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MINI SCROLL: Catherine Paiz vs. Tana Mongeau, LukesReads responds to BookTok backlash + Hailey Bieber billionaire · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
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  Tomorrow, Fridays. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  OK, today's episode is almost like an update episode.
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  I have mostly just like updates on different stories that we've
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  been covering over the last couple of weeks, but they're big
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  updates. Reminder before we start,
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  that's like relevant to that for the miniseries that I will be
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  writing over the next couple of weeks.
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  The first way that I have for you guys today is Catherine Piaz
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  has addressed Tana mojo covering for Austin Mcbroom was cheating
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  on her on her call her daddy interview.
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  That sounds so convoluted but let me get into it.
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  So Catherine she went on call her daddy yesterday and she
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  formally addressed her split with Austin and the cheating
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  rumors basically for the first time in such a public formal way
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  ahead of her book release. These were some of the major
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  takeaways. Catherine got pregnant two
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  months after she started dating Austin.
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  She said she never saw an issue with putting her children online
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  and doesn't. She says they do have their own
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  bank accounts though that I guess they get paid into from
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  the content that they make, which I guess is like something.
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  She wasn't really Privy to their finances as Austin took care of
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  them and she didn't realize he wasn't paying their mortgage
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  until their house went into foreclosure.
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  I don't know if you guys remember, but that was a big
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  drama a few years ago with the Ace family.
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  She detailed a lot of signs that Austin had been cheating on her
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  and then she confirmed that of course he had been cheating on
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  her throughout their marriage. She found out for sure when she
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  was pregnant and it was with 20 women.
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  He's cheated on her with at least 20 women.
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  She also said that the video that he made a week or two ago
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  where he said, like, you know, Catherine, I thought she was OK
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  with all of this. That's a lie.
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  She was obviously not OK with cheating.
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  There was a lot more. I do recommend watching it if
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  you guys are interested in, you know, like YouTube information,
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  Internet culture, the Ace family in general.
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  They're such a big part of this kind of like very specific niche
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  online. So I recommend watching it.
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  OK, But here's where Tana comes in.
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  OK, so back in 2021, Tana tweeted that.
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  Awesome. Austin cheated on Catherine with
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  a quote random bitch and she left a lipstick in his car.
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  Then I was sitting with Jake as in Jake Paul in the car and he
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  gets a FaceTime. It's from Austin crying and
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  Catherine yelling. Is this Tana's lipstick?
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  Austin says it is brackets. It wasn't.
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  So people were like, what does this tweet mean?
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  So I think she tweeted this when Austin was in the middle of
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  getting accused of cheating on Catherine, like for the first
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  time. I think that is why she tweeted
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  this. Austin replied to that tweet at
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  the time again, 2021, saying Tana was lying for clout and
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  that it was Erica Costell's lipstick and that he was like
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  just driving people to, I think he said Jake's house and Erica
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  was in the car and she left her lipstick, something like that.
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  OK, so I had to find all of this because, you know, obviously
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  like the Internet from 2021 to now is so different.
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  Like it's so hard to find stuff. It's actually crazy.
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  We got, well, we did a whole episode on how like Internet
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  history and like Internet archives are absolutely dying.
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  And it's so true. Like when you try and Fact Check
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  something from 2021 where people have been deleting, you know,
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  their content and stuff, it's actually so hard to trace it all
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  back. Anyway so then Tanna she made a
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  follow up TikTok like it's further explaining the situation
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  at the time. One time Austin Mcbroom was
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  cheating on Catherine and the girl he was cheating on her with
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  left a lipstick in his car. And I'm sitting in the car with
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  Jake and we get a call from Catherine or Austin, whoever
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  answer it. And it's Austin bawling his eyes
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  out and Catherine absolutely screaming, holding this lipstick
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  inside of their car. And she's screaming and she's
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  like, it's the lipstick. Tana's Austin says the
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  lipstick's Tana's blah, blah blah.
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  Austin's bawling. My the right thing to do at the
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  time is save the kids. Save the kids.
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  So I lied to Catherine. I'm like, this is my lipstick.
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  It wasn't my lipstick. Catherine, I'm really sorry, but
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  we team Bryce out here on God. So on Call Her Daddy, Catherine
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  was asked if she believes that Tana was covering for Austin and
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  like what happened with that situation and here is what she
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  said. She covered for him, which I
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  believe that it's probably true. Definitely happened.
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  I think her publicly talking about that is hurtful.
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  Why didn't you call me, message me, tell oh hey girl, I was
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  there on that phone call. I just want to let you know you
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  know that wasn't true. So the public perception of Tana
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  in 2021 is very different to 2025.
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  And because of that, a lot of people who are her fans now or
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  just recently got, you know, more invested in her because
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  they feel like she's changed and she's having a bit of like a
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  renaissance and stuff. You know, a lot of people I
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  don't think knew about this tweet and this TikTok situation
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  because all of the comments around this are people being
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  like, what the hell? I had no idea.
