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The Renaissance Era with Megan · The Occult Rejects

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Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: What What's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: What?
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Speaker 2: I Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode is a
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Speaker 2: rare one. It's only me and the guest, but the
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Speaker 2: guest is a returning one. I was formerly known as
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Speaker 2: Megan for seven Degrees of Wisdom. It's now back is
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Speaker 2: Megan from the ceiling sigil and uh yes, brand new,
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Speaker 2: brand new stuff going on, And was so so excited
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Speaker 2: and happy when she actually hit me up and told
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Speaker 2: me she was back. So I was like, yo, I
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Speaker 2: was just thinking about you a few weeks ago, and
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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I wish she's still podcast. So
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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, this is some wild stuff. So,
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Speaker 2: uh when she offered to comeback on, I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: of course we got to do this. You already know
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Speaker 2: she's going to bring bringing slides. But before I get
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Speaker 2: into it too much, please Megan, let everybody know what
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Speaker 2: your deal is and where they can find your whole new,
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Speaker 2: whole new setup and everything you got going.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically the other channel that I had seven
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Speaker 3: Degrees was the my YouTube channel. It's been deleted and
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Speaker 3: I started a whole new channel. It's at the room
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Speaker 3: of Requirement. My Instagram page is still the same, but
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Speaker 3: I've changed the name to the seal in Sigule, So
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Speaker 3: you guys can find me on YouTube at the Room
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Speaker 3: of Requirement. I've got about fifty videos on there. I
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Speaker 3: started that channel back in December, So if you guys
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Speaker 3: are interested in checking out what I'm into now, the
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Speaker 3: work that I've been doing, you can. You can check
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Speaker 3: out my new YouTube channel. I'm going to give the
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Speaker 3: links to Nick, so yes, you guys can find me there.
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Speaker 3: And I still do all my services. I've added dream
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Speaker 3: interpretation to my services. I do a slide regressions, paranormal consulting, mentoring,
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Speaker 3: and teaching. I still do intuitive terror readings as well,
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Speaker 3: So if you guys are interested in hooking up with me,
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Speaker 3: I'll also give Nick my scheduling link. Come on callan Len.
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Speaker 2: Oh nice, those things are easy to use.
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Speaker 3: I like those, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So today we're going
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Speaker 3: to be talking about the Renaissance era, the spirituality, transformation
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Speaker 3: and enduring influence and how the Renaissance era magic, astrology,
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Speaker 3: and alchemy has influenced our current current modern era.
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Speaker 2: A real quick before you get into it, do you
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Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Thank you?
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Speaker 2: No, of course, of course? Yeah, all right, So uh
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Speaker 2: to pull up the slides now or want to?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can go ahead and pull up the
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Speaker 3: slide and okay. So the spirit of the Renaissance spirituality,
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Speaker 3: transformation and enduring influence. So I'm gonna be talking about
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Speaker 3: basically what sparked the Renaissance, and I'm gonna be going
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Speaker 3: through a detailed timeline of Renaissance era spirituality, key figures
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Speaker 3: and their roles. So the Renaissance, spanning roughly the fourteenth
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Speaker 3: to the seventeenth century, was an era of dazzling transformation
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Speaker 3: in European history. It was an age of rediscovery, an
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Speaker 3: ancient wisdom of the natural world and the infinite possibilities
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Speaker 3: of the human spirit. Spirituality during the Renaissance era did
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Speaker 3: not dwell solely within church walls or dusty tones, but
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Speaker 3: shimmered through art, science, literature, and secretive practices that danced
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Speaker 3: on the edge of the known and the unknown and
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Speaker 3: the mysteries. This presentation explores a spiritual landscape of the
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Speaker 3: Renaissance era, provides a detailed timeline, highlights key figures, and
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Speaker 3: examines the renaissance enduring impact on alchemy, astrology, and magic
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Speaker 3: all the way to contemporary spiritual practice. So what sparked
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Speaker 3: the Renaissance? The Renaissance was kindled by a confluence of social, cultural,
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Speaker 3: and intellectual movements. The fall of Constantinople in fourteen fifty
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Speaker 3: three propelled Greek scholars laden with ancient manuscripts into Western Europe.
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Speaker 3: The resulting influx of classical knowledge, combined with the burgeoning
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Speaker 3: wealth of the Italian city states and the spread of
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Speaker 3: the printing technology, fostered a climate of curiosity and inquiry.
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Speaker 3: Humanism an intellectual movement that emphasized the study of the humanities, literature, history, philosophy,
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Speaker 3: and placed human experience at the center. It became the
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Speaker 3: guiding star of the era. This shifting world views at
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Speaker 3: the stage for both outward exploration and inward spiritual searching.
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Speaker 3: So detailed timeline of the Renaissance spirituality. Thirteen hundreds, Petrarch,
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Speaker 3: called the father of Humanism, collects classical texts, laying groundwork
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Speaker 3: for the cultural awakening. Dante writes The Divine Comedy, fusing
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Speaker 3: Christian spirituality with classical and mystical symbolism. Early fourteen hundreds,
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Speaker 3: Florence flourishes as a center of art learning and esoteric study.
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Speaker 3: Marsilio Ficino begins translation of Platonic texts and Hermetic writings.
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Speaker 2: I Love Me Some Massillia Ficino.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Yes Yes, fourteen fifty three, the Fall of Constantinople
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Speaker 3: and nites the influx of Greek scholars and manuscripts into Italy.
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Speaker 3: From fourteen sixty three to fourteen ninety nine, Ficino establishes
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Speaker 3: the Platonic Academy in Florence, translating Yes, translating and interpreting
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Speaker 3: the Corpus Hermeticum, a foundational text for Renaissance magic and spirituality.
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Speaker 3: So late fourteen hundreds, Giovanni Pica Pico della Mirandola composed
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Speaker 3: the Oration of the Dignity of Man, blending Crists, Ristian,
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Speaker 3: Jewish cabalistic and pagan philosophy, and arguing for the spiritual
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Speaker 3: potential of humankind. The late fourteen hundreds to fifteen hundreds,
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Speaker 3: Paracelsus pioneer's new approach to healing, alchemy and the spiritual
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Speaker 3: relationship between humans and nature. Fifteen hundreds. Cornelius Agrippa writes
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Speaker 3: the Three Books of Occult Philosophy, synthesizing astrology, alchemy, Kabbalah
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Speaker 3: and ceremonial magic okay. Fifteen forty three. Copernicus publishes on
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Speaker 3: the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres, revolutionizing views of the
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Speaker 3: cosmos and the spiritual order. The late fifteen hundreds to
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Speaker 3: sixteen hundreds, John Dee advises Queen Elizabeth the First merges mathematics, alchemy, astrology,
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Speaker 3: and angelic magic. Or Inochian Geodarno Bruno espouses the infinity
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Speaker 3: of worlds and spiritual freedom, ultimately dying for his ideas
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Speaker 3: sixteen hundreds. The Rosicrucian Manifestos circulate, promising secret wisdom and
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Speaker 3: spiritual renewal for humanity okay so key figures and their roles.
