isn't the freaking hilarious, not hilarious,
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  but disturbing thing about all of this and more? Isn't the only manifestation of
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  society's willingness to sacrifice men for its own aim. You know, like every
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  single infrastructure project in the US and in particular the UK has a male body
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  count to it, like the tunnel under the Thames. I really recommend people
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  watching that that documentary to find out what they went through to create that tunnel
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  and how many men died to do it the railway. Same difference getting gold,
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  getting oil out of the ground, whaling and what is the what is
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  the end result of all of this male expendability. Women Women have more and
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  more comfortable lives the biggest benefit for all of this male expendability. For example,
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  let's just take whale oil. Women don't have to spend as much of
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  their time making and reconstituting candles, all right. They don't have to spend
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  as much as the um things like electricity and indoor heating. They don't have
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  to spend as much of their time gathering wood, like all of this used
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  to be women's labor that was completely replaced by utilities. And then also canning
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  and all of this infrastructure around food preparation production completely replaced women's labor when it
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  came to the preservation of food. So bit by bit by bit, the
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  sacrifices of men, the expendability of men, has translated into reducing women's labor
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  in the home. And then what do women do they do? This?
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  Jeez like, like literally, men died to create this, and then what
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  do women do with their extra time? How are we being pressed by a
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  society that is absolutely okay with sacrificing men to make sure that you don't have
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  to gather wood or make candles? Like yeah, and yeah, the thing
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  is that the infrastructure, all of the men sacrifice for the infrastructure, sacrifice
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  for modern technology. And you know one one one fire factory, factory,
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  fire the shirtwaist factory that that actually hits women, and every you know,
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  all the labor has to change because women are now might be affected by it.
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  Okay, It's like male expendability built the world that we live in.
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  And then you have the audacity to beak off about how men are valued more
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  than women. Are you fucking kidding me? And then again once again,
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  selective service is a black and white illustration of who has value in our society
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  and who is expected to sacrifice for that value. So don't give me this
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  shit, your delusional clue Okay, once you start with the one big lie,
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  do you notice how you just sort of pile on more lies and more
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  delusions. Do you notice that's what's happening with these people. Yeah, maybe
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  we should go back to the one big lie that even the conservatives seem to
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  have trouble with, which is this idea that men don't sacrifice for women somehow,
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  like you know men in the past, men and other cultures, they
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  don't sacrifice for women. They don't protect and provide for women. Even even
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  conservatives believe that crap. They even sucked into it for whatever reason. Anyway,
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  Okay, I don't even remember what they said anymore. That's okay,
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  all right, patients, they're happening great. So systemically, men have certain
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  advantages that women do not. Scholar Peggy Macintosh describe these advantages as an invisible,
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  witless snapset, a special problem. Good because I'm glad when invisible and
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  witless because he can't be waiting, it can't be seen. How convenient.
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  But it's totally there, guys, who He's totally there. Guys. The
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  Emperor's clothes absolutely splendiffer us, They're totally there. Jesus, have you heard
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  about the invisible knapsack. Um, I know, I'm serious, Like,
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  this is the this is the this is feminist theory right here, or or
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  whatever. I don't even know if theory is right. It's not theory.
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  Theory has predictive value. As far as I can tell. Every time I
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  read a feminist paper, their theory predicts nothing, and they their their research
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  continuously proves that they are incapable of predicting anything with their theory. So it's
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  not a theory. It's not even a conjecture. It's not even a hypothesis
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  at this point. It's a superstition. It's a good way to put it.
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  Let's learn about the invisible knapsack that has special provisions, assurances tools,
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  assurances tools, vision naps guy, it's code books, passports, compass,
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  emergency gear, and blank checks. She wrote that in the context of white
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  privilege and applied the same concept to mail privilege. What the fun? So,
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  yeah, men, we all have that, and that's bad. Okay.
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  I'm just telling you that I'm not going to be able to handle more
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  than an hour of this, maybe forty five minutes, Like this is this,
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  I'm already my blood pressure. I can I can handle my doctor.
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  Don't hurt yourself. Just don't hurt yourself. Yeah, um, you know,
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  just just jumping out of a nap being like somebody is about to kill
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  themselves with burst the fucking vessel in her goddamn heart. Okay, let's let's
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  let's let's hear about their delusions. Yeah, more delusions incoming. Men may
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  not realize they carry it with them, but they do, and they rely
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  on its contents to get through life general. What they do they do?
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  Yeah they do? Okay, what what are they? He said? This
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  is what do you have? Any Like? What they're gonna say is the
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  wage gap? I guess at this point probably, um, I mean probably
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  the wage gap is probably in a in a in about ten years. May
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  only be a driven by the fact that men occupy the worst jobs in our
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  society, the worst jobs that nobody wants, so they have to be paid
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  more. Yeah. Oh god, this makes me cry, This makes me
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  weep, This is so okay. So yeah, basic and have different relationships
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  with their male privilege. Well sis, men spend their whole lives being free.
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  Wait wait wait wait wait yeah wait, so we're not even going to
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  explain what it is? What what is, or what the knapsack? Well,
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  male privilege, Yeah, what the knapsack, I'm saying, you know
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  what, I could probably give you. I could probably give you a rundown.
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  At this point of course, it's it's the wage gap, right.
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  We aren't going to look at the fact that women make different choices. The
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  wage gap is significantly smaller in more traditional countries, strangely enough, Nor are
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  we going to look at the fact that men occupy the worst jobs in society,
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  which is going to increase the wage overall of men, and will always
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  increase the wage overall of men because women won't do those jobs, because most
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  people won't do those jobs, because people don't want those jobs, all right,
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  And then we're going to look at, oh, the labor gap of
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  domestic labor because men women apparently do a half hour more if you don't include
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  commuting and yard care and and other stuff like that. And then and then
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  another male privilege is not being hooted at in public, which I have honestly
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  got ladies. I think that's going to be a thing of the past.
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  Yeah, really, yeah, I don't think men are doing that anymore,
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  and women have to deal with I guess spousal murder, even though it was
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  equal in the seventies, and for some reason, just what happened is less
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  black men ended up getting killed by their partners. So feminists have turned a
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  situation getting better for black men into patriarchy, into evidence of patriarchy. So
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  if you're black, if you're a black dude listening to me, think about
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  that, if anything gets better for you, that's going to be evidence of
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  feminist patriarchy. Oh and okay, see so domestic violence, except most of
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  the population surveys do not find that big of a difference between men and women
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  as victims of domestic violence, and in fact, most of the population surveys
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  don't find a big difference between men and women as victims of rape. You
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  can go all the way down the line, and none of these things are
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  things that are socially acceptable or legal, and they're all considered male privileges.
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  And what are the female privileges. Okay, Well, if a woman divorces
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  her spouses, her male spouses obligations to her do not cease. He is
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  still expected to be financially responsible for her upkeep. She's more likely to get
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  the children. Statistically, she receives sixty percent less punishment like from the judicial
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  system, and her as a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault, she
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  has something like thousands of places to go. Men have three or four in
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  the US, Okay, like legitimate places, not just hotel vouchers or homeless
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  shelters, which also privilege women by the way they get first spots and homeless
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  shelters. Okay. When you ask people who would you rather benefit men or
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  women? They say women, which is why stuff like this exists. Incidentally,
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  guys, the reason why you get all of this energy put towards the
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  idea that women have it bad is because people care and they're gonna give you
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  money. Like you, you just sit, You just sit there on a
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  corner with your womenade stand and you say, women are victims of the invisible
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  knapsack, the invisible knapsack. What horrible thing is that? I totally believe
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  in it. I don't need any women are victims. That's all the other
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  beence I need. Here's loads and loads of cash, loads and loads of
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  cash. Go pay your board members thirty thousand dollars an hour to sit and
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  have tea. Oh okay, I feel like I feel like I'm monopolizing everything.
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  No, no, it's okay, I'm I am energy pained. Um,
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  okay, well there's that. Yes, trans men typically do not.
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  We spend some portion of our lives being perceived as women, which impacts how
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  we are socialized by our parents, our friends, our schools, our workplaces,
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  by every person and institution we encounter. Trans mends access to mail privilege
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  depends on how we are perceived by society. Okay, pausing it there,
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  you know, ironically, Oh god, damn, we're just gonna hump this
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  till till everything breaks, you know that. Yeah, the weasons are just
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  gonna They're just gonna They're just gonna hump these packing put peanuts until there's none
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  left. All right, Um, no, there's not much more. So
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  how much mail privileged you have proportionately, because you know, when you're a
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  kid, presumably you realize that kids aren't really that privileged relative to adults.
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  So presumably at some point, if you are perceived to be a man as
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  an adult, you have more. You're starting to really really stack on those
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  privilege points. So how does all of this work? How does all of
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  this jerrymandering fall out? Like I just see her mind is like, well,
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  his mind is like that one of those those breakfast machines where you hit
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  something and then another thing hits and it's just like, where does this all
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  end? Yeah, probably with a cracked egg frying in a pan your brain
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  on feminism? Okay, all right, let's go. And how we're perceived
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  is not stagnant. It changes over time, and in every interaction. Our
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  perception as male, if it ever comes, it's bestowed upon us gradually.
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  Slowly. We are greeted by more sirs than man's and referred to with more
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  keys than she's. Is okay, all right, So once you are always
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  referred to as he, you suddenly have male privilege. You know, you
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  can't opine on the issue of male privilege because you don't have to sign up
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  for the draft. Yeah, yeah, we covered that. I heard,
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  I heard that. Um I saw a was one of the other panels we
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  did, and there was all the trans man in the in the thing we
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  did last time where you know that you had like the male feminists versus the
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  female anti feminists, and one of him was a trans man and uh,
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  he did say that like in one of the segments we didn't cover that he
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  was supposed to. He had to sign up for the draft now that he's
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  transitioned. So I don't know, maybe it's just a California thing. No,
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  he doesn't, he's totally full of crap. Or yeah, and on
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  the Selective Service site it says born mail that's it. Oh how about that?
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  Yeah, well so I'm I'm you know, trans women, you might
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  not want to give up your stoicism too much because you might find yourself in
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  a trench where that's the only thing that's keeping you alive. Does your ability
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  to just let Missouri go? Yeah? All right? All right, well
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  a transition after all. So for us, we notice when society starts treating
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  us differently. For us, the knapsack is not invisible when we are read
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  assists men like Gate's open and we surf a tsunami of privilege. Oh yeah,
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  really, what we're gonna say? So, so she's so, I'm
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  sorry this person is saying that, Um, when we're gonna find Yeah,
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  when when they because they because they started off as women or you know,
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  a press group X, because they lived like that before transitioning, they are
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  made aware of like all of these invisible knapsacked goodies that only men have,
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  so of course men don't know it, and you know what, he can
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  prove it. But this person, she's seen it. He's seen it.
