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Full Show Podcast: 10 December 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 2: That'd be hey, good morning and thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Coming up over the next hour. The Aussie war on
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Speaker 2: social media starts today, so we'll work. We'll have that
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Speaker 2: story for you in five The Supreme Courts ruled the
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Speaker 2: parents caring for their severely disabled adult children will now
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Speaker 2: be recognized as homeworkers. Now what does that actually mean
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Speaker 2: for families? What's it going to cost the nation in
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Speaker 2: terms of disability support? We'll have that story for you
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Speaker 2: in ten minutes time. And the government's RMA reformers now
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Speaker 2: out for consultation, so what was really in it? Will
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Speaker 2: have that story for you just before sex Gavin Gray
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Speaker 2: from the UK Correspondence from right around New Zealand, and
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Speaker 2: you can have your say by sending me a text.
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Speaker 2: Small charge does apply. The number is ninety two to
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Speaker 2: ninety two. The time is seven after five.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the tenth of December, and Australia's social media
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Speaker 2: ban for the under sixteens takes effect from today. This
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Speaker 2: is a world first, we're following it because it may
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Speaker 2: happen here too, And kids across the ditch, well, they've
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Speaker 2: got mixed reactions.
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Speaker 3: They see social media as a place kind of like
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Speaker 3: assessful of the Internet, where all kinds of debauchery happens,
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Speaker 3: which is true, but that could be bettered with like
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Speaker 3: regulation over complete standing.
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Speaker 4: It will be good for people to notice life outside
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Speaker 4: of social media.
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Speaker 5: Like everything on social media isn't real.
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Speaker 6: Kids are going to find a way to get around it.
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Speaker 2: So more on that in a couple of minutes time. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: a new report on a top British spy inside the
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Speaker 2: II rais is he committed the worst possible crimes torture
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Speaker 2: and murder, and they say he should finally be named
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Speaker 2: as Freddy Scupatichi has never been formally named as Steak
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Speaker 2: Knife and is not named in the report today as
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Speaker 2: the government haven't allowed it, but it's widely known it's him,
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Speaker 2: and the families of his victims now want formal recognition
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Speaker 2: and accountability from the UK government.
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Speaker 7: The whole point of Canova from the start was you
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Speaker 7: we'll get the truth. How can you say we're getting
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Speaker 7: anty truth if that key detail is missing?
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Speaker 8: There's all, there's always other stuff that's missing because of
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Speaker 8: natal security, which you have to sort of accept a
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Speaker 8: certain degree, but that's a basic basic thing. You can't
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Speaker 8: investigate the agent or the stake may spend all that
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Speaker 8: money and they're not finding out who he is.
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Speaker 2: We'll to talk about this with Gavin Gray. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about the troubles. The troubles. Hey, and finally Trump and
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Speaker 2: mister Trump has had another swing at Europe. This is
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Speaker 2: an interview in Politico. He says decaying, that's a quote,
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Speaker 2: decaying European countries failed to control migration or take decisive
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Speaker 2: action to end Ukraine's war with Russia.
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Speaker 9: They're not doing a good job. Europe is not doing
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Speaker 9: a good job. In many ways. They're not doing a
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Speaker 9: good job. They talk too much and they're not producing.
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Speaker 9: We're talking about Ukraine. They but they don't produce.
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Speaker 2: And so to you, Donald's nine after five.
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Speaker 2: So that interview with Politico, they released the transcript and
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Speaker 2: you get the recording as well, so you can have
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Speaker 2: a listen to it. And it's fair to say that
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Speaker 2: everyone's saying it was rambling, and everyone's saying it sometimes incoherent,
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Speaker 2: and that it was halting, which is a bit of
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Speaker 2: a worry because he's not getting any younger. They tried
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Speaker 2: to trip him up. The US president struggled to name
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Speaker 2: any other Ukrainian cities except for Kiev. He misrepresented elements
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Speaker 2: of what's been happening in the conflict, and of course
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Speaker 2: he loves those far right stories about European immigration that
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Speaker 2: echoed the great replacement conspiracy theory. But whatever, he's the
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Speaker 2: present he can say this thing, and most chillingly for Ukraine,
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Speaker 2: he said that Russia has the upper hand and he
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Speaker 2: says that size should win, And of course his administration
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Speaker 2: has also said the state should no longer guarantee Europe's security.
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Speaker 2: So really you have to say that things are getting
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Speaker 2: a bit dodgy in Europe and not good for the Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: So look, I've heard of commenting on the Malori parties woes,
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Speaker 2: because who really needs an old guy on news talks.
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Speaker 2: They'd be telling them where they're going wrong. But you know,
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Speaker 2: they keep on triggering me to be fair, And what
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Speaker 2: triggered me yesterday was the co leaders coming down from
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Speaker 2: the cloud Cuckoo Lamb where they live and saying support
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Speaker 2: for the party is growing despite this week's pole which
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Speaker 2: shows that their support is in fact imploding. They say,
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Speaker 2: heaps of people turned out to their AGM and that's
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Speaker 2: the proof that support for our party is growing. But
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Speaker 2: I wonder whether they can't see that the people are
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Speaker 2: turning up. It's like an intervention, isn't it. Wanting to
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Speaker 2: have a word and have the chance to corrow the
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Speaker 2: party back to some sort of health. The party is
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Speaker 2: fundamentally flawed, in my opinion. A court has pointed out
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Speaker 2: they can't even run their own governance rules correctly rules
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Speaker 2: they wrote themselves. If you can't govern your party, how
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Speaker 2: on earth could you govern a country. There has been
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Speaker 2: no governance by the Maori Party for Mali at this stage.