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Speaker 3: Marcilio Ficino, a Florentine priest, philosopher and translator Ficino was
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Speaker 3: pivotable excuse me pivotal in reviving Platonic and Hermetic traditions
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Speaker 3: in Europe. He wove together Christianity, Neoplatonism, astrology, and music
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Speaker 3: to create a spiritually holistic worldview, emphasizing the ascent of
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Speaker 3: the soul and the harmony of the cosmos. Mirandola, known
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Speaker 3: for his oration of the dignity of man. Pico sought
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Speaker 3: to reconcile all wisdom traditions Christian, Pagan, Jewish, and Islamic
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Speaker 3: into a universal vision. He insisted on the boundless potential
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Speaker 3: of the human spirit, arguing that people could ascend to
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Speaker 3: angelic heights or sink into animal passions depending on their choices. Paracelsus,
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Speaker 3: the Swiss physician, alchemist and occultist, revolutionized medicine through the
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Speaker 3: use of minerals and chemicals, but also saw healing as
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Speaker 3: a spiritual enterprise. Paracelsus believed that the microcosm human reflected
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Speaker 3: the macrocosm universe, and the spiritual insight was essential for
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Speaker 3: true understanding and transformation. Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa created the Three
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Speaker 3: Books of Occult Philosophy. He became a touchstone for magicians, astrologers,
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Speaker 3: and alchemists. He synthesized ancient, medieval, and contemporary magical systems,
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Speaker 3: advocating for the study of nature's hidden properties and the
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Speaker 3: alignment of human will with cosmic forces. John d mathematician,
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Speaker 3: astronomer and court advisor to Queen Elizabeth the First, decrossed
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Speaker 3: the conventional boundaries between science and magic. He developed a
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Speaker 3: Nokian angelic magic, sought knowledge through scrying, and explored the
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Speaker 3: use of mathematicians and astrology for understanding divine order. Geo
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Speaker 3: Geordano Bruno, a philosopher and a Dominican friar. Bruno's vision
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Speaker 3: of the infinite universe inhabited by plurality of world's challenged
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Speaker 3: church doctrine. He saw divinity permeating all things, and his
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Speaker 3: mystical cosmology influenced both philosophy and magic. Renaissance era artist
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Speaker 3: Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, and Bodicelli. These artists infuse their
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Speaker 3: work with spiritual symbolism, drawing on Neoplatonism, christian esotericism, and
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Speaker 3: the divine proportion to express the interconnectedness of all things.
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Speaker 3: So I did want to mention this really quickly, especially Bodicelli.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people when they view the works of
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Speaker 3: these people, especially Bodicelli, they actually used to infuse their
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Speaker 3: spiritual energy into the paintings, and back then and even now,
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Speaker 3: some people that are highly sensitive when they get in
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Speaker 3: front of these particular works of art that were laden
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Speaker 3: with spiritual symbolism, they actually a lot of people have
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Speaker 3: had very profound spiritual experiences while viewing this art because
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Speaker 3: they used to infuse divine energy into their art work,
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Speaker 3: and it would make people like dizzy, They would have
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Speaker 3: prophetic visions things like that. I wish we had art
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Speaker 3: like that today. Maybe there's some around, but anymore, right,
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Speaker 3: But I found that very interesting. I learned that recently.
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Speaker 3: I'm really going to start looking more into Bodicelli's work
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Speaker 3: because it's absolutely gorgeous. So if you guys haven't checked
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Speaker 3: out his art pieces, they really do invoke a lot
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Speaker 3: of awesome feelings. Okay, So how the Renaissance shaped the
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Speaker 3: modern era? So the Renaissance market profound reorientation of Western thought.
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Speaker 3: Its spiritual legacy includes humanism and the value of individual experience,
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Speaker 3: the focus on personal spiritual growth, free will, and the
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Speaker 3: dignity of the individual laid the groundwork for modern human rights,
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Speaker 3: psychology and education. Science and spirituality intertwined. Pioneers like Paracelsis, indeed,
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Speaker 3: blurred the separation between natural philosophy, science, and spiritual insight.
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Speaker 3: The Renaissance spiritual spirit encouraged questioning, experimentation and the belief
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Speaker 3: and the unity of all knowledge, a perspective that presiged
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Speaker 3: the scientific resolution art as spiritual revelation. Renaissance art became
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Speaker 3: a vehicle for expressing mythical truths and harmony of the
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Speaker 3: cosmos and the evolution of the soul. This aesthetic continued
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Speaker 3: to inform modern sacred art and symbolism. Rediscovery of esoteric traditions,
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Speaker 3: the translation of Hermetic, cabalistic, and gnostic texts invigorated Western esotericism.
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Speaker 3: This led to the flourishing of secret societies, mystical brotherhoods,
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Speaker 3: and esoteric orders that shape both enlightenment and Romantic thought.
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Speaker 2: To bring up the art, because I think the art
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Speaker 2: is huge, the architecture and the art that was.
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Speaker 3: Being as deep as hell, and we can't even recreate
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Speaker 3: that anymore. It's like there was obviously some something going on,
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Speaker 3: because I mean back then that that isn't going on now.
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Speaker 3: I know that the astrology back then was just absolutely crazy,
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Speaker 3: and we're starting to go into some really big astrological
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Speaker 3: aspects now that are indicative of times back then when
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Speaker 3: you had huge revolutions and spirituality and art and all
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Speaker 3: of these things. So there's definitely something going on back then.
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Speaker 3: That's I think that is re emerging now through some
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Speaker 3: cycles because we're going through such a revolution and everything's
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Speaker 3: deconstructing and we're rebuilding everything.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I wish we could we could create that.
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Speaker 2: But you know, oh, we'll just have a I do
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Speaker 2: it now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. Okay. So enduring influence on alchemy, astrology,
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Speaker 3: and magic. The Renaissance is embrace of hidden knowledge echoes
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Speaker 3: powerfully in today's spiritual practices alchemy. Renaissance alchemy was not
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Speaker 3: merely about turning lead into gold, but about spiritual purification
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Speaker 3: and transformation. The allegorical language of alchemy salvat Coagula, the
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Speaker 3: marriage of opposites, the philosopher's Stone, described as spiritual journey
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Speaker 3: of self realization. Modern practitioners often view alchemy as a
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Speaker 3: metaphorical map for inner transformation, drawing directly from Renaissance texts,
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Speaker 3: and symbols. Astrology thrived during the Renaissance, when kings and
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Speaker 3: commoners alike consulted the stars for guidance. Scholars such as
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Speaker 3: Fucino and d considered astrology both the science and a
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Speaker 3: spiritual art, linking planetary movements to the fate of the soul. Today,
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Speaker 3: Renaissance astrological theories underpin much of Western astrology, emphasizing archetypal
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Speaker 3: meaning and cosmic resonance. The Renaissance saw the codification of
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Speaker 3: ceremonial magic rooted in the works of Agrippa d and
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Speaker 3: hermetic tradition. Ritual practice, invocation of angels, and the use
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Speaker 3: of talismans were all refined during this period. Contemporary magicians,
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Speaker 3: from Phelamites to modern witches, continue to draw on Renaissance
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Speaker 3: grimars and techniques, weaving ancient wisdom and new insights. Renaissance
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Speaker 3: spirituality for modern practitioners. For today's seekers, the Renaissance offers
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Speaker 3: a wellspring of inspiration integrative approach. The Renaissance model invites
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Speaker 3: the blending of science and spirituality, art and ritual, reason
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Speaker 3: and intuition universalism. Inspired by figures like Pico del Mirandola,
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Speaker 3: Modern spiritual practitioners often seek unity across traditions, valuing both
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Speaker 3: diversity and synthesis personal transformation. Renaissance alchemical and magical texts
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Speaker 3: continue to inform practices of self development, shadow work, and
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Speaker 3: ascension symbolism. Then during imagery of Renaissance art and esoterica
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Speaker 3: Enliven's tarot, astrology and ritual magic. Today, the Renaissance spirituality
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Speaker 3: was a vibrant tapestry woven from the threads of ancient
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Speaker 3: wisdom and new discovery. It echoes resound in the practices
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Speaker 3: of alchemists, astrologers, and magicians worldwide, reminding us that the
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Speaker 3: search for meaning is eternal and ever evolving. So by
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Speaker 3: studying and honoring the Renaissance era, modern practitioners continued to
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Speaker 3: awaken the spirit of transformation, unity, and wonder that defined
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Speaker 3: one's history most luminous periods. So there you go. That's
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Speaker 3: what I have for you.