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  They've seen it. Sorry, okay, I have a question. Is there
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  like you is your is your voice slowed down a little bit? Because it
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  seems like it's a little slow. Yeah, it's a little slowed down.
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  It sounds like you're, you know, really getting into um uh, maybe
• 28:37
  a little bit smashed. Shall we say? Oh no, no, no,
• 28:41
  no, I think I've heard this before. It just it's I think
• 28:45
  it's for some reason, your voice is slowed down. Oh that's weird.
• 28:49
  Wait did that happen? Is that like, um, like I'm talking slow
• 28:53
  or yeah, you're talking a little bit slurry, is what it is.
• 28:59
  It's interesting, So I don't know if that's a that's a sound thing.
• 29:02
  No, my mouth's really dry though. Okay, maybe maybe get some water.
• 29:07
  I'm curious what the heck this individual is going to say that the tsunami
• 29:11
  of privilege? Yeah, the tsunami. And do you want to know about
• 29:15
  the tell me about the tsunami. Some of the things we can experience include
• 29:21
  not having our appearance under constant scrutiny, not having to fight for space and
• 29:23
  conversations and actually asked, yeah, are you okay? Look, men have
• 29:33
  their appearance under You know. What was interesting to me is I noticed something
• 29:40
  about this flag that they have the weird sort of symbols and everything as a
• 29:45
  result of it. And this is something I've never noticed before. Men are
• 29:49
  feeling more free to I spoke about this, the guy with the nails and
• 29:56
  the other dude in the dress with the hoop earrings. I hope he was
• 30:00
  not trying to present as a woman because that wasn't happening. But but um,
• 30:06
  but they felt more free to express themselves visually because now they can they
• 30:11
  can appeal to the binary nombinary. Right, I'm non binary, you know,
• 30:18
  and so that protects me, am I as a man in expressing myself.
• 30:22
  You realize, dude, men don't get much shit about their appearance because
• 30:30
  they know that they have to wear their prison jammies every day and not draw
• 30:36
  attention to it. They've learned that, Yeah, you know, so they
• 30:41
  don't do it. And so I mean, who cares? Like, who
• 30:45
  cares if Jeff is wearing prison spots, prison smock number one or prison smock
• 30:51
  number two. There's almost no difference, So no one cares as long as
• 30:56
  he's in a prison smock. And that's the thing. This is why I
• 31:00
  brought up that how they're you know, using this non binary thing to actually
• 31:03
  increase their ability to express themselves visually. Okay, prior to that, you
• 31:11
  know, men are not supposed to draw attention to themselves visually, and if
• 31:14
  they do, they get shit. So they've learned not to. So you
• 31:18
  you're not you're not actually recognizing a privilege that you have as so much as
• 31:23
  not recognizing a disprivilege that men have lived with through their whole life. So
• 31:29
  they've accommodated. Now here here, dude, Okay, to understand this,
• 31:36
  go and look at the clothing choices that men have, right, the average
• 31:41
  clothing choices that men have. Look at how constrained they are. Like I
• 31:47
  said, they're basically a bunch of prisons mocks. And that's it. Now,
• 31:52
  realize that the fact that men's appearance is unremarkable, it's why it's not
• 31:59
  remarked to pawn and realize the pressure to conform to being as unobtrusive as possible
• 32:07
  is why there is such a restricted number of choices for men's attire and that.
• 32:13
  And the funny thing is is I've watched men's attire get more and more
• 32:16
  and more restrictive decade by decade by decade, I've watched more and you'll look
• 32:23
  look at the eighties. You remember the freaking booty shorts in the in the
• 32:27
  in the crop top t shirts that men were wearing. Yeah, Like if
• 32:31
  you look back in the like the videos, and then if you look back,
• 32:37
  the crop top shirt was the bomb. That was like yeah, and
• 32:42
  you go back to the seventies and I mean I wasn't part of the seventies,
• 32:45
  but I you could still see some of that in the eighties and men
• 32:49
  were wearing the super tight pants, yeah, and then at the shirt down
• 32:54
  to their navel and that kind of thing, like all of that, like
• 32:57
  year by year by year by year by year, men's clothing choices have been
• 33:00
  restricted to the prison smock. So nobody remarks on it because it's unremarkable,
• 33:06
  and that's the point. But the pressure is there, and you just did
• 33:09
  never notice it, did you, Because you didn't grow up a man,
• 33:15
  so you didn't you didn't experience the sausage maker. Right, And then he's
• 33:21
  turned he's turned around and no pining on something he has no freaking clue about.
• 33:24
  Yep, that's what I thought too. And I've seen a few videos,
• 33:30
  um and clips of trans men, uh, you know, basically using
• 33:36
  their this this kind of argument to attack regular men, you know, which,
• 33:42
  by the way, we never really cared about trans man. It wasn't
• 33:46
  like nobody, no men had said, oh my god, I don't want
• 33:49
  a woman in my bathroom. Well there was one woman who was, well,
• 33:53
  there was one trans man who was uh, who was beaten to death
• 33:59
  I think in the early in the nineties. But oh that's one we never
• 34:05
  like one compared to like thousands and thousands of gay and trans women a year,
• 34:12
  gay men and trans women years. But the one got got her own
• 34:15
  movie or his own movie. So we all know about it, Tanya or
• 34:21
  something going to Tom I think I don't remember the name. But anyway,
• 34:24
  it was a big thing back in the nineties. Um. But okay,
• 34:29
  so what else did they say? They said, actually being asked to share
• 34:31
  our opinions? Okay, well, yeah, like having space because apparently women
• 34:37
  can't do that, but now that she's a trans man, she can do
• 34:40
  that. So it's like, oh, I got this privilege? How does
• 34:45
  how does this individual know that? Like, I really have a doubt they
• 34:51
  don't know. But I even have a doubt that they talk about this transition,
• 34:54
  I really have. I really doubt they're at the point where people are
• 34:58
  calling them sir. Oh yeah, I know. No I don't, so
• 35:01
  how the hell do you even know this? And I can tell that they
• 35:05
  are reading off of some kind of script of course, because they're looking and
• 35:08
  you know I do that, but I write the script. Did this person
• 35:10
  write the script? I don't know? But regardless, like men get space,
• 35:20
  Yeah, well, where's the men's space to talk about their issues?
• 35:23
  Well? Make it? Nobody else does? Right? This is this is
• 35:28
  it and the other things? You know? What do you mean by space?
• 35:32
  Can ask to share your opinion? Okay? When are masked men asked?
• 35:37
  Really asked to share their opinion about anything? Yeah? I mean?
• 35:43
  And and you have you yet to have the whole be shamed by being said
• 35:47
  told your man's planning it? Apparently they're not being not being recognized as a
• 35:53
  man, then, m okay, all right to share our opinion. Having
• 36:00
  pockets that can fit more than two thirds of our cell phones paying that is
• 36:06
  Wait? Wait, wait, that is ridiculous. The pockets thing. Yeah,
• 36:09
  the pockets thing. You know why, I could tell you exactly why
• 36:14
  women's pockets are so shallow, all right. I went to a um A
• 36:21
  presentation. It was a it was an urban design kind of business presentation where
• 36:29
  we were presenting designs for Fort Mac way before it got burnt to the ground,
• 36:35
  UM. And I was partnered with a woman and she was like,
• 36:42
  I can't carry the like the the slide flicker or well. It was like,
• 36:47
  um, that thing that controls the power point in my pocket, because
• 36:54
  that will make me look fat. I got to take all the stuff out
• 36:57
  of my pockets. I'm like, dude, really, um, you know,
• 37:01
  I'm like waddling in with my industrially stuffed pockets. I don't care,
• 37:08
  but she did, and most women do. That's why they have these ridiculously
• 37:14
  small pockets, because they don't want their thighs to look fat, you know.
• 37:20
  And I have a solution for you, ladies. I know it requires
• 37:23
  you to have the least amount of personal responsibility and agency, but this is
• 37:28
  what I do. I have a fanny pack. That way I can carry
• 37:34
  everything um that I need. And I also have a satchel satchel. These
• 37:43
  are the things. Yeah, I know maybe men no a satchel. I
• 37:46
  have a satchel, but you could have a person. Maybe the men haven't
• 37:50
  informed women that there are things called bags, Like you guys have been holding
• 37:53
  out on us. And we compare this stuff to what we talk about.
• 38:02
  Yeah, bring the satchel back from men. Yeah, compare this to what
• 38:07
  we talk about. This is pathetic. Yeah, and though it is,
• 38:12
  it is so. Oh and men pay less for haircuts. That's because hit
• 38:17
  men have like you know, the their their haircut is what setting do you
• 38:22
  want on the on the razor? You want it on two or four?
• 38:27
  I only do two or four. I got a haircut recently. I literally
• 38:30
  said, I give me a two on the backs and the sides. So
• 38:35
  yeahs Like seriously, women are like, if you're going to cut women's hair,
• 38:40
  it's like rocket science. It's a progress. They're gonna tell you,
• 38:45
  like the reality show character that they're basing their hairstyle on, and you have
• 38:49
  to know who that is and you have to know all of the various alchemy
• 38:52
  and make it happen. Right, So that's why women's haircuts a cost more
• 38:58
  like literally it's it's the prison smart principle. More men's haircuts a two or
• 39:02
  four? What are women's haircuts? Well, first I want to have it
• 39:07
  feathered, and I also want to make sure that we get the property.
• 39:10
  You know, it's like it's an extended process. You want your haircuts to
• 39:15
  be as cheap as a man's haircut, then your haircut's got to be a
• 39:20
  two or four. Ladies the rock Ei Jane, Look, yeah, okay,
• 39:27
  all right, that's getting a noticeable increase in our paychecks. I don't
• 39:32
  well, for the love of God, what that is? Says bullshit?
• 39:39
  That's the wage gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the wage gap.
• 39:44
  Noticeable increase in your paycheck? Did you honestly? Oh you're a trans
• 39:49
  man, right you The moment you got called sir, they were like,
• 39:52
  sir, can we increase your paycheck by twent This doesn't even require any kind
• 40:02
  of commentary or argument. It's just bullshit on its face. It is,
• 40:07
  I mean, the premise from the get from the jump, it was bad.
• 40:13
  The moment you start with, well we since we live in a patriarchy,
• 40:16
  like everything else, you know, um falls apart thought called um,
• 40:28
  I guess, but have you seen the like the the video of the women.
• 40:34
  Oh h yeah, following that one hot dude and just creeping all over
• 40:38
  them. Yeah. Yeah, you're just a women get just like you know
• 40:45
  with musicians. Let's look at let's okay, how about this for a privilege?