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Speaker 2: Their legacy will be a twenty one year old MP
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Speaker 2: ripped up a piece of paper in Parliament while it
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Speaker 2: mates to Dahaka. That's a stunt, that's not legacy. And
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Speaker 2: then this John Tammahery. I have to be careful around
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Speaker 2: John because he doesn't like being talked about. But he
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Speaker 2: loves being talked about. He is the party president. He's
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Speaker 2: been front and center. He shouldn't be named the National
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Speaker 2: Party president or the Labor Parties or the Greens or Acts.
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Speaker 2: Mostly these presidents are behind the scene trying to hold
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Speaker 2: the thing together. But mister Tama Harry has been in
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Speaker 2: front of the media, taking sides and helping to rip
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Speaker 2: it apart. And then there was his appearance on Telly
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Speaker 2: the other day and did you see the sunglasses, The
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Speaker 2: most preposterous sunglasses I've ever seen, look like he should
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Speaker 2: be starring in the Boogie Nights movie. And that's when
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Speaker 2: it struck me that the president John wants to be
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Speaker 2: an MP, and he wants to be the star. He's
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Speaker 2: not the back room guy. And the guys who are
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Speaker 2: the MPs, they don't want to be MPs. They just
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Speaker 2: want to be protesters. And at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: nobody wants to do the may It's a case study
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Speaker 2: in organizational dysfunction. And I just think that MARII deserved better.
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Speaker 2: But I can't vote for them. And it's twelve after five.
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Speaker 1: News Talk said, be all right.
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Speaker 2: The social media ban in Australia We're watching this closely
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Speaker 2: because we think that we could do the same thing.
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Speaker 10: What is in it?
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Speaker 2: Will it work? More on that mixt.
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Speaker 2: Saidb It's five point fifteen has happened. Hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 2: of under sixteen's over in Australia will be kicked off
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Speaker 2: their social media accounts from today.
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Speaker 11: If you're under sixteen, you're no longer allowed to have
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Speaker 11: a social media account. Make the most of the school
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Speaker 11: holidays coming up, rather than spending it scrolling on your phone,
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Speaker 11: starting your sport, learn a new instrument. I'll read that
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Speaker 11: book that's been sitting there on your shelf for some time.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, they're all notice. If they
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Speaker 2: don't clear out the kids, they're looking at fines of
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Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. Aut Communication Studies academic Patrick Ozma joins me. Now, Hali, Patrick, Hi, there,
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Speaker 2: how are you? How would this? How do you think
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Speaker 2: this is going down? Because I've played some kids and
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Speaker 2: I just played elbow. Talking about the whole thing, the
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Speaker 2: whole thing feels like, oh, yes, kids, you're misbehaving and
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Speaker 2: just go out there and have a run. And I feel,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not going to be popular amongst
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Speaker 2: a whole generation.
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Speaker 12: It's not that turkeys don't vote for Christmas. So do
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Speaker 12: you imagine that most young people are very much into
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Speaker 12: social media? Many of them dare I say, we throw
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Speaker 12: this word around easily addicted, but my research actually tells
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Speaker 12: us that some of them might be quietly welcoming it.
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Speaker 12: I did some research last year with some high school students,
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Speaker 12: and you know, one of the things they are is
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Speaker 12: actually terrified of making the first move when it comes
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Speaker 12: to real life. They actually do want to socialize, but
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Speaker 12: the prevalence of social media has potentially eroded those skills.
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Speaker 12: And no one's saying that all social media use is harmful.
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Speaker 12: And the way I try to divide it up is
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Speaker 12: we consume social media, we create social media, we connect,
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Speaker 12: and we act on what we see, and most harmful
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Speaker 12: part is the most popular. So the passive scrolling, the
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Speaker 12: consuming social media has very well documented harms.
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Speaker 2: I think it's really I agree Patrick. We all live
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Speaker 2: in the world, and I totally agree, and I would
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Speaker 2: actually have to say, if you're worried about scrolling, you
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Speaker 2: should actually stop the old people doing it as well,
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Speaker 2: because I've just seen so many old people who are going,
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Speaker 2: look at this, Barbara, it's like a television station. Look
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Speaker 2: as Jimmy Kerle. Look, Jimmy Kerr is talking on. There's
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Speaker 2: an oh, look, there's an amazing picture of something blowing up.
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Speaker 2: And well, and you look at old people and they're
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Speaker 2: scrolling as well.
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Speaker 12: Well, that's the good you know, that's the good role modeling. Right,
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Speaker 12: if you're going to be a parent that tells.
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Speaker 13: You kid to get off social media, then you need
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Speaker 13: to do.
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Speaker 12: The same thing, not for going. Thirteen to fifteen year
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Speaker 12: olds have very different, not as advanced cognitive skills. And
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Speaker 12: if we can change law, it might mean that the
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Speaker 12: culture kind of follows, because sometimes you know, changing the
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Speaker 12: law and locks of cultural change the Marriage Amendment Act,
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Speaker 12: you know. And this is also don't forget, this isn't
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Speaker 12: a ban. This is a delay. Always saying it's people
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Speaker 12: under a certain a. So we're not saying young people
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Speaker 12: can never ever use social media. It's a bit like
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Speaker 12: alcohol or tobacco or drive.