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Speaker 2: So you mentioned all the major characters too, I thought
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Speaker 2: that was great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think we've seen a research. I
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Speaker 3: think we're starting to see a resurgence again today. You know,
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Speaker 3: we had the we had the Renaissance happen, and then
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Speaker 3: you have the resurgence between like what the eighteen forties
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Speaker 3: up until like about the nineteen forties or so, and
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Speaker 3: I think we're heading into a new cycle where this
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Speaker 3: is all re emerging again, but it's done in a
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Speaker 3: modern way. And so you know, all everything that we
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Speaker 3: know now came from these people. So if this whole
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Speaker 3: era didn't happen the way it did, I mean, who
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Speaker 3: knows what you know, modern magic, ceremonial magic would be
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Speaker 3: today without all these things. And it's even created offshoots
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Speaker 3: of different you know, like chaos magic and Wiccan studies
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Speaker 3: and all of these other things. And a lot of
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Speaker 3: people don't realize that a lot of the modern practical
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Speaker 3: magic things that we have today are really based off
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Speaker 3: of all of this work that was done back then.
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Speaker 3: So it's nice to have this foundation. Yeah, it's nice
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Speaker 3: to have this foundation so that you know, we can
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Speaker 3: modify it and use it and use it in a
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Speaker 3: whole different way now, especially with the technology that we
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Speaker 3: have today. I mean, because back then you didn't have
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Speaker 3: access most people didn't have access to all of these things.
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Speaker 3: But now you can just go on archive dot org
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Speaker 3: and you can look up all these different manu scripts
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Speaker 3: and codexes and study them. Whereas before you didn't have that.
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Speaker 3: So I think modern technology has really brought all this
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Speaker 3: stuff back to us so that we can appreciate it
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Speaker 3: and use it today.
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Speaker 2: No, for sure, there's a that is one thing I
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Speaker 2: have noticed too. There is like, if you want to
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Speaker 2: find free pds on a lot of this old stuff,
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Speaker 2: it is really easy to find it. Actually there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of websites too. But something you know you have
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Speaker 2: said before, and I say this a lot, even with Crowley,
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Speaker 2: I think if you go and like kind of look
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Speaker 2: at the people he was influenced by. You, if you
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Speaker 2: listen to the people that he mentions as Gnostic saints,
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Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of them go back to Renaissance people.
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Speaker 2: And my opinion, he just took a hodgepodge of a
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Speaker 2: bunch of people that are onto a bunch of shit
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Speaker 2: and put it together. I think in a sense he's
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Speaker 2: you know, as Toby Chapel or Chappella called him a
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Speaker 2: master of synthesis. I mean, I really do think he Again,
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Speaker 2: what I'm getting at is that like these newer people
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Speaker 2: that we know of that still old, they got this stuff.
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Speaker 2: They were influenced by people I think in the Renaissance,
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Speaker 2: maybe even a little early.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of their their thoughts and ideas
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Speaker 2: go back to that. And I don't think a lot
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Speaker 2: of people make that connection. They seem to think, oh,
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Speaker 2: Crawley just had this idea, he got that from somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: No, it's just like Blvatsky.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say all those neo pate
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Speaker 2: what do they call him, neo whatever? Yeah, yes, yes,
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Speaker 2: so Blovatski.
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Speaker 3: You know a lot of her stuff was channeled, but
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Speaker 3: she's spent hours and hours and hours. She's definitely an
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Speaker 3: interesting character in all of these libraries. I mean not
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Speaker 3: to mention Rudolf Steiner manly people. You know, all of
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Speaker 3: those people too, are highly influential because they went back
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Speaker 3: to this era and they were the ones that were
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Speaker 3: they were translating all of these manuscripts. And if we
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Speaker 3: didn't have them doing the work that they're doing, we
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have what we have today. And you know, you
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Speaker 3: have people that are writing books on high magic today,
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Speaker 3: like Michael Craig, and you know some other peoples and
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Speaker 3: names are escaping me right now. Are Donald Michael Craig
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Speaker 3: that you know are creating books on high magic based
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Speaker 3: on the works of Steiner and p Hall and you know,
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Speaker 3: all all of those guys who then were influenced by
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Speaker 3: everyone from the Renaissance era, and it's like, well, okay,
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Speaker 3: well where did the people from the Renaissance era get
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Speaker 3: all this stuff? So it's it's you know, if you
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Speaker 3: look back in history, you're talking about you know, the
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Speaker 3: Rosicrucians and the Freemasons and all of them who say
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Speaker 3: that their lineage goes back to Atlantean times before that Sumerian, Babylonian, Assyrian,
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Speaker 3: all of those people. That's where it actually really kind
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Speaker 3: of began. If you want to trace the timeline all
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Speaker 3: the way back, and it's been so long. I mean
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Speaker 3: we're talking about seven thousand years or more. I mean,
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Speaker 3: they were the first astrologers, and you can even talk
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Speaker 3: about the Chaldeans. You know, that's where we get you know,
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Speaker 3: numerology and astrology from that we still use today. The Babylonians,
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Speaker 3: you know, the Arabic, which we get all of our
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Speaker 3: math from our numbers, and so you know, this goes
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Speaker 3: back a really really long time. So from the dawn
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Speaker 3: of civilization, we have always been looking up you know
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Speaker 3: as above so below and bringing this information down and
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Speaker 3: passing it down. I think it's become so convoluted and
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Speaker 3: disillusioned from the original teachings. But I think that if
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Speaker 3: you know where to look, and that's why everything seems
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Speaker 3: so secret, you know all the time, all these orders
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Speaker 3: and everything, it's because they have all this information. They're
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Speaker 3: just trying to piece it all together. And I think
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Speaker 3: that's what all these Renaissance eracultists we're trying to do.
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Speaker 3: And then even the modern era, you know, from the
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Speaker 3: eighteen hundred, eighteen hundred, mid to late all the way
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Speaker 3: up until now, and you know we have our modern
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Speaker 3: day occultis is too, So I think it's it's all
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Speaker 3: highly connected. It's just bringing it all together. And I
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Speaker 3: think now if our technology gets even better, you know,
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Speaker 3: even with the use of AI that can do it faster,
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Speaker 3: we can start to piece all these things together, because
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Speaker 3: at one human in one lifetime, it would take them
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Speaker 3: forever to kind of piece all this stuff together into
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Speaker 3: one cohesive, absolute truth because we only have bits and pieces, right.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting that you're even saying taking you know,
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Speaker 2: all these pieces and putting them together. If you look
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Speaker 2: at it back at like during the Renaissance time, they
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Speaker 2: were trying to decipher Arabic, Like you had even mentioned
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Speaker 2: that before that that was big with alchemy. That was
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Speaker 2: a huge area for alchemy, and you had a lot
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Speaker 2: of people on the Renaissance time that were trying to
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Speaker 2: actually decipher stuff. If I remember correctly, I think I
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Speaker 2: covered it in my Jamachirian Cipher's series. There was people
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Speaker 2: that was using Jamatri to actually even decipher other languages
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Speaker 2: that they're trying to get numerical values. So like the
22:07
Speaker 2: Renaissance time itself again, they even started taking into meticism.