• 40:51
  Now, if you get raped, sir, nobody cares. How's that
• 40:58
  for a privilege? Maybe? Maybe if you asked guys who have been raped,
• 41:02
  especially by women, if they had a choice between enduring cat calling or
• 41:07
  being in a society where where their experience actually is taken seriously, they might
• 41:13
  prefer the society of being cat called. Yet rape is actually your rape is
• 41:17
  actually taken seriously, and it is don't give me this shit. It one
• 41:22
  hundred percent is in the US as a charge of rape has the same rate
• 41:29
  of of being of ending in a conviction as any other crime, any other
• 41:37
  violent crime. And in in UK, which is freaking astounding, the charge
• 41:45
  of rape, the average crime is about fifty percent will end in a conviction.
• 41:52
  For rape, it's seventy five percent in the UK. You better goddamn
• 41:55
  believe they take the rape of women seriously. Hell, you can't even be
• 41:59
  raped if you're a man in the UK, unless it's by another man.
• 42:02
  Yep. So it's like, yeah, no, I think we got you
• 42:06
  beat dear hands down in terms of or at least this men's issues advocates in
• 42:14
  terms of problems that we're advocating for anybody giving a fuck about. Yeah,
• 42:21
  so we got a super chow. I thought, yeah, get it out
• 42:24
  real quick. So Great Indoors gives us five dollars and says, and now
• 42:30
  you women like doctor Helen Caldicott, who's an anti nuclear activist advocating candlelight instead
• 42:37
  of electricity, we're going full circle and getting dizzy. And certainly that was
• 42:43
  about twenty minutes ago. So thank you Great Indoors. I don't know if
• 42:45
  you want to say anything about that, but okay, thank you Great Indoors.
• 42:50
  And once again, if you want to send us a messages that feed
• 42:52
  the Badger dot com slash, just the tip very much appreciated. I don't
• 42:55
  see we've got anything in for the fundraiser, so I don't have anything thankies
• 43:00
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  can, very much appreciated. Sometimes it feels like we're screaming into avoid.
• 43:09
  But when you guys support us, we know we're not um, you know.
• 43:14
  And also when you send us messages, nice messages like yeah you exist,
• 43:17
  we hear you. That's good too. But unfortunately, you know,
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  things, things cost things, So it does really help to be able to
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  continue to do this. So feed the Badger dot com slash support if you
• 43:32
  want to help us out with that. Um all right, all right,
• 43:37
  keep going. Let's keep going called not being afraid to take public transit,
• 43:42
  not feeling scared when walking alone at night. However, so okay, I
• 43:49
  would just go ahead. Do you want to say something not being scared at
• 43:52
  night? You don't need to be scared at night, to be honest,
• 43:57
  Well you do. Now if you get seem to be a man, you
• 44:02
  should be afraid of night now because now you have a far greater likelihood of
• 44:08
  getting your ass kicked or mug Yeah. So this is it. This is
• 44:14
  their list of stupid privileges. It's just a bunch of bullshit about what they
• 44:16
  think the men situation for men is. Yeah, I mean I think it's
• 44:22
  more like it is a longer video. There's it goes, it goes into
• 44:27
  like their transition and everything. But yeah, I think mostly it's just like
• 44:36
  this I don't know this like idea that um, this idea that like just
• 44:42
  because you transitioned, you can like very clearly see like all of these advantages
• 44:49
  and and you get to say, oh, well, this is how it
• 44:52
  changed how I feel like that whole Like I don't feel afraid, you know,
• 44:58
  when I'm walking at home at night. That's not something that can be
• 45:01
  measured by anyone. You're just telling us that you're What you're telling us is
• 45:07
  that when you were a woman, um, you were afraid, and for
• 45:10
  some reason we're made to be. I don't know if that makes sense.
• 45:17
  Yep, Like you don't. You shouldn't feel afraid because you're not like literally,
• 45:22
  you are not like literally you are not You are significantly less likely to
• 45:29
  be aggressed against than a man walking home at night. Yeah, full stop,
• 45:34
  that's it. It's just that men. Men have a higher I guess,
• 45:37
  risk tolerance, so they're more likely to do it. They're less likely
• 45:43
  to be afraid, they're more likely to just you know, assume everything's going
• 45:45
  to be fine. All right, yet okay, more we only retrace these
• 45:54
  privileges when we are read as this straight man, as trans men are,
• 45:59
  Male privilege is contingent on how well we pass and what we pass as.
• 46:04
  For instance, if a trans man is not taking testosterone, it is likely
• 46:07
  that he will be read by society as a butch lesbian. Being seen um,
• 46:12
  just pausing there for the banana, So might be seen as a butch
• 46:16
  lesbian is a problem. Why does it? Why does it matter? And
• 46:24
  what does that have to do with male privilege? I mean, I don't
• 46:30
  even think butch lesbians really are that distinct? Trump, Nah, people think
• 46:37
  people care that much? Yeah? Well, I mean, yeah, I
• 46:45
  just don't think that the butch lesbians really fall outside. I mean, because
• 46:49
  the thing is that the society gives women such a wide latitude for how they
• 46:54
  can behave simply because you know, they value women, and women get a
• 47:00
  lot more freedom in their expression and almost every every conceivable metric that I mean,
• 47:07
  aside from maybe a you know, like a drunken frat boy calling you
• 47:10
  a dike? Like, what really happens to push lesbians especially compared to gay
• 47:15
  men? All right, let's keep going. All right, maybe something interesting
• 47:22
  comes out of this person's mouth. As a queer woman makes someone very susceptible
• 47:27
  to misogynists. Please don't laugh like discrimination. Oh no it doesn't right,
• 47:35
  Oh god damn. You want to talk about the violence, that being a
• 47:38
  queer woman or a lesbian makes you vulnerable due domestic violence, like it's I've
• 47:45
  read the stats in the US again, the UK is some sort of weird
• 47:49
  anomally because apparently British men are works. But everywhere else a woman is like
• 47:54
  in the US, in particular, a woman is If a woman has a
• 47:58
  female partner, she's nineteen times more likely to be subject to domestic violence and
• 48:04
  murder than if she has a male partner. I think it's a nineteen.
• 48:07
  It was like some unbelievably ridiculous might have been nine, not nineteen unbelievably ridiculous
• 48:14
  multiplying factor. And no, you're not like I have seen the lists of
• 48:20
  men killed by homophobic violence the vastly dwarf women, and honestly, most of
• 48:30
  the women were probably killed by their female partners on that list. Let's let's
• 48:34
  be frank, you know, so this is this is not something like this
• 48:38
  is a gay man's problem that you have co opted to somehow become a trans
• 48:45
  man's problem. And from there a woman's problem, which has got to be
• 48:52
  the most nuanced use of intersectionality asking it, I would give that that gymnastics
• 48:59
  routine a nine. How many nuances? Is it getting nine? Nine out
• 49:05
  of ten? Nine out of ten nuances? Congratulations? That is one of
• 49:09
  the most spectacular series of back flip backflips to land on women. Have it
• 49:14
  worse I've ever seen. Okay, um, I got a super I got
• 49:21
  a super shower from I guess it's just an anonymous post for fifty dollars and
• 49:28
  no message, so, you know, thank you so much for that.
• 49:34
  But I don't know, like what if you wanted to send us a message,
• 49:37
  you can DM me or I'm sorry, tagged me in a post in
• 49:43
  the live chat and add the message because sometimes people don't get it through.
• 49:46
  So all right anyway, Oh and Senior Stix gives us two dollars and says
• 49:53
  reading feminists please for the fans and myself. Oh, I don't have that
• 49:59
  yet. That sound. I'm sorry. I'm still working on like getting my
• 50:04
  library together. So and that, I think is it. So let's continue
• 50:09
  the video. If a trans man is perceived as a lesbian, he is
• 50:15
  not benefiting from male privilege, and while some trans men do pass assist men
• 50:19
  we maybe read as sis gay men. Sometimes this is a result of habits
• 50:22
  we retain from our female socialization. Like, all right, so could you
• 50:28
  stop with the vocal fry please? Yeah? That might help? Well,
• 50:35
  I don't okay, never mind. The thing is another thing they have this
• 50:40
  kind of like broady you know, um, what's the name of that woman
• 50:47
  that that the comedian? Just like this thro voice. I don't know why
• 50:52
  it's I think it's the hormones they're taking, but but it sounds like that.
• 50:58
  It's it's like vocal all the time. You know. Another thing that
• 51:01
  would make him pass better if he actually acted, he actually had a masculine
• 51:07
  gender expression, and that would mean that he'd have to knock off the scrabbling
• 51:14
  for victim of points that he's doing. Yeah, okay, dude, the
• 51:20
  big difference between men and women, and you're going to have a hell of
• 51:22
  a lot, a hell of a time trying to pass for a man with
• 51:27
  that facial structure, with the broad broadness through the cheekbones and the forehead and
• 51:34
  the thinness in his chin. So you might want to consider learning how men
• 51:39
  express themselves in terms of their gender. Yeah, because it's different than women.
• 51:46
  And right here, right now, you are acting like a woman because
• 51:51
  you are greedily grabbing after victimhood points and trying to avoid being perceived to be
• 51:59
  powerful or having having strength. Okay, that is the exact opposite when men
• 52:06
  express themselves. And this I'm basing this on psychological statistics that haven't been tainted
• 52:12
  by the feminists. You know, they're ironically there is this like this this
• 52:16
  quiet underground current of people doing real science in psychology sociology. Yeah, they
• 52:25
  just sort of they just sort of like try not to not to do catch
• 52:30
  the attention of the feminist t rex. So they're just quietly off in their
• 52:35
  corner. We're doing real science. They can't see you if you don't move,
• 52:38
  Yeah, they can't, yeah exactly. But anyway, so they found
• 52:44
  that the way that men express themselves can be defined in terms of or the
• 52:50
  the way they expresses the wrong way to not express in terms of a performance,
• 52:55
  but express in terms of behavior, like I don't know, flying is
• 53:00
  an expression of a bird, um of a bird's physiometry, whatever. Men
• 53:07
  see themselves in terms of their effect on their environment. So you can see
• 53:13
  that in the things that boys are drawn to, Like they're drawn to trucks
• 53:19
  and um, you know, cars and stuff and that that stuff that allows
• 53:22
  them to carry more or to move faster. They love that kind of stuff,
• 53:27
  right, um. And they like testing themselves against their environment. That's
• 53:30
  a male expression. It seeks to see itself in terms of its its effect
• 53:37
  on the environment. Yeah, and to increase the power of that effect on
• 53:40
  the environment. Okay, you're not doing that. You're not passing, you're
• 53:49
  not even trying to pass. And you know why because you have no actual
• 53:54
  pue clue what men are like or what they do. And that is that
• 54:01
  like everything you do indicates you know nothing about men. Nothing. I don't
• 54:14
  even know what you think you're emulating. Yeah, yeah, Well, and
• 54:22
  it's freaking sad because this is you are acting like a woman. Yep,
• 54:30
  you are acting. And you're not just acting like a woman. You're acting
• 54:35
  because you know women. There can be women who are more integrated who don't
• 54:42
  act like this, who maybe advocate for the vulnerability of other people, like
• 54:46
  Florence Nightingale or Madame Curie. You know, they went and they actually tried
• 54:54
  to help men. In many cases, they tried to ameliorate the suffering of
• 55:00
  war on men. You don't do that. You're not even a masculine woman.