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  This is going to make me unfollow Tana.
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  This is making me look at her differently, covering up
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  cheating, you know, kind of like taking the man's side in this
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  situation. We do have to remember that when
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  Tana was with Jake, and I assume that this is when they were,
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  like, together, right? Because she talked about him,
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  how she was with him when this happened.
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  You know, she was like a different person.
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  And she was team Jake forever. Like, she was obsessed with that
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  man. I do believe she was in love
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  with him. Yeah.
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  I think in that situation, she probably would have done and
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  said anything to impress Jake. That's my opinion on that.
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  It was definitely a shitty thing to do.
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  But I know a lot of her fans feel like she really has changed
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  and like she's just grown up right.
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  She she's a lot older now, a lot more mature in a different
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  place. So we would like to think at
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  least that she wouldn't do that. Now.
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  I do recommend listening to Catherine on Call Her Daddy.
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  Like I said, it's interesting for the niche in general.
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  It's a really big get for an Internet personality like
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  Catherine. And yeah, I'm interested to see
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  what happens with her book. Like when her book comes out,
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  I'm interested to hear some of the stuff she says.
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  I mean, I guess one of the major things I was interested in was
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  like her perception on family vlogging and filming her
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  children. She did a dress on call her
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  daddy and doesn't seem to be like too worried about.
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  But I'm also really interested to see how it sells and if it
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  does well. All right.
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  Well, Speaking of books we have, what is this like our 3rd or 4th
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  update on this Luke Bateman book talk book deal situation?
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  You guys, the backlash has absolutely exploded and he has
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  responded. So we knew this, you guys, we
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  knew it. OK.
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  We knew it like literally when I first reported on this, I said
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  this, so many of you guys said this too in the comments.
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  Like we're all wary of him. Something just felt a little bit
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  like too good to be true. He was giving too much of like,
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  oh, I'm just like this cutesy, like wholesome guy.
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  Like I'm just, you know, the salt of the earth, like hot
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  Aussie guy. And I just like love fantasy and
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  like, why can't I like fantasy and also be blue collar?
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  Like there was just something so off about him.
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  And then obviously with the book deal situation, I was kind of in
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  my hater era and but I wasn't sure if I was justified in that.
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  OK, I think it was justified. So let me get into it.
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  So many creators who are both in book talk and just not in book
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  talk, but just like, you know, do common trigger opinion or
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  whatever online have come out criticizing this whole situation
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  for all the reasons that we covered already, right.
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  So he's been in the space for like a month.
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  He didn't have a manuscript or any experience writing or being
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  an author. He obviously got this book deal
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  because he's like this hot white guy that used to play football
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  and was on The Bachelor and, you know, had all of these
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  privileges. And it's super, super unfair and
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  crazy when you think about how difficult it is to break into
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  publishing. Not only did he get one book
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  deal after all of that, but he got a two book deal.
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  OK so we all know this but two things have happened since we
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  last covered this, which I think was only on Tuesday 1st.
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  This Australian creator named Darcy who has nearly 100,000
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  followers. She claims that she knows Luke
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  in real life and she made a video where she accused him of
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  being emotionally abusive to her friend Ellie Rolfe.
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  How does an ex rugby player who has a history of being in my
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  opinion abusive, emotionally abusive, who has never written a
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  book in his fucking life now suddenly lands A2 book deal
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  writing fantasy novels? In my opinion he is the fakest
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  fuck I've ever met ever. He do not trust him.
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  So Luke and Ellie met on The Bachelor.
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  They dated for several months. They did like PR rounds
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  together. They were like a public couple
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  and then they split abruptly just weeks after moving in
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  together. So Darcy was pretty high level
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  in her video. In the comments people were
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  asking for her to elaborate and this is what she said.
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  TLDR Love bombed her for six months.
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  Then his mask came off and he weaponized all of her
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  insecurities and was coercively controlling with everything
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  including her money. Typical narc behavior.
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  You guys. I I know that this is hearsay.
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  I know these are just accusations on the Internet, but
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  we literally said this, be wary of this man.
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  We said this when he first started to blow up.
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  I was like, I don't know. I'm always wary of these men
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  that come into these predominantly women dominated
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  spaces and they seem like, you know, these wholesome soft guys.
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  And it always fucking flips. Like we always find out that
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  they've done something horrible in their past or something like
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  that. OK, so now the second thing is
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  that Luke has responded to the backlash.
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  He hasn't responded to Darcy's accusations specifically, but to
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  the general backlash about him getting the book deal.
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  And I think you guys are going to die of this response.
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  I can wholeheartedly understand like how angry and resentful
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  like these things would make people.
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  I obviously have advantages that other people don't.
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  How do I capitalize on those to help lift everyone up?