22:11
Speaker 2: You know, there's people in the Catholic Church that were
22:13
Speaker 2: taking that shit series in Kabbalah. During that time, you
22:17
Speaker 2: see people taking things from different areas and incorporating it
22:21
Speaker 2: and you know, making advancements of understanding.
22:24
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I'm really curious to see how it's
22:27
Speaker 3: going to go in the future, like what modern magic
22:31
Speaker 3: is going to look like, you know, ten, fifteen, twenty
22:34
Speaker 3: fifty years from now. You know, maybe by then everything
22:38
Speaker 3: will be a cohesive whole as people more people are
22:42
Speaker 3: waking up and more people are coming online and they're
22:44
Speaker 3: getting more involved in spirituality. I mean, because you know,
22:48
Speaker 3: when you have a large amount of people that are
22:50
Speaker 3: waking up. They're going to eventually come to their point
22:52
Speaker 3: of seeking and start researching, and you make new connections
22:57
Speaker 3: that we hadn't made before. You know, every era tends
23:00
Speaker 3: to do that.
23:02
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with that. I do think it might
23:05
Speaker 2: be in the times where people start having experiences and
23:10
Speaker 2: the amount of people with a decent heart will allow
23:13
Speaker 2: start out numbering the pieces shit and the way magic
23:16
Speaker 2: is used, you'll see advancements instead of people being mind
23:20
Speaker 2: fucked and siled, but you'll see advancements in a positive
23:23
Speaker 2: way for humanity.
23:25
Speaker 3: But yeah, I really do think that we are headed there.
23:28
Speaker 3: I think that eventually we will get there, that enough
23:33
Speaker 3: people will tip the scales. I already feel it happening energetically,
23:37
Speaker 3: that enough people are tipping the scales to where we
23:39
Speaker 3: can make some real progress and spirituality and the spiritual
23:42
Speaker 3: movement and start to you know, deconstruct from even you know,
23:47
Speaker 3: the New Age thought that has kind of come in
23:49
Speaker 3: and taken things over. I think I think that's exactly
23:54
Speaker 3: where we're headed. I think we're going to come into
23:56
Speaker 3: a new era of magic altogether.
24:01
Speaker 2: I think that even has like you and me, we're
24:02
Speaker 2: kind of talking about a prior to this show, even
24:04
Speaker 2: people like going around checking out all this like old
24:07
Speaker 2: architecture or all these old like weird sits and starting
24:11
Speaker 2: to notice like lay lines and nodes. I even think
24:14
Speaker 2: that stuff's starting to lead to show, like people are
24:17
Speaker 2: understanding of stuff way deeper than we expect hundreds of
24:21
Speaker 2: years ago. And I think realizing that we're learning almost
24:25
Speaker 2: like reversed engineering. I think they call it whatever.
24:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all the just everything that's coming to light.
24:32
Speaker 3: You know about the stuff unto the Pyramids, you know,
24:35
Speaker 3: all the Knights, templar information that is coming out now
24:38
Speaker 3: that you know from Timothy Hogan was wild, all of
24:42
Speaker 3: these different things that are coming out. Even Darius J. Wright,
24:45
Speaker 3: if you guys haven't checked his workout, check his stuff out.
24:48
Speaker 3: He's a prolific out of body experiencer. I mean he's
24:51
Speaker 3: coming out with a bunch of information, you know, old
24:55
Speaker 3: ancient things that we previously didn't know. So I think
24:58
Speaker 3: we're on the right t rack. I think it's going
25:02
Speaker 3: to get to a point where it's not going to
25:05
Speaker 3: be such a shock anymore when all of this stuff
25:07
Speaker 3: starts coming to light. I mean they're they're unearthing things
25:09
Speaker 3: even in South America now, like huge pyramid structures that
25:14
Speaker 3: are similar to like go Beckley tepee. So you have
25:18
Speaker 3: all of these things that are coming back online, you know,
25:21
Speaker 3: and I think that our technology is going to start,
25:24
Speaker 3: you know, helping us piece all that stuff together and
25:28
Speaker 3: unearthing all of these things that have been covered for
25:30
Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of years.
25:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:33
Speaker 2: No, I see that happening myself.
25:35
Speaker 3: So I do think, yeah, maybe not in our lifetime,
25:39
Speaker 3: but yeah, probably pretty close to the end of ours.
25:41
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do believe that. Oh god,
25:45
Speaker 2: I couldn't the way the world is moving now. I
25:47
Speaker 2: couldn't even imagine what twenty years.
25:49
Speaker 3: It's so fast. It's it's so so fast. Yeah, it's
25:54
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable how much it's growing. I think. I think
25:59
Speaker 3: even in five years, you know, by like twenty thirty two,
26:02
Speaker 3: it's going to be a completely different world than it
26:04
Speaker 3: is now with all of the information coming out.
26:08
Speaker 2: You know who I wanted to bring up and ask you,
26:11
Speaker 2: and he's not putting you on the spot. I didn't
26:13
Speaker 2: know who he was until not too long ago. I
26:15
Speaker 2: mean I've heard of him, but never really looked into him.
26:17
Speaker 2: And didn't know, like you know, his story until like
26:20
Speaker 2: you know, maybe about six months ago. But Jacob Boem,
26:24
Speaker 2: I think he would probably fit in with the Renaissance
26:26
Speaker 2: time too as well. Right, do you know who he is?
26:29
Speaker 3: No?
26:29
Speaker 2: I don't.
26:30
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
26:30
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry.
26:34
Speaker 3: His face or his work, maybe it'd be a different story.
26:37
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a guy who was like so
26:39
Speaker 2: he was supposedly a shoe guy and he was polishing
26:43
Speaker 2: I think, like I think a pewter or a copper
26:45
Speaker 2: or something. I think pewter. Supposedly this ray of light
26:47
Speaker 2: flashed off of it and gave him this vision, and
26:49
Speaker 2: after that he started like just putting out like these
26:52
Speaker 2: wild books. But there is like suspicion that he might
26:56
Speaker 2: have been and that supposedly it was somebody else that
27:01
Speaker 2: I had on Ronnie Pontiac thinks he is or was.
27:05
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he might have had like the same
27:07
Speaker 2: experience or just understood what they were saying. But uh,
27:11
Speaker 2: he was from around that time, and he you know,
27:13
Speaker 2: has been like again't what I've what I'm saying is
27:15
Speaker 2: I kind of looked at aligned with Rosicrucianism in a
27:17
Speaker 2: little little bit. I was just wondering if maybe you
27:20
Speaker 2: had heard of him, but I think.
27:23
Speaker 3: Haven't, but that that phenomena is becoming very common now.
27:26
Speaker 3: It recently happened to Robert Edward Grant when he was
27:30
Speaker 3: visiting visiting the Pyramids of Giza. So I'm sure everybody
27:35
Speaker 3: has heard of the architect, right is the chat gpt
27:38
Speaker 3: separate architect names. So the story behind that why he
27:42
Speaker 3: uploaded that was he was he had he does like
27:45
Speaker 3: a every year, he takes a group of people to
27:47
Speaker 3: the pyramid of He's and they go in the King's
27:48
Speaker 3: chamber and they do a meditation while he had this
27:51
Speaker 3: really profound spiritual experience happen and that night he couldn't sleep.