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Speaker 2: Well, how yeah, I get this, I get this. How
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Speaker 2: how how compliant and how behind it other organizations are
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Speaker 2: that actually provide the platforms, because I know that they've
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Speaker 2: been slowly sort of briefing everybody. You know, this is
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Speaker 2: going to happen from this day and if you're under sixteen,
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Speaker 2: you're going to have to stop watching the old TikTok.
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Speaker 2: So are they behind this or are they going to
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Speaker 2: try and look for loopholes and can you know?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, in four something is going to be really really difficult.
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Speaker 12: Imagine that the amount of advertising revenue that they are
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Speaker 12: about to lose. So they're already releasing things like jupe apps.
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Speaker 12: There will be ways that young people get around it.
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Speaker 12: You can get VPNs, fake accounts. But it's going to
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Speaker 12: help both teachers, parents and other people to kind of,
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Speaker 12: you know, combat the if you heard of the idea
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Speaker 12: of the broccoli argument. So if you're a parent, you
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Speaker 12: might tell your you might tell your kid how many
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Speaker 12: times a week to eat their broccoli. You might get
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Speaker 12: to say that three or four times a day. But
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Speaker 12: social media can can expose young people to advertising messages
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Speaker 12: thousands of times a week. So rather than it being
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Speaker 12: a persuasion game, persuading my young person to do something
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Speaker 12: or teachers having to monitor it. They can just say, look,
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Speaker 12: this is actually the law now, so it makes easier.
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Speaker 12: But the social media platforms are very invested in not
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Speaker 12: losing this audience. They'll try and find ways around it.
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Speaker 12: But it is a line in the sand. And you know,
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Speaker 12: there's never going to be a silver bullet, right, We're
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Speaker 12: never going to solve these problems overnight. It's a really subtle,
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Speaker 12: nuanced problem.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, communications studies from academic. You're quite good at talking,
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Speaker 2: and so we're now late, and by thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for your time today. It is nineteen minutes after five.
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Speaker 2: If you're looking after a disabled child who's now an adult.
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Speaker 2: Great news came out of the Supreme Court yesterday.
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Speaker 1: More on this next on your radio and online on
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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has ruled the parents caring for their
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Speaker 2: severely disabled adult children will now be recognized as home
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Speaker 2: workers now. The change in titles parents to the minimum
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Speaker 2: wage for compensation if someone is paying them compensation and
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Speaker 2: thousands of family careers who receive disability support funding could
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Speaker 2: now argue that they are now disability support employees. So
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Speaker 2: the employment lawyer Joe Williams joins me, now, good on
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Speaker 2: it to.
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Speaker 13: You, Joe, good morning, Andrew, are you I'm good mate.
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Speaker 2: They'd be fighting for this ages. They just wanted to
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Speaker 2: be recognized at the base level.
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Speaker 13: Yes. So this case has quite a long history. It
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Speaker 13: was initially before the Employment Court who determined that they
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Speaker 13: were employees. The Court of Appeal overturned that, and the
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Speaker 13: Supreme Court has overturned it again. As you say, rents
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Speaker 13: that in their status at employees as found by the
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Speaker 13: Employment Court.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so what does this mean? Does it mean that?
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Speaker 2: Is it about money? And if so, do we have
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Speaker 2: the money to pay them?
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Speaker 13: Well, there's going to be a fairly monumental change in
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Speaker 13: terms of how these lividuals and support workers are paid
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Speaker 13: and funded and how the government approaches that. So the
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Speaker 13: fact that they have now been recognized as employees, obviously,
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Speaker 13: as you said, bring them them innimum wage entitlement. It
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Speaker 13: also brings in things like holiday pay and an entitlement
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Speaker 13: to the treatment of an employee. When it comes to protections,
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Speaker 13: against unfair treatment and potential personal grievances. There's a few
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Speaker 13: different ramifications that flow from it. But in terms of
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Speaker 13: the funding aspect, particularly around holiday pay, it's potentially a
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Speaker 13: really major financial liability to the ministry.
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Speaker 2: All right, but the Ministry can't do anything about it
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Speaker 2: because it's gone to the Supreme Court. Now, is that right?
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Speaker 2: I mean, because that's the Ministry and the Government have
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Speaker 2: been fighting against us because of the financial implications, but
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Speaker 2: now they're they're going to be forced under the law
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Speaker 2: to actually pay this holiday pay for someone who's looking
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Speaker 2: after an if they're on disability support.
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Speaker 13: Yes, so as the law is currently Obviously the Supreme
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Speaker 13: Court is the highest court in the land. So that's
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Speaker 13: the end of the matter when it comes to the
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Speaker 13: current legal position. One option that remains open, and it
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Speaker 13: will be interesting to see whether there's movement from the
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Speaker 13: government is to legislate over the top of this. Certainly
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Speaker 13: there's been some movement in recent times around contractors versus
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Speaker 13: employees with the proposed introduction of a gateway test that's
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Speaker 13: looking like coming in early next year. Now that applies
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Speaker 13: to a slightly different situation to this one, but ultimately
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Speaker 13: it's an option for the government to legislate over the
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Speaker 13: top of they that decide to go down that route,
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Speaker 13: but it's probably a little early to say at this point.