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  Because I feel like, you know, dragging, dragging everyone down
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  and dragging people down leaves everyone at the bottom, whereas
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  a rising tide lifts all ships. And if I can use my platform and
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  my voice and my privilege and position in society to help
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  uplift others. I said like that's, that is what
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  books are about. Like books are, there is no
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  barrier of entry to reading and writing.
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  Like if you can pick up a book or pick up a pen.
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  So I do think he deleted this because I can't find it on his
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  page anymore, but I am literally dead at him saying that reading
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  and writing have no barrier to entry.
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  Like, Sir, do you understand the concept of education access?
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  That's objectively not true. Like there's actually a lot of
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  barriers to entry here. That is such a sweeping
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  statement. And it's a crazy thing to say in
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  the year of 2025 when the conversation online on every
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  corner of the fucking Internet culture in general is talking
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  about how like, media literacy is down and nobody can read
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  anymore. Phonics are out the window.
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  Like that is a crazy statement to say because it is objectively
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  untrue. Millions and probably billions
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  of people in the world do not have access to the proper
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  education to teach them how to effectively read and write.
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  OK then he goes on to say that rising tides like raise all
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  ships or whatever. That saying is not for you,
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  Luke. Your ship has already risen.
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  You're surfing on the top of the wave before the tide even rose.
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  Okay, that's not a saying for you to fucking use.
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  You don't get to say as this like hot Australian dude who
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  first of all was a football player, which is like the most
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  like coveted, like macho like highly respected sports player
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  vibe in all of Australia. First you did that and then you
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  were on like the Bachelor, so national TV and then you joined
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  book talk and within a month you basically got one of something
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  that like is so highly coveted. Like nobody ever gets that a two
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  book deal, hundreds of thousands of followers and a two book
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  deal. Like that's insane.
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  You don't get to say that like what you're doing here by like
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  writing some fantasy novels by taking these opportunities that
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  that's like raising all ships. I'm not saying you shouldn't
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  take opportunities. Like I said last time, I don't
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  fault him for taking this opportunity.
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  But his defense of this was so misguided.
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  Like he absolutely missed like every single point.
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  If you're saying that you're taking these opportunities to
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  help other people, tell us how you're going to raise those
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  ships. Tell us how you're going to use
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  your book deal money and your Internet fame to raise the
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  ships. OK?
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  I fear I have fully turned on this man.
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  I'm not OK and we're not OK. Like I can't believe this
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  happened again. You guys, we fucking saw it.
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  Like we called it. Oh my God.
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  I said to Sean yesterday like I should be ACIA agent.
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  Every single time I get like a weird feeling about someone, I'm
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  always right. I'm always right.
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  And I know that's like actually my job, but like I'm always
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  right. The CIA needs to hire me.
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  I don't even know if they have that in Australia.
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  I actually don't think I could work for a government agency
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  here because I'm also Canadian. I don't know what the Canadian
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  equivalent of that is, but they need to hire me.
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  OK, a lighter story. Hailey Bieber has sold Rd.
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  Beauty for $1 billion or like it's a billion dollar deal.
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  So Rd. sold to elf Beauty, which I actually kind of love.
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  I don't want to find out that elf has like a some problematic
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  CEO or something, you guys, because I feel like elf beauty
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  is just one of those that's always been quite like
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  progressive in terms of they're always trying like different
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  things with their influencer marketing.
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  They're really in the weeds with like youth culture and they do
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  things really well. So yes, please don't burst my
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  bubble. But yes, they were sold to ELF
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  Beauty and this is the breakdown of the sale.
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  So everyone's saying like she's a billionaire now, like not
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  quite. OK.
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  So $600 million of this sale was in cash, $200 million of it was
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  an ELF shares. And then she'll get the next
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  $200 million if Rd. meets certain requirements or like
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  targets over the next three years.
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  However, based on how Rd. is structured, she does have two
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  other Co founders and then there's a firm that they were
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  partnered with. So SIM from girls that invest.
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  She made a video about this and she theorizes that Haley, based
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  on how much she probably actually owns of Rd. is likely
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  walking away with between 60 million to $90 million in cash
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  plus the stock options and the future earnings, obviously if
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  Rd. meets the targets. But either way, it's a big
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  payday for Haley and it's just a big like milestone for her.
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  You know, even if it ends up that the pay her itself, like
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  she's not becoming a billionaire, like she's not
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  getting a billion dollars, it's just like a huge moment for her.
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  Again, this comes off the back of the Vogue interview.
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  And that was so good for her PR and people are legit celebrating
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  this for her. Like they're so happy for her
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  that this happened. I saw someone on TikTok say that
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  while the Internet was making multi part hater series about
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  Haley and like constantly bullying her and bringing her
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  into all of this drama, she was busy minding her business having
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  a baby and working on a billion dollar deal.
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  And that is so true. Haley Bieber has one good for
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  her. I'm happy for her and I think
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  it's really cool. Anyways guys, that's it for mini
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