• 55:07
  Okay, you are in your mind, and I know you identify as
• 55:13
  a man, which is I have why I don't understand because you don't obviously
• 55:19
  have no interest in finding what men actually act like, or express themselves or
• 55:24
  think like, which you know and yeah, apparently he claims he exists.
• 55:34
  Don't don't miss gender because I can get us. Sorry, I'm sorry,
• 55:39
  I'm yeah, I'm do you know, just just not demonetized, you even
• 55:44
  amortized. I'm not gonna do It's okay, It's okay, I'm gonna struggle
• 55:52
  like you. You think of yourself as a man. You want people to
• 55:55
  say you're a man, but you don't understand anything about them, nor do
• 55:59
  you want to act plick one yep, Okay, I'll call you he,
• 56:07
  but you're making a mockery of the word. Um, I'm gonna call him
• 56:16
  Harry Weasley because he looks like the love child of Harry Potter and and Weasley
• 56:23
  to me like like the mix, you know. Anyway, Yeah, speaking
• 56:31
  with varied inflection, standing with our weight distributed unevenly, we're talking excessively with
• 56:36
  our hands, no matter what causes it. Being perceived as a CIS gay
• 56:39
  man impacts our access to mail privilege. Well, CIS gay men do experience
• 56:44
  mail privilege. They also face discrimination and violence based on homophobia and asogyn All
• 56:49
  right, stop, I swear to God. That's an exact example of what
• 56:54
  intersectionality does. Yep. Intersectionality is just a series of new wants to take
• 57:00
  all the issues that men face more because gay men far more affected by homophobia
• 57:07
  than gay women, and then somehow make it that they still have male privilege.
• 57:14
  Where where is it? Is it because they pay less and for haircuts?
• 57:20
  Well, actually, I don't think gay men do pay less for haircuts
• 57:22
  because they they aren't satisfied with the two in the four. That's true,
• 57:28
  but they also are more likely to know someone who can do their hair for
• 57:30
  them. Yes, that then you know, But also they are more likely
• 57:37
  to be can't called. So there you go for that privilege. They do
• 57:40
  make more money than but they did make more money even than straight men.
• 57:46
  So is that game the gay men are like the top top tier moneymakers because
• 57:54
  what does that make Well, I'm just gonna say, because like in Chicago,
• 58:00
  when I lived in. I lived close to this area that people call
• 58:02
  Boys Town, which is the gay and well mostly gay but also lesbian like
• 58:07
  community. It was a bit weird, but all of those buildings were really
• 58:13
  expensive. So like, these guys, they were doing well. And probably
• 58:16
  because if you form a partnership with another man and you're both working, and
• 58:21
  you both have like high achieving jobs and you and you both are willing to
• 58:24
  do the over you know, whatever, the overtime um, then yeah,
• 58:30
  you're really going to be bringing it home. So no surprise there. But
• 58:34
  yeah, gay men do very well financially, I guess. Yeah, but
• 58:40
  like go through all of that, what Okay, So I guess maybe they
• 58:47
  get more for the wage gap. Is it really because gay men just our
• 58:52
  patriarchy really loves gay men? Yeah? Right, Like that is that the
• 58:57
  way that works? Because it's was like that should be the data outlier that
• 59:01
  really explains why men make more. And maybe it's just because you know,
• 59:07
  they're not women and they don't deal with them. I'm sorry, was it
• 59:15
  asked always David? So? But yeah, like it's it's if we look
• 59:22
  at that data point, is there any reason for gay men to make more
• 59:28
  except maybe one of the averaging factors is that you have the supermasculine gay men
• 59:35
  who are is much more motivated to be a workaholic because work is one again
• 59:38
  one of those ways that men express their desire to see an effect in the
• 59:43
  greater world, Like work is literally that well maybe that's spending their money on
• 59:51
  women. Yeah, well, but it's also the income, not just what
• 59:53
  they spend on Yeah, I know. It's like it's it's how much they
• 59:58
  make, how, you know, And and then it's offset by how much
• 1:00:02
  excessive spending is involved, like um, you know, like for women basically
• 1:00:08
  like expensive clothes, jewelry, whatever, Um I think, yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:14
  and then the whole like oh, you know, I gotta get a
• 1:00:15
  ring. I mean, it's it's just that, you know, Um,
• 1:00:22
  gay men don't have to spend their money on women, so I think they
• 1:00:25
  benefit from that. They gets to save some money for their perceived feminity.
• 1:00:30
  Being seen as a CIS gay man does enable some aspects of male privilege,
• 1:00:35
  but it also presents severals and even if a trans guide does pass as a
• 1:00:38
  CIS straight man, there are still certain things he will go through that assists
• 1:00:42
  man never will. Some of those things might include all right, pausing it
• 1:00:46
  there, Yeah, this is the intersectional booty hole. Um, and there's
• 1:00:55
  there's the one huge thing that cis men will have to go through that you
• 1:01:00
  never will, which actually honestly makes me sort of sick that this individual is
• 1:01:07
  calling himself a man. Yeah, because he's not gonna have to he's not
• 1:01:12
  gonna have to sign up for the draft, he's not gonna have to put
• 1:01:15
  his life in the line to protect society. And yet he gets to call
• 1:01:21
  himself a man. Well yeah, and then immediately like, um, you
• 1:01:28
  know, call yourself a man and then start talking about what men need to
• 1:01:31
  do and where they sit in the you know, the sort of oppression hierarchy
• 1:01:36
  in this in this person's mind. So you're you're speaking on men and you
• 1:01:43
  only just did that, and what is it which is kind of like,
• 1:01:46
  you know, the most like um hardcore example of women going into male spaces
• 1:01:53
  and then changing everything. So I'm not saying this is a woman. I'm
• 1:02:00
  saying the behavior is comparable, okay, And so you're never going to have
• 1:02:06
  to go to war to protect everybody else in society and I don't care.
• 1:02:10
  I got into this long argument of the feminist all, it's men sending men
• 1:02:15
  to It's not men sending men to war. Its society sending men to war.
• 1:02:20
  Society is what makes it acceptable because you know what's sending men to their
• 1:02:25
  deaths and infrastructure, it's social needs plus an indifference to male suffering. Okay,
• 1:02:34
  that's the same thing that's behind war politicians, male or female, because
• 1:02:38
  female politicians, when women are the heads of states, they don't send people
• 1:02:44
  to war less. So it's not It has nothing to do with the whether
• 1:02:49
  the person who's hitting the war button has a penis or vagina obviously, Okay.
• 1:02:55
  It is societies that go to war, and they often go to war
• 1:03:00
  because they perceive a potential benefit or a lack in their resources. And why
• 1:03:06
  because those resources go to women. That's why society exists, no offense,
• 1:03:13
  it's why society exists. And as a result, there is this compulsion to
• 1:03:21
  sacrifice men to provide resources for women, either in war or through these incredibly
• 1:03:28
  dangerous infrastructure products projects or other kinds of harvesting that's dangerous, either getting oil
• 1:03:35
  or minerals or whale blubber. Okay, that's what we do. That is
• 1:03:40
  how society is structured since time immemorial. Men do dangerous things to gather resources
• 1:03:46
  for women or not. Often those resources don't necessarily have to be only physical.
• 1:03:53
  They can also be social. So go out and kick the ass of
• 1:03:59
  the neighboring tribe and you can come back and you've counted coop against their chief
• 1:04:02
  and suddenly you're the chief and you're you're girls the chief's wife. Okay.
• 1:04:08
  So this is what men do. They put themselves on the line to provide
• 1:04:12
  for women, and that war is a part of that. And it's no
• 1:04:16
  more chosen by men than a peak. A peacock has chosen his tail,
• 1:04:24
  right, a peacock grows the tail, but he hasn't chosen it, and
• 1:04:29
  he hasn't constructed it. Okay, So this thing is huge, and it's
• 1:04:33
  completely ignored by him. He's never going to have to go to war to
• 1:04:38
  protect anybody else in his life. He doesn't understand the pressure of that,
• 1:04:43
  because even when it's not actually happening there, it's still in the back of
• 1:04:47
  men's minds somewhere, Okay, all right, coming out as trans facing rejection
• 1:04:58
  from loved ones, losing housing, having at a high risk for poverty,
• 1:05:00
  being more likely to be in an abusive relationship. Struggling to find this,
• 1:05:04
  does this correlation? Or Okay, you're if you're trans, you're more likely
• 1:05:09
  to be an abusive relationship. Yeah, presumably you're in in a relationship with
• 1:05:14
  women. What I've noticed is that, um, trans men and trans women
• 1:05:19
  really don't challenge the idea of who society expects you to be attracted to.
• 1:05:26
  So for the most part, trans men want to be in relationships with women,
• 1:05:30
  and trans women want to be in relationships with women. That's what I've
• 1:05:31
  noticed. Huh, it makes sense. Yeah, so if you're trans,
• 1:05:40
  you're more likely to be in a relationship with a woman. Well, no,
• 1:05:42
  wonder you're dealing with more domestic violence. Congratulations, yep. Um.
• 1:05:48
  But the other thing, well, I guess also men are more likely to
• 1:05:50
  be in a relationship with women. Well, a disproportionate percentage of trans people
• 1:05:58
  have had like you know, childhood. Yeah, yeah, like they've been
• 1:06:04
  like sexually abused or correlation is a correlation or causation what I'm saying? Or
• 1:06:14
  yeah, but that's the question is are trans people more likely to be abused
• 1:06:18
  or abuse people more likely to be trans? Well there's that, and then
• 1:06:23
  also in turn be abusive, which is probably why the domestic issues between trans
• 1:06:28
  people you know, are a problem, because if they've been abused, and
• 1:06:31
  they're more likely to abuse in turn. So okay, oh, miss Anne
• 1:06:41
  of ARC gives us five dollars through a super chowl thank you, and says,
• 1:06:45
  these poor kids are going to experience the school of hard knocks once they
• 1:06:48
  have to get their hands dirty for once. Okay, they probably won't.
• 1:06:57
  So you know, I don't think any trans men are going into the coal
• 1:07:00
  coal mines or the oil rigs or yeah, you know, firefighting. No,
• 1:07:09
  no, no, no, They're probably gonna look for jobs in the
• 1:07:15
  um, you know, cubicle sector, do a desk job and be done
• 1:07:18
  with it anyway. Be in affirming healthcare, needing invasive and expensive surgeries to
• 1:07:25
  feel at home and feeling safe, not feeling safe traveling? What oh god
• 1:07:38
  is it? Oh? You mean like if you are uh like not passing
• 1:07:44
  and you get on a plane and some random like you know, passenger flips
• 1:07:48
  out. Is that what you do? Is that? What you mean?