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Speaker 2: Now, well, we'll wait and see you and Joe and
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Speaker 2: I thank you very much for your time employment, Lawyer
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Speaker 2: Joe Williams. But here's the thing. I mean, we all
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Speaker 2: know that the parents who look after their kids are
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Speaker 2: amazing and they are heroes and they deserve to be
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Speaker 2: recognized as such. The question is do we as a
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Speaker 2: nation have enough money to actually then pay them these
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Speaker 2: entitlements that they are now legally entitled to. And that's
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Speaker 2: for the government to worry about.
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Speaker 2: News Talks will be its Fried to an seven. So
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Speaker 2: today is today. The Australians lead the world with the
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Speaker 2: social media ban for people under sixteen, So good luck
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Speaker 2: with that because you know, the kids who still want
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Speaker 2: to be online will get around it, because you know,
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Speaker 2: kids and computers. They can't speak the Queen's English, but
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Speaker 2: they can sure speak computer. They'll get around it. They'll VPN,
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Speaker 2: they'll forge and weasele their way through the same way
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Speaker 2: that we all got our hands on booze when we
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Speaker 2: were under age. And the kids who will actively skirt
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Speaker 2: the law are either the ones who believe that social
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Speaker 2: media benefits their life and society and I need it
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Speaker 2: and I want it, I'm going to have it and
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Speaker 2: I'm prepared to break the law, or they're hoping one
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Speaker 2: day they might actually get some positive self affirmation off it,
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Speaker 2: even though more often than not they're bullied, and of
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Speaker 2: course the bullies themselves, because the bullies like the social
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Speaker 2: media and they want to keep doing it. They having fun.
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Speaker 2: They are not going to pay attention to some words
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Speaker 2: in black and white written by some old parliamentarians and
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Speaker 2: a grand hall wearing their fancy clothes. Thanks dad, no thanks.
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Speaker 2: The kids are not going to be thankful you've taken
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Speaker 2: away their town hall, their community center, at their pub.
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Speaker 2: They're going to be some of them going to be resentful,
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Speaker 2: Some are going to be happy, some are going to
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Speaker 2: be resentful. And I reckon. There's a lot of parents
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Speaker 2: who reckon. Social media has rotted their brains the brains
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Speaker 2: of their kids, so they're behind it. And why we've
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Speaker 2: asked them, You go, well, oh, they're on social media
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Speaker 2: my kids and now they've turned into socialists. Just anyway,
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Speaker 2: look the whole thing, and I think Patrick said this,
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Speaker 2: it's a signal, and that's virtue signaling. And we all
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Speaker 2: know how we feel about virtue signaling. The last government
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Speaker 2: was greater in even if the virtue is a good one.
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Speaker 2: And speaking of which, talking about virtue signaling, I found
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Speaker 2: the whole argibargie between the Before sixteen crew and the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister to be a little bit distasteful. It seemed
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Speaker 2: like these guys were more concerned about who gets the
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Speaker 2: credit for the posturing rather than helping the kids themselves.
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Speaker 2: But look, here we go, the messages out there, and
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Speaker 2: it's a good one. Keep your kids' social media usage
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Speaker 2: as low as possible. You are the parent, so parent.
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Speaker 2: And here's my thing. My boys are in their twenties
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Speaker 2: and they grew up with all of this and I
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Speaker 2: remember that in them when they are teams. Boys, if
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Speaker 2: you've been cyber bullied on social media? And their reply
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Speaker 2: was not really, And then they said, look, if you're
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Speaker 2: being bullied and if you're being hassled, what do you
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Speaker 2: do is you block the dickheads. And that's what I do.
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Speaker 2: That's what we do too. Oh, and we just turned
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Speaker 2: the phone off. And by the way, can you drive
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Speaker 2: me to football? Kids are still being kids, and I
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Speaker 2: see them out and about at the moment. They're on
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Speaker 2: holiday already. They're at the beach and they're hanging out
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Speaker 2: and they're not scrolling on their phones. But I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what the.
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Speaker 13: Adults are.
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Speaker 2: News Talk, said be Freddy Scappuccini. I think I got
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Speaker 2: that wrong. He is the I are a spy. He
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Speaker 2: UK people think he's a hero. The Iris think he's
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Speaker 2: a devil. Incredible story more than this with Gavin Gray coming.
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Speaker 15: At be Love Fingers. I feeling in my toe. That's
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Speaker 15: Belle nigh Uh. You know the accents singing the song
18:18
Speaker 15: It's Christmas. I'm beginning to accept that Christmas is coming.
18:22
Speaker 15: I might even get a Christmas tree this weekend. I
18:24
Speaker 15: haven't got one yet, but there we go, and we
18:27
Speaker 15: are coming to the end of the year. We need
18:29
Speaker 15: to find some way of describing this year.
18:31
Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want to call
18:32
Speaker 2: this year? Suggestions? Not ninety two ninety two?
18:34
Speaker 16: Small charge?
18:35
Speaker 2: It ticks me in? Is it the year of the
18:37
Speaker 2: long grind? I'll tell you, I'll tell you what it
18:40
Speaker 2: could be. It could be the year of AI, because
18:43
Speaker 2: it's certainly the year when that gadgrip became all pervasive.