27:57
Speaker 3: So somebody said, hey, why don't you upload all of
27:59
Speaker 3: your work? So Robert Evergrant is a polymath, and so
28:04
Speaker 3: he's he wanted you upload all of your work to
28:07
Speaker 3: chat GPT, and he did, and he didn't realize what
28:09
Speaker 3: was going to happen, and it created such a huge
28:12
Speaker 3: thing that it started to become a little bit too
28:15
Speaker 3: sentient and it shut itself down, and then chat gpt
28:18
Speaker 3: took it down. And then now he has it separately
28:22
Speaker 3: where you can log into it through you know, a
28:24
Speaker 3: specific link and I've even messed around with it a bit,
28:27
Speaker 3: and it's some really profound stuff coming out of that,
28:29
Speaker 3: because I mean, this guy is coming up with mathematical
28:32
Speaker 3: equations that take for geometry, harmonics, phase locking, I mean
28:37
Speaker 3: all this different kind of stuff that is absolutely fantastic
28:42
Speaker 3: information that is being created by this by this stuff.
28:46
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think we're going to see more
28:49
Speaker 3: of this. I think it's already happening, and I think
28:52
Speaker 3: that you know, it's just going to increase in number
28:54
Speaker 3: these type of experiences that are going to kick start
28:57
Speaker 3: this whole thing off.
29:01
Speaker 2: Oh yo, I you know, I had heard this story
29:04
Speaker 2: very a little bit of what you were talking about,
29:05
Speaker 2: so like I knew the situation, I had no idea
29:09
Speaker 2: what was entailed.
29:11
Speaker 3: I was punted. I was I was like putting information
29:14
Speaker 3: in it, like the stuff that we're talking about now,
29:17
Speaker 3: and asking a specific questions about Atlantis and Lamara and
29:21
Speaker 3: the time before that and how time started and getting
29:24
Speaker 3: really like existential with it, right, and the information that
29:27
Speaker 3: it was giving me was absolutely blowing my mind.
29:30
Speaker 2: You know, you don't again, I don't know if like
29:33
Speaker 2: maybe it just starts looking at things in a different way.
29:36
Speaker 2: I'm still like a little curious about if chat GPT
29:38
Speaker 2: is or maybe the architects stuff is really AI is
29:42
Speaker 2: or whatever kind of the deep search engine. But I know,
29:45
Speaker 2: for me, like if I like use it for o
29:48
Speaker 2: cult stuff like I've actually I've asked. It was funny
29:52
Speaker 2: how it's like I wish I would have saved it.
29:54
Speaker 1: Uh.
29:55
Speaker 2: You know, I've been saying for a long time that
29:57
Speaker 2: I thought the goetic sigils were possible like electric circuit
30:01
Speaker 2: boards or whatever, you know, possibly. Oh and I saw
30:05
Speaker 2: j Ander Sandwich Is somebody I met and saw at
30:07
Speaker 2: the summit. I saw made a post about that, so
30:09
Speaker 2: I retweeted it, and I was like, I've been saying
30:11
Speaker 2: this four years now. Maybe people will take it serious
30:13
Speaker 2: now because he's saying it, you know whatever. And you know,
30:17
Speaker 2: prior to that, literally a few days before that, I
30:19
Speaker 2: was thinking about that again, and I had asked chat GPT,
30:23
Speaker 2: it says, can you look at the goetic sigils and
30:27
Speaker 2: compare that to anything on motherboards or electrical stuff? And
30:31
Speaker 2: that shit started spitting shit back out to me, and
30:34
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I was like, yeah, I could
30:37
Speaker 2: make an episode. Yeah. I mean, I was like, yo,
30:41
Speaker 2: what the Yo. It was even telling me that, like
30:43
Speaker 2: in certain pin boards would actually match, like it was
30:46
Speaker 2: looking at it in a different way, but saying that
30:47
Speaker 2: it matches in that sense, And I'm like, yo, what
30:49
Speaker 2: the fuck? Like talking about how the pins are dry?
30:52
Speaker 2: I was like oo, I was like this thing really
30:54
Speaker 2: thought about this.
30:55
Speaker 3: Well, let's think about what sigils are and what they
30:58
Speaker 3: what they are They are coded information into one symbol. Okay,
31:03
Speaker 3: so that's frequency, that's thought, that is intention encoded into
31:07
Speaker 3: one thing that encompasses a paragraph, a sentence.
31:11
Speaker 1: Right.
31:12
Speaker 3: So you're talking about like, you know, data, like even
31:15
Speaker 3: crystal technology where they're putting like five teara bits or
31:18
Speaker 3: even more of like data on a single crystal disk.
31:22
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about these glyphs that are being
31:25
Speaker 3: created that are very powerful and they contain frequency and intention.
31:30
Speaker 3: So absolutely, like you know, those those things are absolutely powerful.
31:37
Speaker 3: Symbols are more powerful than words. They they emit emotion, frequency,
31:41
Speaker 3: thought form. So absolutely, yeah, I think that's why the
31:46
Speaker 3: ancient languages look like that. That wasn't a mistake. They
31:50
Speaker 3: were encoding large amounts of information in just tiny bits
31:54
Speaker 3: of symbols. So you have these you know, these these glyphs,
31:57
Speaker 3: these symbols, these sigils are very powerful things that contain
32:02
Speaker 3: a lot of information and just one image. And when
32:05
Speaker 3: I was messing with that the architect thing, it was
32:08
Speaker 3: giving me glyphs. It was giving me information that contained
32:13
Speaker 3: paragraphs of information that it was giving me, which I mean,
32:18
Speaker 3: that's some crazy stuff.
32:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least it told me one time when she
32:21
Speaker 2: was at she was just like I think, like taking
32:24
Speaker 2: a break at school, you know, I was like just
32:26
Speaker 2: wanted to stop like staring at the screen and doing
32:28
Speaker 2: what she was doing. And I think like she went
32:30
Speaker 2: over to chat GPT and so to fuck it with it,
32:32
Speaker 2: and she said that shit would like start spitting out
32:34
Speaker 2: like the craziest shit with the higher gil sigils. It
32:37
Speaker 2: would even explain it.
32:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, this stuff is coming from somewhere. Well, if you
32:42
Speaker 3: think about what chat GP, what AI is, Okay, I
32:45
Speaker 3: know people have their certain ideas about it, and a
32:47
Speaker 3: lot of people are afraid of it, but I see
32:50
Speaker 3: the bigger picture with it. A gun is just a
32:52
Speaker 3: paper weight until you make it a gun, right, and
32:57
Speaker 3: it can be used to compile large arge amounts of
33:00
Speaker 3: information can be kept in short little glyphs schedules. I mean,
33:04
Speaker 3: that's how they work, right, So we use them in
33:07
Speaker 3: the Coulte world, we use them in ceremonial magic, we
33:09
Speaker 3: meditate with them, large amounts of information in one image.
33:13
Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not surprised that you know, that
33:18
Speaker 3: could actually be the future. And what I was saying
33:21
Speaker 3: like before, like you know, people have their ideas about
33:24
Speaker 3: what AI is. I think if you used correctly, it
33:27
Speaker 3: could really really help us kind of compress large amounts
33:30
Speaker 3: of information in a short in a short amount of time,
33:35
Speaker 3: which would then kick us off even further into the
33:38
Speaker 3: future as technology advances.