• 1:07:51
  Like, that's a dude, you know, if it if it prove if
• 1:07:57
  I here's this trans man's pre vilage over a cists man's privilege. It's likely
• 1:08:02
  that the only genital surgery that will be done to you will be voluntary.
• 1:08:05
  You will have chosen it, hopefully as an adult, whereas sists men in
• 1:08:12
  the US has a fifty fifty chance of having had his genitals cut into when
• 1:08:19
  he wasn't old enough to object without anesthesia. Yep, that's what really gets
• 1:08:27
  me. I mean, they don't even cut they don't even castrate caps without
• 1:08:30
  anesthesia now because it's considered cruelty, or at least the veterinary people can recommend
• 1:08:36
  it. But you know, boys, you can do that. Just cut,
• 1:08:43
  just slice into And the funny thing is is that people constance will all,
• 1:08:47
  but it is not. It's just a flap of skin. Okay,
• 1:08:49
  well your nail is just a little flap of curtinous material there. What do
• 1:08:56
  you think of taking a little baby boy at the age of six days old
• 1:09:00
  old, taking a razor blade and just popping off some nails. Does that
• 1:09:05
  sound like something that we should be doing to babies that isn't a sexual part.
• 1:09:12
  But surely that you know the same principle applied to a boy's penis.
• 1:09:16
  I mean, even if you don't consider what they're cutting off the penis to
• 1:09:20
  be sexual, which is astounding to me. I mean, you got to
• 1:09:25
  at least realize that if you're if you, if you have a doctor who's
• 1:09:29
  like, you know, your baby boys thumbnails they could use with a bit
• 1:09:32
  of a we should cut them off just so he doesn't get them dirty and
• 1:09:38
  just takes a razor and starts going. Would we'll be okay with that?
• 1:09:45
  Let's just take it out of the realm of the argument over how much is
• 1:09:48
  sexual parts are taken off with circumcision? Would we be okay with doing that?
• 1:09:55
  No one? If we only did it with baby girls, Believe me,
• 1:09:59
  the feminist will be all over that. So yeah, that is a
• 1:10:01
  privilege that trans man has. Your Your genitals are yours to fuck with,
• 1:10:08
  ye assists man, and a lot of trans women have already had their genitals
• 1:10:13
  fucked with before they were old enough to punch the fucker who was touching them.
• 1:10:19
  Okay. Needing to amend every legal document under the sun to avoid scrutiny
• 1:10:26
  from bartenders, bankers, ts, agents, and anyone else who needs to
• 1:10:30
  see legal forms of identification see all. Imagine having to give identification. Imagine
• 1:10:39
  imagine, Imagine that's something that sounds that sounds that just sounds like so much
• 1:10:44
  emotional. This is also privilege that system women. Okay, this, this
• 1:10:51
  is a privilege, sistus. Women also have not having to deal with fucking
• 1:10:55
  paperwork to change their gender identity. So this is ridiculous. Why are you
• 1:10:58
  calling it male privilege? Yep, yep. And you know again, like
• 1:11:05
  all of this sounds like stuff that they felt was true for that when they
• 1:11:12
  were female and not when they're now male, which you haven't been you know,
• 1:11:18
  you haven't been a man your whole life, So these things all the
• 1:11:24
  time. These are just some of the experiences that many trans men go through.
• 1:11:28
  Being a man can be challenging for anyone, but being trans ads combersome
• 1:11:31
  layers to being will wait a second, can we go through that again?
• 1:11:36
  Being a man can be challenging for anyone? Is I got that too?
• 1:11:43
  I was like, well, what about man? You should group, You
• 1:11:49
  should put that on your soundboard. A man can be challenging for anyone,
• 1:11:58
  you know what, I take it all back. I find being a man
• 1:12:00
  challenging as and as a part of the anyone group. Okay, but seriously,
• 1:12:09
  like this is the moment where I think he's actually expressing a truth.
• 1:12:13
  M hm, oh, yeah, you're right. Where the hell did that
• 1:12:16
  come from? Being a man could be challenging for anybody. Really, I
• 1:12:23
  thought you had you have your invisible, weightless knapsack. Yeah, you're luckily.
• 1:12:30
  This knapsack is invisible and weightless, so you can't measure it and you
• 1:12:34
  can't see it. But all the tools I need, but I never have
• 1:12:40
  to actually use them, so you won't ever see it. But I swear
• 1:12:45
  it's there. All right. God, this this this stuff, these people
• 1:12:53
  believe it is just so dumb it is and adscomer some layers to being a
• 1:13:00
  man. Additionally, if a transman does not transition in a strictly binary way,
• 1:13:04
  he may not access many aspects of male privilege. For instance, not
• 1:13:09
  every transman is able to have, or even wants to have gender affirming surgeries.
• 1:13:15
  So a penis is a privilege now of course, of course, well
• 1:13:20
  what does this as having a penis? Being born as a man? Literally?
• 1:13:26
  Transmitt guys literally transmant are taking over the last space left to men,
• 1:13:32
  which is being born in a man. I know, I don't. I
• 1:13:42
  really wouldn't have a problem with it, Like no, like really, if
• 1:13:45
  you identifies a man. That's fine, but this framing is absolutely disgusting.
• 1:13:50
  Men. They're privilege by having been born in a male body and nothing else
• 1:13:55
  because I wanted that. Yeah, that's that's well, not only is that
• 1:14:00
  one percent the way women think it seems in especially feminist women, but it's
• 1:14:04
  still a really disturbing framing. Yep, it doesn't make men privilege for God's
• 1:14:11
  sake. M But did you see what she just he just did there?
• 1:14:17
  What? Oh yeah I did? I did. Yeah. I think it's
• 1:14:23
  exactly what you said. He's they're taking over the last spacelift to men.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, the last space that men have, which is men's own space.
• 1:14:30
  And the funny thing is is that like SIS men, I mean, like
• 1:14:34
  I said before, they generally they're not as vocally concerned about trans men as
• 1:14:44
  SIS women are of trans women. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other thing
• 1:14:47
  that's not being mentioned. Yeah, you know what, what lirivilege do you
• 1:14:51
  have over trans women? Men will welcome you are like nope, men are
• 1:14:57
  like freaking flipping out and getting hugely caustic and dehumanizing because of trans men.
• 1:15:05
  Conservative people don't even care. But everybody's flipping out of her trans women.
• 1:15:13
  M okay, all right. Several states. If you don't get those surgeries,
• 1:15:20
  you can't change your legal gender marker. This can lead to all kinds
• 1:15:24
  of embarrassing and even dangerous problems every time someone checks your ID. You also
• 1:15:29
  don't get to see that increase in your paycheck. Oh god, oh god,
• 1:15:36
  dude, this is not believable. Like literally, you're like, oh,
• 1:15:42
  I identify as a man, and then the HR Department's like, oh,
• 1:15:45
  here's your twenty percent raise. Yeah. Suit, that was the thing
• 1:15:53
  they did in Velma, where um, you know, like she dressed up
• 1:15:57
  as a man and automatically got all these like, let you know, legs
• 1:16:00
  up in everything. Um, that's what this guy is. Fred is going
• 1:16:06
  to be killed by his parents expendability because he's not measuring up to what they
• 1:16:11
  want in a man. Yeah, it's what's really really is that is completely
• 1:16:15
  unself aware, Like the writer is completely unself aware. He's she's writing the
• 1:16:20
  fantasy that feminists have for what men experience, and also the reality of what
• 1:16:26
  men actually experience is that when they do not measure up, they're treated as
• 1:16:30
  expendable. Yep, yep, okay. And it's important to note that not
• 1:16:39
  everyone wants to change their legal gender. Some people may not feel like they
• 1:16:42
  identify with an f orgn M. For example, comedian and transman Ian Harvey,
• 1:16:46
  who easily passes as a sisman, says he does not want to change.
• 1:16:50
  Oh I'm just pausing it there for the banana. But this guy looks
• 1:16:56
  his legal gender because while he identifies as a well, actually, now that
• 1:16:59
  now that I know it's a trans man, I can see it man,
• 1:17:03
  he does not identify as male. He also fears what would happen if he
• 1:17:06
  ever found himself in jail. He does not want to end up in a
• 1:17:10
  men's Well, what do you really he doesn't want to end up in a
• 1:17:13
  men's prison. Oh yeah, I probably be safer, Like seriously, no,
• 1:17:16
  no, actually do wait wait, let's go through that. Why do
• 1:17:23
  you realize that the rate of rate an assault in women's prison is something like
• 1:17:30
  two times that of men's. Yep, and you're also a woman. You
• 1:17:36
  know you might get some problem. Actually, you'd probably get more problems in
• 1:17:41
  a woman's prison. Honestly, you would be marked. No, he would.
• 1:17:47
  But at the same time, it's like, you don't want to go
• 1:17:49
  to prison, You really don't want to go to a woman's prison because women
• 1:17:55
  once again that privilege. You know that women get a sixty percent discount.
• 1:17:59
  That means that you take the average male prison and they're sort of like the
• 1:18:02
  cream of the criminal soup of society. Well, you take that cream of
• 1:18:06
  the criminal soup of society and then you distill it again and you get the
• 1:18:11
  seething abyss a horror that is a woman's prison. You don't want to go
• 1:18:16
  there. No, I mean I didn't watch Orange is the New Black,
• 1:18:20
  but I didn't hear about any of that stuff. Yeah, Orange is the
• 1:18:26
  New Black is the sanitized very It might as well be like some kind of
• 1:18:31
  playboy I away doing the women's prison. Everybody's in bikini bottoms and we're doing
• 1:18:36
  I think it was it was a feminist show. I never watched it,
• 1:18:41
  but I think that ultimately is what it was. It was sort of like,
• 1:18:45
  well there, huh, were there like a ton of women being raped
• 1:18:48
  by table legs? No, No, I don't think there was. I
• 1:18:54
  don't watch it, but I didn't hear anything about that. It's just maybe
• 1:18:57
  it was like we're not discovering that they're actually lesbians, and you know,
• 1:19:00
  sexy time with other prison inmates, and uh, that's like the hardest part
• 1:19:05
  of it, you know, like it's there's no people getting raped with table
• 1:19:11
  legs, which I'm not laughing at. That's not funny at all. Okay,
• 1:19:18
  well, I know it's it's like darkly funny because it's like it's you
• 1:19:23
  just oppose it with what's actually people think. I was like, no,
• 1:19:27
  no, like these these are the worst or the worst, you know.