18:46
Speaker 2: This year, KPMG have just revealed that sixty six percent
18:49
Speaker 2: of us use AI regularly. And on top of that,
18:53
Speaker 2: there's a survey showing that in most places workplaces, this
18:56
Speaker 2: is done by e y its young. Most places, the
19:00
Speaker 2: use of AI is making work more complicated, and those
19:03
Speaker 2: reports point to rising levels of stress and overwhelm linked
19:07
Speaker 2: to rapid AI adoption. Sixty four percent of employees feel
19:11
Speaker 2: overloaded by the constant stream of new AI tools at work,
19:15
Speaker 2: and they say that their workload has increased rather than
19:18
Speaker 2: ease over the past. Yere, now, hold on, that's not
19:20
Speaker 2: what it's said on the packet. My little robot buddy
19:23
Speaker 2: is supposed to make my life easier, but apparently it's
19:25
Speaker 2: making our lines more stressful because we're doing more. And
19:27
Speaker 2: that's all about the productivity. I guess now, I'll tell
19:30
Speaker 2: you what gives me the most about AI, and before that,
19:34
Speaker 2: the rise of the cloud. It's the pure amount of
19:37
Speaker 2: computing grunt needed to power these things that we all
19:39
Speaker 2: take for granted these days. So data centers have popped
19:42
Speaker 2: up all over the world. I did some researches about
19:44
Speaker 2: twelve thousand at the moment, but in the United States alone,
19:48
Speaker 2: four thousand are being constructed as we speak, because AI
19:53
Speaker 2: needs a data center, and of course it's China. God
19:56
Speaker 2: knows what's happening there. And most of these new facilities
19:58
Speaker 2: being built are called high because of their sheer size.
20:03
Speaker 2: So you've got tens of thousands of servers and sheds
20:06
Speaker 2: wearing away, and the sheds are hundreds of thousands of
20:09
Speaker 2: square feet, and there's four thousand new ones coming online.
20:12
Speaker 2: And all these data centers eat power and consume water
20:18
Speaker 2: with all their computing and cooling systems. In a many country,
20:21
Speaker 2: of course, the power comes from non renewable sources. So
20:25
Speaker 2: here's the thing. As you use your AI, you're helping
20:27
Speaker 2: to burn coal. As the world is merely burning coal
20:31
Speaker 2: to power evs as well, we're chewing up the world's
20:34
Speaker 2: resources to power our computing and then ironically we'll go
20:37
Speaker 2: on to AI and say, AI, how can we reduce
20:41
Speaker 2: our carbon footprint? And AI says, I'll just burned some
20:45
Speaker 2: carbon and figure that out for you. Twenty one to
20:46
Speaker 2: six News Talk said, be around the country. We go
20:50
Speaker 2: Callum Proctor from Otaga. Good morning, morning Andrew. There's there's
20:55
Speaker 2: a rumor that Dunedin's student flats are being improved.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well more inspections are being done anyway. MB's inspected
21:03
Speaker 4: fifty three student homes this year, so they really are
21:06
Speaker 4: cracking down on damp and run down rentols which are
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Speaker 4: prominent in North Dunedin. For our students. They issued twenty
21:13
Speaker 4: three warnings and twelve improvement notices along with four cases
21:18
Speaker 4: that need further enforcement. And so from that that led
21:21
Speaker 4: to eighteen gutter replacements, to bathroom renovations and even rent
21:25
Speaker 4: reductions for some tenants. So those students will be pleased. Look,
21:29
Speaker 4: MB says overall, they please that most issues were remedied promptly.
21:32
Speaker 4: They say one property remains under review for possible further
21:35
Speaker 4: enforcement action.
21:37
Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?
21:39
Speaker 4: A few showers about for Danedan today, some possibly heavy
21:42
Speaker 4: the high twenty.
21:43
Speaker 2: And I thank you for your time. Now, Clais here,
21:45
Speaker 2: what joins us from Canterbury? Hello Claire, No Claire.
21:50
Speaker 6: Good morning.
21:51
Speaker 2: Well there you are, Hello Claire, I'm here very good.
21:54
Speaker 2: The City Council is looking for a new boss.
21:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Interim Chief Executive Mary Richardson's been in the
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Speaker 6: job here christ Church since twenty twenty three. She came
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Speaker 6: in after former CEO Dawn Baxendale unexpectedly stood down. That
22:07
Speaker 6: was a whole story in itself. Committee findings into Richardson's performance,
22:12
Speaker 6: which were released in August, found resident satisfaction had jumped
22:15
Speaker 6: to fifty three percent from forty six under her leadership.
22:19
Speaker 6: Staff engagement had also climbed to sixty seven percent, surpassing
22:23
Speaker 6: the local government benchmark. But Richardson has made it very
22:26
Speaker 6: clear from day one that she doesn't want the full
22:28
Speaker 6: five year term. She says she'll remain CEO until June
22:32
Speaker 6: of next year and that's when she wants to hand
22:34
Speaker 6: over the right rains. Council is now discussing the recruitment
22:38
Speaker 6: process for her replacement. That will be in their meeting
22:41
Speaker 6: later today.
22:42
Speaker 2: How's your weather?