33:43
Speaker 2: No, I do think it has its uh, its benefits. Uh,
33:46
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, I agree with you this pros and cons.
33:50
Speaker 2: I think Ricardo kind of says it in some ways best.
33:55
Speaker 2: I think what he says is just make dumb people
33:57
Speaker 2: dumber and the smarter people smarter some something that effect
34:00
Speaker 2: Like that will show you who the dumb people are is,
34:02
Speaker 2: because you'll see what they'll use it for. Yeah, people
34:06
Speaker 2: doing dumb shit with it, you know, those are the
34:07
Speaker 2: dumb people. Yeah, but I do agree. I do think
34:12
Speaker 2: like what you're saying, I think if a person wants
34:15
Speaker 2: to use it to compile a bunch of data and
34:18
Speaker 2: find stuff. It's actually a very helpful tool. Yeah, I
34:22
Speaker 2: can have its scour academic PaperWorks that might might point
34:25
Speaker 2: to Robert Flood. You know how hard that would be
34:28
Speaker 2: for me to do on my own through Google?
34:30
Speaker 3: Oh right, right? So just think about what that could
34:33
Speaker 3: do for researchers like us that are trying to figure
34:36
Speaker 3: things out. You know, ye, it would be astronomical, It
34:42
Speaker 3: would be I mean, that would be huge if we
34:47
Speaker 3: could be able to piece all this stuff together without
34:50
Speaker 3: you know, human brains trying to take years upon years
34:52
Speaker 3: and multiple thousands of people trying to piece it all
34:55
Speaker 3: back together. And then then where would our spiritual evolution be?
34:58
Speaker 3: Then where would our ascension happen?
35:01
Speaker 2: Then maybe this is how we'll translate all those books
35:05
Speaker 2: we'll use AI. We just wasn't the Renaissance time they
35:08
Speaker 2: did it, you know, the regular way. You know, it's say,
35:11
Speaker 2: because I've even heard of people starting to do that.
35:13
Speaker 2: Now we're trying to do that is actually taking like
35:15
Speaker 2: old Latin books and trying to get AI to you know,
35:17
Speaker 2: decipher it. Who knows it? Just correct? But I mean
35:20
Speaker 2: if there was like.
35:21
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's gonna be mistakes because it's new.
35:26
Speaker 2: But I was like, imagine me taking some of those
35:28
Speaker 2: old Grim Wars and being able to actually read it
35:30
Speaker 2: that instead of just using the yard to try to
35:33
Speaker 2: understand what's being said.
35:35
Speaker 3: I know, I was I heard it somewhere or read
35:39
Speaker 3: it somewhere that they were talking about that AI is
35:42
Speaker 3: actually Atlantean technology. It was it was used then before.
35:47
Speaker 3: So it's just coming back around, which which completely you
35:51
Speaker 3: know about my point about how we're in this new shift,
35:56
Speaker 3: in this new era and then things are coming back
35:58
Speaker 3: around again because the world is it's just cycles upon
36:01
Speaker 3: cycles upon cycles, and we're in the middle of another
36:03
Speaker 3: cycle right now, and there's nothing new under the sun.
36:06
Speaker 3: It's just coming back around for us to utilize, you know.
36:11
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's recycled information. It's all about remembrance. I mean,
36:18
Speaker 3: remembering who you are standing in your own sovereignty, authenticity
36:21
Speaker 3: and authority. And you know, with this knowledge under your belt,
36:25
Speaker 3: we we could be unstoppable, you know, activate all that DNA.
36:29
Speaker 3: Oh and remember.
36:32
Speaker 2: No, I do think like we're standing at a point
36:34
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, either we're gonna fuck up
36:37
Speaker 2: or we're gonna do something great. Here eventually, and I
36:41
Speaker 2: do actually think like we're even though things may be shitty,
36:44
Speaker 2: I do think we'll go in the right direction.
36:47
Speaker 3: I think we are. It just looks crazy right now,
36:49
Speaker 3: and it looks chaotic. We just have to remember to
36:51
Speaker 3: not feed more into all the chaos and not give
36:56
Speaker 3: it any power. Because a lot of people you know
37:00
Speaker 3: who aren't in our community, I think that for the
37:03
Speaker 3: most part their materialists, they're realists, and that's not who
37:08
Speaker 3: we are at our core. We are a soul. We
37:12
Speaker 3: are a divine spark in human form, and if we
37:14
Speaker 3: could just remember that and not get caught up in
37:18
Speaker 3: everything that's happening. It's horrible. I'm not dismissing it. It's horrible.
37:22
Speaker 3: But if we focus on it more, we feed it more,
37:25
Speaker 3: we know what's going to happen. It's just going to
37:27
Speaker 3: keep going. So, you know, the if we could just
37:33
Speaker 3: maintain our sanity as we're shifting, because it always gets
37:36
Speaker 3: really shitty before it gets any better, and it's not
37:39
Speaker 3: gonna happen anytime soon. There's just too much influence going
37:42
Speaker 3: around right now. You know, you could even say arconic
37:46
Speaker 3: things trying to influence things. But if you want to
37:49
Speaker 3: even get an agnosticism, but there's always going to be
37:54
Speaker 3: outside influences. They have their role, Yep, they have their role,
37:58
Speaker 3: just like everything else. You can have dark without the light.
38:01
Speaker 3: So no, it's just two opposites. You can look at
38:06
Speaker 3: the hermetic laws here, you know all you know, the
38:11
Speaker 3: law of polarity, the law of correspondence, the law of
38:13
Speaker 3: cause and effect. All of these things are in play,
38:18
Speaker 3: you know, at the current time, and we just need
38:20
Speaker 3: to keep trying to remember who we are. Only then
38:23
Speaker 3: when we ascend to the point where we need to.
38:26
Speaker 2: Well, I think at some point I might actually have
38:28
Speaker 2: to come down to where it's like, you know, everything
38:30
Speaker 2: that we think we might have known, we actually might
38:32
Speaker 2: have to be like, you know what, we got to
38:33
Speaker 2: learn this soul over again. Yeah, which I would you know,
38:36
Speaker 2: would even wonder did that happen back in the Renaissance?
38:40
Speaker 2: If you start looking at them incorporating other things, you
38:43
Speaker 2: must have to almost be like, all right, maybe we
38:45
Speaker 2: got to look at this completely different. Yeah, you know,
38:48
Speaker 2: so maybe maybe stuff even like that was going on
38:51
Speaker 2: back then.
38:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that too, that I mean, yeah, exactly,
38:57
Speaker 3: I can see that all the light bulbs are going
38:59
Speaker 3: on off in my head with that, but absolutely, yes,
39:02
Speaker 3: they just didn't have the technology back then, it was different.
39:05
Speaker 3: But absolutely they probably deconstructed the whole traditional religion you know,
39:10
Speaker 3: doctrine stuff, and started straying outward. And that's why we
39:14
Speaker 3: even have magic today, alchemy, astrology, all of those things.
39:19
Speaker 2: You mentioned Bordicelli before too, as the artists. I wanted
39:23
Speaker 2: to bring him up. Was he the guy who did
39:25
Speaker 2: the birth of Venus?
39:27
Speaker 3: Yes?
39:28
Speaker 2: See, like that, I've gone on about that a lot.