• 1:19:30
  I mean, there was this this whole hullabaloo about this this this trans woman
• 1:19:34
  who or this this person who identified as a woman who is a rapist of
• 1:19:39
  women, serial rapist I think of women in the UK. And I was
• 1:19:43
  like, oh, he's gonna go to the he's gonna go to the man
• 1:19:45
  do the I don't think he identifies as a woman anymore. Maybe he learned
• 1:19:48
  because he actually went to a woman's prison. Um, you know there the's
• 1:19:54
  gonna identify as a woman and he's gonna go to a woman's prison and he's
• 1:19:59
  a rapist. I'm like, yeah, there are also rapists and women's prisons,
• 1:20:03
  a lot of them exist, and um, and here's here's the thing.
• 1:20:06
  It's like, this seems like it's gonna if your problem. It solves
• 1:20:10
  itself because he's a rapist of women. He's going to a women's prison.
• 1:20:15
  Okay, and in the UK, Like when I said that the US female
• 1:20:21
  population, it's like, you take the male prison population, that's a cream
• 1:20:26
  of soup of criminality, cream of criminality soup, and then you concentrate that,
• 1:20:30
  you get the women's popsulation. You distill that like you distill it too.
• 1:20:36
  If you were distilling alcohol, you'd have like two hundred three percent proof
• 1:20:43
  that's a UK women's prison. Yeah, Like so fucking evil. I think
• 1:20:49
  that that dude. And the thing is that it's a it's a numbers game.
• 1:20:53
  I was talking about with the patrons about this. It's a numbers game.
• 1:20:56
  That man's gonna go into the prison. He's gonna be it's supposed tramp
• 1:21:00
  women, a rapist of women. He is going to be marked, yeah,
• 1:21:04
  by every woman in that prison. That man is going to be raped
• 1:21:12
  to the point where he's shooting pieces of his own liver. So I'm like,
• 1:21:15
  this is a problem that solves itself as far as I'm concerned. Send
• 1:21:18
  him to the prudent's prison, Yeah, but don't don't put him in PC.
• 1:21:28
  Let's protective custody. Let him be in the general population. He'll be
• 1:21:31
  a greasy smear within a few days. All right, all right, The
• 1:21:35
  f provides a sense of safety. It's important to remember that one's document itself
• 1:21:40
  is not necessarily the same as one's lived self in the very combination of those
• 1:21:45
  elements impacts how one access his privilege. For I want a gender where you
• 1:21:49
  just don't give a fuck about gender? Yeah, right, is that?
• 1:21:55
  I think I think there is a gender that does that. There's a gender
• 1:21:59
  for that. Yeah, But is it the gender where you're like, Okay,
• 1:22:01
  I was assigned female at birth. I just don't give a fuck,
• 1:22:05
  like whatever, that's what you perceived me of. I don't. I don't
• 1:22:09
  really want to. Well, you gotta make sure that you play a good,
• 1:22:15
  you know, interesting role in their head cannon. That's why they that's
• 1:22:20
  why they want to put you in a box. Okay, let's just furthermore,
• 1:22:27
  trans men typically do not experience the privileges that come from a lifetime of
• 1:22:30
  male socialization. Six. Men are taught from movies, what do you see,
• 1:22:34
  books, video games, and the men around us that they can be
• 1:22:38
  lowed and take up space. What are you fucking talking about See. So
• 1:22:45
  I think what this guy is doing is is building a you know, so
• 1:22:51
  slowly building the case that trans men do not have male privilege. And to
• 1:22:59
  do that they have to bring in all of this, you know, these
• 1:23:04
  talking points and postmodern bullshit, and literally he's just literally he's literally made men
• 1:23:15
  occupying their own bodies some kind of crime against morality by saying, oh,
• 1:23:19
  it's a privilege, it's a privilege to be born with a penis. Well,
• 1:23:25
  I mean, I guess in some ways you could argue that, But
• 1:23:28
  what he means when he uses the term privilege, now, I think I
• 1:23:30
  was discussing this, like, privilege is the marker for the people who are
• 1:23:34
  allowed to be disprivileged, well, the men who are allowed to be disprivileged
• 1:23:39
  to be discriminated against. So now he said that having a body is an
• 1:23:45
  unfair advantage that men have. You are literally taking away men right to have
• 1:23:51
  any space at all, including the space that God, the spaghetti monster and
• 1:23:57
  evolution gave them. And you have the fucking audacity to turn around and spew
• 1:24:05
  this self righteous, victim self victimhood crap. Men aren't taught to take up
• 1:24:15
  space, Okay, their space ends the moment it offends a woman. And
• 1:24:23
  that is in every game, every book, every movie, and every TV
• 1:24:27
  show. The villain is always the man who offends women, unless he's quirky
• 1:24:32
  and you've established him as sympathetic beforehand, like maybe House and the guy who's
• 1:24:38
  in US, Uh not like doctor House and um and the guy Jack Nicholson
• 1:24:46
  played I think of a woman. Yeah, what's the name of that movie?
• 1:24:50
  I know, the one you're talking about where he plays a writer.
• 1:24:53
  M Yeah, as good as it gets, that's what it is. As
• 1:24:56
  good as it gets. Yeah, yeah, all right, But for the
• 1:24:59
  most hurt. If you want to categorize a man as a villain who at
• 1:25:02
  the end of the movie will be taking no space because he'll be a corpse,
• 1:25:05
  you have him offend, harm or insult women. So men's space stops
• 1:25:14
  where it offends women. And believe me, I have watched the circle of
• 1:25:18
  women's offense expand faster than the dollar inflates. Like there's some serious inflation going
• 1:25:29
  on when it comes to women's offense and victimization. Ye, So don't give
• 1:25:36
  me this fucking shit. God, he knows nothing about being a man.
• 1:25:42
  I know more about being a man and I'm not even a man. Well,
• 1:25:46
  yeah, they're just operating under these stereotypes that they think are the norm.
• 1:25:50
  And then they claim to be against stereotyping and they claim to actually have
• 1:25:56
  questioned anything like, literally, you're acting like a woman. You have no
• 1:26:00
  expression that is masculine at all. Yep, Okay, I'm not saying you're
• 1:26:11
  I'm not saying I'm not going to say that you are a woman. I'm
• 1:26:15
  not going to call you a woman. I'm just gonna say you're acting like
• 1:26:17
  one. You are acting like one. Yeah, and that's fine if you
• 1:26:24
  are a woman, but you are not. Yep. I got another superhow
• 1:26:30
  five dollars by another anonymous person and they said, if we men didn't exist,
• 1:26:38
  who would they blame for everything they deem as patriarchy. If having a
• 1:26:42
  penis is a privilege, then they should get mutilated slash circumcised to feel the
• 1:26:47
  privilege of what it's like to live without part of your janitals. Spoiler you
• 1:26:51
  won't feel much after. Also a bit off topic, but anyone else noticed
• 1:26:56
  that they're calling Dylan an actress instead of actor. Remember the whole it's sexist
• 1:27:00
  to call female actresses actresses, So we should just call them actors. Yeah,
• 1:27:04
  that that's interesting point um that you know feminists and uh well, feminists
• 1:27:12
  were basically agitating to you know, that we should stop referring to jobs,
• 1:27:17
  um, job titles as gendered and because somehow it's demeaning to women to call
• 1:27:24
  them actresses instead of actors, because they think that the word actor has taken
• 1:27:29
  more seriously for some reason and turned out that like, you know, they
• 1:27:33
  got that done and they stopped doing that and now they want it back.
• 1:27:38
  Because yeah, because because trans women so okay, they are taught that their
• 1:27:48
  masculinity equal power and that they can express that power as aggressively as they like.
• 1:27:53
  Trans men usually up learning the opposite. What yeah, yeah, of
• 1:27:59
  course where and how they're taught not to hit a woman if you actually appear
• 1:28:06
  to be a man, go hit a woman in public, dude, if
• 1:28:11
  he hit me, hit them, or have her hit you. Yeah.
• 1:28:16
  If if men were like the way that feminists always describe men like, we'd
• 1:28:23
  all be like it would be there'd be very few men left. I just
• 1:28:27
  put it that way. If if if any um, I just can't like,
• 1:28:32
  where do these people come from? I swear to god they they're just
• 1:28:38
  taking a thrill and lying to people's faces. Yeah, that could be true.
• 1:28:42
  Men's violence is not allowed, especially expressed against women. Maybe against other
• 1:28:46
  men, but not expressed against women. Absolutely not acceptable, not acceptable to
• 1:28:55
  express their anger their violence against women are what the hell do you think?
• 1:28:59
  Oh? Oh god? All right? I had there was actually a woman
• 1:29:05
  who transitioned to a man who was honest about this. Not No, she
• 1:29:13
  doesn't transition. Actually, she's probably going to be more honest because she doesn't.
• 1:29:16
  She isn't losing the desire to be a man or to you know,
• 1:29:19
  she isn't losing um when she becomes a man. She never really desired to
• 1:29:25
  be a man. So she's not seeing the world through finally getting what she
• 1:29:29
  wants, right, Yeah, um, so she's probably she is probably a
• 1:29:32
  better better example of a woman being a man, all right, and a
• 1:29:40
  more honest example. But there was one trans man who when he was fully
• 1:29:46
  seen as a man, got angry and he had people a person, I
• 1:29:51
  think maybe one person, maybe several people come up to him and starts saying,
• 1:29:56
  you gotta you gotta be knocked it off, You gotta knock it off.
• 1:30:00
  Can't you can't behave dude? We are not allowed to get angry.
• 1:30:05
  That's why they have wish fulfillment fantasies. Hollywood allows them to get angry in
• 1:30:12
  them because when men get angry to get arrested, you forget that. Yeah,
• 1:30:20
  no, all right, we have to fight the messages society sent us
• 1:30:28
  about being small, quiet and invisible. We don't have access to that power
• 1:30:31
  inherently given to sis men. Yeah, so of course I was. I
• 1:30:45
  was a victim before I became privileged, but not but not really privileged.
• 1:30:50
  Like it's that's the whole case it's being built here is that I'm still basically
• 1:30:56
  a woman, so I want the respect that comes with that. But I
• 1:31:00
  want you to address me by my proper pronouns and treat me like a man
• 1:31:03
  in the good ways. I want all the good stuff, the good things,
• 1:31:11
  and being privilege is not a good thing to them, and sometimes it's
• 1:31:16
  not a good thing period. Like that's again, it's the marker for who
• 1:31:19
  you get to discriminate against, shut up, be violent towards, aggress against
• 1:31:24
  abuse, and render invisible. H Well, that's all it is at this
• 1:31:29
  point. It's just you. You just apply the label privileged and then they
• 1:31:32
  can't talk yep, and you can discribe openly discriminate against them. All right,
• 1:31:39
  let's it's a strong aggressive role. SI. Men react with violence.
• 1:31:43
  Our male privilege is entirely dependent on man. They're just they're just ready to
• 1:31:47
  start, They're just ready to throw down. They're just rack at any time.