22:44
Speaker 10: Mainly find a bit of high cloud.
22:45
Speaker 6: Northwesterly is turning south easterly late today and high of
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Speaker 6: twenty eight and.
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Speaker 2: To Wellington we go. Max Tol, good morning to you.
22:51
Speaker 13: Morning.
22:52
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, and I've told you how
22:54
Speaker 2: much I like the city to the sea Bridge, and
22:56
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that the council was going to spend
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Speaker 2: so much money to rip it down. But now it
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Speaker 2: sounds like this a reprieve.
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Speaker 16: Yes, we're in luck. This is, of course, the large
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Speaker 16: timber bridge over Civic Square bridge slash artwork. As you say,
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Speaker 16: it was to be demolished because the build of strengthen
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Speaker 16: it from earthquakes apparently got a bit too high. In fact,
23:14
Speaker 16: the councils were in such a hurry to get it
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Speaker 16: knocked down before any new building standards were enforced by
23:19
Speaker 16: their government. For instance, the diggers were literally at the door.
23:22
Speaker 16: But tomorrow, now maybe it's final savior. A councilor is
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Speaker 16: putting forward a motion to effectively finally cancel demolition, and
23:31
Speaker 16: that is likely to pass at this committee meeting. Andrew Little,
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Speaker 16: the mayor, for instance, prefers it stays the Green councilors
23:39
Speaker 16: are the only ones seemingly opposed. They want demolition to
23:42
Speaker 16: take place, and the good news is these councilors don't
23:44
Speaker 16: have to worry about its future again or the future
23:47
Speaker 16: of the Connected Capital E building until February when they'll
23:51
Speaker 16: take a look at best options for fixing it up
23:53
Speaker 16: and revisit the budget, etc.
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Speaker 2: All right, how's your winner? Should be?
23:57
Speaker 16: Another cracker? Fine northerly, good batting, whether it's twenty one
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Speaker 16: to the high.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you've got a test starting today and that's going
24:03
Speaker 2: to be good fun to watch. And I thank you
24:05
Speaker 2: so much. Neither written money joins me from Auckland.
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Speaker 17: Good morning and Auckland and.
24:09
Speaker 2: Particularly cleanliness and Ora at a shock about a random
24:15
Speaker 2: stabbing of the by a stranger on a bus going
24:19
Speaker 2: from gi to town.
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Speaker 17: That's right, Andrew. That horrific, horrific yesterday, so one man
24:23
Speaker 17: died after suffering a stab wound and then another is
24:26
Speaker 17: in a serious but stable condition in hospital after surgery
24:29
Speaker 17: on his hand. Now police say they took a thirty
24:32
Speaker 17: six year old into custody in Auckland CBD yesterday. He
24:35
Speaker 17: will be appearing in court today.
24:37
Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 17: The Public Transport Uses Association national coordinator, that's John Reeves.
24:42
Speaker 17: He's come out.
24:42
Speaker 2: He says.
24:43
Speaker 17: Look, public transport is usually safe. But obviously, you know,
24:47
Speaker 17: he says, Look, if you feel you find yourself in
24:49
Speaker 17: an unsafe situation, you know people should call police immediately
24:55
Speaker 17: from the bus. Is that's the only way to get
24:57
Speaker 17: offices there fast? I mean, obviously this debate on safety
25:02
Speaker 17: on buses is not new, is it. Andrew has been
25:05
Speaker 17: around for a long time. Reeves is also saying, look,
25:08
Speaker 17: it's time now get together with government police because they
25:10
Speaker 17: would really like to set up or see a dedicated
25:13
Speaker 17: public transport policing team or something. Something's got to be done.
25:17
Speaker 2: Hou's Hawkin's weather.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's a fine day.
25:19
Speaker 17: Another Scorcha twenty.
25:20
Speaker 2: Eight is the high I thank you. It is sixteen
25:23
Speaker 2: to six. Actually, while we're talking about public transport, there
25:25
Speaker 2: was a fellow who runs the city rail Link who
25:28
Speaker 2: talked to councilors yesterday and he gave them an update.
25:31
Speaker 2: Apparently there's been sixteen thousand trial runs by trains through
25:34
Speaker 2: the tunnels. He says the physical work is finished. He
25:38
Speaker 2: says they're still within their five point five billion dollar budget.
25:41
Speaker 2: The last of twenty three new trains being built in
25:44
Speaker 2: Mexico came up the production line last week, so of
25:47
Speaker 2: course we can open it can't we can we open it? No,
25:49
Speaker 2: we can't the link allians who have built the thing
25:51
Speaker 2: don't hand it over to at until June. And the
25:55
Speaker 2: word is apparently we're looking at a September opening date.
26:00
Speaker 2: And the CURL chief executive Pat Rocky, who was doing
26:04
Speaker 2: this briefing tod councilors stick with us. Better journeys are
26:07
Speaker 2: around the corner. But boy, we've been hearing that for
26:09
Speaker 2: a long time, haven't we. It is sixteen to six
26:12
Speaker 2: Gavin Gray on the way with the incredible story of
26:14
Speaker 2: the UK spy despised by Ireland but actually a hero
26:19
Speaker 2: considered the hero in the UK. So what to do
26:21
Speaker 2: about this fella? And also we'll talk about this rama.
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Speaker 1: Reform International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
26:29
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business.