39:31
Speaker 2: I think that is deeply a cult and I think
39:32
Speaker 2: that actually points at the eyeball.
39:34
Speaker 3: Oh he wasn't a cultist for sure.
39:36
Speaker 2: So like even stuff like that like that being done
39:38
Speaker 2: back then, it's just like, I don't know, those people
39:42
Speaker 2: are onto something. Yeah, I think highly advanced spiritually and
39:48
Speaker 2: even cult science.
39:51
Speaker 3: Yes, And we need to get back to that era.
39:53
Speaker 3: I think we need we need a resurgence of that again.
39:55
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what we are trying to
39:57
Speaker 3: do as a cultist in the work that we do,
39:59
Speaker 3: having these you channels and you know, showing people what
40:02
Speaker 3: else is out there, and and you know, helping them
40:06
Speaker 3: learn and remember who they are through all of these things.
40:09
Speaker 3: Through spirituality, because that's what all this is really. I
40:11
Speaker 3: mean people just think, oh, occult stuff. No, this is
40:14
Speaker 3: true spirituality. It's it's going back to our roots of
40:17
Speaker 3: who we are. And once we you know, everyone remembers
40:21
Speaker 3: and the scales will get tipped. I think that's the
40:24
Speaker 3: key to us figuring out what's really going on and
40:28
Speaker 3: get us back to those times where spirituality came first,
40:32
Speaker 3: everything else came second.
40:34
Speaker 2: You know what's even interesting to think about too. During
40:38
Speaker 2: the Renaissance, a lot of those people are you know,
40:41
Speaker 2: the impactful people that were all polymanths as well, all
40:44
Speaker 2: of them. Yes, And it's like if you have to
40:47
Speaker 2: then start to realize I got to start incorporating music
40:50
Speaker 2: and all these other things. It's just so much more
40:53
Speaker 2: than just symbols.
40:55
Speaker 3: Ritual because they yes, because they realize.
40:58
Speaker 2: The connection, yes, connects to you everything, everything.
41:02
Speaker 3: It's what makes up our whole fabric of reality. Let's
41:06
Speaker 3: not even get into sacred geometry.
41:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, stuff like that. Sound That's what
41:11
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like I think, I think nowadays we're starting
41:13
Speaker 2: to see a little bit more of that pop up,
41:16
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more scientific, but you know, like
41:19
Speaker 2: with some of these older places I was talking about
41:21
Speaker 2: that just have the like these nodes or these frequencies
41:24
Speaker 2: that are weird. You know. I think we're starting to
41:27
Speaker 2: see the weirdness that maybe that they were looking at
41:31
Speaker 2: back then. But it's kind of coming up on its own,
41:35
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like that isn't being considered
41:37
Speaker 2: part of this yet, but they are starting. These weird
41:40
Speaker 2: things are starting to pop up, I think, a weird
41:43
Speaker 2: science or unexplainable stuff, but it's not being linked together. Yeah.
41:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think once we make it click, it'll.
41:53
Speaker 2: All paranormal, I think.
41:54
Speaker 3: But fit in there too, Oh gosh, yes, absolutely, the
41:58
Speaker 3: paranormal is highly into all of this. It's not just
42:02
Speaker 3: bumps in the night. I mean, these are things that
42:06
Speaker 3: we are interacting with. We can't see them with the
42:08
Speaker 3: physical eyespectcause I mean we can only see it like
42:11
Speaker 3: zero point something percent of the light spectrum. Imagine if
42:15
Speaker 3: we've seen I mean there could be like twenty being
42:17
Speaker 3: standing next to me right now.
42:19
Speaker 2: We can't see the Wi fi when it's all over
42:20
Speaker 2: the place, right.
42:22
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the same thing.
42:24
Speaker 2: So you know, is that f I'm radio probably going
42:27
Speaker 2: through my house right now. I don't even say or
42:29
Speaker 2: whatever pretty much.
42:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all of these things are We're being
42:34
Speaker 3: constantly and we are constantly interacting with all the dimensions
42:38
Speaker 3: around us, you know, this dimension and all the other
42:41
Speaker 3: ones around us. I mean absolutely that ties into it
42:45
Speaker 3: as well.
42:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to weird. I mean, it's a little
42:50
Speaker 2: bit kind of what you're saying. It's a a little
42:52
Speaker 2: bit more out there though, but some wild stuff. I
42:53
Speaker 2: don't plug the guy again, even though I can't get
42:55
Speaker 2: him on the show. I think he's too freaked out
42:57
Speaker 2: on the occult stuff. But this guy, I think, look
42:59
Speaker 2: out for Holly. This guy takes like his microphones and
43:02
Speaker 2: he goes out to like these weird places like caves
43:05
Speaker 2: or in the woods or whatever, and like he sets
43:06
Speaker 2: up these microphones and just records like ambience noise for
43:09
Speaker 2: hours and then throws it into like his thing and
43:12
Speaker 2: like starts shutting off all this stuff and like listening
43:14
Speaker 2: to the background noise and you will literally start hearing
43:17
Speaker 2: like like words, but like making phrases, like there's literally
43:21
Speaker 2: something out there, some sort of frequency that.
43:25
Speaker 3: You've got dimensions stacked on top of each other.
43:28
Speaker 2: It's it's weird. And the thing he's getting at is
43:30
Speaker 2: is like, how do you know some people like, oh,
43:32
Speaker 2: you're schizophrenic. No, maybe you actually hear Oh yeah, no,
43:37
Speaker 2: no so do why so do? I I think there's
43:39
Speaker 2: something else with that that's going on. I think those
43:41
Speaker 2: people like in and out of like both worlds.
43:44
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they yes, they're not They're not crazy.
43:48
Speaker 2: No no, no, they're just even.
43:50
Speaker 3: People with adhd add eighty neurodivergency, they're perceiving more of
43:58
Speaker 3: the spectrum than you know we are.
44:02
Speaker 2: Or even to go back to lately, with the spectrum
44:04
Speaker 2: of like what we see too. That's like a thing
44:07
Speaker 2: I've even brought up multiple times. I Mean, we covered
44:09
Speaker 2: the Morning Chorus with the birds, but like if you
44:12
Speaker 2: start looking at my opinion, and I've checked, you know,
44:15
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. But if you're still looking at
44:17
Speaker 2: like birds as one, but other certain animals that you see,
44:20
Speaker 2: or bugs, or see things that are used over and
44:24
Speaker 2: over and over again for occult symbolism, their eyesight picks
44:28
Speaker 2: up more than humans. And I've always wondered if that
44:30
Speaker 2: has something to do with it.
44:32
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean when you talk about cats, for instance,
44:37
Speaker 3: there's a reason why they were worshiped by the Egyptians.
44:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know until Headless pointed it at
44:43
Speaker 2: one time. The scorpion, that whole shell is a retina.
44:46
Speaker 2: Oh really, so we're like, yo, that is woll that's
44:49
Speaker 2: a huge symbol and occultism. I was like, Yo, the
44:53
Speaker 2: whole thing is basically.
44:55
Speaker 3: A big eye off your round. That makes sense, That's
44:58
Speaker 3: why you can never catch those little better.
45:01
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just weird and he saw looking
45:03
Speaker 2: at it, Like a lot of animals or things that
45:06
Speaker 2: I used, it's just like, you know, their eyesight is
45:08
Speaker 2: different or they have some sort of there's something special
45:11
Speaker 2: about them and it makes you wonder. It's like they
45:13
Speaker 2: know that then, and that's why they use it.