• 1:31:54
  I was, I boxed my wife last night. Some some people have
• 1:32:00
  stupidity thrust upon them and some choose it is a lifestyle, and you have
• 1:32:04
  chosen stupidity. Yeah, where are men allowed to be violent in prison?
• 1:32:15
  Not even there? No God damn, Like what this is like? Just
• 1:32:19
  delusion after delusion after delusion. Yeah, it is, it is, It's
• 1:32:27
  all, it's all. But the thing is, it's I think that you
• 1:32:30
  have to build this giant, like goofy looking like you know, mouse Trap
• 1:32:36
  style. You remember the board of game mouse Trap which had all the moving
• 1:32:40
  parts. It was like one of those machines. And you have to build
• 1:32:45
  all that because you're starting from the premise that you know, men have all
• 1:32:49
  these bad qualities and have basically like harmed the world and they they've especially oppressed
• 1:32:56
  women. If you start from that premise, you have to build this machine
• 1:33:01
  to make it, to make the premise work, because that's what he's trying
• 1:33:04
  to do. Right, Yeah, so how we are read. But another
• 1:33:09
  frustrating difference between how trans men and sist men experience their genders is that some
• 1:33:14
  people will never view trans men as men, no matter how the rest of
• 1:33:16
  society reads us. Well, you know, I don't know if I think
• 1:33:23
  that's true. I do you mean, like the selective service? Yeah,
• 1:33:29
  well, first of all, you're going to benefit. But the other thing
• 1:33:32
  is is that, well, benefit for being trans, not for being a
• 1:33:38
  man. But oh I forgot, oh the society, Yeah, I forgot.
• 1:33:45
  I was gonna say, sorry, dropped that one. Jesse Gender spent
• 1:33:50
  a portion of her video on trans women and male privilege addressing the viewpoints of
• 1:33:55
  trans exclusionary radical feminists, or TERFs. They mostly discussed trans women, but
• 1:34:00
  they do make the occasional off handed comment about how trans men are actually just
• 1:34:02
  women who want access to male privilege. Oh see, so this is the
• 1:34:09
  reason why I I'm not involved. I count myself out of that debate between
• 1:34:16
  the turfs and fifth wave feminists and the intersectionals or fourth wave feminists. And
• 1:34:26
  because again, like both sides believe that men have privilege, so the premises
• 1:34:31
  are the same and they just built different machines. M well, this is
• 1:34:36
  really where the whole intersectionality starts to break down, doesn't it. Yeah,
• 1:34:41
  Like, as far as I can tell, it's like they have to,
• 1:34:44
  like for the the non trans exclusionary radical feminists, they're going to have to
• 1:34:48
  break down intersectionality. Yeah, they're going to have to accept trans women.
• 1:34:59
  Yeah. Well, and here's the thing, like I've always said in my
• 1:35:03
  mind, so that you know, people are trying to rank all of the
• 1:35:06
  layers of intersectionality, and I said, women are at the top no matter
• 1:35:12
  what. They always are they you know, they don't have to be classified
• 1:35:15
  in anything other way other than their women because we because our society will protect
• 1:35:20
  women first and foremost. So trans women will always be like below women on
• 1:35:27
  the hierarchy, even like even if you try really hard, right, Well,
• 1:35:31
  they're going to try, that's the thing, and that's what's going to
• 1:35:33
  end up I think exploding the hierarchy is Yeah, women have to be at
• 1:35:39
  top, but trans women, by the intersectional logic, are worse off than
• 1:35:47
  women than SIS women. So it's like they've they've introduced this incredible contradiction.
• 1:35:54
  Maybe they'll be able to manage it. Maybe the global Homo will will continue
• 1:35:58
  on trucking along. But I think that this might be the implosion point or
• 1:36:03
  at least I don't know, but you know, to sort of demonstrate what
• 1:36:10
  I was talking about. Um, you guys all know that Don Lemon,
• 1:36:15
  the host anchor at CNN, was fired and there there wasn't really so like
• 1:36:21
  they didn't even tell him, like, you know, until the day,
• 1:36:26
  so he didn't even know it was coming. And um, what there are
• 1:36:31
  some like people were speculating, but what it looks like happened is do you
• 1:36:36
  remember when I don't know if you saw it, I did. I think
• 1:36:41
  we we talked about on the news show where they were talking about this.
• 1:36:45
  I think it was Nicky Haley and Don Lemon made this comment about how nicky
• 1:36:50
  Hilly is you know, pass her prime, you know, and all that
• 1:36:55
  that. That's actually what I think got him fired because the women were making
• 1:37:00
  complaints and you know, it was it was going all over the office and
• 1:37:03
  then other women came forward and they made allegations that he did stuff that was
• 1:37:08
  inappropriate or whatever, and they responded to it by firing him. And what
• 1:37:14
  I what I thought about that was really interesting about that is he is a
• 1:37:17
  gay black man and his him being gay and him being black, is it
• 1:37:25
  doesn't give him an edge over women just women of whatever type. Um.
• 1:37:30
  In fact, I think that, Um, it just shows that you know,
• 1:37:38
  like women are always at the top of the of the intersectionality is meaningless.
• 1:37:43
  Yeah, like intersectionality they don't care about the issues facing black men.
• 1:37:47
  No, um, they don't care about the issues facing any minority men.
• 1:37:53
  It is literally just the appropriation of victimhood points to women. And when you
• 1:37:58
  combine that with people's natural instinct to protect and provide for women, that's how
• 1:38:03
  it always plays out. Like it doesn't matter that Yeah, like you're like
• 1:38:08
  you said, it doesn't matter he's gay, it doesn't matter he's black.
• 1:38:11
  He gets sacrificed to protect women. And ironically, all of the issues on
• 1:38:16
  the intersectional pipeline were because society wanted to protect a certain group of women from
• 1:38:27
  men. He wanted to protect women from poor men. They wanted to protect
• 1:38:31
  elite women from minoritymen. They wanted to protect women from gay men. Even
• 1:38:40
  though presumably gay men are a threat, they are a threat because they don't
• 1:38:43
  actually marry women. So they are part of the of the social contract.
• 1:38:48
  So all of these oppressions were actually directed at the men of a group because
• 1:38:57
  of their perceived threat to the women who were considered to be the important women
• 1:39:02
  women on talk and uh, and then we go around, because we are
• 1:39:09
  so obsessed with protecting women, we take all of those harms and reappend them
• 1:39:13
  to the very women that these men were subjugated to protect. And it's like,
• 1:39:17
  it's like this never, this is a snake eating its own tail.
• 1:39:21
  Ye, and it's just this the trans women. I don't know where it
• 1:39:26
  could possibly go after that. All right, well that's probably where the non
• 1:39:30
  binary neo pronounce stuff comes in. That's like, you know, it's the
• 1:39:34
  ultimate like state, it's the peak, it's the peak. What let's let's
• 1:39:44
  see this trans men um nuances his way out of the accusation. He's after
• 1:39:49
  a male privilege. Yeah, not only is this frustrating because they completely undermine
• 1:39:54
  our gender, but also excuse me, did I gain what? They completely
• 1:39:59
  undermine your g gender? Yeah? You mean your your male gender? Uh?
• 1:40:06
  Do you mean that they're the radical feminists or undermining your gender by saying
• 1:40:13
  you're they're not um? Are you your own gender, Like, are you
• 1:40:18
  a man or you're your own gender? Yeah? Okay, I'm now I'm
• 1:40:24
  deeply confused by this. Okay, all right, gain male Okay, yeah,
• 1:40:31
  because he can't he can't actually, he can't actually go against the ideology,
• 1:40:38
  right, So he asked to say that he absolutely got male privilege because
• 1:40:42
  he transitioned, Right, Yeah, I don't know what freaking male puts.
• 1:40:47
  How could you prove you're actually a man now if you don't have some of
• 1:40:50
  that that sweet sweet male privilege, that invisible knapsack that only she can see.
• 1:41:00
  Absolutely? But did I transition just because I wanted male privilege? Just
• 1:41:04
  so ridiculous. Okay, wait wait, wait, wait, so you did
• 1:41:10
  transition a little bit because you wanted privilege? Mmm? So they are right,
• 1:41:16
  well there she they're claiming that, um uh that they did get some
• 1:41:26
  privilege. But yeah, no, no, but she's but he's he's saying,
• 1:41:31
  uh, did I transition just to get male privilege? Yeah? Absolutely
• 1:41:35
  not. So the just is the thing, So you did you did transition
• 1:41:41
  in part to get male privilege? So they're right what you thought was male
• 1:41:45
  privilege? Oh my, okay, the gender I was assigned at birth?
• 1:41:53
  Did not align with who I am, and I wanted a body that felt
• 1:41:56
  like mine. But no matter what I do, ter see me as a
• 1:41:58
  woman. Meanwhile, no many questions of this man or men? What?
• 1:42:02
  Oh really you don't think wait, you don't think that there's there's judgment of
• 1:42:08
  a man's masculinity happening all the time by both men and women, but especially
• 1:42:13
  women. Yeah, you also will think ahead, Yeah yeah, like a
• 1:42:19
  real man thing. Yeah yeah, welcome to being a man, dude.
• 1:42:25
  Women are judging whether or not you have manhood. Yeah, congratulate. This
• 1:42:30
  is your first real thing that you have said that reflects a male experience.
• 1:42:34
  Women are judging you not a man. Welcome to being a man. You
• 1:42:45
  will find that any woman that you encounter, aside from a few, will
• 1:42:51
  judge you on whether or not you are a man now yep? Okay?
• 1:42:57
  And also I will point out that that trans exclusion or a radical feminists also
• 1:43:02
  thinks cis women are women. Okay, this is not a male privilege that
• 1:43:08
  you're trying to present ridiculous humidity. Oh yeah really And again, like both
• 1:43:15
  the turfs and the intersectionals hate men, So I don't really see the like
• 1:43:20
  I see what they're what he's trying to do. He's trying to say that
• 1:43:24
  the Turfs are giving male privilege to men by identifying them as as men,
• 1:43:29
  yeah, and not giving to them. So trans men and cists men have
• 1:43:35
  different relationships with male privilege. There is a lot of overlap. Sometimes I
• 1:43:41
  forget that I have male privilege. I haven't been afraid to take an app
• 1:43:44
  on the bus or to walk home alone at night in a year. Really,
• 1:43:47
  Yeah, well why were you afraid? Feels afraid? That means it
• 1:43:50
  must be justified somehow. I don't think you've acquired a body that significantly reduces
• 1:43:58
  your physical threat. Like look, look, look no, in fact,
• 1:44:04
  your threat level is now higher if you're perceived as a man and you're small.