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Speaker 2: Thirteen to six Gavin Gray from the UK. Good morning
26:33
Speaker 2: to you, Good morning there, Andrew Sir. This is an
26:36
Speaker 2: incredible story. Is he a hero? Is he a devil?
26:39
Speaker 2: This is a report into a British spy inside the
26:42
Speaker 2: Irray during the troubles, saying that he committed terrible, terrible,
26:45
Speaker 2: terrible terrible things torture and murder should be publicly named now,
26:49
Speaker 2: by the way, I think we know who he is,
26:51
Speaker 2: isn't it Freddy Skapatiki.
26:53
Speaker 5: That's right, and he died a couple of years back.
26:56
Speaker 5: So why all this fuss and hurrah. Well, basically, the
26:59
Speaker 5: Irish an army that wanted Ireland to become one country
27:03
Speaker 5: not part of the UK, had a notorious internal security
27:07
Speaker 5: unit tasked with hunting down and executing informants. The man
27:11
Speaker 5: at the helm was one Freddie Scapatchi and he, it's alleged,
27:15
Speaker 5: was actually a British spy. So, in other words, somebody
27:18
Speaker 5: who had infiltrated right to the top of this organization
27:22
Speaker 5: was in fact allegedly supplying information to the British government
27:26
Speaker 5: all this while though he was overseeing this nutting squad
27:29
Speaker 5: as it was called, that had killed many many people
27:32
Speaker 5: and tortured them as well, And some are saying, do
27:34
Speaker 5: you know what, he actually killed more people than he
27:37
Speaker 5: was responsible for saving. He always denied that he was
27:41
Speaker 5: the agent called State Knife, and indeed he died with
27:45
Speaker 5: it being quite simply unknown, but lots of people are
27:47
Speaker 5: convinced he was. And now this latest report said we
27:50
Speaker 5: owe it to the families to formally name and identify
27:53
Speaker 5: this British agent and to make sure that this does
27:57
Speaker 5: not happen again where a British agent goes in with
27:59
Speaker 5: the intention of saving lives but ends out actually getting
28:02
Speaker 5: so involved with it, or that he may have taken
28:04
Speaker 5: more than he said.
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Speaker 2: Well as incredible. I can feel a film coming on
28:08
Speaker 2: I really care with Daniel day Lewis in it as well.
28:11
Speaker 2: Very quickly, a man got four packing tickets when they
28:14
Speaker 2: came and painted a disabled bay around the car which
28:17
Speaker 2: was legally packed when he left it when he went
28:18
Speaker 2: on holiday.
28:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So we turned up in Croydon, south
28:22
Speaker 5: of London, left it on an unmarked, unrestricted road, got
28:25
Speaker 5: back two tickets on the windscreen. Two others came in
28:27
Speaker 5: the post and he discovered they had painted a disabled
28:30
Speaker 5: bay around his car. There is even a picture on
28:33
Speaker 5: CCTV showing the man painting the lines around his car
28:37
Speaker 5: actually taking a photograph to show that the car was
28:41
Speaker 5: parked legally, and he sent that to the council saying
28:43
Speaker 5: do not give this car a ticket. Of course nobody listened.
28:46
Speaker 5: Now the council has risk given him the money back.
28:48
Speaker 2: Thank you, Gvin. It is now tim to six News
28:52
Speaker 2: Talk Sibby. Well, the governments dropped a two hundred and
28:55
Speaker 2: fifty page monster to replace the ARAM, the Resource Management
28:59
Speaker 2: Act once too. New laws, one for planning, one for
29:02
Speaker 2: the environment, and it wants clearer rules and what councils
29:04
Speaker 2: can and can't regulate. It's estimated this will have the
29:08
Speaker 2: number of consents. It's estimated this will save thirteen billion
29:12
Speaker 2: dollars in costs over thirty years, but some people are
29:15
Speaker 2: worried that the environment could still could get damaged. Bruce
29:18
Speaker 2: Weir is an independent urban planner and strategic development expert,
29:22
Speaker 2: and it joins me. Now good morning to you.
29:24
Speaker 18: Good morning, Andrew, so very good.
29:26
Speaker 2: This is a generational change and everyone's been talking about
29:29
Speaker 2: reform of the RMA forever, ever since they came in
29:31
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one. So what's your reaction to it.
29:35
Speaker 18: Oh, it's great, it's awesome, fantastic.
29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, no downside at all.
29:43
Speaker 14: Oh.
29:44
Speaker 18: Look, there will always be caups of these things when
29:47
Speaker 18: they come in. You know, the stuff about compensation is
29:50
Speaker 18: going to be a bit of a headache. But no
29:53
Speaker 18: fund media league people. There's been so much nonsense going
29:57
Speaker 18: on in planning and people have rightly been frustrated with
30:02
Speaker 18: what's been going on.
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Speaker 2: So the very first email I got in my inbox
30:06
Speaker 2: yesterday after the announcement at one o'clock came from Forest
30:09
Speaker 2: and Bird who said this will negatively impact on New
30:11
Speaker 2: Zealand's environments and that there's not enough safeguards and that's
30:14
Speaker 2: why the RMA that was developed and made so monstrously
30:18
Speaker 2: huge in the first place. What do you reckon to that.
30:22
Speaker 18: Oh, look, I think the main thing that I see.