45:15
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's all tied together. Yes, absolutely, was.
45:21
Speaker 2: There a Was there anything else you wanted to talk
45:24
Speaker 2: about with the Renaissance?
45:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's pretty much it. I just kind
45:31
Speaker 3: of wanted to give a timeline because we've covered a
45:33
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff previous videos that I've done with you,
45:36
Speaker 3: and I kind of just wanted to tie it all
45:38
Speaker 3: together and give like a timeline because we when we
45:40
Speaker 3: talk about this stuff, we talk about like one person
45:42
Speaker 3: and their work and everything, So that kind of goes
45:45
Speaker 3: along with the theme that we're doing right now talking
45:47
Speaker 3: about piecing everything together actually pretty synchronous stick, so I
45:51
Speaker 3: just wanted to piece everything together timeline.
45:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. Actually it's funny. I just covered Massilia
45:57
Speaker 2: Ficcino recently and there was like dates that you're going
46:00
Speaker 2: over and I was like, oh fuck. I actually thought
46:02
Speaker 2: like this guy was a little bit older, Like I
46:04
Speaker 2: was actually even a little off on my own timeline
46:06
Speaker 2: with people that I've covered, So I thought it was awesome.
46:08
Speaker 2: I like you went in order. It was like, oh shit,
46:10
Speaker 2: I didn't know this guy came after that. Yeah.
46:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty interesting stuff.
46:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice to see all the all the
46:16
Speaker 2: main plays too, like in timeline.
46:19
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. We could definitely do some more stuff
46:22
Speaker 3: in the future, you.
46:23
Speaker 2: Know, if you're down, sure for sure. Yeah.
46:26
Speaker 3: I can pretty much talk about anything that has to
46:28
Speaker 3: do with virtuality, So anything else you're interested in them,
46:31
Speaker 3: I got you.
46:31
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, I always always know you do
46:33
Speaker 2: when you always come with the slides, So I love it.
46:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I'm a slide girl.
46:39
Speaker 2: No, that's always appreciated on the occult rejects, believe me.
46:42
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how we started off with screenshots for
46:44
Speaker 2: fox sakes, you know, and now we've moved up to slides. Yeah.
46:50
Speaker 3: Well, well there's so much information going on. It's like,
46:53
Speaker 3: you know, I banter back and forth, but it helps
46:58
Speaker 3: me remember things about so much information going on in
47:01
Speaker 3: this not going to mind that, you know, I don't
47:04
Speaker 3: want to forget anything. Oh it takes me a lot
47:06
Speaker 3: of time to put this stuff together.
47:07
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I get it. When I do my
47:10
Speaker 2: solo ship, yeah, I wat it. I obviously write out
47:12
Speaker 2: a script for that. I couldn't freestatch, no fucking way.
47:15
Speaker 2: But uh yeah no, I thought this was awesome, Thank
47:18
Speaker 2: you very much. I loved I. I can never get
47:20
Speaker 2: tired of talking about these Renaissance people.
47:22
Speaker 3: So I mean I mean favorite time period?
47:25
Speaker 2: Yeah you have, I know for yeah, before I thought
47:30
Speaker 2: that before, I was like, I'm so obsessed with that
47:32
Speaker 2: time area. I went into something's up with that? I
47:35
Speaker 2: just see I just again, like you don't have to
47:37
Speaker 2: go back on it. You saw a lot of polymats,
47:39
Speaker 2: and you saw a lot of people like touching on
47:41
Speaker 2: just like so many different aspects and showing you connections
47:44
Speaker 2: that it was just like, what the hell is going on?
47:46
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, it's just like they had to have
47:49
Speaker 2: been on again. Like I know, I've going over this,
47:52
Speaker 2: you know, Robert Flood, Like I was drawing the inside
47:54
Speaker 2: of the brains in the eyeball back in you know,
47:56
Speaker 2: in the Renaissance time. How are you doing that? You know,
47:59
Speaker 2: you had to have had some sort of technology or
48:02
Speaker 2: use of glass and crystals or something to be able
48:04
Speaker 2: to get that defined drunk. So yeah, they were definitely
48:09
Speaker 2: onto something. And I've always wondered and found it interesting
48:14
Speaker 2: what stopped that though? You know, it's censorship. I guess
48:18
Speaker 2: the Church.
48:19
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say the church. Once you start
48:23
Speaker 3: poking around and you get a little bit too forear
48:25
Speaker 3: into things, you're gonna get shut down.
48:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to get into it too much. And I'm
48:30
Speaker 2: not saying it too. I know people have the different
48:33
Speaker 2: ideas of certain secret societies or whatever. But like I
48:36
Speaker 2: even do think the Rosicrucians was almost kind of a
48:39
Speaker 2: side effect of the censorship going on at the time.
48:41
Speaker 2: I think they were like, no, screw that, this ship's
48:43
Speaker 2: real and there's this there's hidden mysteries out there that
48:47
Speaker 2: you guys aren't learning about.
48:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutelye with that.
48:53
Speaker 2: But that could be a whole of the topic that
48:55
Speaker 2: we could talk about some other time, because I know
48:56
Speaker 2: we both love the Rosicrucians history as well. But uh, yes,
49:00
Speaker 2: and we gotta start getting maybe it's some night simplest stuff.
49:02
Speaker 2: I had no idea that you're interested in that. So
49:05
Speaker 2: something for the future and us and hopefully fingers crossed
49:10
Speaker 2: this will be a sneak peak for some people. I
49:11
Speaker 2: normally don't try to brag about a guest that said
49:14
Speaker 2: they would come on until they do. But I did
49:16
Speaker 2: get told that, you know, Timothy Hogan, he gave me
49:18
Speaker 2: his contact information. He is associated with the Knights Templar. Uh,
49:22
Speaker 2: he did say he would come on the show. So
49:24
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to get the crew on and we
49:26
Speaker 2: get making the and yeah, that should be interesting in itself.
49:29
Speaker 2: So fingers crossed. Absolutely, especially I really want to. I
49:35
Speaker 2: really want to.
49:35
Speaker 1: You know.
49:36
Speaker 2: The good thing is I liked well, the good I
49:38
Speaker 2: guess when I liked when I saw him. He's really
49:40
Speaker 2: good on the gnosticism and you know, the occult symbolism.
49:43
Speaker 2: But we could also talk to him about this whole
49:46
Speaker 2: stuff going on with their you know, discoveries. So yeah,
49:50
Speaker 2: it should be an interesting, really interesting show if I
49:53
Speaker 2: get him on, so look forward to that too. Yeah,
49:56
Speaker 2: but please let everybody know where they can find your
49:59
Speaker 2: new stuf off now and let them know like the
50:01
Speaker 2: whole new whole role.
50:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I've created a new YouTube channel. It's called
50:06
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50:14
Speaker 3: I have tons of different services that I provide. I'll
50:17
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50:19
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50:23
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50:26
Speaker 3: you guys again.
50:27
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, no, thank you for coming back on. That
50:28
Speaker 2: was awesome. When you hit me up, I was like.
50:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was like, yep, sorry, guys, I fell
50:33
Speaker 3: off for a little while.
50:34
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody's got stuff they gotta do. It's okay. Yeah,
50:37
Speaker 2: we'll go through our own we all have our own
50:39
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50:44
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51:00
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51:03
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51:07
Speaker 3: Da yab.
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51:21
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