• 1:44:11
  Yeah. Like, no, not your threat, like your his threat
• 1:44:14
  to others, but the potential of others threat to him is higher. M
• 1:44:18
  hm m hmm. All right, Okay. The further I get into my
• 1:44:30
  transition, the more I let my guard down, and I wonder about all
• 1:44:32
  the ways I'm actually really seelish that I don't even realize. Wait a second,
• 1:44:35
  he lets his guard down. Yeah, then you're you're not experiencing what
• 1:44:41
  it's like to be men because men, many men talk about how they have
• 1:44:45
  to keep their guard up and be aware of their surroundings. Oh god,
• 1:44:50
  kid is going to get the ever living shit kicked out of him in a
• 1:44:55
  muggy yeah, and he's no, we're gonna say this crap again. You've
• 1:45:03
  ever been a man in the workforce, and I'll never experience job hunting and
• 1:45:06
  career building as a woman. As someone who was entering the media industry,
• 1:45:11
  a field largely dominated by white men, I wonder how much easier orbility to
• 1:45:15
  get my foot in the door. And the media, Yeah right, the
• 1:45:18
  media that like wocifies everything. I think. I don't think it's gonna be
• 1:45:25
  I don't think it's gonna be easier. I think you're in for a huge
• 1:45:28
  shock. Yeah, if you transition, because you think you're going to get
• 1:45:32
  further ahead in the media under well, I mean, honestly, he probably
• 1:45:38
  will because he's a trans man, and he's still going to say he's a
• 1:45:44
  trans man. That actually improves his odds of getting a job. Yes,
• 1:45:48
  because they'll want that, you know that toke we don't have that token.
• 1:45:53
  Let's let's add this to the collection, you know, So all right,
• 1:46:00
  No, it's rare. Once in a blue moon, I do pass as
• 1:46:02
  a CIS straight man. And when I do SIS straight, guys tell me
• 1:46:05
  all kinds of nasty and objectifying things about women. And oh, sure they
• 1:46:10
  do. I'm pressing X the doubt. No no, no, no,
• 1:46:16
  that is not happening. Hi jojo nasty and objectifying things about women. Yeah,
• 1:46:23
  right. As soon as he walks in the room, the men scan
• 1:46:28
  him to make sure it's not it's not a trap, and then they when
• 1:46:31
  they determine because he says, I passed as a CIS man. So the
• 1:46:34
  moment they think, that's totally that's totally assists man, let's go up to
• 1:46:39
  him and tell him nasty things about women. Oh god, that totally happened,
• 1:46:46
  guys. And then and then the whole nightclub clapped, okay that I
• 1:46:54
  should wait wait wait just so he yeah, that's m nasty and objectifying things
• 1:47:00
  about women. Oh god, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:47:06
  no, don't stop stop. So I'm sorry. I I have something
• 1:47:10
  to say, I have something to say. Okay, I'm sorry. When
• 1:47:14
  he when he is Michael, good lord, this guy sounds like a cult,
• 1:47:24
  like a cult member. Yeah, lookjaculated. That kind of like,
• 1:47:30
  you know, the Church of Jesus Christ of latterday Saints look is but um,
• 1:47:34
  maybe it's irony. H I don't know. I don't know this.
• 1:47:42
  This boy looks like he's part of a cult and he's ejaculating bullshit from that
• 1:47:45
  cult. Okay, okay, straight man. And when I do sis,
• 1:47:53
  straight guys tell me all kinds of nasty and objectifying things about women. I
• 1:47:56
  know that I should interrupt and stand up for the women they're de facing,
• 1:47:59
  but often I say nothing. It's nicely normal for a second, even if
• 1:48:02
  what's normal is totally messed up. Um. So you so this person's transitions
• 1:48:14
  and now and then she's telling men what masculinity is and that which is privilege.
• 1:48:19
  He he don't, don't. Oh, I'm sorry he um, and
• 1:48:26
  then goes on to tell us what men should be doing, which is protecting
• 1:48:31
  women or prioritizing women. Will also staying. But here's the thing, this
• 1:48:38
  is the only time, Okay, So when the only time you feel normal,
• 1:48:42
  these men tell you ugly objectifying things about women, like that's the only
• 1:48:46
  time. Yeah, literally, Like men haven't taken you under your wing,
• 1:48:51
  their wing and gone bowling with you. They haven't invited you out to have
• 1:48:56
  a beer. No, the only fucking time you're seeing is a sit man.
• 1:49:00
  They are seen as a man. They tell you objectifying things about women.
• 1:49:06
  That's it. Do you think that that is the sum toll of what
• 1:49:13
  men do with each other? And they don't. You don't. You don't
• 1:49:17
  play like a call of duty or anything. You know, it's just like
• 1:49:25
  it's like idiocracy. I am, I am pushing X to doubt really hard
• 1:49:31
  here, big X to doubt. All right, But it doesn't have to
• 1:49:40
  be this way. It's important for all men trans ansists to fight the norms
• 1:49:44
  established by the patriarchy. Okay, so very very this is a good point
• 1:49:48
  too, because um, by patriarchy you mean men, right, Like when
• 1:49:55
  you say we need we need all men destroying themselves because they are the problem
• 1:50:02
  to protect women. What a freaking surprise. And you guys are the only
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  ones who ever invented the idea of protecting and providing for women. Good lord,
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  this is what controls our society. Huh, this is what controls our
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  society. This is it, This is the this is the eye of sugar
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  off yep, it is don't look away. Are different. We all have
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  some degree of access to this loud, powerful, at times dangerous thing called
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  privilege. It's imperative that we do our best to acknowledge this beast, rain
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  it in, and not use it to fight women, but to fight for
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  women. No one. All right, um, this is the one thing
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  that he's done that's masculine. See his power and want to protect women's The
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  only problem is that somehow he's he's once again dropped into the problem that men
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  have. Y'all, many of you think you're the only one who believes this,
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  especially if you're a feminist, which incidentally is one of the big things
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  with war. When you can convince a population of men that they're the only
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  ones who care about women, that is the makings of a genocide. Yeah,
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  you say that that group of men over there, they don't care about
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  their women. Let's go free, feel free to bomb them the glass.
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  Okay, that is that is the one of the biggest, biggest um preconditions
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  for war. Right, one chooses the knapsack of privilege that how you unpack
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  it is up to you. If they don't choose it, then it's not
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  Oh God, good word. So men have this invisible knapsack that they didn't
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  choose and yet are utterly responsible for Yep. Day man, all you have
• 1:52:11
  to do is just take off your invisible knapsack, throw it on the floor
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  and be like, I don't have it anymore. Okay, I choose not
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  to. And now can we talk about my issues as a man? Yeah?
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  No, no, no, no, that that's that's defying gender too
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  much. God damn it is. This is a creature trying to make his
• 1:52:36
  identity fit with a fucked up ideology that makes no sense. This is this
• 1:52:44
  is like ideology trying to reform the relationship between men and women, except it's
• 1:52:47
  like coming out like the creature and the fly, you know, yeah,
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  yeah, concerning the brendle fly right, the brend fly. Yeah, okay,
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  I do have a thank you? Oh good good yeah. Um,
• 1:53:08
  so thank you to missus Anna of Arc who not only gave us a super
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  child but also gave us m a some some support on the fundraiser, it's
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  twenty five dollars. So thank you, missus Anna of Ark, Thank you,
• 1:53:21
  thank you very much. That's really nice. Thank you. Um.
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  If you would like to help support us once again, that's Pete the Badger
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  dot com slash support it's very much appreciated to make sure that we can continue
• 1:53:33
  to talk about these things, because I'm pretty sure at this point we may
• 1:53:36
  be the only ones who are analyzing the trends stuff in this manner like recognizing
• 1:53:44
  that they are like this is just another expression of the same gender. Shit.
• 1:53:48
  Yeah, literally, the one thing that he did and all he was
• 1:53:53
  scrabbling to get rid of this perception of power. Then he embraces it at
• 1:53:57
  the end and says, man, man, man, I know you've never
• 1:54:00
  done this before, and you've never considered it. We are powerful beings,
• 1:54:05
  super powerful, ultimately powerful like we are. We are, we're the super
• 1:54:12
  sands, you know. And the women and they're just like bugs compared to
• 1:54:15
  us, they're they're tiny and insignificant. But we should use our magnificent,
• 1:54:18
  gigantic, phallic like power to protect the women. I know we've never thought
• 1:54:25
  about this, We've never thought this idea until I said it as a trans
• 1:54:30
  man. Well, I think we should do it, Jesus Christ. But
• 1:54:38
  what's a woman? Yeah, but what is a woman? Well, I
• 1:54:43
  don't know what a woman is, but I know I got to protect it.
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  God damn, Wow, I'm tired today. It's cracking me up man
• 1:55:00
  choking on the smoke. Yeah right, so that's basically the end of the
• 1:55:08
  video. Um, it's ultimately it is you know, trans men don't have
• 1:55:15
  as much privilege as sis men and therefore treat us basically like women, but
• 1:55:20
  we might be called men. And and also if we did, we should
• 1:55:26
  protect women with it. Yeah and again yeah, we we need to.
• 1:55:31
  Uh, it's it's you know, it always boils down to the same thing.
• 1:55:35
  You know, let's get together, let's chat it down, a patriarchy,
• 1:55:39
  let's be nice to each other, and then we'll have a perfect existence.
• 1:55:43
  So and you're haven't gotten on board. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 1:55:51
  it's almost like protecting women is a deep and profound instinct that they're exploiting.
• 1:55:57
  Yeah, almost almost. Um. The starch God gives us two ninety
• 1:56:06
  nine Australian and says, what do you think of patriarchy? Hurts men too?
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  I've never seen the star? Are you new here, starch guard?
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  Starch God? Sorry? Um, so yeah, that's what we're basically talking
• 1:56:20
  about. Essentially, men hurt men too. So you know you're hurting because
• 1:56:26
  of men and they're they're they're the patriarchy, which is a you know,
• 1:56:31
  apparently Illuminati style cabal of dudes that like pay women a little less per hour.
• 1:56:41
  So, um, you have to clarify what you what you mean by
• 1:56:45
  patriarchy hurts men too. Yes, we've heard it. We have heard it
• 1:56:48
  for I have heard it for twenty god damn hears twenty three, God damn
• 1:56:55
  ears. Yes, yeah, yes, I have heard of that, sir.
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  What would you like me to to address with that? Um? I
• 1:57:01
  think it's a way of blaming men again for the harms that they face.
• 1:57:06
  It's it's a way of re establishing gender roles. Men exist to serve and
• 1:57:12
  protide and protect for women and do not have vulnerabilities. Simple as that,
• 1:57:16
  that's all it is. It reframes it in terms of men's agency so that
• 1:57:21
  they can be ignored. Yep, all right, Uh that is it.
• 1:57:29
  I read all the superstricts and we finished the video, so I guess we
• 1:57:31
  can end here. Do you have any more? Thank yous? At I
• 1:57:34
  can double check, but I don't think so. Um. Uh, yes,
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