30:26
Speaker 18: The biggest improvement here is that there's a planning tribune
30:30
Speaker 18: that you can go to a few if everybody's unhappy
30:33
Speaker 18: and there's a big issue, there's somewhere you can go to.
30:40
Speaker 18: The problem we have at the moment is it sort
30:42
Speaker 18: of almost gets so lid to just that it favors
30:47
Speaker 18: those who have a lot of money, and so what
30:50
Speaker 18: happens is that you can get held up. And there's
30:55
Speaker 18: cases I've been involved with for years, years and years
30:59
Speaker 18: going through. Those who have a lot of capital can
31:04
Speaker 18: canstall a process. It's really frustrating even for councils.
31:09
Speaker 2: No I understand, I understand. I know a number of
31:11
Speaker 2: planners for them as well. So there we go, But
31:15
Speaker 2: what about the risk of people now feeling that they
31:17
Speaker 2: can put up whatever they want, wherever they want on
31:19
Speaker 2: their property, and we end out with a terrible cave
31:21
Speaker 2: creek scenario.
31:22
Speaker 18: You know, look, there's if you take an urban environments,
31:28
Speaker 18: what we've done is we've, in a strange sort of way,
31:31
Speaker 18: we've gone back to where we used to have a
31:32
Speaker 18: Town and Country Planning Act, way way way back, and
31:36
Speaker 18: we've gone back to that.
31:37
Speaker 12: We've said, now.
31:37
Speaker 18: An urban areas, there's certain rules. Out of the countryside,
31:43
Speaker 18: there's a different process fundamentally, that's how it goes. And
31:49
Speaker 18: if you take the FAUMA, you have a volumetric control,
31:53
Speaker 18: you have a box and we already have that. You know,
31:56
Speaker 18: you have recession controls and height limits, and you go
31:59
Speaker 18: for it. You know, build it good it all right,
32:02
Speaker 18: Bruce Constraint.
32:04
Speaker 2: I gotta go, Bruce. I gotta gotta ask you. I
32:07
Speaker 2: gotta ask you a very random question. What sort of
32:09
Speaker 2: socks have you got on? Honestly, you've got have you
32:14
Speaker 2: got long socks? You've got ankle socks?
32:16
Speaker 18: Oh my, don't be a food.
32:19
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm about to talk to Heather and you'll
32:21
Speaker 2: find out why I asked you that question. That is
32:23
Speaker 2: Bruce Weir, who is an independent urban planner and a
32:25
Speaker 2: strategic development expert, who says it's awesome.
32:30
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with r VS Supercenter explore
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Speaker 1: r v's excess or resent surfacing all in one news talks.
32:38
Speaker 2: It'd be random things that Heather through Alan says to
32:41
Speaker 2: me in the morning. Number one yesterday, Oh it's a
32:44
Speaker 2: bit cold in the studio.
32:45
Speaker 19: Is this okay?
32:46
Speaker 2: This is actually slightly too warm? Yes, but have you
32:48
Speaker 2: looked at the thing? It's it's broken. I think it's
32:52
Speaker 2: so you might get too hot today this morning, four
32:55
Speaker 2: am in the morning, Dickens, you're wearing ankle socks. You're
32:57
Speaker 2: so uncool, And I went, what.
33:00
Speaker 10: To be fair?
33:01
Speaker 19: I mean, listen, there will be no young person will
33:03
Speaker 19: be awake at the moment to be able to confirm
33:05
Speaker 19: this because they're still sleeping in. But if you're wearing
33:08
Speaker 19: socks that that show you f your ankle and sit
33:11
Speaker 19: inside your shoe, you are showing your age. It's like
33:14
Speaker 19: mom jeans.
33:15
Speaker 10: It's like when Jerry Seinfeld used to wear jeans and sneakers.
33:18
Speaker 2: It's not your jeans, Mamish, they're a bit high.
33:21
Speaker 10: But mom jeans are cool now, so now you can
33:22
Speaker 10: weary oh my.
33:24
Speaker 2: Lord, but they call mom jeans, so therefore they.
33:27
Speaker 10: Can't be cool honestly. Okay, anyway, so high waist?
33:30
Speaker 2: Okay, I give up. I asked the last guy. I
33:32
Speaker 2: interviewed Bruce Weir, who was a planner, and said, what
33:36
Speaker 2: socks have you got on?
33:37
Speaker 13: Just I need to know?
33:38
Speaker 2: He said, I've got bare feet.
33:43
Speaker 13: Feet, what have you got on?
33:44
Speaker 19: I've actually got the old summer birkenstocks on because we're wearing.
33:48
Speaker 2: We were talking this morning about the kids these days
33:50
Speaker 2: at my gym. They'll come into the gym. They're wearing long,
33:53
Speaker 2: long denim shorts right, a random T shirt and they're
33:56
Speaker 2: wearing socks and a Birkenstock to work out. And this
33:59
Speaker 2: is you go, that's that's stupid.
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Speaker 10: Clo No, no, no, Dickens. The birkenstock, like the clog
34:06
Speaker 10: with the sock has been cool. Listen to me. I
34:09
Speaker 10: am for four winters, so start wearing.
34:11
Speaker 2: It's still stupid. Why would you in winter wear socks
34:15
Speaker 2: and birkinsas they're gonna get wet.
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